Why You Should Start Mock Scrapes Now, Tips And Tactics | Midwest Whitetail

[@matthewowens5992]

Another option to try in the scent department, i throw cotton swabs and a flip top plastic container in my hunting pack and when I harvest a doe or a buck I will rub the swabs are over the pre orbital and orbital glands, the tarsals, and even their bodies, throw them in the freezer and use the following year, pretty cheap and works great!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That is an excellent idea and one that we have not heard before. We have saved the tarsal glands from a mature buck but never any forehead scent. Thanks for the tip, and thanks for watching Matthew!

[@matthewowens5992]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos You could have kept the story of Marino going by seeing how the deer in that area react to his scent the following year after you harvested him! The never ending saga!

[@russelllangworthy8855]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos Surprises me that you guys haven't heard of that trick before. In addition to the cotton balls, I also use Q-Tips to swap the secretions from the inter-digital glands on the hooves. I learned those techniques back in the late '80s from some of the hunting books I bought back then. (Books- Handheld items with written words on paper pages that you turned by hand. No electronics involved.)

[@patrickfarris8048]

Iove the vine scrapes. We dont ever use scent though. Just hang and let the deer put there own scent on it.

[@jasoncurtis4938]

Agreed...no need for synthetic scent. Deer know.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

The vines sure are hard to beat! We have had the best luck with pre-orbital scent, but it is certainly not always needed. Thanks for watching Patrick!

[@ryanfarmer5155]

Tip for you I use, bring a portable drill innthe woods, drill holl through one end, feed rope through, attach with a nylon rope and tie it off a sturdy overhang branch , also, they work fantastic on field edges, rake underneath, take a pee in it, works awesome.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Fantastic idea for securing the branch Ryan, thanks for watching!

[@johnschreier8150]

Don't even need to do that........just use a simple slip knot with the very end of the rope single knotted so it won't slip through.

[@seldomseen_outdoors]

Wish I could add pics to comments. Got some pretty sweet pics does fawns and bucks with mock scrapes and a vine. No added scents ever

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That is awesome! It seems that about 50% of people use scents, to each his own. Thanks for watching!

[@seldomseen_outdoors]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos Thank you for always putting out awesome videos 👍🏻 good luck this season! 🦌 It will be here before we know it!

[@geofframaker4363]

With putting cameras and the vine out early have you had negative effects? Like having mature deer come in that early and never come in front of that camera again?

[@KalebGreiner]

Hey thats a great question Geo. I continue to get deer hitting them year round, the same deer too! Mostly depends on the farm and what i mean by that is that the properties i hunt, I notice some bucks have a summer range that may be 2mi from their core for the fall. This being said they come back through in the fall if its on the edge of their core and they continue to hit it not just in the fall but winter, spring and summer as well!

[@TheWaterHopper]

May add a few mock scrapes when I check my cameras in a few weeks after watching this!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Give it a try, it is surprising how much activity they can attract in the summer months!

[@coltonbelding2554]

I the love the beginning sound

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Thanks for watching Colton!

[@nathanhoffman9579]

I have used the grape vines now for a few years and I would clear out the dirt below it and just pee in it. The deer will then take it over and put their own scent on it. I have never had any luck with scents.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

We have had great luck with that as well, thanks for watching Nathan!

[@willnulph03]

Smokey's Deer Lures is amazing stuff. Great video

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

It is great product indeed, thanks for watching Will!

[@bmalone0688]

Lots of good info. Thanks fellas

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Thanks for watching Ben!

[@droptinejunkies6559]

“You really hit the hammer on the nail” You mean hit the nail on head? Haha

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

I think that is exactly what Kaleb meant! Thanks for watching

[@ubasatrained2650]

How far do you put your cameras to the mock scrape?

[@KalebGreiner]

normally 5 yards away is the sweet spot!

[@tacticalsnoopy]

Good video. Putting up a few this weekend

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Good luck out there and thanks for watching!

[@coreyburris698]

The tail end of that video was that rope? If so was it cotton rope or nylon? Great video! Going to head out this weekend to put some out!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That was nylon rope. Good luck out there Corey and thanks for watching!

[@ThomasShue]

What scent exactly do you put on the ground ? Or the tip of the vine?

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Preorbital scents and other scents that originate from around the face of a deer are to be used on the licking brach itself. Urines and other things of that sort are meant for the ground. Thanks for watching Thomas!

[@johnschreier8150]

You don't need any.

[@jameslindenthal840]

Jeff Sturgis

[@KalebGreiner]

One of my favorites on yt man!

[@troymuche8997]

Sturgis is 10 years ahead

[@drewcollins77]

@@troymuche8997 yep

[@drewcollins77]

Yep

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Jeff is an extremely knowledgeable source of information, one of the best out there without a doubt!

[@bradybehm4002]

Do you guys ever try these with 1” ropes instead of vines? Looking to try the rope this summer

[@tommybarnhart6023]

@7:10 it looks like rope is being used.

[@leonardcavaretta905]

I'm going to try putting out some this and next month with rope.

[@jasoncurtis4938]

Rope doesn't work. It doesn't hang as natural and most importantly deer like a little resistance when they use the scrape. A rope seems to be too limp.

[@leonardcavaretta905]

@@jasoncurtis4938 Then how come there is a company that sells a kit for making mock scrapes that uses hemp rope, and there are several pro hunters and educators that use it?

[@dylanstoddart298]

@@leonardcavaretta905 because unfortunately the hunting industry likes to take our money whether it works or not. Ropes can work, but you will see far more use from a vine or oak branch or even jack pine branches. Good luck 👍

[@leonardcavaretta905]

@@dylanstoddart298 Thank you for the advice. I will try using vine if I can find them in my area. I hunt state land here in upstate NY. Might have to go with a pine branch as I noticed that most of the ribs and scrapes are on pine. I have used branches in past but not much luck.

[@dylanstoddart298]

@@leonardcavaretta905 awesome! I hunt state land in the southern tier of New York as well as small private land in western New York, I’ve noticed they love scraping under young beech trees as well! But the southern tier they love the pines!

[@johnschreier8150]

Agree with ~1" diameter, fairly straight, hung vertical with the bottom being around waist high. Disagree that it needs to be a vine (have proof that branches work), doesn't need to be relatively rigid (hang all mine from a rope) and no scents are needed. Got thousands of pics of all caliber of deer (and bear) visiting the site. Note too that the scrape site needs to be fairly level with space to move around or they may shy away.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

The level ground observation is an excellent point! It definitely seems that they are more inclined to work scrapes if they have freedom to easily move around the site.Thanks for watching John!

[@mattprice9432]

Check out black widow deer lures.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

We will check them out, thanks Matt!

[@georgehelzer7569]

OK, so I been looking into setting up a vertical scrape this year. I dont have anything in the open to hang from. Typically Id sink a cedar post in the ground and then add an oak branch. I havent even done that yet on this property we just obtained last year. What would you do if you have nothing to hang from and wanted to get one out in the open? Im more likely to add the cedar post and horizontal oak branch until I get trees grown enough to do this. Before I watched this, I already wanted to stay away from my edges as those are going to be my stand locations and dont want deer coming to them anymore than necessary. In one area I am going to see if I can string a rope across a path and hang one that way but Im not sure I can get one across... This may be hard to visualize, but just assume there is NOTHING to hang from.

[@johnschreier8150]

You can do the post method or just us another 3-5" tree trunk and do the same. Put it in the open and curiosity will get the best of them. The only thing is that this works better in the fall because the branches you attach will eventually die and become brittle.

[@georgehelzer7569]

@@johnschreier8150 yeah that why people like to use oak branches.. The leaves hang on for dear life after turning brown. Thanks!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

We have had great success with a T post and a product called the scrape stick. It allows you to make a mock scrape basically anywhere you can drive a post without needing to set anything big. The bracket accepts branches of all sizes in which you can attach a vertical limb to the end of a sizable stick or branch. The scrape stick is not cheap but will last a lifetime!

[@georgehelzer7569]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos thanks! I had been looking to have something like this built because most I have seen are quite expensive.

[@mr.Mikeyboy]

Great vid! Do u guys have any promos goin for novix I was looking to get climbing sticks and wanted to get them just checking to see if they had anything goin on??

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Hey Mike. We should have an updated code we can pass along soon. We'll put it in the description of our new videos as soon as we get it. Thanks!

[@kevinroller4322]

What kinda of camera and lens did y'all film the buck at 8:13 with?

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

It was a Sony A73 paired with a 150-600mm Tamron lens

[@89just4fun]

My advice, keep mock scrapes simple. I wouldn’t use ANY attractant or deer urine the first time. Set up a vine and give it a couple weeks. If you don’t see any action or interest, then add an attractant and urine!

[@buckydoedowner7598]

i just piss under mine after install.. works everytime

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That is great advice, keep it simple! We rarely use anything other than pre-orbital scents when making one for the first time. It seems that the best scent is what the deer in the area provide! Thanks for watching!

[@toddbaer8634]

Mine r still up from last year

[@toddbaer8634]

Sounds like i need to freshing them up

[@buckydoedowner7598]

no need to fresh them up, i have some that been hanging for 4-5 years. Their like wine, get better with time.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That is one of the major bonuses when using vines, it is very common to get multiple years out of each one. Thanks for watching Todd!

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

I pulled hundreds of feet of woodvine out of a dead oak on my property @ 🏡. 3 huge oak branches that separated from the trunk were actually held up by woodvine. I used arborist equipment to lower these branches & others down down to remove everything but the spar of the dead oak. In March & April I put out a dozen grape/wood vine in 2 different areas. Only hang in thick areas that r traveled well by deer closer to bedding areas heading to stands of oaks where the cover isn't so thick. Gives u a spot where u can have a 🦌 focus on something else & not u. I do this in public areas off the beaten trail which is harder to get to than most. When the timing is right I know b4 ( I get to my 🌳 that I pull myself up into with a climbing rope) where my camera is going to be pointing @. I put my camera out in mid-August up in the 🌳 I'm hunting out of angling down @ that licking spot. I got many short video mode captions last year & the woodvine is just something that I can hang with paracord tied tightly to a branch above that will entice deer but not people. If these were spots that people spent time going into I wouldn't be hanging a Browning camera just to get no video while risking the loss of a great hunting tool.

[@barbmurray8557]

One week until opening bow

[@RushOutdoors]

Don't put scent on them at all! If it positioned correctly the deer will put thier scent on them.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

We have never seen scent turn them away if used correctly, but we have certainly had luck without it as well! One thing is an absolute truth, location is everything. Thanks for watching!

[@mthomas8338]

They just don’t hit em as well

[@hunterkoch2914]

First?

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Looks like it! Thanks for watching Hunter!

[@yeetarmyitstimeforgoodtime8958]

Black Widow Branch Butter works well also