Why you should NOT start YouTube Shorts (beware)

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DIGITAL INCOME PROJECT

DIGITAL INCOME PROJECT

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@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Guys, if you enjoyed this video (and especially if you saw what happened at the end from last time) could pleas do me a favor and comment + share this with a shorts creator who needs to see this? I am curious if we will randomly flatline our view traction again like last time... thx all 🙏
@wickdmagician
@wickdmagician 11 ай бұрын
💯 sure thing mann. need your advice though, recently started a shorts channel 6 days ago and i’m considering making it my main channel for this year & next year. what’s your honest advice for me putting most of my attention on growing the shorts channel ? it’ll only be for shorts. @TRW_VIKING .
@wickdmagician
@wickdmagician 11 ай бұрын
been subbed since day 1, your yt knowledge helps me a lot w my editing. 🫡
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
is it this channel? or a brand new one? i think as long as you go in with reasonable expectations and thats your goal, it can be a good investment of time and energy @@wickdmagician
@JustTernetKid
@JustTernetKid 11 ай бұрын
This is exactly my problem. And I am not even monetized
@JustTernetKid
@JustTernetKid 11 ай бұрын
I was happy getting 100k only for me to figure that it's all useless
@imharrisonn
@imharrisonn 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for putting my in the video bro. I recently started a new KZbin channel for long form only this time, and I am already seeing better views on it! I think it’s definitely the wave for shorts creators moving onto long form content.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
You’re a G , consider me a friend man. Feel free to hmu anytime via email digitalincomeproject11@gmail.com
@trivistum
@trivistum 10 ай бұрын
Yo harrison I watch your short content so tell me how is your new channel named so I can watch.
@HillbillyUp
@HillbillyUp 9 ай бұрын
Whats up Harrison, love your content.
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please ✅❤✅❤✅
@nonbrainrott
@nonbrainrott 3 ай бұрын
W job bro
@martyneary7026
@martyneary7026 11 ай бұрын
Truth is that yt is less focused on helping people growing audiences and more focused on binge watching....there's a big difference .
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
this is valid thanks for adding 🙌
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please ❤✅🖤❤🖤🖤
@destinationwaleswithskylar9575
@destinationwaleswithskylar9575 6 ай бұрын
Agree I used to get 400 views at least now I have 0 or 1 view. My channel has stopped growing 😔
@nonbrainrott
@nonbrainrott 3 ай бұрын
Actual facts bro I literally have no subs and like 14 videos it is so hard to grow on yt
@brownoutage
@brownoutage 3 ай бұрын
Don't know if someone is reading this, but if you are: it doesn't matter where you are right now on this planet, I wish you a wonderful day and a happy, peaceful life where all your dreams come true. You are amazing and beautiful! I believe in you!
@JustinPark-c3z
@JustinPark-c3z Ай бұрын
I mean, thanks bro
@EloiBT
@EloiBT 9 күн бұрын
Bro... Thanks you so much ❤ Have an amazing life too
@oliveribanez
@oliveribanez 10 ай бұрын
Mr Beast kept posting shorts on his main channel, the last one a few days ago, its just that he posts like 2 a month, same with his second channel.
@SuperImprovGal
@SuperImprovGal 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for being honest and saying what so many of the gurus refuse to tell people.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🫡
@gerardolopez9368
@gerardolopez9368 11 ай бұрын
Agree💯
@bigmoneyvision101
@bigmoneyvision101 11 ай бұрын
what hit me is when he said even Mr beast gave up on shorts content n I'm like "Wait a minute" They already knew this?
@Cyphon
@Cyphon 11 ай бұрын
thats because the only thing the gurus care about is promoting their course lol
@ethantran3765
@ethantran3765 11 ай бұрын
so its not worth it because shorts dont make that much money anyways?
@_themerc
@_themerc 11 ай бұрын
This is my exact experience.I have now started focusing only on long form. I think what you describe is something youtube can't do anything about. You just have to decide what kind of creator you want to be and stick to it. I think shorts are really only good as trailers for your long form where it is intentionally incomplete so that only people who care about the full video end up subscribing
@Mr.Plant1994
@Mr.Plant1994 11 ай бұрын
you gotta do what RWJ does. He makes shorts that are 1-2 mins longer then a short, so he uploads two versions and has the short version link to the longer video. It adds alot of clicks through your channel and gives you extra eyes. You could easily put long form content in the middle of all this and it would probably work great.
@HeyAlexAI
@HeyAlexAI 11 ай бұрын
good idea!
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please ❤✅❤✅✅✅✅
@ZeroNeedsCoffee
@ZeroNeedsCoffee 11 ай бұрын
He's right I just upload long form videos for fun these days. Wish I knew all this back then
@Simba4321
@Simba4321 11 ай бұрын
bro thats crazy
@gunnasintern
@gunnasintern 10 ай бұрын
dont say say you wish this or that, just be glad you’re able to learn about this now instead of never
@wesley241
@wesley241 10 ай бұрын
Holy shit, you're right. Over a million subs yet your long form videos don't come anywhere close. That's crazy.
@DiskiDomain
@DiskiDomain 9 ай бұрын
486 views on your last long form? And you will get people telling you "its your thumbnail" or "the content" bla bla bla. nope...KZbin is broken. 100%
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please ✅❤
@Magicbricks_offical
@Magicbricks_offical 11 ай бұрын
Straight to the point, no shorts along with long form videos. you really helped me, I upload shorts and long form but my long form is not grabbing many views. I only do shorts for the subscribers, but I enjoy making long form videos much more! so from now on no more shorts and focus on long form videos! I literally wanted to upload a short today until I saw this video. Thanks for helping man! This channel is better than Vidiq and Tubebudy because I watched them so much for tips but nothing helped, but now I have seen one video of yours and I understand it immediately! Thanks for helping me out dude!
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
wow, huge honor! thank you for saying that :)
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please 🖤✅🖤✅🖤✅
@Sportfishhub
@Sportfishhub 11 ай бұрын
Started one KZbin shorts channel where I was only resharing my instagram posts. After about a year it was making 1k a month, and that’s without even trying. So, it might not be as good as ling form, but considering you spend less time making a short, it’s worth it
@_catulus
@_catulus 11 ай бұрын
The big KZbin gurus don’t mention this because they _need_ people to struggle with building their channel. That’s the only way they have an audience, get people to use their tools, etc.
@crimetruth376
@crimetruth376 11 ай бұрын
He's only bashing shorts because his channel failed. It's plenty of people making life-changing money off shorts.
@elvoandro7087
@elvoandro7087 8 ай бұрын
​@crimetruth376 are you sure I was about to dedicate serious time into this I can't handle my soul crushing Job anymore. I'm tech savvy I started using computers in the 90's
@_catulus
@_catulus 8 ай бұрын
@@elvoandro7087 10 million shorts views only gets you a few bucks. If you find a niche that’s easy to crank out lots of shorts in, then give it a try. Otherwise it’s not worth it.
@AbdullahFarhanLife
@AbdullahFarhanLife 8 ай бұрын
@@elvoandro7087 That's the problem, from what I'm seeing shorts are best used to amplify your main long format channel. You can make money but don't think it compares to long term format money
@graysonplayer10
@graysonplayer10 5 ай бұрын
That's the sad thing. There's a youtuber business of youtubers
@AYDE_
@AYDE_ 10 ай бұрын
This is my problem with my channel. Grew my channel from shorts, but have always aimed to focus on long form content. 100k subs yet my long form videos barely scratch 1k. I know it’s a journey, but now I know to refocus on the long form. Thank you!
@OdinTube
@OdinTube 9 ай бұрын
yup this is what scares me about short, I think the best way to make use of shorts is has to be separated channel.
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please 🤍✅🤍✅
@HarrisonPawluk
@HarrisonPawluk 11 ай бұрын
Hey bro! Thanks for putting me in the video and addressing this! I ended up creating this channel for long-form and the views are already better than my shorts channel with 1 million subs, and am now seeing good growth in the last few days! I totally think everything you said in this video is totally viable!
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Dude thank you for commenting again my G! Stoked you found success with this pivot
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Also, is there any shot I could ask you to comment from your other account as well? Also, if you want I would be down to post this (your long form account ^^) on my community tab as a case study, should get ya some new viewers too. Lmk dude!
@HarrisonPawluk
@HarrisonPawluk 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECTdude it’s all good with me! Feel free to use this channel as a case study, cause that’s basically what it is to me haha. Seems to be working though! I’ll comment the same thing on my other account if that’s what you want?
@Lorelane25
@Lorelane25 9 ай бұрын
I think shorts are a good way of get a lot of subscribers in a short period of time but after you get 1k to 10k subscribers you should now focus on KZbin videos with 10 minute length but if you are a beginner shorts ar a good way to get subs
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please ✅🤍✅🤍
@beautyandthesavage
@beautyandthesavage 9 ай бұрын
The signals that KZbin takes to decide what's a good or a bad video lack context and requires a massive, surgical update. It's outdated.
@dokyouph
@dokyouph 11 ай бұрын
Thankyouuu. I've started gradually transitioning from creating short-form to long-form videos.
@deeunstoppable5992
@deeunstoppable5992 11 ай бұрын
I was planning to start as Shorts Creator but recently realized I'll just push through with long form, but I'm still considering Shorts. Now you're video has helped me decide. I'll stick with long form first. I only have myself and don't have my own video editors and scriptwriters so I should be mindful of where it's best to put my energy. Thank you for informing us!
@TimCarter1
@TimCarter1 11 ай бұрын
Agreed
@monke2676
@monke2676 11 ай бұрын
@GRINDER-lolreal
@abtbro
@abtbro 9 ай бұрын
True.... shorts creating is very tempting but I realize at the end of the day long form still has geniually better quality. I think shorts is good to semi or even a little bit promote your long form content. It helps I think.
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please 🖤✅🖤✅🖤✅🖤✅
@AbdullahFarhanLife
@AbdullahFarhanLife 8 ай бұрын
@@abtbro but if ur alone and it's an energy thing. Long formats are always better I believe
@RobRabe
@RobRabe 11 ай бұрын
I had been vaciliating between investing in Short or long form content. You're the third content creator I've heard saying to pick one and stick with it. This video helped me to confirm my decision to stick with long format. Thank you for the helpful video! I really appreciate it.
@McMakersStation
@McMakersStation 11 ай бұрын
Shorts are a good way to make money if you get millions of views.
@Buck15
@Buck15 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree I think it depends on how invested your audience is to you Before they go watching your long form content
@CoolChef28
@CoolChef28 11 ай бұрын
1 million views = 3000 INR
@McMakersStation
@McMakersStation 11 ай бұрын
@@Buck15 all of the money I make is from shorts
@McMakersStation
@McMakersStation 11 ай бұрын
@@Uiosrtk $5,000
@Buck15
@Buck15 10 ай бұрын
@@McMakersStation That's great! EM do you use copyrighted music in your videos? Because I'm still trying to understand how I'm use them without having to get striked
@aylinnzeynal
@aylinnzeynal 11 ай бұрын
I have been video creator for a few years and unfortunately I learned everything you said through experience. You are completely right in what you say. I have 1 advice and 1 suggestion. First, make a choice, either share only long videos or share short videos. If it is suitable for you to be successful and earn high income over a long period of time, share long videos. If you want quick success but earning huge income is not important to you, share short videos. But there is also an advantage to sharing short videos. Your channel grows fast, you can become famous fast. It's hard to grow that fast with long videos. I recommend you make the choice from the beginning. And the 'short videos with ai' videos you see on the internet are nonsense. Only a lucky few channels succeeded, but they had tried at least 10-20 different channels, only 1 channel was successful. Trust this video.
@aylinnzeynal
@aylinnzeynal 11 ай бұрын
Another observation: KZbin algorithm understands 'ai sounds and content' and doesn't really support it. You may have short successes at first, but then it all goes away.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
thanks for saying that :)
@aylinnzeynal
@aylinnzeynal 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT thank you for this video 😊
@vavadadeur150
@vavadadeur150 11 ай бұрын
​@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECTso do make short video secure thé bag ? Atleast 1k à mouth
@sandhagensafarime7553
@sandhagensafarime7553 11 ай бұрын
does it work ? @@vavadadeur150
@DetroitNinja
@DetroitNinja 11 ай бұрын
Do KZbin shorts to increase sub count fast. It took me 2 years to get to 56k subs. My short term is to get to 100k in April 2024 and the silver play button.
@incognito5138
@incognito5138 11 ай бұрын
Please get this guy to a million subs atleast. There are some who dont even deserve it, this channel deserves more subs, views and attention. So honest and actually putting in the work and showing us. I love this channel so much!
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Wow thank you so much 🙏🏽 huge compliment
@TheAnimatedWonders
@TheAnimatedWonders 11 ай бұрын
What about animations?
@TheAnimatedWonders
@TheAnimatedWonders 9 ай бұрын
dude, why'd you not use full stops? Your sentence is difficult to understand?@@teamvopi
@happycorn3r
@happycorn3r 8 ай бұрын
Done Please 🖤✅🖤✅🖤
@TheAnimatedWonders
@TheAnimatedWonders 8 ай бұрын
@@happycorn3r if you wanna help me too, that'd be awesome!
@Ninjaotaku
@Ninjaotaku 11 ай бұрын
Great honest video, I think the problem is the KZbin gurus make good money if they make a longform video about how to make money with shorts. That's why i respect your channel you show the real behind the scenes.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Thanks G 🫡 stay tuned for more like this
@SoulStarSketchin
@SoulStarSketchin 11 ай бұрын
I will KZbin some credit and mention that shorts lately have now allowed for shorts to be linked directly to any related video of yours which includes your long form videos. But I’m going to be honest to say I have both long form and short form vids on my channel and the results are always inconsistent. I’m debating making less shorts per month and stick to more long form videos. Ah well
@RayReacts03
@RayReacts03 11 ай бұрын
When I made my reaction channel I made sure to mainly stick to long form content. I was aware that the KZbin algorithm would mess up if I were to do both shorts and long form at once. Now after 2 months of long form content I am posting the clips into my shorts and they are generating okay enough views. It still depends on your niche but Start off with long form, then switch to shorts..
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
what percent do you think subbed from long form vs short?
@RayReacts03
@RayReacts03 11 ай бұрын
I’d say well over 80% (edited 82%)
@mikkey246
@mikkey246 10 ай бұрын
I like this comment, that's smart
@IAM2CAN
@IAM2CAN 10 ай бұрын
It's the best to keep long form and short form channels seperate, got it!
@FlameBeast25
@FlameBeast25 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. This is so important and I did not know about it! The video that you showed in the beginning was the exact video I had watched and believed him.
@benguillemet6392
@benguillemet6392 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I have my own long form channel that has just recently become monetised. I was contemplating doing shorts to build the audience but had those concerns regarding the actual audience it was targeting. With limited time to spend on the channel I'm so glad I watched this before sinking hours into making shorts
@Goldgaigar
@Goldgaigar 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honesty. This helps a lot of folks.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
🫡🫡🫡
@TheMotivationPalace3
@TheMotivationPalace3 11 ай бұрын
Solid information. The craziest part is the people pushing us to create better shorts barely make them. Keep up the good work.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
100 , thx G will do
@CarolineEstelle
@CarolineEstelle 11 ай бұрын
I really messed up 😂 I focused to much on shorts . I should have started a long form channel before I started short form but I wanted to see quick growth :/
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear!
@AkhtarReviews
@AkhtarReviews 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Recently I removed all shorts from my channel as it completely destroyed my channel. Only long form from now onwards.
@big_dog_diaries
@big_dog_diaries 11 ай бұрын
I’m proof he’s right. I get over 12 million views per month easy with shorts, sometimes 20 million. But my long form is useless. Maybe it’s simply not good enough which is totally possible, I’m not great at this stuff but I’ve seen a lot worse videos getting more views without having shorts on their channels. I’ve decided to abandon long form and going to start going after sponsors with shorts, affiliate marketing and reviews in short form as well as continuing my everyday stuff.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
dude, thank you so much for this comment. I appreciate you sharing this. and smart on the alternate monetization routes, you are on the right track G
@big_dog_diaries
@big_dog_diaries 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT You’re welcome and thank you. I’ve learned some stuff on your channel in the past. Happy holidays ✌️
@sanon2480
@sanon2480 11 ай бұрын
I have a shorts only channel too and it's growing consistently. I've thought about incorporating affiliate marketing. How are you planning on doing that? I believe YT is planning to roll this feature out soon though
@big_dog_diaries
@big_dog_diaries 11 ай бұрын
@@sanon2480 I simply promote something from Amazon. I have tons of options, dog items are endless so it’s relatively easy for me. I’m also an Amazon influencer so I’ll direct people to the Amazon link in my bio where they will find the product in the video.
@ExceptionalVitality
@ExceptionalVitality 11 ай бұрын
2 week DEEP into my KZbin journey! thank you for the heads up as I was doing a bit of both on my channel may pick and choose at this point! thanks again!
@abwebmaster
@abwebmaster 11 ай бұрын
For any KZbinr struggling, we shall all get there
@CamirrasKitchen
@CamirrasKitchen 5 ай бұрын
i think this can be true if you have a faceless channel .however I have seen ppl have good views on shorts and long form if it all about them. personally i have had the split audience problem even with long form. i have had differnt types of long form videos blow up at differnt times. now im kinda confused on who follows me and why. so a successful video can be a bit of a crap shoot hahah.
@FoggyMemoryProductions
@FoggyMemoryProductions 11 ай бұрын
I went back and forth on shorts and ultimately decided that if I was gonna upload shorts to my main channel, it was gonna be no more then 2 a week. So 2 shorts along with 5 longform videos. And so far it seems to work with what I want to happen with my channel. Mind you I'm well past the point of trying to get monetized so I don't exactly have to use them for much else other then possibly promoting the long form videos. Even then I'm gonna bank on that strategy working.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
hey thanks for adding this! how many subs did you start with when you began posting shorts? or was this strategy used from inception?
@FoggyMemoryProductions
@FoggyMemoryProductions 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I gained like 2500+ subscribers from shorts. Most of my subscribers came from Long Form videos. I've been doing this for 10 years so not too surprising that I've gotten most of my subs from Long Form videos.
@FTWAiden
@FTWAiden 11 ай бұрын
I’m still gonna do shorts lol
@adrinaomar322
@adrinaomar322 3 ай бұрын
Me too.
@chrislatiandy
@chrislatiandy 3 ай бұрын
But it's better to focus on one at the beginning so that you can put out your best and get monetized quickly 😊
@ValNoom
@ValNoom 11 ай бұрын
It is the same as that saying when you try to impress everyone you impress no one. It is better to choose what route you want your channel to go in the future because business is a long-term game. I knew this problem already when I checked tons of big KZbinrs with millions of subscribers who got those numbers from Shorts then I looked at their long-form videos with the same views as small KZbinrs.
@eezze_shorts
@eezze_shorts 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, we had to learn this the hard way, thanks to KZbin shorts they ruined the platform
@christianmeza4941
@christianmeza4941 2 ай бұрын
they should make their own app and website and they could be linked each other..
@thetopfootycoach
@thetopfootycoach 11 ай бұрын
You're right, I have 2 shorts channels and they don't do well, it's the long form thats important, thanks once again
@DBLRxyz
@DBLRxyz 9 ай бұрын
Can you link your short form content?
@Strongmindset-kd9jy
@Strongmindset-kd9jy 11 ай бұрын
This is something truly precious. I had to quit my youtube channel and start a new channel because I was posting short videos and long videos. Hope this video will help more people ❤❤❤
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Wow, how’s the new one doing??
@Strongmindset-kd9jy
@Strongmindset-kd9jy 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT I decided to create 2 channels, one for short videos and one for long videos. My new short video channel is this account and it operates quite well, while the long video channel is not yet recommended by KZbin to viewers. Hopefully everything will be running smoothly in the next few weeks .
@brandinojam24
@brandinojam24 11 ай бұрын
Make shorts FROM your long form content and your audience will view your long form content if they found the short interesting. You can't expect to retain the audience you gained from shorts about separate topics than your long form content.
@jurnoss
@jurnoss 11 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I do, but before I didn't know that so I deleted my old irrelevant videos.
@agiemaliki
@agiemaliki 5 ай бұрын
Wow, really mind blowing. At first, when I starting my channel, I exactly thinking like this. Get subs from shorts, get monetized and back to long form video. Damn
@gamingportableone1961
@gamingportableone1961 10 ай бұрын
Bro editing is amazing ,this much hardwork is needed to get success on youtube
@CodePhantomTFV
@CodePhantomTFV 3 ай бұрын
Yes indeed. Editing is the Hell Part 😂. And i know that
@MrMcSnuffyFluffy
@MrMcSnuffyFluffy 9 ай бұрын
That's exactly why you leave "notify subs" unchecked when you post a short.
@CodePhantomTFV
@CodePhantomTFV 3 ай бұрын
True. Always 👍
@igotcookies
@igotcookies 11 ай бұрын
This is 100% true. I was making shorts and long form content and I was getting hundreds of thousands of views on my shorts and maybe 1-2k on my long form. I ended up deleting all of the long form videos and turned it into a shorts channel only. Luckily I did this at about 500 subs, so I don't think the damage was done too much. I'm just worried about getting monetized at this point. I see a lot of channels in my niche that aren't monetized and I'm dying to know why. One of them even has over 3 million subs.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
what kind of content is it? hi #DIPfam btw haha
@TheHokkaidogaijin
@TheHokkaidogaijin 11 ай бұрын
Problem is people watching shorts do not comment for the most part, nor do they read the video description
@Catty_XD
@Catty_XD 11 ай бұрын
The Most Honest Person I Found On Internet i Agree Too I Regret Making This Channel But Have Worked Hard And Results Were 0
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that boss 🥲
@kevinsrambles9286
@kevinsrambles9286 11 ай бұрын
Great video and great points! One minor correction is that MrBeast didn't "give up" on posting shorts, he just has an entire separate channel dedicated to them, so that the subscribers with shorter attention spans are all localized onto one channel.
@Gamer-Sam
@Gamer-Sam 11 ай бұрын
Making sense, good video. Thanks!
@SaharNawaz
@SaharNawaz 11 ай бұрын
I can see why this applies every time to face-less channels, repurposed, edited content etc but I follow many creators in lifestyle/influencer niches that get hundreds of thousands on both types of their content, which they post on the same account. I think if people want to follow YOU then they're most likely to watch both forms. Especially if you're posting different things for shorts and not just taking clips of your long form videos. But there isn't really a shortcut to getting your audience to get to that point so you just have to put in the traditional work. Also, when no one knows you, long form videos have more views that come from search where shorts are usually just something that shows up while you're scrolling. That's also why your niche may not have done well with long form, because I would rather spend that time watching something from a more "authentic" or "original" source if that makes sense rather than through someone's editing style or commentary. Mr.beast is an outlier in everything and I'm sure he would have seen more views if he didn't switch to a separate account for shorts after only 31 uploads. Regardless, he didn't have a need for eyes on him when he started shorts like most small creators do so he may have had a different approach if he was in the same boat as them. Anyways, great videos. they always get me thinking about different factors to consider.
@OMGreallyneil
@OMGreallyneil 11 ай бұрын
big facts. well said
@ForestRavenProductions
@ForestRavenProductions 11 ай бұрын
This was really good information. Shorts have been hit or miss for me since I started my channel last month. Sometimes they would get 5000 views sometimes they would sit at 0 or less than 100 and then for some reason everything stops on my channel for a day or two, like no views, subs whatever. Like the algorithm is broken and thinks I'm spam for a few days I don't know, makes no sense. I'm really glad I came across this video, now I don't have to worry about making shorts anymore, I'll focus on my longer videos (which are only a few minutes anyway lol) but it will save me some time.
@shivateja3629
@shivateja3629 10 ай бұрын
Hey I've got an idea, start uploading shorts and grab some audience, start making long videos but initially make them only 2-4 minutes as your audience attention span is less. And gradually increase video length Will this work ????
@southernstalwart
@southernstalwart 11 ай бұрын
Wow… that’s exactly my problem! I get most of my subs from shorts but my focus is my long form videos… I’m gonna have to do some serious thinking on this one. Thanks for sharing.
@jackywacky4361
@jackywacky4361 11 ай бұрын
Shorts still work really great for me on my second channel. I mean, I am just small content creator and I work really hard (I also use a little bit of fame ster, but that's a necessity nowadays). I just give all my videos small initial boost, and that caused them to spread literally everywhere, bringing more and more organic views day after day.
@ZethromGaming
@ZethromGaming 11 ай бұрын
This was HUGE sauce! I was building momentum off shorts and after seeing this my stats makes sense.
@MilsurpMikeChannel
@MilsurpMikeChannel 11 ай бұрын
This makes a lot of sense. I had 5K subscribers with long form content, and am at around 28K thanks to shorts. When I put long form videos out there, which take me 30 minutes to an hour of time per minute of content to make, they actually get less views than when I JUST made long form content, even though I have improved things like camera, sound, and editing. Every short is guaranteed to make 5-10K views with a few going over 100K and a couple over a million views, and I have been seeing around $1.25/10K views. This has started to discourage me from making long form content especially when I can film two months worth of shorts in an afternoon. A huge downside is that only going surface level like I do in shorts instead of taking a deep, well studied dive as I do for long videos has made me less knowledgeable about my subject.
@OmiReal
@OmiReal 11 ай бұрын
make a seperate channel for shorts
@OmiReal
@OmiReal 11 ай бұрын
and link to your long form channel too
@ViralShortsTT24
@ViralShortsTT24 11 ай бұрын
I just started my first channel and I’m trying to grow it using shorts only. I still have a lot to learn and I understand it will be a long journey. So thank you for the great tips!
@GiantBat
@GiantBat 11 ай бұрын
That’s true. One thing to mitigate that would be to edit the long form content to show it to non subscribers first. Essentially getting two types of audiences pretty much until KZbin tweak that. 🤷‍♂️
@richrichsports
@richrichsports 11 ай бұрын
Could you explain more please?
@geetslys
@geetslys 11 ай бұрын
Your stuff is legit man, even educating a KZbin boomer like me. Such a different platform compared to what it was 5-6 years ago.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Thx G
@foresightminds
@foresightminds 11 ай бұрын
I'm growing my shorts and was thinking of making my first long form as I'm getting a little better at editing... this was a risk I was going to take but my channel usually does 30 seconds or more on shorts and my long for vids starting out would be a little over a minute. Then progress to to 2 mins. I guess I'll see how this goes.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
let us know! keep us updated
@foresightminds
@foresightminds 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT will do :)
@itsanaskhalid
@itsanaskhalid 7 ай бұрын
I’m just about to start a Shorts channel and I was wondering to upload long form content as well, a bunch of thanks for sharing literally the most useful and legit info here. The video is really educational. Thanks for saving me ❤
@musclebuildingshorts
@musclebuildingshorts 11 ай бұрын
All of this is 100% true. I want to mainly earn from long form but getting the first 1000 subs was taking me longer than I wanted so I made some shorts and one went viral (2.6 million views and 20,000 subs as a result) , Bad new is, as of today, I'm still at 3800 public watch hours so my channel, 20K subs strong isn't making a dime yet. Fortunately I do have one long form video that has picked up speed (500-600 views per day) and will get me the watch hours needed within a week or two from now. An no, my 20k subs from that viral short is not getting me any long form views.
@301ODAWG
@301ODAWG 11 ай бұрын
Have you ever seen a channel that was successful in both?
@Not_49
@Not_49 11 ай бұрын
So basically you must have two separate types of channel to succeed
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Yes or an already established long form channel that you supplement w shorts
@PIERRE28503
@PIERRE28503 11 ай бұрын
How do you make edition of videos???
@vincentnfs5178
@vincentnfs5178 11 ай бұрын
So the best way is to have Two Chanel, one for short and one for long ? If i understood well both can be on the same topic but not linked eachother…
@gerardolopez9368
@gerardolopez9368 11 ай бұрын
That's the impression I'm getting too
@leapnlarry
@leapnlarry 11 ай бұрын
We had a huge boost in subs when we had a short have 13m views, our subs increased by 40%, i think youtube is paying people to make shorts with subs, because they dont make enough revenue on shorts to pay money.. larry
@TheEuroLife.
@TheEuroLife. 2 ай бұрын
You have to keep long form content and shorts content separate. I separate my long form stuff to YT, and shorts to TikTok. Not monetized on YT yet, but making decent money on TikTok. Plus, TikTok pays MUCH better for their content(only for shorts, long form YT is much better).
@christianmeza4941
@christianmeza4941 2 ай бұрын
i thought tik tok didnt pay anything, i mean a paycheck coming from their company...
@animalkingdom4553
@animalkingdom4553 11 ай бұрын
thanks for your advice, you are always in the truth side. I do a youtube shorts only for an extra income because 1usd dollar to us is a big money
@christianmeza4941
@christianmeza4941 2 ай бұрын
🤗👍
@HillbillyUp
@HillbillyUp 9 ай бұрын
Great video brother, I honestly think KZbin shorts is a separate business than regular KZbin content. Because they don't let you link your longer videos in the description, they do not want Short viewers to switch to longer content on KZbin because they pay so little money out for shorts, they profit way more from the shorts. Thanks for sharing.
@Creature_Features_
@Creature_Features_ 11 ай бұрын
That is good advice. Before I started my channel, I had planned on posting both short and long videos. However, a friend on Facebook informed me that both type of audiences come to KZbin with different mentalities. They suggested sticking to one, so I opted for posting shorts. On that, I was thrilled until last week when four of my videos consecutively surpassed 1K views. However, suddenly, the views came to a complete halt. Impressions or "Shown in feed" are practically at 0, and even my 70 subscribers are not seeing my shorts in their feed. This is disheartening because I don't understand why this happened. The average view duration and "Viewed vs Swiped away" were both over 50% on most of my shorts. So, why did KZbin suddenly stop promoting them? I don't want to give up, but after four failed attempts to get views, I am seriously contemplating quitting :(
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Ooof don’t quit, just apply the experience to the next project! 🫡
@Spydah110
@Spydah110 11 ай бұрын
Yeah this happened to me. I was getting 2k-2.5k views and all a sudden would get like 100 or a few hundred. I kept going now I am back to 1.5k or 2k. I think the algorithm recently changed. But I too made some changes to my shorts. Managed to get my retention rate from around 55% to 90% in my last few videos. Now I just need to work on that viewed vs swipe rate lol. But yeah just keep going and see where you can improve.
@mochiithellama
@mochiithellama 10 ай бұрын
so basically pick whether you want to do long vids or shorts and stick with it. This video was actually informative especially to those who are just starting out.
@3102nzain
@3102nzain 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing us your experiences so that we will be more aware and not suffer the same consequences.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
always :) thx for watching
@ar.michael8306
@ar.michael8306 10 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT IM suffering from same issue as you,should i create a new yt channel? or delete all shorts?
@ItsMustachio
@ItsMustachio 11 ай бұрын
What you’re saying makes sense, but I still plan on doing a mixture. Ill just have to think more on how i go about it.
@jamilf2667
@jamilf2667 11 ай бұрын
I'll tell you my idea and maybe you'll follow along. I am planning on starting a gaming channel with long form content and will be using shorts to advertise it. However, I won't be having both yt shorts and long form content on the same channel. I'll make a sub channel for yt shorts to filter yt shorts subscribers. I only want those that actually like my long form videos to sub on the main channel. KZbin has a feature on shorts now where anyone can link their long form videos to their shorts so this could help a lot as well.
@EnglishStoryShared
@EnglishStoryShared 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think so. Short can earn money
@OmegaVideoGameGod
@OmegaVideoGameGod 10 ай бұрын
This is the insane part of any business, without the people there is no views and money, so it’s like what are people into and we gotta give them what they want.
@TrunksBlvck
@TrunksBlvck 11 ай бұрын
Going through this now. Shorts are doing much better than my long-form. Bulk of my views and subscribers are from Shorts. Thinking once i hit 1k subs, I solely focus on long-form. CTR has been averaging less than 3%. Any advice?
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
make better thumbnails + video topics. my next video will cover this more
@TrunksBlvck
@TrunksBlvck 11 ай бұрын
@@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT Looking forward to it💯
@raskidon
@raskidon 3 ай бұрын
Finally someone has spoke on viral shots monetisation, I wanted to start KZbin shorts edits on podcast, but I don't know about monetisation
@Jadrianvasquez
@Jadrianvasquez 11 ай бұрын
🤯 .. awesome
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Thx G
@jimmysrandomness
@jimmysrandomness 11 ай бұрын
This is true. And now, KZbin is flooded with new KZbin channels shorts because of the new minimum monetization requirements. Result: it's getting harder and harder to make your shorts go viral. I have 240 shorts, only 3 of which have gone viral. And this was during last spring's rush on shorts. And this while my shorts have only improved over time, but this didn't help unfortunately.😔
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
@StreamerHaven141
@StreamerHaven141 11 ай бұрын
I support exactly what he is saying!. I noticed this Shorts and Long form mix up some months back.
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT
@DIGITALINCOMEPROJECT 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input! Another case study 🫡
@TheHokkaidogaijin
@TheHokkaidogaijin 11 ай бұрын
I had the same plan for my art channel and discovered the same thing you did. After I stopped posting shorts did my channel start to take off. One or the other, NOT both.
@vscorpianc
@vscorpianc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information, very straight forward and makes perfect sense. Mixing shorts and long content does cause problems and it confuses your audience. Appreciate you sharing this! 💯
@Just.A.Guy.On.Internet123
@Just.A.Guy.On.Internet123 11 ай бұрын
I am only gonna say this, editing in this video is next level 🤩
@GeorgeMartinus
@GeorgeMartinus 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, man. You literally save our valuable time.
@BENBROS
@BENBROS 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is sadly the fact, at least until now.
@menoobun
@menoobun 6 ай бұрын
yes
@the-boy-who-lived
@the-boy-who-lived 11 ай бұрын
This happened to me too. I now not getting views for my long form content. What can I do now?
@AvisPope
@AvisPope 8 ай бұрын
I love the option to link a long form video to a short video. This was genius 💯👑🌻🥰
@talielisegm
@talielisegm 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad Ithis has popped up in my reccomended. Literally started grinding out YT shorts as well as long length videos. Welp shit 😆
@legendshublh
@legendshublh 9 ай бұрын
Hey can we Link up and share ideas together? Hope to hear from you soon 🔜 thanks
@m1fe.x
@m1fe.x 11 ай бұрын
W advices , if you wanna start a channel , put more work in long-form and when u are sure u have a big fan base u can post shorts to attract more audicence
@AYUSH-mu4zx
@AYUSH-mu4zx 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much , i am learning video editing and making shorts is best way to learn editing and i will try to make long yt videos so that i can practise
@RadvinM-old
@RadvinM-old 11 ай бұрын
thanks a LOT!!! I am just starting out and was making the same mistake, long form 19 views and shorts 100+ stopping shorts cuz my niche NEEDS long form viewers
@MMAGigabrain
@MMAGigabrain 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I started this shorts channel from nothing about a month ago and have gained 51 subs just from shorts. Now starting to make some long videos, and after seeing this video I think I will stick to them.. The thing is I started this channel because of creators you mentioned were saying there is some money in shorts, a bit disheartening tbh since I've pretty much learned only to make short videos, not long ones. Feels like I'm starting from scratch again. Thank you for this video 🤛
@BaoVuongg
@BaoVuongg 11 ай бұрын
Please make an update video if KZbin ever fixes this!
@deviants__
@deviants__ 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate your honesty
@dankodev
@dankodev 10 ай бұрын
Honestly speaking, I think a lot of these "youtube automation" channels fail is because their content is low quality. As a viewer, it's easy to tell that they're only in it for the money and don't actually care about the things they talk about. If you look at passionate creators who make high-quality videos, they're extremely successful with Shorts. The difference between the get-rich-quick people and actual creators is that creators think about their audience and love what they do instead of being obsessed with clicks and money. People are not dumb and they can tell when you're giving it your all.
@DiferSurvival
@DiferSurvival 13 күн бұрын
QUESTION: What about using shorts to get an audience and then start with long form content? or should I make another channel for shorts? I'd really appreciate some clarification since I wanted to do long-form content but started with shorts instead.
@Vanillahairco
@Vanillahairco 8 ай бұрын
Truly the most valuable info on shorts, thank you!
@cabuud16
@cabuud16 10 ай бұрын
Great editing, want learn how to edit like you
@Chipmunksandsquirrels
@Chipmunksandsquirrels 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much this was very helpful. I just posted 14 shorts to start my channel. But when my cameras come in I want to do long for and live streams
@gamecontent1.
@gamecontent1. 11 ай бұрын
This is my KZbin shorts channel, I just started this week and I post gaming videos. Great video man!
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