Why we left St. Thomas after 3 years - Virgin Islands living

We decided it was time to leave the US Virgin Islands. We lived in St. Thomas for 3 years but now we are moving back to Florida. We had a great time living in the USVI but we decided that island living was not for us. In this video we will tell how we came to our decision to leave St. Thomas. We had a great time there but when we looked at the pros vs the cons, we started to notice that the cons were outnumbering the pros. So here is our thought process on why we left St. Thomas.
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[@davidasiwisajames1035]

Great video and good points. I lived on St. Thomas for ten years - in the late 70s and the 90s. Left in 2001. I think you were extremely tactful in terms of some more things you could have said. I love St. Thomas, but there is a HUGE adjustment one has to make and not everyone can do that. After two stints there, I found I needed the reliability of modern infrastructure, great markets, concerts, foreign films, reliable internet and streaming services. And a lot of people born there feel the same way and live in the states. One can always visit! But I have friends born in the states who have lived there for decades and remain committed to it. I really smiled at you saying how many times can you go snorkeling or to the beach. You didn't mention the hurricanes but it sounds like you moved there after the two category five storms in 2017, so that impacted places to go, things to do and housing. I survived Hurricane Marilyn in 1995. The hurricanes are a real issue. Anyhow, I moved back to California for a reason and convinced my island-born husband to move with me. And some of things you mention were issues back in the seventies. So, there you go. It is beautiful. But like Tina Turner said as to "What's Love Got to Do With it?" One begins to question: what does blue water have to do with it? You handled your reasons and video with great tact. The reasons you stated are very important and very real. There is an old book by James MIchener titled "Don't Stop the Carnival." He lived in the USVI in the 1940s or 50s. The language in the book is dated and not at all politically correct for today's standards. But it is very good, funny and accurate as to mainlanders moving to the islands. I used to tell anyone thinking of moving there to read it.

[@How2Beach]

Ha, yea... my point wasn't to bash it. We really enjoyed our time there but we were ready to leave after 3 years. My wife misses it a little bit. But I just really don't think you get what you pay for with the extra amount it cost to live there. If you have unlimited funds and patience it could be a great place. Thanks for your great comment.

[@LK-dx2oq]

I am going to look for the book you recommended. Thank you!

[@davidasiwisajames1035]

@@LK-dx2oq Some of the language is very dated and not PC today. But for anyone who has lived in the Caribbean, it is timeless in terms of many of the challenges.

[@Stelachica4]

I red that Book 2 days ago Its fantastic I love islanders Its sun That’s take care Of all

[@terrybogart589]

Don't Stop.the Carnival.IS the VI. I used to keep a.copy and read it every few years. I lived on STX, and after many years sailing, live in PR. Much prefer everything here to the VI. People are sweet.

[@lesterbanks7292]

FYI: The cost of living in florida is going through the ceiling also. When I moved to Florida in the mid 90s, Florida was the place to be. But now it seems like the whole u.s. is moving here. And now is the time to get out of Florida. The whole state is getting to crowded.

[@GEN_X_]

Agreed. Anything Pre-Covid was a great time to be in Florida. I moved here in 2008 and it was wonderful and still LOCAL. Too many north undesirable populations here now.

[@ew374]

And sinking with unpredictable high category hurricanes 😮

[@ew374]

@@GEN_X_undesirable northie$ is correct😉👍

[@fluffytail6355]

Island time IS a thing! “Fun” as an adventure when you’re on vacation but frustrating as hell when you’re dealing with it daily.

[@How2Beach]

Especially if you are trying work. I settled in pretty well, but it just kinds of grinds on you after time.

[@bishalbk4664]

I was in Bahamas for a week last summer and the Island time was not fun.

[@How2Beach]

@@bishalbk4664 Ha! you may not be cut out for full time island living.

[@jeffknight2907]

India calls it "rubber time." It took me a while, but I got used to it.

[@BonnieRose-px7ni]

As a former resident & ER nurse on St. Croix, I completely understand!!!

[@How2Beach]

I had a friend who came to STT as a travel respiratory therapist and he said the hospital was a disaster.

[@MikeBarnacle]

How was the St Croix hospital compared to the St Thomas one?

[@mikeparkhurst8804]

Yeah the real reason. No body will say!! Gets a little too Black.

[@sandragayle7866]

I love how people are ready to leave America for whatever reason than they find themselves back here. St Thomas is home it is the US VI but a bit different. I think I would love st thomas. For me it's cool because I like being at home playing my harp. Reading poetry, Painting and doing crochet projects. Or watching batman ( Adam west) So I would love to live in st thomas. I don't go to clubs and all that nor do I drink alcohol. I Don't eat meat and I am not much for social Gatherings. So Peace and quiet is right up my alley. Here at home in Louisiana I don't go anywhere I don't even like to walk to the corner store. 🤗 island life is different. My husband was from Jamaica and when he was alive we stayed in Jamaica for a while. I am from the bayou Mamou Louisiana him being from the island we love the kick back way of life. Even my daughter is so quiet you wouldn't know she at home. For people or as my husband would say. For persons who like the party life island life can be a bit of a challenge.

[@How2Beach]

I'm not sure how Stt would compare to Jamaica as I haven't been to that island. But, I can say that life in the USVI is very different from life in Puerto Rico. Every place is different and has it's pros and cons.

[@nusuralove4407]

Agree 💯 Living that exact similar peaceful and quiet life are my goals! USVI Living ALL DAY 🏝️ 🙌🏾

[@sandragayle7866]

@@How2Beach I wouldn't compare st thomas to Jamaica they are both the caribbean but still they are very different I've been to st thomas as well.

[@GEN_X_]

Because spoiled Americans think every other country should cater to them like they do in the USA. That's why they come back.

[@ChrisDoyle2112]

Sounds to me like you moved to USVI for purely emotional and romantic reasons without using your heads. You could have researched ANY of this-cost of living, amenities, activities, nightlife, culture, housing costs, travel costs/logistics-I mean the important things any couple would do before making a major life decision. You went on vacation for three years and got bored. I said after my first cruise, “I wish we could live on this boat.” I didn’t do it, of course, but that’s how irrational your decision sounds and one of you is an educator…anyway, maybe, hopefully, your video will help others. I moved to a tropical part of Florida from the worst part of Florida and I love it. Next for me would be the Bahamas or the Keys!

[@peteh8077]

One thing pretty places and boats seem to attract are ppl with enough money and not enough sense to be a danger to themselves.

[@Jayda08]

Years ago I learned a simple lesson. "You get bored when you have no struggle". If all you do is go to a beach or snorkeling then you will get bored, even if there was concerts and international movie festivals every weekend.

[@How2Beach]

That is true in my life for sure. When things get too easy I need to shake it up. That's how we ended up in STT to begin with.

[@jesuslove8282]

When you’re empty and you don’t have purpose in life you get bored. In this life we NEED Jesus Christ without Him there’s a void in our heart that can not be filled. No beach, no money, no woman or man can fill us. Take up your Cross and Follow Him and you will have a life of complete Peace and Joy❤️🙏🤍

[@Drill_MastErrR]

Not true when u got a good group of friends

[@miyoshi3405]

Caribbean Life is much different because in the states Of course they are a variety of things to do in the state than in the Caribbean. I’m from the Virgin Islands and currently living in Lakeland Florida and been here for almost 6 years and let me tell you. Florida is getting crowded real quick and it’s just not for me. I will be moving back home in May and can’t wait. Even though it will be a change once again when it come to logistics wise when it come to getting things quickly such as Amazon, groceries etc. all the best to you but My Home will always be My Home!!!!

[@How2Beach]

Thanks for that perspective. Florida is the fasted growing state. I think a lot of people feel stuck and are scared to move and one lesson I hope they can learn from my journey is that moving is one of those decisions you can "un-do". If it doesn't work out or you find out you liked where you were, move back. Or move some where else. Some times the grass looks greener but you get over that fence and realize you had it pretty good already. Good luck on your move back to the VI.

[@miyoshi3405]

@@How2Beach Agreed and thank you !!

[@osimeon00]

Be open to moving back. Living in the states spoils you to conveniences you never thought you needed.

[@Blue57RagTop]

Hahaha good. Don't come back. They moved here right after a major hurricane and during covid...and asking where the concerts and nice homes are. I'm also going to say…these issues raised are underpinned by not developing true local relationships. Many Americans move down and their "village" consists of other Americans that moved down a few months earlier.

[@eleven_bravo6861]

It shows you guys are just like all other Americans. Addicted to unlimited everything. Islands are limited. Makes sense you bailed out

[@How2Beach]

That is interesting that this what you got from the video. Because I said one of the best parts of living on the island was not having access to unlimited everything and learning to live with less was refreshing. That is what we came to love about the island. The problem was that having less cost twice as much as having everything. We left because we could save money by living on the beach in Florida. That is why we left. We are trying hard to resist the capitalist temptations that come with living here. But we found that more of a minimalist lifestyle fits us. Where do you live?

[@C1K450]

I consider myself a laid back person. America and the places I’ve lived isn’t so laid back anymore and I hate the “hustle culture” that it has over here racing your way up the corporate rat race and being pressured into a career you don’t want to do. I just want a chill job, living on a chill plot of land , and hanging around chill people. So my options was either Europe or if you what to save more money and be close to home, the USVI.

[@How2Beach]

I totally agree. Where I live in FL is pretty chill, but the islands were very chill. It has a great vibe there, if you can afford it. I'm looking at Europe too. It is a lot more expensive than the US. The draw back is all of the rules over there. But if you don't live in a city and you get out in the country I think it will be ok. We are researching going there for a year to try it out. So stay tuned for that.

[@mshopey32]

Same...I am looking for a low key, laid back place to live

[@freshsox7052]

Me too man😢

[@kenihow]

You went to an ISLAND expecting mainland entertainment. SMFH.

[@How2Beach]

That's not what I said. But, thanks for watching.

[@kenihow]

@@How2Beach semantics

[@nusuralove4407]

I was wondering the same thing… 🤔 Island VS Mainland (Also depends on where in mainland) is known to obviously be drastically different… I guess you have to live/experience somethings first hand to truly decide/ know 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@aliciahoose1095]

That’s exactly what you said lol. My suggestion is do your research before you move next time. You guys give advice to people? Yikes.

[@ms.thomas5758]

Born and raised and it never gets boring. Its a lifestyle. Still here not going anywhere. Thanks for coming more room for us natives.

[@How2Beach]

Have you ever lived anywhere else? I'm 50 and I've never spent more than 8 years in a location. Just wondering if you've ever tried anywhere else out?

[@ms.thomas5758]

@How2Beach I'm happy here have no reason to. My heart is right here and so are my roots. You haven't reached there yet and still search. I've just been lucky to be where I need to from the start .

[@How2Beach]

@@ms.thomas5758 Good for you. I'm not really look for a "there", just enjoying the journey.

[@jeffknight2907]

I love your comment, and I love the tropics. Gimme a grass shack!

[@spiderthedancer4155]

​@@ms.thomas5758I want come and live there but need more info can u help me out please

[@MarvinFitzgerald-gk1ft]

why do you try to dictate what she says. every time she speaks you have to say how you feel and give her a nod head to what you feel. did anyone else see that.

[@Walleye5469]

Did notice how he talks over and interrupts her constantly.

[@angusm9419]

Maybe she's not as easily offended as you are, Karen.

[@chestfarter4207]

​@@angusm9419 I don't think you know what a Karen actually is, pointing something out is not being a Karen, your comment seems politically motivated 😂 go outside and talk to people you goober.

[@jefftanasse6958]

In every couple...theres the talker ..and the more quiet one..if it works for them..leave it alone..

[@taylorevans1199]

Nah he's rude lmao are people so sensitive these days that we're not allow to identify bad habits people have?

[@gonefishing3644]

I lived in Hawaii for more than 20 years. Much of what you say are drawbacks to living in the USVI are the same for Hawaii. I suspect these drawbacks are also the same for living on any island in a highly desirable tourist area. If you live in the Caribbean and not near a major airport and expect to travel freely to other islands or far away continents, you need to own an ocean-going boat or a float plane and have the right set of skills to operate that boat or plane and enough funds to buy fuel for it. Or you need to have enough discretionary funds to charter a boat or private plane so someone with transport you when and where you want to go. Otherwise, expect to have to change to various modes of time-consuming commercial transport to get anywhere more than 100 miles away. Yes, it costs a lot more to maintain your standard of living, including preferred housing, in a highly desirable, far away, small, tourist location compared to a less desirable tourist or non-tourist location on heavily populated, sprawling mainland. The larger the number of people competing for an inadequate amount of anything, the higher the prices will go. And yes, your grocery shopping and other shopping will cost a lot more if the goods are transported a long distance by airplane or ship from a major port instead cheaply by truck or railway from a nearby city. People who live in the Alaskan bush know this only too well. If it is not grown, raised or caught locally, it will likely cost a lot more on a tropical island than it would on the mainland of a large country in a densely populated location. And yes, local stores on a small island will have a very limited selection of clothing and other consumer goods because of lack of warehouse space and the added cost of transporting goods. Merchants will not be willing to gamble that they might get stuck with unsold goods when they are already paying high prices for electricity and rent of commercial space. It is not just tropical islands, where the locals have a "manana" attitude or live on "island time." If you want to do business with people who hustle and bustle, choose to live in NYC or LA. Do not expect an urgent and time sensitive approach to getting tasks done in the rural hinterlands or on a tropical island. When the fish are running or it is time to harvest tropical fruit or festival time, many locals will probably not show up for scheduled work. Ditto for hunting season in Alaska. There is a small pool of skilled labor on a small island -- and those workers can pick a choose which jobs they agree to do. If you are unpleasant, they do not have to work for you. That is just human nature -- if the impatient newcomer fires you, there will always be another newcomer who will hire you manana. If you are an impatient employer, expect to have to do a lot of tasks yourself or do without. In a small community, word of your behavior will get around and you will develop the reputation for either being pleasant or unpleasant to work with. If you pay poorly, word will get out. If you are generous and pleasant, word will get out. If you are moving to a small tropical island for reasons other staying put, enjoying the free or low-cost outdoor activities, engaging in home-based hobbies (gardening, cooking, arts and crafts...) and making friends with and socializing with the locals, then you will probably become disenchanted with living on a tropical island after a year or two. Anyone with a "mainland attitude" can enjoy a Caribbean vacation, but if they want to live on a small island full-time, they will have to develop an "island attitude" if they want to be content.

[@How2Beach]

Yep, it's all true. My brother lived in Hawaii for I while and I spent some time out there with him. And I lived in a remote location in Montana for 12 years. Opening week of hunting season is holiday for sure. You have to weigh the pros and cons of anywhere you live. I'm always confused when I hear people complain about where they live. You can always move.

[@idahoskook]

Bingo!

[@TruthInspector]

Hawaii can't be compared to the çarribean bc just the overall vibe in Hawaii is far more spectacular, and the culture surpasses any carribean island

[@jonesn64]

You don't go to the Caribbean looking for entertainment, concerts and plays You make your own fun. The BVI'S are a short trip away. It's island time nobody is in a hurry to help your.

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

That’s exactly why we bought there….there are so many years of adventure…with so many islands. We love USVI and BVI.

[@cruciancruzangirl05]

Thank you. They want to come to islands and expect the same pace, cost of living, etc., as in the states. I told this to another youtuber living in St. Thomas that we don't have time to baby them because people are too busy and when we have down time, we have down time. I used to spend so much time growing up just sitting in a plum or guava tree or under a cocnut tree relaxing doing nothing. It's as if they always have to be entertained.

[@rv-jn7wn]

Yankee go home!!!!!

[@2011blueman]

Caribbean islands are best for just visiting or if you're wealthy then 2nd homes rather than living.

[@How2Beach]

That's why we bought a house in Puerto Rico. It's a lot more affordable.

[@1freethinker]

Exactly..!

[@fletcher373]

Ofcourse all Carribean island are the same right? Certain types of people should just stay away from certain countries.

[@2011blueman]

@@fletcher373 No one said they are the same. Don't try to put words into other peoples mouths.

[@georgiagonzales3769]

I lived there between 1974 &2007. I called it sacrifice for paradise. Good and bad times. Very expensive. But left a lot of special friends. Finally left when I was a victim of a home invasion. A horrible nightmare. Just couldn't stay any longer. Oh yes housing is outrageous and difficult to find. Health care is terrible. Pretty much agree with everything you experienced. Thanks for the video.

[@How2Beach]

Thanks for commenting. I like hearing other people experiences too. You got to spend a lot of time on the island and make a lot of good memories.

[@walterhartman3275]

first of all, that was before Covid. I find cheaper ways to live and get by but I also have the VA behind me and their benefits. Home invasions happen everywhere vastly, and much moreso in the United States mainland. You should have learned from your experience and how to prevent it and moved on. I am finding reasonable housing. Health care? Stay away from doctors and hospitals if you want to live a long, healthy life. Try qigong and tai chi and meditation for healing and wellness as a foundation.

[@ChrisRasch]

@@walterhartman3275 Home invasions are certainly not more common on the US mainland. USVI has one of the highest violent crime rates in the world.

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

To bad you didn’t find something you liked. We just bought an estate on Water island…we do have a large deck area and incredible view…so we are lucky. The insurance is crazy…25k a year but it is 6000sq ft. We definitely love Water Island but island life can be complicated. We don’t need to work while we are there…so that makes things easier. We have definitely enjoyed your videos…you taught us a few things.

[@How2Beach]

That's great. Thanks for watching. I hope you love it out there. My wife was teacher and she had a student that lived on WI and it sounded like such a pain to get that poor kid to school everyday. It's a great spot though.

[@sraj9420]

Love Water Island. Been going there for 10 years now a month at a time, so I would probably recognize you. It’s our home away from home. Started when it was just Joes beach bar in a trailer on the beach. I will admit it has changed over the years since travel magazines started pointing it out as a quick stop for tourists on cruise ships.

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

@@sraj9420 we are here now. Our place is on the Sprat Bay end of the island.

[@sraj9420]

@@BlackSkyentertainment yep I know sprat bay. We always stay with Ray and Cherrie (don’t want to give their last name for obvious reasons) but I’m pretty sure you know who I’m talking about. We just left there. We just make the annual st Patrick’s day fest every year. Look forward to maybe seeing you next year for our annual month stay

[@lisaln3987]

$25k insurance a year??? Whoa,

[@Caribbean_King]

I don't need all of the convenient creature comforts most people are looking for. I've lived on STX for 3 months, I understood the assignment. Island life clicks for a select few. I do like the format of having rentals in the states but it's all in how you do it to keep the frustration low. Those few factors will determine how island life works for anyone considering that move. Interesting perspective but I will definitely move to the USVI and work my plan accordingly. I've experienced both and I can't see myself living 100% in the states. It's an 80-20 split for me. 🇻🇮🌞🌴

[@How2Beach]

That's great. I didn't really spend much time on STX. I hope it works out for you. You should check out my other channel where I talk about owning rentals and traveling and retiring early. It's called TheRetirementality

[@aliciahoose1095]

, I live on XCX and one move back to the states for anything in the world. Nor would I live on STT. It’s all about choice.

[@aliciahoose1095]

Sorry STX 😊

[@claudeleto324]

I'm with you

[@Caribbean_King]

@@How2Beach Will do. I love real estate!! 🏘️🇻🇮🌴🌞

[@Blackmamba_yellowfit]

12:55 as a Virgin Islands native, this is true. It makes us stronger! 💪🏼

[@ralphholiman7401]

The federal agency I worked at, couldn't keep anyone in the Virgin Island's offices. I remember seeing the first advertisement for a position there, when I had only been on a few months. I asked my older partner I had been assigned with, who was sitting next to me, how much seniority you had to have to get that slot. He said, "If you want it, I can make a phone call and the orders will be cut tomorrow. But, there is a reason I can do that and it's not a good one." The turnover in that office was off the charts. Just like you guys, after two or three years, people were begging to leave paradise. The old, "It's a nice place to visit, but, you really don't want to live there."

[@How2Beach]

Yea, it's not like they show in the brochure. It was a fun adventure though.

[@janierlarcheveaux3057]

Which agency?

[@doyama847]

@@janierlarcheveaux3057 right? Bc I’m on usajobs and I’m not seeing any usvi posts

[@schonique]

Why not just move to St. Croix?

[@How2Beach]

My wife had a job in STT and I didn't spend a lot of time in STX but I didn't get a good vibe when I was there.

[@aliciahoose1095]

Exactly lol

[@aliciahoose1095]

Are you serious! What was the issue with STX? I think ypu made a great choice by moving back.. clearly island life isn’t for ya.

[@SBAtmost]

Craving, desiring, wanting more, is the root cause of suffering, generally speaking for us as humanity. To live on island we need to adapt to simplicity, ingenuity and requires a certain skill set. It’s not for all. So, would recommend an informative video, like this for anyone contemplating life on paradise.

[@How2Beach]

Thanks. One thing I've realized in life that is a very important lesson to learn... Where ever you go... there you are. You can't change your life without changing yourself.

[@jeffknight2907]

I lived in Asia for ten years and got by very well on a low budget. I love third world countries and think I could find a grass hut to live in for next to nothing.

[@valve6642]

🙏

[@junebaptiste8659]

Get to love your own company@

[@robertneblett4477]

I lived in Puerto Rico for 2 years. Given the lackadaisical attitude of all government services for which (very high) taxes are paid it’s completely understandable why more Puerto Ricans choose to live in the mainland US. Think about how bad the service is at DMV or county clerks office in any US city and then multiply that by 10. I actually knew dozens of people that had New York or Florida drivers licenses and would actually fly back to the states to renew as opposed to dealing with the PR bureaucracy.

[@How2Beach]

I have a house in Puerto Rico, it isn't even as bad as St. Thomas. But, PR is frustrating too.

[@geedaddy45]

When I went to St. Thomas, I went for the sand, sun, and the water. I didn’t go there to see a movie or a play.

[@How2Beach]

Living somewhere and going on vacation are two very different things.

[@mspinc5964]

A couple of things you failed to mention. Dates you were there? Where in St. Thomas did you rent? Where in Florida do you live? Why did you move in the first place? What do you do professionally? Did you meet other Floridians or other people to do things with? Did you get involved with the community? Did you volunteer? What about starting a business where you engage the locals or tourist? Why not come back to Florida like every six month recharge? We currently live in Pensacola and we are looking at getting a condo with a balcony as stay six months at a time as we work from home so not a problem. We feel the best way on moving to any new city is to immediately get acclimated and start to meet people and seek out what other locals do.

[@talleman1]

No one watching this is crying for them.

[@How2Beach]

Ha, I hope not.

[@aliciahoose1095]

Not at all lol. Go back to Florida.. no comparison to here

[@tomwesley978]

I dont think there goal was to make anyone cry…they were giving their perspective and experience of life on the island for people considering moving there. Dont be so miserable talleman..appreciate you guys sharing your experience on the island

[@destinationawaken]

Would you mind sharing which resort building you rented from? I would like to see if it's a good fit to find a rental at, because I'm currently looking on Zillow and not seeing a lot. Thank you so much!

[@How2Beach]

We lived in Crystal Cove. They have a pretty limited supply of long term rental on the island because everyone wants to do vacation rentals. We paid $2500 for a 2 bedroom unit with views of the parking lot. And after we moved out they raised the price to $3000 a month, and that was two years ago.

[@CliffordBustria]

VI was probably a 3 yr journey but it was meant to be 2❤years. Go where you're treated best.

[@How2Beach]

That's right. I'm not a big fan of that channel, but that is a great tag line.

[@jaldeborgh]

Honestly I don’t understand why you moved to St. Thomas. It’s sounds like you have a real estate business in Florida (and I guess PR as well) but you chose to live somewhere else. Not a criticism just not surprising your business suffered. Also, having a lower standard of living while on St. Thomas should have been a huge red flag, lowering your standard of living is always difficult, particularly if it’s not required. Anyway, it sounds like you’re happy to be back in Florida and ultimately that’s what matters.

[@How2Beach]

Yep, everything you said is correct. We left because sometimes when life is too easy you feel like your just standing still. We were doing great but we felt like our life was stuck. We needed to shake things up. I couldn't know that the biggest real estate boon was about to hit FL and I could have crushed it. And my wife was feeling a little burned out at her job. But, we had a great adventure and I'm glad we did it. We are going to head down to Mexico in a couple of weeks to check out things down there. So stay tuned for more adventures. I think that we forget that on our quest through life to make money and invest and save for a retirement that we are supposed to have fun along the way too. I have another KZbin channel where I talk about the money side of our lives if you're interested in that aspect.

[@jeffknight2907]

Sounds like you're ready for some adventure. I've spent a lot of my life traveling with little money and it's the only way to live, as far as I am concerned. Drop the extra baggage.

[@winsomeg1124]

Wow Interesting! You left where I plan to relocate to from NYC. I 've visted St John & St Thimas TWICE ❤ both, prefer St Thomas. Hope I'm not making a mistake. I should be fine there bc I'm originally from Jamaica. I just have to GET OUT of NYC before I go mad. When I first moved here, I loved it, it was different. Now, I cant stand it, so I gotta go. FAST. My mind is made up.

[@How2Beach]

You will have fun. Just be sure you have a good idea of what housing cost first. That is the most expensive thing. If you are good with the that, the rest will be fine.

[@mblydenvlogs]

Sad to see you guys leave. We’ve had a slew of power outages this past week. It’s frustrating. We’re in 2023 and experience more power outages than some “3rd world countries”. 😢

[@How2Beach]

We just spent a couple of weeks in Mexico and and the power went out twice but only lasted for 10 seconds each time. Where ever we go in the world now, we compare the power the grid to STT and we haven't found anywhere worse. You do have a pretty island though. We miss it.

[@scampishfoxx3138]

I lived on St Thomas as well, my brothers and I left StThomas years ago but my older brother returned from Miami, I returned for a few months. for relief visit from NY and your correct, it gets old very quickly…. Too hot, too small.. food was too expensive. The only thing I liked about it was living on a private property filled with loads of flowers and a beach/ open sea as my backyard and when it rains or small hurricane season, I slept like a baby and got up to fresh air and organic produce in his garden, but that too soon became boring.

[@How2Beach]

Yea, I think you summed it up very well.

[@cruciancruzangirl05]

You are from NY and say the VI is too expensive.? I currently live in NY and the food prices match the VI.

[@GEN_X_]

You were surprised that the homes were smaller and more expensive in the Virgin Islands? LOL

[@rafalwyszkowski70]

Excellent comments. COL 30% premium over FL. STT is grossly overcrowded especially during the winter. Cruise ships can increase daytime population by 20%. Traffic is horrendous. STX seems much more laid back and also cheaper. WAPA surges fried most of my appliances this summer. Plan on new appliances every 4-5 years. New washer and dishwasher ordered from FL has been enroute for 6 weeks. Local Home Depot is always short on appliances. Living here can exercise your patience for sure. Positives are lovely beaches and boating is great. Views are awesome if you leave at elevation and constant breeze makes the tropics quite pleasant.

[@How2Beach]

Yep, all true. I bought appliance surge protectors for my appliances at my house in Puerto Rico. Also put them on the split ac units. That will help.

[@aliciahoose1095]

STX is the place to live. STT no so much.

[@Jeff-x9t9w]

I lived and worked in Yacht Haven back when I was 1 of many chefs who opened it 2005. Fun times but the Drugs and Violence was a bit too much so I left 2008. I still miss everyone and the beaches 🤙

[@BiiirdMusic]

I absolutely hate living in St. Thomas. I'm gone as soon as I can be. People are rude, reckless, and apathetic. Food quality is garbage, service from companies sucks, roads are garbage, everything too expensive, everything rusts, and being at the mercy of the tourist economy isnt easy. I live here but locals who don't know me treat me like a tourist straight off the boat. Government is corrupt, many people have backwards and ignorant worldviews, and it seems like people always looking for a way to scam or play you. There's some good things going here, but the bad far outweighs the good for me. I don't regret living here, but I'm glad I did so I know exactly what I DONT want in the future.

[@claudeleto324]

Easy to see with every word just how unhappy you are. Time to go to where you are treated best and you are happier. Don't let anyone hold you back.

[@WestCoastCultured]

I felt the rudeness asap the one time I went 😂

[@tonycalitri8310]

Managing real estate from a distant location is tough enough. When Ian hit SW Florida finding a repair person was almost impossible. Older lanais were partially or totally destroyed. Roofs on taller buildings that were exposed to the Northwest wind at 150 MPH were missing hip tiles when the storm was over. You made the right decision.

[@How2Beach]

Yea, we had hurricane Michael come through PCB right before we left. It took a lot of work to get things back to "normal" after it came through there.

[@jess97724]

I have no desire to move to Florida way too hot & muggy for me oh & alligators I hate those things thought about moving to the keys but they have Crocs there so maybe I'll just stay where I'm at. Also been to Puerto Rico before & it was nice but I don't think I'd want to move there.

[@snugglebabiesnursery1471]

It's a beautiful place and when you visit you surely want to live there. I hear the people are so sweet and amazing and truly that was my experience but there are a lot of things you have to think about.

[@How2Beach]

Those are all true, but living there full time is definitely a different experience.

[@michaelbrown7028]

Well since they moved back to the mainland things on the island have improved 100% in fact we are going to a farewell bon voyage party tonight 🎉🧨🎉🌮🎆🥘🥭🥰🌯🌮🎉🎉

[@How2Beach]

Nice emoji work.

[@andreatackorecunard539]

Thank you for this video. As you pointed out, a lot of your points represent “first world problems” but when you’re trying to make a decision to move, these issues matter, if for no other reason than just accepting what is different before you get there - especially the PITA stuff…

[@How2Beach]

For sure. And a lot of people make fun me in the comments section for not researching more, but the truth is Google doesn't tell you most of those little things.

[@Igniteyourownpotential]

I lived on St Thomas as well. Island life isn’t for everyone. It will spit you up and chew you out easily if you move with a self entitled attitude, expect stateside life and rules, or bad vices. It also lets you know when it’s time to leave and move on. And we leave with love in our hearts ❤

[@How2Beach]

Yep. no regrets for my time spent there. It was a great adventure.

[@erictabet2249]

You went to the wrong island. I live on St. Croix and there are always things going on. Island living is not for everyone. You have to give up a lot but what you get back more than makes up for it. It sounds like you didn't do your research before you lept. Good luck in your future endeavors.

[@Raja08thirty]

Were headed to St Thoms for a second time then to Tampa to finish Vacation. moving to Tampa next year. Love Florida. Where are you guys at?

[@How2Beach]

We're in Panama City Beach.

[@lindagammons2841]

I think it would take to joy out of going to a beautiful tropical island if you moved to one, because it becomes the new normal, I’m going for a week this late summer, I can’t wait to visit all the beaches in Saint John and saint Thomas! I don’t want to lose that feeling for those islands! Love that place, but I will just stick with ole East Texas, then when I’m able to go somewhere in the Caribbean it’s more like adventure!

[@How2Beach]

There is some truth to that, but it is also fun thinking "this island is my home".

[@MrCrucianculture]

You didn’t mentioned trying to come to St. Croix , totally different vibe. We have a great night life.

[@Zhore340]

deh man don’t sef lie to these man b let them stay tourist dawg 😂

[@ArrozConPollllo]

I miss the "good morning" and "good night." I don't miss WAPA. I dont miss not being able to drive my car up my driveway when it rained lol. They told me 6 months and laughed at me, but i stayed 5 years and only left because i was on a work trip to the States when Irma amd Maria hit, and STT was wiped out and i couldnt come home. Ended up transferring my job stateside, but i regretted it. St. Thomas forced me to grow, and i am forever indebted to the Island and her ways for making me a better person.

[@rain9416]

HELLO THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO INFORMATION I'M A YOUNG ACTIVITY SENIOR 😅 AND WAS THINKING ABOUT RETIRING IN ST THOMAS WOW I THANK YOU 🙏 YOU SAVE ME FROM A GREAT MONEY AND MISERABLE MISTAKE 👍🏽 WHAT CITY / TOWN IN FLORIDA WOULD BE CLOSE TO ISLAND LIKE WEATHER FOR ARTHRITIS / ASTHMATIC & THAT'S NEAR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DUE TO NO LONGER DRIVING ! ANY IDEAS WOULD HELP 🙏

[@How2Beach]

I guess the farther south you go the closer you'll get to Caribbean weather. I'm in Panama City Beach. It is in the Panhandle so it does get cold here in the winter. We have about 2 months of winter here. Some people think it's nice to have a little change in the weather. So that is something for you to think about. But, this area is one of the most affordable beach towns in FL. And this area has the prettiest sand and water. If you go on the East coast of FL the sand is not as white and the water is not as clear. You can go to south FL but it is more expensive. You can check out my other KZbin channel called "Panama City Beach Real Estate Channel".

[@captainbirch]

I get it. It can be frustrating living here. But for me finding my dream job and the beauty of these islands compared to Florida, outweighs everything you just said. 12 years here and going strong ! I will say, if I ever got really sick I would definitely head back to the states. Healthcare here is a challenge.

[@How2Beach]

That's great. It is a fun place to be. I had a friend who was a travel nurse there for a while and he said, don't go to that hospital.

[@BlackSkyentertainment]

I think the island you are on helps….it doesn’t have the “beyond thunder dome” feel of the mainland. It’s got that perfect amount of visitors. Florida is definitely getting crazy.

[@jeffknight2907]

Well said! I love the tropics and third world countries.

[@kymania.c.915]

Yeah I’m a St. Thomian, born and raised. My aunt moved Florida because she has an auto immune disorder and couldn’t be treated at home

[@walterhartman3275]

If you want to live a long, healthy life, stay far, far away from doctors and hospitals.

[@hughmaxwell8143]

Shhhh. St. Croix is perfect as it is without more wealthy retirees filling up the east end.

[@deannaholt2851]

Thanks so much for making this video. With all of the shows on HGTV like "Bargain Beach Hunters" - - it paints such a beautiful picture of just getting away from it all and moving to a tropical paradise. Loved hearing the OTHER side and reality of what it's actually like. So thanks again (because honestly, even though I've been looking, I can't afford - or even find - that perfect little one bedroom beach cottage anyway and it was frustrating me. lol)

[@flakeypuff9462]

Please don't get a house there

[@WarenMoore]

THE POTHOLES THO😂😅😂😅 YOU GOT US WITH THAT 😂😅😂😅 IT SOUNDS SOOOO SINCERE COMING FROM SOMEONE WITH NO BIAS... The government has a lot to work on. But moving anywhere where resources are imported will be more costly. LIFE IN PARADISE AIN'T CHEAP!! FROM A CRUCIAN WITH LOVE.

[@How2Beach]

Thanks man. When I lived there I'd make honest videos but no one believed me because I was also a realtor. Now that I'm gone they trust me more. 🤣😅

[@BA-bf4fr]

tldr: do your research before just moving to an island 😅

[@How2Beach]

Google doesn't really tell you what it's really like living somewhere.

[@dennishancock1789]

St. Croix is better. I lived there for many years. I was never a big fan of STT. I left STX a few years ago only because of my work situation. But me and my wife still miss it terribly. People move to the Caribbean with pie-in-the-sky thinking and soon realize that the reality of living there is not the same as the states. Things we take for granted in the states are luxuries in the islands. It is not for everyone. Many of the new arrivals I met while living there lasted from 6 months to 2 years. Not many stayed long term. On that note, I think I need to plan a trip down there for me and my wife. It has been a while.......

[@tetyanahayes6321]

The life on the island have changed after Irma and Maria. Many issues with mismanagement of federal financing is now coming to the surface. Many good points about lack of better and easier ways to do things ( including interconnectivity with other Caribbean islands) should have been taken to the review by our tourist department and other agencies. However, we just went through another storm and each time it’s a kick back and a challenge to rebuild. Unfortunately, due to the climate change this will be happening more and more often and island infrastructure will continue suffering. Too many issues getting swapped under the rug 😢

[@How2Beach]

Yea, we bought a house in Puerto Rico and it's the same thing there. We also have houses in Florida and we are planning to sell a couple of houses to buy ones that are not in hurricane zones. It is stressful.

[@leadreviewer3257]

Just for perspective after 12 months of returning to Fl please note how many concerts and plays you went too during that year back

[@How2Beach]

Sure, Since I've been back to Florida they have had about 3 concerts, an Iron Man, a Marathon, a Christmas concert, a car show, and bike week. I live in Panama City Beach. Those are all of the free events put on by the city, not to mention live music in many bars most nights of the week. I have a lot of problems with this city's leadership, but entertainment is one thing they do right.

[@leadreviewer3257]

@@How2Beach I'm sure that in PR they had a few as well just as in other locations.. Sounds awesome but we're talking about an end of yr wrap up of the ones You Visited.. You brought it up so I gave you the follow up. See I enjoy both as well and I do visit them but Its not something I question when moving as you did, now if I where to be a part of the cast on a once in a while basis then yes I would consider that factor when moving but not so much as a viewer on a 5 plays 2 or 3 concerts a yr basis (I know there are some that don't miss 1)

[@mtp715]

Oh please

[@Blackmamba_yellowfit]

12:55 as a Virgin Islands native, this is true. It makes us stronger! 💪🏼

[@mshellyboo59]

I liked it better when we was a little unknown Island in the Caribbean..hardly anyone knew about😢😢😢😢

[@crod6431]

Did you ever consider moving to St. Croix? It's bigger and less crowded.

[@samus33529]

I'm looking to buy a condo on St. Croix and live there during the winter months, then come back to my place in the States during the summer months. Does St. Croix have the same power outages as St. Thomas? Honestly, the power outages are my biggest concerns. I am an IT guy and work from home. So I would need consistent power and internet service.

[@WildLifeWale]

Same power issues. You will need a generator and starlink

[@erictabet2249]

Yes power outages are an issue. Get solar or a generator. Starlink would be helpful. WAPA sucks.

[@terrybogart589]

Same.sh*t,.different island!

[@glennsowells1241]

I feel you had way to much of your life still on the mainland. Not to mention the lack of research regarding your living expenses. I totally understand the need for space and a condo would surely turn me off. But if you had the choice to live pretty much where you wanted, I believe your story would be different. But thanks. But not much info on changing my mind about a possible move to st croix. But I'm taking it all in. Thanks for your insight

[@FincaBelleVue]

Sounds like Puerto Rico is the place to go!

[@How2Beach]

Yea, PR is great. I'll be back down there soon.

[@2011blueman]

Definitely not. Entire generations of Puerto Ricans have moved to the US for a reason.

[@C1K450]

Not really, if your retiring or already wealthy then yes it is. There’s a reason why 100,000 of Puerto Rican citizens left the island in the span of 10 years. But good luck moving there, don’t complain when the red flags starts printing in the first couple of months living there, you got to adjust.

[@rv-jn7wn]

You were on the wrong Island !!!! St Thomas and St John is a tourist trap !!!!You should move to St Croix that's what's where it's at. I'm been here for 5 yrs plus.

[@How2Beach]

I only went to STX once. I should have spent more time there.

[@aliciahoose1095]

Curious.. did you not do any research before you moved? Let me guess you either went on vacation there once or moved sight unseen … island life is not for everyone.

[@How2Beach]

We moved there sight unseen. We did some research but google can't tell you what your day to day life is going to be like.

[@WilliamEnclosure]

This is the opposite of gentrification… I love it.

[@flakeypuff9462]

Please please please please leave the Caribbean alone. There are European islands

[@kingmusa397]

How can the locals/vendors afford to live in places that costs 300k?

[@How2Beach]

Prices weren't so bad 5, 10 years ago. So if they bought something a long time they would be better off.

[@aliciahoose1095]

They live within their means. They shop at Kmart for underwear. That comment should have been your first clue. The USVI is not for them.

[@junebaptiste8659]

Most locals own lands and homes outright ,having generational realestate inheritance. This is overwhelmingly the same in the neighboring British Virgin Islands. . Dual citizens as they are,in addition own and operate real estate in t he US Virgin Islands.Florida and the US. Local fruits ,vegetables are organically grown and also imported from neighboring Caribbean Islands and sold in the markets as well as dairy, eggs, chicken beef mutton Fresh daily sea foods from the oceans of the Caribbean available daily,. It should be noted that " locals" are not identifiable by race as the majority of Blacks are immigrants from the upper Caribbean Islands ,living and gainfully employed in the US and British Virgin Islands. " Locals are readily identified by surnames ,residential location and family connections.

[@robincarter6304]

Great video. Island living is wonderful but not easy.

[@How2Beach]

That is for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@fluffytail6355]

That’s what my husband says. He’s from Jamaica. The only ones living well on the island are either expats who returned to the island to retire after living overseas or drug lords. 🤷‍♀️

[@mtp715]

​@@fluffytail6355 lies

[@belltoll1918]

I lived in St. Thomas for 14 years. I loved it and I still do. Always lived on a boat. WAPA is less of an issue when you have battery power and your engine to keep your power going. We even had a small solar panel. A stay at a dock or out on the hook, I loved it. I would be there now if I could! Jokingly we used to call it St. Trauma. Stuff happened. We used to also joke about what is blue and yellow and sleeps 6 ... a WAPA truck. But if you are more loving than hating the place and the people, you still love it, because EVERYWHERE has flaws and quirks. You are meant to be there or not. IT is not for everyone, but Florida makes me squirm at the thought of living there! Different strokes for different folks and it is true. Truthfully, I got 5 minutes into this video and quit. IT is not my experience and even if something was my experience, it just didn't matter. The only way to know if St. T is for you is by experiencing it. I have one child that was bahn' there. I think because we belonged to the boating community if feels different. You belong. But this is my experience, and my opinions. And we all know what they say about opinions ... Cheers!

[@belltoll1918]

I actually lied. We did live on a deserted island ... Inner Brass for about 4 or 5 months and it was pretty awesome! We did not just decide to live there, we were working for the owners, so we were not trespassing or squatting! lol. IT was amazing, and now I love to watch the show about a group of people that are left to survive on islands and cope!

[@How2Beach]

@@belltoll1918 That would be cool to live on inner brass. Cool experience. Being able to live for free on a boat or a deserted island would give you a different experience living there.

[@terrybogart589]

St. Trauma indeed

[@vigunfighter]

Life on the edge of the Empire can be challenging. Not everyone is equipped to do it.

[@How2Beach]

We adapted well. We just decided for how expensive it was, that we could get more for our money some place else.

[@AngelRivera-wp9bg]

Uhm island hopping. You need a passport and money. Let's see when unrealistic expectations meet reality.

[@How2Beach]

Exactly. I have a passport, but didn't expect it cost as much as it did and to be as difficult as it was.

[@darrelldyer7291]

I always thought it would be cool to live there but I think its just as easy to rent an Airbnb there for a few weeks at a time and then leave.

[@How2Beach]

Yea, it really depends on your budget. You can buy solar panels and a generator and get hire people to take care of the yard and pay a lot to travel.... just depends on your budget.

[@debrabrowne]

Know before you go.

[@shawn_143]

I think places like that are for people with nothing or people with everything. You go there already with success and drive you probably won't stay long

[@How2Beach]

I think that is a pretty good assessment. It's great if your 22 or 72 years old.

[@chestrockwell7306]

Remember anyone making these videos has millions or trust funds..and also other property ..these are t for normal workers

[@How2Beach]

Yea, I said I left because it was too expensive. I missed out on those trust funds.

[@joshuazippan294]

I’m a student in Canada trying to choose on if I should apply to the university of the Virgin Island I’m so sick of the weather I hate living in it but at the same time I don’t know if that is life is right for me And the school is not top-of-the-line but a huge part of me really wants to get out of the weather but I don’t know if the idle life is right for me

[@shopislandmilan]

I would skip UVI. Yes, it’s warm/hot but ideally I wouldn’t recommend.

[@flakeypuff9462]

Just remember that THE SUN IS OUT AND HOT and the area is meant for melanin and island culture. Without, chances of cancer are high. And please give back and learn the culture

[@dianarimer9054]

So things have changed from this video. Not a lot of it is true anymore. And before moving anywhere, don’t vacation there, go for a month. Research research research

[@How2Beach]

What things have changed? I'd be curious to hear.

[@dianarimer9054]

@@How2Beach some of the nightlife has indeed come back, more things to do, but it really can’t be compared to a big city night life. Also the ferries have returned and are working, easier to travel. Still a bit pricey but totally doable. That was more a Covid thing with travel restrictions. Carnival this year and last was an absolute blast. And if you want to live here, stay a bit here first. There is a housing crisis, but for those who can afford it, it is possible to find a place that meets your needs. Grocery shopping is more expensive, shipping things here takes longer and yes, multiple stores are needed. But considering it’s only a 32 sq ft island, it’s not a big trek to shop where you want.

[@hfrt29]

Everything you guys are saying definitely shows me that's not a place for me

[@hfrt29]

cant wait for heaven.just dont know where to go

[@joeo6387]

Great video! I had one question for you.. Now that you have lived in St. Thomas, and spent time in Puerto Rico/ bought a home there, which place would you rather live full time and stay for 3 or 4 years?

[@How2Beach]

The are both great. STT is more expensive has prettier beaches and more of an island vibe. PR is fun, more affordable and easier to get things done for day to day stuff. I'd say you can't go wrong either way.

[@Blackmamba_yellowfit]

PR has a lot going on. More action and less of a culture shock outside of the language barrier. You will still have a taco and a decent mall. If your down to make your own fun and live a quite life then St. Thomas. There’s a decent night life on St Thomas,. Pro tip hull bay is vibe!

[@brooklynfinest2428]

Every Island in the Caribbean chain has It's challenges and difficulty

[@How2Beach]

yea, that is true. I'm in Puerto Rico right now. Different island different challenges.

[@dunder2006]

Great explanation of what it's like to move to the Caribbean. I am in Puerto Rico and it's weird how things don't get done at government agencies like in the US. Also, the cost of organic food is craaaaazy! Awesome video...thanks!

[@Michaelxg95]

I was living in Puerto Rico for two years. I recently decided to come back to New York as of the 31st of March. Puerto Rico definitely has its downfalls. There’s so much that I can explain but it could take hours. Transportation sucks, services are slow, you go to starbucks and have to wait 15 minutes for a cup of coffee, people there do not like mainland Americans, and Puerto Ricans tend to be very racist.

[@How2Beach]

I have a house in Puerto Rico too. I'm hear now. It's been 6 months since I've been here and things have gotten more expensive.

[@walterhartman3275]

Organic food is a lie. Especially when it comes denatured as franken-foods and chemically-laden from factory farms with facticious labeling that require higher level organic farm certification. They have been changing the legal definition of the word organic for well over 20 years.

[@masterschiele4265]

Very informative. Thank you for your insight. A lot of things to consider before living on an island.

[@How2Beach]

Yea, you need to try it out before you commit. I'm glad I didn't sell my house when we left.

[@flakeypuff9462]

Please don't go

[@dolittle6781]

An informative video! Definitely can see your points. I guess it just wasn’t practical to stay there given your business ties on the mainland and of course too little variation in things to do on the island. Have always felt like wherever I go because I take myself with me that I do the same four or five things over and over no matter where I go. I tend to get bored when I travel and generally don’t travel much anymore. Can save a lot of money that way. I’m a creature of habit looks like. Thanks for sharing your experiences. They relate well to how some of us feel about managing multiple properties from afar. Life is tough for people rich enough to own several investment properties😊

[@aliciahoose1095]

Maybe you should have picked a different island. On STX there is literally something going on EVERY week. I wouldn’t choose St Thomas either. Way too crowded and commercial.

[@dally8399]

Hi enjoyed my first of your videos! I love PCB, and see you have made videos there too. Is that where you live now? Thanks PS. Tour of your home Ty

[@lesterbanks7292]

I lived in St. Thomas in the early 80s. Back then you could island hop, for cheap. The sea plane from St thomas to st croix was $20-$40. Nothing in the island is cheap anymore. Plus st thomas is a small island. And you will get island fever. And if your not born there. Living there can become boring. So i understand exactly why you got the hell out.

[@hfrt29]

I could completely understand what you're saying. That's why I will never go on a cruise again because I felt trapped.

[@KeyLargoDude]

In Miami people rent a trailer for 3K a month, in the keys any home is a million dollars; no way you can afford to live in a big house in Florida across the beach for 2500$

[@How2Beach]

I live in Panama City Beach now. You should check it out. It's pretty affordable for FL.

[@TerryB751]

I'm nearly 69 and back in the late 1970s I was on a work assignment from Florida to St. Thomas periodically. We were trying to install a phone system at the time and working a lot of overtime. About 5 weeks at a time is all I could stand because we never got a break working. I started making up reasons to return to Florida. 😁

[@entrepreneurshipgate]

I wonder what is expensive to you? For example, how much did you pay for rent? $2K, $3K, $4k? You talk about expensive traveling I see flights to San Juan for $108 round trip. Is a salary range that will make this better? $100k or more?

[@sergiuszbasak7826]

Thank you so much for your blogs about relocation and trying to live on St.Thomas. You provided a lot of valuable information. We also want to live in the Caribbean and have been looking for our island for 10 years. We have already visited about 15 islands because our situation is a bit different than yours. We have dual citizenship and US and EU passports. We are also fully retired and have money to spend from retirement plans so we don't have to work anymore. Ultimately, we wanted to move to St.Croix or Grenada, but the situation on the real estate market has been very bad lately. I could write a whole book about what it's like to live in the Caribbean, but I'd like to answer a fundamental question that you've also asked yourself many times: why do people move to the Caribbean? I have asked this question to many people in the islands. Both those who would like to work there and those who came there to retire. There were many answers, but one appeared very often. People move to the Caribbean because there are no crowds in direct contact with nature. On St. Thomas it's probably difficult to meet, but already on St. Croix many times we were alone on an empty beach and in Grenada we could walk for hours in the rainforest without meeting anyone. Will you have it in Florida?

[@How2Beach]

I haven't been to Grenada but I'd love to go. I think real estate is cheaper there. There were beaches in STT you could go and have the place to yourself for sure. I'm not going to have beaches to myself here in FL. But, your retirement funds go a lot further. My home owners insurance has tripled here over the last 3 years, but it's still half of what I would have paid in STT. We still have the house the in Puerto Rico and we will be back and forth. I'm actually contemplating moving to Spain for a few year to get the dual passport thing myself. My wife is Spanish. You'll have to keep me posted on what you do.

[@sergiuszbasak7826]

@@How2Beach Yes, houses are cheaper in Grenada, but despite the fact that there are American real estate companies operating there, the quality of services is poor. You might be interested to know that Granada offers a Citizenship for Investment (CBI) program. Just buy a property for $220K and you get a Grenada passport. Home insurance is also very expensive on the islands. I think the best option for you would be to buy a land and build a Dome house. Such a house is huragane and earthquake-proof and has no roof. You will save $10K a year on insurance alone. We met such a construction the last time we stayed in St.Croix and we met the contractor. He promised us to build such a house for $350K in half a year, but I know the island's willingness to work and realistically it would take two years and cost twice as much. I'm too old for this, but you with your business skils?We will be in St.Croix in June and July so if you want we can explore this build option together. On this island is quite a large Home Depot full of building materials. For better contact, write to: [e-mail]

[@How2Beach]

@@sergiuszbasak7826 $220K for citizenship is really low. I know other islands offer it, but it is usually higher. I'm not interested in investing in the USVI after 3 years selling real estate there I didn't really see any properties that would pencil. I can make a lot more money investing in Florida where my other properties are located. I also have a house in Puerto Rico that will start making money this year, so I'm waiting to see how it does.

[@jeffknight2907]

Yes, I don't love crowds and rainforests are awesome.

[@junebaptiste8659]

".. where worked at.." Where did you go to schoo?

[@How2Beach]

We didn't go to school...

[@destinationawaken]

What an INCREDIBLE video. Thank you so so much. Sharing the reasons like when your house was flooded, the kmart underwear, the happiness chart, also LOVE hearing about the rental income strategy, I have just subscribed to your Retirementality channel also. LOVE that you said 99 times out of 100 its go do the crazy thing so you dont regret not doing it. I appreciate hearing the pointer of keeping ur house in USA to have somewhere to go back to. AWESOME VIDEO TY

[@How2Beach]

Thank you very much. I tried to put all of the info in the video that I wished I had before I went. I've been on a bit of break from YT but am going to get back in it soon.

[@Walleye5469]

Sounds like your main issues were with your properties in the States. But it is just some people can, and some people can't.

[@Jen-u2p]

It was not a good decision you will see why in sept😮

[@How2Beach]

What am I going to see?

[@VIOHS]

It does not take 3 trips to the BMV once you read the instructions and take the documents that are needed. They are the same documents you have to take to every state DMV. There are tons of entertainment and activities maybe not what you want or like, maybe you should have created your own style of entertainment.

[@ThomasChmielewskiIII]

Curious … if you started a reliable Handyman/Small remodeling company on the island … what do you think that would look like? Enough business or does that work stay with the locals? I understand that you need to be pleasant but just trying to scout out what happens when your home has an issue.. like leaking plumbing. Is it still island time to get it repaired? Thansk in advance… Me & the wife want to give it a go the closer we get to retirement. Been to the island a fair amount so far.

[@How2Beach]

I'd say it's 50/50 if you could do it. I had a guy come to replace my stove. He took the old stove out and then I didn't hear from him for 4 days. Best bet would be to reach out to property management companies. But, I wouldn't move there "needing the income".