Why WWE Never Forgave Randy Savage

[@Manetho72]

Long story short: Macho was set to return to the WWE but he died.

[@ohboogyohwoogy]

Now say it in 11 minutes. Jesus that was a long vid with almost no Information

[@WWEUncovered]

Thanks for watching pal

[@Manetho72]

@@WWEUncovered No problem. I gave the video a thumbs up for your excellent editing skills!

[@WWEUncovered]

I appreciate that bro!

[@BrianKelly-et3bw]

As a commenter, bout his kid him stef wanted 🤣

[@TorvulBerry]

Macho Man was feeding Stephanie the Slim Jim.😮🤔😂

[@jte1407]

omg

[@tricky1992000]

The cream of the .... oh yeah

[@WWEUncovered]

Lmao

[@My19812011]

Randy Savage’s brother Lanny who was a manager in the 80’s and 90’s as The Genius basically confirmed the Randy/Stephanie McMahon thing in a shoot interview as did Randy’s ex, only two people who really confirm never will as one is unfortunately now longer with us and the other will never speak about it

[@TheSSUltimateGoku]

Randy Savage was on his way back to the WWE but unfortunately passed away. He appeared in the promotional commercial for WWE legends video game. Him doing that was kind of away to slowly bring him back to the company unfortunately because he passed away. It didn’t happen. I also don’t buy the Stephanie story. There’s been many accounts that have disapproved this. I think mostly the reason why it was because of the Slim Jim pulling out of WWE to stay with Randy Savage and go with WCW.

[@raulvito6246]

I might be crazy but the way McMahon acted when he announced on air that Macho was the property of WCW felt like a jilted teenager grieving over his crush… seeing the way McMahon has been revealed over the last years I would say that was more likely than pure pettiness

[@jpoorr9973]

Smaller wrestlers like Scott Hall😂

[@too4flynchen]

Also made me chuckle.

[@StarOasis26]

Great commentary, you know how to get to the point. thank you.

[@ferox965]

The Stephanie thing is a rumour. Vince is petty enough to bury Savage for anything else. Also, Superstar Billy Graham had a complicated relationship with Vince.

[@willisapril]

Savage's ex Stephanie Bellars was the one who started it and then claimed it was true

[@WWEUncovered]

She’s a wild one

[@marionlawless]

Vince is also scummy enough to rehire Savage even if the Stephanie thing was true, if he thought that there was money to be made.

[@travisreed5609]

Any relationship with Vince was complicated

[@willisapril]

3:28 Savage too old ? yet Bob Backlund was 44. 3 years older than Randy. He main evented and won the title at Survivor Series.

[@Makoto03]

I've always wondered this as well. WWE has accepted wrestlers who have been far more hostile to Vince and WWF/WWE than Randy Savage ever was. I heard about the Stephanie McMahon rumor and honestly thats the only thing i can think of that would justify Vince not contacting Randy while he was still alive.

[@WWEUncovered]

Yeah it’s so strange

[@TheSSUltimateGoku]

7:17 Not true look at Lex Luger he never made up with him.

[@My19812011]

Luger was working WWE a few years ago in a advisory role for people not taking steroids, he just hasn’t been inducted into the HOF

[@garethjones2746]

I wish Savage was allowed to have a hybrid role as if he remained, he maybe would still be a commentator now. I know big if.

[@WWEUncovered]

It would’ve been great

[@deadpilled2942]

He is NOT the only legend. They never came to terms with Pedro Morales, Stan Staziack, and Ivan Koloff. Yes, Vince would be that petty. There's no evidence of Stephanie, or anything.

[@ckdaimen8028]

If those guys had a public beef with Vince and the WWF then it's not common knowledge.

[@MarlonTaplin-i5t]

I feel like if he lived a bit longer he would have somehow came back

[@WWEUncovered]

Possibly

[@watersandblue6001]

Doubtful.

[@Lady.Luthien]

Yes, Vince would be that petty to let the Slim Jim endorsements (or lack thereof) affect his relationship with Macho.

[@thegoldfly1]

Not only taking the endorsement but it went to WCW and Bishoff has talked about how much that did for WCW.

[@Lady.Luthien]

@thegoldfly1 yes, that's what I meant by "or lack thereof".

[@thegoldfly1]

@@Lady.Luthien I understood what you meant by lack thereof, what I was saying was that where it went was part of why Vince would be petty about it as well. It wasn't just losing the endorsement. Like if Savage had retired and Slim Jim decided to stop being in wrestling instead(or even if they decided to not follow him and leave wrestling) Vince would have likely still been petty about it.

[@Lady.Luthien]

@thegoldfly1 yes, I know what you mean, and yeah, Vince is so petty that Randy is _still_ not in the Hall of Fame! (Petty over other stuff, not just Slim Jim. 😄)

[@ll7868]

Mickie James had a falling out with WWE and never went back, after she was fired as a wrestler in 2010 Mickie was given a PT job as an NXT trainer, she left in 2013 because WWF wouldn't allow her to wrestle anymore as Vince thought she was too old at the ripe old age of 32, Vince wanted her to train younger college aged girls as the next crop of Divas and that pissed Mickie off enough to quit WWE for good. She went on to become the Impact! Knockout Champion and retired on her own terms in 2022. Gail Kim went through pretty much the same scenario and they had some pretty good matches in Impact!, you could say the Knockouts Division saved that company.

[@dodolemagnifique]

Great vid, good job and I agree with your conclusion. New subscriber right here !

[@WWEUncovered]

💯

[@kevns2148]

"Would Vince really be that petty over a-" "Yes.."

[@quavehiphop9152]

Good work. One thing though. Ultimate Warrior was not fired after SummerSlam 91. He was suspended.

[@joshuaa1605]

He was def fired lol

[@quavehiphop9152]

@joshuaa1605 Read the full letter Vince gave to Warrior after the show. Page 3 specifically. It clearly says this was a suspension letter not a termination letter.

[@David_Bower]

The Macho Man Stephanie rumours would make sense though. Whether she was underage or not she'd have still been a teenager, and there's a huge age gap between them, actions like that would incur the wrath off any father.

[@OscarsBadFurDay]

Good detective work 👍

[@Nicholas-dreamlove]

I heard that Randy had a secret affair with Stephanie McMahon.

[@Scott-oo2cz]

It was that or taking his Slim Jim endorsement money with him to WCW.

[@WWEUncovered]

Who told you that

[@Nicholas-dreamlove]

@@WWEUncovered : I believe I heard it either on "Monte and the Pharoh" podcast or Mike Prichard podcast, can't remember which, however, I'm certain I heard that rumor from one of them

[@charliewaters5289]

Only thing that makes sense.

[@alanguages]

Stephanie should have inducted the Macho Man.

[@bluebaron6858]

2011... Time flies

[@Guts-the-Berserker]

The Steph story was legit. Vince can forgive but he never forgets, just ask Kurt Angle.

[@fauziazzurri]

Randy Savage wasn’t blackballed but Marcus “Buff” Bagwell damn sure was blackballed by WWE since 2001 unfortunately

[@MisterWheelzProductions]

WWE had started to mend fences with Randy. He did voice acting for WWE Allstars and he was in the commercial for the game but Randy died not long after.

[@thegoldfly1]

So what I don't get is complaining he wasn't put in the Hall of Fame until after his death, but at the end you finally acknowledge he didn't want to go in unless his whole family was put in. Well if they couldn't get him to agree to go in how did you expect that to work? Do you think they'd induct him when he wouldn't show?

[@christopherballero866]

The only thing that makes sense for Randy Savage not going back to WWE is that Savage being with Steph as Savage never did anything that bad in terms of having heat with Vince or vice-versa. Savage even went to TNA so he wanted to stay in the industry

[@WWEUncovered]

I’m surprised he didn’t stay in TNA longer, he could’ve rung em dry like Hulk did

[@darkman699]

correction, Bret didn't want to loose the belt at survivor series because it was in Montreal, Canada. Not his home city but still his home country.

[@stevepemberton151]

Correction. Bret would have dropped the title to anyone BUT Shawn. He's said so on multiple occasions. For Bret, it wasn't about Canada at all. It was respect (or lack thereof) on Shawn's part.

[@jb888888888]

Macho was instrumental in WCW stealing away The Genius from the WWF. Unforgivable.

[@Nicholas-dreamlove]

Can you imagine the look on Vince's face when he learned this?

[@fishingandhockeyaquariums5167]

I think macho man would have eventually buried the hatchet and returned in some form especially in todays era of wwe he just didn’t live long enough to see it happen

[@vernongrant3596]

Greatest wrestler of all time. An American Icon.

[@user-yt9ro7md2h]

Will always be a Randy savage fan. I enjoyed his commentary as well. Def one of the GOATS

[@Supertron1]

I doubt the rumor is true. Why would Vince have given him a heartfelt goodbye and wished him well? I think it’s more likely that Vince held a grudge when he realized he was losing Slim Jim as a sponsor, since the WWF was already kind of struggling around that time.

[@CULT539]

In one of his documentaries there was a younger girl that was saying how she talked to Randy, texted with him all the time. She might’ve been 18-19…. So he was clearly talking to her when she was underage. He was old enough to be her dad.

[@madtownangler]

My Uncle Bob in his younger and skinnier years used to look and sound just like Randy Savage. His nickname to us was Uncle Savage. He built a pumpkin chucking machine out of a propane tank and a crane that he could move the cannon around. He would spend every weekend in October chucking pumpkins and wearing his Green Bay Packers safety helmet at a farm in Illinois

[@dustinwilliamson6826]

I like how you called Razor small and natural

[@kenkos179]

Savage answers a lot of of these questions in dark side of the ring.

[@mikeyjohn9720]

He “Snapped into” Stephanie…and that was it.

[@Shane1977-q6d]

When all the old guys left.WCW almost put WWE out of business.

[@BettyJames-gb2cf]

He was coming back regardless. Like Russo said " you're the MachoMan_ R.I.p to the Legend" ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@kaltblut]

razor Ramon was a smaller guy than savage? what

[@aegisofhonor]

Vince is VERY petty, he once paid back Undertaker for a bet they made in pennies out of spite, even though Vince was busy with a ton of other things, he had time to be super petty in the most underhand ways to his top stars.

[@manaiabull]

Bret didn't want to drop the belt in Canada

[@randyruger9063]

I've never been able to find it since, but I distinctly remember a KZbin vid of a radio interview where Lanny confirms the Stephanie story. This was before I started smoking so I believe its a true memory

[@millec60]

Lanny said he had no idea

[@theragoooverlord5021]

The Stephanie rumor can be debunked easy if people just consider a few things, another thing I could add is that Randy had in issue with someone that was it, Vince would have really needed the tact to resolve the problems (something HHH is better with)

[@christopherbrush7845]

Ummmmmm, it might be Savage died to quickly after the "break up" for reconciliation to take place?

[@toddcribbs6844]

I'm telling you that was the worst ever the Nacho Man

[@lcceo22]

Ehhhh if the rumors that Randy Savaged Stephanie, Vince is probably just mad that he didn’t get to do it

[@thomass789]

Knowing what we know now about Vince, I think he would like Savage even MORE if he knew that Savage hooked up with Stephanie.

[@WWEUncovered]

Sick lmaoo

[@whatutalkinboutwillis6122]

It’s obviously for two reasons one he took $750,000 of endorsement money of Slim Jim money with him. Eric Bischoff mentioned this as he said he paid Savage $750,000 and got $750,000 from Slim Jim so he got him for free. The real reason is that Savage was extremely frugal and kept all his money. Stories of him in the ‘80s he was notorious for sleeping in his car to save money on hotel rooms. And didn’t party lavishly like other wrestlers did. It’s because of that he didn’t have to return. In Vince’s huge ego (which is massive) it’s easier to deal with “I’m not allowing him to return” over he dosent need us as just about everyone else has either come crawling back or been refused by the WWF. Savage was pretty much the only exception. In addition Prichard is a huge McMahon suck up and his recollection of events is extremely pro McMahon to the point of being almost Hoganish when talking history. Truth of the matter was Savage was being written off in ‘93 because of the whole “New Generation” movement and they felt he was too old which was nonsense. I mean savage vs Hart at WM 9 would have saved that train wreck of a card. So they sidelined him as a color commentator. But it wasn’t an hugely positive view as keeping him around. Never understood JR’s dislike of Savage because almost everyone liked Savage. More I hear from JR the more he comes off as kind of a grump

[@hadlee73]

LA Knight is actually 42, but technically it doesn't change the point you were making (that Randy could still wrestle).

[@marioyungblood]

Pause it @ " 3:10 " and look on the left syde of Razor Knee?? Tat's Joey from Slipknot "RIP🙏btw"... it sure does look like him tho, No Dis▪Respect he was Awesome🤘🤘 anyway who was this guy reppin back then??? Taker?? I don't know anyone wrestlers who look like that???🤔🤔 Vampiro??

[@ecogreco]

A little off topic but internet fans seem to praise Randy Savage while attacking Hogan's character, but Randy Savage was just as bad, if not worse than Hogan. Fans seem to gloss over that Randy Savage was possessive and emotionally abusive to Miss Elizabeth. He also had a colorful personality backstage, especially during his last times in WCW, so I wouldn't think the WWE management would want that around.

[@Eddie-61864]

Get out of here PUKESTER!

[@bb-gc2tx]

it was called billionaire teds wrasslin war room.

[@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi]

Lex Luger also didn't return.

[@WWEUncovered]

Idk if I would consider Luger a legend. Memorable wrestler from his era yes, but legend idk

[@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi]

@@WWEUncovered You got a point. His WWF career kinda fell flat although at one point they tried to make him the face of the company. Plus, he was never WWF champion. Anyways, happy new year

[@adrenaliner91]

Could you think of a world were he got Steph pregnant and either blow up in flames in a scandal or becoming Triple H in the process depending on when it actually happened?

[@jerry85g7]

Randy did do a promo for a WWE video game. But he passed away. He would of returned had he lived.

[@25spaz]

I think with Vince, its about money. He was bitter about the slim -jim deal randy made cutting vince out.

[@INFERNO95]

It vince fault. He a god and a monster who wants everyone to bow down to him.

[@Linklex7]

It’s gotta be the Stephanie Rumors, cause looking back on it, Savage didn’t do anything that terrible compared to others who pissed off Vince. Compared to the likes of Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Bruno Sammartimo, Jeff Jarrett, and Nailz. I feel like at this point, Vince would make peace with Nailz before he would with Macho Man.

[@WWEUncovered]

Absolutely

[@adamirishconundrum851]

Bad news Brown told Warrior to hold Vince up for equal pay as Hogan

[@alanguages]

WrestleMania 18 should have had Savage vs Austin and Hogan vs Rock. Ideally that would have been best for business.

[@Linklex7]

Reverse those. Austin vs Rock and Savage vs Rock. Those promos would’ve been insane.

[@b_side8669]

Ok Bret for one wasn’t natural he even said himself he roided

[@NickWeissMusic]

Savage was just a pain in the ass business wise. so is Jesse Ventura, savage was never as vocally critical of Vince as Ventura, and they worked things out when the timing and money was right. With the right deal, savage would’ve been back, it was probably already in the works since they made game characters and action figures of him just before he died. The only reason he wasn’t in the booth somewhere is because he didn’t want to. He sure didn’t need to, thanks to Slim Jim. Savage and Vince were/are both very smart, and crazy. There were going to be some bumps along the way lol.

[@adamirishconundrum851]

Its a shame, i loved Bret as a kid but its pathetic how petty and bitter he has stayed

[@roberteldritch6285]

Lanny Poffo said Savage didn’t want anything to do with them either. But time changes things so idk anything (continues watching the damn vid

[@magicsinglez]

I’ve watched some old video of Macho Man. I really suspect of Macho Man, he Liked jumping and flying around.

[@leoh1191]

Vince doesn't give a shit about people..but he knew macho could still go and make someone $$$..He was still a big deal

[@James-rm7sr]

I believe Machoman was with Stephanie. There are way to many that say it is true for it not to be. I think if she was under age then it was more a pride thing. I think you are right they were on their way to making up when he died. I believe had he lived he would have been forgiven. Stephanie was happily married at that point to Triple H. So, it was likely an unspoken agreement not to talk about it.

[@_Reaction_Jackson]

Ohhhhh yeah brother

[@lunarsoulz]

The rumor was Macho Man had an affair with then teenager Stephanie McMahon. Which is why Vince never forgave him.

[@MikeyMike-x4z]

Do you all remember that backstage promo between Steph and Vince when they had there fued in what 2002 or 3 I forget But Steph Really layed into Vince saying she was sick of being a toy for people during busines meetings??? Shit I know iam botching it Bad But does anyone know the promo I am talking about? Sounded like she was implying that Vince woukd let ceryin guys sleep with Steph if they re signed SOMEONE KNOWS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT LOL Thanks 🤜🤜

[@J0nny_Ch1mp0]

Yeah I memba.

[@afzalhakeen4941]

randy broked steps cherry

[@basslife2248]

Never really liked Jr’s commentary(boring,& had favorites)Gorilla,Bobby,Jesse, Vince,King,Taz,Cole were all better than him IMO

[@paulhager1281]

They killed warrior...vince and his people..put him down...coincidence my ass...

[@bobklein7366]

Chyna too

[@michaelmclaren1333]

The Stephanie rumors piss me off! Not only is it unfounded with NO PROOF, i am a fan of mach, always was always will be. You guys throw that around because its not as elegant or attention getting as Randy took the SLIM JIM contract with him! It cost vince almost a million dollars per year in ad revenue! He didnt read the fine print when randy took the slim jim contract with him. So no randy macho man savage didnt cheat on Elizabeth with Stephanie. And WHO would even know? Do you think she went up to vince and said mach just fkd me so good!? That is as baseless as everyone that wouldn't accept there was ONLY ONE ultimate warrior. Jim hellwig.

[@michaelmclaren1333]

Randy was not inducted before he was because he wanted his father and brother to go in with him. WWE would NOT come to terms with that. The Stephanie rumors piss me off. You guys HAVE the reason right in front of you abd its been there the entire time!! People are so freakin dense. Listen to Eric Bischoff talk about how signing randy AND Lanny cost him...well.... AOL/Time Warner... Virtually no money at ALL because vince didbt read the fine print on the SLIM JIM deal. The cobtract was for RANDY ALONE. So when he jumped ship to WCW in 1994, he took SLIM JIM with him. He was getting almost a million dollars per year to say that catchphrase. This was at a time that pro wrestling was....i wont say unpopular but wrestling in general just lost some appeal. So a mil dollars a year is nothing to the WWE after they went public but in 1994 losing a MAJOR star AND the SLIM JIM contract. Vince had to sign a 2nd contract with SLIM JIM for that ad revenue. But being financially stable as randy was known for (some say cheap) he got one over on vince. It was LANNY and Randys new (at the time) wife. They both said its not just about randy. They felt it was a disservice to HIS FANS. They knew that every year that goes by, more and more of randys fans are passing away. They didnt want him to be forgotten. The slim jim contract is apparently not as juicy to talk about.

[@petelugazzi3296]

What are talking about. They did forgive Randy Savage. Randy advertised one of the wwe video games and is a playable character in them. Some one just wants some clicks. May I give you an ounce of advice. GET A LIFE

[@Manetho72]

"Featured smaller, natural looking wrestlers like . . . Razor Ramon." Lol Wut? RR may not have been roided to the nines, but he was not small.

[@ironpriest9405]

Came here to say this! Hall was 6'7 275 lbs!

[@WWEUncovered]

Yeah I just meant that razor didn’t look steroided up like guys like Hogan, Warrior, Hercules Hernandez etc

[@rogeliomontoya-y1y]

what i heard was savage was not the same acording what what i heard, WCW didnt even want him becuse he was not the same and he focused on persuing fame with comercials and movies, there was another which is hearsay. it involved a female that involved stephanie, not proven and no proof other that hearsay,

[@mornybenzz4343]

So randy did what vince did to so many women ok gotcha

[@packfresh1]

Really... clearly you never heard of nailz before...? He never came back... or what about Ludvig Borga...? you need better research skills.😂

[@WWEUncovered]

Didn’t know nailz was a ‘legend’ thanks 👍🏼

[@sowingandreaping7871]

Cm punk was not in aew for years

[@WWEUncovered]

lol

[@holzman00]

2021 - 2023, 2 years

[@jacobgraves3505]

Macho was the greatest

[@michaelgarcia8602]

The Is a lot things we may never know. What happened With The Macho Man & WWE It a 1 side Story . Macho Man not with us . WWE Would give 1 sides of The Story. It sad😢😢😢😮😮😮.

[@toddcribbs6844]

Not a big fan of vkm big fan of Randy poffo for Randy Savage

[@jsmith3946]

wow this video is stupid Vince reached out to Macho Man a bunch of different time and he was the one to always say no

[@WWEUncovered]

Thanks for watching 💪🏼

[@Saltydiddler]

If savage didn't do the deed with steph when she was 17 yrs old. Then where did the rumor come from and why does it still exist?

[@joshuaa1605]

It came from savages shoot interview where he threatened hhh he'd take steph from him.

[@matttrent946]

TRIPLE H OOH YEAH, HOW ARE THE SLOPPY SECONDS? MY SLIM JIM WENT IN THERE FIRST OOOH YEAH would have made for a great WWE HOF speech, beginning or end.

[@sirtavion20]

It was bc of Stephanie McMahon. That simple

[@jasoncarty467]

Got any solid proof of that. There is only 2 people who know and 1 of them is dead, so what good does saying that do if you can't back up your words

[@-XKHAN-]

There is a video of Savage in the weight room calling out HHH and saying to him in his rant he is gonna take Stephanie around the corner!! ​@@jasoncarty467why the hell would he say that if there was no truth to this, and seems like Stephanie will take this to her grave also

[@MrSheckstr]

@@jasoncarty467 The people who believe this because believing it makes any associated story more interesting, not that any confirmation or theory is in anyway logical or credible….. IF such a incident is the cause of the unreconcilable rift between the Poffo and McMahon family why would purpose would it serve to have a savage advocate suggesting it while a McMahon advocate denying or simply keeping silent? Given that the oldest Stephanie could possibly be is barely 19 confirmation of this story would damage Randy’d legacy a hell of alot more than Stephanie

[@DirtyDemon917]

The word is “tirade” not “tyrant”

[@WWEUncovered]

lol

[@josephchaney4732]

He was forgiven years ago

[@Jamal-bl7yh]

Well I'm Not Randy Savage I'm Not a Athlete or Entertainer but I can relate I was a massive NFL Guy for over a Decade but stupid ass Sports Fans and ridiculous scandals soured me on the American Football league and I stopped watching In 2013 for Bellator MMA like I did Wrestling but I returned to Wrestling had a brief stint with Canadian Football loved what saw but the NFL Is at least to me kinda Mainstream and Trashy that Taylor Swift BS really got on my nerves and they showing It on Nickelodeon the NFL may hate my opinions but I'm very valid In my points SpongeBob SquarePants and Dora The Explorer belong In Hollywood Squares not The NFL

[@James40000]

An athlete*

[@thegoldfly1]

So do you know what a period is? Also why shouldn't the NFL try to appeal to people other than you? You don't have to watch the game on Nick. Complaining it exists would be like me complaining about the "Manningcast". At least as far as I remember the games are broadcast on CBS and Nick does their own broadcast.

[@joshuap.9762]

You are certainly not a punctuation guy either, are you?

[@-XKHAN-]

I believe Macho slept with Steph!! Macho cut a promo angry as hell and called out HHH and said in his rant he will take Stephanie around the corner!! What would make him say such a thing?? These are facts that this went down and Vince would never forgive Savage for the act

[@joshuaa1605]

The shoot interview is a fact. The hookup is not.

[@christopherharte4741]

Not even a minute in and already stating lies

[@hgrimes9824]

Rumor is he knew Stephanie in the carnal sense.

[@1200hobos]

Mach Man is a Rosetta Stone of everything wrong with mankind. (Not the wrestler Mankind).