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Why Wolcen in 2023 Might Surprise You

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Thyworm

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@robitusinz
@robitusinz Жыл бұрын
Picked Wolcen up during a Steam sale thanks to this video. The campaign is short, but the gameplay's generally fun. However, this town-building new game+ mode is pretty cool. I'm way more into the "Champion of Stormfall" mode than I ever was in the campaign. Anyway, this is a good recommendation, and it'd be nice if Wolcen made enough returns to keep it getting updates. The game is a pretty cool mix of Dark Souls/Bloodborne and Diablo, leaning more towards the Diablo side. You can't just spam a bunch of skills, you need to stick and move. Fun stuff, definitely worthy of a playthrough for ARPG fans.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@FrshChees91
@FrshChees91 Жыл бұрын
Didn't even know it was getting updates. I saw a ton of potential when I was playing it back when it was new. Actually enjoyed it for a little while.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
They released plenty of updates the last years, but marketed that poorly.
@Totschlagen1799
@Totschlagen1799 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the story mode when I played through it and completed it before act 4 was released, I might go back and play the 4th act.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Same for me. No idea when it will release, but should be this year
@umberbeast8345
@umberbeast8345 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to Wolcen & I'm enjoying it! Thanks for the video.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@matthuck378
@matthuck378 Жыл бұрын
I picked it up a few months ago on sale, and I'm actually enjoying it. It looks great and plays well (at least in sp) so far for me. I think the Steam reviews are skewed negative for reasons or whatever, but right now, if you like the genre, it's good. Solid B tier.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Steam reviews were right, but 2 years ago. Ppl never change their reviews. Game was bad, but these days, it is fun.
@nemure
@nemure Жыл бұрын
People is stupid af. That's why I've being playing wolcen since alpha and half of those game breaking bugs are a myth and other half aren't common either. Many are related to unusual hardware most don't use. I personally never ever had a single game breaking bug. I've being in their discord many years as well and was flooded with toxic kids. The neutral people were called white knights all the time lol Wolcen always did a solid job and was releasing a monthly bug fixing patch. Not every 6 months or a year like this video says, monthly.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I was talking content patches, not bug fixing patches.
@nemure
@nemure Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm OK, my bad
@jiunc.1604
@jiunc.1604 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm I agree with you. All the negative reviews are old, from back when the game was launced... They are not relevant anymore.
@mohtabieh9803
@mohtabieh9803 Жыл бұрын
The game is actually great now. They updated and fixed most issues. This is a great guide we need more guides on wolcen.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
thanks Moh!
@Voltomess
@Voltomess Жыл бұрын
I just read fresh reviews on steam and seems like this is still a piece of crap and one person said that game does not save as it should, he was over 2h into act 2 and when he stop and came back few hours later game did not saved at all and he had to start act 2 from the beginning and he had same issue many times until he rage quit.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I'm sure not everyone has the same experience, it is what happens.
@B4YL1FE
@B4YL1FE Жыл бұрын
@@Voltomess From what I've experienced (admittedly very small sample size), the game seems to save the campaign progress at the very beginning of quests, so if you quit near the end of a long quest, you absolutely can lose campaign progress. Character progress is different though, xp, inventory etc. gets properly saved when you quit, so I can't wrap my head around why can't they do the same with the campaign.
@Voltomess
@Voltomess Жыл бұрын
@@B4YL1FE unbelievable what a mess I wanted to get this game so bad but I guess I'll pass.
@sulemanmalik8228
@sulemanmalik8228 Жыл бұрын
I think I heard about the Wolcen a while back during covid, but forgot all about it. That said, it looks pretty awesome now, so I will check it out. Thank you.
@vnshngpnt
@vnshngpnt 4 ай бұрын
3:40 campaign is one of the strongest Wolcen pros. It's very cinematic for ARPG, has great levels and bosses, as well as it introduces game concepts gradually, you have opportunity to play with various skills more (as respeccing late game is more time consuming cause you need to tune your items too).
@Thyworm
@Thyworm 4 ай бұрын
I really like the campaign in Wolcen. You mean to say pros right? I enjoy the campaign, but for that playthrough I skipped it. I played it in a later video though
@AnomieDomine
@AnomieDomine Жыл бұрын
Got this on a discount after the drama and it's a fun arpg. Definitely worth a try if come in blind.
@caseyj789456
@caseyj789456 Жыл бұрын
This game is in hiatus for years in my steam. I am at point to wake it back again in 2023 (Waiting for 6.6.2023) . Thx for review.
@kyleschmidt6238
@kyleschmidt6238 Жыл бұрын
After being dissapointed by the D4 beta I looked through my library trying to find something to play till the next POE league and saw Wolcen, decided to load up and was very much surprised. I have not played it in quite a while and I was blown away with the level of their cinematics (granted some have bad camera angles), the creative design behind the bosses and how good the combat felt. I was instantly hooked and can't get enough of this game right now!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
It was once a disaster, but these days it is mostly a solid ARPG. The latest patch did introduce a few more bugs for me, but I'm still having fun and im grinding it out in the endgame currently.
@fast1nakus
@fast1nakus Жыл бұрын
I had quite a bit of fun with Wolcen actually. the game definitely worth its money
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
nice to hear
@Nersius
@Nersius Жыл бұрын
So happy to hear the major bugs are gone. Recent reviews are still mentioning slews of minor ones, but seems purchasable now.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I think so. I didn't experience anything that stood out, personally, but your mileage may vary there of course. As with any game, really.
@LetsPlaymaker
@LetsPlaymaker Жыл бұрын
so good to hear its bear- and playable by now, thank you
@Lol_Pig
@Lol_Pig Жыл бұрын
Its not bad. Ive had one gfx bug where (Acher) arrows and magics aren't visible. Aside from this, its been pretty fun and looks gorgeous
@eliramos1810
@eliramos1810 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I was just uninstalling games from my library and I wondered if anything had changed with this one (played for around 30 hours or so in 2021). Im definitely gonna give it another try now!
@DidoInFlames
@DidoInFlames Жыл бұрын
I stoped way back in the days since once i wanted to replay it and my hero that was maxed out was deleted somehow. I stoped then because loosing my hero for no reason is unforgivable.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Ye, the game had many issues back then. But many games have deleted characters back in the day, some of those games you might be playing right now.
@AvistoGaming
@AvistoGaming Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it doesn't really matter if the game is decent if it's unplayable. Solo, sure. But I like to play games with friends and there's been a Desync issue since day one that STILL isn't fixed. It locks the any one that joins your game to facing a certain direction. Me and a friend came back to check it out a few months ago and it was still present. So every time we moved maps one of us would be stuck, not able to attack in any other direction. Needless to say we just swapped games to another ARPG instead with no issues. Needless to say, I did enjoy the video a lot. Good stuff dude.
@johndarkhorse396
@johndarkhorse396 Жыл бұрын
This just happened to some guy and his gf on PlayStation too. He said they had to quit out and then took 4 tries to get back into co-op together. I think the only people praising this game are the solo players.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I played solo yes
@painfullyaware5221
@painfullyaware5221 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to try Wolcen. I wish I could catch it on sale. Thanks for the update. BTW, if wrist health is an issue, check out the 1 HP channel on KZbin. I use the 9 minute Wrist Warrior routine every day.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look. Wrists are okay, usually, but if I can play with a controller, I typically am.
@painfullyaware5221
@painfullyaware5221 Жыл бұрын
@@sapphiaxo 😲
@painfullyaware5221
@painfullyaware5221 Жыл бұрын
@@sapphiaxo Thanks, just got it.👍
@jiunc.1604
@jiunc.1604 Жыл бұрын
The game is on sale right now on steam! 9 euro, totally worth that price! Dont miss it.
@TheRealThodin
@TheRealThodin Жыл бұрын
On sale now on STEAM for $9.99. Gave it a try and like it so far :D
@nothing55rk
@nothing55rk 9 ай бұрын
Wolcen is a Jewel of a ARPG , It's highly innovative, beautiful and the combat is fantastic.. Sadly the horrible launch, bugs, and lack of communication from the devs really tained the game. There's so many little things they could have done to tighten the game up and I think it was just a young team that was figuring it out as they went and made several mistakes. Wolcen is on of my favorite games I've ever played and the new endgame expansion makes the game even better and fixed a ton of bugs. I truly hope they keep adding to the game because is a remarkable game that has gotten a bad rap
@Thyworm
@Thyworm 9 ай бұрын
They went dark again for a while now. I don't think we will get more Wolven personally, but a Wolcen 2 would be an option for sure.
@gigglehurtz3167
@gigglehurtz3167 Жыл бұрын
yah but let us never forget it was originally supposed to be an open world ARPG which would have been awesome
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
We got D4 now for that, I suppose. I quite enjoyed the open world there, more than I thought I would
@gigglehurtz3167
@gigglehurtz3167 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm yep im lookin forward to it, even after d3 kicked me square in my dangling disappointed balls. Really didnt like d3 ;/ I hope d4 is better.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I played it, I think it is already better. But I can't see myself play it for more than 200 hours. Let's see
@robertatwell694
@robertatwell694 Жыл бұрын
Im going to take the plunge and purchase this game TODAY! ARPGS are one of my favorite genres as im a Diablo/POE fanatic! The last GOOD ARPG i played besides the Diablo entries was Grim Dawn so hopefully my experience with Wolcen will be pleasant AND fun!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Have fun Robert, as long as you keep your expectations in check, you should be fine. Especially on sale, this game is a bargain, but you could argue it is worth full price these days as well
@Jubzilla
@Jubzilla Жыл бұрын
Wish I could say the same but I'm having no shortage of crashes and plenty of bugs. Don't know how you can say the controller support is so good when there are numerous obvious areas with loot that can't even be pathed to without grabbing your mouse instead. On top of that as soon as i reach endgame and get the new (to me) Oshara quests I do one and the second disappears from my game without a trace after a restart.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I didnt have any issues with the controller, and I didn't crash once. And I used to have tons of issues on the same system. But ye, different systems, different hardware, your mileage may vary unfortunately. The perks of PC gaming.
@hspank
@hspank Жыл бұрын
is it possible to disable the flickering strobo effect telegraphing a hit? not for accessability to avoid seizures but simply because it looks annoying.
@salamathesusatbiyernesulit2161
@salamathesusatbiyernesulit2161 Жыл бұрын
Wolcen is on sale now for 5 USD and I am thinking of giving it a go. I came from Grim Dawn and Titan Quest and really enjoyed playing them. How is Wolcen compared to those games I mentioned?
@drewunger2133
@drewunger2133 Жыл бұрын
Where is it 5 USD? It's 10 USD on Steam right now.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I think Grim Dawn has a lot more depth. And content. But like I said in the vid, Wolcen is gonna give you a good 50-100 hours of fun.
@jiunc.1604
@jiunc.1604 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm Yeah , Grim Dawn is for 5 euro on steam, Wolcen is 9 eu/$. p.s. I could not get in to Grim Dawn. I find the skill effects... err lacking visually. Games like this are to be played for many hours ... so the skill effects should be looking good and feel impactful.
@TwistedFire85
@TwistedFire85 Жыл бұрын
I'll tell you a little story about Wolcen, what originally was Umbra. This game popped up on kickstarter as Umbra and was way way different then what it is now. The proof of concept demo was a really neat concept but it was too difficult for them to program and so they made it into the game it is now. The game isn't bad, just not what it was supposed to be for us kickstarters it sucked but it happens. Now here's the part I never played the game after it released. The team making the game stopped talking to their kickstarter backers about anything. When the game released the dev team have out fee Kickstarter reward keys to steamers. Meanwhile, 0, and I mean zero kickstarters had any game keys at all. For months kickstarter backers were either forced to buy the game again or wait to see if they would get their keys. Finally we got our keys after throwing a big fit all over different platforms. But we still didn't have our kickstarter rewards and physical rewards. They finally gave some of the ingame rewards but not the physical stuff. After all these years they are going to ship out physical rewards now... this year they updated kickstarter backers that they're going to send it..... how many years has it been? Idk anymore. But i did jump into the game like 4 weeks ago for the first time and was playing. It's a decent game and I still have 2 game keys left, standard game keys not kickstarter one and no one wants them lol. 😑
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
ye, I'm aware of this. But didn't feel like bringing all of this up.
@TwistedFire85
@TwistedFire85 Жыл бұрын
@Thyworm imo it's worth telling to people to inform them about this company and their current track record. I'll never buy anything of theirs if they make any other games. Screw over your backers that financed your game and not give them their rewards or communicate for months is BS.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
But at this point, you can buy wolcen, and play it, and enjoy it. That was the point I'm making. I agree that the devs messed up. I mean, everyone does pretty much. But there's no added value bringing that up every time. Someone else can make a video about that ;)
@Yusei255
@Yusei255 Жыл бұрын
And unlike Diablo 4, this has an Off-line mode. Which instantly makes it better.
@KjKase
@KjKase Жыл бұрын
I just bought this on sale for quite a heavy discount. I was instantly disappointed by how clunky the combat felt. Like I can't dodge if I've already started an ability, it locks you in place until it finishes. So it doesn't feel responsive at all. I've always hated clunky feeling games like that, and it's why I've always loved blizzard games in the past because of how polished, snappy, and responsive the controls felt. Is this how they intend to keep the combat?
@KjKase
@KjKase Жыл бұрын
I'd return it based on the clunky combat alone, but it's only $10, so maybe I'll hold onto it with the hopes they'll fix it in the future if they'd still updating it. :(
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
the combat has been like that for a while. It depends a bit which build you're playing, but you're right. That probably won't be fixed any time soon, is my guess. It's been in there for a long time like this.
@johndarkhorse396
@johndarkhorse396 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't keep a broken game and hope for the best. I'd refund it and if they do actually change it later you can rebuy it. It's better than getting stuck with a broken game that might always be broken. I also read that there are still bugs in the game that have been in there since launch day and they released their buggy game on consoles too. I wouldn't put high hopes into a developer who does stuff like that. People think they rushed it out to get ahead of the Diablo IV beta.
@tontonsatan3093
@tontonsatan3093 Жыл бұрын
I must admit I tried not expecting much and well, game is really really good now, provided they ramp up their endgame(loot, build archetypes,mechanics) it's going to be soooooo good!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Ye it is a fun game man
@johndarkhorse396
@johndarkhorse396 Жыл бұрын
You say there's no game breaking bugs yet some guy just posted in the forums that his level 39 guy on PlayStation got kicked to the main menu and won't let him load that character anymore. That sounds game breaking to me. And I know that maybe it's just a console issue, but still, I can't imagine getting that far and then having your character bricked.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Im sure some guy has issues. I just said that for me, there were no gamebreaking bugs, and those used to exist for me. The game improved a lot, but your mileage may vary of course
@ExplosivePeeps
@ExplosivePeeps Жыл бұрын
Thank you for not putting the game in your description for people to check out. Love that.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
ye, that emphasizes once again how focused I am on money and selling stuff, rather than just making content. I'm not sure they're even selling it over there, but I'll have a look.
@jordy703
@jordy703 Жыл бұрын
After a couple of hours playing it on my PS5 i was positively surprised how beautiful this game looks and how fun it is to play. Great fun game
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear man, enjoy
@AngryhammerGames
@AngryhammerGames 8 ай бұрын
I just started a few weeks ago from the sale, and ya game is awesome!
@Gumchi.
@Gumchi. Жыл бұрын
The game had Hugh potential and still it have really good gameplay, sound and graphic and ofc they fix alot of things but we waited years for ACT4. Still think the campaign and environment is one of the best in the genre, its like a mix between Diablo and Warhammer world. Hope they could make a sequel in the future with all the things they want to do.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I think they'll just keep working on this one, honestly.
@Gumchi.
@Gumchi. Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm I think Act 4 going to be the last thing and then they would move to another project.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Could be. I just think that if that was the plan, they would've made that decision ages ago. I think they're committed to this one. Also, there isn't much point in making a wolcen 2, apart from the negative connotations perhaps. I don't see many advantages, but who knows. Time will tell I guess.
@Gumchi.
@Gumchi. Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm yes ofc I also don't think it's gonna be wc2 just said I want them to make a sequel in the future bc I like the world.
@zavizaoldyek2157
@zavizaoldyek2157 Жыл бұрын
i remeber buying that game in the beginning of early access, one of the main reason was wasd movement (i don't remember if we had it or it was just promised, but that was one of the main reasons) and i have to say i am still a bit salty that this never came
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Try controller though. That might work for you
@Brekner
@Brekner Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no, I'll wait some more before giving it another shot. It needs a 2.0 update to get me back.
@thepear6684
@thepear6684 Жыл бұрын
Bought it really cheap and it‘s okay. But stopped playing after I got Grim Dawn👌
@myst0ne
@myst0ne Жыл бұрын
Why do you like GD better?
@thepear6684
@thepear6684 Жыл бұрын
@@myst0ne The World feels more alive. The Story for me is better and the Classes are for me personally, more interesting. Kinda like Titan Quest. I just can‘t get attached to my Character in Wolcen. Even tho it is a good Game✌️
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Yes the classes I can see. Wolcen can feel limited in that regard, although there are plenty of skills still. I enjoy GD too. I should give that game another go at some point as well.
@ArnaudSibille
@ArnaudSibille Жыл бұрын
@@thepear6684 Grim Dawn is the golden gem of action RPGs 🥰 And its Lovecraftian universe is indeed quite appealing: the lore is rich!
@DadBodDan88
@DadBodDan88 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm same. Grabbed all the expacs that went on sale a while back. I needa jump back in. I think GD just has a slow start, at least it felt that way to me
@Valhalian.
@Valhalian. Жыл бұрын
I actually can’t put this game down, downloaded of a recommendation from my brother. And I’ve been playing since
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
ye it's pretty fun
@palleppalsson
@palleppalsson Жыл бұрын
Performance good Dude you got an FPS meter enabled and were inte the 40s when there was some action. So depending on HW it might be a lag fest.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Overall performance was fine. It's an arpg, you're going to encounter moments with 40fps in pretty much any arpg, because of how much shit can happen. And I'm running at the highest settings, with a bit of an older PC by now. So it is good.
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf Жыл бұрын
I got it this week, and its good looking, but it 'feels' a little clunky. Swinging melee weapons misses alot, and the player sticks to the ground.. its very clunky in melee. Im only a few hrs in, and Ive encountered a few problems. Failure tovcreate a game, ui icons staying on screen after level up, enemy placement resetting after combat begins ans teleportjnf back to start position..
@Wiedadde
@Wiedadde Жыл бұрын
Good video! Might give it a try. On another note: how's inquisitor martyr's new season? Is it worth jumping in?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
ye, new season is fun I think. I'm playing that quite a bit. Might make a video on that one too.
@oskarkrzyzanowski8499
@oskarkrzyzanowski8499 Жыл бұрын
You're doing the hardest content and I started 2 days ago with my 20ish lvl character and gameplay looks exactly the same. We stand next to our skeleton minions and the big guy, waiting untill they kill everything.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
well, yes, it is a summoner build
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it is a problem. Your scaling is with more and more minions at higher level, I have way more than a lvl 20 character, and then just gear of course. That is just how it is, isn't it
@marshmallowoflegends209
@marshmallowoflegends209 Жыл бұрын
I like Wolcen but don't have a GPU to play it; I can only play it on Low Settings. Going to try it again. 😊
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
It still looks great on low though
@Pajreten
@Pajreten Жыл бұрын
On their Steam page it says act 4 update is on the way, don't know when it will drop. But it seems they are gonna update alot of the skills etc. Maybe it's time to test it out again. I only played for the first couple of weeks when the game launched.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Ye it is definitely worth trying out. You could wait for act 4 of course, but still
@Ryuk787
@Ryuk787 Жыл бұрын
A Really good video and a lot of good information Just bought it in Steam sale, thx buddy
@j.d.6915
@j.d.6915 Жыл бұрын
Wolcen is now reinstalled! Curious what its like now, I haven't played since release.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear, and let me know once you got some hours in.
@brandondean9040
@brandondean9040 Жыл бұрын
can you make a guide for dual sword/axes please
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
probably not any time soon, sorry.
@neothaka
@neothaka Жыл бұрын
I played it up and until the Bloodtrails update. I'll reinstall it again on the 15th when the story chapter update comes out. I was hoping there would be a lot more skills available though.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to that new chapter personally. I always really liked the campaign in wolcen
@glittersnatched
@glittersnatched Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! You have a very nice voice, btw!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@AlexVriairu
@AlexVriairu Жыл бұрын
Honestly... I can't agree with this review in terms of bugs, my SO and I got the game on launch... we just reinstalled a week ago and wanted to do a fresh coop run through the game's story mode... and ran into almost every bug we had seen at launch. Now I will be fair, the game runs near perfect if done in singleplayer/ offline mode but... we found playing it together (the reason we bought it) to be... all but impossible. Last Epoch faired as the much better game choice it seems for us.
@bemindful924
@bemindful924 Жыл бұрын
Have to agree. He destroyed his credibility with this overly positive feedback. The restock gamebreaking bug was recently fixed, but lost any incentive to continue with Wolcen. Bought Last Epoch, but it felt like a generic ARPG without the bells and whistles from a more polished/AAA game. Got my refund today.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I played this solo in online mode, and I should have mentioned that. I Don't play any ARPGs in coop, but ye, you can't know that. Apologies
@AlexVriairu
@AlexVriairu Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm NP, just wanted to point it out for people who are buying this FOR co op.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Ye, I understand
@MrLove-666
@MrLove-666 Жыл бұрын
Tried it once again, still the same stuff (not talking about the bugs, cause that's all they do, correct bugs from 2 years ago); uninstalled. Perhaps if they dare to do a Wolcen 2..
@huntersyava
@huntersyava Жыл бұрын
Where did you find your build? I'm trying to find some fully described necromancer builds but it not exists... In PoE it is so easy to find any build...
@stevencolon1723
@stevencolon1723 Жыл бұрын
This caught my eye. Any opinions on the PS5 version?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I'm playing the PC version as we speak, so I will ar least give my thoughts on chapter 4 and new end game
@Lordosvk
@Lordosvk Жыл бұрын
Thank you for honest review. i was waiting for this game to improve and now its on steam sale 8,74€.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
that's a steal man
@ArseneGray
@ArseneGray Жыл бұрын
Aaaah I guess you can say 30 years of ARPG even though it is a stretch. Diablo came out at 96`and up until D2 "aRPG" was not a common genre people used. And up until today you cannot really pinpoint an exact definition of aRPGs. Nowadays it means more about "games like diablo, path of exile, titan quest, etc.etc.etc". But there was a time people defined 3rd Person RPGs like or prince of persia (2010 ubisoft reboot) and similiar games with that word. This type of games were different then cRPGs (Baldur's gate, planescape etc.). They had steamlined systems a focus on world traversing like Metroid games (platforming etc. ). Today this games evolved into what people call "ubisoft formula RPGs". There are shitloads of this games around today, like Ghosts of Tsushima, Darksiders, God of War, Middle-Earth Shadow of War, AC Odyssey etc etc. I would even count games like Tomb Raider (SE Reboots) and Jedi Fallen Order to aRPGs. You played one you played all. Systems are all the same. then there are similiar RPGs from japan be it Jakuza series or FF , Ys etc etc Those we called JRPGs and still call them JRPGs. A good way for them to seperate themselves from western market. Even though if you analyse the games closer they all seem like converging to each other with each iteration. (maybe FF not so much): Furthermore we can call Bethesda RPGs and even From Software games simply "RPGs" without any further letter needed. aRPG is just a extremely bloated term. We called this games "diablo clones" back then.
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar Жыл бұрын
If you don't really care about grinding any endgame stuff, how is the main story/campaign?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Should still be good. I always liked it, it is one of the best in the genre, with some cinematic, voice acting, all pretty decent
@fartloudYT
@fartloudYT Жыл бұрын
I dont know man, did they hire designers? They surely did not have any on release. It was not the bugs, it was the simple fact that you could bring the game to a newbie theorycrafter from any arpg subreddit and they would find that the mechanics are poorly thoughtout in less than 5 minutes. At it's core the developers did not know what they are doing.
@TNTspaz
@TNTspaz Жыл бұрын
Wolcen needed like 5 more years. Should have just went into hybernation like Last Epoch. People are still waiting for Last Epoch with some anticipation. No one cares about Wolcen anymore The market is way too saturated for Wolcen to thrive in its current state. Technically it wasn't competeing against Last Epoch, Diablo, or Path of Exile. It was competing with fucking Grim Dawn. This game doesn't even exist on the same plane as Grim Dawn.
@arekchecinski8826
@arekchecinski8826 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video - buying right now. Is the end game boring after some time like in Last Epoch (btw appreciate your videos regarding LE) Keep up the good work, take care!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
yes, I would say end-game doesn't have that much variation, like LE. But I had a good time grinding it still, you just won't be doing that for more than 100 hours, I feel.
@JBoomerOfficial
@JBoomerOfficial Жыл бұрын
You've earned my sub, because I too have fun with Wolcen.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
nice to hear, and thanks!
@alexwalters9173
@alexwalters9173 Жыл бұрын
Wolcen was called bad when it first released. To be honest, these devs have done more than most triple A companies have done for modern releases. The game now is good. It's an above average ARPG.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
for sure, and I think it'll keep improving as well. There's more stuff coming up, levelling and city building gets buffed, an act 4, rebalancing again of skills. Should be good.
@DoctorStrange01
@DoctorStrange01 Жыл бұрын
Above average if your standards are below average. 3 years and itemization is still a disaster with whole item types being useless, no new items added, 1 (ONE) new skill added (useless). It wasn't called bad when it first released only. It's been called bad since forever, because there are design flaws that are not acceptable for great majority of ARPG players, which is reflected in this game's playerbase. Technical issues were the main reason in the beginning, but once they've started fixing those issues, people have focused more on the actual gameplay, which turned out to be lackluster as well, and left. Game pretty much didn't change content-wise since Bloodtrail update. They've been only balancing stuff here and there, except some minor changes like new endgame activities (that are ultimately useless, since you farm hunts anyway).
@Momoka7
@Momoka7 Жыл бұрын
3:16 "someone who plays ARPGs for 30 years". Diablo 1 which is the first ARPG that made the trend, was released in 1997, that's 26 years ago. But maybe can educate me, I am open. Otherwise I would state that you played ARPGs "for more then 25 years" rather then "over 30 years" which is untrue.
@Omschon
@Omschon Жыл бұрын
I got 12 hours of playtime on Steam from about 1 year ago and I stopped back then because the game was just soo easy. I noticed I was just mindlessly rushing through everything and got really bored doing so. Is the game harder or has more difficulty settings now?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
It doesn't have difficulty settings, but the endgame ramps up and does become pretty hard. Campaigns are a breeze, endgame definitely isn't. With harder mobs, modifiers all over the place, it is challenging.
@justsomedude-gaming9815
@justsomedude-gaming9815 Жыл бұрын
9.99 on steam right now Def grabbing it now. Thanks for the video!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear, thanks 😊 🙏
@RafaelMarcosAderaldo
@RafaelMarcosAderaldo Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to decide between Wolcen and Last Epoch, I like more the graphics of Wolcen and Last Epoch I couldn't find a ranged class that I like, I usually play mages but they seem really underpowered in Lost Epoch, Mana issues and just lightining skills seems to be used.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
They are still quite different. Wolcen is regularly on sale however, for 8 dollars, you should just get that for sure. It is fun these days
@Mitche23
@Mitche23 Жыл бұрын
The game is on sale for 75% on steam.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
ye, buy it, you won't regret it.
@ayemjake
@ayemjake Жыл бұрын
Bug fixing is one thing, My main concern is the build diversity it offers. From what I've experienced before, some of the other builds tend to heavily underperform, while others are overtuned, and the skill-wheel is completely imbalanced and tends to favor one archetype over the other.
@dsinemoi1mouton
@dsinemoi1mouton Жыл бұрын
As for the controller, have you tested Diablo II resurrected ? I found it very good for such an old school arpg
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I haven't played D2R
@JerBuster77
@JerBuster77 Жыл бұрын
Coming to console now. Just announced for PS5.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
That should give the game another boost. The controller support is really good, so this should work well on console
@batessdd
@batessdd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video ! Feeling a light ARPG-crave, looks like ill dust off my Wolcen and give it a try again.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
You should ;)
@icarusgeo
@icarusgeo Жыл бұрын
I played 100+ hours when it came out. I guess I was lucky for two reasons, I wasn't following the "Umbra" project, so my expectations were non-existant, and I wasn't affected by the "game-breaking" bugs that were apparently present. I only encountered a bug once or twice, and it didn't really block my progression or bother me beyond that. Yes, it is the most visually stunning ARPG, even 3 years later! Skills, items and combat are great, but end-game, min-maxing crafting is an unbearable pain.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Crafting is horrible haha
@chrisnelson6991
@chrisnelson6991 Жыл бұрын
I just picked it up. 10.00 on steam... 100 hours per dollar ratio should be a win.
@jiunc.1604
@jiunc.1604 Жыл бұрын
The singleplayer campaign is A+. I really like the voice acting, the actors are really good.
@MaTtRoSiTy
@MaTtRoSiTy Жыл бұрын
I got it on sale and am not particularly invested in it but I like this style of game... but I am here wonder why the hell all the negative reviews on Steam? It may not be the most amazing game ever but so far I think it is a very enjoyable way to kill some time and I have been enjoying it a lot.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I meant, I'm glad you're enjoying it for what it is
@Ultimita01
@Ultimita01 Жыл бұрын
It had a horrible launch and it was during the peak of covid lockdowns when everyone was crazy and watching tiger king lol
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Tiger King was better than wolcen though, let's be honest ;)
@MrSamsicbing
@MrSamsicbing Жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to remind themselves that this is an INDIE game. Made with a very small team of passionate developers and makes money from crowdfunding and one-time game purchases. Updates and bug fixes take longer because they don't have the same resources as a AAA gaming company.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I mean, yes and no. It is indie. But other indie games with similar size have been much more effective at bug fixing, or just building a game in general. Now, that can have many causes, but Last Epoch fixed game breaking bugs within a day or two, back when they had 15 devs. I get the update cycle, but bugs were really problematic for many years.
@DoctorStrange01
@DoctorStrange01 Жыл бұрын
Very bad take, indie devs with teams multiple times smaller than this have created masterpieces. Wolcen's devs were/are one of the most clueless and indecisive ones there are, confirmed by ex-employees who say the company (especially the managers) is a mess, and it's reflected in the quality of this game.
@nemure
@nemure Жыл бұрын
@@DoctorStrange01 this is true but also a lie. Very few indi teams have such high skilled staff, most indi teams never fix bugs. Game is released broken and stays like that forever.
@PureBrawler
@PureBrawler Жыл бұрын
I think you should do an update to this, the new, free 'expansion' is pretty good imo
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I'm going to play this again at some point, sure
@matthewfifer6885
@matthewfifer6885 Жыл бұрын
Wait, did they patch/update the original release of the controller support? I played it when they added it and it was a joke. Controlling the game with a gamepad was beyond obnoxious and terrible. It sounds like it's better now? For my money, D3 & Grim Dawn have the best controller support, I don't know if this is anywhere near either of those.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I think they did. I played with a controller last few months, and it's really good. I haven't played GD woth controller tbh. But wolcen even changes the UI based on input, so press controller button and the UI changes to that. Press MKB and it changes back. It's really smooth.
@NijAAlba
@NijAAlba Жыл бұрын
Another youtuber also recently played it. or tried to. It still ate his character, never even saved. And if a dev cant even fix this issue in 3 years, I dont think you not having gamebreaking bugs is enough to recommend it to people.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
So if one person ever has a game breaking bug, no one should play that video game? No one would be playing video games with this logic.
@chrisabanil2130
@chrisabanil2130 Жыл бұрын
It's $9.99 right now. I've been wanting to play it, but the reception and state that it was in prevented me from diving in. I'll probably give e it a go until Diablo IV release.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
You should, it is definitely worth 10 bucks
@chrisabanil2130
@chrisabanil2130 Жыл бұрын
@Thyworm Just bought it. For $10, yes, it's worth it. Although it's a bit clunky for my liking, it's a good game to kill time. I really really hope Diablo IV is the Diablo we all deserve.
@MarksFutureGains
@MarksFutureGains Жыл бұрын
help please. I started playing wolcen a few days ago and in game my armor does show on character and while i am in a zone a replace symbol red ball shows on random items even on weapons i am holding a gun but in game and cut sence its a red ball that say replace. any thoughts on this.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Sorry, no idea what this is about
@MarksFutureGains
@MarksFutureGains Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm ok ty 😔 😟 🙁
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
you can try posting a screenshot on imgur or something, maybe then I see what you mean
@MarksFutureGains
@MarksFutureGains Жыл бұрын
@Thyworm found the problem. Files were missing from the steam download. I swear steam likes to throll us 😆 🤣 😂
@michaelhall4222
@michaelhall4222 Жыл бұрын
nice review. did you get many Null items drop at all in your run?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Null items?
@michaelhall4222
@michaelhall4222 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm the last time i played they had items bug out and they read Null Item, and nothing actually there
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
No, I didn't have that. That is probably fixed
@n8tiv355
@n8tiv355 Жыл бұрын
I played it on PlayStation, it’s good but to buggy and it keeps crashing. Uninstalled it . Definitely not worth what I paid for
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I hear that quite a bit. I reviewed this on PC, not on consoke
@ngoctuanvo5926
@ngoctuanvo5926 Жыл бұрын
Im in turkey and this game cost me not even 1$ lol but the price and the game comes so sweet tks a lot
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
lol,. that's pretty cheap.
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage Жыл бұрын
1:46 just wanted to point out... is not D "prettiest" ARPG but rather "one of" to me warhammer inquisitor martyr is another really good looking one and in some extend even better and is 2 years older then wolcen.
@Bilbiotheque
@Bilbiotheque Жыл бұрын
Is it mandatory to finish the story if I did it when the games launched please ? T_T ?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Others reported it is. For me it wasn't but i played like a year ago as well. I would start a new character for sure, right now
@Luzarioth
@Luzarioth Жыл бұрын
Did the devs learn how ARPGs work or do they still give you nodes like "10% INCREASED Damage IF the enemy is slowed" ?^^*
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
I don't know, i don't really pay attention to things like that
@plazmica0323
@plazmica0323 Жыл бұрын
you know game is good when its not making you waste hours browsing forums and whatnot on how the game works because developers didnt bother to type instructions for whatever reason (and i think main reason is so you spend more time in game that would fast go boring if they did it properly) . So nahh i want a fun passtime game not reading washing machine manual on whats what
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
wouldn't say it's that bad, but okay.
@groovypantsguss1404
@groovypantsguss1404 Жыл бұрын
Alright, time to give Wolcen again. Great video! 😊
@FuriousDevi
@FuriousDevi Жыл бұрын
I would like to revisit it but i think im wolcen-traumatized! When i see gameplay of it .. i just cant forget all the issues it had when i played it.
@666Avsky
@666Avsky Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I heard that you can't replay the story mode with your character, you need to create a new one. Is that true? I never played this game before and I will play it alone most likely bc I don't have many friends to play with. So I would like to know that I can replay the story mode or not without creating a new character each time. I usually get attached to my first chars so I don't like making too many chars just to play story mode.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
i'm not 100% sure, as this is not something I would ever want to do, replay the story on a single character multiple times. But I am pretty sure that isn't possible, no, because you go through the story, and you can replay certain key missions in the end game, but not the whole thing.
@666Avsky
@666Avsky Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm I see. Thanks for the info man. I wanted to replay the story on increasing difficulties as I did In Diablo 2 and Diablo 3. After watching this video, I checked your summoner/necromancer build you uploaded. (I was a necromancer main in D2) Gameplay and graphics look good. I will buy the game now since it is on discount. Thanks for the informative videos and quick reply. I hope you are having a great day!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
@@666Avsky you can't go wrong for 8 euros, I think it is now? Well worth it, I feel. Thanks, you have a great day too!
@frederickwallace7808
@frederickwallace7808 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean but stuck in old chronicles?
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
That you should start a new character, because the old ones can be messed up due to old chronicles (leagues and updates)
@TheSyn1cal
@TheSyn1cal Жыл бұрын
The game can be rather fun, agreed. Endgame missions are way better now, but that's honestly about it. There is little build variety and the mechanics and descriptions are still rather bad, with stuff still not working as (should be) intended.
@VyfrandMusic
@VyfrandMusic Жыл бұрын
@thyworm... Are you really @PaulDavidsGuitar???🤔
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Hehe, ye, the Dutch accent, I know. He plays a bit better guitar than me, but I actually watch him regularly. It is not me though. Haha
@nathonmowbray
@nathonmowbray Жыл бұрын
Instead of installing on PC I will be buying this for my PS5
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Ye, should be solid. Controller support is good with this one
@Gandalf_is_my_dog
@Gandalf_is_my_dog Жыл бұрын
I paid 7 dollars for this game, it seems like a pretty good game.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
It is a steal for 7 bucks
@IsThatDrak
@IsThatDrak Жыл бұрын
i still think wolcen is a great game my only issue i had with my 500+ total hours other than the disconnects and bugs is some items are use on all builds because there too op, and gold being found mostly from yellow items sold coz i hate picking up crap to sell i would rather they be worthless and give alot more money in the city planner. last time i played i think was when dragon chronicle come out and i enjoyed it for the most part coz of the disconnects. but i keep an eye on it and plan to plan the next chronicle if all works. campain was pretty fun but i never wanna do storys over and over
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Same. I don't want to do campaigns over and over either, looking at you PoE and Last Epoch
@IsThatDrak
@IsThatDrak Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm right lol at least LE has a mechanic to skip them but not for new characters / seasons
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Well, that mechanic doesn't really work, because you still need to do the quests to get the idol slots and passives. I see what you mean, but it isn't very well designed.
@IsThatDrak
@IsThatDrak Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm yeah, BUT you can get to the ice deer god place and then skip the rest or some say you can skip to act 9 and still get all idol slots and passives though i have not done it myself. i know there are alot in act 9 though, you still need dungeon keys and the power to beat said dungeons though. so better mechanic would be nice for both games!
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
You should try it. I don't think it is a fun experience, plus those dungeons are some of the worst content LE has to offer. And frustrating too
@realVertiqo
@realVertiqo Жыл бұрын
Are you still stuck in animations preventing you from taking a potion for example? that killed it for me
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Less so, but I played a build where that wasn't an issue
@jiunc.1604
@jiunc.1604 Жыл бұрын
@@Thyworm I've seen ppl giving bad reviews on steam just because "the stuck animation killed it" for them... But they dont give a s$it about how good the voice acting is, how good the singleplayer campaign/story is, or how good the game looks and perform in general... The skills especially look great and feel great and impactful! I guess we all have different views and opinions, but at the very least we should take in consideration and properly rate all aspects of a game before giving it a score. I wish ppl would stop giving bad reviews just because this or that game doe not have "cancel animation" like that other game. I just learn to play the game as is, and i dont let that "struck animation" stop me from enjoying all other aspects of the game.
@brendang9490
@brendang9490 Жыл бұрын
You Obviously don't live in Australia, the game is not playable at 170ping+
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Well, I dont, but can you really blame the game for Australian internet quality?
@ScROnZjara
@ScROnZjara Жыл бұрын
Idk how to say ))))) just bought it on super sale (-75%) and got insta 4 crash in a raw.
@gameplaysemcortes1662
@gameplaysemcortes1662 Жыл бұрын
Your are the perfect human being
@lamx0899
@lamx0899 Жыл бұрын
I really don't like how the end game is structured, it feels like a different version of D3 endgame. also just a small thing but the animation looks very stiffy honestly.
@Thyworm
@Thyworm Жыл бұрын
Oh, I like the animation, but I guess its personal
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