Why Western Governments Support Israel with Joram van Klaveren

www.islamexperience.com/

[@watiflappynounou3302]

Love these two revert brothers. May Allah protect and reward them.

[@Moonlight-777]

Ameen🤲🏻

[@CineRanter]

Always a pleasure to see Joram van Klaveren on BT. His conversion story is one for the ages

[@mabdullahmalik4943]

Love your videos brother.

[@emranba-abbad8335]

The title should have been: Why Western Governments UNCONDITIONALLY Support Israel

[@manialand]

its not western govt. supporting israel its : Israel controlling western govts..............................GET your facts straight dont spread lies

[@manialand]

your wrong on this its not that western govts. support israel its that israel controls them all

[@manialand]

your wrong on this its not that western govts. support israel its that israel controls them all

[@Hrrrrrr25847]

There is an alliance between the Talmudist and the Freemason Knight Templars. The pagans and the Pharisees. The Judeo Christian Alliance. The LGBT flag belongs to the Masonic Knight Templars and the Star of David belongs to the Talmudists.

[@xmarksthespot4916]

May Joram live in 7th heaven for willing to pickup the hot coals with his hands❤

[@willsimp1273]

Humans don’t live in the 7th heaven

[@Moonlight-777]

Ameen🤲🏻

[@maverickkhan2718]

I migrated to UK 14 years ago and I now realise that I made a mistake. I brought my skills and work ethic with me but in my work place, it is not appreciated fully and I am absolutely certain it is due to my faith and very recognisable muslim name. Its not only disappointments in the workplace why I have come to this conclusion but also the public discourse. I think muslims particularly highly skilled ones should make an effort to emigrate to the lands they came from and apply their knowledge and skills for the betterment of those societies. Its going to be slow and painful but it is the only way to bring back our glory days.

[@leilamouss7763]

You are absolutely right! It is not permissible to Muslims to live in the country where you are constantly insulted by people and media. When the angels seize the souls of those who have wronged themselves1-scolding them, “What was wrong with you?” they will reply, “We were oppressed in the land.” The angels will respond, “Was Allah’s earth not spacious enough for you to emigrate?” It is they who will have Hell as their home-what an evil destination! 4:97

[@binhilabi]

Which cpuntry you are from ?

[@Gulchih]

I moved back to Muslim lands after 9 years and three postgraduate degrees in top places in the West. Never been happier, more fulfilled. Loving the freedom to pray practically anywhere, can actually hear the beautiful adhans. And REAL social relationships, real social support, not just transactional friendships.

[@maverickkhan2718]

@@Gulchih well done you. Here is to the hope that we break the chains of slavery

[@Gulchih]

@@maverickkhan2718 ameen, may Allah grant you a life of khayr in the much-peaceful homelands

[@_Jasco]

I’m originally from Germany and I see many of these trends there too. Not so explicitly anti-Islam, because they are apparently so “tolerant”, but implicitly it is there. Anyone who just follows the basic pillars of Islam will quickly be called an Islamist.

[@gunting]

They claim to be "tolerant" but when muslim women want to wear their modest clothing, they are losing their hairs out.

[@srisubiyanti2211]

Mereka takut akan keteguhan muslim pada agamanya karena itu akan banyak mengancam "perilaku buruk mereka dalam bernegara n bermasyarakat"

[@verenatuna9010]

​@@srisubiyanti2211 😂

[@isthisshabab4561]

We need to normalize the term islamist, being an islamist is not negative rather our reaction to being called an islamist should be thank you for your compliment. Let's break their terms

[@shadowrayhaan4051]

Being tolerant in the West somehow excludes Islam 😢. They just don't tolerate us but we are rising in numbers and that's Allah's work. Russia currently have the biggest population in Europe if I am not mistaken.

[@odeebob7826]

If Islam is fought, it will intensify, but if left alone, it will expand, as Allah watches over those who repel it.

[@willsimp1273]

What are you babbling about, and why did 15 people like your nonsensical comment?

[@hassentrh2118]

@@willsimp1273 because its true islam is the fastest growing religion and if a muslim nation gets oppressed their faith strenghen like palestine

[@willsimp1273]

@@hassentrh2118 I have no problem with your comment, but with the nonsensical comment of the previous guy, who seems to suggest that Islam growth depends on what kufaar do

[@jogoshorts3849]

@@willsimp1273 yes Islam is spreading due to these Anti Islamic campaigns These campaigns arrose interest in people about Islam and when they study it they become muslim

[@justadude9110]

“Holocaust has replaced the Christ’s sacrifice and modern secular religion of Progress with israel becoming its sacred symbol has to be protected at all costs!”

[@zeemukmin]

Who's the quote from?

[@FlatEarthTruth611]

Pretty much

[@astralpowers]

Holocaustianity is the official religion of the West

[@subtitelingyou]

PAgans, BLOODSacrifices..

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

@@zeemukmin "Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ" is from Claude Lanzmann. It's indeed a Myth and a mess... Replacing previous narratives of importance.

[@boramawi]

Masha Allah. You raised a lot of concerns, but you yourself are also two stars for the hope of Islam in Europe and the West. May Allah bless you both. Salam from Toronto, 🇨🇦

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@abdurrazzak2970]

May Allah Help and Protect Palestinian Brothers and Sisters and also Bless and Reward Both of You in this Life anfd in the Hereafter.

[@dwiyantoprakosa2445]

Arabs also descdendants of Abraham through Ishmael !

[@NavM23]

😂😂😂

[@allee3476]

Good point!

[@jayaz3902]

Love you you both for the sake of Allah.

[@jepismadi1875]

Thank you Paul and Joram for your perseverance in da'awah. Allah bless both of you greatly insyaAllah

[@mohd.sufianbinhassan5623]

Now I can see a clear picture of how the Western countries look upon the Muslim world.. it solved the puzzles.. tq Paul, alhamdulillah..

[@mohd.sufianbinhassan5623]

I also would like to suggest to you to discuss the transition of the western world from hating the jews long time ago to supporting them after the world war II. They hated jews long time ago and it now seems vice versa.. why it changes now..what is the real deal behind this.. just my suggestion.. tq Paul.

[@verenatuna9010]

​​​@@mohd.sufianbinhassan5623 You guys are wondering why the Christian world, especially Germany, is officially supporting Israel after WW2? Seriously😂? Isn't it obvious? Without WW2, there would be no country named "Israel"...think about it. At the beginning of Christianity, there was basically no form of "zionism" found in it. However, Christian Zionism is increasing since ca. 1830, mainly with the beginning of a Christian denomination called "Dispensationalism". At about the same time, also "political zionism" started to arouse with Theodor Herzl... Please do some google research on your own on the terms "political zionism", "Christian zionism", "dispensationalism" and its teachings - and you will see, how both, politics and (partly) the belief systems of both, the Western (Christian) world and Israel, actually have one and the same goal...however, also some political and religious leaders of the Arab world are also involved in the "story", just in a more subtle way... After you've done your research, it's up to you, what conclusions you'll draw from all this information... Also, please consider, that the official position of a government - everywhere in the world - does not necessarily represent the major position of its people - even then, if the government claims otherwise...

[@astroflyinsights]

​@@mohd.sufianbinhassan5623they still hate them

[@nisardar2652]

@@mohd.sufianbinhassan5623Money

[@verenatuna9010]

@@astroflyinsights You are clueless.

[@xmarksthespot4916]

Wow love the guest ❤

[@sanamt4945]

Brother Paul your conversation with Brother Joram is always enlightening, thought-provoking and enjoyable. Jazakallah for another wonderful episode.

[@emadeid972]

Religious intolerance has long been ingrained in Europe's history, with numerous instances targeting Jews and Muslims. From the Spanish Inquisition to the crusades, non-Christians faced persecution and expulsion from Europe. These historical events demonstrate a recurring pattern of violence and discrimination based on religious beliefs. Tragically, little has changed in the past 800 years. Despite progress in some areas, the tendency for humans to revert to their natural inclinations persists. Today, this reality poses a significant threat to Muslims living in Western countries where they are often not safe due to their religious identity.

[@cogthusiast1150]

Europeans have never been able to deal with difference. They believe that if someone differs with them, then they're eligible to be killed.

[@verenatuna9010]

😂 Religious intolerance has always been ingrained in Islam's history as well! Hippocrates...

[@verenatuna9010]

Increasing numbers of Muslims are a significant threat for loyal, bible - believing Christians in Western European countries. You know what will happen if Christians will/would be the minority in their countries... In what way is it not safe in Western Countries for non - Christians TODAY? Explain.... It's exactly the other way around - and you know it! Are Christians really safer in e.g. an Arab country? If Muslims have problems in Western countries, then it is because they are (usually) immigrants - and definitely not because of their religion.

[@emadeid972]

@@verenatuna9010 Could you provide an example of a historical event illustrating Islamic intolerance, akin to the Spanish Inquisition or the actions of the Crusaders, or perhaps contemporary Islamophobia in the Western world? Conversely, it's notable that some of the wealthiest families in the Islamic world over the past 1400 years have been Christians and Jews.

[@shadowrayhaan4051]

​@@emadeid972 He couldnt give you an answer to save his life. He is just mindlessly picking on islam with no real truth.

[@SuryaSurya-re3vn]

My two honorable muslim brothers.. May Allah abundantly bless both of you health, success, jannah... amiienn

[@WhyOrigin-cp8vp]

Simple, they want to remain in power and islam is winning

[@willsimp1273]

What is Islam “winning” when Zionist and Hindus are openly committing genocide while recording themselves on social media

[@willsimp1273]

What is your slam winning while Zionist and Hindus are commiting genocide on tiktok

[@user-wt8zj7rd7j]

So you agree that islam is not a religion but power hungry people who travel the world to destroy those on power for themselves in the name of religion?

[@DragovianMythiX]

My point of view; 1) Israel holds a lot of economical (and thus political and media) sway in Western countries. No Western politician can criticize Israel, unless they are ready to accept career ending political suicide. This reason basically trumps and causes all other reasons. 2) Western countries benefit from no competitiveness from the Middle Eastern countries, as these countries are busy with each other or with their own internal struggles (coups, conflicts, sanctions etc.), some/many which are caused or supported by Israel through the intervention of the USA and other Western powers. Israel is basically the wild dog let loose to cause misery in the neighborhood. However, Israel benefits more, because many refugees want to go to those same Western countries (well deserved for those countries for ruining the homeland of those refugees), which causes friction in Western societies, which helps Israel push the "Islam vs Christianity/Judaism" narrative.

[@mariokart6118]

I like the “wild dog analogy”

[@sheikmuhammad3894]

Accurate.

[@catocall7323]

Western Countries are being destabilized by the mass immigration from the middle east which is largely caused by destabilizing the middle east. The only ones benefiting are the oligarchs who understand that nations limit their power. While supranational organizations like the EU and the WHO can consolidate power for them.

[@shabbir7643]

Middle East was kind of Ok and Growing, you can check pictures of Middle East of Syria, Iraq and even Afghanistan but after US entrance all are shattered and US shifted the country in the hands of Extremists thats the reason.

[@MnM_CuteCatClips]

What's up with the audio? Hmm. Now suddenly got better. Alhamdulillah.

[@user-kp8dh5wu2n]

in the begining

[@homtanks7259]

Just at the beginning

[@BloggingTheology]

sorry!

[@watiflappynounou3302]

Patience brother.

[@MnM_CuteCatClips]

@@watiflappynounou3302 Ya Allah, grant me patience, and I want it NOW! 😂😁😂

[@affanakram8490]

I love both of you for the sake of Allah 💓 ..

[@user-oh4ju5jv1x]

Watching from Uzbekistan

[@hayatraja7360]

🇵🇸 Faith , Resistance, Resilience, Perseverance

[@aalassadi3844]

The motives are racial, ideological, cultural and geopolitical.

[@FiveStarArmchairGeneral]

You forgot the most important one...religious

[@Proudme7]

Informative 👍

[@rezwanarahman4978]

"We are here", shows Joram's love for his country and concern for his people. He also understands his purpose in life and why Allah put him in the place and time he is now.

[@fiqhonomics]

Masha Allah brother Paul, how prolific you are. Salaams from. Cape Town.

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

At around 11.58 its true, Abraham AS was from the Mesopotamian tribes, he was not a Canaanite. And anyway, Ismael AS was also Abraham's son and the first born as well.

[@abdulali9835]

Hello paul, found your channel recently and have been binging your content. Profoundly thought-provoking and amazing insights. I was wondering whether you could ever consider having mohammad hijab on the channel, love to see a collaboration between you two!!

[@chaudarykamranali8480]

الحمد لله ثم الحمد لله

[@abduljada6152]

Thank you dear sir.. keep up the good work 👍🏼😁

[@RosewiththornsRWT]

Always a pleasure listening to Jpram van Kleveren! Jazakallah khair for this conversation!

[@dirkhan74]

I must appreciate both of you for the amazing work you are doing. May Allah reward you for this. The way you shatter the cultural coloured glasses is so important for paving the way for non-Muslims to understand Islam as it is, not what the traditional media shows. جزاک اللہ

[@populicorp]

The answer in a single word -- axiology. We share the same values and aesthetics and that's never going to change.

[@Callousedhands.]

I don't think it's axiology because the Talmud and Christian values do not see eye to eye. And both Christian and Muslims have more in common than zionisim or Judaism especially when Christian and Islam forbid one for giving you 1 and then charging you 5 for the item. Things look like more of skin color being disguised as faith. I hate to play the race card but I see nothing else .

[@Dani-zg7fr]

What values?

[@Callousedhands.]

@@Dani-zg7fr I think he means they share the same complexion.

[@odeebob7826]

“ never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper.” Quran 2 : 120

[@hero4963]

Joram and Paul at the same time yessss

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllah'u khairan

[@IsxaaqAcademy]

He's a good observer & insightful

[@attaurrehman3069]

great talk brother Paul may Allah bless you. Your fan from Pakistan ❤

[@martinkesson4443]

A few years ago I wasn't interested in Politics and Islam, now today it's totally different, I now care.

[@BloggingTheology]

alhamdulillah

[@abc_music4626]

And not to mention this leaked note from the prime minister Mark Rutte to his servants “government employees “ where he says ““What can we say to make it seem like Israel is not commiting war crimes “

[@affanakram8490]

اللہ اکبر کبیرا

[@Kobenoz]

Two people whom I hope to have a very long chat with, Later in Jannah...

[@allee3476]

Inshallah

[@mariokart6118]

I agree with what the brother said about Muslims being trapped between the left and right.

[@ikman3410]

What a guest you have. May Allah give both of you rewards for your effort, brothers.

[@sabdullahi5292]

alhamdullahi…pleased to hear from you both 🙏

[@erminization]

Two legends

[@onaatu3289]

Only one true reason Satan wants to...

[@eimalmohammad2858]

I love this guy for Allahs sake.

[@azch6424]

Assalam Alaykum brothers Paul and Joram. Very informative production. May Allah SWT bless you both and your initiatives.

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@ismahanhaji7700]

Masha Allah . May allah swt protect us from shaydeen

[@mohammedsahor]

You think they are united, but their hearts are divided ~ Qur’an 59:14

[@LiaPelitawati-gs4hb]

Alhamdulillah

[@Sigujang]

Interesting topics i learn so much what happening in political western

[@Upper-Moon-One]

Je suis toujours très ravi de regarder vos vidéos, surtout vous deux.... Je ne comprends pas beaucoup l'anglais donc je suis obligé de passer par l'option de la traduction automatique en langue française... Malgré tout, je ne me lasse jamais de vos vidéos... J'apprends beaucoup. C'est toujours un plaisir de vous écouter ! Bonne continuation à vous deux !

[@BloggingTheology]

Alhamdulillah

[@AdamSahr-cj4kf]

A meeting of 2 great minds, really delightful insight. Santiago Matamoros, James the Great, Apostle but murderous Moors Slayer, also Patron Saint of no less than the infamous Colonization of the Americas. Two millennia of confusion in Good Old Europe...

[@Rahmanurrahim1]

Assalamualaikum brother Paul , May Allah grant you best of this world and hereafter. Ameen.

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@saadkeani6604]

Always a pleasure to hear from brother Joram

[@aniqdc6184]

ashkenaz is not even related to ancient jewish tribe. they're european. various studies on palestinian dna proves that palestinian is genetically related to canaanites and of course they were jews before converted to christianity and Islam. askenaz is genetically central asian and european.

[@manialand]

oy vey

[@aniqdc6184]

its very ironic when askenaz ben shapiro rabbi scmhuley called bassem yousef "anti-******"

[@jackholloway1]

Untrue, Ashkenaz are a mix of ancient middle eastern, italian from the roman era, and medieval central European. They're about 50% ancient Jewish by DNA

[@aniqdc6184]

@@jackholloway1 50% where do you get that figure?😂 come on jack, its ok to be white/european you got your own culture too

[@jackholloway1]

@@aniqdc6184 I'm not Ashkenazi or any other kind of Jew, not sure why you're making that assumption. Read Razib Khan's (top geneticist) article about it called more than kin, less than kind. I'd link it but KZbin doesn't allow links sadly

[@husniolama8283]

BT, please, keep up the good work.

[@BloggingTheology]

inshaAllah

[@0786AHA]

Paul... We are getting clipping.

[@BloggingTheology]

just the first few seconds

[@0786AHA]

@@BloggingTheology thanks.. yes. I caught it.

[@eng.farahkh]

What buzzeles me is that all of the sudden everybody is religois now although we have been told that Europe had left religuois idea long time ago 🤭

[@rehmanr.8635]

They are only religious when they have to go against Muslims.

[@abdurrahimturker5479]

Love to see brother Joram on your channel! He always brings much insight and historical context into the thought process of the average right-wing Westerner as well. I was born and raised and Germany and most of the people I know are Germans. I do understand their 'general philosophy' (i.e. liberalism), but hearing about its history and what's going on behind the scenes in political parties is eye opening. JazakAllah khayran

[@hayatraja7360]

Great show , thanks 🇵🇸

[@AshK1999]

Thank you ❤

[@laylaali5977]

Excellent program

[@Emal789]

MashaaAllah very enlightening conversation...wish it was longer

[@miron6898]

Thanks Mr Paul to invite extra ordinary guests love to hire from him.Dankje

[@SoundConducta]

Assalamoalaikum Paul, Love the channel. Love the work you do. Would really like to see a video or some good sources on where the trinity doctrine came from historically. You’ve mentioned some in various videos, but would really love to see a video dedicated to that history. Jazak allahu khayrn brother

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@zubairafzal6812]

Indeed a big challenge for western Muslim and the way things are shaping up on political horizon. But I am quite hopeful with efforts of brother Joram and the likes will turn the tide in favor of Islam and humanity, it may be at “tortoise “ pace but Insha Allah truth of Islam will prevail.

[@maverickkhan2718]

Wonderfull talk. Thanks brothes, live long

[@tavipudinawahab52]

Thanks!

[@BloggingTheology]

Many thanks!

[@sarbast99]

YOU both are great.

[@quadraoq4478]

Meneer Joram 👆

[@manialand]

there is a reason they were kicked out of 109 different countries

[@user-tz3jk3qz8r]

Shukran sooo much brother Paul and Joram.Very informative.

[@icecoolmint]

"They will not fight you (together) except in fortified countries or behind walls. The hostility between them was very great. You think they are united even though their hearts are divided. That's because they are people who don't understand" (Qur'an Surah Al-Hashr: 14)

[@andrewwalker7439]

Great content as usual,thank you

[@AdrianMuslim]

Very insightful conversation. Thanks.

[@shanaazbennett4628]

This guy is super brilliant!!!

[@munawarakbar4649]

Fascinating interview.

[@N9TheNoob]

great video

[@Free_Falestine]

Masha Allah ❤❤❤

[@oerwerk]

Thank you Joram ❤️✊🏽 groeten uit Nederland

[@Farhaan_Enigmatic]

Great job 👍🏻 Masha'Allah ❤

[@asifsurti9154]

May God bless you, Joram van Klavaren, Alhamdulillah Allah gave you hidayah and you came to the straight path (Siratal Mustaqeem) I am so happy Alhamdulillah

[@murthadao]

Nice work

[@user-uv9wv7kx1s]

Thank you. I found this very interesting, especially how Islam is filling the void left by the demise of Christianity. The secular way of life has clearly led to a nihilistic nightmare for most and a thirst for the rediscovery of God, Family and Community; which is gaining momentum. A good thing indeed.

[@icecoolmint]

Greeting from Indonesia 🇮🇩

[@apap745]

I am from the netherlands and I enjoy joram on your show. I dont think we as muslims have a future here in Europe. The problem is where should we go? There are no so called islamic countries left anymore. I am originaly from morocco but even morocco is not an islamic state.

[@hamzahswaleh4330]

Salaam Br.Paul, please reach out and bring Sahil Adeem if and when possible

[@labibabdullah389]

hey Paul, can you make a video of how you read books and also provide tips for readers in how to read books properly, further more kindly state how many pages do you read per day?

[@xxxxxxxx6726]

Very informative podcast! May Allah bless both of you for your insights and knowledge! ♥️

[@REwing]

Ignorance,naivety and believing without questioning, is the problem with the public in every country. This mess will go on into the next generations!! NZ.

[@andrewwalker7439]

I’m a revert Muslim but not had the chop but it doesn’t stop my belief,it’s a quandary at 57 years old

[@i.t966]

شكرا لكم على هذا الفيديو الجميل والمفيد انتم رجال أوروبا و مستقبلها انشاء الله و فيكم الخير الكثير لأنكم تخرجون و تتكلمون في المواقع التواصل لكي يعرف الناس وهذا خير دليل والحمد الله على كل شيء

[@Fahhad007]

Mashallah

[@muhammadhasandaengsultan97]

Assalamu'alaikum

[@BloggingTheology]

wa alaikum assalam

[@muhammadhasandaengsultan97]

@@BloggingTheology 😁