Why you (Probably) Chose the wrong main... | Tekken 8 Real Talk

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Chad The Third

Chad The Third

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@CashySwanson
@CashySwanson 4 ай бұрын
IF you made a "Character Toolbox" series, where you go over either individual characters a bit more in depth or a small group like this to this extent, I would fall in love straight up. These are the kind of guides that I LOVE and NOBODY makes them like this! Amazing video brother!
@gucciland
@gucciland 27 күн бұрын
This would be fantastic
@migaoricecake
@migaoricecake 5 ай бұрын
if only theres a video that breaks down every tekken character the way you do - it will be a godsend for people picking up tekken for the first time, skips so much labbing time just to find the right character to even start off on the right foot with, especially for people coming from other fighting games too
@geneanderton6675
@geneanderton6675 20 күн бұрын
Just pick the hardest line I did and get to GoD with hei on pad. Proud
@not_ordnance
@not_ordnance 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see you break down more characters like this. Very inspired, easy to follow as a beginner, and captivating as hell
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful. Maybe I will do more Toolbox studies in the future. (Also, love your Profile pic - Catch you later Space Cowboy)
@052Ryder
@052Ryder 5 ай бұрын
@@ChadTheThirdUK I challenge you to break down Zafina :D
@tanjitsingh5291
@tanjitsingh5291 5 ай бұрын
This video is amazing in a frustrating way. Because the way you are breaking down the character is how every character guide should be. Every character guide/anti-character guide is: What is punishable, what is duckable, what is frames of move x and y. Knowing the game plan is the part that you can't lab. I can lab the frames of Xiaoyu and her mix ups, but I can't easily figure out through labbing what her gameplan is or what Kaz's is and why they are what they are. Your video is amazing but u can continue to make content like this. I am subbing!
@spencerrodrigues2532
@spencerrodrigues2532 5 ай бұрын
Bro has a PHD in Tekken
@hiddenapprentice3751
@hiddenapprentice3751 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@dviking7654
@dviking7654 3 ай бұрын
man earned a lifelong sub from me. Holy crap love the character toolbox idea ,and you're tottally right about character comfort last tekken i played was 5 and played a ton of steve and now with 8 its been the same. But i am a sweatlord and wanna optimize as much as possible so i can try my hand at being a pro. Gonna binge your whole damn catalogue of videos purely cause this one
@Wolfgang_von_Caelid
@Wolfgang_von_Caelid 5 ай бұрын
1.5 hour TEKKEN 8 REAL TALK I already know bro about to cook... But I'm a Lee main and I know DAMN WELL I chose right 😤
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
Imagine the video finishes and you become a Law Main 😅
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 5 ай бұрын
@@ChadTheThirdUKor worse a xiaoyu main 😏 (jokes)
@barba3377
@barba3377 5 ай бұрын
@@hands-ongaming7180 or worse a Kuma main
@shaquilleIV
@shaquilleIV 5 ай бұрын
Nice pfp zaddy
@davidhoward1607
@davidhoward1607 5 ай бұрын
Nah fr twin 😭😭😭 Lee is where it’s at
@The_Buff_Guy
@The_Buff_Guy 5 ай бұрын
Always love your videos, bro.
@TheManWithTheFryingPan
@TheManWithTheFryingPan 5 ай бұрын
Your point about becoming a more well rounded player by playing other characters is well taken. First time tekken player here took me 150 hours to get Bryan to flame ruler and Shaheen/nina to garyu. After playing a bit of shaheen, all of bryan's crouch moves became much easier. One character influenced my skill with another. I really want to learn more characters before I rank up further, I already find it exhausting to start as dominator/vanquisher when I pick up a character for the first time.
@yatosmoon7501
@yatosmoon7501 5 ай бұрын
Especially with the prowess based matchmaking, ranking up secondary characters is a nightmare
@TheManWithTheFryingPan
@TheManWithTheFryingPan 5 ай бұрын
@@yatosmoon7501 yeah. Luckily I find that just putting on the +2 rank max on matchmaking leads me to only meet other yellow/orange ranks with my same prowess. They're lumping together people who are also ranking secondaries, so for this rank the prowess thing seems to work as intended
@yatosmoon7501
@yatosmoon7501 5 ай бұрын
@@TheManWithTheFryingPan To me this system makes ranks completely useless and a very stressful experience but I respect your opinion !
@suhvearly
@suhvearly 5 ай бұрын
i agree learning to play more characters did the same for me
@DivekickAddict
@DivekickAddict 5 ай бұрын
One of the actual good Tekken 8 talk video out there, definitly spoke to people even in higher ranks
@TheGianGame
@TheGianGame 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mention man👊🏻, I watched the first part I will finish it later. Great topic, well elaborated!
@hooddizzle
@hooddizzle 5 ай бұрын
i didnt WATCH the video i sat my ass down and LISTENED
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
Extra Credit!
@djw_tekken8490
@djw_tekken8490 5 ай бұрын
@@ChadTheThirdUK kazuyas standing launcher is 13 frame
@tinyparcel6305
@tinyparcel6305 5 ай бұрын
To be fair if you consistently hit that 13frame no one can honestly say shit to you about Tekken. However for the rest of us Tekken plebians it's 14f.
@gucciland
@gucciland 27 күн бұрын
Great video my dude, rockin' information here. I'm starting my tekken journey with 8 for real and this helps me really think about things
@soarinduscai
@soarinduscai 5 ай бұрын
This is a fire video for all levels of play tbh. Easily rewatchable due to the key points
@jamesandrews3535
@jamesandrews3535 4 ай бұрын
man i wasnt expecting this to be this good, almsot 40 minutes in and its brilliant
@itach1freak
@itach1freak 5 ай бұрын
Watched the whole hour and enjoyed the character trade study. Everything has a trade off and we definitely tend to forget that. Gg
@kendey9928
@kendey9928 5 ай бұрын
Hey man I started tekken with tekken 8 and your tekken real talk series has been so good to listen to keep up the good work
@_spiderweb_5820
@_spiderweb_5820 5 ай бұрын
Not only is this video incredibly informative but you are so charismatic that it kept me engaged throughout the whole thing, great video!
@raidennc
@raidennc 5 ай бұрын
This has to be my favorite video on this channel. Loved every second.
@mityaoreh
@mityaoreh 4 ай бұрын
doing my chores with this in the background. You are an amazing narrator, ideas are bright and clear, i absolutely love it! see ya in tekken gods+, when i conquer Lmg_Mob’s lars first place!!
@yatosmoon7501
@yatosmoon7501 5 ай бұрын
I think your channel is the best discovery I made for my Tekken 8 journey as much as Eileen's, your insights are very informatives !
@burnedpotato1895
@burnedpotato1895 5 ай бұрын
Very informative video! It's honestly nice to see someone talk about Leo and know what they're talking about.
@volktol4432
@volktol4432 5 ай бұрын
He’s good, I haven’t played him in a while but I gave him some good time when I started, fun to play and pretty fun to fight
@irshman1845
@irshman1845 5 ай бұрын
This is the first tekken I have taken seriously. I know how to play 14 characters right now and only lose consistently to the characters I don't know. Learning how to play with every character is the ultimate key to learning matchups. Also knowing a few pocket characters for certain match ups never hurt nobody
@harpot678
@harpot678 5 ай бұрын
Dude it's such a massive time committment to learn so many characters.
@nahashammon1081
@nahashammon1081 5 ай бұрын
problem is prowess ruins players who play multiple characters in ranked
@harpot678
@harpot678 5 ай бұрын
@@nahashammon1081 As a guy newer to Tekken, I get the philosophy of the prowess system. They had to pick one group to throw to the dogs and it was people who play many characters. People who's prowess is so much higher than mine but in the same rank feel like people much further in in their tekken journey but stoop to my level to beat me up.
@nahashammon1081
@nahashammon1081 5 ай бұрын
@@harpot678 either way the other option of not using it might have been problematic aswell i guess
@kronksstronkstonks6360
@kronksstronkstonks6360 5 ай бұрын
​@@harpot678 You're partially right but it only benefits character loyalists for as long as they stick to one character. I've recently stepped away from Kazuya after playing him exclusively since T7 and now players that I struggle against despite deep kaz knowledge, familiarity and comfortability are who I'm up against with characters I've never touched before in my life. You'd think ranked would act as a smoother learning curve but not really since 50% of the time you're unable to find matches, and of those you find, most are trying to gain ranks ASAP and so dodge if you beat em soundly (always an issue but I've found it to be grossly common at the ~200k prowess orange ranks). They've tried to mitigate rank stagnation thanks to having a small number of ranks (in T7 they had this issue and it caused a lot of punching downwards that killed ranked) with an additional matchmaking criteria, but all they've done is make ranks meaningless in favour of prowess, which doesn't care about character familiarity. In short, it sucks for everyone and doesn't work properly as a system ahaha.
@jamessmith6333
@jamessmith6333 3 ай бұрын
0:15 my bad sir i’ll throw it out immediately.
@jamessmith6333
@jamessmith6333 15 күн бұрын
@ its the same name… jimmy is a nickname for james
@RobotickGames
@RobotickGames 5 ай бұрын
Genuinely one of the best tekken videos and advice in general I've ever seen in this community. This is the first video of yours I've ever come across and I look forward to more :))
@ericgrose9403
@ericgrose9403 5 ай бұрын
You can be loyal to a character and make it work. Yes, it may take more work but nevertheless it can be done. Over the years, I used multiple characters on other tekken games but I find that Kuma works the most for me. Of course, sometime I would have an alt sometime later in which can help the main in some kind of way. The takeaway from this is to DO YOU and PUT IN WORK.
@amirscol
@amirscol 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos ive ever watched about a fighting game thank you for this blessing brother
@lebee
@lebee 5 ай бұрын
Keep posting videos like this they're so good
@MyChannelZs
@MyChannelZs 5 ай бұрын
This is the best video I've seen in a while. Very well spoken!
@TakeItEZ_bruh
@TakeItEZ_bruh 5 ай бұрын
Very good video, watched the entire thing! Subscribed 💯
@captainmercer3566
@captainmercer3566 5 ай бұрын
This video was just right on point and fun to watch. Keep it up. Really enjoyed this!
@Kenkyou_Nogata
@Kenkyou_Nogata 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this man and his takes... If people saw you more than mainman. Tekken would be classy.
@AtticusDungeon
@AtticusDungeon 5 ай бұрын
This is incredible! You have a knack for painting an overall picture of what a character is looking for, plus backing it up with intricate details of their pros and cons! [Balanced, like Leo!] Would you consider making a video that provides a short / general picture of EVERY character? No one I have found really describes the character's as eloquently as you. This might be asking too much, but this video has been the most informative in terms of understanding both different styles of play AND which characters lean towards them. This is my first Tekken. So this video hits perfectly as I have one main character (my 1st choice) while I dance around other characters, but feel trapped in character loyalty to stick to my first choice. A video that describes each character in a concise manner like you have done here, would be legendary. Keep up the awesome work!
@BlackJustice2637
@BlackJustice2637 5 ай бұрын
I love the tricky eileen shout-out, she's great
@rekoilS
@rekoilS Ай бұрын
this could unironically be an uni class lmao. almost 90 mins long, nice structure and presented it freely. wish i had your speaking/presentation skills
@Jodonovitch
@Jodonovitch 5 ай бұрын
I've begun playing Leo recently, and your video was really interesting. Thanks for talking about this subject. I feel like I now have a better understanding about Leo, and where Leo is compared to other characters 👍 The tool box part is great ! The visual presentation was also very well made.
@BlackJustice2637
@BlackJustice2637 5 ай бұрын
The xiaoyu section is legit the closest anyone has gotten me to trying to pick her up, well done
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
My plan is working! MUHAHAHAHA!!!
@mccollio0909
@mccollio0909 5 ай бұрын
I'm 20 mins in and I've already subscribed, you were already preaching to the converted but I'm very much on board with your way of thinking
@Marshuma
@Marshuma 5 ай бұрын
This video is incredibly well presented. A lot of great insights!
@rizkyraxus8929
@rizkyraxus8929 5 ай бұрын
Wow, What a really nice informative video.
@NorthDelhiFighter
@NorthDelhiFighter 5 ай бұрын
You are right, that’s why I am waiting for heihachi
@neverminder666
@neverminder666 4 ай бұрын
Oh man Chad… I came for Tekken but when you mentioned GW1 and Mesmers. All the fond memories came back about GW1 and playing HA of GvG.. thanks for that. I miss that game (during its active days)
@saviormonroe-lh7oh
@saviormonroe-lh7oh 5 ай бұрын
Funny, I just watched a K-Wiss (pro player God of Destruction Hwaorang) play on stream and he had a 15 game win streak. He ended up losing to a Tekken God Kaz player. So what you say about Kaz players is TRUE. Stepping to the left and avoiding their most dangerous moves is MUCH easier said than done.
@Topgamer357
@Topgamer357 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@diogogarcia7970
@diogogarcia7970 5 ай бұрын
Didn't new the channel, big fan from now on.
@jpmasters3827
@jpmasters3827 Ай бұрын
Great video you should make a vid breaking down every other character in the game as well if you haven't already a video like those how to pick your main
@ExpanderDJ
@ExpanderDJ 5 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 is my first Tekken. I considered myself an Azucena main with all her gimmicks and tricks, but with my friend always pushing me to try King I gave it a go and am having a blast! I also tried out Lili, Lidia and Hwoarang. Now Brian and Xiaoyu are definitely next on my list. Also Yoshimitsu looks so damn fun. The searching and learning never stops!
@mikekingtaberna8917
@mikekingtaberna8917 5 ай бұрын
the short time ive spent around pros is the nicest memory l have from fgc. all really cool people, i want to exude their energy and play tekken at that level. your video was not rambling. your points were clear concise, and l watched the entirety. thank you for the insight.
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
Real talk - People underestimate just how "Chill" most of the best players in the world are. I want to exude that energy too homie!
@mikekingtaberna8917
@mikekingtaberna8917 5 ай бұрын
@ChadTheThirdUK they all stand on the side of the main stage you can just Integrate in there and feel at home
@freeasun7078
@freeasun7078 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video. As a beginner to Tekken, it would be cool if you did a series breaking down all the other characters in the same way. It can be hard figuring out what each character is supposed to do and be good at for a first timer
@Boteruna
@Boteruna 24 күн бұрын
would love to see a detailed analyses for every characters like this
@BigBoris-n7z
@BigBoris-n7z 5 ай бұрын
It aint a "might". They literally killed ooff my main heihachi and now i gotta pay to get him back 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
@patriarchtikhon4903
@patriarchtikhon4903 5 ай бұрын
That's rough buddy
@owAlizo
@owAlizo 5 ай бұрын
Just play reina
@AdilDIlyas
@AdilDIlyas 2 ай бұрын
He's back
@pepperjacket
@pepperjacket 4 ай бұрын
one of the best tekken videos i ever watched. after 250 hours of t8 ive hit a character crisis in mighty ruler and i think i might try xiaoyu after this video. i would love if more people took the toolkbox approach to analysing the characters
@celadoncitynative
@celadoncitynative 5 ай бұрын
Subscribed dude. There's a lot to learn here
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 5 ай бұрын
I chose right with devil Jin but the devs said Nah
@DioRando98
@DioRando98 5 ай бұрын
I think they're going to buff him later in Tekken 8's lifespan similar to the last update to Street fighter 5 giving Ryu all the tools.
@DioRando98
@DioRando98 5 ай бұрын
Or buff him so people don't all switch to Heihachi Mishima.
@aoi7910
@aoi7910 5 ай бұрын
@@DioRando98 Why wouldn't they want people to switch to Heihachi, they're selling the dlc
@DioRando98
@DioRando98 5 ай бұрын
@@aoi7910 Similar to akuma they wanted to make an extremely overpowered DLC character that everyone would try and they succeeded but in doing so they threw the hardcore player base under the bus and allowed such a disgusting character like akuma to be as good as he was especially in tournaments all you saw was akuma it was pretty sad also Leroy. So you can say yes the point of DLC is to sell DLC but it should not be at the expense of the player. You want the player to feel free to pick any character because every character should have tools suitable combat or counter everyone else. When you have characters like Leroy and akuma especially on release they're obviously better than everyone else so there's no point on picking anyone else. I love character variety especially in tournaments I hate seeing the same character over and over again or fighting the same character over and over again especially when they're just picking them because oh they're selling DLC so they're extremely powerful. Devil jin is a super cool character but the amount of effort you need to put in to do combos or get any life lead at all is extremely strenuous compared to let's say Paul or most likely heyachi on release. My big thing is if you're going to make a DLC character don't just make them overpowered to sell DLC try to make them fair and if they are overpowered please buff other characters like low tier people like Djin to give a reason to people to try other characters.
@DioRando98
@DioRando98 5 ай бұрын
@@aoi7910 bit of a hypocrite though because I will be jumping on the heyachi bandwagon when he comes out. Cuz I know he's going to be strong on release. Not that I agree with this DLC practice of overpowered characters but I understand like you do they have to sell the DLC.
@whos_raz6814
@whos_raz6814 5 ай бұрын
Watched the whole 1.25 hours of the video and loved it
@RichardULong
@RichardULong 5 ай бұрын
I got recommended this video as a red rank jack8 with about 30 hours game time total. You talked about trying to play a character for a couple weeks, but it’s fun seeing this perspective when those couple weeks are my entire experience. Super interesting and thanks for explaining a lot of these concepts (as well as how xiaoyu works lmao). I love jack but maybe I gotta experiment with a character that has a good sidestep game
@SaejaSeryk
@SaejaSeryk 25 күн бұрын
I'm only eight minutes in and I am basking in the intelligence of this person. I love cerebral breakdowns of videogames. Like he says, it's fun to learn and watch others learn. I'ma watch this whole goddamn video, my friend.
@in3vitableTIMING
@in3vitableTIMING 5 ай бұрын
Quite as it’s kept learning tekken outside of the game is just as fun. People like yourself, tricky and wisdom seeker have mixed psychology and tekken tech so well. Big up you 3 fr! 🎉
@FeDDoSoff
@FeDDoSoff 5 ай бұрын
As soon as you said “if you want a rocket launcher - you should pick Kazuya” - I knew I was never wrong picking him for just cool design. This guy slaps, and if he dont - I have to lab more - and this is what I like about this character. Breaking my fingers trying to do ewgf on dpad is what i thrive for. But! I must stay that I should really try other characters to understand tekken better, thanks for that note!
@shaftmastr7753
@shaftmastr7753 Ай бұрын
I would pick a highly aggresive character to contrast kazuyas defensive neutral based playstyle. Characters who build up damage over multiple hits instead of looking for big hits and 50/50s (tho tekken 8 is a lot of 50/50)
@OleGrizzli
@OleGrizzli 5 ай бұрын
This was actually really insightful. Im brand new to Tekken and Paul was my favorite character at the start. Although at first I wanted to learn Raven or Heihachi based on the gameplay I watched in Tekken 7.
@CallTheEVAC
@CallTheEVAC 4 ай бұрын
Man is actually speaking to my soul. Ive been having a character crisis myself and i just wasnt having fun with claudio in t8. Glad to see its not just me.
@Chadchadersonthe3rd
@Chadchadersonthe3rd 5 ай бұрын
amazing video, thanks for not just hopping on the wave of "play what you like". This is a way more nuanced take on how you should find your main.
@CashySwanson
@CashySwanson 4 ай бұрын
It would also be SO cool if you could put together a sort of a character stat sheet (like those hexagons that fill in ykyk like pokemon or a mmo or something) for the characters and how they rank as far as those 6 categories. would make figuring out playstyles of characters extremely easy!
@charlesluikart1799
@charlesluikart1799 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t really touched Tekken 8 since about a month and a half after launch but this video is so entertaining and genuinely informing I think I might try picking it up again soon
@mustachman5
@mustachman5 5 ай бұрын
this video is awesome! do you think you can make more toolbox style videos of other characters? that would be super helpful to a lot of people including me
@angelosavioti4627
@angelosavioti4627 5 ай бұрын
That would be nice
@wanabdulhadi1268
@wanabdulhadi1268 5 ай бұрын
I find myself pretty happy with Jin and Devil Jin. I played both characters in T7 too. Jin has a complete toolkit that incentivises me to use everything, from pokes, electrics, wavedashing, counterhit fishing, throws, oki, etc. When I feel I’m lacking in certain aspects of my game, I go to devil jin (whom I find more enjoyable) in order to force me to focus on fundamentals more, which then carries over when I play Jin.
@javqa773
@javqa773 5 ай бұрын
Damn, that chasam stuff you talked about at the start is so real. Tekken 8 is my first tekken so i was pretty excited to hit bushin. I dropped down to battle ruler bot long after but thought it wasn't a huge deal. I'm now having a hard time climbing out of Tenryu as a lot of the people I play against are somewhere in blue but are on secondaries. It has definitely tilted me a bit to get stuck in red after making the climb to blue
@flamingzoro
@flamingzoro 5 ай бұрын
Man , what the actual hell. Literally hit Tekken King got demoted all the way down and was in a character crisis . Amazing vid ! So helpful!
@shaftmastr7753
@shaftmastr7753 Ай бұрын
The idea that playing other characters improves your other skills is kind fo where im at. Ive been playing mostly drag (cuz i wanna win) but his flow chart kind of makes me feel like im not playing the game sometimes and i tunnel vision when i play him, i been playing jin and feng in order to get my neutral game up and not focus on plus frames so much. I picked drag because 1. I wanted to win but moreso 2. I just thought he had cool moves and animations. I am pretty experienced so i knew his rushdown playstyle suited me but i wasnt making an extremely informed decision, so i think its good to learn other characters and flesh out my understanding of the game. Honestly, playing other games increases your skill as well, when you switch up to older tekkens, or other fighting games in general, you strengthen your fundamentals and you start to be able to pick out whats good faster
@Weaver0x00
@Weaver0x00 5 ай бұрын
I clicked on the video because it was popping up in my feed all day yesterday, but after a couple minutes I paused and thought "alright let me get some tea".
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
@@Weaver0x00 not gonna lie; honoured to have been worth the trip to the kettle 😁 Stay awesome..
@beruni777
@beruni777 4 ай бұрын
I’m really glad your video appeared in my suggestions. 1 hour and a half video that just flew by with your insightful analysis and funny delivery to boot. Imma definitely subscribe for more! I’ve personally recently demoted to “blue ranks 2.0” after getting Tekken King with Lidia and the part about 200k prowess matchmaking making you face players who will expose your character’s weaknesses is so damn true. I’ve never had to worry about Lidia’s horrendously linear moveset until then because most of my opponents were playing 2D Tekken until now 😂 It makes you come to terms with your character’s strengths and weaknesses. Is it worth it for me to deal with and work around Lidia having arguably the worst low pokes and one of the most linear moveset in the entire roster on top of a fake af stance game that relies entirely on mental frames or specific callouts BUT I also get the most explosive snowballing no execution required mixup blender when my heat is active and got access to Heaven and Earth stance. Following your “toolbox” comparison helps frame what I’m working with in regards to my main’s kit so that I can ask myself “is this what I want to work with on the long term with this specific character?” “is this the type of gameplan and win conditions I wanna commit to to get Ws with this character?”
@Blobertbigly
@Blobertbigly 5 ай бұрын
Very intelligent and insightful things said here, I'll try to keep them in mind as I play
@BigCocoEnergy
@BigCocoEnergy 4 ай бұрын
Brother, we’re gonna need a toolbox series where you explain every character this way😭
@barba3377
@barba3377 5 ай бұрын
Hey Chad, really loved this video. I must say that, when you talked about how Leo is often glossed over by other streamers i really felt it. For the same reason, if it's not a bother, i would love to hear what's your opinion on Raven.
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
I don't know much about Raven myself, but when I've studied him a bit more I'll get back to you. I actually want to cover ALL of the less-common character in the game. They need more love.
@barba3377
@barba3377 5 ай бұрын
@@ChadTheThirdUK can't wait for It man, keep up the good work👍
@dr.ogremitsu-77
@dr.ogremitsu-77 4 ай бұрын
This man is breaking down the psychology of choice. Very deep thought provoking. I think why I love fighting games. Is everything you described. A fast pace game of chess. A battle of the minds and dexterity. The fire of Fighting. Enter the Tekken
@melthework4511
@melthework4511 5 ай бұрын
Finally a tekken KZbinr who’s educational and not just shitting on “insert character” mains. Thank you for the great content!
@Dunkaholic18
@Dunkaholic18 5 ай бұрын
The part about tekken prowess matchmaking and hitting tekken king is so ungodly dead on. i did it and immediately got dumpstered back down to purple within 24 hours. Caused me to drop Paul due to the mental boom that happened and i havent touched him since. I dont even have a character in Blue ranks anymore lol. Also your point about ranked not being a dead on accurate representation of skill but a decent indicator was EXACTLY how i felt too. Im only a little bit into this video and it's like you're reading my mind word for word. I'll keep chugging along and edit after i finish. So far really great stuff!!
@NotCooby
@NotCooby 5 ай бұрын
4:57 the more characters you played before the earlier you'll experience this, I barely touched Fujin and all I play are 250k prowess people, this shit hurts
@Dwolfin
@Dwolfin 5 ай бұрын
Oh now this is peak, this is the question Ive been asking since the beginning. idk who my main is yet. I'd love to see a hunger games tool box line up video for the whole cast lol
@holyvision_v5051
@holyvision_v5051 5 ай бұрын
Chad the Third is Jay D. Legend of Tekken
@genzo454
@genzo454 5 ай бұрын
Note: Leo's d/f+2 is -13 on block normally. It's only -12 if the second active frame connects. Doesn't totally changed your analysis of the move, but it does meant that it is a bit more risky than say, Dragunov's d/f+2 (which _is_ -12 on block) in specific matchups
@skylrxoxo
@skylrxoxo 5 ай бұрын
the tekken king blue queue makes me feel so much better. i've been stuck in blue 2.0 for the past week and im losing my mindddddd 😭😭
@FangBang3r
@FangBang3r 5 ай бұрын
Yea definitely a fan of your content now. I've poured more hours than I care to mention across several tekkens on Xiaoyu. I arrogantly assumed i had little to learn on the philosophy of a character and just needed more reps. I deserve more popularity for your thoughts.
@nt3xplain
@nt3xplain 5 ай бұрын
Jun main here and I originally chose her because I was new to tekken, her moves weren’t too hard to use, I believe she can be a very technical character at times however i got her to shinryu, and I’ve been wanting to take on a more challenging character like a Bryan, Steve or Lee to learn the game more
@S0LACE_AETERNUM
@S0LACE_AETERNUM 5 ай бұрын
Choose Bryan, it’s a lowkey flex to main Bryan
@ChristopherWaddelow
@ChristopherWaddelow 5 ай бұрын
Since I started playing Tekken back in 2019, I have played for at least 100 matches up to 1000 matches or more with: Law, Asuka, Alisa, Lee, Dragonuv, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Heihachi, Jin, Bryan, Claudio, Shaheen, Leroy, Armor King, Noctis, Leo, Kazumi, and Steve. In T7 I got up to the purple ranks. In T8 I have ben edging Tekken King. I am probably forgetting someone. I think character loyalty is taken to an absurd level in this game, and playing other characters helps to learn every match up far better. I am taking this video as an opportunity to flex on character loyalists.
@vltraheaven
@vltraheaven 5 ай бұрын
32:30 "Timing is the ultimate mix-up tool. Not 'Mid/Low'...'Fast/Slow'." Profound wisdom, not just for Tekken but for ACTUAL sports combat.
@raidennc
@raidennc 5 ай бұрын
It's also interesting bc in my (way too long) Tekken "career" I have mained both Ling and Leo, and picked Drag up near the end of TTT2. And I have put myself through the exact exercise you described several times and ended up in very different places because of it. Heihachi is my favorite Tekken character, but the reason I don't main him is bc his tool kit doesn't value the things I do in a hunger games scenario. I've come to grips with the reality that to me it is not worth it to sacrifice consistency for power, so I will probably never main a character that is dependent on high execution. Super interesting and compelling.
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
I'm with you dawg. I value consistency over power and defence over offence - (That's just my conservative nature I guess) and its been hard to find a character who rewards that in this new aggressive Tekken 8 environment. But who knows, maybe NEW Heihachi might be a version that ticks your boxes.
@natecartwright2319
@natecartwright2319 4 ай бұрын
@@ChadTheThirdUK i think he might since there are ways to get crazy offence with low risk (need to be in his warrior mode to do it) but you also get insane dmg for 12 frame and 13 frame punish. you also get ws 15f launcher. seems like a modern version of hei for sure and i think its almost character breaking
@simplygames6611
@simplygames6611 5 ай бұрын
Great video! First time Tekken player starting from 8 (played a little bit of T5 or T6 for the PSP, and a little of T7). Started with Lars because I had a slight bit of experience from the PSP games but found myself just pressing whatever and not really understanding what I was doing. I could do one or two good combos, but found myself just fishing for his orbital/launcher rather than poking and punishing which kind of got me stuck in... Warrior rank. Got my ass handed to me by an assailant rank Kazuya who absolutely obliterated me 6-0 which kind of got me interested in the character. Watched some of Keisuke's run in CEO, decided to try out his combo challenges and never looked back. And it was quite rough going from Lars to Kazuya. I still hadn't adapted to using the d-pad exclusively (Xbox One Controller) and was switching between the stick and the pad. Learning cd+ moves, the unorthodox inputs (compared to Lars) and playing in a completely different style took a while to get used too. I had the hardest time even landing simple moves since he has a good bit of negative frame moves on block and with how little of a repertoire I had of his moves, I got my ass kicked so much. However, I'll definitely say it has made me improve in Tekken and fighting games as a whole. I don't think I'll be switching up my character anytime soon, but I do have an interest in dabbling with Xiaoyu just because she looks like fun to play. It'd be fun one day to spar with you, but I have a long way to go haha. Cheers, and good day!
@ChadTheThirdUK
@ChadTheThirdUK 5 ай бұрын
Not as long as you think homie! So cool to hear you switch from Lars to Kazuya (They are SOO different!!) but yeah, now you have experience of TWO very different styles of Tekken which makes you better over all. Then again, do you know what you get when you Mix Lars and Kazuya? Reina 👀
@jazzab152
@jazzab152 5 ай бұрын
This video is relatable as hell to me specifically the character loyalty vs sunk cost section. I dabbled in T7 but couldnt stick with it because those online lobbies were garbage but I played enough to consider myself a Julia player. So now fast forward to T8 and no Julia on the roster I wanted to pick someone that I knew would always be in future game. so I decided to pick up Asuka but wanted to learn Xiaoyu but didn't because I was daunted by the thought of learning Tekken for real and Xiaoyu a character regarded as being very complex at the same time. At first Asuka was fun and I was enjoying learning the game but kinda lost motivation at red ranks and stopped playing for a bit. I'm now picking Tekken back up and decided to go with my gut and start playing Xiaoyu a character most people who know me just assumed I was playing already due to my character picks in other games (Chun-Li in SF, Jam in Guilty Gear, Seong Mina in Soulcalibur, Luong/Mai/Vanessa in KOF and Litchi in Blazblue) and while I'm enjoying the learning process again I know this is going to one hell of a question I ask myself when Julia eventually makes it back into T8..
@Ivan.79
@Ivan.79 Ай бұрын
If you have doubts, just pick whoever you personally like the most cuz of story and/or design, if you stay motivated you WILL learn and become good with anyone no matter what
@MoluskToeCheese
@MoluskToeCheese 5 ай бұрын
Tbh ive often thought of the same thing about my own main Interesting topic u got here
@ldAstrid
@ldAstrid 4 ай бұрын
Cool video gave me alot to think about
@aracystic28
@aracystic28 5 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 is my first Tekken and I went w Jun to learn because I loved her play style. If I knew what I knew now, I would have went with Nina :x I love Tricky Eileen!!! Omg! I was following her Tekken journey and her scientific method of learning. Great video man! 💕
@jonslamlee6539
@jonslamlee6539 5 ай бұрын
yeah learning new characters give you a wider perspective and knowledge of the game. I have mostly been playing Reina since launch. and since its my first Tekken game it was a lot to learn. I'm only at purple ranks currently right now. but I felt really hard stuck at mighty ruler. I then decided to try and play Alissa, yeah yeah she "plays herself" but it gave me a much better perspective on lows and sidestepping. Now even though Reina's lows aren't great I am using them more just to create pressure. and I am staring to sidestep certain moves/strings to open my opponent up and now I'm getting close to blue ranks. Not to mention learning a new character is fun and helps reset your frustration with the game.
@JonCastro-vz3xn
@JonCastro-vz3xn 2 ай бұрын
Yep that what happen to me.. my main was Miguel in tekken 7 realize he wasn’t going to be in tekken 8.. I tried Leo and went to ruler ranks, where I struggle the most.. I wanted Leo to be my main so bad but because of my defensive playstyle and my habits of wanting to punish everything Leo to me didn’t have the tools I needed to level up my gameplay style and why I struggle so bad in purple.. I finally tried other characters finally settle for my old main in tekken 6 and tag team 2 day asuka.. I realize how much more comfortable with her and I easily breeze through purple and made it to bushin.. asuka was best suited for me any many situation and has tools Leo didn’t have.. now I’m having fun again and love switching between asuka and Jun like I used to in tag team 2 days.. I guess at heart I will always be a asuka main sometimes you explore options and your real main could be their
@c.c.anubis
@c.c.anubis 5 ай бұрын
I guess a good explanation for your character royalty talk is like me in T7, I could play any character I pick up Blue/Tekken Emperor level, which was my level, but I choose to play this character because it's the one I click with the most, they're the character I want to truly master.
@Chaoblahippo
@Chaoblahippo 5 ай бұрын
I think kazuyas df2 counts as a defensive crutch of sorts. Part of a good offense is staying safe and non steppable while doing it. And kaz has one of the best homing moves in df2 and ws3
@ilovenierreplicant2983
@ilovenierreplicant2983 26 күн бұрын
Your channel is sick as hell. I have a question as a purple rank Reina, who is a worthwhile character to play as whose weaknesses are Reina's strength? I've been floating around the idea of Bryan since he seems different enough, Zafrina, and Xiayou. I think your mention of Steve and his lack of good lows is another one I should consider. Are these solid choices?
@AaIsForAaliyas
@AaIsForAaliyas 5 ай бұрын
I was a Raven main, Master Raven in T7. I found she has better tools than Raven in Tekken 8 especially the deletion of certain moves and the jab blind roll that now leaves you to get hit. I've dropped Raven @Battle Ruler, and played some Zafina. Dropped Zafina and now I think I'm going to main Bryan. Not for his damage output in the game or the same combos I constantly see from other players. But his movement diversity and his counterhit potential. I believe that's why I liked Raven in Tekken 8 was his mixups and forcing a player to go low, mid or high and break them. Well, Bryan has something similar with his movement as well. On top of counterhit. I find him to be more difficult. But I'm actually learning the frames with Bryan. Zafina made me learn to side step and get better defense. I believe Bryan is making me slow down apply defense better movement side stepping and looking out for opportunities to counterhit. I may have found my ace. And I can't wait to get even better with this character imo
@daru9932
@daru9932 5 ай бұрын
Im new tekken8, I started with Lee as a b33 merchant, but now I'm trying out Kazuya. Thanks
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