Why you don't want to be CC Immune against New Lee Sin...

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[@Birbatiel]

Visual update btw

[@HextechLab]

The visual update just cured his blindness so now he actually knows where to kick.

[@Birbatiel]

​@@HextechLab wait no I that's not what I meant by a "VISUAL" update YOOOOOO

[@parry5703]

The R damage spaghetti code is already there for God knows how long, it applies to any mod that isn't affected by CC. If you don't get knocked up from his kicking someone else to your face then the damage will apply every frame it passes through your hitbox. Truly the small indie studio moment.

[@EctorAg]

@@Birbatiel xDDDD

[@mukamuka0]

@@HextechLab Oh! shit...he's not blind anymore

[@fruitloopz1811]

lee sin if he was made in 2024

[@jamandroid164]

I mean, its a rework of character in 2024

[@MangaGamify]

esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

[@Xedlord]

​@@jamandroid164 Yeah that's the joke

[@vonspeedwagon1466]

Lee Sin if Riot Llama designed him

[@hunterkinsella5303]

​@jamandroid164 its not a rework, its purely a visual update

[@eduardobarros6562]

Somehow they manage to break the gameplay while doing a visual update

[@Doublejho]

it's not just a visual update from the code side of things, though

[@killator3421]

I mean its clearly not visual only xD They are recoding his spells so it fits with the new code base i guess. But the new code base is also sh*t i guess. From one spaghetti into another xD

[@alvinluk9724]

Why tf would a visual asset change manage to affect the functional side 🤣

[@Salzui]

@@alvinluk9724 That is because they are not just updating his visuals, but basically recreate lee sin with their new and shiny tech

[@rojakishibe7113]

that's kinda a general misunderstanding of what an ASU is. it's an Art and *Sustainability* Update. They do a lot to clean up a champ's codebase, and the blog post about the ASU had a whole section about how skin-specific additions and cosmetics had scripting in the base Lee script, clogging up all his actions when they weren't in use. (That doesn't mean bugs like this getting into PBE is a great thing, but this is also where that's supposed to be caught as a last-minute safety net)

[@DillonMeyer]

"I didn't realize they were unstoppable because I couldn't see the text. I can't see anything, actually." - Lee Sin

[@maximumgaming9155]

Sad times

[@chriswho12345]

they decided to refactor and despaghetti, but they found spaghetti on the way

[@MionMikan]

Maybe the real spaghetti was the one we found along the way

[@koalteufel7947]

respaghetti if you will

[@captain7883]

Riot always manages to take 1 spaghetti out of the pot but put 2 back in

[@David-pi4hx]

What in the flying Spaghetti Code is this? I thought it's only visual, how do you fuck up this bad??

[@hanselgabrielgomezandrade5792]

Well, is a VISUAL update, so it makes sense that Lee now can SEE where to kick

[@motivatedpotato6604]

Because most of his skins were directly tied to his code. They rebuilt it from the ground up, and we have this bolongese of a code now

[@theprisonbottle3832]

@@motivatedpotato6604 wasnt this in game before the visual update? except it was if lee ulted a champ into baron nashor, it would take multiple damage procs

[@marvinlauerwald]

Visual update= they hardcoded the hitmarker onto the animationframes, but now with the visual update the animation has 3x more frames, resulting in multiple hits if the enemy can stand still through the cc

[@casualmarkit9969]

Its an ASU, Art and Sustainability update. They advertised this change as including necessary changes to his abilities code to make them sustainable due to how poorly of a Swiss Cheese they made them back then. Problem is, its still Swiss Cheese anyway, and they aren't good chefs as established prior. They make too much Spaghetti for any and every dish they make. Tada! This nonsense right here.

[@k.a.8725]

This actually makes perfect sense. Its unstoppable force versus immoveable object. Result: delete immoveable object.

[@SpookSkellington]

Finally someone who can give Olaf the death he seeks. By kicking another man into him when he's angry

[@user-ik7xq1pb6s]

That's also how I would like to go when the time comes

[@gwegsta972]

Illaoi hard counter Olaf tho, and volibear too, trundle also beat Olaf if I remember. there is more Olaf counters than volibear counters

[@Definitely-Rel]

@@gwegsta972 He is talking about the lore

[@waylongback4514]

Beating a mf with another mf

[@johancito16345]

​@@Definitely-Relhe is talking about league gameplay, not lore

[@baxland2539]

Wait but I've actually seen some clips of something extremely simlar with pre-ASU Lee.. like I think Lee kicking someone into baron and baron just insta exploding?

[@tarrantwalter524]

different bug, that one got fixed. happened with anyone who casted their ult and then got far enough away from the baron before/while the damage was applying, it would apply constantly very fast

[@LeviTheLancer]

I think that the new lee sin ult count someone as "ulted or hit by the ulted target" when they get cc'd by the target or by the ult, and by not getting cc'd, they will get a ton of damage bc the code will aways count the person as non ulted, so they take the damage again and again and again

[@dracohir1609]

Riot putting in the extra effort, making gameplay bugs for their visual updates instead of just visual bugs.

[@ThievingDuo]

Wdym bug, thats a feature! He was just bugged for 13 years!

[@juztify3311]

Reminds of that one bug that zyra and leesin can oneshot baron back then, leesin ulting people into baron and flash away from it will also led to outcome of the video, almost instantly killing baron, zyra ulting the plant and flash away also works

[@pixdie]

it maybe coded like damage > knock up > if knocked up dont damage Try damaging someone already knocked up, might end up with no damage at all

[@Ayzev]

Barely takes any programming knowledge to figure out how such code would cause issues. I hope to god it's not actually that simple, they can't be this incompetent

[@user-kr6ss1ry1k]

​@@Ayzev dude, in the earlier years of league a new cc over cc'ed target was unlocking movement for target, it worked like cc applies "can move = false" so if you another cc that flag becomes reverted to "true" for few frames

[@Ayzev]

@@user-kr6ss1ry1k I want to cope with "At least that was at the time when it was basically still an indie game, right?" But nah, even then that's an embarrassment

[@user-kr6ss1ry1k]

@@Ayzev there was a vid recently, about msi Mechanic I've mentioned remains in game in combination of Ahri's charm and knockups

[@user-kr6ss1ry1k]

@@Ayzev vandiril maybe made a vid anout it

[@Hagaren333]

I hope you can show it with other champions who have CC immunity, like morgana with the black shield, ohnn throwing fire, alistar in the ultimate, and of course, olaf in ultimate

[@zzzpoma9961]

They rolled back changes from April Fools 2011 trailer.

[@evolutionmonster9212]

HOW THE HELL THIS IS HAPPENING ON A VISUAL UPDATE

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

they gave lee sin eyesight back!!!

[@tinng6664]

So everyone who have cc imune is also count as nash ?

[@mamaruru1308]

I could honestly imagine it to be just another additional bug to that Hydra. Because the hydra already doesn’t give you the displayed amount of lethality at the moment

[@IceedPro]

When i read "cc immune" i knew where this was going.

[@silenttwilight5111]

Well, does it work at Baron again?

[@KuRaMa1904]

How about olaf ult?

[@HextechLab]

Will also work the same

[@queenC6969]

what about morgana and sivir’s spell shield?

[@user-bw5pz4fm2j]

when do u fight as lvl 6 a lvl 2 mundo?

[@heitorbraga5910]

does this happen with morg black shield?

[@ashryver3605]

Riot spaghetti code truly never gets old. Visual update.

[@emranao]

I don't understand how so many bugs can occur just like that.

[@Lqz_y]

does this work on olaf’s ult?

[@einsvince]

Remembers me about that one bug where Lee could one-shot Baron with that ...

[@randomfeg4141]

Ahhh isn't this why a few months ago lee could almost 1shot baron aswell? since it is cc immune but now it effects champions too maybe?

[@hiirozero3623]

from hitting baron with ult while dashing/flash away to this 😂😂😂

[@jeremyruiz3998]

what about the items that grant ability shield?

[@95DreadLord]

His April fools video where he ults a minion into nexus instantly exploding it doesn't seem that ridiculous anymore

[@tsuki9799]

How can riot do a visual update and change how the habilities works

[@seweski5569]

sometimes i wonder how do things like this even happen

[@yurilopes420]

my friend and i were theory crafting: A - it either is because lee sin ult is trying to do damage and knock up. it does damage. but doesnt knock up. so it's like "try again" and it does more dmg but no knockup, rinse repeat B - might also be because being airborne avoids taking more damage from the ulti, so when you're not airborne, you just take infinite damage

[@JesusNoGA]

Does this work with Morgana shield as well?

[@HextechLab]

Yeah, works with everything that prevents the knock-up.

[@kubix426]

@@HextechLab HOW DO THEY MESS UP THAT BADLY EVEN, RIOT COME ON 😭😭

[@monke9096]

Does it work on fiora too?

[@blasfer]

what about morgana spellshield?

[@shadepowers1681]

is this live ?

[@willowknight3956]

I think this is related to the one shotting Baron bug as Baron is also immune to CC.

[@bombasticcat]

you can clearly feel that the new employee who did ksante, smolders and new skarner did this lee sin update. Please fire that persoe god

[@skiot9931]

Does this also mean that lee kick can remove spellshield AND deal the damage?

[@DanteAkira6669]

They really managed to create gameplay bugs with a visual update

[@guilhermenove4737]

mama mia spaghetti code lets call it a feature until it happens in the next worlds

[@Catswaga]

Idk if they patched it but a couple months back you could do the same thing to baron and dragon

[@freedove6791]

The Morgana incident

[@x3voo]

It kind of reminds me of the old Lee Sin R bug that could one-shot Baron

[@zzzlulzzz5080]

Remember the time when lee sin's kick have blood splatter?

[@Kyrolysis]

Lee is now a Morg counter

[@rafinha4821]

It wasn't only changing the visual riot?

[@heilokcd2703]

Finally the olaf counter we needed

[@jessblues848]

Surely we won't see Lee Sin kick into a Malzahar at worlds!

[@MangaGamify]

esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

[@quintessenceoflife7870]

I was gonna say how does just changing animations effect the things in a kit like this then remembered how long skarner took cause how deeply embedded he was in riot's spaghetti code.

[@guillyaume]

and with olaf?

[@spunkin49]

pretty odd that a visual update would cause a bug like this, i woulda thought that code wouldnt be involved at all. programming is nasty work

[@lyzextra5891]

this bugs been here for a bit u can 1 shot baron if u dash away towards opposite wall after kick

[@noisehero4409]

League players when the visual update has some code changes to it (they didn’t know this happens)

[@MangaGamify]

esport matches are the only thing they're fixing *💸*

[@derier1000]

Does anyone have any images of how riot code actually looks, legit like how is it written, I'm stupid and don't know PC but I rly rly wonder why people call it spaghetti I imagine it being a long list of words and symbols like hieroglyphics

[@robertlupa8273]

One Kick Man

[@thedaethbringer]

Ngl I think conceptually this is kinda interesting as a champ idea. Make it so they do more damage to a CC immune enemy.

[@Browsignal]

"insert 200 years meme"

[@justaguy1304]

The ksante counter

[@xaviermm5506]

Such quality of life buffs, thanks riot!

[@Manwu5]

It works as intended 😂

[@ferhatius3943]

guess ive been laying lee wrong the whole time

[@lazinessincarnate9442]

So THATS why i took 3.9k dmg from lee sin ult earlier

[@scurvysailor165]

When are they patching the gangplank one part bug? This is driving me nuts ☠️☠️

[@merchant_of_kek5697]

Changes his uniform, now Lee instakill tanks.

[@thedumbone2687]

Lee sin mains oneshotting 10/0 Olaf common w

[@AC-ut3nk]

Imagine something work properly, Just imagine.

[@lolbp4200]

Morg black shield ?

[@aziaufa418]

who still remember Lee Sin R bug that instantly kills baron

[@ramespeon]

00:40 "it only works with new lee sin" procceds to half mundo's hp

[@cryochick9044]

He's level 2 lee has 200 ad

[@TheAstyanii]

That's approximately the same damage taken by Mundo post-update shown at 0:05. Only differences are: -Mundo is level 3 post-update compared to level 2 pre-update (less health/armor, should take more damage pre-update) -K'Sante is level 3 post-update compared to level 4 pre-update (because R uses champ's max health, pre-update should take more damage) -Mundo doesn't have trait active post-update while he does pre-update (pre-update should take more damage)

[@kylre]

The old lee can one shot baron with this same bug

[@Ao3y889]

Its the same shait like with the baron before And yeah its wierd that visual update would do something like this they might have changed his R i was not able to do R flash after the rework Idk i might be just wierd

[@Holasoyfelipesochao]

this isnt the same bug that ppl used to like clear baron ultra fast with Lee R?

[@bragiodinsen4604]

small indie company

[@TropicalPunchz]

not me trying to ? ping on the video lmao

[@shiroamurha]

same bug as that old one which oneshots baron

[@XelquetevenceraX]

They should keep it, finally a counter to unstoppable champs

[@Th4ata]

tell me this is fixed by now please

[@Pigraider268]

Let's got tank counters!!! ^^

[@user-qu8rh3ib4p]

its because in the code they tried to give lee sin hidden buffs and tweaking the numbers

[@marianoherrera6038]

Vanguard is fine and works as usual!

[@Braxtonkai]

Death stopped them, unstoppable is bugged

[@user-en5mh8rb3h]

The same company forces us to install Vanguard and be cool about it btw

[@Trisander]

Just a silly little oversight

[@SparkOfCorn]

wait isnt this y lee sin was able to oneshot baron earlier in the season

[@Gabonidaz]

These are the developers who put vanguard in your machine btw. Totally safe for sure.

[@orshabaal8990]

he didnt need a visual update in the first place. new one looks so dorky

[@demons785]

if i don t say shit ornn passive deal more dmg too to mundo when he has passive up

[@McconneIIRet]

HOW CAN LEE SIN MAINS COPE AND SAY THEIR CHAMP ISNT OVERTUNED?!?!

[@greezmonke3904]

Spaghetti codes

[@johnkisaragi5920]

Morgana be like 🥵

[@celloj3703]

Rito moment

[@liadex650]

Comet Lee Sin

[@mr.rabbit5642]

When ur a preschool tutor tasked with coding a game and you have no idea what ur doing lmao