Why Yoda Didn't Believe Ahsoka, Ezra, Kanan and Cal Were "True" Jedi - Star Wars Explained

[@marwig87]

Ahsoka didn't think of herself as a Jedi and was probably stuck on Malachor, Ezra was in a different galaxy, Kanan died before A New Hope. Cal put a side being a Jedi to have a relationship with Merrin. Most of the other Jedi were hiding from the Empire after Order 66. Luke was the only one trained, helping the Rebels, taking on the Empire, trying to make the Galaxy a better place.

[@jtjames79]

Jedi is just a club of force users. You don't have to be in the club. Doesn't change anything.

[@asian123205]

Also the one who will bring back his father to his senses back to himself! "You failed your highness. I am a Jedi like my father before me."

[@jtjames79]

@@dverarde84 I just said the same thing you did in a different way. Maybe you should be less aggro.

[@DigiPen92]

Thrawn did called Ahsoka as a Rorin. It’s because 1.) Ahsoka isn’t part of the Jedi Order anymore. 2.) Ahsoka was a Padawan before she left and she wasn’t knighted as a Jedi Knight.

[@aracelymoran2504]

+ @marwig87 Grasping for straws much?

[@VileHearts]

Luke probably had the most terrifying jedi trial ever. People forget that he was still a padawan going off to confront two of the scariest sith in history

[@TheDeathmail]

Yes, but they were also cripple....

[@VileHearts]

@@TheDeathmail lol are you really trying to downplay what Luke did? The emperor was not crippled and neither was vader at the time of the confrontation

[@zzing]

@@VileHearts Wasn't vader though? Hasn't it been established that the whole point of the suit was to nerf vader's power?

[@VileHearts]

@@zzing yes it was and it made him vulnerable to force lightning. But saying he and Palpatine were both crippled therefore what Luke did wasn't impressive is just wrong. Even with the suits limitations Vader killed many, many powerful jedi. He was no push over by any means. Luke's power at that point was matching Vader's and only getting stronger. So was vader with his suit gimped compared to what he would have been if he didn't get injured? Absolutely. That being said, he was still roughly 80% of what Palpatine was which is still insane. Luke faced down two monsters and came out on top. I don't think anyone else could have done that

[@ryochan9438]

history?? nope they used to be much stronger b4 the rule of two

[@DK-gy7ll]

Yoda simply told Luke what he needed to hear. Rather than reveal that there were other Force sensitives out there he made it clear to Luke that he alone needed to step up to the plate and defeat Darth Vader.

[@haydenjurko]

That’s how I’ve kind of always thought of it. Even back in the day.Cause it’s like out of the survivors of order 66 and just the galaxy in general, it’s not impossible that there’d be a Jedi or force sensitives some where out there.

[@zk4761]

Agree. Kenobi said he's the last hope and he goes there is another. All he did was push him to take on Vader and bring back the order. He was well aware there were other force wielders that used the light side of the force. Even if he didn't officially call them jedi.

[@angryhd2976]

@@RandomGuy-lu1enthat’s correct when the original star wars movie came out there was no disney series or anything else before it. So all this speculation and making new stories fit doesn’t work.

[@martinmolloy3544]

All the others have ret-conned(put in after the film was made) but that still doesnt take away that yoda HAD TO SAY THAT! Luke was searching for a way "not to face(& cut down his father!) vader! Yoda had to say your the the last, the new hope, only you can do it and it needs done now, and know how much luke wanted to be" a true jedi", added in "your training is incomplete only by facing your fears ie Vader will you finally be a jedi!! So whether other jedi or force users existed? Doesnt matter, to that moment, for luke there were no others to do His job

[@stmon12]

It was Yoda just trying to motivate Luke!! Why would he (Yoda)send a padawan to do what he(Yoda) and Kenobi had failed to do. That was also never told to Luke.

[@masterquan4891]

Luke was trained as the last Jedi of the old order at the time by Obi-Won and Yoda, thus in his eyes he was the last trained Jedi. He was also able to stand up to Vader without any fear which was quite a feat considering his limited training with both masters and he didn't die, all others perished.

[@ingra888]

Luke was kind of half trained he was too old started late! Of all Ahsoka represents what a true Jedi should be, she served with Yoda, served with other Jedi masters of different skills and learned much in her time to know that the Jedi order deviated from the way!

[@Gamerafighter76]

Eeyup

[@Gamerafighter76]

@@ingra888I agree.

[@urekmazino6800]

She didn't even get past being a padawan​@@ingra888

[@anonymoususer5055]

As you said, the truth is that Lucas wrote it as Luke being the last Jedi. If you want to retcon, though, it is much easier and more logical to say Yoda lied to Luke so he would fulfil his destiny and become a Jedi despite the short training.

[@janmos5178]

Good.

[@ValiaEstri]

Have to roll my eyes at this video. Lucas wrote this in the early 80s. These characters didn't come until much later.

[@Transilvanian90]

@@ValiaEstri Yup; I get retconning and some of his arguments make sense, others like the sanctity of life thing... bit less, considering Luke's bodycount after he destroyed the Death Star

[@zedbruh7212]

I agree that Luke is the last jedi and that its consistant with new "canon Yoda was the last jedi master and luke was the last student regardless of other force users, luke is the last disciple of the jedi order

[@olgak.1139]

​@@zedbruh7212 What about Anakin that gave the last lesson to Ashoka and completed her training? Does it count,l wonder.

[@jamesmeeks4852]

So in a sense, Yoda wasn't wrong, he only spoke from his understanding of The Force at the time, and from what The Force revealed to him. He said exactly what he was supposed to say.

[@Badboyben1422]

My problem always with the line from Yoda was the whole sentence, "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." To me it can be interpreted in two ways and only because of one word, Jedi. As we know the word Jedi is both singular and plural. I know sometimes there are a few people who say, Jedis with a different dialect or accent, but sticking to the point. Since Jedi can be both singular and plural you can then interpret Yoda's sentence, as in Luke is the Last Jedi as Yoda probably believes all the other Jedi are dead or that they have forgotten who they are and now live normal lives. Or, that Luke is now part of the handful of Jedi that are left and with Yoda's death, their numbers still dwindle, yet Yoda can still sense the other Jedi in the galaxy and is in a way telling Luke to not forget about them.

[@bobfg3130]

You won't forget you're a Jedi.

[@alexandercampbell2697]

​@@bobfg3130 Forgotten doesn't necessarily mean to literally forget. It could be as simple as just abandoning the path. Cal did it for a time when he was in hiding, Bode did it, the inquisitors did it and most famously Vader did it

[@show9838]

The reason Yoda said Luke was the last Jedi was because back in 1983 ahsoka, kanan Ezra and Cal didn't exist yet but I do like fun theories that add and explain the history and retcons. I do wish Disney would stop treating Luke so bad though in favor of the new characters. In my opinion Luke has been done do dirty these last few years I would like for him to have a comeback. Maybe a tales of the jedi episode that shows his badassness idk but I honestly feel Luke is being pushed aside and it's sad because he was one of favorite jedi

[@alecjackman2655]

The vision of the grand inquisitor knighting Kanen was a vision conjured by Yoda making it so that in a way Yoda was the one to actually knighted Kanen. Besides, Kanen being a knight shouldn’t contradict the lore since Kanen was dead by the time of ROTJ.

[@edocsil1635]

Yoda didnt conjure that vision. It was just a vision Kanan got when he was at a jedi temple. Yoda doesn't have the ability to create visions like that

[@NovaeGal]

The force knighted kanan same as it did cal, even yoda couldn't argue with that

[@alecjackman2655]

@@NovaeGal There’s a segment on Wookieepedia that addresses that it was Yoda’s doing “After the Pau'an's death over Mustafar, the former Jedi Grand Master Yoda utilized a vision of the Grand Inquisitor as his former Jedi Temple Guard self to appear before Jarrus in the Jedi Temple on Lothal”

[@aaronlopez5163]

@@NovaeGalagain though kanen was dead by the time of ANH snd cal gave up on his title of jedi while also being in an entirely isolated part of the galaxy, a part of the galaxy which yoda likely was never able to project himself to which would mean that to yoda cal was presumed either dead or he gave up his connection to the force.

[@thaddeusbeadle6546]

​@@alecjackman2655wookiepedia isn't official and is written by fans.

[@loudboy317]

With Ezra, I can see why Yoda doesn't see him as a Jedi. Ezra was born around the same time that Palpatine destroyed the Jedi order and turned the Republic into the Empire. Ezra never had a chance to be raised and trained by the Jedi like Kanan, Ahsoka, and Cal have. It doesn't matter if these 3 individuals don't see themselves as Jedi because in Palpatine's eyes, they ARE jedi and will see to it that they are eliminated just like the rest. Yoda wasn't lying when he told Luke that he was the last Jedi because by the time he said that, Kanan was already dead, Ezra was trapped on Peridea, Ahsoka was trapped on Malachor, and god knows where Cal is.

[@audience2]

I hope Cal Kestis was alive and well.

[@Ringking-ws7bz]

yoda also is protecting survivors by not telling Luke who has a link with vader. he can tell Obi wan but not Luke yet

[@InfiniteNaos]

I think Yoda was mentioning a true Jedi trained in the old traditional ways as well as keeping to the Jedi code, at least as far as one can go in this point in time. Obiwan helped Luke with blade combat while Yoda helped with tapping into the force. Kanaan is a true Jedi but is dead by this point, Ezra was at Peridia plus trained outside the confines of the Order, and both Cal and Ahsoka were ronin operating differently than Yoda’s view of a Jedi. One was more of a rogue while the other renounced the title. One key bit of information in the novel of ROTJ is that both ObiWan and Yoda still had the old order mentality of eliminating someone that’s too far gone. All throughout the fight between Luke and Vader both ObiWan and Yoda were telling Luke to strike down his father that he was too far gone to be redeemed. They were both proven wrong in the very end when Anakin fulfilled the prophesy.

[@InfiniteNaos]

@@VerticalBlank If anything Dooku did have the right idea, but went about solving the problems the wrong way by radically challenging the Republic and the Order. The Jedi labeled him as a radical idealist because they couldn’t see that they themselves were apart of the problem in the galaxy. In a way henchmen of the Republic to subjugate rather than assist and help the galaxy and serve the force. I at least can understand why the Jedi wanted to make sure any natural born force users can be trained in the Light so that no more Sith can be made, by Legends standards, yet in the end they didn’t give the children a choice if they wanted to be a Jedi or not. At least Luke did have a choice after his encounter with Vader on Bespin. He almost called it there of renouncing his way of the Jedi, but he didn’t. After his mechanical hand he continued his training in both blade work and the force realizing that if he didn’t try then there wouldn’t have been anyone else. In his mind that was the case before realizing he had a sister.

[@InfiniteNaos]

@@VerticalBlank In Tales of the Jedi you can see how Dooku didn’t like what the Republic was doing to their own civilians. Maybe not all of them were corrupt, but a good amount of representatives were money hungry. It’s very similar to what happened between Cham Syndulla and Senator Taa. Dooku did delve into the Dark a few times due to the hate of corruption. If you saw into the later episodes Qui-Gon was the last reason for Dooku to remain in the Light. He saw him as a son and now that he was gone Dooku didn’t see any reason to remain in the Order. Interestingly, Dooku was the most political out of any Jedi mainly for the people’s rights and liberations from the corrupt senate. Now going to the idea if Qui-Gon was still alive well then Dooku more than likely would’ve stayed with the Order and if either he or Qui-Gon or both taught Anakin then he could’ve been unbeatable in his blade work as well as furthering his connection in the force exponentially more than just with ObiWan alone. Pretty much the Sith Grand Plan would’ve stopped at Sidious maybe even before the Clone Wars.

[@dhdusidjdjso]

@@VerticalBlank They do not abduct younglings. They let the parents decide, and if they say no they leave them alone

[@adeptus-1118]

​@@InfiniteNaosHence why the duel of fates was so important.

[@InfiniteNaos]

@@dhdusidjdjso It was considered abduction because many parents only had maybe 1 or 2 years to spend with their children before they were taken. Now in Legends the Sith weren’t shy to force sensitive child abduction or even what Cad Bane did under a Jedi robe disguise. Even the Bardottan people considered the Orders ways of inducting children into the ways of the Jedi as abduction.

[@antwan1357]

I have an idea , what if Yoda wanted Luke to believe he was the last Jedi , because he believed in a chance that Luke might turn to the dark side . Thus preventing him from potentially harming any hiding jedi.

[@justinschulz2124]

Agreed

[@JohnKerbaugh]

Scarcity of Jedi was an important part of the jeopardy in taking on Darth Vader. Even when it was hinted that Leia could be force capable it was limited intentionally.

[@vintifada7115]

He was super close after all. He used raw negative emotion to strike Vader down and cut off his robotic hand

[@Growly.]

No

[@regal7677]

As a force casual, I think the title of Jedi is overrated. If one is force sensitive, has good intentions, and is formally trained in said force, that is all that matters. The title of Jedi can kick rocks. "In order for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing" - Benjamin Franklin

[@zeldamaster702]

Canon: Ashoka had relinquished the title of “Jedi” prior to the rise of the Empire. Kanan and Cal had never fully graduated past the point of Padawan and thus never fully graduated to the ranks commonly associated with being a Jedi. Ezra never had what could be considered a real “Master” since Kanan never officially ascended past Padawan. So while technically all are proficient in Jedi arts and in use of the Force, none are technically what would be considered a “Jedi”. Real world: None of the characters existed in 1983 when RotJ released and the stories were written as if they never would. One of the issues with Lucas writing the franchise like Yoda speaks.

[@notarapper04]

Kanan was knighted by Yoda/The Grand Inquisitor

[@yodaman5738]

Kanan got knighted the vision was created by Yoda so that makes him a Jedi but Kanan died before RotJ

[@ScoptOriginal]

Anakin was Asoka's master while not being an actual master

[@aracelymoran2504]

+ @zeldamaster702 Your side note is very important. In the context of when the movie was made, Luke WAS the last. When they made Clone Wars and later Rebels, those words are now in doubt, like "he told Luke what he wanted to hear" and BS like that. Originally, that is how Yoda was written to say and meant it.

[@stevena.7022]

It's crazy to insist all these projects are related.

[@Dazzle_Novak_]

I can't say Cal was a ruthless killer to his enemies. He spared Second Sister, turned Merrin to his side, tried to reason Ninth Sister, Dagan and Bode, even Taron Malikos and Rayvis. Yet every time he hits the wall, they try to kill him and he's forced to strike them down. Remember that even cutting Ninth Sister's arm didn't stopped her, unlike Vader who chose to loose to Luke (don't even debate me that Luke was as strong as prime Vader, he could've crushed the entire throne room with the force if he wanted to) His treatment to fodder meat however... Let's just say he does what is necessary to survive, if that means leaving no witnesses.

[@richv1893]

Yoda was only right about Luke being the last Jedi as far as the old order was concerned. Yoda was completely wrong about the others as they had to adapt to survive for the jedi order to one day thrive.

[@SabreArchon]

Not really since Luke wasn’t of the Old Order. Luke wasn’t trained under the Old Order. He was a Jedi yes, but belonged to no order until he founded his own. Cal on the other hand was of the Old Order.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Nobody could expect torrent of Disney crap "Jedi", not even Yoda 😆

[@raionfavorites]

Ashoka didn't considered herself a Jedi, but she was the last Jedi to pass her trial and to be recognized as a knight by the fulll Jedi Council before the Order 66. Even with all her shades of gray, I like to think she is the Last Old School Jedi, and Luke is the First New School Jedi.

[@DerektheMenace]

This exactly! In addition Ahsoka defeated Maul on Mandalore and numerous inquisitors during the years before Yavin. In my opinion, she had the most Old School Jedi training and experience but she recognized that the order was not her place and that showed how much she was guided by the actual light side instead of the Order. In many ways she was similar to Qui-Gon but she might have been more attuned after The Daughter resurrected her on Mortis. There are some who theorize that she is the new avatar of the light side in mortal form.

[@raionfavorites]

@@DerektheMenace I love this hypotesis!

[@yetherapperreacts]

When the real reason is because they didn’t exist yet😂

[@mister_meat30]

I agree, Yoda didn't really appear to be such a stick in the mud about the Jedi institution when he was with Luke. So I say this theory's conclusion on Yoda's perception of Luke being the last Jedi is invalid.

[@wyoboy01]

The problem with Yoda and Obi-Wan's thinking is that was exactly the mindset that got the old Order wiped out. Their old ways didn't sit with Luke and he found the third alternative that saved Anakin from the Dark Side whereas they thought Luke or Vader had to die.

[@Ringking-ws7bz]

Well we dont know what was in Yodas mind cause he felt a need to be a crazy hermit to frustrait Luke and I bet only hand full know Grogu was alive

[@Bas-TB]

@@Ringking-ws7bzI guess Yoda had massive PTSD.

[@robertfarr9186]

Most likely because these characters were not written into the series when yoda kicked off… just like future characters who haven’t been created yet

[@stevena.7022]

No. You are supposed to contrive some increasingly absurd explanation to reconcile all these projects in your head canon. You are doing Star Wars wrong!

[@gloriousginger]

🤣🤣🤣

[@HeadIn_TheClouds]

​@@stevena.7022lol

[@LaneyTheOne]

Ashoka never did actually return to the order

[@MicahMane]

Ah yes. The fun answer.

[@stevenreeves9092]

I disagree about Yoda being arrogant. He was not perfect, and he followed the best path he could.

[@MrLordvoid]

Cal in my opinion is a jedi sentinel on the edge on being a grey jedi

[@RaindropsBleeding]

I've always considered Ahsoka one of the few who truly upheld the ways of the jedi. in fact it's quite telling that she was able to heal a bleeding kyber crystal. but yes, we should respect her wish not to be called a jedi

[@俺は誰でもない]

she abandoned the rules of the jedi and does not follow them. although a lot of her beliefs align with the jedi she makes her own choices based on her own judgement, not by the jedi code.

[@kylerobison1425]

The Jedi is a cult and you’re not supposed to be attached to things like cults. It’s weird that none of them ever noticed this.

[@Gonger02]

She is not real

[@batbutonfire]

poniessssss!!!!!

[@MrDsleepyeyes]

I remember reading one of the old EU novels a long time ago where Kenobi lets Luke know that he is the Last of the old Jedi... and first of the new Jedi.

[@dragonfly_86]

Yoda and Obi One passed on the majority of their knowledge and training to Luke. He was the only one of the group to have completed his training with actual Jedi at this time. Ashoka kind of finished her training when she learnt her last lesson from Anikan.

[@ivanceja2153]

It’s hard to say for Cal since Cere was a Jedi master already before the purge and didn’t she knight cal?

[@dahak2358]

Formally, by the Old Jedi standarts, she wasn't a Jedi anymore at this point. The order was quite unforgiving about any deviations from the rules, and this one specifically was considered to be irreversible.

[@estebanquinones5918]

Since she "lost her connection to the force" then technically according to the "traditional" jedi ways blah blah blah she wouldn't be considered a jedi anymore.

[@Paladonald]

I'm probably gonna sound stupid here but wouldn't Cal be considered a true jedi knight too as Cere knighted him towards the end of Fallen order? Also the same for Kanun/Caleb as he was knighted too

[@Paladonald]

@ReconViper1 Thank you for clarifying I'd forgotten I asked this question

[@martychisnall]

First off Kanan was long dead by this point, Ahsoka had left the order and admitted herself she’s not a Jedi, Ezra was stuck in another Galaxy and presumed dead and Cal we don’t know but definitely was a Jedi. Other Jedi apart from Yoda and Obi-Wan had survived Order 66 in both canon and legends.

[@noahmarshall873]

yeah idk why Kanan is even in this discussion considering how long he'd been dead by then. also I'll be shocked if Cal survives the next Jedi game

[@tonyyao4785]

@@noahmarshall873Cal is either dead , or like Ezra, in the Unknown regions or exploring wherever regions Tanalorr is located. Kanan is dead, and Ahsoka is MIA and would still not help given if she did help Luke in ROTJ, she would just piss Vader off. There’s a reason why Luke is still special.

[@michaelhviper]

In Legends, Luke did certain things different. He was not as strict about some aspects which made sense as during the time of the Old Republic the Jedi had lost their way. But as for my opinions, Ezra was out of the Galaxy so I agree with you that there was no contact with him. He didn't know whether he was still alive or not. Kanan was dead at this point. I don't think he knew Grogu survived. (Even though he wasn't mentioned here.) As for Ahsoka she doesn't see herself as a jedi. She may see herself as a grey Jedi or her own type of force user, though in the clone wars around the end Yoda seemed accepting of her. So maybe it's an open door to her to be a Jedi again if she wished. So I think if she chose to go through a knighting ceremony followed by the trials he would have seen her as one. Provided she chose to and found a way off of Malacore by that time to do so. As for Kal, he didn't attempt the trials or have a knighting ceremony. Yoda wasn't in contact with him at least not during the events of Fallen Order. This may have changed during the time of Jedi Survivor I haven't played the sequel yet so I may be wrong about a few things there. But getting back to what I said, Luke may be more open to seeing them as Jedi if he's not as strict. He's not Yoda so he may show more leeway. Especially since he didn't experience the trials himself or have a knighting ceremony. He knighted himself after refusing the darkside. It's basically a genesis thing, he's the first of the new, not the last of the old. Remember many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

[@Spumoon]

1:40 funny how plugging one leak causes another, because if this is true there's really no reason for Luke to have died in episode 8. Yoda was casually projecting himself through the Force at what, 800 years old? Living much the same lifestyle that hermit Luke was. Imagining Rian Johnson giggling like a maniac while he makes Mark Hamill do this seveneth green milk guzzling take before just casually killing him off for no reason at all is mildly infuriating.

[@shamusatha4700]

I always wondered why the sith and jedi made holocrons that connect to each other considering they mortal enemys you would of thought they would never let the enemy get into their knowledge

[@ultrashadow9551]

Despite Kanan being dead and Ezra being in a different galaxy by the time of Return Of The Jedi they were as true of Jedi as you could get by the end of Rebels.

[@sulwhale3171]

True

[@ShasPlace2]

Exactly. Yoda oversaw both their trials. That's why he had Kanan knighted and allow Ezra to get his very own kyber Crystal, and Yoda did it all from his home. He's too cool😎

[@leadnsteel1428]

Kanan was like Obi Wan. He would have been a great Jedi.

[@SKBottom]

Great video. I have to disagree on one point. Obi-Wan and Yoda were absolutely right to tell Luke to stay out of the fight on Bespin. If you look at the actual events of the movie, his interference made absolutely no difference. In fact, Leia and co. had to break off their escape and go back just to rescue him.

[@benjbk]

I think it is more unfair to assume that Yoda was close-minded based on some after-the-fact retcons. He DID mention Lea as a possible replacement for Luke, should he fail. And she wasn't trained by anybody. It's not like he didn't learn anything from the mistakes the Jedi made before their fall.

[@TheCloneTrooperJedi]

Yoda wasn't closed minded by ANH, Obi-Wan was the closed minded one by ANH. I'm starting to believe there's another force-user (Not Qui-Gon or anyone we've met before) that Yoda encounters during exile that pushes him back to traditional Jedi philosophy, and perhaps Yoda, but not Obi-Wan, recognizes as an immediate second option should Luke fail and the Death Star stayed operational, as their wouldn't be time to train Leia up enough to beat any of the 3 Sith.

[@BennyBigIron]

I actually prefer the last sentiment you brought up, at that point when Yoda said those things, Ashoka was not technically a Jedi, Kanan was dead, Ezra was MIA, and as of now we don’t know where Cal was at that point. I like to believe that Yoda gained a level of clarity in the Force on Dagobah that he hadn’t been able to achieve during the time of the Republic and the fog of the Clone Wars. And that by then he would’ve seen the new Jedi as the future of his fallen order. After all I think it would be arrogant for us to say that Luke was the only one at that time who wasn’t struggling to be a Jedi. He faced his own pull to the dark side and his own challenges, but I think I would say that both Ezra and Cal at least had faced enough challenges in their own struggles to become Jedi, that they could be considered knights who faced their trials. Ezra sacrificed over a decade of time with his friends to save countless lives on Lothal and possibly billions elsewhere in the galaxy from Thrawn’s might. And Cal had fought Vader and survived and also helped a fallen Jedi see the light just before her death, and he saved possibly hundreds of younglings from the Inquisitorious by destroying that holocron. But while all that is true, Yoda might have thought them dead by that point. I like that version so that’s my head canon now.

[@mrbushido56]

Ahsoka should join luke. He can be the leader of a new era while she ensures he doesnt follow the mistakes of the last

[@merikano2985]

I think this video is overthinking it. George had no idea what Star War's future would be like decades later. And DF having Baylan refer to Ezra as a Bokan is an unrealistic attempt to come up with an excuse for that line. Things become clearer when you're dead or close to dying, thirty years after Yoda gives that line he shows up as a Force ghost and calls down some lightning burning a tree and all the jedi texts Luke had collected. Which is one of my all time favorite scenes in Star Wars. As for the bodycount thing - Kanan was knighted and Ezra was recognized as his padawan. They killed a lot of white guys and destroyed a lot of ships, but so did Luke. He's the kid who blew up the Death Star. He also didn't defeat the Emperor, his dad did that. It took balls to redeem Anakin and in a technicality he did defeat the Sith Vader by doing that. But sparring Vader isn't anything new. Obi Wan beat Vader twice, the second time purposefully sparing him knowing full well what Vader would go on to do afterward. Then he and Yoda later egg on Luke to kill Vader and the Emperor in order for to become a Jedi Knight? What insane logic is that? This video is a mess with plot holes and a lot of that is on the fault of Disney and its newest stuff but, I'm just going to go with Yoda was going senile in his old age and for a moment thought Luke really was the last one. That makes more sense than all of these excuses being thrown around.

[@bibouley2459]

so right

[@starwarsminimow]

I cant believe no one picked up on the "what he said was true from a certain point of view" at 0:33 😂😂😂

[@Gamestar006]

I honestly think it is the direct opposite. Yoda considers Luke to be a Jedi not becouse he is stuck in the old way, but rather because he is not anymore. After all that happened, Yoda went to exule because, as he said "failed i have". The old jedi order wasn't a jedi order at all. They were no peacekeepers, they were basicly warriors. And all the other jedi were trained by the old ways. Luke on the other hand was different. He was the guy who was willing to risk anything to save his friends, who sacreficed his family, his life, all of it, just to bring the galaxy peace. Realise how yoda didn't spend one second in training Luke with the lightsaber? How Yoda doesn't even have one anymore? The Jedi failed because the sith changed. From dumb warriors to extremly tactical players, who sneak in the shadows and got spys everywhere. Yoda knew that the jedi needed to change to and Luke was exactly what he was looking for.

[@chadflanaganCFC]

There's an argument to be made that Yoda's reason for not telling Luke isn't because he didn't consider the other four force sensitives Jedi. Me I subscribe to Yoda doing a Master Roshi and telling Luke what he needed to hear to strive to be a better Jedi, Luke could of went into Jabba's palace or the Second Death Star thinking "it's ok if I get defeated here then the other four have this." stifling his growth whereas if he thought he was the last surviving Jedi then he'd fight with everything he could and continue trying to strengthen himself, and his ideals.

[@xNihfonosx]

I get Ahsoka because of her real separation from the order. Kanan was technically only a padawan when Order 66 happened and that set him on a different course. But he still somehow basically became a Jedi master in Rebels to Ezra, who definitely seems like a Jedi to me by all accounts, which is the most confusing out of everything here. He might not have been trained at the temple on Coruscant, but he did have a LOT of experience at various ancient Jedi temples and SITH temples too. Ezra is the one that doesn’t make much sense because he’s full Jedi material, while Kanan was absolutely acting as a Jedi Master himself even with the order gone. Maybe Yoda just didn’t know about them, but still.. I mean he sensed that Leia was one and she hardly had any action or Jedi training at all. So why did he not sense Kanan and Ezra, especially when they faced off against Maul and Vader - and how did Kanan become a master alone in the wild? that I don’t understand

[@ShasPlace2]

In rebels, Kanan took Ezra to the temple in Lothal to go thrift the trials. Yoda, not only put Extra thru his trials to become an official Padawan but he also tested Kanan as well. Both of them passed. Yoda, they the force Knighted Kanan and Ezra became an official Padawan by receiving his very own kyber Crystal. It's in the rebels, I think it's in season 2. But Yoda made them both official, thru the force, in the Jedi temple Ezra found on Lothal. It's cool because the force led him to the temple. Watch season one, I think that's when he first found the temple.

[@GisselBadminton]

Yoda said it because George Lucas had not created Ahsoka, cal, kanen and ezra when the movie came out

[@Flipindabird23]

Thank you lmao; people trying to fill plot holes made by shitty planning, and lack of hindsight/foresight gets on my nerves. Sometimes it can be fun, but not when the studios blatantly don’t give a fuck. Knowing we’ll patch their lack of care for the source material with our passion for the franchise.

[@tidela4714]

This is the out of universe reasoning. The video is trying to find an in universe one

[@janmos5178]

I can understand those who write that other Jedi were not there during the OT because Lucas determined so, but he himself later allowed in the old EU for Jedi who survived Order 66, such as Qu Rahn, Kam Solusar (padawan), Empatojayos Brand and a few others. Apparently, by the way, Yoda's death was Marquand's idea, not Lucas'.

[@NagromMit1]

Ahsoka is a Jedi in all but name. She was about to be knighted but walked away. So she is knight level in skill and as far as the trials are concerned. Basically Ahsoka just walked away without claiming her Degree.

[@randallsanchez3161]

Ahsoka = Padawan. It was confirmed she never finished her training. This is even brought up in the "time between worlds" episode. She also left the order. Ezra = Padawan trained by a Padawan. He never completed his training either as a Jedi. Maul taught him a bit but that was all Sith stuff. Kanan = Dead. Cal = Padawan. I mean for gods sake, did everyone forget he was just a kid when Order 66 happened? Luke = only one to finish his training by a Jedi Master. Also note, even Kenobi stated to Yoda in ESB, "There goes our last hope." Of course Yoda announces that there is one other which was Leia.

[@VestedUTuber]

Ahsoka = light-sided independent. Remember, she left the order entirely. Kanan = Was knighted in a Force vision... oddly enough by the past version of the temple guard who eventually became the Grand Inquisitor. Not sure if this counts or not, it probably doesn't officially but does as far as the Force itself cares. Still dead though.

[@Barfitlegriff]

Cal was knighted by Cere.

[@onbehalfofenokithecat]

To be fair to ahsoka, she was offered the title of jedi knight. She turned it down and left the order.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well, Cal and Ahsoka didn't count in his mind since they didn't align or identify with the Jedi ways and Code, nor title. Kanan died rather early on in regards to the timeline of the Empire so, he wouldn't have been alive during Yoda's mental count. Luke was the only Force User actively training in the Jedi Arts, and accepting the title of Jedi as it was known before the Purge.

[@BrokeAssCollector]

They didn't count his mind because he didn't freaking exist All you guys talking about these post Jedi characters as if they were originally created when this story was they didn't even exist yet fools

[@anubisfighterr]

In my opinion Yoda was a contradiction, he was both wise and foolish. He acknowledged that the Jedi needed to change but still stubbornly held on to the dogmatic practices that led to the downfall of the Order.

[@royboy8047]

Yoda said what he said because at the time of writing those lines he was in fact the only Jedi. Go figure Lucas did not plan for characters wrote 40ish years later.

[@andrewc31394]

6:59 yeah I'm sorry but you couldn't be more incorrect. Cal avoided taking as many lives as possible in every cutscene, even when fighting the the Inuisitor sister (can't remember her name).

[@usveteran9893]

I think that we have to keep in mind that George Lucas wrote this story about the Skywalkers. It was supposed to be centered around the Skywalkers and I think that explains it all.

[@PsychedelicDude]

I just like to think that by the time of ROTJ, Yoda hadn't been in contact with anyone else in years, so as far as he knew, Luke was the only one left. And/or he just told Luke what he needed to hear.

[@duaneherndon6736]

I think Yoda lied, He told Luke what he needed to beat Vader, Luke needed to face Vader himself, to get over the mental block of his father being Vader and face the fact alone

[@elijahcesar4149]

So basically in technicality.. IT DIDNT MATTER THE JUDGEMENT OF SOMEONE OF YODA OR EVEN OBI WANS on whether or not if you should be knighted or granted mastery... cause IF THEY WERE THE ALLY and literally tryna represent the force.. theyd let the force decide and flow thru them if someone like kanan.. ezra.. kal or even ahsoka should be knighted or masters.. all guys like yoda from that time of the order was the order of jedi that was a teaching STRUCTURE that so happen to use the force at a high level... but THE PROBLEM WAS THEIR STRUCTURE.. mindset.. and how they judged how a padawan jedi youngling should be elevated was the problem... picking them up as children to make it absolute they wont fall was the fall alone.. CAUSE LUKE WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE on why the age matters not..AND HE BECAME THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL... so its like yoda mindset on how he sees on what a TRUE JEDI is.. is a flaw.. its like this " old heads always talking bout back in the day of what works then should be a thng now.. when us youngins know that shit is played out and doesnt work that way anymore because we shown a different pathway on how to do the same thing but differently... you just stuck in your ways... doesnt mean the ways of old is not prominent its just not needed asmuch you think it should"

[@mr.b.7244]

I always thought it was to protect the others. Luke was fully trained, but lacked the practice to keep all of his thoughts from Vader or Sidious. Which would be wise as he gives up his sister.

[@andrealipnicki7057]

I actually thought the same thing!

[@atraina6921]

Long story short : Lucas didn’t envision any other Jedi being alive at the time when the movie was made, but Disney and Filoni decided to retcon that. Let’s just call it like it is.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

I wonder if Cal Kestis at some point during his personal crusade met or knows about Ahsoka Tano

[@Blackdog1811]

He will

[@ronanwaring3408]

He's killing multiple inquisitors, wipeing out an entire ISB base's and killing a lot of troopers and bounty hunters I know it's a video game, but given how much trouble he's giving the empire, he has too be either well hidden or dea by ANH

[@darylsdesigns6679]

@@ronanwaring3408 well technically Cal only killed one Inquisitor but I see your point

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

He hasn't met ahsoka yet and possibly never will. But, it will be so cool if he does and she teaches him stuff. Maybe they could even go on a mission together.

[@gloriousginger]

The galaxy is a big place. Saul Garerra only met his end 24 hours before A.N.H. So, he may yet be alive.

[@bubkusjones]

From a certain point of view. That's the key phrase in Star Wars, and from a certain POV, Luke was the only living, active, light-aligned Jedi around that the last surviving Jedi Master and Council member considered to have completed their training.

[@joshkarren2698]

What do we learn from the Ahsoka series about being a Jedi. As Anakin said, "As Jedi, you need to adapt to the time". Their trials are unique to each individual and so is their path through the force. Any thoughts?

[@joshkarren2698]

@DMTELE-GRAMTHESTUPENDOUS-ms9ci hi hello?

[@FirestoneAnimation]

The reason Cal isn't as merciful as Kanan or Ezra is because ever since the age of a padawan, all he knew was that he was another weapon in an unrelenting war. That's why he can't even walk away from fighting even when he has the choice to do so. All he ever knew was fighting.

[@marekb1556]

Im pretty behind on the lore since all I know is from the games, but wasn't cal hiding since Tapal died? The whole fallen order plot is him remembering his training as a padawan

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

Question, does what Anakin did for Ahsoka qualify as her Knighting? Or is it just good to move on from that paradigm and establish a more pragmatic Order of Force Users?

[@Jdp_1597]

Considering Kanan was knighted in a memory I’d take it as a knighting but I think she’s better as a Ronin

[@Justin-kk9ir]

Ultimately it’s because those characters hadn't been imagined yet when the line was written and recorded.

[@trevorwinn5012]

I also believe Yoda thought Luke was the only one potentially strong enough in the force to defeat Vader and Palpatine

[@OrangeHatReviews]

Ultimately, Yoda said what he said because those other characters do not exist. Only in the Filoniverse do they exist, I prefer the EU prior to 2008, with Plagueis novel getting an 90% exception. I say 90% due to the change of Maul's origin, he was originally found in Iridonia and not Dathomir. Interesting video. But I still prefer the older tales as they were better told and more consistent.

[@seanhartel5362]

Because they didn’t exist when they wrote Yoda’s lines 😂😂

[@sportsfisher9677]

Exactly 💯

[@Cremig]

No shit Sherlock

[@seanhartel5362]

@@Cremig Star Wars lore is so silly. Its advocates are even more silly.

[@thegrandpodunk2111]

@@seanhartel5362Star Wars lore is literally just people finding ways to make sense of George Lucas’ insanity.

[@knowledgeuntamed9177]

Asoka i believe is in Yoda's universe, and hopefully they tie that in with Mandalorian and Grogu now that Asoka is there. Mandalorian and Kanan pry gonna work together which...awesome.

[@markmagician2471]

Yoda was aware of Ezra he was telepathically talking and helping him with getting his kyber crystal and Yoda spoke to Kanan

[@LoveJellyfish_1996]

It’s really not that hard to understand you guys , Luke: Then I am a Jedi Yoda: not yet one thing remains , Vader you must confront Vader , then a Jedi you will be That in itself was Luke being knighted by Yoda himself ahead of time IFFFF he completes his fight

[@smartalec2001]

It's interesting that Luke was trained in some very simple spiritual basics and techniques, and wasn't saddled with the Jedi Code and all that stuff. Obi-Wan and Yoda simply trained him to connect to the Force, and that was that. Was it that Yoda recognised all this stuff was getting in the way, and saw Luke's back-to-basics training as purer than the others?

[@mlo009]

Luke has a pure soul, he is chosen by Obi and Yoda to be the one to guide the new line of Jedi. The others like Cal and Ezra had seen too much shit in the galaxy (not of their own fault), surviving each day is a dogfight.

[@Josh-dr3fj]

I think he said that because at the time that scene was shot, none of those other charachters existed lol. Kinda hard to account for what isnt there to begin with.

[@AndrewJamesWilliams]

I figure that Yoda was just referring to the old orthodox Jedi way that the order adhered to for the last thousand years of its existence. Ezra, Ahsoka and Cal are all more like a much older type of Jedi.

[@stanaccountm9502]

I love that you didn't gender yoda because no one knows for sure what's lurking under that sexy little robe

[@nomarxistspls90]

yoda is male.@@stanaccountm9502

[@BM-wh5qk]

Yoda is a man's muppet.

[@chadbrochill19]

From reading lots of comments, I think people misinterpret what it means to be a Jedi. A Jedi is a narrow term like the Sith. They are both groups of force users but they also believe in a specific dogma and usually act with a certain code. That's it. One can leave the Jedi way / Order (even if it's been destroyed such as RotJ when Yoda makes this claim.) He sees himself as the last Jedi, a member of the Jedi Order that had stood for 10,000 year. He follows the dogma / code and lives with those ideals and passes them on to Luke or the philosophy he retains in that current era. -- Could Luke had been trained in the Force and not been a Jedi? Absolutely. There are many force traditions that are within the Galaxy, although the Jedi being the most prominent with in respect of their relationship with the Galactic Republic / Empire (Sith). Just because Yoda said Luke was the last of the Jedi didn't mean there weren't other candidates to become Jedi, just that from there on, it would be up to Luke to carry on the tradition from Master to Apprentice, which is what the Jedi had practiced. From what we know of there quite a few established Force Organizations in cannon (some are left undetermined in Legends), however you wouldn't call these individuals 'Jedi" even if they represented similar ideals or philosophies. It's simply from Yoda's perspective that Luke is the 'official' last Jedi, which of course Yoda being the Grand Master of the Jedi Order, it makes sense with this logic.

[@TheDeathmail]

The real reason??? Simple, when the scene was written, Luke really was the real last Jedi.....

[@fixipszikon6670]

Because Ahsoka left the Order and Lucas told Filoni that she must die before ROTS, so she is dead, and the others do not exist in the Lucas Universe, only in the alternate disney crap universe. There. Explained it in less than a minute.

[@doctorwyvern9992]

I think it was best that these other characters were not considered Jedi the way Yoda or anyone else who was part of that particular order believed. They followed rules that were too restrictive and ultimately caused their downfall. If these characters wanted to become Jedi like the previous order, they’d have to follow the same rigid guidelines that proved to be detrimental. But I’m pretty sure everyone here watching this already knows all that.

[@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922]

Cal I believe died before Yoda said “when gone I am last of the Jedi you will be” also Kanan straight up died before then. Ashoka IS NOT A JESI DO NOT CALL HER ONE SHE IS NOT A JEDI! Remember when Kanan and Ezra were trying to open the Jedi temple on Lothal she sat out of trying to open it specifically because she’s not a Jedi! She said she’s not a Jedi! Ezra on the other hand ya that’s not good it breaks what Yoda said BYT NO ONE ELSE DOES! Don’t give the whole boken Jedi shit don’t just don’t because Luke didn’t get trained in the same structure. DO NOT DO NOT OH MY GOSH DO NOT GIVE ME EZRA WAS OUT OF THE GALAXY AND THEREFORE YODA COULDN’T SENSE HIM SHIT THATS NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS! Also do not do not go the whole do not kill shit do not kill shit and Ezra kills cal kills etc DO NOT NOT WHEN YODA ASKED LUKE TO KILL VADER LUKE WAS ASKED TO KILL DARTH VADER! I think the only reason Yoda said what he said was because OH GOSH DO I HOPE CAL IS DEAD BY NOW! Ashoka not a Jedi. Kanan is dead. Now Ezra we’ll that’s just POINTLESS STUPID RETCONS TERRIBLE STUPID POINTLESS RETCONS RETCONS THAT NEVER AHOULD HAVE HAPPENED ALL WHATSOEVER!

[@gabrielcarrasco9078]

To be fair Kanan was probably closer to being a jedi. Cal definitely isnt considering he ised guns. Taps into tge dark side. Granted he still has a lot of jedi traits.

[@InfiniteNaos]

It’s considered that Cal is similar to Ahsoka with the title of Jedi Ronin. He was knighted by Cere, but didn’t operate by the traditional rules of a Jedi.

[@guneytopal7076]

I mean you could consider Cal as a Grey Jedi of sorts. They did use the dark side but for the greater good. As for guns,

[@KingShibe]

​@@guneytopal7076grey jedi are not a thing.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@KingShibesure they “Where” before, than the Order pushed them out .

[@InfiniteNaos]

@@KingShibe It’s noted in Legends that out of every Jedi that was present in the Order the Grey Jedi hated ObiWan the most. He was the equivalent of the “corporate yes man.” ObiWan rarely said anything that went against the councils decisions. Though he did have a seat with them he didn’t say anything that would arise any debates or question any sort of rules. That’s why Qui-Gon refused a seat on the council even though he was considered a master. He was a maverick within the Order and followed the guidance of the force rather than getting in line and following orders given by the Republic. So yes Grey Jedi were a thing before the Order pushed them out and had them banished.

[@maree2x72]

Yoda call Luke the last Jedi because at that point in the Star Wars story, he was the last Jedi. Every surviving Jedi came after the original series. It's simply the fact that as the Star Wars world expanded a couple of things from the original series became potholes or were got retconned. In fact, the entire original series was from the mind of George Lucas, most Jedi, who we found out about in the recent years, are not George Lucas characters. I'm sure someone is going to say I am not fun or whatever. But I just don't understand the point in trying to throw our own logic as Star Wars fans into the mythos to try to explain or justify something that doesn't need to be explained nor justified.

[@jillian4068]

I wonder if this could now be interpreted in context of who could end up bringing balance back to the force, per the prophecies. Anakin seemingly failed being the chosen one at the time, turning into Vader. Yoda and Obi-Wan had no belief in Anakin being redeemed, as this video stated. Yoda later said if Luke failed, there was another, specifically referring to Leia. Even though Yoda was aware of other force users, it seems like Yoda felt only someone in the Skywalker bloodline would be able to successfully bring balance back to the force. Luke eventually got Anakin to turn back, which did end up bringing the balance back to the force, at least in that specific time period.

[@richt63]

Actually I think Yoda didn't believe that they still existed. At this time Ezra Bridger was in another galaxy, Ahsoka considered herself not a jedi, kanan was dead, Cal was busy with a nightsister. So Luke Skywalker was the last genuine jedi. Great post ❤

[@EgoChip]

Palpatine was right when he said the Jedi's dogmatic and narrow view was weak. It lead to their arrogance and ultimate downfall, Palpatine didn't cause it, he merely exploited it. Luke should have started a new order, with new ways, learning from the mistakes of the past. The fact Yoda still failed to recognise the likes of Ezra and Ahsoka shows he didn't learn a thing from his failures.

[@janmos5178]

Fully agree, only that Palpatine did not want to recognize that the dogmatism of the Sith led and them to destruction including him.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Ofc someone who was inoculated in a religion that is centered on serving one's own desires would say that. The Sith parroted that dogma for millennia before Palpatine was ever born, so he's not some kind of sage for saying that.

[@georgeramos1462]

Wow! I think your evaluation of Yodas statement and possibly WHY is well thought out, and the best explanation I have ever heard. I enjoyed your "Knighting" ceremony thoughts of the old structure. It makes me think of Bruce Lee and the old Masters, how his new vision was right and the Kung Fu Council was wrong. (From a certain point of view) ;)

[@Akiraspin]

We all know the real answer is because none of these other Jedi existed and Disney retconned them all in without even bothering to realize that Yoda said Luke was the last of the Jedi.

[@michaelmische1433]

Nothing Disney does or says should be accepted as canon from anyone.

[@Badboyben1422]

"Other than Luke displayed the proper sanctity of life." while Luke, killed troopers on the Death Star to save Leia, destroyed the Death Star which killed millions, destroyed AT-AT's filled with troopers, force choked the Gamorrean guards, Force grabbed a gun to shoot Jabba in the face, slaughtered Jabba's men and told Leia to purposely point a giant gun at the deck to blow up Jabba's barge killing them all.

[@martingeerars9640]

Or perhaps Yoda just told Luke what he felt he needed to hear to face Vader again

[@SmayNakamoto]

I mean, or what he’s saying is true. Since Kannan was dead, Ezra was in another galaxy, and Cal also is very likely dead by this point, also Ashoka left the Jedi order and didn’t identify as Jedi at this point.

[@windstormstrike]

By your logic then, if Luke's last test was to defeat his own father, a Sith Lord, in order to become a Jedi then all "Jedi" in the Old Republic were not true "Jedi" then since Luke was given a higher standard by Yoda himself. Then this means Yoda was so out of it by the end of the old Jedi Order that he was handing out the title of "Jedi Knight" like candy to anyone who is force sensitive. Luke is the Only true Knight by the end of ROTJ and beyond.

[@moneygrabber6720]

I hate that after all these years more and more Jedi just keep popping up and there’s only small technicalities that make it that they weren’t “real” Jedi. Luke should’ve been the last standing Jedi for it to really mean something but now we find out there is dozens just hanging out 🙄

[@John_TalbainN]

I sometimes believe people make an exceptional effort to try to connect the dots and massive plot wholes. And I can't get rid of the feeling every piece of starwars info that is revealed in the sequels and series are bad quality bandaids to try to put all together as a last resort.

[@vortega472]

I really like this one, I really like your argument because it works on so many levels - the main one with the original films and how Luke was the last Jedi, and no others remain - and then you get Legends and current films/television/streaming projects with all these lightsaber wielding people who use the force and how it circles back. By using Yoda's eyes, you can see how the concept of only "One" Jedi can bind it all together. And I like that - I like how you explain it all and it works for me. I know from a certain fan standpoint - Luke being the only "Jedi" and then all these others appear, and it dilutes the original movies - but I disagree - as a fan. But this video gives valid argument where you can say that from Yoda's oopinion,he was right - Only Luke was the true Jedi - and the others can appear and give us entertainment. Thanks for this Stupendous Wave.

[@CL88able]

I agree with what you have said in this video. It is a pretty complex discussion to decide whether Ahsoka, Ezra, Kanan and Cal are really Jedi or force users whose moralities are more in line with Jedi... Their backgrounds makes it the most complicated, most particularly when talking about Ahsoka... Cal is certainly was trained by old ways Jedi at the beginning but, with how the world turned out... Can anybody really blame him for living in the manner he did? I would bet Jedi like Quinlan Vos, Obi Wan, Plo Koon and Luke definitely wouldn't blame them. Kanan and Ezra they would also not blame for living the way they did. This is pretty cheap of me to choose that they Ezra, Kanan, Cal and Ahsoka I would consider to be force users whose moralities are more in line with Jedi way with certain aspects of mind set that most certainly can be considered Jedi.

[@kaylaswenszkowski12]

Yoda, as well as the rest of the council, said Ahsoka had gone through her trial at the end of season 5 after barress betrayed her. She had turned coming back to the order & becoming a knight down & left the order instead. Yoda still respected that one would assume.

[@jasonsain9412]

I think yoda knew it would take one of Anakin's kids to have a chance to reach him. Maybe it wasnt about being a jedi it was about his blood and chance to reach or defeat the chosen one .

[@VictimOfReason]

Regardless of Yoda I can tell you who was wrong in every way about the last Jedi and that is Ryan Johnson

[@kirbydilbur6160]

Excellent video!! Very thought provoking! Best one yet

[@joelt2002]

Luke was not a traditional Jedi by any stretch of the imagination. He literally force chokes in Return of the Jedi. These people pretending as if Luke was some incarnation of the old Jedi are stretching it bad. These characters are obviously retconned in decades after the fact. The only real way to explain it is that Luke was the new standard bearer of the Jedi. As in their future relied upon him and no one else. Think about it. His final test to become a Jedi was to confront the most powerful Sith who had killed all other Jedi and defeat him. Why? That is a ridiculous hurdle considering Jedi Knights and Jedi Masters had failed at. Yet a padawan who had only weeks/months worth of training was supposed to pull it off? Given the prophecy introduced in the prequels. It's quite possible that both Yoda and Obi'wan thought that Luke was the real chosen one after Anakin had shown himself to be the opposite. As in they were relying on faith when all else had failed. Something they had failed to do with Anakin himself. So Luke would bring balance to the force, thus such a figure would rightfully be the standard bearer of the Jedi.

[@DescartesStrollsIntoAPub]

They didn’t exist when Frank Oz voiced the lines. That is all there is to it.

[@Chose272]

Please create video about "How can Yoda speak to Ezra in temple when Yoda was still alive."

[@lachlanlatz9464]

everybody is forgetting, Ahsoka was offered knighthood after her trial. Windu and Yoda said that going through that whole ordeal WAS her trial. So, although she renounced her Jedi title, Ahsoka was knighted and seen 100% as a jedi in Yoda's eyes. LMAOOOO casuals

[@lachlanlatz9464]

to be clear, her jedi knight trial was when she was put on legal trial in front of the Jedi Council and Senate for "bombing" the temple.

[@TommyBurnsTF2]

I think because the others didn't exist at the time when the movie script was written. Also My boy Yoda likes to troll LOL.

[@josephjohnson5766]

I always felt that Yoda wasn't saying Luke was the last Jedi of an order that needed to be rebuilt. It was more like Luke was the last Jedi of an order that needed to be forgotten. The others had grown and thrived under the influence of the Sith but still stood strong against it while the old established order was destroyed by the Sith piece by piece and didn't see it until the temple collapsed around them.