Why we need to fight misinformation about vaccines | Ethan Lindenberger

Ethan Lindenberger never got vaccinated as a kid. So one day, he went on Reddit and asked a simple question: "Where do I go to get vaccinated?" The post went viral, landing Lindenberger in the middle of a heated debate about vaccination and, ultimately, in front of a US Senate committee. Less than a year later, the high school senior reports back on his unexpected time in the spotlight and a new movement he's leading to fight misinformation and advocate for scientific truth.
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[@shastak846]

“Good ideas don’t avoid criticism” remember this

[@GalaxyGal-]

that's why vaccine clinical trial publications are easy to access

[@modernchampionmusic81]

@@GalaxyGal- not by a stupefied public who listen to breakfast television for guidance instead of going through the medical equivalent of legalese

[@Steel9k]

@@GalaxyGal- "that's why vaccine clinical trial publications are easy to access" And I guess this is why vaccine advocators mandate vaccinations, use violence in order to force people to take vaccines, abduct unvaccinated children, restrict civil rights. discriminate unvaccinated people and cause serious physical damage to innocents..

[@geraldmerkowitz4360]

I wasn't that comfortable talking in public when I was his age

[@ConanOG]

Some people are born to be leaders and some to follow. You are in the second group.

[@geraldmerkowitz4360]

@@ConanOG Careful not to cut yourself with that edge.

[@ConanOG]

@Br K of course, I was just joking with the guy above.

[@kuby205]

When you're not paid big money by a pharma company, surely you'll be

[@juansebastiansarmientodona8711]

@@kuby205 omg hahahaha that's what you got from this?

[@knytrydr73]

The suppression of information, regardless of its source or purpose, is never a good thing.

[@Ultimaton100]

Not always. Blatant lies meant to deceive and spread division to destabilize society should NEVER be given the same legitimacy as facts.

[@knytrydr73]

Allowing the censoring of anything you disagree with eventually leads to a cascade effect of censoring anything the government doesn't want you to know. That's fascism.

[@knytrydr73]

@lyrehc the bran man - If you think "words are violence" then you need to step back for a moment.

[@ZombyMammoth]

@lyrehc the bran man If you hate fascism why are you in favor of suppressing opinions just because you think they are dangerous.

[@ZombyMammoth]

​@@Ultimaton100 What are you afraid of, the truth coming out?

[@brunopaquin5637]

To fight misinformation we would need to ne informed by something more than the safe and effective slogan we hear a million times a day.

[@mikeb3172]

That's how you know it's a scam. "It's safe. Believe me. Trust me. Belive me. Trust me."

[@maryjnelson1470]

@Lost Hero Vaccines ALL contain toxins. Is poison really the way to health?

[@brunopaquin5637]

Actually, being stupid, in my opinion, is blindly believing an industry proven to be liars without question. If you look into the subject with critical thinking and listen to impartial investigative journalists, scientists and doctors, the risk far outweighs the benefits, which are pretty much non-existant at this point. As far as saving millions of lives, it is not "exactly" true, clean water and basic hygiene came along around the same time in history, and helped eradicate disease much more than vaccines. Also, these "stats" are based mainly on third world coutries, and do not reflect reality in America. I would not compare surgery to Vaccines, they are really really not the same. When I look at my 7-year old diaper wearing non-verbal vaccine-injured daughter, I have all the answers I need. When you live through that, and are still a fan of vaccines, you will have proven your faith to me.

[@batrachian149]

@@brunopaquin5637 [citation needed]³

[@gazza595]

@@maryjnelson1470 It's perfectly possible to have a toxic response to oxygen, are you going to stop breathing?

[@SoftwareSadhu]

When you give a whole TED talk with one hand in pocket

[@crustycrustacean5267]

What could have been in his pocket

[@arsilanurhalisa9656]

A very sweety ✋ hand 😂

[@jjchick95]

my biggest fear is public speaking. pretty sure im not the only one. this doesnt work for me, but for some ppl holding something in your hand (like a cross, rock, or anythig) it helps them get thru their speech and not be so nervous.

[@CCuppy29]

He must’ve been so incredibly nervous and I totally understand why he’d do that unconsciously

[@robwalker4548]

I don't want to know where your hands are.

[@thewellroundedmama6123]

All the information you need...is in the insert.

[@justtheletterV274]

thewell roundedmama All information you need, is at CDC

[@aadityaverma5140]

@@justtheletterV274 n

[@yasmin151190]

Best youtube comment ever

[@ohaRega]

When I was his age I stood on a lidless trash can without holding onto anything for over a minute.

[@besten70]

ok?

[@amreenaym786]

@@besten70 your reply wasn't needed lmao

[@5exylucha172]

KZbin algorithm never ceases to amaze me

[@justlookin5048]

Every time I get overly passionate,you can be sure I’m never heard in the midst of my passion by our algorithmic overlord. So you knows it bud.👍

[@2002jsawyer]

It is ironically mis-informative to NEVER have the debate of vaccination vs natural immunity.

[@GalaxyGal-]

There is no debate. Vaccination immunity carries a thousand fold fewer risks for a more consistent immunity than infection-recovery

[@2002jsawyer]

I wish you would look within and stop this "no debate nonsense". You people are so stuck on being right that you want to shut debate down. Where does that end? Vaccination immunity does not carry a thousand fold fewer risks, firstly. And, that unsubstantiated comment would not end the debate because there are hundreds of millions of people who have already been infected and do have natural immunity. The risk you speak of is behind them and you want to end debate and force them to assume the risk of an unnecessary inoculation. Also, there are sick people, people with cancer, diabetes, risky pregnancies... The risk of the shot may be greater than no shot. Stop trying to end debate and stop trying to be right all of the time.

[@notacat4138]

@@GalaxyGal- This comment aged badly.

[@Steel9k]

@@GalaxyGal- "There is no debate. Vaccination immunity carries a thousand fold fewer risks for a more consistent immunity than infection-recovery" Provaxers claim something like this, at least. But who believes anything provaxers say or even ask? :)

[@noway3577]

Ok he's so great at public speaking! Loved it!

[@marissageorge1416]

Ethan should be recognized and applauded for the work that he has done for himself surrounding self-education and vaccine information. Coming from a small town in rural Ohio myself, it can be intimidating to stand out against the beliefs of your family and of the community. Ethan put in the time and the work to educate himself about vaccine safety and efficacy, and make a conscious decision regarding his own health, despite it being controversial. He now encourages others to do their own research about controversial health-related subjects and make fact-based decisions for themselves rather than following others’ beliefs that they find online through social media. Young individuals with this mentality are desperately needed in healthcare and public policy positions. Health misinformation is a serious threat to public health. It can cause confusion, spread mistrust, harm people’s health, and undermine public health efforts. Limiting the spread of health misinformation is a moral and civic imperative that will require effort from all individuals

[@basiceducation767]

good to watch

[@davidmcdonnell2598]

Who decides what is and what isn't 'misinformation'? Why not let people make up their own mind?

[@tseriesbad6746]

Facts

[@fn0rd99]

@@tseriesbad6746 You miss the point entirely.. "consensus opinion" is whatever your media sources tell you it is, which may or may not be connected to the real world, depending on the agendas in effect at that time. The question could be rephrased as "who decides what the media purports to be the 'scientific consensus'?" If you say "the facts in reality" or "the truth" then you just don't know much about the media creation process.. what you know about that was provided to you by the media itself.

[@micsunday14]

Because stupid people tend to overestimate their intelligence

[@pomponnette82]

I am in the same situation as him; my parents always refused to get me vaccinated. This video disappointed me since I was expecting arguments, informations that could help me to know wether I want to do it or not. Not just "it's bad to tell lies to people". I wish at least he explained why it is so dangerous not to get vaccinated, with statistics or anything.

[@Tinky1rs]

I do not know your country, but seeing as your English is good you could read what the CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention) has to say about vaccines? Kurzgesagt (a science show on youtube, in English) also has videos on vaccines if you want a video explaining it more visually with statistics. If you have any specific questions on how the immune system works, just ask! I can probably help you out as a drug development student. I will state upfront that the majority of doctors and institutions see vaccines as necessary, with the CDC, NHS (UK) and WHO (World health Organisation) backing vaccination. At a certain age you can decide for yourself what you think is right to do, without your parents' interference. Some sources: www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/default.htm tkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHPOh3aml7Ohobc

[@pomponnette82]

l v str Hey thanks a lot !! I'll look out, thanks for your answer and recommandations. And yeah you're right, I'm at a point where my parents explained me why they chose not to get me vaccinated, but of course I'm both cases there are important goods and bads so it's really just about choosing which bad sides you are ready to accept in order to have the good sides. And since I'm an adult I'm gonna do it myself

[@dawn1568]

Give me a break like im supposed to believe this is a "real" conversation. Puhleeeze!!!

[@wizardatmath]

As he so shockingly admits, he never looked into it.

[@daffydj]

@@dawn1568 So what does a real conversation look like?

[@shiniquajones2812]

Look into your family history, my grandparents and great grand parents lived to be in their 90’s without vaccines. Some older people got 3-4 without any boosters and lived long lives but the current vaccine schedule is in the 60’s. Vaccines were only invented in the last century, how did humanity make it this long without them?

[@burnttoast385]

lots died vaccines are just to prevent dying that much

[@brownbored4514]

Im here because of the module..so Thank you for the answer..🤩😍

[@lancelotbaroque1485]

me too XD

[@imsocool1066]

What's the answer?

[@tanzilaleeya]

This is a great video.. n well done for not quitting.. i know how difficult it is to keep going when all u get is criticm.. on ur actual topic I've actually seen several videos saying that vaccines r bad for children and cause them harm and diseases.. i have seen n heard so much about how bad vaccines are that I wasn't sure if it was even safe to get my daughter but we chose to go with the vaccines and Alhamdulilah ( praise be to God) she is safe healthy and happy. :)

[@ihazplawe2503]

Even a child can spell better than you

[@jacobificationable]

@@ihazplawe2503 she spelled everything perfectly rly Just in a different and faster and newer typing language than you grew up with

[@durdleduc8520]

The man that took his 15 seconds of fame and actually used them to make a difference.

[@christwisted]

A boy that doesn't know very much!

[@durdleduc8520]

Christopher Robertson Go back to Facebook, mom.

[@kuby205]

Him and his mom are actors. It was a hoax paid by GSK.

[@2k_worldleague491]

He goes to my school

[@dawn1568]

Hahaha this boy was used as a tool for the pharmacetical industry . There is no level too low for big pharma!! Maybe him and Gretta should go on tour together. Because I think all of my major life decisions should be made by children.

[@dadikkedude]

Fundamental fear of death and not sharing that gets you pushed outside of the fantasy world we rolled over our eyes.

[@graveripper69]

I'm asian, I'm confused, in Layman please?

[@StarRominski]

I don't see any comment wars. I just see people talking about there being a comment war. I realize this is a controversial topic, yes, and wars would be expected, but you need to actually read the comments, and see if there is a comment war going on, before you start assuming there is one at all.

[@Sweetwildflower]

My Dad had polio, as the vaccine was being created. Vaccinations saved SO MANY lives!!

[@GauravGRocks]

I really think we need to find the worst cases of polio and all of these preventable diseases and show then to antivaxxers. I don't think they understand the true harm of these illness and even if it were true (obviously isn't though) that vaccines cause autism, that getting a vaccine would be much more beneficial.

[@Sweetwildflower]

@@GauravGRocks True. My Dad lived with a curved spine, no muscles on his lower half, spent years of his childhood in iron lungs and surgery. My Sister and I have talked about telling his story. He was a leather craftsman and worked with John Wayne on the old Westerns filmed in Southern Utah. Polio affected 2 other siblings of his. It truly is such an easy vaccination to prevent a horrific disease!! Thanks for listening.

[@GauravGRocks]

@@Sweetwildflower Wow, that's terrible! If you ever consider telling his story, just remember that you'll be saving a lot of lives. A sizeable portion antivaxxers come from a good place in mind and simply want the best for their child and are just misinformed. Data, research, and numbers won't really sway their opinion, no matter how convincing. They need real life tangible proof and you father would be a great example. Have a great day!!

[@natestater9795]

Cutter incident proves this is BS

[@theav2000]

Polio is only spread through the fecal-oral route. In the past hygiene was poor, water was untreated etc. For people living in normal hygienic environment, the vaccine is totally unnecessary

[@VaccinateYourFamily]

Amazing job Ethan. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@musicobsessed95]

This talk brings up a very interesting point- at what age should younger individuals be able to make their own medical decisions? For example, if a 13 year old knows the importance of vaccination, but has parents who from his birth were against him receiving any immunizations, should they be able to talk to the pediatrician and advocate for their own healthcare? Could state laws possibly be passed and help individuals under the age of 18 to make that decision? Especially since younger individuals are the most at risk population for condition for which there are vaccines- such as chicken pox, rubella, mumps, etc. that can potentially have negative life long health consequences.

[@Steel9k]

"if a 13 year old knows the importance of vaccination, but has parents who from his birth were against him receiving any immunizations, should they be able to talk to the pediatrician and advocate for their own healthcare?" A 13 year old is still vulnerable. Even adults are naive and believe provaxer propaganda. The parents of a child are the only ones who want the best for their kids. Everyone else can have other interests. Even pediatricians, provaxers, politicians, the world economic forum, bill gates... But only the parents want the best for their child. So who can make the decisions regarding the vaccination (dangerous invasive medical treatment) of a minor? A child is naive, has no life experience, can be fooled by provaxer propaganda. Only the parents can have the right to make these decisions. At least the parents have a chance to resist provaxers and their ideology.

[@Checkmtey]

Data resonates with me. I might be a robot.

[@1bluebugg]

Please show me the true placebo studies (using a saline or sugar concoction).

[@miguelsanchez2353]

1bluebugg Here's one: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6233005/ Just because you people don't think they exist, doesn't mean you're even remotely accurate.

[@1bluebugg]

@Random Animations there have never been any placebo studies using a straight saline solution. The "placebos" they used contained aluminum, and were not true placebo.

[@1bluebugg]

@@miguelsanchez2353 the treatment of warts. Not whether the mmr vaccine vs saline to determine whether the aluminum adjuvant in the mmr crosses the blood brain barrier and causes high fever, swelling, short circuit of synapses, emulates and replaces iron going into the brain. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202242/ I counter with this. This is not a human study, nor it a vs. Saline. What it is however, is the effects of aluminum on the whole body, through research done on animals, who unfortunately, have the same adverse effects as children whom have adverse effects from vaccines.

[@ivyrose779]

Blue North Wind So you want the aluminum studied, not the active ingredients? Edit: Well, I certainly should have done a quick Google search before responding. Apparently, aluminum makes vaccines more effective. Who knew? Lol So, now my question is what are you wanting to be studied? Are you wanting to know about the frequency and severity of side effects in vaccines with aluminum vs saline? Or, the efficacy of vaccines with aluminum vs just saline? Or, something else?

[@johncomo3515]

The answer to information you don't like is more and better information, not removal of the offending material from the public square.

[@humesspoon3176]

He sounds so much like his brother

[@cristobalnahuelpan3153]

I think this comment section is going to be a really big war between both sides.

[@alexphil9015]

Всем плевать чувак.

[@lincolnrockwell861]

Between those who want to kill other peoples kids and those who know what the CDC and tripedia are.

[@GauravGRocks]

@@lincolnrockwell861 Also people who understand what herd immunity is.

[@OOOOOOOKKKKKKK69]

No worries. The vax side will win easily in a few years.

[@nawra77]

@@OOOOOOOKKKKKKK69 ba dum tss.

[@glomman]

He uses the VSauce font, this guy knows his stuff Edit: It's called Alsina

[@GauravGRocks]

Actually the font VSauce uses is called Alsina

[@glomman]

@@GauravGRocks Thank you for the information ^^

[@GauravGRocks]

@@glomman what I meant is that VSauce uses a different font. Ethan uses the same style of white text on a black slide, but I believe the font is different.

[@glomman]

@@GauravGRocks I noticed that halfway through, I really just wanted someone to tell me how VSauce's font is called

[@GauravGRocks]

@@glomman Ah okay

[@JamesKovacic]

If you’re wondering why there are a bunch of dislikes, it’s actually because the video was unable to watch for a while after it was uploaded, not antivaxxers. People wanted to see the clip but for some reason they couldn’t, so that’s why they disliked it. I’m not making this up. I tried to watch this earlier and it didn’t work

[@fortitude120]

that sounds highly unlikely

[@hypenheimer]

Me too

[@TheMrfrodough]

@@fortitude120 it does sound unlikely but it happened to me as well.

[@rainbowofboxes8021]

yup! i gave it a thumbs down and have not watched it because I COULDN'T!!!

[@chrismofer]

youtube just up and chose to delay the playing of a video? hwy would this video be any different to any other in terms of youtube's ability to play it back?

[@bobbest1611]

didn't want to hear about him. tuned in for info on vaccines.

[@monkeylencho1875]

For what reason the amount of dislikes doesn't show?.....MMM??? Makes me wonder.

[@jamesellis5445]

Mr. Wisdom nah not a conspiracy...Haven't you heard ? YT had a bright idea a couple weeks ago to remove the count, according to them it was to protect some sensitive creators from the embarrassment of everybody knowing how crap their content is.

[@patrickoleary6973]

Cape cod has a covid outbreak, 75% of the people that got sick were fully vaccinated, so we should take the vaccine so we have more of a change of getting sick

[@kyronhellmrich]

What about when misinformation comes from the government?

[@MrMelgibstein]

Maglio Christopher & Toale, P.A. is one of the few law firms in the country reviewing and representing people with COVID-19 vaccine injury cases.

[@Ploofles]

HEY i actually know a ted talk person before i see the talk!!!

[@alejandrocabais4710]

Grade 9 student labasss

[@imsocool1066]

Yessss💅💅

[@GauravGRocks]

I'm scared for humanity looking at all the dislikes...

[@michaelcook3168]

I'm scared for humanity that people can be so gullible.

[@GauravGRocks]

@Martin Svensson I really don't think you understand what a vaccine is.

[@GauravGRocks]

@Martin Svensson Yes, you're right I wouldn't. I don't base my understanding of vaccines off companies but on worldwide agreed scientific research. I suppose you don't even know what an antibody is then?

[@michaelcook3168]

@@GauravGRocks - It seems to me we don't know anything about what you understand either. Does your interest in bookends qualify you to have a reliable opinion?

[@VincentGill3]

If you’re wondering why there are a bunch of dislikes, it’s actually because the video was unable to watch for a while after it was uploaded, not antivaxxers. People wanted to see the clip but for some reason they couldn’t, so that’s why they disliked it. I’m not making this up. I tried to watch this earlier and it didn’t work

[@ezioauditore6038]

This is aging well.

[@Midori_Hoshi]

Dying is bad. How sad that some people disagree with that.

[@dawn1568]

Vaccines kill and have been doing so all throughout history since their inception. If you value not dying then maybe you should look into how many people are killed every year from pharmaceuticals. You do know vaccines are pharmaceuticals.....right?

[@kristinalau7040]

@@dawn1568 agree

[@drstevenhassan]

Wonderful message by an ideal person. I wonder if his mother and others have changed their minds about vaccination?

[@iammovingtokorea]

Hope not!

[@spookshankaman1038]

@@iammovingtokorea are you saying that because you're antivax or because you like roasting them?

[@kristinalau7040]

Dont get the point why you wanted the vaccine so much

[@OfftoShambala]

Heavy ‘hitler youth’ style indoctrination.

[@editedfalafel2434]

To survive

[@kristinalau7040]

@@editedfalafel2434 didnt see that.

[@justtheletterV274]

OfftoShambala Shut up

[@mellasone]

Me neither, it is a sham, some one paid him to say so, for the benefit of the vaccine companies trying to convince people the obvious that vaccines are poison is not true. shame on him

[@RegstarRogstar]

i mean, i dont disagree, and you're a very pleasant young man, but those ending points can apply to both sides? this is global society's health at stake here but like, both can use personal anecdotal approach to try to convince people and be relentless about it supporting each's own percieved truth? how would you know anyway

[@brownbored4514]

Thank for the answer you answer my module...

[@micsunday14]

Facts. Get vaccinated

[@Steel9k]

@@micsunday14 "Facts. Get vaccinated" You can have my doses, or as many as you please. Just leave me alone, dont discriminate me, dont restrict my civil rights.. just leave me alone with your crap vaccines, restrictions and all with your provax bullcrap.

[@bosslax3162]

This can be a captain obvious commercial

[@bosslax3162]

@justice start SO whats a lie?

[@iammovingtokorea]

Why don't you let people make up their own minds about what is authentic and what is inauthentic.

[@Lunarfacia]

That's fine as long as people are forming their opinions on facts instead of misinformation.

[@Steel9k]

@@Lunarfacia And you call information that supports the provax agenda 'facts', and informations that disagree with the provax propaganda 'misinformation' I guess.

[@ineed8800GT]

This sure aged well

[@coopergamezz568]

It sure did... never getting that jab!

[@spookshankaman1038]

What happened?

[@ineed8800GT]

@@spookshankaman1038 Less than a year after this was released, COVID happened.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

@@ineed8800GT - But unvaccinated people died at a higher rate than the vaccinated, so it did age well.

[@10Esportes]

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[@MutedAds]

what

[@jbmetrics42]

The problem as I see it with the whole vaccination/anti-vaccination debate is that both sides aren't being entirely open and honest which is why the discussion has gone off track and not addressed the real issue regarding the resistance: Not all vaccines are equally effective. Not all vaccines are risk-free and have no life-long side effects. Not all countries have support for families having to deal with the children who do suffer life-long disabilities from side effects from vaccinations (some did, but their funds dried up or were lobbied away as required and the pharmaceutical companies were given immunity from prosecution). So the issue isn't the science (vaccines need a critical mass of people on them to prevent the spread of these diseases and many of them work extremely well most of the time). It isn't even a debate that like all medication, vaccines can cause side effects (some even life-long disabilities). The issue is we aren't holding the pharmaceutical industry accountable (if they were, they would be encouraged to improve their formulation and delivery to reduce risks and side-effects), The issue is we aren't supporting the families that have to take care of children for their entire lives with disabilities from vaccines for the very small number that do have side effects and react to the vaccines. (Note: vaccines do not cause autism, but a child with autism can already have a weakened immune system or a compromised blood-brain barrier, that makes them have an increased risk of getting either a temporary or permanent side-effect (obviously not as bad as getting the actual disease we are attempting to prevent, but nonetheless, there needs to be better support for families dealing with side effects). Both sides need to be honest. The anti-vaccination side needs to stop debating the importance of vaccinations, and the pro-vaccination side needs to be more transparent about the effectiveness, report and address the side effects, and resume the funds that were there in the 80's and 90's that were set up to help families of those that did have life long side effects from vaccinations in order to rebuild trust between the pharmaceutical industry (who wanted a quick way out of financial exposure, be guaranteed a secured revenue stream and lobbied for the change) and the general public. What we need the conversation to move toward now is how we return to what was a working system, where the pharmaceutical industry did have to pay into a fund to support those that suffered from side effects, have a government allow their health branches to report on the effectiveness of each vaccination and allow doctors to discuss the risks (like we do with all other medication and medical procedures; essentially lift the current gag order in place in many countries).

[@batrachian149]

Well this is a bunch of "both sides"ing hot horseshit.

[@jbmetrics42]

@@batrachian149 where is the "horseshit" in what was said? Can you sue the pharmaceuticals for vaccines? Was there a fund to help families that is no longer funded? Are all vaccines as effective as the polio vaccine or is there a difference in results? I would like to see your evidence beyond saying it is 'horseshit' but then again I know you won't have any evidence. Accountability and transparency are essential to get the vaccination numbers back up (short of holding people at the proverbial gunpoint which never goes well)

[@batrachian149]

@@jbmetrics42 The wildly overemphasized and uncited claims about the "dangers" of vaccines for one. Kids with autism have a weakened blood-brain barrier? What?

[@batrachian149]

@Lost Hero yeet

[@Tinky1rs]

@@jbmetrics42 I think this suing and funding is a topic for US citizens? Im quite sure a severe adverse reaction in Europe will be covered by health insurance. And I never quite understand the suing part: do you also sue a doctor when he is unable to remove all your tumours during surgery? There needs to be ample evidence of misconduct. With billions of people it is nigh-impossible to make anything efficacious and 100% safe. We probably have to settle for 99.999%

[@ZoriZM]

People were talking about comment wars so I brought my pop corn, but no wars to be found? waste of my time. I might as well watch the video at this point.

[@justtheletterV274]

Z M Me: looks at newest* Me: You know what, I give up, goodbye.

[@IvanVujica-CertifiedTrainer]

On one hand you encourage open discussions on this topic as important to have. Yes I agree with you 👏👏. But then you advocate any means necessary to silence any discussions that are contrary to your own beliefs. Hmmm, There is a word for that contradicting behavior 🤔

[@soma7891]

Traditional medicine is a legal drug company, they keep you alive enough to buy their drugs.

[@jibcot8541]

They are keeping me alive when I would be dead. Sounds good enough for me :)

[@dawn1568]

Scepticul they are deep in their drug induced coma holding out their hands, palms open, waiting for their next dose!! Totally complacent!!!

[@habaceeba]

I hope this kid knows that he is already smarter than most adults in this country. This shoudn't be the last thing we hear from Ethan Lindenberger.

[@annasommer5414]

That's because he had years of building a healthy and functioning brain before toxins where pumped into his body.

[@ohaRega]

Facebook is the grandparents' living room. Reddit is the cafe in campus.

[@susssshitpostbasin5730]

4chan is the basement

[@charlottescott7150]

I work as a GP in the UK. We have a huge rise in cases of Mumps and Measles. We are seeing men become infertile because of their parents choices and other suffer or have life changing disabilities

[@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488]

how many dead from mumps? anyone die being vaccinated?

[@charlottescott7150]

No vaccine related deaths and serious complication rate of all vaccines is about 1 in 900000. Whereas mumps causes deafness meningitis and infertility and measles causes deaths (98 in EU in 2018 mainly in those who missed out on vaccinations as children due to parental fears) disabilities including dreadful SSPE.

[@hujax]

@@charlottescott7150 and how many of those were vaccinated?

[@charlottescott7150]

Very few sadly. That's the point!

[@charlottescott7150]

I typed EU in error it is actually the figures for the European region so you are partially right! Not misinformed just typo! Why don't you Google measles deaths Europe? I don't know how to put links here. Measles UK often linked to travel in Europe but we are getting internal spread too. The point is that it was nearly eradicated in the UK before the discredited Doctor Wakefield started his baseless autism claims

[@samal7619]

Almost all depends on us

[@gumpmaster42]

Great talk. How are there 126 views and 153 dislikes?

[@gavinzurmely7998]

gumpmaster42 Anti vaxxers. They tend to do shot like that

[@GauravGRocks]

Apparently the video was unwatchable at first so people just disliked and left at first

[@wizardatmath]

Because the entire thing is premised on the assumption that his mother was misinformed. That's not a fact that he bothers to establish. By his own humble awe-shucks admission, he didn't check up if in fact it was himself who was misinformed and lied to. That's why his talk sucks: major logical flaw, and thanks to KZbin, there are more and more people who can spot bullshit when it hits our screens.

[@alanabeaumont2650]

I've been diagnosed with autism (aspergers syndrome) and people act like it is this horrible disease while most people with autism would never choose to get rip of it. It also brings things like very good eye for detail and a more logical way of thinking. That has allowed me to study forensics. Without autism I couldn't do that.

[@hahna77]

I promise you my daughter would love to have hers cured.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

@@hahna77 - She didn't get it from vaccines though. It came from her parents.

[@nicola3401]

First I would love to thank Ethan for this entertaining and empowering talk about vaccines. I commend Ethan for educating himself and advocating for himself to receive vaccines despite his mother’s concern. I think the key point that Ethan brought up was the misinformation and how healthcare workers are unable to understand where parents against vaccines are coming from. Of course, everyone wants what is best for their child, but with the endless stream of misinformation on social media, it is difficult to determine what those entails. If healthcare workers cannot understand the perspective of their patients’ families, they will struggle to educate them and maintain their trust in the healthcare field. At the root of this healthcare issue is the debate on ethics. Parents against vaccination claim that they have autonomy for themselves and their children and can decide to forgo vaccinations. In medicine in general the principle of autonomy holds true for most everything. Autonomy is defined as the right of an adult who it competent to make decisions about their own healthcare. This extends to minors as they are dependent on their parents for their healthcare decisions. So why is it that families should not be employing this right of autonomy and making their own choices. The reality is that vaccines do that side effects for certain individuals and they are unable to safety be vaccinated. Their only route to protection is through herd immunity, which is accomplished by a majority of the population being vaccinated. With the recent rise of parents against vaccines, breakthrough cases of measles and other preventable diseases have been popping up across the country and these individuals are not protected. This brings up the ethical pillar of justice which is defined as the most good for the most amount of people. While it is essential for healthcare professionals to follow these ethical pillars it is not necessarily required for the general population, but it would be better if people chose to make the right decision. Another important way to employ justice in this topic is to spread accurate information and prevent misinformation from spreading. This includes the acts that Ethan mentioned such as removing misinformation from social media sites. I really like what Ethan’s final message was in this TED talk that data doesn’t resonate with people, but people resonate with people. Sharing stories like Ethan’s will help to debunk the myths that are driving our beliefs about vaccines in the wrong direction.

[@crosstif2159]

I find it interesting that you say herd immunity is achieved when the majority of the population is vaccinated. That’s a misleading statement. Herd immunity is achieved if the majority of the population has IMMUNITY to a disease, virus, etc. And yes, sometimes, vaccines provide immunity to a certain disease. But most vaccines don’t. That’s why in 2021, the CDC changed the definition of a vaccine from “provides immunity” to “provides protection”. A vaccine is like any other drug. It has a benefit to risk ratio. It’s not the end all, be all, one dose and you’re good, safe and effective BS that MSM has been spewing for the last couple of decades. As for this video, this dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s simply instilling his own biases and opinions instead of reviewing some real data.

[@azazel166]

Karens = Dangerous things

[@a7i20ci7y]

The dislikes make me very concerned for the future of humanity.

[@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488]

only a moron would allow your child to get some ridiculous vaccination. it is stupid.

[@thepwrtank18]

@@rev.jimjonesandthekool-aid4488 did you get vaccinated?

[@HigherPlanes]

Vaccines concern me too.

[@michaelcook3168]

Do you have a science degree in something?

[@SpaceMeeri7]

@Martin Svensson Yeah, except that vaccines have been extensively researched by scientists all over the world and none of them came to the conclusion that vaccines are bad for you....

[@giedrer1671]

He's basically saying that censoring is a good thing. So narrow minded despite his good speaker skills. Btw facebook wasn't even there when his mom made a decision not to vaccinate her children. It was him who got the information off Internet (Reddit). Hope he wakes up until it's not too late.

[@Ultimaton100]

He is woke. His mother, not so much. Also, the anti-vaccine lies predate Facebook, just saying.

[@giedrer1671]

@lyrehc the bran man cencoring different ideas based on scientific evidence is how you end up in Hitler Natzi

[@ZombyMammoth]

And that's exactly what he got paid to say by CNN. Paid Actor.

[@iammovingtokorea]

Do you understand, kiddo, that people don't think the same? You do you. Science doesn't shun debate. Keep that in mind, kiddo.

[@buzz3866]

Not a scientist, telling people not to question their unscientific opinions. Generation Twitter right there.

[@teriscallon]

Great job! good stuff

[@fruehlingsbotin]

I and my kids are vaccinated, but i still believe it is wrong to get rid of anti-vaxx books and to forbid people to talk about anti-vaxx stuff. That's a very dangerous thing to do.

[@ArtArtisian]

Agreed. Fortunately, Facebook can change how much attention these conversations get without banning them, and Amazon is not yet the only source of books.

[@the_moist]

But it's also very dangerous to have promotion for a scientifically proven terrible idea open for people to fall for and harm their children as thousands of people have been.

[@fruehlingsbotin]

@@the_moist Problem is that many things that anti-vaxxers say are not scientifically proven to be wront, that's why many people believe them. Of course there are many stupid anti-vaxxers with really stupid arguments that can be debunked easily. But i've read quite a bit from reasonable anti-vaxxers and they do have a point sometimes. And i think it is important to talk about those things because it can make vaccines safer and better. And btw i am a scientist and i know very well how publishing research works and it is really not that "scientific" as many people think. I am not saying "big pharma wants to make everyone sick" or something like that, but current research is about quantity and not about quality. And sadly it's mostly about publishing and not about using the results from research and connecting the dots. It's a very complex matter.

[@fruehlingsbotin]

@lyrehc the bran man I think it is important to listen to their concerns and to do more research on vaccines. As stated in my other comments on this post. It is dangerous to exclude them from the discussion and to not let anyone say anything bad about vaccines.

[@fruehlingsbotin]

@Lost Hero what do you mean by equal status? How do they have the same status when they are just allowed to publish books or release youtube videos and the like? In fact some anti-vaxxers are scientists or medical professionals, so...?? I am not saying everything they say is right but there are some reasonable critics among them and i think they should be heard. Since many anti-vaxxers complained about aluminium in vaccines they stopped using aluminium and i think that's great. And they did more research on the effects of certain ingredients. What's wrong with that?

[@invox9490]

Better than other that went on that stage and were older than him.

[@Galloway278]

I think he's really brave to stand up for what he believes when he has had so many condemn him. Take this same tenacity, young man, and keep using your voice, even if others disagree.

[@Hardin9]

👽 No there's nothing brave he's doing, he's not going against the mainstream.

[@wizardatmath]

I think anyone who mistakes tenacity and confidence for thorough research and logical conclusions deserves the government we can see he's got to live with.

[@vagurl84]

I can’t believe he’s only 18 years. So amazing.

[@Bewefau]

you mean so naive

[@cindycarr20026]

Smart kid

[@Voltanary]

Not at all. He's been brainwashed. The total opposite of smart.

[@misterauctor7353]

@@Voltanary He wasn't been brainwashed.

[@jamesellis5445]

We need to fight misinformation in just about everything these days !!

[@fn0rd99]

which means turning off your tv

[@jesuscano6697]

All I learned from this is media malfeasance

[@JAMamation]

All the dislikes from deluded soccer moms.

[@kellyberry4173]

@@silenthills282 Thank you.

[@annasommer5414]

@@silenthills282 You don't die of measles if you have healthy food and clean water. People who die of measles in 3rd world countries could also have died of diarrhea.

[@annasommer5414]

@Random Animations I'm talking about a benign infection like measles.

[@Angelface11]

All the likes from sheep :)

[@Angelface11]

@Random Animations Those aren't diseases. Try looking up meaning of words and stop being manipulated you crying sheep.

[@YOLO-tq3el]

No idea why there are more dislikes than likes?

[@daniel7pi988]

Because more and more people are waking up, caused by Christ lifting the vail. Halleluyah

[@higashiwhy]

Daniel 7Pi if this is unironic at least spell Hallelujah right

[@m.carmenlopezcastro9545]

Because of misinformation :c

[@johnnyson7474]

Because people are stupid

[@MrAidanFrancis]

Probably because, for several hours, youtube was showing this video on the subscription page, but clicking on it showed that it wasn't actually available yet and comments were disabled.

[@tylerdavies1649]

"People resonate with people" Well that's fantastic but there will always be anecdotal stories from both sides. The data matters a lot more, so do your research and vaccinate your kids

[@GauravGRocks]

@Kurt E. Clothier Yes, that's exactly it.

[@tylerdavies1649]

​@Kurt E. Clothier That can definitely be true. My problem with 90 percent of Ted talks is that they spend a long time talking about nothing of importance. He spent 7 minutes telling us how to address the issue of vaccination politely without ever once addressing the issue itself! His wants to stop the misinformation, but failed to provide actual examples of the data or anecdotal evidence that is misinforming the public. Next time, spend 7 minutes comparing both sides of the argument, then prove with your own anecdotal stories and data to backup those stories that not vaccinating yourself or your kids is a dangerous and slippery slope for our society.

[@tylerdavies1649]

@Kurt E. Clothier thats fair, I guess I wish he would just say something a little more substantial

[@tylerdavies1649]

@Kurt E. Clothier lol ur not wrong

[@wizardatmath]

Do more research and don't.

[@safeeffective385]

- Won’t require more than one shot - Won’t require more than one booster

[@johnnyson7474]

People want to know what's with the **dislikes**? Well I am one of those people who disliked it. Why I disliked this you may ask? Because I'm an idiot.

[@davinaoins9453]

Out of interest how many dislikes were there? There actually doesn't seem to be that many. Just digging to see if they have been tampered with.

[@johnnyson7474]

Before: Likes=198 Dislikes=193 After looking back at the likes & dislikes, my faith in humanity has been restored.

[@wizardatmath]

I have to agree with your premise...

[@daverok1113]

Perhaps vaccine efficacy, injury, death should finally be addressed 83 are dead in S Korea from flu vaccines

[@daverok1113]

@Kanha the third How many had had the flu jab?>

[@daverok1113]

@Kanha the third How many of the deceased had the flu jab? What was the median age of the deceased? What other health issues, comorbidities did they have?

[@musicbizmoriarty]

@@daverok1113 thats what i wonder about cv deaths. what the median age is and what other health issues they had, seems like everybody who dies from a cv related death actually had something else they were already dying from n then test positive so jus labeled a cv death. i have many many examples, i read the cnn propaganda stories daily on cv .. mother died of birth complications, its a cv death. 96 year old gets a cold, dies of cv, 76 diabetic dies from losing the battle with diabetes and its labeled a cv death, man in motorcycle crash, yep. cv death . terminal cancer patient dies.. cv death .. and etc etc

[@daverok1113]

@@musicbizmoriarty Check Ivor Cummins, Vernon Coleman

[@daverok1113]

@@musicbizmoriarty Ps Median age of death was 84

[@mr.balloffur]

What an amazing young man!

[@GauravGRocks]

Agreed!

[@justtheletterV274]

The newest comments make me lose faith in humanity

[@CCuppy29]

Hannibal's Enemy It amazes me how many anti-vaxxers there are on this site. There’s just so many dude it’s insane

[@haroldsen4238]

CCuppy it‘s terrifying. They are everywhere and everyone who is disagreeing with them is big Pharma.

[@justtheletterV274]

Haroldsen Shut the f up anti-vaxxer

[@jeffdown994]

"fight misinformation" which means not discussing the science of vaccines. so how about holding the vaccine manufacturers accountable for vaccine injuries instead of protecting them with a different court system ? There's a good start. There's protection and oversight of our food production by the FDA it especially should be true for the vaccines or anything Injected

[@clyde__cruz]

Finally found a good ted talk

[@christwisted]

How?

[@user-vo1lj1ro3l]

After being told his entire life that getting immunized is riskier than getting the virus itself, I am really pleased by Ethan's independent decision to become immunized. He also educated himself, those around him, and others all over the world by simply asking, "Where can I get immunized?" In the field of healthcare, there is a concept known as autonomy, which simply refers to the right of a patient and fellow human being to make decisions regarding their own health or in any other situation requiring such decisions. During the peak of COVID-19, there was a constant debate about becoming vaccinated against a vaccine that, in some people's eyes, appeared to be establishing itself extremely quickly on social media, in homes, and at work. It's excellent that we all had the autonomy to choose whether or not to get immunized, but making an informed choice is also a crucial part of decision-making. Many people's opinions on the vaccine, like those of Ethan's mother, originated from social media. We may now access some extremely current and instructive information on social media. But sadly, there is a lot of false information on social media that can be quite persuasive and spread rapidly and easily. It is crucially important to get evidence-based information before making any health-related decisions. This requires some investigation on our part, but obtaining accurate and scientifically validated information can have a long-term impact on our health and the health of those we care about. I am very appreciative that Ethan decided to educate himself and let others know how crucial it is to combat vaccine misconceptions, all while being kind to his mother, who had very different views than he did on the matter.

[@ivyrose779]

“ExTrEmElY sMaLl ToWn WiTh OnLy 15000 PeOpLe.” Me thinking about growing up outside a town of 1300 people. 🤔😶

[@musicbizmoriarty]

300 people for me

[@endergeek236]

This kid is a badass.

[@dawn1568]

This kid is being used by a corrupt industry. They are exploiting him😞

[@endergeek236]

@@dawn1568 Tell me. No judgement, no anger, just tell me. Why are you against vaccines? What are your sources? I am honestly curious.

[@elathan4542]

Antivaxxers swarming in 3... 2... 1...

[@safeeffective385]

- Vaccinated people don’t carry the virus and don’t get sick (CDC Walensky) - Getting vaccinated can protect you, your family, and friends from getting seriously ill and spreading infection - Vaccines block you from getting and giving the virus

[@FrostekFerenczy]

Unvaccinated people died at a higher rate than vaccinated people throughout the entire pandemic. FACT!

[@sssp1998]

Eaannnd...

[@m135b]

What's pretty apparent is that this kid has not done his own independent research.

[@TheMrmoc7]

What's pretty apparent is that you're probably one of the imbeciles spreading misinformation and killing kids. Hope you sleep well at night.

[@rosehip5101]

@@TheMrmoc7 vaxxers can do little more than claim misinformation since the more people know about the immune system and vaccines the less likely they are to support vaccination. the modus operandi of the vaxxers is to close the conversation and keep people as ignorant as possible.

[@m135b]

@Random Animations Whenever I ask a vaxxer for proof of vaccine safety consisting of double blind placebo or saline solution studies, I never get a response. The reason? They don't exist.

[@m135b]

@Random Animations Wrong. The CDC studies and all other studies use other vaccines as the 'placebo'. They don't use inert substances like saline solution. Go ahead, show me one study that uses an inert placebo. You say they are there if you search hard enough. Therefore I'm sure that you will have no problem finding one.

[@rosehip5101]

@Random Animations maybe he just can't be bothered to be played with by another psycho vaxx pusher.

[@therealandrewlund]

Like any hotly-debated topic, we need to have more intelligent conversation. Vaccination discussion gets more ridiculous than religious discussion... When enough people oppose you, it's safe to assume that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

[@elathan4542]

Same with climate change right? Your argument is flawed, the same as saying "my ignorance is just as legitimate as your knowledge"

[@makarena8019]

Like any hotly-debated topic, we should have had a more intelligent conversation. Holocaust discussion got more ridiculous than religious discussion... When enough people oppose you, it's safe to assume that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Your argument makes no fcking sense.

[@GauravGRocks]

Bad argument.

[@therealandrewlund]

Are we so proud as to say that we would never fall for sensationalized misinformation as it pertains to our echo chambers? None of us know the whole picture, and ALL of us believe some lies. It takes a does of humility to have respectful conversation and create change.

[@rosehip5101]

the truth is probably a lot worse than anyone knows right now. don't mess with biological systems you have no clue about. it is not a f****g computer.

[@stephengaudette581]

Your Mother was trying to salvage your life. How dare u , take the stage and speak blasphemy.

[@user-cv3kg7lw7x]

ثص

[@MrMoonlight414]

A talking dummy on the lap of Pharma..

[@MrMoonlight414]

@@bespectacledperson2316 Why don't you show this to your hero sometime.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKHEn2anaMl9qrs

[@justtheletterV274]

MrMoonlight414 A BS video.

[@ihazplawe2503]

@@MrMoonlight414 wait a min, your making money by baiting people into your YT vids

[@pushkarhoni]

Kid I am a father of two kids, one of them, possibliy both damaged by vaccines. Can you explain to me why you are on Ted talk to share a pro vaccine opinion while I can never hope to be on ted talk share my story ?

[@shawnjohnson3125]

How were your kids "damage" by vaccines?

[@pushkarhoni]

@@shawnjohnson3125 Brain damage bro. Stopped speaking, stopped eating. Auto immune diseases, the list is endless. The is a huge topic bro. And now it's being censored by tech giants like google.

[@shawnjohnson3125]

@@pushkarhoni I'm very sorry to hear that! It is a huge topic but there's definitely no censoring on info regarding the negative aspects of vaccines, if anything it's the opposite. So many people who are either mentally ill or misinformed writing articles and starting blogs on conspiracy theories involving vaccines flood the internet to the point when you Google the word "vaccines" the first several pages are all negative inputs on vaccines.

[@justtheletterV274]

Ok boomer, probably a bot or a troll

[@ivyrose779]

pushkarhoni No matter what the cause, I’m sorry you and your family are having to deal with that. I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been to witness. How old was he when that happened? What evidence do you have that vaccines are what caused those changes?

[@ugurtuzun3875]

Turkish plese

[@whatwhyandwhos68]

My child was immune sensitive ....... then vaccinated. Looks like the young lad Ethan survived without being vaccinated, must have been lucky.

[@Jan_9999_]

TED revealing its true face?

[@jamesc9882]

are you making dumb sweeping statements?

[@Jan_9999_]

@@jamesc9882 What's your point? Do you even get what I mean?

[@jamesc9882]

@@Jan_9999_Not the slightest clue, just some guy talking to himself in the comments

[@Jan_9999_]

@@jamesc9882 I'll let you ponder.

[@chrismofer]

TED has always stood for science and reason. And people like you, when you don't understand something or indeed are being willfully ignorant to truth, will always think you smell a conspiracy out to get you.

[@bakkerem1967]

I don't understand why most anti-vaxxers are also anti-abortion. Anti-vaxxing : someone has the right to control what happens in their own body, even if that damages one or more innocent lives, with possible lethal consequences Anti-abortion : someone has no right to control what happens in her own body, even if that ends something that can't even be called life yet (talking about early abortions here)

[@thelegendgamer33]

Human life is not yours to control

[@hilary232]

Erik there are aborted fetal cells in vaccines, so you can’t be anti vaccine and pro abortion, nor can you be vegan with the many animal cells and blood in vaccines

[@hilary232]

Lost Hero 😂😂😂😂😂 do the research and prove me wrong, ps is that all you have name calling?

[@annasommer5414]

@Lost Hero www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf this is straight from the CDC website and if you look at the ingredients you will see "MRC-5 cellular proteins" and "MRC-5 human diploid cells" which are cell cultures that come from aborted fetuses.

[@heatherkrug9310]

Hi Erik, based on your comment I can tell you don't exactly support vaccine hesitancy and as such, your assumption that you know what most anti vaxxers would support is incorrect. The VAST majority of anyone who questions vaccine safety is definitely PRO CHOICE, PRO SCIENCE and PRO MEDICAL FREEDOM (a constitutional right) : I choose what goes into my children's bodies and what I allow to come out of mine. There are a few anti vaxxers who do take issue with the aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccine manufacture, but again, the VAST majority only worry about fetal cell lines regarding injecting foreign DNA into an infants underdeveloped immune system for safety purposes, not the social implications. (also no "TRUE" placebo controlled trials have determined if these small traces of foreign DNA are safe in the long term as it relates to the amount of diabetes, cancer, and autism, etc in the two groups. Ps. if you happen to read a study that notes a "placebo" group, please dig deeper as you will soon find out it was compared against another vaccine or the potentially unsafe adjuvant and it was unscientifically labeled as a placebo group when it fact it was not. I find this deeply disturbing and straight up negligent as it relates to the practice of scientific studies) I absolutely love being a mom with all of my being and can't imagine ever choosing to have an abortion, but that doesn't keep me from respecting another woman's right to choose whether she becomes a mother, or whether she chooses to vaccinate her kids. I think you'll find - if you look deeper - that most of the vaccine hesitant parents are absolutely pro choice in both matters. Hope this helps shed light on your previous misunderstanding. Again. MEDICAL FREEDOM. A constitutional right.

[@uslsuspect]

They brought in a high school senior? Really!?! This kid needs to go back to history class. There’s not one example in human history where censoring your people was better off everyone overall.

[@franzinalias2400]

Ako lang ba grade 9 dito? HAHAHSGSG

[@davidkimberly6194]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH!!