Why We Have a Competitive Nature | Jordan B. Peterson

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[@davidneyra2086]

Happy to realize that my purpose is not simply to be happy.

[@IrlasYAkobi]

Why ? Seems to me being happy is a correct goal to have in life

[@crosstheworld6552]

@@IrlasYAkobi because happiness is derived from fulfillment. Fulfillment is where purpose lies. Happiness can come as a result of fulfillment but not necessarily. Therefore your life should be focused at finding fulfillment if you are looking for purpose and hopefully happiness will follow.

[@IrlasYAkobi]

@@crosstheworld6552 fulfillment comes from achieving something you desired. How is that of higher value than happiness? If like Jordan says the world is suffering and suffering is bad, then what you should be aiming at is the opposite of that. That,to me, describes happiness

[@davidneyra2086]

@@IrlasYAkobi I think that... If we extend the significance of happiness to something that does not contradict my suffering, then I accept it. But nowadays "happiness" turns out in something very naive. Also we are built to experience a full range of emotions and motivations. You will not always be happy (although you should be grateful if you are right now), so it's better to pursue meaning (in a truthful manner) given the innevitable suffering that implicates to be alive. It's like, to see the human being as a whole.

[@IrlasYAkobi]

@@davidneyra2086 but then the pursuit of meaning can also fail as I think jordan pointed out in this clip. Like take your best shot at the target but you may do that and also miss. If your reasoning is " well you will definitely not always be happy so let's not do that" then you also have to say the same thing about the pursuit of meaning. I do agree that happiness is definitely confused with pleasure or euphoria these days.

[@TheTrueNarthumpulous]

A lot of people bag on JP for saying "obvious" things in really complicated ways. But that's the point. Not everyone has a well articulated grasp on the "obvious" reasons why we do the things we do. It needs to be broken down into a scientific framework in order to help give emergence to a better understanding of "why" these concepts are so relevant. It's necessary.

[@johnjay370]

Correct. Some people ask for data but fail to understand context.

[@TheTrueNarthumpulous]

@@johnjay370 Or even more significantly, they fail to understand subtext.

[@johnjay370]

Here is something you might find useful. @Narthumpulous If you cultivate a wider field of knowledge and experience. You can then look at the underlying patterns that unite all groups of ideas. Then you can use that insight to create wisdom and more understanding. Then at the proper time you use it to your advantage. This is the beginning of mastery, and wisdom. I tried to explain this to my best friend and he said that he was not built to think that way. Ironically. He comes to the same conclusion one year later through experience, intelligence and data. This is one of the tools I have used my whole life. Why am i telling you this. Because thats what I did when I was listening to this video.

[@yteuropehdgaming9633]

Agreed.

[@spenceroc]

5:06 "As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another." -Proverbs 27 17(NIV)

[@luiscazares4465]

That's why we are here.

[@mariasinia8949]

What I'm aiming at for 2021 is to be more like dr. Peterson

[@tibbyralph2600]

That's a very high standard to set and achieve and you'd be missing the point Dr.Peterson said, which was to have a personal goal which was achievable. personal opinion on you aiming for 2021 is this. Tomorrow never comes, what you have is today and if you have a goal start working on it today, even if it's only little progress towards it. It will be something.

[@mariasinia8949]

@@tibbyralph2600 Hi, I'm sorry you didn't get the satire in my comment, I do understand the personal goal part. I'm a great admirer of dr. Peterson and wish to learn more from him and hope to have a positive impact on people and the world around me. If you really must know my personal goal is to become an Officer of the Dutch Royal Navy. Anyhow, thx for keeping me sharp. Cheers!

[@tibbyralph2600]

​@@mariasinia8949 A lot of young people admire their idols and wish to be like them so I was not able to see that as satire even as it was meant to be. This kind of conversation in youtube comments is so rare, It felt weird when I read your calm reply. I hope you are able to achieve your goal. Cheers!

[@Hato1992]

Don't be more like dr. Be better version of yourself. That's what's important. You may be not able to become 2nd Peterson, but you can becoem a better yourself for sure.

[@NoBody-md5mb]

Fake it until make it

[@tribacioustee2846]

Aiming to get employed again in 2021. Got rebuilding to do

[@92AlexanderS]

@Peter Slogan ah yes. Thanks for your intelligent analysis of the issue.

[@kingrenee1]

@Peter Slogan The survival of civilization requires work. Our ancestors from the Neolithic Era created civilizations and people had to work to survive. For example, some farmed, some made clothes, some built homes, some made weapons, and some hunted food. In contrast, even if you lived alone, you would have to work to survive such as build, farm, and hunt, et cetera. Work is work.

[@hiyaitsmariah452]

I went from a severe health problem and unable to work with no end in sight at the end on 2019, to just an hr ago accepting a job for the first time since. You CAN do this! Good luck and take care😊

[@Woodside235]

​@@kingrenee1 I want to reply to that Peter guy too because he's only half coherent to begin with, but I think you said enough for everyone.

[@robertcanavan8488]

Best of luck!

[@GH-lq9fg]

Jordan Peterson is great person and he fundamentally changed perspective of society. I no longer feel the need to just be alienated and alone, there is a reason behind it. Learn how to understand society and you can learn to understand how to make it better. I don't have a specific aim for 2021 because I already over achieved back in 2019, if anything to be able to make the world a better place now that my house is in order.

[@archivedaccount2049]

I wish you good luck.

[@johnathanhehehe]

i want a completion of Jordan's funniest moments and call it "Jordan Peterson being a stand up comedian for *how ever long the damn video is*"

[@Woodside235]

He's got that sense of dry Canadian humor.

[@johnathanhehehe]

@@Woodside235 i know it's brilliant 🤩

[@noodle_ship2348]

Please do it

[@johnathanhehehe]

@@noodle_ship2348 lol bro I ain't got da skills to create a KZbin video

[@noodle_ship2348]

@@johnathanhehehe Labor of love bro, you can do it! It would be an absolute hit!

[@tinfoilhatter]

he's great, isn't he? he just emanates goodness, it's like good energy, man! ya can't get too much of that stuff, i bet!

[@miloradpudaric7837]

It was Honduras vs El Salvador.

[@curtishammer748]

"In the end, nobody achieved anything and there were no winners... except this guy." *shows rich American banana company mascot - Oversimplified, 2017

[@victoriali9020]

Aiming for humility and reducing resentment.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

*_What I'm aiming at for 2021 is to start going to the gym and get everything in order so that I can start to study in university._*

[@chrisfranks4782]

That's a fantastic goal, exercise truly is one of the joys of life. I'm going to ask you, what is stopping from beginning now? You can get really string through bodyweight exercises like push ups, sit ups and squats. All the best

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

@@chrisfranks4782 *_For now I don't have a job and obviously, that is a goal before everything else but as soon as I get one I can finally get some money for a gym membership and I feel that membership will seal my fate as a gym stud (lol), but I am already doing exercises at home. I did go to the gym from January to April until corona came and my 1-year membership ended 10th of April so in that sense it wasn't a big loss that corona came. I Didn't see any results until July (3 months after I stopped going to the gym) and that's how I realized that it is crucial to take a break so that the muscles can grow. Anyway, all the best to you too_*

[@khayyamtranslations]

how did it go?

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

@@khayyamtranslations I do home exercise and I finally have a job and I'm studying to get to university. It might take 2022 to get to university. Hopefully in 2023/2024 I'll definitely be in Uni.

[@khayyamtranslations]

@@MadKingOfMadaya Nice brother! sounds good, wishing you good luck and fortune! have a great day!

[@generaltech512]

Peterson is one of the greatest men I've had the honor of listening to.

[@notbrad4873]

When my life was the most miserable, my girlfriend of 5 years was leaving me for another man and my friends were slowly drifting away. In the last embrace with her, she said, "I want you to be happy". I responded, "I don't think I can every be happy." Since then, my focus turned to starting a family and being there for them like no one has ever been for me. When I gave up on being happy, I started acting with purpose, and that's what keeps the fire burning in me. I truly believe some of us were never meant to be happy; some of us need that fight to feel alive. Fuck being happy.

[@fatpotatoe6039]

The fight is the joy of living. Good luck.

[@simonshura9144]

Facts, to much contenment and security is getting boring real quick indeed tho in life, like you end up safe,... but your not happy.

[@BigIgloo]

Aiming for learning another language in 2021. Thanks for the videos Jordan - I hope you can help everyone in these divided times.

[@josephsteve9949]

This could quite possibly be the best video anyone is this universe has ever seen... and this is no understatement!

[@olahfsmart3630]

In my case I hope for a recovery for my unbalanced/leaking psyche. I can only hope for the moment but I'm glad Jordan is back on his feets

[@kronfle111]

Hello everyone, just a note. I am from Ecuador (South America), The war was between Honduras and El Salvador (Central America).

[@OldBillOverHill]

I've been working on this old house for 5 years. I'm aiming to complete the refurbishment so the wife and I can have a more comfortable lifestyle.

[@kforest2745]

opposite of competitive - authentic “Who looks outside, dreams (selfish); who looks inside, awakens (free)” -CJ

[@Knight766]

Our cooperative nature is stronger

[@victoriali9020]

Dr. Peterson is so unbelievably articulate

[@archivedaccount2049]

Entering my final year of school in 2021. I need to finish this era right, to earn my freedom and go on to achieve greatness.

[@deanj8618]

As a species, as a society, we seem to have lost sight of the goal

[@svenboelling5251]

Yeah...to be like Noah, serve and save Nature

[@generaltech512]

It's as if it is frowned upon to keep sight of the goal.

[@svenboelling5251]

@@generaltech512 Whoever has control over what others are ashamed of has the greatest power. I just remember that Donald Trump pardoned a convicted war criminal and not only that, the criminal was also declared a war hero. Of course, with such brainwashing, all the other US soldiers are too ashamed to report further war crimes. These methods are really disgusting, but normal in leadership^^ (free Julian Assange)

[@marklechadores5574]

All sports are is a simplistic version of the competing teams, such as social groups, in a society where the target is similar. That common target is the best version of themselves, such as career, success, money, social dynamics, possessions, etc. It is the reason why social groups take post-secondary courses, buy real estate, cars, trucks, motorcycles and the like.

[@juliagamotska182]

JP is always sharp! ❤ Sports is very useful because people relese there emotions of delusion in life when there team looses and get exitement and release of endorfines when it wins. It is necessary and helpful also from this point of view.

[@farshadmn4273]

Thx prof. To tell us again to have a goal & fight 4 it not just complaining the others took it from me & others! Must provide 4 me

[@oldschoolwaverider]

I am not competitive at all, never have been nor probably ever will be, and I have little interest in sports, so this is enlightening.

[@Frosty-oj6hw]

It would be really good if the source videos from which these are clipped could be linked in the description and/or sticky comment. In case we want to see the broader context of the talk. Thanks!

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

Not everyone has a competitive nature, but he wants you to think so.

[@fab186]

Look at Peterson here vs. Peterson in his biblical series 2017. His energy and passion is erupting. He's living by his own rules and has found that state of full complete engagement with the world that he encourages people to pursue. The carnivore diet works wonders

[@oscargustaverejlander.]

I'm aiming to start my own online business in 2021, a KZbin channel and aim to move back to Australia once they open up their boarders again after a grim year back in the UK!!!! Wish me luck!

[@realitycheck4746]

People are competitive because deep down we are animals. Monsters that lie, cheat, steal, kill, and ruin each others lives. Maybe it's because I am a weak, pathetic, loser, but I don't wish to live in a world filled with meaningless evil and hatred. I don't even tolerate my own wrong actions. There is nothing you can do if you don't want to compete, but to not matter.

[@Dropthebeatonit]

which lecture was this from??

[@AnnaLVajda]

I don't have a competitive nature that is why I have no interest in sports. I have won competitions in other things but just because I was good at them not because I cared. I actually dislike being made to compete.

[@AnnaLVajda]

Look at Peterson for example even situations that should not be competitive are made to be just because people want to mentally spar with him. Half of the shows I have seen him on they don't want an intelligent debate or conversation they just invite him on to twist his words and insult him despite his extensive education life experience bestselling books he's made to constantly be trying to prove himself to people not interested in his perspective or even interested in learning what a tremendous waste of energy imo. Maybe he enjoys being degraded like that but I certainly don't. Other people telling me who I am or what I think or how I feel? That's absurd.

[@jonathanz.9675]

Interesting

[@Mebzy]

You should link to the full video in the description!

[@LifeTheoremTV]

My aim is have as much drip as my boy Jordan B. Peterson.

[@jacobhood5770]

2:01 if you want to watch Jordan Peterson play hockey

[@rallers3002]

I am from Sweden and I think it feels terrible to now that I have raised in a society of lies.

[@wagucu]

Hope to move to my dream apartment.

[@celebrity_rooster7488]

Look at Jordan Peterson, speaking straightforward truths that people are ignorant about, or love to act like they're false. If you wanna know why violent people finish first, take a look at this dude first.

[@JacquesBos]

How about delivering a talk on becoming a game changer?

[@nathansanrochman5018]

Only 4 dislikes? That’s awesome

[@DaveE99]

He def is a conservative , and I will give him, I at least on some level understand why they fight even though I know they are temperamentally based on big 5 patterns more closed minded.

[@villiestephanov984]

Don Kihote is not always with Sancho Pansa. Mind as well been Garry Sinise in translation for the gulags

[@billycasper3351]

Summary please? Cant see entire video for some reason.

[@tinfoilhatter]

what! [oh hey! is the dr. back yet? is he alright tho?] [hey, i was here, thinkin' of you! there ya go!]

[@youssefmikhael3044]

Jordon "hierarchy" peterson

[@crosstheworld6552]

Good historical instance of post sports chaos is the Nika riots in Constantinople.

[@avthar16]

Which talk is this clip taken from? Would love to watch the full thing!

[@dosdos19]

Is it a new videov?!

[@juanventura6752]

Is not Guatemala and Ecuador go to war over a Soccer game it was Honduras and el Salvador go to war when their team play a game in Guatemala.

[@intuitivealpha328]

i just want my needs met as a human fuckin being

[@jonnysongs]

Haha he's talking about Ibrahimovic's goal vs England

[@jasonstory527]

what lecture is this from? I have been trying to find the lecture he did where he went from having an aim in a pragmatic lens and expanded that all the way to to the thing we have to show that we have something to hold against the imposition of our own mortality.

[@AnnaLVajda]

People are playing their own little games and expect you to be interested in playing too. First example I guess was in public school and I was good at volleyball so I was told I had to join the schools team and go on a field trip to compete with other schools and I said no I don't want to I would rather just stay and go to class instead but they said I had to so I went and whenever the ball came over the net near me I moved out of the way on purpose and let it hit the floor and the other kids were angry but hey they didn't care that I didn't want to go so I didn't care that they wanted to win. I don't like being manipulated EVER. They tried to tell me it's fun I get a day off school etc. but the point is I don't like it and thought it was bad enough I had to play in gym now you want to make me miss class and have a bunch of extra homework too how rude. If I sign up for something that's one thing but forcing me is another.

[@skyazrael5487]

Spoiler alert... JP doesn't like Hockey.😃

[@tinfoilhatter]

wait: what have the postmodernists got wrong, one more time? come back, sir, wait!

[@Woodside235]

Everything.

[@Woodside235]

@The Meddling Muddler *finger guns* ayyye

[@Woodside235]

@The Meddling Muddler Don't forget, if there's no unifying goal then there's practically no reason to cooperate with others. Hyper-subjectivity is narcissistic.

[@davidjimenez2623]

Everything except for the fact that there can be an infinite amount of interpretations about the world, but even their interpretation of what that means is wrong yeah basically everything

[@tinfoilhatter]

@The Meddling Muddler my moral relatives are fun, but the immoral ones are easier to hang with, if more dangerous, haha!

[@M4R53L]

aiming to enter a university and to study engineering , so i have to get in the preparatory program a minimum 10/11 grade !

[@finnradoy1742]

good luck man

[@M4R53L]

@@finnradoy1742 thanks man , i’m putting a lot of effort so i need luck too

[@aiman1562]

Is this channel officially run by JP?

[@vlvtrvlvr5613]

so youre saying that human has to and must to be a part of a group no matter what in order to be safe and grow complying with the set of the game, WHY??? WHY I CANT JUST BE ME WITHOUT DEPENDING A LOT FROM SOCIETY AND SOMETIMES STUPID IDEAS AND BELIEFS

[@angrytedtalks]

I could never see the attraction of spectating team sports. Playing in a team game can be fun, healthy and develop social bonding etc, but watching other people do it? Just empathising with emptiness; watching one group fail and another group triumph in a completely meaningless pursuit. Is golf a sport? Technically it is just you against terrain. Snooker can be slightly strategic, but otherwise just you against balls on a table. If it is a mental allegory for goal setting and development of skills, why watch other people do it in a trivial or meaningless fashion?

[@breadenkilmid4544]

Name checks out

[@davyroger3773]

Im surprised Jordan didn't make the connection between our evolutionary will to survive. It comes in two forms , to kill prey, and to kill off competitors to said prey. An example of killing prey is obviously hunting with arrows which we did a hell of a lot in pre & early history. A great example of the latter are Lion prides. When young male lions are kicked out of their pride by there fathers they are forced to fend for themselves, but they cant just hunt anywhere , otherwise they'll have to fight with the ruling local pride. Here's where the sport comes in, there aim or target is to first assert dominance and kill off the dominant lion, then enjoy the spoils of the land. What comes next can be looked at as small scale warfare for lions with the aim of claiming hunting territory. This game is zero sum, and the losing lions , if they run away in time, are forced into starvation. Our history is not much different , early tribes and civilizations fought to the death for hegemony of lands rich with resources or over political & cultural disputes. Since we are a cooperative species our competition is not as zero sum as the lions but to win was to survive, many cultures have been completely eradicated after being sacked, Thebes is a good example. Society has evolved, but the instincts remain. And since our society cannot function with such violence rampant within it, we abstract this urge to compete and survive into sports. I observed a youth team playing soccer on a small dose of LSD not too long ago, It was apparent that the set up was simulated warfare. You have to groups who show their loyalties by uniform, you may know a few others from the other team vaguely, but your bond is with those on your team, leading you to loose sympathy for their setbacks. You have to strategize to exploit the weakness of your enemy with your strengths and mislead them whenever you get the chance. Lastly it's not just in sports , our will to compete is present in most parts of life, school, business, politics, arguments, social status etc. We're still spearing down prey, but now your spear is a resume, or sales pitch and the prey a higher salary. The rules are still the same, just a larger and more complex game. So in many respects, the will to win is the same as the will to live

[@jacobhood5770]

1300 likes, 3 dislikes. Telling.

[@eeeeee9953]

Why does the background look like anarcho capitalism???

[@mypublicchannel3884]

100,000+ new infections, ten days in a row, the worst point in the worst pandemic of the past 100 years, and our fearless, compassionate leader - the man you worship, glorify, and follow - has NOTHING to say, and worse, DOES NOTHING ABOUT our deady situation. You need to put your credibility on the line, son, and talk for a full hour about what makes this man so great in your mind. Do you have the integrity to do this? The honesty? The candor? Of course not.

[@TheTkrum]

Happiness is an illusion, a chasing of the wind. Being content is a mindset, a lifestyle. Humans are competitive because they fear excellence. We don’t want to compete, but rather vanquish the competition. By fearing excellence, we are wired to cheat to win by any means necessary. We acknowledge the superior opponent and want to take them out, take them down, removing them from the competition. It’s why athletes take steroids for a “competitive edge.” Its to ensure victory against their opponent. It’s also why they killed Jesus. They feared excellence. It’s only human nature to vanquish the competition. Same reason why Cain killed Abel. Same reason why the devil tricked man into eating the forbidden fruit. We do whatever is necessary to be on top. It’s part of the curse of the fall. All due to Satan and his lust for power.

[@jadely77]

Maybe it isn't necessarily a fear of excellence, but a fear of what we perceive as excellence of others being greater than that of our own. The essence of hate seems to be a root of fear, which helps to explain why haters are they who Have Anger Towards Everyone Reaching Success

[@KenLeonard]

It’s certainly not what Peterson is saying. Nor what I believe.

[@TheTkrum]

Ken Leonard Jordan Peterson also denies Jesus - which is likely why you identify with him? Just a haunch

[@coreythomas3633]

​@@TheTkrum how can you fear excellence.

[@TheTkrum]

@@coreythomas3633 a prime example of fear of excellence is with a boss and a talented subordinate. The boss fears the subordinate will come for his job, so he fires him first chance he gets. Mediocrity doesn’t only run rampant in corporate America, it’s encouraged. The Pharisee’s couldn’t compete with Jesus, and they couldn’t control Him either. So their goal was to take Him out by any means necessary. They feared His excellence, couldn’t compete, so they tried to remove Him altogether. That is the fear of excellence. How many overweight people won’t start their diet? Why is that? What are they afraid of? They are afraid that if/when they succeed they won’t have a crutch to lean on, complain about, seek sympathy (aka attention.) I’ve heard overweight people say they want to lose weight to be healthy but they don’t want to lose weight bc they don’t want to be anorexic 🤦‍♂️ How many men won’t stop drinking when they know that is the single thing holding them back from living their greatest life? Fear of excellence. People won’t quit their job to take a chance on being self employed bc of the fear of excellence. That’s the enemy (devil) telling you that you aren’t good enough. The devil is a liar. The devil is angry with us bc we were given a chance to reconcile with God by believing in His son Jesus. The devil was never awarded that chance, that opportunity, so he is hell bent on taking us out before we can commit our lives to Christ. The devil uses the fear of excellence to keep people from pursuing their dreams, accomplishing their goals, and hitting their mark. Pretty effective too, considering the devil has convinced your beloved Jordan Peterson that if he commits his life to Christ he will lose all of his followers. As that might be true, I’d rather follow the One and be followed by none, than be followed by a million to be judged by the One. Jordan Peterson’s followers won’t punch his ticket to Heaven, only Jesus can. And Jordan Peterson flat out denies the deity of Jesus. “He won’t be put into that box” he says. He will not be labeled as a “Christian.” Matthew 10:32 and Matthew 10:33 for those in the back

[@thefrank446]

But my radical left God told me I'm the exact same as everyone else, if individuality is non-existent, why compete?

[@codemonkeyslikeme]

Sounds like peterson is defending selfishness and ego ;)

[@luiscazares4465]

We need strong individuals to form a good team, a good society.

[@KenLeonard]

A strong society needs people who are capable of both generosity and selfishness as needed. Also without ego, you cannot function in the world so yeah, ego please. Everything within balance.

[@mypublicchannel3884]

God is a beach ball at a rock concert. There is a large crowd focused entirely on keeping the ball in the air - on never letting it touch the ground - because if it touches the ground, the game is over, the focus is lost, and the beach ball deflates. Keeping the ball in the air. Keeping all eyes trained on it makes it real, makes it credible, makes it believable, makes it relevant. If everyone on the planet could somehow forget about the concept (god) and if all traces of it were to be purged from our past, I wonder if it would ever emerge again, given our present level of evolution. Could something totally made up, unprovable, unknowable, and sensationally laden with powers and attributes, ever gain traction going forward? Or would the mandate, "prove it" finally take over the pole position and never allow such universal apostasy to arise again? Jordan is a theist. A theist has a non-functioning brain. A brain that is unable to discern fantasy from reality - existence from non-existence. The reason everyone lauds this man and considers him so erudite and relevant is because he never shuts up. He has endless reams of things to say about everything. The first sign of a complete fraud. Go ahead, Jordan. Tell everyone what god is. Detail it out that everyone on the planet will shake their heads in agreement that A. It exists, and B. Exactly what it is that all might agree. And if it exists beyond this dimension, show us your special secret glasses that allow you and only you to see beyond this dimension. Go ahead, Jordan.

[@Torbu6286]

You can not choose to be a monkey, "because it's nature" my ass

[@SleepGoodyall]

😂😂😂

[@jackemmanuel9424]

Learn Hindi

[@daisys3006]

Why?

[@jackemmanuel9424]

So I can impress people, it is really difficult, i am going to win and maybe travel to India. Maybe I can find a girl that's into it, but I will definitely get fluency. That takes about three years or so, so I will take my time and be my own fair judge of progress, I can better understand the language that way. The trick is to be less of an intellectual bore and make it exciting

[@munirshemsu6994]

1 dislike to 1000 likes, if zer r prophets i mean...

[@ExistentialWill]

He’s shoveling more un-researched judgement about postmodernists

[@777KingAce]

I've noticed that as well! Do you have some sources that would help me better understand the postmodernist perspective from a more objective stance?

[@crunkdwscrew]

I didn’t quite understand what he said in the last 2 minutes, english is not my first language. Can someone clarify a little? What if what I am aiming for doesn’t fit with society’s expectation? If I am aiming to become a musician for example. Also I didn’t completely understand the answer to the title of the video.

[@davyroger3773]

Society not only expects to produce artists but rewards them heavily if they are brilliant, so i wouldn't say being a musician doesn't fit societal expectations, maybe these expectations are more local , perhaps an ethnic group? Family or friends? What he said at the end was that its terrible to do what you think society expects of you i.e go to school, church , don't steal, vote etc and are somehow punished for or by these actions. Which i suppose would lead to bewilderment and disillusionment

[@nikolasimeonov]

My aim is to better the communication with my wife, daughter and eventually others :)

[@denguyen617]

Had I verbally articulated myself at the level of 2/10 Jordan Peterson, I would've been incalculably rich.

[@franciscosamayoa2183]

It was Honduras and El Salvador the ones that went to war.

[@stepanium]

We admire someone hitting a physycal target because it signals to us that humans, which we are, are capable of hitting a metaphorical target: a goal. We try to protect our culture to protect the match between our skills and the need our society has in our skill, in us. This match makes the world predictable and predictable makes it safe. In order for hitting of a target to mean something we need to agree on what is important: rules of the game/society. Some rules are stupid, so we need creative people to update them.

[@lucacolombarini5959]

i agree and also there could be a biological element to it, maybe we admire someone hitting the target so much because throwing something accurately and with force is what distinguishes us humans from most animals and the way through which we were able to feed ourselves and survive in the wild thousands of years ago. So that could be one of the reasons we are attracted to people that can throw accurately and with force, but of course that's just one element of it.

[@stepanium]

@@lucacolombarini5959 Right!

[@timangar9771]

For anyone interested in the "war between ecuador and guatemala": it really was a football game which kicked off the war (pun intended), but the two parties were actually honduras and el salvador. Look up the "football war"

[@iangraham9050]

I do like Jordan, as he says many true and profound things that helps us all, but I think he is wrong in this. Having an aim and trying your best shot does not need sport to achieve it, and it's why we have this needless competative nature. Being competitive, in any aspect of life, is just another negative aspect of our Human Condition. Like any form of combat, it's not a good thing. It grows out of your ego-centricity and breeds anger, hostility and even sometimes hate toward your opponent/s. This very concept of battling to acheive something worthless, like a victory that gains you nothing, tantamounts to low self-worth if you lose and an air of arrogance if you win. Nothing good comes from this. Co-operation comes from the selfless helping of others to achieve a common goal. His final comments on having the psychological structures matching the social structures was spot on.

[@yugandharjadhav729]

My question is towards the cons of competition. Apart from increased I vs all mentality, i feel we somehow forget the others here. It's like this - If I compete / go for an interview, I may get the job. But because of my win, because of my victory everyone else there loses. Personal glory is great, but what about the failure I bring to other's lives. If my actions, my competitiveness brings failures & sadness to others, how should I look at the consequences of my actions, my victories ?

[@andrewo8356]

I’m an Aussie and when I was in Canada wearing a maple leafs t-shirt, I had 5 people approach me at the beach saying haven’t won a Stanley cup since ‘67’. So slight correction there Mr Peterson 😜

[@samjackson3700]

Watching Jordan Peterson explain sports just makes me happy

[@souvikhore]

Football war was between El Salvador and Honduras, I think.

[@glennmiles5365]

Dr. Peterson. I'm very glad to see your return to good health. I have been following your work for a couple of years now. I've read your books and watched at least fifty of your lectures on KZbin and I respect your point of view. However, today you are a high value target for a respectful criticism. I'm an anthropologist and my perspective has in the main been fed by my mentor, a colleague of yours at the U of T, Dr. Richard B. Lee, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology, who spent eight years living amongst the Dobe' Kung in Botswana, studying their social adaptations to living in close proximity with each other in small groups. He observes in "The Kung San: Men, Women, and Work in a Foraging Society." that one of their strongest responses to the question of competition vs. cooperation is how they respond to the success of their individual peer's success when hunting for food that is shared freely with all the other members of their group. This hunter gatherer principle is called, "Insulting the meat". When a member of the group, usually male, goes out hunting, and let's say, hits the bull's eye, and kills a wart hog. He will leave the kill in the bush and go back to camp where he is asked about how he did. He will characteristically answer with a reserved negative, "Oh, not too well," giving away with his tone that he was actually successful. He will be chided by his peers who will ultimately follow him back into the bush to help him retrieve the kill. They will give him a hard time about how the wart-hog is a skinny worthless carcass, but will help him nevertheless, carry it back to camp where he will be further belittled for his efforts but the hog will be boiled up and fed to the camp anyway. Dr. Lee maintains that this is a universal behaviour found in the social organization of hunter gatherers world wide and did so for 300,000 years before social pressures turned social organization upside down. Lee's work is both the product of, and the leading exponent of a wing of anthropology now dubbed "Critical Anthropology" where he was joined by Marshall Sahlins University of Michigan "Stone Age Economics", and Stanley Diamond "In Search of the Primitive" of the New School in originating the ideas that corrected the Modernist derivative view that human nature is/was a part of a lazy convenient fixed lineage history of our species. Your comments would be much appreciated. Glenn Miles, Mill Bay BC, Canada

[@IrlasYAkobi]

I really love Jordan and I have watched at least half of everything he has out online. Tho I dont follow the advice he gives. Partly because I am young but also, I cannot for the life of me understand how could moral relativism possibly be wrong. As someone who doesn't believe in god, it really doesnt make sense to me.

[@IrlasYAkobi]

Oh and crazy how Jordan has reached a kid in Senegal ( Africa) lol

[@Hereticbliss322]

@@IrlasYAkobi find out what your definition of god is. Perhaps it’s consciousness. Perhaps it’s reason. Perhaps it’s science. Then it will start to make sense. You might also seek out Peterson’s discussions with Sam Harris if you haven’t watched them. It might open some mental doors. You have an incalculable benefit in youth. Use it well, my friend.

[@IrlasYAkobi]

@@Hereticbliss322 thanks for the advice. I've watched one of Jordan's debates with Sam and I was still lost. I mean maybe I believe in god in the sense that something had to create atoms or quarks. But definitely not as something that gives us absolute moral guidelines

[@Hereticbliss322]

@@IrlasYAkobi I see. Let’s say that the Bible was written by humans as a way to encourage humans to live by morals that we already knew were right in our hearts. Does that make sense?

[@svenboelling5251]

Try my definition. . (all animals and plants, all thoughts and feelings including space and “time”) I couldn’t believe it before either, but with the years too much strange has happened and I can no longer deny the existence of anything higher. The problem is the time between cause and effect, especially because the thoughts are extremely important. If you only live in the here and now without real consciousness, then you don’t see anything. And forget the books, God is nature, or rather life itself, and if you pay attention to your thoughts then you actually have to be able to see that your environment is responding to it. Just not the way you’d like it, but the way you need it. Unfortunately, this can only be understood in retrospect, which makes it difficult if someone does not think of yesterday. And pay attention to coincidence, which is much too random to be a coincidence. Outside the Internet, of course. Because there is another power that provides for "coincidence"^^

[@indexplus]

When did he make the point or answer the question on why we have a competitive nature?

[@johnjay370]

The answer is: we are competitive so we can take aim and be in awe of great achievement. It also is the reason for stability and why we fight to protect our aims.

[@svenboelling5251]

Hey Jordan, my target is to talk with you about this topic further down, or at least be able to listen to you talk about it. I don’t think I’m going to be able to write a book, which would have been my actual goal for 2021. I wrote the comment here in another place (different Video), I just copy it. . My english is unfortunately not good enough to understand every video, and I don't have the energy left to watch everything to the end. But now I think I’ve also read from your comment that Jordan thinks a little too positively about how we deal with nature. Or worse, that he has not yet understood correctly that nature is actually the essential part of God for us. I can understand this because a high level of education always sets limits, puts the focus on humanity and especially because of his profession. In extreme cases, it is the case that someone no longer lives within nature, but only within mankind, with its laws. . But Mankind is not God... What I have seen over the years is that wherever the world has been rotated faster, blindness has spread at the same time. Loss of empathy and the ability to find oneself. And even worse, I assume that life itself (all animals and plants, all thoughts and feelings including space and “time”) is God and that we are therefore simply no longer able to listen with the current development. Antidepressants, for example, are designed to “repair” a person for a world that is pathological fast. The consequences of this one thing alone are devastating, as is Stephen Hawking’s advice to mankind to leave the planet. Which, in the final analysis, means that the planet is abandoned with man and mouse. Whatever the governments say, if they follow Hawking and not Einstein, then they will do "nothing" to save the planet. Everything is a coincidence VS God does not dice Whoever does not have empathy cannot see God in other living beings, let alone communicate. So it is that our society silences God. And I must also recall once again the symbolization of the story of Jesus. Flagellation = too much empathy and incredible pity for Life/God , risk of dying of a broken heart for days Crucifixion = the compulsion to accept the causes and effekts, the sins and the lower motives Resurrection = by endure pain until a solution has been found to be able to continue living. How to explain to psychopaths how it is, with empathy. who believe that it is a weakness, but it is they who are too weak for God.

[@WrestlingPro314]

Your English is very good though!!

[@svenboelling5251]

​@@WrestlingPro314 Good enough to filter out the errors of a translation software^^ ;) But listening and understanding is exhausting and not always possible.. And I don't use a Google translator, because too often the meaning is twisted by exactly 180 degrees, depending on whether the subject is politically critical^^

[@davyroger3773]

What is your definition of "God"?

[@svenboelling5251]

@@davyroger3773 I had already described that in my commentary. . . I assume that life itself (all animals and plants, all thoughts and feelings including space and “time”) is God.. But how this affects everyday life is now too complicated. But I can copy you a small excerpt from a discussion that shows halfway how complicated it is. . In the last few days I had tried to define God more closely, to understand. A consciousness without the ability to act, condemned to observe (if theres only dead matter) The only way to act, in the event of an asteroid impact for example, would be to influence biological life in time. While the drama is that this very living would be the acting part of God. Forced to compromise, to sacrifice something to prevent the catastrophe. War, for example, to create the appropriate opportunities through progress, and I wonder why it should not be different. Because we’re too busy with ourselves? God is too busy with himself? It’s a circus in your head. . .

[@prod.dopamine]

legendary

[@thanksfernuthin]

An American friend of his should show him the 28-3 Super Bowl between the Atlanta Falcons and the New England Patriots. As long as you're not deranged with Patriots envy it's a classic example of a team working in harmony to achieve what absolutely appeared to be impossible. With plenty of examples of peak human performance on both sides.

[@PBrofaith]

What I really want to know is why the fuck don't I have a competitive nature ? It would make life a lot better for me

[@theyeticlutch3486]

What lecture is this clip from?

[@chrisleffler2435]

A little set up is needed. I will be 50 in 2022. I have specific goals to achieve by then. So 2021 is aiming for achieving the intermediate goals. If I manage to improve faster, I have goals for 55 and will adjust to those intermediate goals. This is vague, but who really wants to know the specifics that can't ask me in person?

[@robertpatterson1905]

You totally out of this world Jordan Peterson!! I start reading you book tonight Map of meaning I all the way over here in Jamaica learning from you, are sure you are not the Gods-Angel?

[@Sobanhassan1761]

He must be talking about that insane overhead bicycle kick by Ibrahimovic. Wonder where he watched that !

[@chrisfranks4782]

I am aiming to achieve a good grade in my 'Year in Computer Science' of my degree. I aim to have a summer internship. I aim to improve my physical strength and to run a marathon. I aim to keep in regular contact with my father, our relationship has been somewhat strained for a year or so now. I aim to be a good friend, to be someone that can be counted on when my friends are feeling down. I aim to continue not drinking alcohol or consuming pornography. I aim to build a romantic relationship.

[@zhiyako4032]

What are you supposed to do when the reality you want for to happen through your actions doesn't match your perceived reality? What are you supposed to do when you've lost hope in the world, or when you don't even feel confident in your own potential? Or when everything seems just too difficult and you can't seem to grasp a meaning out of everything, one that can justify the difficulty accompanying life?

[@teok8855]

Aiming to finish university by early 2021.

[@lynnkanable7023]

I would like to hear you discuss reincarnation and alternate and parallel time dimensions