WHY We Had to SMASH Our NEW TILE...(Don't Make This Mistake)

Hey Gang! We're continuing on our shower build today, and you guessed it....we're ripping out that tile. We gave you as many tips and tricks as we could along the way, but forgot to mention that when you work late, you make mistakes! No big deal, and nothing a hammer and some thinset couldn't solve. Cutting that stone gave us a little trouble, but once we had the right grinder, it was perfection, and that curb appeal is going to be sweet, we can't wait to tile the rest and get Jason back in there to install the glass and finish this thing off.
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[@matthewsaltzman5573]

As Scott Wadsworth from Essential Craftsman says, "If we're not making any mistakes, we're not getting much done, are we?"

[@dixiechampagne2892]

Love it

[@sterlingmullett6942]

When doing projects I've learned early on (through much angst and frustration), "if you don't have time to do it right the first time, how will you find the time to do it over?" Glad you went home and got that replacement grinder. I also learned that if you get tired on a job, especially if it involves chainsaws or power tools, you should stop. You'll make mistakes or worse, injury. Glad the tile was an easy fix. I really enjoy your show, and your professionalism and attention to detail is refreshing to see in a builder. Thanks.

[@coachmattc]

That last tile is something a homeowner probably wouldn't notice for the first few months. But once they did, they could never un-see it. 🙂 Great job on catching it and making it right.

[@danielsmith7935]

They would of called you sitting on the toilet once they realized it was out of pattern!

[@theRhinsRanger]

Draw a line with the grinder then the section at the cieling grind with a dremel then a quick file and grout, never ever notice lol

[@davegordon6943]

@@theRhinsRanger I make fake grout joints all the time.

[@staberdearth3130]

Funny, this error is something I would think about while trying to go to sleep as I slowly drift asleep. Not so much my wife, she’d be up and have a hard time getting back to sleep until the error is corrected.

[@theRhinsRanger]

@@davegordon6943 yeah ive done a couple lol

[@bobbruce3612]

Hi guys! As your friendly marble mason I'd like to offer a pro tip for cutting stone with a skill-saw. You actually want to cut backwards compared to cutting wood. when cutting wood, you push the saw forward, when cutting stone you pull it backward when using the skill-saw. Also, preferably you want to hold a wet sponge to the blade to keep it cool which will prevent the blade from warping and minimizing chips. An adjustable speed angle grinder (5/8" arbor) is a much more versatile stone working tool as you can use it for cutting, grinding, polishing and drilling holes. Cheers for another great video.

[@clintprice2123]

You graciously listening to the viewers and redoing the top tile shows you guys are great people. Some may listen to comments but a rare one would admit it and show it being redone. That was a great video!

[@Opa90278]

Stud Pack is by far my favorite KZbin channel. At about 9:30 on the video after the blade was put on the saw, you tested and the blade spun. That was the tipoff that the blade was not thick enough and not properly attached. Also having the blade on the left side of the saw is a great option; something that I never knew. It's a great consideration when purchasing. Also thanks for pointing out that screw is left handed and the blade label inside.

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Stud Pack is the best channel for home improvement work ! You all need to be on TV with a home improvement show!

[@tonybowers9490]

That was a bit of a brain tease. Initially I didn't notice what was wrong. It's one of those things I think few people would catch, especially with it being out of sight (up near the ceiling).. Kudos for fixing it. I think most people would have left it as is, considering the effort to correct it.

[@knowsenough2bdangerous]

Indeed - before it was fixed, I was trying to figure out what was wrong (I have little experience w/tile work). Then, when it was fixed, I would have never been able to "not see it" once I realized the problem had it not been fixed.

[@gkbuilding]

This is something more builders should do! Fix mistakes they notice! Not just say ahhh it’ll be alright! Great video Stud Pack!

[@y00h0011]

Exactly! Have some integrity.

[@ghostridergale]

You think stick homes have mistakes that’s not fixed, you should look close at a manufactured home some time. Especially if and when you go to do any remodeling in a manufactured home as I have. Unbelievable the things you find. Pulled up the carpet to put down a laminate flooring. The lazy jerks took strapping tape from the boxes they opened and stapled it to the underlayment with huge 2 1/2” staples and not just a couple staples either. Try least 10-15 staples if not more. You can tell exactly where they opened a new box too, right where you find another long piece of strapping material staples to the floor throughout the whole house and then covered up with carpet padding and carpet so you never know it’s there till you remove your carpet somewhere down the line! Then exterior doors were never put in correctly and it’s not from settling either. How do I know? Cause the doors are so crooked with the doors jams that with the doors shut you could see daylight shining thru the cracks between the dot and the jam. How did it fix this you ask? They took strips of carpet and staples it to the door jam so the light wouldn’t shine thru! 1/4 gap at the top of the door and 3/8-1/2” gap at the bottom of the door. Oh, and you don’t want me to even get started telling you about the wiring throughput the house! But I’ll give you a idea. The original home owner was changing his garage florescent lights and happened to touch a metal truss in the garage at the same time he touched the light while standing on the ladder and got full voltage ran directly thru his body knocking him 50 ft across the garage on to the concrete floor and shattered his shoulder disabling him for life. There’s not one light switch or plug in I haven’t had to redo in the whole house! Gets scary when you find a bare copper wire that’s hot! Just lucky for the lady that owns the house now after her husband passed away that she met me cause it would of cost her a fortune to have numerous contractors or sub contractors to come in and make the repairs that I’ve done for her and not charge her anything except the cost of parts. After seeing this place, I never recommend buying a manufactured home to even my worse enemy!

[@gkbuilding]

@@ghostridergale you should check out some of my videos on my manufactured home!

[@kevinintheusa8984]

I actually made the same mistake when I did our remodel about 15 years ago and missed a grout line. Man, I was not happy. Then to make it even better, my better half noticed it, and then it was harped on for a full two days. Harped is my way of saying she nicely pointed out my mistake, over, and over, and over again. I actually just used my angle grinder and diamond blade to cut a grout line in the right spot and it worked out fine. I did have to use a diamond round file to smooth the cut edges a bit but it worked out fine. Another great video.

[@ToolDeals]

I was thinking that too. Could've cut a line. I would've tried that first because if I messed up, I'd have to smash it out anyway.

[@plgard]

“Harped On!” I have no idea what you mean. 🫤😂

[@andrewwilks2700]

I have my wife use a spray bottle to squirt some water mist when using diamond blades on the angle grinder. It really helps keep the dust down. Your cut edges look excellent.

[@TheKrisKing]

Jordan's camera work is getting even better! Top notch guys!

[@y00h0011]

p.s. Paul, take that grinder apart and see if you need to reset the brushes or maybe the cord terminals got damaged. Chances are, it can be saved.

[@ToolDeals]

Agreed. All that time messing around with the circular saw and running home in traffic, probably could've fixed it in less time. LOL, it's always fun to watch someone else make mistakes we all make when we're tired or are laser focused on doing it a certain way. They got it together in the end and it looks great!

[@y00h0011]

@@ToolDeals Paul just took the avenue that he knew that was going to keep them moving forward. Granted, cracking the case open may have only taken 5 mins.. But, no guarantees that it could have been fixed in time. But, he got it done ..which was the goal.

[@samfredo8140]

OMG, this series is right on my shower rebuild. Every video I see something new that I hadn’t thought about. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@johnnash4038]

When I did showers, I set my ledgers on different size blocks of wood. Easily removed and no patches. Also tapping the tile with a rubber mallet is essential to bonding the thunder. Keep up the good work. John Nash

[@itsfonk]

Making a bunch of cracks so you can consolidate them into one crack… I love your attention to the little things!

[@northernlightsrenovations1710]

You guys are rockstars! I love seeing your channel grow with all these subs. You broke the quarter million barrier, now to stretch for that 1 million subs barrier. Keep the faith brothers.

[@mjmyers64]

Great video as usual, I have been doing the same type of work for 20 + years. Your work ethic and quality is definitely the best I have seen on KZbin. Next time you have to dry cut tile try holding a damp sponge on blade while cutting, it will keep the dust down and the blade cooler, which in return equals better cut. I got that tip from a lifelong tile setter.

[@tonybruno8429]

Definitely agree

[@cc1k435]

Honestly, even as a homeowner I think I would have shrugged, 3 or 4 years later when I looked up in the shower and finally noticed the tile pattern. 🤣 Good for you for fixing the little things!

[@ThatsMyBass614]

I'm a real Klein Tools fan boy! They are the tools I grew up watching my dad use. Glad to see much of their stuff is still made in the USA, and glad to see them supporting you guys. I think you are a good representative for any brand.. and I really like you used the tools before they reached out! I have been wanting one of those wrist magnets ever since I saw them on this channel. Good job on the tile!

[@Tierone1337]

Was your dad an Electrician?

[@creative_vlad]

Here’s another tip: you can cut a fake grout joint in the tile, about 1/8 of an inch deep. That way you don’t have to deal with the small piece 😎

[@JamesofJesus]

Awesome idea for the steady hand or saw

[@jameshines6486]

Thats a hacker solution.

[@callmebigbee123]

Wow ,way to come up with a fix, that's a good one

[@marcopoulin1897]

Real pro know that trick i do sometime🤘

[@peanutbutterandjubilexsamm4375]

I am an amateur, in my best day - these videos are inspiring, informative, and most importantly, entertaining. Thank you for sharing your passion and diligence with the world. Keep them coming!

[@GR8WHITEC5]

Your work ethic is amazing. And clearly, your meticulous attention to detail is proven time and time again.

[@michaelwalker5880]

I'm a former hvac business owner building my own log house for the first time. My main helper & I have named ourselves the "Do-Undo & Redo Construction Company" One sure needs to keep a sense of humor when doing O.J.T. It's really helpful to see how to do it right the first time and that even the pros occasionally have to undo & re-do! Thanks.

[@-carlos-danger1891]

A good glass guy is KEY. I've been working with mine for 20 years, and is an ace. especially in cases where things are a little out of level.

[@pj1080]

Appreciate the clarity in what all do. With Jordan behind the camera and never “working”, ready to see him tile the rest of it.

[@michaelramos5357]

Thank you guys for all your hard work and for sharing it with the world!!

[@duenge]

I'm 61. My Dad could not drive a nail straight. I learned from PBS TV shows, books and magazines. Your son is so fortunate to have a great teacher....

[@lyradm1]

Both of you and your production just gets better and better. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@s-w]

That's great that you fixed it! I respect a man that takes pride in his work.

[@Candisa]

Great attention to detail right there. As a DIYer I probably would have left it like that in my own home, telling myself it's one less grout line to get dirty and not worth the time to fix when there's still so much to do around the house... But things like that always bother the mind for years on already rough days, so great job catching that and fixing it!

[@onlyme8870]

As some probably comment glad you didn't just short cut and use a multi tool to put in that tile cut. Never tiled a bathroom before so will be rewatching the series til I have a decided plan and tools list. Thumbs up.

[@bascodelagamma]

Thank you for fixing that last tile. I didn't catch it in the last video, but I'm very much like you guys, knowing that it was wrong would have made me crazy. Thank you so much for your awesome work and videos. I've seen them all!!

[@martinp1544]

The humor and jokes are very good. The video quality, editing and clipping is really awesome. The info is always top notch!

[@gerrywaite5736]

I installed a complete shower enclosure this year and really appreciated what glass installer go through. I wish our tile installers had watched these videos. The uneven tile and "pony wall" made installing the glass on the pony wall and the small glass full height return a real challenge which then made hanging the 36" x 74" glass door a challenge as well. All went well, but having tile setters that were as detailed as you would have made my life a lot easier. Thanks again for all of the info. I am enjoying all of your videos.

[@nobuddynoah]

I am a senior interior design student and love the videos. I am wanting to head into residential remodeling after college and your videos have helped me solidify this plan. It was cool hearing a little from Jason about his process. As a junior designer, I pulled some helpful info.. first using stock size doors to save on time/cost with a filler panel to fill the gap, and second I didn't think about having hardware powder-coated to be an exact match, that is a great idea and the possibilities are endless if a client has the money! Thank you for the great content!!

[@mrcryptozoic817]

I quickly learned while building cabins: Never do "one last thing" after dinner. It never goes well. I also learned, regarding handedness, to practice using the "off" hand as frequently as practical. In the long run you won't even notice which you're using. But after 30 years, I still can't write legibly with my left hand (I'm 70ish).

[@spayced]

Great tip when learning a new skill. You never get tired if you can switch hands.

[@danthecarpenterman9463]

Good father son duo , I used to work for my dad on the job , he retired and I ventured out and opened my own business … years later he works for me as a project manager . It’s good to have him around

[@geneard639]

I can say this about removing that tile, it proved that y'all do a great job tiling because it did not want to come off and had full coverage.

[@isaacholzwarth]

I was kind of thinking the opposite 🤔 you shouldn't be able to see the trowel lines when the tile comes back off. Am I wrong about that?

[@73er-xy3ky]

@@isaacholzwarth Nope! Ridges should have been collapsed

[@isaacholzwarth]

@@73er-xy3ky that's what I thought.

[@josephmelendez9468]

This is definitely going to help with my first time bathroom renovation. Love it guys!! Keep it up!

[@doyourbest7655]

Always have the best ideas after the job is done. Because of the bevel on the stone threshold the plywood template should have been placed with the same bevel wedges. I know it’s not much of an angle change from 45 but if going to the trouble of a template it just gets the joint perfect. I have been disappointed with myself for not taking that extra on similar conditions, and when I remembered the next time the fit was superb. It’s the details, and everyone wants to do there best, and be proud of it. Thanks for all the great ideas and comments on new materials, thumbs up!

[@HOGSBREATH1978]

I see it now but not sure anyone else would. But you have integrity.

[@rsmith7292]

It does look much better! I might have left it (or drawn a black line with a sharpie to fake a grout line -- kidding!). Thanks SP for upping my game!

[@cdurkinz]

Lol a sharpie line that's good.

[@Chris.Rhodes]

Definitely could've used a grinder and a small rotary tool to make a fake grout line. Tape it, get your line, grind in between the tape 1/16" then grout it.... you'd never know it was one tile lol

[@handlebullshit]

@@Chris.Rhodes This, but grind it all the way.

[@Chris.Rhodes]

@@handlebullshit yeah you can, or you can V grind it. Whichever. It's a "easy" fix for something if it's just a small cover up. Depending on the tile, shit can be expensive to just smash and install a new one. But I'm not a tile guy, just putting my opinion out.

[@a..d5518]

@@handlebullshit In this case getting the grinder all the way to the edge of the tile would be impossible due to the ceiling so you'd need the rotary tool.

[@DewaltFanboy]

It always feels great to fix a mistake and know that you can put your word behind your work.

[@jeremyrebel8931]

Anybody who has ever done a home project has made mistakes and the fact u guys don't hide anything really shows how top notch u and this channel are! Great job!

[@tydontdie5024]

Amazing channel guys I miss doing this kind of work my boss passed in October last year but watching you guys reminds me of how it was when me and him worked together, I’m currently doing my own home renovation project I’m thinking about posting stuff about it on my channel. Anyway thank you guys for working so hard to bring this amazing content to us

[@danbrookshire5628]

Everyone makes mistakes. Thanks for not being afraid to show yours.

[@sen3574]

quick tip to avoid lengthy cleanup and possiblity of chipping a tile with shrapnel, duck tape the tile you will be replacing

[@Wolfburns]

Love watching the videos and the music during transitions is always great. I enjoy have Stud Pack videos on in the background just for the musical interludes. Thank you as always for the content, greatly appreciated!!!

[@pd9717]

I like this channel. This episode is real life and shows what really happens. The attitude is absolutely awesome. I agree, when something is not right, fix it. Good handling of the grinder by the way.

[@raymondconnors3016]

I started in the tile trade in 1980 in California. Worked for @ 20 yrs. started making decorative art tiles in 1992. Long story, just got back to the tools, a lot has changed in the materials. I actually did that same mistake with the pattern. I did catch it before it dried. Nice attention to detail. Always learning 🙂

[@brianblair6696]

I used a leftover piece of quartz for the bottom of the niche in my shower, almost like a mini countertop. Recommend trying sometime on your projects.

[@cineaste1969]

You guys are the best. Another great video. I really enjoy that you show the fact that you guys show both your mistakes and more importantly how you fix them. Keep up the good work and keep going to three hundred thousand! 👍🏼

[@OtterBeSwimming]

Great job, well done. I was wondering last time why you hadn't cut that tile but figured you were doing it quick. Nice to see you fixed and did it right. Lots of hints for me to watch as our contractor builds out house.

[@mikesmithh]

Guys, great job as usual. I love how you explain everything.

[@dennisslattery499]

Beautiful anxiously awaiting the finished job! Your quiet a skilled Craftsmen! Love Klein Tools!

[@kristenvincent3622]

Love the accent tile idea in the niche and continuing it in the curb. We did something similar in our master bath is our last house, I had a single piece shower/tub surround and needed to put in an accent strip when tiling to fill in the space between the surround and ceiling and matching the 6x6 pattern on the surround. “I’m going to add an accent strip so my layout will fill the space!” I had some leftover large wall tiles from our basement project and actually tiled behind the toilet too (easy cleaning with messy boys!) and matched the accent strip from the shower which pulled the whole room together. My husband thought I was absolutely nuts until after he saw the final results and the first day it was his turn to clean the bathroom! Little details really elevate the space.

[@chrisfromtx9089]

Had me worried for a minute there. I was thinking a big mistake, but good on you to notice and make it right. I love to watch you guys work, and the attention to detail is exactly what I'm looking for so that my projects don't look amateurish. I appreciate all the tips and tricks too! When is the next podcast?

[@rickdringoli9444]

That Klein dead blow is my go to for tender hammering.....great vid guys!

[@ZeroCarbDaddy]

This is why I subscribed to your channel. You are not afraid to show us mistakes and how to fix them.

[@kenmore01]

I guess we'll be seeing the grout next, because it'll have to be done before the shower glass goes up. Looking great!

[@hahsmc]

Great work. Why wouldn’t you use your wet tile saw to cut the stone?

[@jthonn]

No one would have noticed or cared. You knew it was there and could not let it slide, good man!

[@y00h0011]

Engineering and design is everything. Thinking everything out is key. The forethought of ever so slight pitch so that the sweep is not having to endure excessive pressure, is one the things that will tell in time whether or not the design installation was done correctly.

[@milesharlan1]

Studpack Thursday!! Thank you guys ..Keep up the good work!!

[@johnknightiii1351]

I love Klein tools! Glad they reached out to you

[@tedspens]

I bought the same Porter-Cable saw about the same time for the same reason, put put it through more abuse than you have (trust me on that one) and it's still my everyday saw. The stone looks fantastic! 👍🏻

[@travisk5589]

I like using the premade stone and or quartz 6" backsplashes for my curbs. They look great, seal perfectly with the shower door, and no grout joints to leak.

[@dcorey35]

Great point on taking that little extra step Nobody notices on the front end but they will appreciate later on down the roadway

[@VencerVents]

That last piece of tile you smashed up there explains the quality of your work, very nice, great job guys.

[@doyourbest7655]

Great idea about the stone for the threshold into the shower. When I have stone kitchen counters, I have them make bathroom door thresholds to transition from hall floor to bathroom. Threshold is 3/4 tile 3/8 . I get a water stop for loose water accidents in the bath, and don’t have to match the carpet or vinyl floor finish heights.

[@JDLMedia]

Your attention to those little details makes a all the difference!!

[@MichaelLander-pk2my]

I cut my stone curb caps on my wet saw. I just mark it, hold it on a 45, and it cuts clean every time. I even cut mitres on my wet saw for vertical pieces at the ends of knee walls. Also, I remove my leveling spacers the very next day so if I have to clean Thinset out of the joints, it’s still slightly soft and easy to remove. Thanks for the tip on using a margin trowel to rake back Thinset away from your joints. That’s helpful

[@KingSobieski]

Good method to check your thinset coverage. :)

[@chopprguy]

How about a diamond bladed saw cut. Then just repair the overcut slice on the ceiling.

[@QuaDAddicTDaN]

Hey brother, fantastic work! Glad to see others out there taking pride in their craft and doing top notch tile work. I appreciate you guys starting off the video with showing mistakes. A lot of people won't ever admit when they mess up. Super cool of you. I've made this same mistake before and had to rip the tile out. However, their is sometimes an option to cut a false grout line and save the tile and polish/sand the edges. I also like using false ground lines with smaller pieces or inside of niches. Just use the wet saw to score half way into the face of the tile making sure not to cut all the way through. Keeps small pieces from moving around and adds extra stability and more level outcome. I'm sure you are already aware of this method, but some others might not be. Have a blessed day guys and keep up the great work. 👍🏻

[@robertjonder544]

I love you guys! You really explain things well and you both have a great rapport!

[@eclipsestorm1975]

I noticed it on the last video. It wouldn't have bothered me as bad as it did you, but it's nice that you pointed it out and fixed it. You guys are great

[@eddiefromcali]

Pro tip, you can cut a fake grout line on a tile so its a single piece. Would have been a perfect use for a piece like that up there.

[@brody6634]

Even if he wanted to do simple fix like this, rather then properly fix it, the ceiling would be in the way of finishing the cut.

[@jonmorris4730]

and wouldn’t have a factory edge

[@marcopoulin1897]

@@jonmorris4730no bigdeal i do that nobody can notice it

[@straight_to_finish]

Love your integrity with fixing that tile! Pro-tip: turn any diamond saw into a wet saw. Soak up some water with a grout sponge and squeeze a little bit of water into the cut as your cutting with that grinder. It reduces dust and prolongs the life of the blade.

[@clintdavidson4040]

You guys are awesome! I have learned a ton watching your videos. Great work all around. Thank you!

[@dcblakley]

Great Video, thanks for sharing. I have the same PC saw, a real work horse. Still use it.

[@judycolgan9972]

You do realize that these videos are preventing me from actually doing my projects!! Haha! I am addicted and learning lots of tips! Thank you, Paul and Jordan!!

[@stevenicaise5223]

Well done, gentlemen!!

[@MuttMuttOutdoors]

The whole time you were using the circular saw the only thing I was thinking is "Why do a full depth cut?" It's so easy to make 2 or 3 passes and put less stress and heat into the stone. With a straight edge clamped in place you can easily make those passes and have a nice clean cut. With the little grinder you made little passes even on the first cut and that is what those blades and tools truly prefer. A worm gear saw I would do a full depth cut but only if I don't care if there is some breakout around the cut, with a straight shaft circular 1/4 to 3/8 is the range of depth I shoot for. Seriously expected you to try the tile saw though and would have cringed even more with the stone hanging out there unsupported. Anyway have enjoyed the shower build video's a ton. Currently replacing the roof, doing electrical and datacomm runs throughout the house with insulation to be a project for this summer since the 110 year old house has no insulation at all. For that matter it still has knob and tube for the lighting. But before long I want to do a large cast in place concrete tub in my downstairs bathroom and thinking about a curbless shower in the upstairs master bathroom that doesn't even exist yet. So when smashing the tile did you guys have the idea to just make a cut in the tile where the joint should have been? Not sure it would have looked as good but with your grinder a steady hand and a few touchups with the vibrating saw it would have likely looked decent. Especially since you ran out of tile previously so probably had to go get more.

[@johnparkhurst825]

Great series. Excellent job.

[@JustinLaNoue]

Jason did awesome, great guest interview!

[@larryholland1466]

I have that same saw, and it still works great

[@stevenvia2452]

I always enjoy your guys videos. So enthusiastic

[@dankelley9361]

Great job, beautiful work, love your channel!

[@jmaxim80]

Great job fellas it was a great video, the projects moving along nicely 👍

[@rotorblade7363]

That was a great video. I honestly did not see any problem with the original product, but you did and remedied it.

[@nickallain]

Man, that's a steady hand. Props!

[@loneranger4175]

You are my latest favorite home repair KZbin channel. You do nice work and are near professional hosts/commentator. You are the Bob Avila of KZbin

[@k87upkid]

So glad you fixed that. Noticed it in the last movie and was surprised that Stud Pack would cut a corner like that!

[@AlexeiTetenov]

Thanks for sharing!

[@napolitanotile2919]

Everyone should install tile first curb second !!! ""The Tile Whisperer "" lol

[@jpkemmitt]

Love your passion and dedication to quality. I'm in a stud pack rabbit hole right now haha. Great job on the top notch vids!

[@fredflickinger643]

Great job conscientious job!

[@jw1731]

Nice! I was wondering about that tile today.