Why You (Probably) Shouldn't Get Into Retro Gaming

I think this video kinda sucks but you better watch it anyway (please).
Let me know your thoughts in the comments.
50 likes and i make a better video

[@caseystrange]

Young millennial bitches about the price of retro games while advocating emulation..... Dude go watch your anime and play Fortnite or something..

[@barrelofjim]

real.

[@prezidenttrump5171]

He'll actually just be emulating games and not paying crazy prices for them. You'll still be crying about Millennials like the tranz you are.

[@theoswetpets4191]

And acting like playing the games on a phone is just as good. One problem is he's not old enough to be nostalgic about a lot of these games. He's Aldo clearly not a true retro collector because we actually do indeed play these old games everyday. It's hard for me to hate on people usually. This guy sucks though

[@TheTenCentStory]

@@theoswetpets4191 Nostalgism is a garbage

[@cjlashawn9186]

Scalped old games that run like shit, looks like shit due to low resolution, or free roms that can take advantage of modern hardware. I choose free

[@arranmc182]

i use to collect retro games but the prices got stupid so i sold all my retro collection, i can play 95% of the retro games i use to play on my PC anyways and saves me so much money.

[@ilyeser1708]

"the prices got stupid so I sold all my retro collection" I like how you point out the stupidity of the prices but still make it profitable for you 😂 Who wouldn't though

[@b4rs629]

@@ilyeser1708 I sold off my small nintendo collection of 40-50 games ranging from gbc, gba, gamecube, & wii. I sold it cuz I didn't play it anymore due to beating them all as a kid. Figured someone else could find enjoyment out of it instead of sitting on a shelf for years on end just to collect dust.

[@moxy1701]

I've seen the crazy prices these days and have slowed down my collecting because of that, but why did you sell your existing collection? To take advantage of the "stupid" prices?😁 TBH, I've sold a couple of my doubles for crazy prices too!😉

[@adultmoshifan87]

Even with the current issues with the collector’s market, I still think you SHOULD get into retro gaming. The current gaming scene is a JOKE! Games making you download a 50GB every week, games bullying you into remortgaging your house to get more lootboxes, demos sold as full games, games released in an unplayable state, it’s horrendous! With retro games, quality and user-friendliness are a LOT more likely!

[@barrelofjim]

While that may be true, I'd argue that dismissing modern games as inferior is negligent towards a lot of, especially indie, games. Though yeah! Revisiting older games is a really good idea in general. However, I think the main idea of collecting still isn't the right choice for most people.

[@jimmyheights5143]

@@barrelofjim This dude totally missed the point of your video. Don’t worry I understood the assignment.

[@Wanzie]

I tell everyone now that if you want to get into retro gaming use emulation programs and or homebrew your consoles.

[@barrelofjim]

Based, emulation supremacy 🔥🔥

[@emanuelruiz7710]

The preservation of retro gaming has kept my modded Wii u, 3ds and ps Vita alive to this day. Also the steam deck lol

[@nitrosophelin]

those or to get japanese games if you absolutely want physical retro games, they're much cheaper than the us counterparts especially famicom, sfc and sega saturn

[@Akirapoet]

An Xbox Series S/X with Retroarch, Flycast, Dolphin and Duckstation is retroheaven. I have an Anbernic console and the games look awesome, way better than the ones on the original hardware.

[@mobilesuitjesse]

Exactly

[@pauljacob99]

The problem isn’t those who want the game buying it, it is the crowd that buy it because they think it will go up in price whether they want the game or not. I’ve noticed an almost hysteria over the past couple years from that crowd. Any KZbinr with a following mentions “buy this game before you can no longer find it” and next thing you know listing prices double or triple.

[@Dolgorath]

I think in general youtubers have been bad for retro collecting because they will fuel buying hysteria or "omg look at my thrift finds" and as a result stores like Goodwill caught on to what they had and stopped putting gaming stuff on their shelves all together.

[@moxy1701]

That depends why and how you collect. I buy games that I play and enjoy, not just because they happen to be a popular trend right now!🙂

[@scpnoobers]

If you REALLY want to collect old school games you should 1. Ask family 2. Look around the house 3. Go to garage sales, yard sales, flea markets, etc 4. Idk find in other ways that isn’t overpriced

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Or just emulate them.

[@scpnoobers]

@@MJ-uk6lu ODEs or flash carts are also a good option!

[@Cyber_Akuma]

I agree, the problem is that people started to decide that their old worthless games were suddenly worth something. Suddenly everyone thought their 20 year old copy of Super Mario World was like the next Nintendo World Championships or other rare carts that went for thousands. I remember buying dozens of PS1 and N64 games back in 2007, before retro exploded... they were $1-5. Not joking, several N64 games I got for $1. Amazon had dozens of copies SEALED of Perfect Dark for $3. Even back in the mid to late 90s NES games like Zelda were going for 25 cents. It's this sudden obsession with collecting and places like Wata that try to drive up prices and make it seem like every old game is gold that caused this insane jump in prices. I remember an AVGN episode where he bought a 32X for like $3 then shot it with an arrow... now you are lucky to find a working one for $50. And no, it's not inflation. Inflation did not make things that cost $3 back in 2007 cost $60-80 today, if that was true then candy bars would be $100 right now.

[@redcrimson1028]

Nice one. Wish I had a time machine to go back to 2007.

[@Fragninja]

lol no joke my collection ( I had since I was a kid) has several ordinary titles are now worth $80 my rare (ArmoredCore 1(Ps)) is worth $200I would never sell but wow

[@missquark_]

It's called offer and demand, but an artificial one, ever since the pandemic the scalpers amassed everything they could knowing that nostalgia was kicking in. I'm glad of my collection, i grow it ever since i was a kid in the 80s. I think of it like an investment that blew up way more than I'd ever expect. I am sure prices will go down, but I'll still be proud of my collection.

[@Cyber_Akuma]

@@missquark_ It's supply and demand, not offer and demand. And no, it didn't happen due to Covid, prices of retro games skyrocketed years before Covid ever hit.

[@chimrichalds81]

​@@Cyber_Akuma and during COVID there was a second boom. Look at pricecharting. Easy math 🤣

[@psxfoxhound]

The ps3 example hit hard. I remember a couple years ago I was forced to get a Ps3 because I got super into Metal Gear solid, but Metal Gear solid 4 has literally never been re-released on anything since it came out on Ps3, and I couldn’t just emulate it because I don’t have a very powerful Pc. I got lucky and was able to get a fat Ps3 for around 80 bucks, but it was scary looking at the prices online and seeing how much money I had to potentially shell out just to play 1 game. That experience made me realize how awful things would be if emulation didn’t exist. I also may have the ps3 now, but since I got a fat Ps3 I’m scared the thing is going to explode one of these days; it gets so hot and the fan is so loud at times.

[@pastamaniac6794]

I would recommend you look at the video from the KZbinr mystic to help your fat ps3 last longer. :) The video is called "building the ultimate ps3"

[@AgentMorgan2010]

I did everything I could to prolong the life of my beloved 60 gig PS3, and it still died on me. Those old units are just way too unstable. My super slim's still goin' strong. It's cool and quiet. Then again, it doesn't get anywhere near the amount of use these days.

[@1invag]

​​​@Spiral yeah ps3's Atleast in the uk are dirt cheap. Most consoles are, you can get pretty much any retro console on ebay for no more than £70. The exceptions being turbo grafix and neogeo because only 6 people in the uk bought one of those originally. The games are the inflated part of the equation

[@ricenoodles632]

Also luckily the game market price is 5 dollars on ebay

[@malextv6390]

Great video! I wish that the hobby hasn't been made so unaffordable, as it's really fun to play games as they were originally meant to be played. Not because emulation is bad, not at all its a great alternative. But booting up the original hardware and putting the disc/cartridge in, feels sorta special? Like experiencing something from a different time and how it was made to be played, and a lot of people just can't afford do that now. Also DKoldies isn't just bad for their prices but they often list ''refurbished'' products for more which is fair, until you get it and its evidently not refurbished.

[@usedtoenails4sale741]

Fr it’s about the experience 😩 too bad any and all older Pokémon games are suddenly worth a fortune tho 💔

[@saki3963]

The modern snes and nes mini is a pretty good way to acquire retro consoles. Reproduced and replica games will also be a good way to get retro games for cheap. This is personally what i did as i like having games and consoles physically. Though if you don't care about that then emulation is definitely the way to go

[@okamijubei]

yes but the problems with some of those is that they may have a slow buffer or not all games are there because of copyright and licensing issue or some are just went off tone or out of sync and such.

[@TheChoosh]

It’s more morally correct to download roms for free than to buy reproduced cartridges with the roms stuffed in them.

[@inmundo6927]

​@@TheChoosh how is it more "morally correct"? In both cases you are getting roms down from the internet. In the first scenario you are downloading them yourself and playing them right on the computer through an emulator. In the second scenario, someone has done the exact same, only that they also went further and burned the roms into a physical eprom, attached it to a cartridge so that you can play it in an original console (in a way helping to preserve them) and put a price on this SERVICE, which you are free to take or leave. Of course they don't own the rights to the roms, but neither do you!

[@90sNath]

Honestly, those are really good ways to go about emulation imo

[@jorggito12345]

The issue with emulation is that is not always 100% accurate with the original system. Sometimes there's some missing effects or directly the game doesn't work as it should be. I think a good alternative for retrogaming are flashcarts. Consoles usually aren't too expensive, and alongside with a flashcart you can play basically what you want, and still being 100% accurate with the system. As for moderm platforms like PS1, PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, etc, I prefet softmodding so I can play backups via hard drive. Nice video ^^" Greetings from Spain.

[@BenisBroductions]

at this point emulation has gotten so good up to the wii era you wont really have any problems

[@jorggito12345]

@@BenisBroductions I disagree. For example, in PCSX2 (at least with previous builds, not sure if now is fixed) in some games the fog is rendered very poorly, like in WRC 04 or Metal Gear Solid 3. Also, in some GBA/GBC emulators, they don't emulate the LCD ghosting like it should be. In some original hardware you even experience some slowdowns which in most emulators fix as well. I know they're some very minimal details but in my opinion an emulator will never be as accurate as a console, that's why there're other alternatives like softmodding or cartridges

[@BenisBroductions]

@@jorggito12345 oh damn maybe we just play different games. From my experience the recent emulation scene has been so good I haven’t really seen many flaws. Also upscaling can be a god send. So for me that bumps it to be even better than a console experience. But it’s not perfect . And the Sometimes you’ll get little hiccups. but from my experience the pros FAR outweigh the cons.plus the added convenience of emulation is amazing.

[@BenisBroductions]

@@jorggito12345 I get the novelty of retro game collecting but to me the actual best way to play the games is through emulation

[@inmundo6927]

another thing you can't get with emulation is GLITCHES!! And there are some beautiful freeze screens in there. All pure 8-bit art.

[@mr.selfimprovement3241]

*_Well first off:_* Most of these retro consoles are WELL OVER 25 years old... MUCH older in fact. The NES alone is 38 years old this year (famicom/japanense NES is several years older), and the Atari 2600 (my first console) is closing in on 46 years old. There are older consoles, but Atari 2600 and collecovision are probably the oldest you will see any actual number of people still break out and use on rare occasion (and those people are the most dedicated in the retro gaming community). *_Secondly:_* As someone who was ACTIVELY collecting video games from 1996-2012 (as in: buying them to put in large shelves to brag about... I collected over 3,000 titles by 2010) from places like pawn shops, yard sales, obscure websites - and even ebay as early as 1998 (the year it launched) - I can tell you that there has always been a small market of resellers and buyers of older video games, and different games had wildly different values. I had a part time job in High School and spend every dime on games, and I can tell you that there have ALWAYS been games worth more eye watering money than they were worth.... even when they were only a few years old. I VIVIDLY remember buying Suikoden II (PS1) on eBay for $200 in 2001, and Panzer Dragoon Saga (Saturn) That same year for $250. I also remember buying Tomba! (PS1) in 2000 for $80 used. I even remember dropping $80 on DIgimon World 2 (PS1) in 2005 because I missed its unusually late release, and it was limited print and valuable already on eBay. Usually JRPGs and Obscure Japanese games on PS1 and Saturn always were worth more than they were new. Probably because fans back then just wanted to play them, and emulation still wasn't there yet... plus most people did not have the fast internet required to download ROMs that big. *_The Issue is:_* MOST old cartridge consoles (minus the GBA - there has never been a time its best games were not overpriced) before 2003, were worth practically nothing. Minus some of those RPGs (Earthbound, FFIII, Secret of Mana, Zelda AtoTP, etc) and a few coveted Capcom/Konami games (Megaman/X games, Castlevanias, and Contra games) - no one cared about those consoles. The ONLY reasons RPGs and stuff like mega man still had value, was the strong fan bases of those. *_After KZbin got popular and we got retro gaming channels, that was it:_* People started buying these old games and acting like each one was a hidden gem or something, Even in the late 90s and early 2000s some of the hardware ALWAYS had some value (like MVS, Top Loader NES, Virtual Boy, Turbo Duo) because older folks selling them remembered what they costed new (it had not been all that long after all). The Games themselves however, often had little value. Now to be fair, conversely, when you see all these countless (faceless) people on the internet these days saying: *_"In 2007 I bought all these games for $1!" or "In 2011 I bought so-in-so [insert rare title] from the store for $5!"..._* well those people are full of BS. Outside of yard sales, most other places you would find older games would want a cut. Whether it was eBay fees, Pawnshop wanting its profit, etc... but it WAS true that you could buy games generally between $5-20 each (even ones going for hundreds now)... and $40-$70 for a REALLY sought after/rare game (usually RPGs) was typical. *_What drove the big change was the KZbinrs that got big:_* think AVGN, Metal Jesus, Gamesack, etc. They ruined everything for people wanting to just play retro games for cheap. This was a result of emulation still being in its infancy compared to today. Even though many emulators had been around since the mid 1990s (think NESticle) - they were FAR from accurate, fast, or fully compatible, And since you needed a high end PC to even play them - it really was not a option for most. For a decade that fact restricted people from playing all these games, and forced people to contend with the used market.... But that has all changed in the last 8-10 or so years. *_Technology has advanced so much:_* Now your phone can emulate almost any old system perfectly - and so with it, the emulation scene was grown and matured into one that most of us couldn't have even dreamed of even as recently as the xbox 360 and Ps3 gen. Now we have micro PCs that cost literally $20 that can emulate all this stuff; and we have literally hundreds (if not thousands) of handhelds, raspberry pi clones, Soc, etc-etc devices. You can even hack your existing consoles, or buy flash carts. Its a crazy world. And that doesn't even get into the convenience of FPGA systems (like the MISTER or Analogue Pocket) or dropping ROMs onto your Xbox Series S/X, Steam Deck, or (again) the Smart Phone in your pocket (just to name a few options). I have even seen videos of wealthier people playing emulated games on their Samsung smart refrigerators, smart watches, and even TESLAs (someone even got doom working on a calculators years back)! And in a just a few more years PS2 will have FPGA cores, and emulators that finally offer 100% compatibility without a million tweaks. *_As For Me/What I Did:_* As I mentioned above, I eventually collected a little over 3,000 games. I had to get my dad to help me (using a truck) get a bunch of old wall display shelves (6ftx6ft) for a Blockbuster that was going out of business near by, to put them all in my room... I wish I was joking but, hey' I was young m0ronic guy who watched too much MTV and Jack@ss). lol. ...I had to take my bed, dressers, everything out of the room just to fit the shelves in and fill them with games. My room looked like a video store (wall to wall games), with a small 20" TV on a crate in the center of the floor, and I slept on a mattress in the middle of the room because there was no room left to live. *_I WAS ADDICTED TO BUYING AND HOARDING/COLLECTING VIDEOGAMES!_* So long story short, by the time the PS4 was announced, and retro games started to gain some popularity, I sold EVERYTHING. My stuff would be worth $40-50K now probably - but at the time the 12K I got for everything (I sold them as a single massive room LOT on eBay to a guy who drove from 3 states away to pick them up to resale at conventions) - it was enough for me to afford to finally move out of the house before my 30th birthday (blame the 2008 housing crash and recession that followed), and put a down payment on my first that car that wasn't older than me, or complete garbage on wheels that I had to hold together with tears, prayers, and a whole lot of duct tape (literally, lol). I bought as Raspberry Pi (either a Pi1 or Pi 2B), and started getting into emulation - I have never looked back. These days I stepped up to a MISTER FPGA with some 8Bitdo controllers, and I have a Steam Deck and Gaming PC. I emulate most the systems I play, outside of modern stuff like PS4/5... and even switch I occasionally dabble in the emulation (*Cough**Cough*). I actually do still have a old PS2 and GC somewhere around in storage that I never got around to selling; they both have hacks/mod to play ROMs... but I rarely use them, and they were cheap alterations (free in the case of the PS2). ------------------------ *_TLDR:_* Unless you are a older millennial like me, and grew up playing these games on a CRT (which you also need to still have), and get nostalgia playing them with those fuzzy coaxial or AV cables on a 13-20" boobtoob... then you gain nothing playing the original hardware, carts/discs, and etc as a Zoomer or young millennial. Older Millennials and Gen X guys can claim how CRT technology was superior and the artists/designers made the games around them... but it's unreasonable to expect young people today to spend the time and crazy money to buy all the required things. A emulator and a HDTV/monitor is 75% the way to the same experience for 0% the cost... and the games themselves are 100% the same (if not better with possible cheats, hacks, or mods)! The money people my age spend on these games, is NOT to only make them look better (no matter what they claim) - it is to capture some of that same nostalgic feeling of being a carefree kid back in the simpler days of the 70s/80s and 90s. Something lost on most you younger guys, and frankly: a fool errand for older middle-aged guys wasting money and time running on a treadmill year after year constantly chasing a fleeting feeling that they can never reproduce. We are old, those days are over, life sucks now for us - really, grow up guys. Be adults. The world really needs adults right now... and Zoomers... Suckle that t33t of the Emulation goddess! The retro gaming world is your oyster and its mostly free!

[@barrelofjim]

Thanks for your comment, lots of detail in there! Probably doesn't deserve to under such a small channel imo. Yeah, when i said 25 years I was meaning handhelds, which i should have been clearer on, however that would still be a bit off because I often forget its far from 2016 now. I don't really know how much younger you're talking, but my parents didn't get an LCD TV until 2009, and most friends I knew had even their 360s hooked up to a CRT. If you were a working adult in the 2000s perhaps you did have a HD plasma or (unfortunately) a rear projection. However, teenagers and kids usually don't have that much money lol, and a lot of parents didn't either. Sure maybe if you're a kid now you wouldn't have that air of nostalgia over old electronics, but the youngest millennials/older Gen Z are quickly nearing 30. Rare things were absolutely always expensive, but I don't think I'm wrong in saying prices were increasing, but relatively stable up until a handful of years ago. I do think you're right about KZbin, but idk when it was exactly. Lots of those channels were around for years, however it seems to have really picked up recently. Awesome insight though!

[@AgentMorgan2010]

I wouldn't place the blame on the likes of AVGN. Yes, he has a lot of shit. But amassing a bunch of shit has never been the point or the focus of his channel. KZbinrs like MetalJesus, however: absolutely. The KZbinrs that film all their videos in front of their 8 ft high walls of video game shelving shit in every shot, that basically do nothing but "pick-ups" and "hidden gem" videos that foment the rabid FOMO in their audience... _those_ types have certainly had a big hand in the massive over-inflation in the market we're now seeing. I'm ashamed to say that I've even gotten caught up from time to time. Emulation is definitely the way to go (for the most part), and I'm ready to see this retro balloon pop.

[@Mario-zi8wr]

Lmfao gatekeeper

[@HollowRick]

As a 31 year old millennial who got into collecting playstation 1, playstation 2 and SNES 10 years ago and still plays those systems and my collection regularly on a 27 inch sony Trinitron needed to hear this... I'm chasing a feeling.. as if it was about the games I'd just emulate them 😢

[@Mario-zi8wr]

What’s going to happen with these old hardware when people who grew up with them die?

[@zachattack1279]

I wanna collect games for two reasons 1. I want an excuse to jump outside the Nintendo sphere (meaning I want to play the games I collect) 2. I’m a HUGE physical media nut My original plan was to try to collect every game I could reasonably get my hands on but now seeing today’s prices I’m gonna have to scale back my efforts. I’m also not sure if it’s worth getting any games/consoles prior to the PS1/N64 or any handhelds/games prior to the GBA since in don’t know if I’ll play them enough to warrant them taking up space

[@maytheforcebewithyou5923]

A couple of years ago I decided to buy again my childhoods consoles. What I found is that many people think that the console is broken while they are really fixable. I took a chance on a PS1 slim (broken) it needed new jack for the power. N64 broken , just cleaning inside, Gameboy g and colour with broken screens. Bought new screens for like 30 bucks from china

[@barrelofjim]

Absolutely, I've done this before myself. Keep that ewaste out of landfill 100%

[@pigs18]

I bought a 5200 cheap because the owner couldn't find the power outlet and thought it was broken. (Also, if the controllers don't work on it, it's probably a simple, off the shelf chip that needs to be replaced in the console itself.) I bought a WiiU that just had a quarter stuck in the disc drive, and a 7800 with a cracked case, most of which could be repaired with some Gorilla Glue. I bought a Vectrex controller with a missing knob for half price and bought the knob online for less than ten bucks shipped. There are good console deals if you don't mind buying them separately. (Xbox360 and Kinect will almost always be cheaper separately.)

[@maytheforcebewithyou5923]

Small update I found in eBay 15 dollars "broken" Wii. It needed 20 dollars from china disk drive! I moded it and my daughter loves it

[@dingusbingus7463]

I have a project win98 laptop that goes for over $100 I got for $13 and the fix is a on average $3 CMOS battery. People in this hobby sometimes forget to look with patience and be optimistic. This hobby is very much another mans trash is another mans treasure

[@inmundo6927]

but how would you know what kind of broken it could have?? Or that it isnt broken beyond repair...

[@moxy1701]

I've been collecting games since the 1980s and I have picked them up all over the place! For the best overall prices, you just need to know where to pick them up! Garage sales, small booths in the back of flea markets, thrift shops, and small pawn shops are generally good places to shop.😊😊

[@AskeGuitar]

Honestly checked out at this point. I recall a decade ago thinking $20 for silent Hill 1 was way too much and now I wish I could go back. Idk I'm strange in that it'd be nice to have a micro collection physically of my favorite series', but I'm not insane. I've just stuck with emulation since it's so much more convenient on every level. Might try and do some console mods to play backups, but some of those are pricey too, just for the "authentic experience"

[@emanuelruiz7710]

Totally, had to order a Wii u and 3ds from Japan because they are so much cheaper. The modding of a Japanese Wii u was a pain in the ass but worth the money I saved.

[@emanuelruiz7710]

@Rage Kage nice lol. I remember the PS2 had to pull the disc tray manually while the PS2 was on. I could be remembering it wrong tho. The 64 had tabs we had to file down on the cartridge to fit before all these 3d printed stuff they make for it now. The good ol days lol

[@jamesbevan4479]

I sold all my old old stuff (everything before ps2) and bought a laptop last year for emulating (and other windows stuff) but mainly emulation. It can hdmi to my TV, all my controllers work on it via retroarch (8bitdo, Sony, xbox), I love it. Best thing I ever did. Now I own a retroarch laptop, a ps2, a Wii, a ps3, a xb series S, a ps5 and a switch. The amount of storage room I've saved, the money I've saved not chasing ebay no more. Emulation is the future. 😊

[@BashoStrikes]

I'm a retro collector - I collect consoles and mod them to play the hundreds of thousands of roms I have collected. Thank you.

[@ricenoodles632]

This is the big brain move

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

I do the same.

[@simplyelwin]

There are some great eBay sellers out there who refurbish older consoles and charge a reasonable price. I’ve always foungpd this the best way to go for buying used consoles.

[@rayminishi689]

I remember buying Heartgold for $35 in 2013 and thought it was pricey. Fast forward, it's $100 and everyone is asking for the same fucking price Like no one just wants to get rid of it, they search ebay prices and keep it listed while moaning that there isnt a buyer unless desperate or high on nostalgia

[@frizzyrascal1493]

Heartgold and Silver (practically new) go for 50-50€ here

[@barrelofjim]

Ikr, I remember passing on 1st and 2nd gen pokemon because $30 was a lot for a gb game. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

[@AFCManUk]

I think you're pretty safe financially if you want to get into collecting retro CARTRIDGE games...But even I've noticed, some of my older CD's and DVD's from the 90's are starting to degrade quite rapidly, so it's best to avoid collecting ANYTHING that uses discs. This includes consoles such as Sony Playstation, XBox, Sega Genesis CDX, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo Gamecube and Sega Dreamcast. You could wake up in 25-30 years time, only to find your precious collection of retro games has degraded and all the discs have become unreadable!

[@Tay12345]

They would probably still be worth money even if it was unreadable because people would act like their rotten discs are worth the same as they were

[@barrelofjim]

Cartridge games can be ridiculously expensive though sometimes.

[@AFCManUk]

@@barrelofjim Very true. Worth spending time going around car boot sales and garage sales in the summer months. Best places to find bargains, as most people there just want to get rid of stuff. Even faulty cartridge games are relatively simple to fix if you know your way around a soldering iron.

[@Ed-yj1ux]

cartridges are just bulletproof they are still going strong and will outlast us, all they need is a nice clean from their pins most of the time and boot right up.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

Fortunately game dumping exists so you can protect your disk based games.

[@RPKGameVids]

I prefer to have the 100% authentic experience, but that's just me, maybe part of it is nostalgia.

[@markbeach8996]

Only thing to say is to the market is “ hoist up the colors boys ,let’s go sailing “

[@sigelsegal2297]

At this point im only hunting controllers to use on my steam deck. It would be nice to own every n64 game out there but most of it it pointless if you just want to game with friends. Also, Netplay is a god send which many people havent even properly experienced.

[@bluetarantulaproductions6179]

I find it depends who or where you buy them from. The best places to buy retro games are usually garage sales, flea markets, thrift stores, gaming/entertainment expos, Amazon, or your local retro gaming store(s) or mom and pop shops. I recently bought Batman: The brave and the bold (wii) for $15 at a gaming store (Game City) in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

[@mekman4]

Piracy is still theft. Just because it’s easy to do doesn’t mean it’s not illegal or amoral. You’ll understand when you’re older. People conscientiously do pay attention to these kinds of things, emulation is it’s own kind of clutter too. Nothing is more expensive than free.

[@FlyingSurprise]

Playing snes games on my snes with the original controller, RGB and OSSC is simply awesome. Then I use a SD2SNES of course for the games.

[@ezhumbug]

I wouldn't call myself a collector since I'm just targeting games that I want to play and enjoy, most being nostalgia from child and rest are some I never played especially the Japanese games on Nintendo having some really good games that never get a translation and of course some exclusive consoles but most the time I'm able to find great prices due to its condition but its repairable if you have the skill that is.

[@Oribaa90]

I found my way. I buy original hardware because I love playing on original consoles but I also buy an ODE, flashcart or hard drive for all my consoles. All those great solutions revolutionized retro gaming.

[@barrelofjim]

This is an awesome middle ground for sure!

[@DEXA_Entertainment]

For me I primarily buy the consoles for the novelty of holding it how it operates and what I can do with it.

[@GameJunctionMedia]

Great video. Retro gaming, and collecting as a whole, isn’t for everyone.

[@Tkillaahh]

To be able to play retro games the way i did that 25 years ago, again on a small tube tv, it'd be fun because i was very young when i used to experience that. But i wouldn't spend 1000s of dollars on it because of the reason that you explain. I could never ever get used of playing rretro games on my phone, on my tv via a wii or on my computer, it's fun to see and hear all the media again, but it doesn't bring the same joy that i had when playing it 25 years ago. The steam deck on the other hand, the experience of playing retro games on it is just much better then on the phone, wii, computer or flatscreen tv, i played lots of retro games on it and also finished some on my steam deck.

[@SuperKhalid95]

I used to collect retro back in the days, but years ago I sold them & now I’m more into emulation.

[@choboutube]

Earthworm Jim! Don't eat him! Context: back in the day, a gaming magazine in the UK gave away a lollilop with a worm in it to promote EWJ2. And that was their tagline.

[@jimmyheights5143]

I only collect consoles as I got into collecting two years ago. I got over twenty consoles and buy games as I feel like playing them.

[@pigs18]

Good luck. Word of advice: avoid the rabbit holes like Pong consoles.

[@orenjiTK]

I kinda agree with this. If it is a current gen console yeah buy it if you want as long as it is available to purchase. If it is really old, just emulate it.

[@saki3963]

The physicality is a major part of it tho

[@barrelofjim]

Absolutely! It's just important to keep in mind when the line is crossed. The physicality probably isn't worth several hundred dollars to most people.

[@VampireA1056]

Retro Gaming > Modern Gaming for the most part.

[@Mikasukin]

Indeed, this is just an opion.

[@matejamicic3037]

here's a simple solution,just emulate,you can do it on a pc or a phone or even mod a handheld like a 3ds or wii u or ps vita,you can play the games you don't need to buy the games or the hardware plus you can do a bunch of tweaking they can look really sharp and good

[@e.t1031]

Yeah that's why 3ds price is skyrocketing

[@spectrumbots4268]

I always emulate and buy ports of old games on newer platforms.

[@tonicipirani7659]

Nostalgia plays a big part in the skyrocketing prices.

[@rykyok]

playing on the original hardware with all of the peripherals to me is a better gaming experience than emulating imo (especially for consoles that have gimmicky controllers and features like the n64 and dreamcast) and try to play on original hardware if its convenient enough for me to do so. that said i dont buy any games for my retro consoles, i just get flashcarts, mod them, or burn cds. the only thing i really collect is retro hardware. if you dont have the financial means to tho pls do emulate, but there are solutions to play retro games authentically for barely if not no money at all

[@barrelofjim]

True, I think I could've outlined my opinions a bit better; the problem isn't collecting, I collect. It's speculation and price gouging. I personally think the best combination is real hardware with a flash cart or equivalent (so long as the game isn't being at actively sold ofc).

[@renerodriguez9055]

I know it's not the same like cartridges and disc but I'm so glad that I have 6 modded consoles like 1. Nintendo Wii that has retros like Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Sega Genesis, MAME ARCADE that has Over 10,000 Games, 2. Xbox 360 RGH that has 1,027 original Xbox & Xbox 360 Games that I'm trying to sell 3. PlayStation 4 w/ firmware 9.0FW has 60 Games 4. PlayStation 4 that's not modded so I could buy games at the PlayStation Store that has 127 Games 5. Nintendo switch that also has retros as well that has 223 switch games 6. My all-time favorite console that I own is the PlayStation 3 slim that has 300 exclusive best games that's on the ps3, and not only it also you can play PlayStation 1 and Playstation 2 games and the PlayStation 3 console has a game shop that you could download more games so I'm really glad that I have this set of consoles and I ain't played in on an 75in LG with LG sound system

[@iBMcFly]

I def do not trust people who discourage others from getting into retro gaming.

[@barrelofjim]

Its not meant as a discouragement. I think it's free for everyone as all should be. I just wanted to outline my issues with price unreasonable price speculation.

[@ilyeser1708]

Thank you for this opinion, I totally agree. Too many collectors buy games just to own them and never play them. Those same people feel sorry about the inflation of the market while they're literally the half of the cause of why it's inflating. Also too many people start a collection because their favorite KZbinr does. Sorry guys but the inflation is not actually on the scalpers. Scalpers exist in every market where demands are increasing and offers are shrinking, we all know that and so let's stop pretending we didn't. I'm not telling people to not buy anymore of course, I'm just pointing out the actual cause of the inflation.

[@Viper-jr4sp]

i got into the hobby back in 2015 when i got mgs twin snakes for 50$ then got a GBC a year later or so since then i own over 34 consoles handhelds included and probably 200 or so games but i did notice when the pandemic hit everyone started getting into the hobby because what else do you do stuck at home so alot of the games i bought skyrocketed in price it is much harder now to get into the hobby but for me i've slowed down on it because of that im still a collector but i really watch and try to justify purchases i recently found a copy of SH Shattered Memories for the ps2 my aunt bought me years ago she paid idk 40$ looked online and it goes for 400-600$ CAD like HOW?!?! im gonna make sure to keep it safe because thats alot but that really shows how stupid the prices have gone up might as well just emulate in the end i like both methods but emulation is going to be the easier option for people who don't wanna spend hundreds of $$$

[@Izeneye]

I had to pay $106 for shattered memories for PSP it's sad that games like those are going up so high in price

[@israelgigachad8794]

underated youtuber

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

Sry Bud too late... Been buying Retro Gaming stuff left&right for since the past 2 years, right when the ridiculous Retro Prizes *"Emerged"*

[@Thesayinciyan]

Yeah, you should not get into retro gaming because who needs to be happy in life

[@lpcamargo]

There are ways of getting authentic experiences that don't involve spending so much. FPGA systems are expensive but are super versatile and accurate, and can be a million systems in one, way into the foreseeable future. Flashcarts are a godsend if you want to use a console for actually playing games instead of showing off. Heck, I'd argue that most people wanting to play retro stuff just need a copy of Retroarch on their existing phone, and something like the Razer Kishin (a cheaper alternative to it).In the end the only consoles I still own are the Switch (which I've had since buying it year one), and a Mega Drive with a flashcart, that I modded myself, for development and nostalgia reasons. All the rest happens on the PC, and it isn't even a very good one at that.

[@richardswordbass]

Great video!

[@Louis16261]

If you think peoples "buy it now" prices are too high then just buy from auction style listings, where you pay market value. I am not sure what the issue is?

[@stephenbanks5860]

The auction prices start very high in many cases, almost what he "buy it now" prices are.

[@myria2834]

I am into retro gaming, but because the total file size of every console before the playstation, including the N64, is so tiny; I saved the money I would have spent on physical media, and will just buy controllers to get the "authentic" feel. Only systems I can justify owning original hardware for are the entire DS line, up to the *new 3DS, The PS Vita, and the Wii U. Hard to emulate the dual screen functionality, or the back touch pad, in a comfortable way. The PS5 runs PS4 games just fine, The Xbox Series runs Xbox One games just fine, people have gotten the Wiimote sensors working on PC, and PS3 emulation is pretty stable now, so unique control gimicks are the only real complication. (outside the spotty compatibility of original Xbox and 360 title emulation, but give them time.)

[@billcook4768]

Retro gaming is awesome. Retro game collecting? Probably best avoided unless you are continuing a collection you’ve long worked on.

[@rbgamingnetwork2]

Original hardware + flashcart and emulation is good enough for me. I quit game collecting in 1996, and got into emulation then.

[@Iamwaytoooldforthis90]

That was an amazing video dude! for you to only have 300 subs is a sin😮 keep doing your thing

[@sam_20_]

I collect for ps2/3/4 (about 250 games combined), always bought games used and on sale. Also it helps a lot that the games I like are dirt cheap and very common 😂 So yeah if I want to play the 300buck game, I’m going emulation!

[@loxdude]

I mean I got my stuff at a local flea market. An N 64 with 2 Controllers and 2 games for 70 bucks is still okay just because I wanted to. On ebay I would be broke for years to come. Its not necessary but i like to play it this way. Everyone that doesn't REALLY need it emulate.

[@barrelofjim]

At the end of the day it's really about what you want, awesome that you got that deal! It's just disappointing when someone else would turn that same deal around for more than double that.

[@pongopeter3089]

I disagree, I think retro games run better on actual hardware or something legal like a game compilation on a modern console. Video game piracy is never the answer. Fair use is your friend.

[@nunyabusiness896]

Honestly, spot on, and I've been saying this for a long time. I was early on the emulation bandwagon starting back in about 97 when my neighbor had some on his computer. Emulation was incomplete and buggy back then but even still it was amazing. I even had Connectix Virtual Gamestation instead of a real PS1, so my "retro" PS1 experience is actually a commercial emulator for my computer with a USB playstation-clone controller. Somewhere along the way in the late 00's I started collecting retro games for usually about $3 a piece when no one wanted them and maybe spent $20 for rare titles that sell for well north of $100 today. Back then I generally played them on real hardware, but honestly for the last 10 years I haven't touched any of my physical hardware, I just emulate everything. Emulation just offers so much convenience with save states, the ability to use "cheat hardware" like Game Genie without actually needing the real device, and never having to worry about cartridge slot reliability. I also just plain don't have space to lay all the systems out and I don't want to have to hook and unhook a system every time I want to play something else. Then you have the upscaling/graphics filters that truly elevate these games to look better than they ever could've on real hardware. This becomes even more true for 3D games as old Playstation games that may have been blocky and distorted on real hardware are suddenly crisp and hi-res and almost could pass for PS2 games. Nobody gets upset when someone upgrades their PC and cranks up the graphics, but for some reason people are "super nostalgic" for all of the limitations of old hardware. There's also no way in hell I'd ever pay modern prices for retro games, forget it. I think what happened is tech bros got way overpaid and wanted to collect all the games they couldn't buy back in the day, so they all competed for complete sets until all inventory was snatched up. I'd probably cash out on most of my retro collection tomorrow if I could do it reliably without getting scammed or undercut massively by selling it as a bulk collection. It's also possible the games will continue to go up, so I'm ready to ride this rollercoaster till the end. Bottom line, I like the games, and I want to play the games in the best possible way possible. Emulators with graphics filters, upscaling, and save states is the best possible way to play so that's what I go for nowadays. Long term I only plan to keep my original childhood games and my favorite ones I've bought since, the rest can live on a hard drive.

[@eklipsegirl]

Why people keep using disposable batteries for electronics pretend that rechargeable AA and AAA batteries don't exist? Boggles my mind when they use an argument "You have to buy a lot of batteries" against something.

[@tungstentitan]

all my retro games and consoles were from freebies from family who grew out of it and friends who no longer need it

[@frogfarmer3551]

Getting a Sony Trinitron for your N64 and a Mister for the low cost of 8 Nintendo Switches will NEVER give you the feeling you had playing GoldenEye with your brother/friends etc When you're a kid, you dont have to do much to be entertained. We walked into GameStop and bought what we could afford. Like the game bully for ps2. There were no internet homies looking out to give me the solid advice to purchase that game, i only did it because it was $7

[@switchlite44]

I agree with a lot of stuff in this video however I will say I own a Ayn Odin and most handhelds ever created like a PSP, PSP go, gameboy, GBA, and psvita and much more so far I have been emulating most of my favorite childhood games and I don't have a problem with emulation at all however I do have a problem with resellers trying to mark up games from my childhood that I'd actually want to play on actual hardware so far it's been hard to get my hands on any decent priced PS Vita games and I remember just three years ago the prices were super good I just didn't have the money at the time because I wasn't working. It just really sucks for anybody try to get into the lobby

[@barrelofjim]

Edit: Thanks for 300 subscribers everyone! Happened super quick, I'm a pretty busy guy but I'll try my best to get more stuff out ASAP. I am alive, I wasted a bunch of time with this one, and apologies for it not being on topic, hope you like it somewhat anyway. Like if you want to see more. Thank you!

[@TheDigi321]

good video and I agree it is crazy A local shop near me bought almost EVERYONE out (except gamestop) and I am a "fan" of the dreamcast, I am not A huge fan, but it was one of my first "formed" memories as a child, as I would "play" sonic adventure 1 (2?) just dick about mostly in the hub area as I didnt know what I was doing....any way sorry, the dreamcast before 2020 was roughly 30 dollars, and even then they didnt sell now they are for some reason 150 dollar at this store, I don't collect games perse (I am more of a "backups"/HDD/SD user) I have a few favorites, but my thing is "collecting" consoles, but not exactly ones I grew up with, for example I have a couple of dreamcast, an n64, a few ps3, a couple of ps2s, a few wiis and a few 360s, and of course I have a last gen consoles I bought (xbox 1, ps4 , switch) now I sail the highs for games on ps3 and below as at the end of the day the developers and game studios have made their money that and the ps3 is almost 17 years old, not that the age makes it better but I dont mind playing from a harddisk, it to me saves a copy from being in my possession collection dust another thing that annoys me with the person around my area is he goes by the internet price maybe minus a few bucks, but the real kicker is that as far as I can tell the consoles and stuff never really move, Like I can tell that it seems like the same consoles are there day in and day out maybe with the exception of last gen and current gen, also as a finallyish note, I truely enjoy emulation I KNOW its not perfect, but I dont need it to be, ps2 emulation is almost all playable, heck some games run "perfect" on one of the more popular emulators, and I can sit at my PC boot up a ps2 and go back to my childhood for a bit (I even have my OG memory card digitized on my computer with MY saves and stuff) and if I feel up to it I will maybe run shaders, or upscale the image, or wide screen "hack" the game to fill my monitor

[@ApexRed2023]

I got skull monkeys for like 5 dollars

[@barrelofjim]

@@ApexRed2023 W

[@SansINess53]

you can buy a gameboy rip off, cuz one is literally a gameboy color with a blacklight, you need to get it urself.

[@RetroHabit82]

If you want to get into retro games(physical) go back in time 10 years

[@pigs18]

Buy whatever it is that no one wants now. I always see 360 games at yard sales. I recently bought a box of them for 10 bucks. (Funny thing was I was just going to sell off the extras at my annual tag sale but those coincidentally were the unplayable or missing discs.) I will sometimes pick up bulk collections and just sell off the extras at the tag sale for under "market price" just to recoup the cost and get rid of duplicates. I sold off a bunch of common PS3 games to a much older gentleman for $1 a piece. I don't know if he was going to play them or flip them but I was happy to see them go to either good cause.

[@notmyrealname1526]

I've gotten the bulk of my collection (which is over 50 consoles and roughly a thouand games) for pennies 15+ years ago, back when old games were just old games that nobody cares about. Back then thrift stores had bins with assorted cartridges that were like five bucks each. If I had to start from scratch, I wouldn't do it. The prices have become absurd and the media aren't getting better with time, disc rot is a severe issue and DS/3DS games are failing at an increasing rate too. Also, fuck emulation. I have modified my systems (got vanilla spares in case I feel like putting in a disc) to run games from SD/HDD or use flashcarts. Japanese consoles are way cheaper and usually can be modified to run US games rather easily.

[@Bird-Birdy-Love]

You can still be into retro gaming, you just have to be smart about it and dont just go for the fist thing you see and buy, do some reasearch first, see the actual general value and try to buy either current or better lower value and make sure to inspect and check your merchandise before you just go on and buy things.

[@randomweirdyoutubechannel8955]

Im gonna try retro gaming not enjoying anything other than genshin impact out of the modern stuff

[@daedalus547]

Kinda disagree... Emulation is only an answer if you can dump your own games. So either you already have a retro collection or are hurting future sales, let's be real if x game becomes available you aren't going to delete the illegally obtained ROM image and buy the newly available release, so it's straight up theft full stop. You can add all the songs and dances around the issue, but it's still theft. The problem with emulation is while they are great for playing your collections, they lack the warmth the real deal has, ever buy a new game back in the day? You get some pretty sick box art, you get manual with story and more art, it's a very different feeling then downloading some kid's scanned images, it's just not the same, then you get into other issues, like controllers, personally I only count hi-scores done on original OEM hardware, the reason behind this is the people who hold the records didn't have any options for controllers or atleast not like we have today so it cheapens their accomplishment. Also emulation makes it way easier to cheat, how many people can fully say they don't use save states for hard parts of a game? You're gonna do it because you can, that means games that depend on being hard, like contra are basically ruined. Then you have the emulation of current consoles, again straight up theft, unless you have an original switch, dumping games is not possible, so how are you legally obtaining games? The ROMs you download will contain a different certificate then you're cart or downloaded version which puts the nail in the coffin about it not being theft. Downloading a ROM with someone else's certificate is theft, Nintendo has already banned these certs from getting updates and can ban accounts and consoles straight up for using it. No against emulation, when it's used properly.

[@barrelofjim]

I agree with you, especially on cheating, pirating new games, and that physical media is charming. Though, downloading ROMs, it's a moral dilemma; even legally speaking, it's complicated. Piracy is wrong and I don't advocate for it. However, it is not theft, sure it's similar but theft involves taking something away from the owner. Where as piracy is more akin to plagiarism and the idea of inappropriately making use of work you do not have licence for. That distinction is important, main reason being a lot of these games are no longer available for licence/purchase (in the first-hand sense). Theoretically if I wanted silent hill on the ps1, paying some guy online the $250 going rate does absolutely nothing for the developers/studio, it's far more supportive to buy one of the sequels straight from steam then download the ROM somewhere. Is it right? idk, but if you love a passed artist, would you rather buy a work from a collector or set a scan as your wallpaper and donate directly to the family?

[@daedalus547]

@@barrelofjim I see where you're coming from, prices are higher then ever. But I don't know, I'm a developer myself, and the way I personally see it, is I'd want my game played by as many people as I can get, but in 10-20 years, if I decide to release the game and everyone and their grandma just pirates the old release, other then collectors what incentive do I really have for porting my old games to newer consoles? I don't think people realize how much time goes into remastering something. Code that has not been touched in years is very stale, the coding techniques over a 10-20 period would have changed, so a lot of rewriting has to be done. Well if the majority are just going to either use an older unlicensed copy or outright pirate the new copy then I don't really have any real incentive to port an existing game to a newer console. I realize piracy will always exist, but when then cons of game dev outweigh the pros its no longer worth it. Their are ways to stop most piracy, but then it starts to hurt the fan base, that is also unacceptable, I'd never put invasive DRM on any products, for one it causes access problems over time, two to me if you bought the game, it's yours in a sense that you should be able to run it anywhere.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

Wait Im confused. For your first point are you trying to argue that game dumping is theft or are you arguing that piracy is theft?

[@daedalus547]

@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 piracy is theft, dumping your own games is fine as long as you don't distribute them.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

Oh wait I read the comment again and I get what you are saying now. Never mind.

[@108kitsune]

Dang I just bought a copy of dark cloud 2 and thought it was at least $100,000 deal for $25

[@anbernicguy]

Anbernic can make retro gaming a possibility at a cheaper price.

[@barrelofjim]

Thank you AnbernicGuy!

[@W3S3333]

My refurbished, modded Sega Saturn ran me around $300, but it plays backups, or burned games. I got a CRT for $30. After I got the controllers and an Action Replay, it's now stupidly easy and cheap to enjoy classic Saturn games on the real machine on an old TV. It's nostalgic and fun.

[@HollowRick]

I did the same thing haha its great with all of the new translation coming out too it's a great time to buy a modded Saturn if you have an old CRT :D

[@mcdoink123]

I still have a collection. But I use emulation as my way to preserve what I have collected.

[@RealestKhalil]

I know this is a old comment, but yes! Smart! This is exactly what I plan on doing with my PS2 collection when I get a fat model at the moment I have a slim. I’m glad that we have the same idea. I’ve been saying this for a while now at the moment I’m focused on building my cousin a physical collection as a surprise of nostalgia. Im definitely going to put him on backing up the physical games too the hard drive to preserve the physical games.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

This is what I do. Its the smartest choice.

[@ThatIckyGuy]

I’m all for playing old games, but emulation and ports/remasters are far superior. I’d get rid of my PS3 and my PS3 games if everything I own had a good port.

[@PikangsFutaba]

Due to the stupid prices of retro stuff, if I have the hardware, I just hunt for a Flashcart, if not, seek the best way possible to replicate the experience with emulation, in case I want to sell my retro stuff, personally, I wouldn't mind to sell them overall cheap, even some of the rare stuff I have as I find stupid those prices, and if those falls in the right hands, I would feel my retro stuff really do something for the ones who REALLY want to play them.

[@vhsretrogamer1664]

6:00 This. I own a Sega Dreamcast, PS1 and a N64 with CRT TV and actually prefer to play these games on an emulator anyway. Pre PS3 emulation is 99% flawless and I see no real reason playing them on a real hardware that often. That said I till like to play a real thing sometimes. You know, when that nostalgic mood hits and I have a whole day to play them pretending it's 1999 again

[@zieraq]

Because being antique collectors, scalpers, resellers become too easy nowadays. In the old times Gamestop does it. Need physical store for it to happen. Now with internet eerbody thinks they can do it too.

[@blarghblargh]

if you really want to throw down cash for the best possible emulation experience - the Mister is amazing. yes, it's still emulation. just really, really good emulation. btw, emulating gamecube or newer on portables < $300 is really a hobby (or a chore). you're going to have to be a real tweaker, or not care at all about even matching original performance to want to go this route. do it on your PC, or get a more expensive handheld. I got a Retroid Pocket 3+ and it's - it's really cool. But it's not nearly as nice or simple an experience as emulating on PC or emulating older consoles on even cheaper handhelds like the RG35xx (which is awesome and easy). if you have a moderately not-bargain-basement phone it might be better too, since that's probably more powerful. I haven't tried that tho so can't comment on it.

[@dingusbingus7463]

A great gateway into this hobby is gaining repair and technical skills. You can find the best deals on parts consoles etc, and with the right knowledge you can turn "for parts" people sell for less than dirt, into a machine you'll cherish for years. Addressing the ebay screenshot with over 3000 hits, people also spam repair and mod posts, so a lot of posts on ebay are for individual parts or related services. The people who make fun of anyone or broke shame in this hobby are part of the problem; It's very immature and not fair for people who have more than others to do that on the other side of a screen, a lot of us just want to experience something from our past like everyone else, others want to profit, theres supposed to be a middle ground but the people who throw their money at the problem only make it worse for the rest of us, then make fun of us. A great example everyone knows is pokemon; when I was younger you couldn't give gba carts away, now people sell them for hundreds of dollars in the US, I imported an authentic jp of Ruby for $15, Just because I wanted to rewatch that amazing intro scene to the game on original hardware again

[@joel230182]

FPGA consoles are the future. Analogue has some beautiful retro FPGA consoles, and there are more FPGA options like Mister FPGA and more. Old consoles are eventually going to die and their price will keep going up. FPGA consoles can play your cartridges and ROMs. They're *mostly a 1 to 1* hardware recreations of the original ones.

[@LeandroBarbksa]

I buy retro games because I truly despise playing on my phone or pc, it’s just not for me. However, flashcarts are the best thing, I won’t ever pay what people thing their dirty old plastics are worth.

[@matt22blaster]

You're totally right if you just want to play the games. On the other hand original items themselves are going up in value because they don't make them anymore. The kids who grew up playing them are now old and have money. Everyday old consoles and handhelds bite the dust; each time that happens a replacement isn't available to the market. I'm not a collector, but I'm 37 years old and have most of my childhood consoles and hand helds. If one craps out I don't want a replica. I'd personally pay $80 to $150 for something that was probably $15-$20 10 years ago. I love the nostalgia the original item brings. With that being said, if you just want to play the games and don't have a childhood connection, I can't understand spending a bunch of money.

[@barrelofjim]

That's how it should be, but if you stick around the community, and market, the supply of a lot of these consoles/games haven't gone down much in the last 5 years, but the prices have grown a lot more.

[@Alterbrap]

Crazy idea but how about you let people enjoy games how they want. If you want to play on original hardware? Cool. If you want to emulate or only play modern games? Also cool. If you want to collect the games (like I do), more power to you. Just let people enjoy things.

[@barrelofjim]

It's more about the elitism around the "right" way to enjoy them that's the problem. Not everyone plays for nostalgia, but for those who do, emulation 100% may not cut it for them. The stigma about it is weird regardless and causes more people to buy old hardware than I believe are truly interested in that aspect of it.

[@mr.milehi9883]

Here's the thing that emulation performs better than most of the original devices anyway. So much software is abandoned where. So, it's legal for you to download the original software. It literally isn't being held by the copywriter I'm no legal expert, but I agree it's way too easy to spend too much money on Old devices that will be more costly to repair than they are to even purchase. It's really not worth it at this point not

[@JhahouaRubiks]

awesome video!

[@barrelofjim]

Thanks!

[@HomeGamingProductions]

So i find the older consoles are built better then the newer consoles and last longer. Old handhelds are temperamental as pixles die over time.

[@HiNRGboy]

I'm a retro gaming purist since the 80's lol but I sold my collection and only play through emulation nowadays...can't imagine trying to buy that stuff this day and age!

[@AnonYoBizness]

I remember swapping out literally 8 to 10 xbox's during the red rings era, i would get mad but you got like a month free live each time so, it was meh

[@MJ-uk6lu]

That era just sucked in general. Early PS3s had YLOD. Lots of games ran bellow 30 fps. Both consoles ran hot. I remember Xbox, PS2 and Dreamcast having none of such issues, that era was just literal downgrade in many ways.

[@goos4711]

Was hunting down GBAs. I don’t even want them anymore.

[@donaldsmith5667]

lol I love having a collection, but i’ve built it over awhile. Emulation is fine when the actual game is stupid pricy.But, like any hobby, don’t get into it if finances are tight.

[@90sNath]

Only if the gamr is pricey? You can just dump your physical games and play them on emulation too

[@cookiechi2555]

so another words, dont do it unless your dedicated, as someone who likes Ps1 games i also like collecting them, and i fully agree that local game stores like Jay's CD and Hobby or other places are much better when it comes to pricing, but yes i do like emulation as well, but sometimes it just doesn't feel the same. Overall i do agree Emulation is pretty sick, and dont do it unless your dedicated and have a job.

[@barrelofjim]

I agree, sometimes it doesn't feel the same. However, i think it can for a lot of people. Having disposable income doesn't mean it's fun to burn more and more money on your games every passing year.

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

If I could like this video twice I would.

[@Stabbyhara]

What really befuddles me about the retrogames market is that it literally is not like this in japan, where most of these games are made, and with a still massive consumerbase. I’ve seen games that go for 30 in the us market be ¥1000. Like honestly if the import fees weren’t so disgustingly large I’d just but my games (when I do, piracy and emulation ftw) from the japanese market. Most games have language options and region locking is easy to get rid of with console hacking. God I hate global shipping

[@Foodstamp9162]

I didn't wanna sell some games. But why not. Doubt I'd play them again, if I did I can emulate on a bigger screen.

[@IowaPorkChop]

Absolutely nothing wrong with emulating games. Same game different way to play them. Hell I’d play emulations on a potato if I could. Great vid!

[@maxwellsmith5627]

I think this video has a very misleading name to gain views, although I do not discredit the content of the video. (Emulation on phone sucks because it only has a touchscreen and with a mobile device you don't want to have a Bluetooth controller anyway.

[@Raddish-IS-Radd]

This is why I emulate suddenly but then all these big companies decide that apparently that's illegal despite the fact they don't really re-release their old stuff looking at nintendo

[@nunyabusiness896]

Nintendo has been complaining about emulation since the 90's. Emulators themselves are de-facto legal per court precedent and technically Nintendo (nor anyone else) have every successfully sued anyone for sharing ROMs or ISOs of defunct games. Scared people with "cease and desist", yes, but not actually sued with a successful verdict. By and large, as long as you are not profiting from it in any way, it is highly unlikely you will ever face any problems for emulation. I guarantee you that just about every person involved in making games today has a hard drive full of ROMs and ISOs from older systems, everyone wants to keep these protected and preserved whether their lawyers/CEOs will let them say it or not.

[@90sNath]

​@@nunyabusiness896thats not emulation. Sharing roms is piracy

[@Milkmanrules1032]

I just played classic games that I already own or games on official consoles like Nintendo Switch Online.