Why You Should Not Be Running (Audio Only)

Mark Rippetoe reads his article on using strength training for optimal health rather than running. The full text of the article can be found here: startingstreng...
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[@markmarki9511]

But I run with hip drahve.

[@cuchulain1647]

Márk Màrki Hahahhahahah

[@bettinadimitrova]

now thats a comment hahaha

[@bmstylee]

Whole doing your faaavvvessss

[@SilverWiskeyStones]

Drahve!

[@jasonn668]

baR

[@lachmyster]

Sorry Rip but I neglected my cardio for years while following strength training dogma, now after starting to run 10-15 miles a week I'm finally making gains again because I'm fit enough to do more volume in my strength training. Plus my resting heart rate has gone from 80 to 55 in 6 months. I also have way more energy. I agree that running 60 miles a week is probably not good for anybody, but jogging 3-4 miles a few times a week is good for people

[@doublem1975x]

The only issue with roadwork is that it slowly wears out your knees.

[@birdsamora9925]

@@doublem1975x not if you don't do it everyday, land on the balls of your feet, and train different ranges of motion on your leg like squatting deep.

[@EduardO-gm7hx]

@@doublem1975x find a gravel or dirt trail

[@Denali_Rebel]

@@doublem1975x that’s like saying that lifting weights is bad for your bones and joints. If you build up and use proper form running will not tear your body apart.

[@justcody4615]

@@Denali_Rebel I agree, knees arent teeth, they repair themselves up to a certain age when nothing heals anyway. I think Rip actually does run once a week

[@Youtuber-qb7rx]

Mark Rippetoe is not exactly the first person I would come to for cardio advice.

[@SK-tr1wo]

I bet you're skinny and your joints suck. keep running man and eventually you'll no joints left

[@SK-tr1wo]

have fun with arthritis

[@jackbeanstock8731]

​@@SK-tr1wo humans are by design amazing long distance runners. Persistence hunting, long distance foot travel etc are all baseline natural human abilities and before extremely modern technology were requirements for the majority of people. Enjoy being fat with a clogged pig heart and gassing out in a fight, boxing match, mma match, wrestling match in 2-3 minutes.

[@luisemilianogonzalezvinces3400]

@@SK-tr1wohave fun with coronary artery disease

[@reconshide]

Obviously you haven’t partaken in load performance either, nor would we consult you for that but be that as it may, an open mind is always a stronger approach than a closed one.

[@instant1495]

David Goggins says, "They don't know me, son." 🤣

[@iamkrepo8217]

Does this include running away from my responsibilities?

[@redlionplumbing]

Iam Krepo He prefaced by saying this podcast didn't include distance runners, I think. Running from responsibilities is a lifelong pursuit so I think it qualifies.

[@userer4579]

Iam K, No, and spending time in the gym getting strong is a good way to eschew daily responsibilities.

[@klalakomacoi]

That's how I get all my cardio in, along with jumping to conclusions.

[@charles489]

It certainly does. So don't run.

[@RRRRobbbb]

The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

[@patbrown5833]

randum!!!!1!!11!!1!!!1!! xD

[@kevinkanzler495]

Because mitochondria uses heyip dryhive

[@doomblackdeath8888]

Mitochonrdria *are*.

[@Fullyautomagic]

@@doomblackdeath8888 *maetochonreichthyes

[@Ganjalf17]

Well, if you run in a squat rack that should be fine

[@TommyBoy8771]

*faaaahhhne

[@dZorroIII]

@@TommyBoy8771 *fhaaaahne

[@spicyginger4289]

I run from the squat rack

[@Amish_Avenger]

I love Rip but it's hard to take cardio advice from him.

[@puppy8125]

Coolidge Even though everything he said here is obviously correct?

[@Amish_Avenger]

@@puppy8125 yes

[@petergriffin7598]

@@puppy8125 *Biased views on cardio by a grumpy old washed-up coach and author of a shitty, generic strength training programme.

[@mjm0787]

Yes he’s a fat fuck and his belly is a disgrace.

[@BlGGESTBROTHER]

@@mjm0787 Let's see what you look like when you're in your 60's. Bet Rips "fat old ass" can still squat and deadlift more than you 🤣🤣🤣

[@greyman7849]

I have been running injury free for over thirty five years. Not competitively purely for the cumulative health benefits. Learnt to run in the military, tested and adjusted over the years and kept going. When programmed correctly with this objective in mind (cumulative health) running is in my opinion and that of many objective legitimate studies to be the single best exercise for the cardiovascular system. That said I have always approach this topic as such.......... strength training is healthy for you "competitive" power lifting is not, running is healthy for you but marathons are not. If you have acquired injuries participating in either of these activities, you are by definition - not healthy and should reassess your approach, don;t blame the pavement or the barbell. Running and strength training are not mutually exclusive as presented here. Remember the difference between being SMART (institutional learning) and being WISE is experience.

[@voycodin5042]

I have a similar approach to health, except I replace running with biking and hiking. Never really enjoyed running much, shin splints kill me.

[@mikeg4490]

@@voycodin5042 same. Elliptical or air dyne bike are my favorite forms of cardio

[@adamuntz1130]

When I was in the Army I was weak as fuck due to running

[@teamgitusome]

GREY MAN spot on. i do 2.7 miles to my gym and 2.7 home 3-6 times a week. so at most im getting 32 miles in a week which to me sounds like a lot but i feel good all the time. it works for me!

[@phamawa]

@@voycodin5042 as long as youre getting outside. Thats one of the main reasons I want to start running again is to combine my exercise and getting more sun exposure

[@denvergriffin5555]

Next up, an accomplished running coach who categorically abjures heavy barbell training will reveal the false promises and perils of the low bar back squat in his podcast “Why You Should Not Be Powerlifting.” Next week, a decathlon coach will weigh in with “My Athletes Squat Pretty Big Weights AND Run Like Deer - and You Should Train Just Like Them.” Which guru will prevail? Whose dogma will run over whose karma? Will the suburbanites and college kids all turn into powerlifters, marathoners, or decathletes? Which group will outlive the other, statistically speaking? How will it all end? Stay tuned for our next exciting episodes . . . .

[@craigcrawford6749]

Ah, Rip isn't "an upcoming" coach. I trained in the 80's with a former olympian who basically trained us exactly like Rip's method. Sprinters, throwers, lifters, all trained for strength. I'm almost 60 and I lift 400 lbs regularly, still play hockey physically, and my legs and back are incredibly strong and fit. I see guys my age who are "runners', and they all look like shit. Haggard faces, no muscle mass, terrible skin. It's oxidative stress and it kills them. The only time you see a 90 year-old runner, is when one started running at 89

[@jordostrikoff]

@@craigcrawford6749 false

[@Fullyautomagic]

Craig Crawford wrong I know people that have run 10 miles everyday for 50+ years. They’re over 90. Several people.

Statistically the ones that train cardio will live longer. Which sex do you think train most cardio? Women or men? Which live longer? Anyway, working for old people makes this obvious. That said they could all also use some strength training. You need both to be healthy.

[@acrxsls1766]

@ That is a false correlation. Women don't live longer because they "do more cardio". Idiot.

[@Lloydy786]

basically you only have a certain number of attribute points you have to balance them out beltween strength, speed, agilty, power, magic etc or choose some attributes to be more dominant than others, we can be whoever we want to be, just believe it

[@killslay]

Finally, an analogy I can relate to!

[@thearchives446]

So like an rpg?

[@robertlevy4613]

Lloyd Barnes Excellent analogy Lloyd. Jack of all trades master of none versus specialist.

[@AslansMane88]

I bet your squat will increase Mana.

[@phamawa]

@@robertlevy4613 thats stupid ass saying, you can be a jack of all trades and very good at multiple things.

[@TexicanMr]

We get most of our lifetime strength gains in the first 2-3 years. I don't see why we have to stay in the weight room full-time if we have obtained most of our natural limit. Why not utilize minimum effective volume to focus on other activities, including running or cycling? We can also take months off from weights and easily get it back from "muscle memory". I seasonally focus on different things spending 3 months on sprinting and three months on long distance. It takes a little longer to get strength back as I age, but that's okay with me.

[@Kayeinel]

Sounds like running isn't the problem, but running for prolonged periods of time

[@quanang8816]

Kayeinel i think that if you ONLY run then it would limit your potential of building mass and lifting heavy weights. I would say the reason for this is that the proportions of fast and slow twitch muscles in your body will prone to slow twitch muscles.

[@Kayeinel]

Quân quân the key word, "only."

[@scottmoyer3854]

At some point, distance running will interfere with strength development. Recovery is finite.

[@PaulsChannel779]

CORRECT! Sprinting will give you amazing results and help with strength gains!! Long distance running is trash!

[@joshjohnston7388]

We're actually really good at long distances. Original hunters ran shit down over days. Tribes in the American west used to run days to the sea.

[@xalian17]

You need both for gains, period. I've neglected cardio due to this exact podcast which negatively impacted my recovery and growth. I jog Zone 2 for one hour, four times a week, on rest days from strength training Your lift **will go up** when your GPP goes up. If you are winded walking up stairs or need breaks during the day, you need cardio adaptations, not just strength.

[@uraichur]

The last setence conforms with my thoughts too. Thank you

[@CP025129]

My goals? Speed, strength, endurance and the ability to drive a golf ball 300 yards in the fairway. I’ll adopt any training modality that assists in these outcomes and reject those that conflict. I’m a 51 y.o., USMC veteran and I still run. And I ain’t stopping. Added the OHP to my workout regimen about 7 weeks ago. Found Rip’s channel on KZbin about 2 weeks ago and just got my copy of SS yesterday. Same day this video dropped. My runs are generally 3-6 miles, sometimes a bit longer. I respect marathoners but have little interest in being one.

[@dragonfireshield1976]

hi sir how has it been going?

[@wallacestreakswillikernthe9175]

@@dragonfireshield1976 quit

[@ayron419]

@@wallacestreakswillikernthe9175 because he doesnt monitor his youtube comments from years prior?

[@ColocasiaCorm]

He’s dead

[@redpillsavedbygrace6720]

Uh oh. This is gonna rustle ALOT of jimmies

[@stevenseagal4987]

Sprinting and running with HIT intervals is much better than long distance jogging

[@lastsurvivor6406]

X. Y. True

[@ishowyouapple]

Better for what specifically

[@traviscolella7385]

Absolutely

[@patbrown5833]

@@ishowyouapple exercising

[@mensaswede4028]

Bingo.

[@jaredhemingway6078]

Just in response to so many other comments… I always chuckle inside when hearing “I can’t run because I have bad knees.” You have bad knees because you don’t run. This video is complete misinformation. Please for the love of all, strength guys quit bashing cardio. Quit trying to sell your bullshit idea that a strong deadlift is more important than a strong heart.

[@faizanullah5646]

Walking on an incline is an awesome form of liss cardio. Your heart is working hard but your muscles in legs aren’t working too hard. The best thing? You can do this almost everyday without interfering with strength gains. However, this doesnt mean start walking for 2 hours everyday lol that will be excessive!

[@MixedMartialHelp]

It is better to stand and fight. If you run, you will only die tired. ~ Viking Saying

[@Jimmy-qg2ix]

Martial Lee - Freestyle Fighting If you run daily you can fight longer and outlast your opponent.

[@Barbellprofessor]

Protein Sufficient fights are either won in the first round due to strength in the knees/elbows or in the last round due to conditioning - Common Muay Thai saying

[@Theaikro]

Man all kinds of quote gainzzzz

[@keithbarbaro7590]

@martial lee if that is true, wouldn't at least one elite marathon runner have successfully transitioned to MMA or boxing by now?

[@Coxy002605]

A civilisation that believed that if you died honourably in battle you'd be sent to paradise is probably not the best argument for standing and fighting.

[@bricampsan2]

What about aerobics in the bedroom, should I only be doing 1-5 reps there?

[@TwowheeledadventureVT]

We need* a combination of strength training AND cardiovascular activity for optimal fitness. Don't be the guy at the gym with jacked arms and a huge gut that absolutely hates cardio, just like the guy talking hmmm...

[@expo7112]

Drinking a gallon of milk per day but no morning run? Check!

[@BroFitARG]

I'm starting to fall for Rip

[@traviscolella7385]

I think Ripptoe should be running because he’s fat. He’s wrong in this. Cardiovascular training is the best kind of training for longevity.

[@randomnameindeed]

Indeed! Hard to convince all the lazy asses in this comment section though.

[@seph9980]

I'm listening to this, while I'm running. LOL!

[@user-vh3kj9ri8h]

Yusof Sarangani absolute madman

[@randomnameindeed]

This is one of the silliest things I've heard in a long time. This guy is obviously just biased as he clearly hates running, so he wants to justify not doing it. The healthiest approach is to combine cardio and strength training, but if you have to choose you should go for cardio every single time. It's crazy how some people think lifting heavier numbers at a specific lift is more important than having a healthy cardiovascular system. How can people be this stupid? That's insane! The heart is the most important muscle in the body. Cardio, strength training and a healthy diet is the way to go.

[@Ravi-ut7kk]

ever seen a sprinter Mark? I rather choose a sprinter than a fat ass powerlifter in a fight that would get winded after 3 seconds

[@donlee4238]

Everyone here is finding an excuse not to run, we were designed to run...

[@randomnameindeed]

Exactly. So many people in this comment section are deluded about this. Cardio is king for health and longevity.

[@robstr12]

The human body was absolutely designed to run, and to run long distances.

[@tjcogger1974]

@@randomnameindeed you know you don't have to jog to do cardio, right?

[@red303dat]

Maybe you were designed to run 🙂 I cannot say the same

[@randomnameindeed]

@@tjcogger1974 Indeed, personally I prefer swimming. Although Rip doesn't seem to be too keen on cardio in general.

[@garylizard]

I don't know about cardio or LSD or 20 minutes per day or whatever but if you can't run a few miles right now, and I mean get up now and have the ability to run a few miles or climb a steep hill that takes a few hours then you can't say that you are fit. This is from a starting strength programme veteran who enjoys most of what rip says. As rip says, you just need to eat more if you can't recover from your strength training. I know guys who work on a garbage truck 9 hours a day and do the programme..they do the programme, they work all day, they eat a shitload. Some of them still manage to have big guts. God knows how much they eat.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

He doesn't even know what LSD is . It's steady state moderate cardio for longer periods, typically over 2 hours in cycling and over 1 hours in running

[@saulwest8254]

Aerobic and anaerobic exercise are equally important.

[@EduardO-gm7hx]

I don't even understand the premise of your argument. Nobody is saying that running builds muscle/strength better than weight lifting. And only a fool would claim that weight lifting is equally effective at building cardio as endurance running. Look at the most mechanically functional athletes on the planet. I'm talking about your Olympic wrestlers, elite mma fighters, elite boxers, and notice that they all incorporate a combination of weight training, and endurance work such as running. There's a very good reason for that.

[@JH-dr6do]

I think premise is that the average person is better off spending their time in the weight room, rather than jogging on the treadmill. If you want to be good at a particular endurance activity, then obviously you need to practice that activity.

[@JakeTheRake1000]

Thanks Rippletits

[@MrFINGERLICIOUS]

Lol

[@crookedpaths6612]

I respectfully disagree. Endurance training is a platform on which you place strength training . It gets you into condition for the rigours of HIIT and provides long term results. As a life philosophy it enables you to go further, faster, for longer.

[@ollvi]

You can be very strong yet unhealthy

[@Vasioth]

Exactly. Look at most modern day bodybuilders or powerlifters. The non-natty competitive category is filled with men that tend to die before their 60s and powerlifters tend to have coronary issues into their 30s and 40s. It's horribly unhealthy to the point even Arnold addressed it (which is ironic considering his heart issues were probably brought on by his steroid use in youth at a time where steroid use wasn't well understood physiologically). Hell most people trying to fit into this public image of being powerful or having a sculpted body take anabolic steroids which leads to many of these premature deaths.

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

I've been a mountain runner for a long time. I've also done strength training for a long time. But I've gotten more serious about strength training in recent years. That means I learned and adapted to running first. I'm now adapting to strength training. I can see this in my lifts. I'm also getting faster with running. You make it sound as if the two things can't happen at once but that's not my experience. I'm also natural.

[@Sunflowrrunner]

If you think a two mile jog at a moderate pace is "endurance" training, your ass is really out of shape. This recommendation is for general cardiovascular fitness, and I don't think any doctor would recommend a marathon for health. I've ran marathons, they're most definitely not a healthy thing to do.

[@ah7027]

I think from a general health standpoint its healthier and more efficient to do shorter more intense runs. Like instead of 2 miles do 5-10 short sprints "all out". The distance would depend on the individual. Id personally do no more than 10 100 meter sprints trying to stay around 13-14 seconds. but im also fairly fast and grew up running track and cross country. The average person won't gain much benefit from 2mile run unless there specific goal is to run a race. A strength training regiment with quick intense cardio would be much more beneficial for general health purposes.

[@Sunflowrrunner]

Aaron, I think sprints are going to be hard on a lot of people's joints. 25-30 minutes a day of moderate exercise is the current recommendation most physicians give. It's not training, it's just exercise. When I first started running I seriously could not run half a mile without walking, I was about 215 lbs and did no real physical activity. I don't think that's completely atypical of Americans. Really, I think the healthiest people are probably people who do mild cardio exercise 3-4 times a week and moderate strength training twice a week, and have jobs and/or hobbies that keep them active throughout the day, that eat a healthy diet and weigh a reasonable amount. Now, someone who strength trains hard will probably have just as good cardiovascular fitness as someone who does slow 2-3 mile jogs without doing any cardio themselves, but is squatting 400+ lbs good for OPTIMUM health? Probably not. Is it better than being a couch potato? Without a doubt, yes. It's much better. Basically, whatever fitness activity you enjoy doing is healthier than sitting your ass eating Lay's.

[@LuciaMonarca]

Agree 100%. If someone considers “jogging” 4 miles to be endurance training, then they must not be able to go up one flight of stairs without running out of breath. I’ve never run marathons and don’t plan to but I jog 2-3 miles as a warm up before I do strength training. 2-3 miles is nothing! It will not affect your gains at all. Doing sprints before strength training on the other hand..just no.

[@ah7027]

LuciaMonarca I wouldn't train them together. Either two workouts in the day or do the cardio on my non lift days. For me personally running 2 miles would hurt my gains in the gym due to the amount of extra calories it would take. And I was saying that short intense cardio can be just as beneficial as doing long slow jogs. The difference is that instead of 20 mins of slow jogging u could do 5-10 short bursts of 100-200 meters with breaks and still get a good cardio workout in.

[@LuciaMonarca]

Aaron Harrison I see what you’re saying. I think ultimately you have to know what works for your body. There are some guidelines that work for most people as a starting point, but then to have to adjust your training to what works for you. Jogging before strength training has worked for me because I feel more flexible and the weight doesn’t feel as heavy on my first set. On my non lifting days I do sprints or some kind of HITT (20 min or so) and about 15 min yoga. I wouldn’t be able to train efficiently if I did sprints prior to lifting though. So yeah; study the sciences and then find out what works for you.

[@MoltenMouseMetal]

But... Unlike the average 4chan poster, my job requires me to move with steady, modest exertion for 8-10 hours a day.

[@itmatterednot]

Okay so running won’t necessarily make you stronger but it will certainly make you healthier

[@JH-dr6do]

How?

[@johto]

nope.

[@FlannelFetish]

@@JH-dr6dohow the fuck do you think? Really you are that dense that you don’t know how a healthy heart and lung can and will prolong your health.

[@nordicwarrior5014]

@@FlannelFetish running doesn't help your heart. Physically impossible.

[@FlannelFetish]

@@nordicwarrior5014 right just like breathing kills your lungs

[@casadewaffle3162]

“Why you should not do the thing humans evolved to do” This is nonsense, running has incredible benefits to the human body. You can both run and get stronger.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

These dudes don't understand the benefits of a diversified program (both weights and cardio and more) with their inherent bias. He actually makes the case for diversity with a lot of his arguments here

[@The-eo4lj]

False, humans have evolved to sprint, jogging is a thing we can do, but it has never been done in nature, so it may be viewed as unnatural. Though this can be viewed as a logical fallacy and it should, appeal to nature, but being logical fallacy does not make the result incorrect. You can see it in humans, there is a reason sprinters look great, jacked if I may say, while long distance runners look like they are suffering from anorexia. There is a reason now so many long distance runners are turning sprinters, and bettering their health.

[@sixtus9559]

@@The-eo4lj so you want me to believe that we are destined to sprint, at which we suck balls, but aren't meant to jog at which we excell? Yeah and horses are meant to swim, but they just forgot about it

[@The-eo4lj]

@@sixtus9559 it's literally the other way around. We have never jogged in the history of our species, and we evolved upright positiom partially because ot makes us such good sprinters, i could go on but i must go to work. In any case, just think about it logically. Idk where u get the idea that we are good at jogging, we are horrible at it, it literally destroys our bones and tendons over time, it is extremely unhealthy

[@sixtus9559]

@@The-eo4lj there is nearly no animal that's slower than us while there are plenty that can't sweat so they can't run for a long time. We injure so often these days jogging because many people run differently than we are supposed. We are not supposed to run on our heals.

[@SKOOKM]

I guess he doesn't consider most UFC fighters or boxers to be strong or fit. They almost all run or do cardio.

[@JI77469]

Does anyone have a link to any studies showing that strength training alone confers all the same health benefits that cardio does? No one argues that running marathons is NOT good or that too much volume/intensity in long distance running will murder your strength (been there, done that... squat plummeted overnight), but I'm skeptical that doing light to moderate cardio won't give you extra health benefits (and it won't interfere with your strength gains too much). I also think people underestimate how "out of shape" cardio wise you get from literally JUST doing heavy strength training (again, been there, done that.)

[@dafunkmonster]

Josh Isralowitz If you’re following a sufficiently stressful strength training program, you are exercising your heart. You don’t need to do steady-state endurance cardio in order to improve heart health. Clock your heart rate right after a 5-rep deadlift set.

[@Langor]

This goes against zombieland rules #1 This is a trap so he can outrun them while you can't

[@jdawg1835]

I loathe running, but "use it or loose it". Who knows when I might need this survival skill, so I do train it occasionally. A weekly (most weeks) half hour hill sprinting session along with a monthly 5k seems to be enough to keep me on my toes. I do this along with strength training, not instead of.

[@armenalexanian]

My thoughts exactly. It's important to at least be able to run up to 5 miles if necessary. Once per week full body weight lifting plus once per week 30 minute run plus once per week mobility session covers most of the bases.

[@chickenleg1460]

I'm listening this while running :)

[@WiecznieNieNasycony]

Just do intervals 20 min and you dane same calories burn as 2 h cardio

[@drewdrew1978]

The guy who tells me to drink a gallon of milk every day and strive for a 25 inch neck also tells me running is bad for me.

[@thearchives446]

Drew drew are you an underweight teenage male?

[@1ofthedudeswatching57]

If you go for a bike ride and leave the alcohol at home you be a little less grumpy .

[@AmeerFazal]

Man, you say, we are supposed to lift things because it is natural for humans to lift things. How about we are supposed to run and walk and do various kinds of cardio? Because we are fucking supposed to! Don't say bullshit man. With all respect with your expertise I am saying. I did follow your form videos regarding deadlift and squat and so on.

[@MossA-ox7ys]

Okay I'll just tell my Sergeant that...

[@davidbrown2625]

Sprinting is the best exercise. Supplement it with strength training and you're healthy. I'll agree that endurance is over rated. You build enough endurance through sprinting and lifting if your goal is health.

[@cooldude70-13]

athletes that aren't weightlifters or powerlifters have a need for cardiac strength in addition to force production strength. If one does not run how does one develop the cardiac strength that is needed for the running and/or cardiac activity of a particular sport for example running during soccer/ football/boxing/basketball/etc?

[@kipponi]

Run hills is not easy. And if I run 12km/h on treadmill it is 273W. I weight about 88kg. If I run with 15% angle it is much more Watts. It is hard and makes legs stronger. And every step is about 3-4 times my bodyweight like 300kg every step on single leg. But of course I train with weights too. Only two times per week.

[@JohnHellscream]

Small and moderate endurance activities cant harm an average person/lifter, while prioritizing strength - primary goal. Long walks (instead of using the car, walk those 3 miles), hill walks, hiking, short hiit sessions, or even steady state for 2-3 miles 2x per week. Even elite athletes/lifters do some amount of cardio (ex. Malanichev), but not in a way that hamper strength training.

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

He does specify high mileage endurance work, running 70-80 miles a week

[@colinrodgers5657]

Why not change the intensity of the run. Instead of doing 30 minutes or whatever, why not try to improve your mile time with speed? Or do sprints or something of that nature?

[@cd-ux9ot]

"Why you should not be running" - Ad: running shoes

[@youraverageguy2495]

What if you run with hip drhaaave

[@ishowyouapple]

Don’t listen to this if you’re over weight. Cardio is the only way to cardiovascular health. Strength training is fine if you wanna pack muscle underneath your fat not for losing it. Look at Rip he’s really hat, but has tons of muscle underneath. The fat counteracts his muscle benefits.

[@davidghbc9866]

Little but if running can go a long way with your cardiovascular health, it promoted more long term type of heart and lung health than lifting weights

[@felixungar2301]

Rippetoe has no understanding of the benefits of cardiovascular exercise. He should stay in his lane, teach people how to gain absolute maximal strength, and refrain from commenting on anything else. Speed, stamina, power, balance, coordination, agility, and low body fat - these are all aspects of fitness and all require development or maintenance.

[@saulwest8254]

Aerobic and anaerobic exercise are equally important.

[@adamuntz1130]

Running will make your lifts go down! Period he is right!!!

[@jamesball5743]

Running makes your most important heart stronger, your heart.

[@nordicwarrior5014]

No it doesn't.

[@andy6962]

1:22 - trying to cheat 3 hours into 120 mins ;) he must really not like cardio

[@tenzinlee6393]

I get that you're making a joke. But still, he is listing 3 different common recommendations: 1. 20 minutes per day, 2. three hours, 3. 120 minutes per week. He then says "or any permutation thereof" to further emphasize that he's referring to all of these, and any other, similar recommendations. It is pretty common to structure sentences like this. It parallels the distributive property in math.

[@WasGhettoBoy812]

As a serious collegiate cross country and track athlete with numerous knee and ankle issues, I confidently agree with what Rippetoe said. Two summers ago, leading into cross country season I ran 70-80 miles per week. I ran decent 8k, 5k, 3k and mile races but absolutely nothing worth the time and effort spent on the roads training. In the midst of training for spring track a knee injury inhibited me from running until after a meet to an occupational therapist where he recommended strength training. I’ve been able to run consistently ever since. Some strength training is essential in a serious runners routine and I wish I’ve known this earlier. I feel much more comfortable and confident in myself now that I lift and can see measurable differences in my body. Endurance exercise may have been what our ancestors have used to succeed but it is not applicable in any aspect of life, except for running. With lifting, I was able to see measurable benefits in my physique which ultimately improved my self esteem. It really feels good to slowly move on from something that completely occupied me and only gave me a temporary sense of accomplishment.

Mixing cardio and strength training truly is the best for being healthy!

[@Cris18Martinez]

70-80 miles per week is just too much, the sweet spot is about 15-30 I've seen. I tend to stick at about 15-20..

[@shiwakuseven5859]

I believe I should at least be able to run for 60 seconds-- if for no other reason, to be able to run across a busy street or to run to help a family member in an emergency. So the first minute on my treadmill, I run as fast as I can. After 60 seconds, I walk for 29 more minutes at 3.5 miles per hour. I feel a lot better when I do so even though I work up a good sweat.

[@LiberatedMind1]

I agree, but I'd change that to 3 minutes.

[@zephyrr108]

you are right. Just increase those numbers.

[@sc7244]

I like both, running and lifting

[@quebec0909]

Most definitely, strength training has to to be prioritized before cardio

[@dragonchr15]

Kuba the ROI Is better and you can get back to your previous gains very quickly after taking a break. Not the same with running

[@ishowyouapple]

This is 100% false. Running will improve cardiovascular health at 10x that of lifting weights.

[@Cris18Martinez]

@@Black-Circle dude, alot of people do BOTH..As in they don't really give a shit about squatting 500LBS but they get to a reasonable strength level while keeping the their body weight low enough to be able to run miles at a time without keeling over as many powerlifters would.

[@Ravi-ut7kk]

why doesn't mark talk about 1. HIT cardio 10 to 15 min as hard as you can go trying to beat your previous distance 2. sprints ? HE keeps talking about long distance cardio. I doubt Mark has ever mentally challenged himself with HIT cardio

[@A.I.-]

Whatever it is you are doing... The "EXCESSIVE AMOUNT is the PROBLEM".

[@crookedpaths6612]

Obviously he’s never done uphill running

[@rick.bernal]

Long walks and short sprints are ideal.

[@thohangst]

Listen, folks, if you love running, knock yourselves out! It seems to provide some very significant anti-crazy (I say that affectionately) for folks with depression/anxiety, which is at this point, most. That said, try weights and see if you get some similar benefits. Then you can run your buns clean off if you still need to. That's what I'd suggest. Foundation of weights, atop which you can build whatever weird looking geodesic earth-shelter house you want to live in. And that's how you stretch a metaphor.

[@keithbarbaro7590]

I do sprints. Lately very short, sometimes just bang out a bunch of 10's and 20's, but it feels great. It's a shame law enforcement and military still rely so much on distance running tests.

[@theavenger1500]

Keith Barbaro Ive seen somewhere that high intensity interval training (like sprints) work better at increasing you cardiorespiratory ability when you equate training time.

[@CigEconomy]

Not a shame at all. Easier for me to kick their asses.

[@keithbarbaro7590]

When i was a teen I hated squats. So I did hill sprints. I actually bulked up doing them.

[@Rudecheers]

Totally understand why it is trained in the military. There is a chance they need to cover long distances on foot (infil/exfil), and ofcourse, this should be done in the least amount of time.

[@stormshaman]

Supposedly running isn't really used nearly as much as strength on the job startingstrength.com/video/training-law-enforcement-and-firefighters

[@Saku19]

Commissioning in the Army, have to be able to run.

[@Baker5695]

Saku19 go enlisted NCOs lead the way

[@Saku19]

Zac Macpherson I already did the enlisted gig, used my GI Bill for school

[@sungjaepark8400]

just separated from regular army. starting strength program will slow your running time down a lot. just be aware that starting strength doesn't really go with the army standard. deadlifting and squating will get your weight up as well. you will get taped everytime. now that I am out, my body weight has gone up to 240. my workset for squat is 330.

[@Saku19]

Sungjae Park Thanks. Any advice?

[@sungjaepark8400]

I had to choose one and compromise the other. when I was in, my focus was PT score because I needed those promotion points and set the example for my Joes in my squat. I tried the program. As soon as I make the linear progression on my deadlift and squat, my run time increased and body weight went up. So, I gave up on starting strength when I was active. I am sure you can find the middle ground in which you can do the program and keep your running time adequate.

[@Washyourbellybutton]

I have a 315 bench of 420 squat and a 500 lb deadlift I also run a 7:30 mile In also a kickboxer and have pretty good flexibility and balance. You can be a well-rounded athlete! you don't have to focus on one specific skill.

[@Altoseb]

How to you program this? I’ve tried in the past but my squats / deadlifts always hampered my running

[@Washyourbellybutton]

@@Altoseb As simple as possible, lifting 3 times a week 100% compound movements. Adding tiny amounts of weights. If you can constantly add just ONE pound a week to your working sets you just added 52 pounds in a year. As for as cardio I get all of that from kickboxing class which basically equates to hiit cardio. And you HAVE to take sleep just as serious. 8 hours minimum of quality sleep.

[@sergeant1446]

730 mile lmao, that's dirt slow, I would fail my physical fitness test if I ran that slow, thats nothing to brag about.

[@Washyourbellybutton]

@@sergeant1446 😂 this was a year ago. My mile time and down to 6:20 im benching 400 deadlifting 605 and squating 550. My kickboxing record is currently 6-0 and I plan on going pro by next year. Disrespect me in person and I'll shove your own foot up your own ass.

[@mateusz3162]

There is obviously a point that people run too much these days but there is a big bs load too in here. I mean e.g. it is obvious that big guy is easier to shoot then skinny guy who is running away. You probably should write a letter to special forces too cause they run, swim and endure a lot in their training beside lifting weights. Tell them to stop and just lift lol

[@klevdavful]

See you have to take what he said really peel back the layers he said endurance adaptation comes at the expense of strength. So what are you do you do the intelligent thing, do each in different phases. You can be a strong weightlifter and at the same time be a strong Runner. But you have to go through this Affliction first. You have to go through the strength training season in go through the endurance training season try it and see what happens and do what works for you

[@dbozexpat894]

In other words, the marathon runner grossly overtrained. It kind of reminds me of something similar to what Mike Mentzer once said.

[@klevdavful]

I can attest that running dose have good benefits and so dose strength training. I would say this don't be afraid of hurting thinking that you will lose a lot of calories or lose muscle. You will not lose a lot of calories like you think you're going to lose a short time because you're not running away from a diet and even if you did run away from your diet your body goes into a. Of fat story mode then overtime it goes into a motor eating away at the fat so you can run if you want to. You can strength training if you want to because they both have good benefits. But don't neglect either.

[@lukaswarner5372]

I thinking dogmatically dismissing cardio is wrong and think the same for strength training. Balance may make life more solid in all areas. Throw in some yoga for mobility, and perhaps some other fitness methods, and one could have a great foundation for life.

[@klevdavful]

Running is not a test of strength. Pay attention to that. It is true. A test of strength is measured in the gym heavyweights being lifted. Progressive overload.

[@johnmulkerrin3978]

When showing signs of parasympathetic over training some running seems to provide a little relief. Maybe its the endorphins and the knock out punch a guy needs to get a good nights sleep. Sometimes the stress of strength training can be more than a week ol body can handle LOL.

[@omar6299]

I got an advice from a crazy person once. He said running is for idiots and horses!

[@klevdavful]

A reticulated python is big enough and strong enough and fast enough to catch and squeeze its prey.

[@DimaShinder]

The part of endurance training being passive and strength training being active was very interesting, it's no wonder we inherintely associate strength training with men and endurance training with women

[@klevdavful]

Think about guys an elephant is strong but slow, a cheat is fast no where near as strong as an elephant, but it's strong enough to catch its prey also quick enough to catch its prey.

[@JaySims]

And why can’t military leaders understand this!?

[@randomnameindeed]

Because being able to run fast for long distances is way more important for a soldier than being able to bench 140 kg. The military leaders got it right, Rip doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@grizzlymanverneteil4443]

LSD you say.

[@walterwilliams1791]

I used this advice to build my fallout new vegas character.

[@mensaswede4028]

My 20-rep squat performance improved after having plateaued for over a decade, when I added hard running to the training mix. Why? The running improved my cardio and respiratory capacity, which undeniably helps in a 20RM squat set.

[@discipleex4589]

20 rep air squat, congrats bro!

[@w00t3r]

Hwhy are you running?

[@volvo245]

But I want to lose weight AND drink beer = Rowing to maintain caloric deficiency. Running is gay. Interval sprinting is fine if you're young, lean and mean.

[@LemonEyesNL]

My fysio came to the gym and was walking and she said to me. Walking is better to lose weight than running. And I asked why, she said: you do lose muscles with running while u lose fat with walking and not muscles. Ever since I am so glad she told me!

[@venomousvillain1679]

Your "fysio" is a dumbass

[@reconshide]

Rip reminds me of an old friend and Pathophysiology professor I had in undergrad years ago. Both are in my wheel house in how I too see how strength is so valuable in life. Been there done that all of which (cycling, triathlon, running) over previous years compared to strength training have no comparison to the benefits of load performance at least for me. Keep telling the truth Rip it does not fall on deaf ears I can assure you and strength on brother! SemperFi

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Jack Lalanne did both strength work and cardio training. He was both strong, powerful, coordinated, and had great endurance. At 70-years of age, he towed 70 row boats, with one person in each boat, for 1.5 miles while handcuffed and shackled at the feet. There's no reason one cannot strength train and endurance train at the same time.

[@Eric-ey7rm]

I really don't think running twice a week 2-3 miles each time would interfere that much...

[@darinjackson5979]

I was listening to this and found it funny that I just got done with PT for a knee injury from running. Unlike what was said the Therapist did say I needed to work on leg strength, but gave me ridiculous exercises and wanted me to do 20+ reps. That just stuck me as funny after listening to this. Something that I have found out on my own (you guys may already know this) is you can get the required amount of heart work through your lifting. I was asking the Therapist about heart rate and cardio. She said for my age, 45, that if I keep my heart rate between 105 and 149 for 20 minutes a day that is sufficient. So I went home, put on my heart monitor, and lifted. Now I do supper sets just to save time. Example is bent over rows, bench press, and an ab exercise, then a 90 second rest. 4 sets. My heart rate will get to the 140's and not drop below 100 to 110 and I can do this for 45 to 55 minutes. Deferant exercises of course. 12 sets in all. I believe that fits the bill for good heart health and I'm putting on muscle at the same time. Seems like a win win for weightlifting and a coffin nail for running. Thanks for the great video's.

[@l.p.7585]

I agree darwin, You can train cardio when you do arms.

[@chrisma901]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with running or any aerobic work. As with everything in life there needs to be balance between aerobic and anerobic work.

[@shinobudev]

Axioms in life don't always reflect nature. Nature isn't always 50-50.

[@antoniettamancinelli6581]

Are you dumn or only deaf?

[@dafunkmonster]

Argument to moderation is a logical fallacy.

[@skandalbanker]

Running is good for bone density

[@randomnameindeed]

And for cardiovascular health, which is the most important of all.

[@Ostpreussen-km8rd]

I get my cardio playing ice hockey in a pick up league, 2mins on the ice, 2mins on the bench, for a hour and an half. I picked this up in my adulthood out of the blue after I think hockey is the superior choice strategically and tactically; ice skating is low impact, involves hand-eye coordination, and the aspect of mind body with the skating since your on a thin blade going backwards as fast as forward then stopping on a dime while carrying a puck on a stick blade. I have to play twice a week, at least once to keep the required hand-eye coordination and cardio. If I stop doing hockey it doesn't affect my barbell training, but if I stop barbell training I can tell on the ice, the loss of power and explosiveness are undeniable. When I squatted three times in the week before hockey I would perform better and wouldn't be sore after the session as you would be very sore when not training for some time. So hockey never upped my deadlift PR but the power clean helped me score more goals. The reason I barbell train and do cardio is for the enduro 2 stroke dirt biking I have done since I was 10. Full throttle enduro 2 stroke dirt biking requires an unrivaled amount of athletic ability, needing an intuitive nature with the bikes power which just pours out like a surge. There is not enough stamina and calories to get through a week in the Glamis sand dunes riding 8 to 10 hours a day without an extreme lose of fat and muscle. It takes me months before I get back to normal for cardio after my dune season, but I go right back to training to pack the pounds back on. No better method than barbell training. I did Taekwondo for 4 years when I was a youngster, and now that I'm older I realize how it shaped everything about me, even the way I carry myself. Coming from the striking and explosive back round I have been thinking of switching from powerlifting to Olympic weightlifting.

[@klevdavful]

Running is a test of endurance and cardiovascular fitness

[@andy1shi]

Running is a game changer for me. I have gone in the gym doing strength training and I felt good. However when I start running and start to enjoy it, man you can not turn back. Running is something special for me, I feel alive when I run, sometimes is like flying, going fast and not feeling at all. At this special moments I feel powerful, more powerful than squating with the barbell. Everything is subjective I know but why not doing both things together? Strength and endurance even from the evolutionary point of view shuld not be mutuality esclusive.