Why We Can't Carry Gibson

We get asked all the time, "When are you getting Gibson"? Baxter and Jonathan break down the current state of Gibson adding new dealers, their new focus outside of guitars and probably some rant about a movie.
Side Note: When I mention the submarine movie U571 I was talking about Das Boot...complete mental slip due to exhaustion there...unforgivable but nonetheless, my apologies for any confusion....Go watch Das Boot!
Let Gibson know you wan't Gibson guitars at Casino Guitars!
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[@CasinoGuitars]

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[@grumpymikeguitar]

I subbed quite a while back. Love the channel. Should I be blessed enough to get to your neck of the woods, you can count ont me showing up at your shop.

[@edpetrikk2027]

Been there ..done that…..a long time ago 👍😎🎸

[@JoeBidensAdderall]

They make fantastic firewood

[@pissonguitarcenter8204]

I bought two Melody Maker Vs one black, one white for my son and my daughter new and that's the last time I bought a new Gibson. I have never had such a hard time buying a new guitar! Guitar Center wanted $529 for one. Both the salesman and manager said they were made especially for GC only and if I wanted to buy from them that was the price. I told them they were on ebay for $399 and they said they did not honor ebays prices and refused to match their price. So I went to another Gibson dealer in the city I live in and he said that the Gibson rep did not tell him about these guitars (he was pissed) he said Gibson was sold out of the white so I bought a black one from him for $399, while it was on order, I got to thinking about the 300 GC stores and said to myself they have to have a white one in stock at another location. So when I went back to pick up the black one I went straight to GC and showed the manager the receipt from Sound Vibrations Corpus Christi Texas and told him if he did not get me a white one from another store I would go over his head and get one through GC for $399 and he said yes sir and two days later, without taking any money down they called saying my white Gibson Melody Maker V was there at the store and come pick it up for $399. You have to be an educated consumer to Deal with the Corpus Christi Texas Guitar Center. I would never want to be a Gibson dealer!

[@seanwoodburn2616]

I was once the largest Gibson dealer north of San Francisco in California. This was under King Henry. Nothing but pain, suffering and abuse. He DID fix the Norlin problems but forgot that Gibson is a GUITAR company and never treated dealers below the Sweetwater/GC level well. Good luck with the new regime. I own nearly a dozen including the '55 ES-150 that Mom bought new so I am always rooting for them. Great conversation.

[@kangaroofoot]

I wish Gibson was still who they were when I was a young boy, because I’ve always wanted one. Now that I’m grown, Gibson has become that once-cool uncle that became a bitter old man.

[@Zoso981]

Gibson: "Get off my lawn!!!"

[@jayrichardson5811]

I'm a huge Epiphone fan especially the past 5 years remarkable guitars

[@Zoso981]

Same here

[@timnewman1172]

My local guitar dealer dropped Gibson a few years ago because they were inconsistant, and horrible about delivering the guitars that were actually ordered. All this "play authentic" crap is worthless if you can't put the guitars into the hands of people that play them...

[@user-no1cares]

Gibson business strategy might be why I have a new Fender American Tele.

[@dmatt1116]

The big box guitar stores don’t have the attention to detail like you get in a private music store. If you pick one off the wall their action is way off and they’re not in tune. Unlike the small stores where they’re usually ready to go. When it comes down to it it’s all about money making.

[@tonystoddard8099]

The title of this video got me interested enough to start watching it, but after seven minutes of mindless rambling I still had no explicit answer to what you were trying to communicate about Gibson…

[@charmandrews]

Me too...

[@bassicly4250]

Gibson's care less about players attitude & lets make $40,000 korina Explorer 1958 reissues (as in they could have probably produced 25 to 1 of standard models and got them into players hands). Overpriced standard guitars is a whole different topic but hey , they only want to sell showpieces to the rich not playable to musician's.

[@nintypence]

Yes me too.

[@spencerdawkins]

@@MrCrowley1018 - accurate. I think I have to hide them. I sort of enjoy listening to them blather, but they keep putting clickbait titles on their video, I click to learn something, and they don't talk about the title topic until most of the way through the video, at best, which fumes me. "Why We Can't Carry Gibsons" talks about skateboarding - including who they know that's good at that. If the episodes were numbered, like "the view from the guitar shop #113", I'd enjoy listening to them muse, every once in a while I'd learn something I wasn't expecting to learn, and we'd all be happier! 😁

[@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185]

Lmfao…. Haha. These guys are bullshitters. You wanna know why they don’t carry Gibson and want you to write Gibson asking why? Wanna know why so many “content providers/dealers make the same video titled something along the lines of “are Gibson’s really worth it” or “does Gibson care about the modern working guitarist?” Here’s your answer to why they don’t stock Gibson. They can’t afford it. 1. If you are an existing Gibson dealer you must commit to a $90,000 order immediately. (in addition to what you have in stock). 2. If you are not a current dealer but wish to become a Gibson dealer the opening order amount is $150,00.00. No ifs, ands, or buts. 3. 40% of all the guitar hooks in your store must contain a Gibson product. Period. 4. The $90,000 figure does NOT include OAI Division proiducts (Dobros, mandolins, and banjos). 5. The OAI Division opening order is an additonal $150,000. There will only be 12-18 OAI Division dealers nationwide. No ifs, ands, or buts.

[@rickbrooks1956]

I was at Gibson Garage last week, and it's very impressive...except in one area. No inventory to sell, except the display guitars! You see all the guitars moving overhead, and the wall displays. Should you want to buy a guitar, you have to order it and have it shipped to a local dealer, or your house. That's fine on a Gibson Custom Shop guitar, but rather odd on standard production models. Needless to say, I was disappointed. Is this what the future of guitar stores will be?

[@norwegiansniper9713]

Basically what internet is

[@Ray-Angel]

I've been unimpressed with Gibson for a long time. But, a couple of weeks ago, a Studio model Les Paul caught my eye. I tried it out and bought it. It plays and sounds great and it's not too pretty or expensive. Just a hard working man's guitar.

[@Crescent_Audio]

Baxter is a true man of his community, making sure the young-uns have stuff to do .

[@CasinoGuitars]

Love it, Baxter (Me) Says thank you:)!

[@Crescent_Audio]

@@CasinoGuitars awww thanks dude, that made my morning :)

[@qrptedmac]

I’ve always heard at least in the past, that Gib’s order minimum’s are exceedingly high. Smaller shops can’t carry the line.

[@wecanonlywish9194]

True statement..starting around 2005. They purposefully raised the buy-in cost to dealers, and then within one month..raised it again. It was a ridiculous amount of money. We were carrying both Gibson and Epiphone, and they basically put the squeeze on Mom and Pop stores. We were convinced that it was to intentionally change the marketing toward the Big Box stores. Though we COULD have made it work..We chose to walk. But, at that time..Gibson was being run by a jerk who knew nothing about the guitar business (IMO). But now, Gibson has got back on track..with great products again. They made some REALLY crappy stuff, back in the day when Norlin owned them. It ran a lot of customers away. But..when Guns & Roses hit the scene, Slash brought a lot of attention back to the product! Hoping Casino Guitars can get the line. It would be a great addition, to the already Awesomeness of the store!

[@harryballs5080]

Hey don’t be so quick to bash Norlin era guitars from Gibson. There are some good ones.

[@caiusmadison2996]

@@wecanonlywish9194 on a fake Chibson, no less, he restricted the long dead Gibson name at that point. I remember my guitar teacher saying he wanted a Les Paul Studio, which was made originally for the metal market and then market finally and still to this day, as a no frills guitar. The problem was, imo, Gibson made EVERYTHING less well, for far longer than Fender did in the 60's/70's, which is why they got sidelined. See problem, repeat problem until company folds, more than once, than you aren't good at business. Base quality must be there, amd I'm consistently disappointed in one brand. That brand has always been Gibson, amd it has always been due to basic issues like fit, finish, and tuning is abysmal versus other stuff. Even when you do all the tricks, like tying strings off in ridiculous manners(see the reason a closed top tuner was made in the first place. STABILITY.) Its like one brand made the changes, and honored the past perfectly. Their now the biggest manufacturer and have been, for ages now(Fender).

[@Asshat237]

@@caiusmadison2996 Chibson?? I don't think China was even manufacturing guitars in the 80s yet. Slash's LP copy from Appetite was HAND made by a luthier in California named Kris Derrig. To call it a Chibson is to call it a piece of shit and insulting to Mr. Derrig's work.

[@bluzzjazz]

@@harryballs5080 That's right, I'll put my 72 Goldtop LP Deluxe up against anything. The Mini HBs sound fantastic!

[@84kjk]

“My wife’s husband is a skateboarding monster.”. Lol

[@CasinoGuitars]

I need help:)

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I’m glad someone caught that!

[@rumiranda3048]

Bro I thought I heard that had to rewind it 😂

[@CasinoGuitars]

@@rumiranda3048 :) yup…that would be my dumbness!

[@jaypaulson5181]

Oh yeah- top 10 example of wrong words and no filter…..

[@crcj7896]

Pretty please can you guys do a podcast? I really enjoy hearing you both chat back and forth and it's nice to see two genuine people explore ideas the way you two do. A movie/music podcast would be awesome! Take it easy guys and keep up your amazing work. Much love from Scotland

[@ababilashari9970]

i think this IS their podcast XD (not a bad idea tho haha)

[@spencerdawkins]

@@ababilashari9970 - OMG SO MUCH YES! 🤣

[@sergiolicea9056]

I’ve been fortunate to have owned several Gibsons that have come and gone throughout my playing time: LP Custom, LP DC Standard, Explorer, SG LP Custom, ES-345, LP Trad Pro. While they were great and served a purpose for their time, qc and more importantly tuning issues have always been the reason I’ve let them go. They do sound great which is why I’ve kept giving them chances, but I think I’m done. This year I attempted to buy an SG Special and the dealer cited a major QC issue during inspection that made me cancel my order. I opted for a Fender 72 telecaster thin skin from Wildwood instead. That guitar had zero qc issues, sounds amazing and even arrived in tune. Clearly there is a demand for Gibson, and I’m appreciative of guitar shops that care about qc and share that with customers before they buy. Wondering if that type of care and customer service plays a role in making it difficult for shops like Casino to carry Gibson...🤔

[@ludoludo4334]

i just bought a sg special...qc issues.... send it back

[@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020]

Guys i support your channel, your store and everything you guys do, as such i just let Gibson know that it would be mutually beneficial if they did business with Casino guitars. Continue doing what youre doing, Gibson will come around. Rock on 🤘

[@CasinoGuitars]

Thanks a ton! We appreciate the support for sure and appreciate your good vibes here!

[@Dylan-ji5ug]

Gibson : "Ok, we need money. What can we do to make some money?" Gibson employee 1: "Build more guitars so there is not a 2 year waiting list?" Gibson : "Anyone with some ideas?" Gibson Employee 2 "Create a record label. I mean its a great industry where essentially you give away your product now" Gibson ; "YESSS, see! Those are the ideas we need!"

[@thesmellycatjazz]

Let's be real. They like money, and just can't meet demand. They probably trying to do both and way more since it's a large corporation.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Okay..lthat wins for the best comment of this entire feed! Flipping brilliant! Loved it and thanks for the smiles:)

[@natashanyxx9486]

Right?

[@michaelblaney4461]

That's probably not too far from the truth .

[@JiminTennessee]

This is hilarious.

[@stratosexual1329]

Full disclosure: I am a Fender groupie. However, fender has MiM guitars for over $1000. You can get really nice USA Gibson for about the same. Also the custom shop stuff that is $4,000, you can get a crazy nice Gibson for that kind of money. I feel like Gibson is almost a better value as fender raises their prices.

[@falcongunner33]

I would tend to disagree with that. I've played some pretty nasty Les Paul Studios in my time. I feel like Fender is more consistent with their QC. To each their own though!

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I like both brands, though I tend to lean towards fender because their bass guitars are better and they make good amplifiers in addition to guitars. You’re right about the prices; Gibson gets too much hate for their prices since there are nice ones to be had for under $1,000, and American Fenders aren’t cheap anymore! For that matter, the Mexican Fenders aren’t cheap either!

[@tednugentlives]

Got a 2014 melody maker for merchandise in barter. Its a LP Jr with 2 p90s (musicians friend) run) And its great for 499 new. That said my hamer SATF p90 mport is my favorite lately.

[@stratosexual1329]

@@falcongunner33 in the past I would agree with that but fenders QC has gone down in my own experiences. I feel like squire classic vibes are more consistent in my locals. And on the flip side I fell like Gibson has gone up. I know this isn’t what everyone has experienced. 2017 and 2018 were bad years for Gibson. Stay away from those years.

[@stratosexual1329]

@@honkytonkinson9787 fender is a more compete brand. They own the market on amps. I hope Gibson can use Mesa boogie to get into the market. The key will be making a tube amp around 15w under $750.

[@jeffhuxford2870]

Love this channel and love your store-it was a pleasure meeting both of you a couple weeks back. I recently visited the Gibson garage in pursuit of a Les Paul Standard 60’s. Why? I grew up an early KISS fan and Ace Frehley played a tobacco burst Les Paul. When I got to the garage I was a little disappointed in the amount of flame on the 60’s model. I was presented with the option of a Murphy Lab, though they are beautiful I was not ready to lay down that kind of cash. The sales person brought me a Slash November Burst which by all accounts looks like a tobacco burst to me. I played it for a few minutes in the store, connected with the guitar right away. Brought it home and fell in love with the guitar. Now I am a Slash fan but I was not buying the guitar because I am a fan of Slash but more because of how it felt and sounded. I have not been disappointed at all. It looks and sounds beautiful. The Burst Buckers in the guitar have a very warm sound and from what I have learned mimic his Seymour Duncan’s that he used to play. I have Fender, PRS, Taylor, and a few Gibsons and I have to say I am very happy with their guitars. I bought a Les Paul Custom in 2013 and a 2019 ES 335 dot with P90’s…very happy with all of them…I may have been lucky but the quality seems spot on and the instruments are played often….Would love to see you guys carry Gibson.

[@playdelay]

I hope ya'll can carry whatever brands you want. Gibson hasn't been caught up with orders for our local stores for a long time. There was a big push after Xmas but that was peak guitar boom and it didn't last.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Ye, they're a struggling and hopefully will get caught up without too much of a QC hit.

[@JiminTennessee]

@@CasinoGuitars this is an excellent point! With sooooo many back orders and lack of people to fulfill them, we all may look back on this “production period” for all brands as less than optimal. It has happened before. The boutique folks however, have a better chance at keeping their integrity, if they don’t get greedy of course? Made and Sourced in America should be our mantra as musicians.

[@tonysturgill6624]

I’ll second your comments about Sweetwater boys. I ordered my ice tea burst Les Paul almost 6 months ago and Luke called me monthly with updates until I got it a week ago. Superb guitar and worth the wait. Very lucky to be their customer because I’ve heard other music store customers are waiting far longer that that. Gibson is back on track, but they do need to focus on volume without going back to making trash quickly.

[@miketuttle9319]

Was talking to the owner of a cool guitar store near Malone NY a few weeks ago, he was trying to carry Gibsons (this was before current ownership), they were completely inept and didn't seem to care and finally after jumping through a bunch of dealer hoops he told them to pound sand.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Ye, they were rather nightmarish in the not so distant past. We are still waiting to see if things have truly changed with wishful thoughts to the future:)

[@MrGixxer1300r]

I just fell out of my chair, and blew my drink out my nose over you guys talking about Jared James Nichols. Kudos men!!

[@CasinoGuitars]

He is perhaps the best thing ever:)

[@mikegreen2417]

"Casino Guitars unfiltered and honest" Put that on an adult vintage onesie tank top swimwear merchandise line.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Man that is a perfect idea!

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I love honesty. It doesn’t always feel good in the short run but I truly appreciate the people in my life that I know won’t blow smoke up my butt just to make themselves feel better!

[@brandonthompson8413]

I can say without a doubt their guitars are being made significantly better. Over the past few years I have owned 3 les pauls. A 2014, a 2019, and this year i got a 2021 standard. I no longer own the 2014 and 2019 lot's of issues with QC, and they never felt like quality guitars. The 2021 is one of the best guitars i've ever put my hands on regardless of brand. Everything on it is just perfect and it wants to sing, it is truly a great guitar worth the $2k price tag. I know there are probably some lemons out there. When I went to buy this guitar I tried around 25 les pauls. And the one I got had something different going for it. It's a 60's standard and the neck is ever so slightly thicker than the other 60's standards, not quite as chunky as the 50's standards but definitely has more girth than the other 60's standards I played. Maybe that's the magic in the guitar i got? i don't know but I don't think I'm ever letting this one go. This guitar is what imagine people say when they say there are some magical gibsons, because it truly is magical. The pickups are reminiscent of a telecaster but with slightly more punch, and the playability is superb. The tuning stability is perfect as well.

[@caramanico1]

I had about the same experience with a 2005-6 Heritage Cherry Standard. Unfortunately, life intervened and it... got away from me.

[@cwmims]

I recently purchased a Gibson ES 345. I heard Gibson has had QC issues in the past so I was little nervous. But to be honest, in regards to the 345 I received, Gibson's QC was on point! However, getting the guitar was a nightmare. I placed an order with Sweetwater back in January 2021. They promised to have it by mid March, then mid April, then the beginning of May, then they quit promising an arrival date all together and literally said, "Maybe sometime in August...we hope." That was the final straw, I cancelled the order and purchased it from GC and it arrived a week later. To sum it up...I give Gibson an A on QC, but a C- on production. But perhaps this can be the case were one effects the other. Churning out guitars sooner may adversely impact QC. Just a thought.

[@kosmonument2682]

I picked up a Les Paul during the pandemic. It's my lifetime guitar and never getting sold. I swapped the pickups and put a bunch of dings into it already. Amazing instrument. Later I saw a V on a wall and played it for a laugh. Couldn't believe how much I liked it and picked it up. When I checked the serial number, it was my birthday guitar. What a coincidence! Obviously can't sell that one either. I think the 2019-current Gibsons are some of the best made Gibsons ever, surpassing basically everything since the 60s. Absolutely awesome guitars.

[@julianperry4767]

As a player I'm always turned off from Gibson for online shopping due to QC issues going back many years now. It's one of those guitars I absolutely have to see and feel in-store to know if I'm getting a "good one". I don't trust them in the same way I could safely buy say a Fender Strat from Sweetwater or something and get it professionally setup later.

[@DylanTalksTone]

This is a great video y'all. I am gonna chat about this on my live tonight.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Thanks Dylan! Looking forward to seeing it!

[@paulcowart3174]

My last purchase was a barely used 2019 HCS Standard Absolutely perfect fit and finish but the guy from East Nashville Music Supply said they went over it with a fine tooth comb but I didn't really ask them if anything was off But binding - finish - everything lined up right Super happy with it Got a great weight too and that was the main thing that made me pull the trigger at 22 hundred So a little more than what a used one goes for but everything was perfect Actually stopped by Nashville from Florida on a road trip we already had planned so the stars aligned just right 😂 My Gibson stable is 2019 Standard..66 SG Jr and a 69 Cherry burst 12 string acoustic(needs a neck reset) Give them another chance guys 🥰

[@ChrisEck13]

I actually like the things Gibson is doing with the app and record label. They've also been highlighting up and coming guitarists and working with some of the well established bands. If we want more guitar based music, the resources they're developing are important parts. The app is a fantastic tool for beginners to learn how to play and be entertained while doing so. Its like guitar hero but you're actually playing and really learning chords, scales, licks, and techniques. And the record label is important because they're aren't many labels out there that are looking to take a chance on rock music. Sure Gibson made some questionable business choices in the past but the things they're doing now are good for the guitar community as a whole, regardless of your preferred brand of guitar.

[@hammill444]

Gibson is doing everythung right--- except for building quality guitars. But other than that, it's great.

[@ChrisEck13]

@@hammill444 They're building great guitars again as well.

[@Lovell93]

@@ChrisEck13 Yeah, every 1 out of 15

[@paulthorn6437]

Are you sure you don't mean Das Boot?

[@CasinoGuitars]

Damn did I say u571…? Holy cow totally meant das boot, sheesh…that’s what happens when you’re exhausted!

[@davegallagher7428]

I have an idea for Gibson. Take a small fraction of what you were going to send to GC and reroute them to Casino Guitars, then prospective buyers could actually talk to somebody who knows something about Gibson guitars and people would buy them and then Gibson would make money. So would Casino but I’m trying to figure out why Gibson is ghosting/freezing out Casino? I’m not on any social media but I went onto the Gibson website and requested they make Casino One of their retailers with actual product. I hope this helps.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Thanks a ton Dave! They're not really ghosting anyone they really are in a situation of supply and demand issues but that being said we agree 100% with your idea. They need people that really want to showcase the brand....and have some fun!

[@caiusmadison2996]

AHEM, MONEY. That is all. Seriously. One word, your whole massive paragraph.

[@barbmelle3136]

Maybe if the clueless corporation that owns the gibson name would spend less time threatening everyone else with no basis, they could build and sell more guitars.

[@charlesrense5199]

U571 was not a German film. You're thinking of Das Boot. U571 was a Hollywood attempt to sort of do Das Boot.

[@CasinoGuitars]

It was for sure Das Boot...I was super tired and goofed...I fixed this in the description but damn...totally different movies:)

[@smelltheglove2038]

@@CasinoGuitars and you fancy yourself a film buff? Pfssh. Lol. Love the channel.

[@timchalmers1700]

You guys are very honest and we appreciate your honesty greatly. On the other hand, your honesty creates a marketing problem for guitar companies that have trouble with quality control. If I were Gibson, I wouldn't let you represent Gibson guitar until the QC problems are solved. Which means you will be waiting until you're too old to skateboard.

[@cupolove1]

This is insane. I’ve been watching these videos for ages and it never mentally registered that you’re in Southern Pines! I’m just up US1 in Cary, NC. Lol I’m coming over!!!

[@rdmkeytohwy]

Gibson still has a ways to go to change their reputation with dealers as you have mentioned here. What they have done with the Epiphone line is outstanding and the guitars are pretty darn good. The headstock shape is closer to what is on a Gibson guitar and the pickups sound really good. They will get there but it will take time. Their custom shop still does great work.

[@hmrbruce]

I bought a gold top last year. The most perfect guitar I own. I am talking QC fit and finish. I am not saying the best guitar just the fit and finish was perfect

[@xxGriff]

Gotta ask you, What is your take on Gibson buying Mesa/Boogie?

[@AnkurWow]

Love that new pink Strat in the back… Wish it had 22 frets…

[@mattmasonoklahoma]

got outta the van in sturgis 2014 after 14hr trip to the gig..heard band soundcheckin Miss Queen from main stage..ran down there n it was JJN rockin it..outstanding!

[@rayfabris2512]

then why is sweetwater out of stock on just about everything I needed and their salesman told me they wouldn't have les paul standards in until October or November btw not from Sweetwater but my brand new les paul will be delivered Monday from the Gibson garage great service and very cool place to do business with.i have been paying attention to gibson for the past few years and noticed what people are starting to say about what they are doing and its been really positive comments and reviews of their guitars that's why I figured out it was time to get my first Gibson.

[@floopusdoopus]

I once heard someone say that fender is like Ikea Furniture, reliable, comfortable, and cheaper. And Gibson is a luxury brand. A lot more work goes into a 335 than a Stratocaster. And Gibson has more variety I’d argue

[@oskarileikos]

Good analogy! I disagree with the last notion though. If you think about it, the Les Paul, SG, ES-335, ES-345, 355 (mono), ES-175, Flying V and Explorer, which are the most famous Gibson guitars (the only one guitar missing is the Firebird), are basically the same guitar in different clothes. If you take Telecaster's electronics and hardware and put them in a Jazzmaster, you essentially have a Tele with am offset body. A guitar that sure looks like a JM but definitely sounds like a Tele. Same applies with any Fender's electronics and hardware in a different model's body. With Gibsons, if you take Les Paul's electronics and hardware and put them in an ES-335, well, you now have a 335 that has nothing special about it. Or if you take the electronics and hardware from an ES-175 and put them in an SG, you have a normal SG. So in a way almost every Gibson is just the same guitar with a different appearence.

[@davidmiles533]

And PRS now has better quality than Gibson. I have a HB II P that I’d put up against nearly any 335.

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

@@davidmiles533 PRS has incredible quality control and makes great guitars.

[@davidmiles533]

@@rosewoodsteel6656 I could t agree more. I have two SEs and a Core McCarty 594 10 top. I’m retired and funds are limited. However, I gladly sold an SG and an American Strat to pay for that 594. Sweets playing and LOOKING guitar I’ve ever seen.

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

@@davidmiles533 When they resume the "Experience PRS", you should take a trip to the factory if you haven't already. It's an awesome event and touring the factory is amazing.

[@Kinda_lingers]

If Baxter believes the film U-571 was the best war film ever made he should read about the code breaking effort during the battle of the Atlantic in WW2.

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

OK guys, I watched halfway through and spot checked the rest and I still don't know why you can't carry Gibson. Is Gibson still requiring that dealers spend $500,000 (or whatever) on their Gibson inventory before they can become an authorized dealer? My apologies if I skipped past the reason you can't carry them..

[@mattbertrand9496]

As a gibson owner, I love juniors and actual vintage stuff, but so much of the Current stuff is super expensive for the quality

[@therollband1290]

You also need to buy like $20,000+ worth of merchandise every year to be a Gibson dealer. Not sure if they mentioned that. That’s why you don’t see a lot of smaller mom and pop stores with Gibsons.

[@CraigFlowersMusic]

How do you like that reverse bridge pickup on that pink strat? Does that sound good to switch it around like that?

[@CasinoGuitars]

It gives her a bit of a different bark:) And the neck on that one....sooooo big! Really cool guitar with awesome pickups in her!

[@tomdyll2728]

Gibson guitars, at least the core models, are some of the best available. I love the ones I own and play. The company suffers from all the pitfalls of any large corporate business. That said the current leadership is also doing some cool initiatives, Gibson Garage, Gibson Demo Shop on Reverb, New Artists, Support for KZbinrs. On the other hand, they also offer a $68 t-shirt, The Aviator Nation X. It's just the Gibson logo. I have to look at the ad for it every day when browsing social media. Who tries to sell a $68 t-shirt? Who buys a $68 t-shirt?

[@CasinoGuitars]

You got me at $68 Tee shirt! We still have high hopes for Gibson and bet they get it sorted eventually, but yikes, that shirt better wear itself :)

[@honkytonkinson9787]

High school kids probably. In the 90s I paid $30 for a plain black T with the Pearl logo; with inflation that’s almost $68. I don’t like to advertise for anyone anymore so I get my plain black Ts for very cheap

[@tednugentlives]

Fender makes the best shirts..its a fact.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

People are driven by hate enough to pay that much for an AOC garment just so they can burn it on you tube. I support that👍🏻

[@forensicbass]

I've got 3 Fender shirts, don't think I paid more than $68 for all 3. In fact I'm sure I didn't - they sent me one free for a delayed Mod Shop order when the pandemic started. Gibson is making some nice moves but still has a lot of catching up to do.

[@matt6l6]

I've been a "gibson guy" since 1983 and while I do love the guitars, there is always something bugging me about the way they do business. This most recent C&D deal with MOJOHAND FX may be the final straw for me. It just seems so unnecessary. Eventually they may piss off enough people to make a difference, but unfortunately they likely don't care. Also....6-7K is absurd for a new standard custom shop LP.

[@lastrockgod]

Yup especially if you can get a Collings for that price…

[@Aditya_Paliwal_9]

Hey sir, I completely understand your point here. 6 7 grands for a new CS Les Paul? That's a "lot".

[@JetAV8]

Jared James Nichols as Thor’s drinking buddy is now my favorite thought of him. Absolute behemoth.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Well match make that duo for sure!

[@matthewcasey892]

Ordered a custom shop 335 in November 2020. Deposit taken. I am now told to not expect until January 2022! That’s the current situation in Australia.

[@AcidicDelusion]

To be fair, Australia is just fooked.

[@matthewcasey892]

@@AcidicDelusion my 335 just arrived today!!!!!!!🎶✌️🙏😎

[@AcidicDelusion]

@@matthewcasey892 haha, nice. It definitely is a one in a lifetime guitar, I do love Gibson - I've been sitting on an SG in my online checkout for months but just can't justify the price . Currently looking at sg alternatives and Yamaha is looking tasty.

[@cc5053]

Put a Guitar Center sign on your building and a freight truck filled with Gibsons will miraculously appear. There is a 42 year old guitar shop in my town that was an authorized Gibson dealer and OEM repair shop for the majority of it's existence. The owner could walk into the Gibson plant and be greeted by his first name for years. Now he can no longer carry that brand and the last time he tried to order repair parts they told them they couldn't find an account number under his name....after 42 years!!! By no small coincidence, all of the local shops in the area, but his, have sold out to Music & Arts (owned by Guitar Center). Those M&A stores are ghost towns. They carry practically no inventory and the parking lots typically have 1 car in them at any given time (the employee). In my own opinion, Gibson and Guitar Center are working together to keep Guitar Center as the primary dealer in smaller markets and shut small shops out. I'd have to go to Dallas, TX, 300 miles away, to find a non- Guitar Center shop that carries Gibsons. The point is, Gibson would rather ship 500 units to one Guitar Center or large independent, than ship 5 -10 units each to smaller shops. They are manipulating the market.

[@addicted2tone349]

This is my favorite channel, guitars, commentary and humor..

[@randallcolthorpe6149]

I am not overly optimistic about seeing Gibson in SOP anytime soon. Baxter, if you had a pair of Vans might be able to ride the board. Check with Derrick for the latest styles. Can say that I am stoked about the Gibson- Casino relationship,

[@CasinoGuitars]

Rgr that Randy my man! Ill let Derrick keep the Vans going without me:)

[@stuartkinzel8195]

U-571 the greatest war movie and a German movie? Are you maybe thinking of Das Boot? I can't imagine anybody thinking that U-571 was "great."

[@CurrieNerd]

U571 was probably, apart from Enemy at the Gate, the worse war movie of all time.

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

I like what Phil McKnight said about selling the big three used years ago. If you try and sell a PRS, people will be like, "I don't know, there's a fingerprint on it, I think this has been held at some point. I'll give you $50 for it." For Fender they'll just give you 60% of MSRP unless you tried to relic it yourself or something. For Gibson you'll show up with a LP Studio and the Gibson logo will be upside down and they buyer will be like, "Yep, they'll do that." On a side note, I personally really like Gibson guitars. I know people love to hate on them, but I usually like the way they feel and sound.

[@jamessator5564]

My guitar in Champaign, IL , the Upper Bout , they are a Gibson dealer and can get any guitars they have ordered from them!! Hey 👋 Baxter and Johnathan !!

[@CasinoGuitars]

Hello James! Did you mean can or can't get any?...:)

[@jamessator5564]

@@CasinoGuitars far as I know, they have been waiting on a BIG order and haven’t received any of there orders yet ?

[@jralanmorgan]

I wish you could be involved in every community, Baxter!

[@CasinoGuitars]

Hey thanks a ton! Maybe one day I can be a community download...eeck:)

[@av8torboy]

I WAS a Gibson fan ever since I bought my first Gibson, an SG Standard with the Maestro tail, back in 1968. I've owned various LPs, 330s. 335s, SGs and even a first year Nighthawk. Having been disappointed in Gibson's decline in quality, in 1994 a friend of mine turned me on to PRS and I bought a used 1990 PRS LE. After I met Paul at a GC near Chicago in 1995, I bought a new Custom 24 and 10th Anniv Artist... and I've never looked back. With a Core PRS, I don't have to play it first to find it if it "talks to me" as they all do every time. I've bought, played and sold several PRS since 1995. The QC in their Core, S2 and SE lines are absolutely impeccable. When Paul retires, I hope the PRS innovation and QC continue. BTW, the only Gibson I still have is my all original '68 SG.

[@fawkesandhound]

I bought a post pandemic 2020 Tribute LP. Came in perfect QC-wise and set up was great, apparently plek’d. No complaints and I’m glad I did because as I guessed you have a long wait now.

[@jaorte10]

I bought a les paul gold top completely stripped of its hardware from an online dealer that parts them out. I then ordered all the finest aftermarket goodies and installed 50s style wiring. I don't know how much better they get cause I can't play them all but this one is a keeper.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Nice there! Cheers and thrilled you have a good piece!

[@alansamsmusic]

I always enjoy your videos, it’s like hanging out with your band mates and talking shop.

[@guitarbobification]

Hey guys keep up the good work! I was watching Trogly's show today and he mentioned that Gibson is working on more direct consumer sales. Fender has had the mod shop as well. I just can't help but wonder if dealers who had to buy a certain dollar amount of Gibson or Fender inventory and give exclusivity to these two big companies (at a cost to them for not selling other brands) are now scratching their head wondering how they did so much for distribution and the manufacturers can sell direct to customers now. Just curious if you went through that when you were a brick and mortar dealer? I sold BASF auto paints as a distributor to PRS and lost the business when DuPont factory reps came in to sell direct. Funny thing was Paul hired a guy on my recommendation who had a factory relationship with DuPont and that was why I lost the business. Then when BASF went to get the business back they cut me out of the loop. It was a bitter pill and a lesson that big manufacturers will do what they need to sell their product no matter how much you do for them. Ancient history in my life LOL, but I would hate to be a small musical instrument dealer these days for that reason.

[@isabelfuentesnar1]

I think Gibson is doing fine now everything is legendary with them..... but.... the prices are getting too "legendary" ... may be the only problem....

[@smelltheglove2038]

Not sure if you have noticed but the prices for everything is getting legendary. It’s not Gibson’s fault the government is printing money at a ridiculous rate. Mad at rising prices? Get mad at the current government.

[@CasinoGuitars]

They re getting rather expensive, yikes. Let's hope the legendary stays in check there!

[@abcrx32j]

"Legendary" is well fitting, since legends are born through misinformation and exaggerating history to make it interesting.

[@Frosenborg]

@@smelltheglove2038 Government, companies, turbo capitalism. There was this article, a man worked as a firefighter back in the 50's/60's and he made about 1000$ a year. He took a bank loan of 3000$ and bought himself a house, three times the prise of his yearly wage. Today that same house is worth 600.000$, I've no idea if firefighters today make 200.000$ a year, probably not.

[@deveroe79]

Did the new rep contact you guys? You would think they'd at least give you some sort of explanation. Ex: "We're not opening new dealers until we can catch up on our existing dealer's backorders." or "We're still planning on opening you guys up, but we can't fufill until..." PS I hope this video is well received by them and gets the ball moving. On the other hand, I could see someone there getting their panties in a bunch about this and delaying it longer just out of spite.

[@CasinoGuitars]

We did speak with some folks and the team there seems pretty awesome! Hopefully no panties get in bunch over this as we clearly love the guitars but…we are a bit flummoxed after agreeing to rock n roll in Jan of 2020 and stayed pretty psyched to get goin through this entire time. In the end, we’re hoping all goes well for them and they can get their guitars to folks hands and keep the music going. It’s all flipping fun and it’s only rock n roll!

[@the_armada5579]

Ok im very concerned that the blue strat isn't in the background

[@CasinoGuitars]

Don't worry! She was just taking a break for a bit:) She won't be going anywhere!

[@eldiablo3794]

"Das Boot" starring Jürgen Prochnow is the German submarine movie, not the American movie "U-571" starring Matthew McConaughey.

[@timmotel5804]

Das Boot! Good Movie. I just watched a Gibson Factory tour. There was hardly anyone working there. Nowhere near as sophisticated as the Fender Factory. The place was almost empty of workers. "Bare Bones". I do wish them Success. They need to be here making high quality instruments. Thanks Guys

[@guitarlusteuphoria4507]

Recently bought a Gibson Southern Jumbo. Had to send two back before I found a good one. I can't believe they let those guitars out for sale. Can't believe Sweetwater did not catch huuuuge flaws in finish and playability in their "55 point inspection." Finally found one I LOVE from a competitor. (Except for the cheap cheap one ply truss rod cover.)

[@alfredsenteno327]

When you say playability, can you be more specific? I had the chance to buy a 2023 J45 Standard played it and wasn't impressed, kind of dull wonder if it's a dud The owner said he'd let me have it for $1600. red flag right there. They're going for $3000 at the local music stores. There are no J45's in stock in town to compare it to. They all say they'll order one for me though.

[@alfredsenteno327]

Also, when you weren't satisfied, did SweetWater try and say there was nothing wrong with them?

[@guitarlusteuphoria4507]

@@alfredsenteno327 No they took them back, but were slow to credit my credit card. Terrible communication and follow through.

[@bluzzjazz]

I'm only an 1.5 hrs from you guys, I'll have to get by at some point. Speaking of Epiphone, I have a couple that are fantastic guitars. One is a MIK Black Beauty Custom w/3 pups. The fit/finish is better than on most Gibson LPs I've come across. The pups sound great, just as good as some of the 57 Classics I have. The Sheraton Union Jack I have, is a great bang for the buck. Has Gibson mini HBs....sweet. Lastly, I have an MIK SG Custom from around 03, very well constructed, great neck. However, the pups sound like absolute mud. Sits in the rack, one of these days I'll swap them out.

[@DennieSparkman]

I bought a new 2018 Limited edition Les Paul Koa that was good and a new Pre-War SJ-200 Rosewood a few years later that was also excellent except for the case. It took a long time to receive the Pre-War Jumbo as nobody seemed to have one in stock anywhere in the country but I finally tracked one down and bought it. I was interested in a "Doves in flight" acoustic but cant find one for sale anywhere new. Guess I will have to special order it if I want one but these days its looking like I may never buy another Gibson as there are so many QC/Supply issues with them and there are so many really great alternatives for far less money. Its a real shame what's happened to Gibson down through the years.

[@felipepaiva7996]

Gibson is a great company with a strong brand and heritage. But... to start, they could have upgraded the design of their products (headstock dive on SGs, headstock break issues on LPs). Instead of putting robotic tuners, why didn't they correct neck issues? Today, with CNC machines and production quality protocols available to many other brands, I don't see much advantage to get a Gibson guitar.

[@philhood4604]

I understand that dealers have to dedicate a minimum amount of wall and floor space of the store, and cannot pick and choose which models you stock?

[@nankypooh655]

Perhaps you could talk to Thomann Musikhaus and be the first guitar store in the U.S. to carry Harley Benton guitars. Lord knows, I've been trying to order from them for months, and the order never seems to go through. Of course one would have to figure out the logistics of paying for import, duty, and other stuff......(Thomann Musikhaus is based in Germany)

[@smelltheglove2038]

Holy crap! Baxter, skateboarding is fucking awesome! I’m 40 and still skate everyday! I skate exclusively at this point at a skater built DIY skate park in Philly called FDR. It’s awesome you are advocating for skateparks. Make sure the town builds concrete parks. The “pre-fab” stuff falls apart and isn’t worth the investment.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Nice advice...and yes, concrete all the way. The problem is our town is not really cool with this yet. Good news is, my wife is running for council. Then if she is elected, I can try to ply her with all of my counter culture ideals..oh not really, but at least hint at a skatepark some more:)

[@smelltheglove2038]

@@CasinoGuitars the key is to get the soccer mom types interested. They can move mountains. Tell them they can get the kids out of the house, it’ll give them more time for wine.

[@stop736]

U571 is the best war movie?!!! “The Deer Hunter”….now THAT is a war movie brother. 😎

[@CasinoGuitars]

Ye, I fixed that in the description...I meant Das Boot...completely brain misfired there...uhm hate myself there.

[@petermickelson7412]

@@CasinoGuitars DAS BOOT is awesome

[@stop736]

@@CasinoGuitars You’re fine bud! And Das Boot is excellent! I had a feeling you were mistaken when you mentioned U571 just because you said it was a German movie. Which U571 is not. So I figured you knew what you wanted to say, just the wrong words came out! LOL. We’ve all been there bro.😂🤙

[@CasinoGuitars]

@@stop736 I was so embarrassed by that good! I love das boot and who knows what my brain was doing:)

[@MrWhit30]

Had a good friend, banjo player, who owned a mainly acoustic shop back in the 90s. He desperately wanted to sell Gibson, banjos, mandos, and acoustics. But...in order to do so they made him fill up his store with cheap Epiphone acoustics which he had a hard time selling. He also had Blueridge and Seagull which were much better guitars at the same price point. They made him carry so much crappy inventory he didn't want and couldn't sell that it pretty much put him out of business. As far as electrics go, same deal. In order to get one or two LPs he had to stock 30 Epiphones.

[@peterrebhahn1113]

"Das Boot" is the ultimate WWII submarine movie.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Yes, that was what I meant ( I fixed that in the description)...somehow my brain just goofed...PLESAE don't watch U571 and think that is the Great War Film I spoke of...eeeck...:)

[@terrylawrence1893]

Where Eagles Dare or Guns of Navarone

[@sailorguitarguy6443]

True Story, as I remember it. I worked at a music store in the late 1990s. We had sold 5 very expensive Les Pauls. Over the next few months all of those guitars had come back and needed repairs. We would send them back to Gibson and when they came back to us they were not repaired, some of them had not even been touched. We refunded the customers and sold them other guitars. So when the rep walked in the front door the owner took all 5 guitars and set them outside the store and told the guy don't ever come back. Literally in the middle of the argument this lady walks in the door and was watching what was going on. She stopped the rep and said. My dad retired from Gibson and his last job before retiring was cutting the headstocks off of Epiphone guitars and putting Gibson headstocks on them. The rep turned around and left.

[@jedisparky]

Im sure there's a good reason, bought used to flip, but there's 4 or 5 Gibsons hanging on the wall right behind you? Just curious.

[@brucer261]

I'm a bit surprised I have not seen any Gibson custom shop stuff locally. I have seen Fender custom shop stuff but no real high end Gibson stuff. But I guess I am in Canada though EH !! : )

[@justinfilmore]

Both of my local stores dropped them a few years back.

[@savethedandelions]

gibson: a brand name owned by a private equity group, feeding on (older?) peoples' nostalgia.

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

It's okay to say "Boomers." We screwed it all up for you so... GOOD LUCK 😃

[@savethedandelions]

@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ haha...i'm not even a boomer (my parents are), and i'm tired of that word.

[@caramanico1]

Yes, U-571 was fantastic. But try Das Boot - even better. Gibson. I've always LOVED GIbsons. I like the fact that they are basically superbly made gorgeous works of art that can be used to make fantastic music. Including rich country, snarling rock and wicked blues. IMHO - I do not give a for the whole cheap or beat up or "Road Worn" crap. I got it that image is a thing, but if Jimmy Page never invented his symbol and never wore his poppy/dragon suits I still would have bought a Heritage Cherry 'burst because of the awesome rock tone/sustain and the gorgeous looks.

[@noelbarnard7172]

He said it was a German film so I think he meant Das Boot but said U-571 on accident.

[@davidwilliams7586]

Welcome to the club. Gibson/Epiphone is throwing tons of money at marketing but can't seem to deliver guitars to any dealers. The marketing push is very focused but the manufacturing side is abysmal. It is very frustrating as they talk about 2019/2020 being banner years for Gibson financially. The supply chain is broken for everyone but Gibson seems to be impacted more negatively than any of my other manufacturers. A little honesty from Gibson would be greatly appreciated.

[@jtbandy1]

I ordered a Les Paul Special tv yellow (LH) from Sweetwater in January. Gibson still hasn’t shipped it to them. Over the past 8 months, I’ve had the same thoughts as everything you guys have said in this video. I mean how long does it really take to make a slab guitar? And why are they acting like everything is back to normal when they are so far behind?

[@CasinoGuitars]

Man, that is quite the wait! We feel for you and sincere thanks for sharing as well. Here's to hoping you get that guitar soon!

[@tednugentlives]

I got one for sale on the verb.

[@brianmckenzie1318]

Makes it even more painful to watch Gibby's upper management (as seen on Instagram and their YT videos) get guitars at will for their personal collections, while folks like you wait and wait! IMHO, the wrong optics to put out there for the real customers!!!

[@jtbandy1]

@@tednugentlives lefty? I’ve probably looked at it, but I need that sweeeet(water) financing haha

[@Steve.Cutler]

I worked at a music store in the late 80's. At that time you had to stock 20 grand worth of Gibson product to be a gibson dealer.

[@MatthewBaron]

Rule #1 of Business: When a customer wants to give you money, don't tell them to put away their wallet. Casino wants to give Gibson money. Gibson - take their money!

[@CasinoGuitars]

I would think that's a pretty logical business plan as well...:)

[@theapplepaul]

Still miss my '68 Les Paul Goldtop Deluxe

[@bravo0105]

The only outfit in my town that carries Gibson is Guitar Center; the others don’t even bother carrying Epiphone.

[@craigdockstader502]

I’m a super fan of Gibson, probably more than I should be, but I love them. All that said, I agree with Baxter, you have to call out the good and the bad.

[@justinconklin3501]

Super cool store, awesome guys!

[@SlainteMhath]

if Inglourious Basterds counts as a "war movie," then it is the greatest war movie

[@CurrieNerd]

*cough*.. Kelly's Heroes ;)

[@patrickyeager7994]

Wow u571 is an epic war movie Never thought it would be brought up on a guitar channel. You guys keep surprising me . Kudos.

[@clovergrass9439]

General Patton "We fought and destroyed the wrong enemy."

[@SikOfBS]

I've played a few handfuls of Gibsons over the years but only owned 3. I'm a firm believer that it's just hype. People get gooey over Gibson mostly because it's been around. Just being around isn't good enough, though (hell, McDonald's has been around awhile too, but that doesn't make them good, either). You need to have good QC, they really don't. We all know that's not a priority there. They're hanging on to the name simply because the predecessors kept it afloat. I had a mid 90s LP studio, an early 2000s worn SG, and a late 90s classic LP. Of those 3, the SG was definitely the best one, but that's not really a compliment, as they all had issues. I had the SG for almost a year, and the LPs were sold or traded within 2 months of acquiring them. I disagree with the QC getting better. Maybe a few good ones sneak through, but... Marginally doesn't count. Gibsons are needles in a hay stack; every so often you'll find what you're looking for, but mostly, it's just fancy straw.

[@_clauscarstensen]

One year later, is the situation different/better on the Gibson front? Do you sell Gibson guitars etc now, even?

[@vkelly1975]

I’m waiting 8 months and counting for a Gibson es339 ,to arrive in Thomann (Europe). It’s becoming ridiculous at this stage. I could go with an Eastman T484 for under half the price and I believe it’s probably a better guitar but I still want the Gibson to add to my other Gibson guitar as I haven’t got an ES thin line in my collection.

[@AcidicDelusion]

Get the Eastman

[@Hesohi]

Honesty is the ONLY policy. Gibson got better because people finally told the truth about the QC. They should be thanking you at least partially for your totally honest feedback. Totally Authentic.

[@CasinoGuitars]

Hey thanks a ton for that. That means a good deal to us!

[@grahamstuart9432]

You should check out a company called Walla Walla guitars. Not very many dealers and incredible phenomenal quality.

[@JuddLofthouse]

My local store in the north of England are the same want gibsons but can’t get any either 😩😩

[@CasinoGuitars]

Yikes...a strange turn from where Gibson was a few years back. Best of luck to y'all up there as well!

[@davidwickiser1402]

I’ve been told by some former Gibson luthiers that they lost most of their builders during the pandemic. And at least two have told me that Epiphones are better build quality currently.