Why you still don't understand the Green New Deal

Political news coverage tends to focus on strategy over substance, and that’s making it less likely that the public will agree on big policy ideas when we need them the most.
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The Green New Deal is an ambitious proposal that outlines how the U.S. might begin transitioning towards a green economy over the next ten years. It includes steps like upgrading our power grid and renovating our transportation infrastructure. But most people watching news coverage likely don’t know what’s in the Green New Deal. And that’s because political news coverage tends to focus on strategy over substance, fixating on a bill’s political ramifications rather than its ability to solve a problem. That approach to news coverage is known as “tactical framing,” and research shows it makes audiences at home more cynical and less informed about big policy debates. The result is a cycle of partisanship, where solutions to big problems like climate change are judged on their political popularity rather than their merit.
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[@Vox]

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[@conjure76]

You have three likes, no comments and YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THIS VIDEO. F to pay respects.

[@angry3195]

Con Juring don't F this guy actually yeah, F this guy

[@randomdudeontheinternet4827]

Con Juring AND THEY JUST POSTED THIS COMMENT. WHAT THE F.

[@BarnabyTheEpicDoggo]

@@conjure76 This is pinned and still only 3 replies and 87 likes...

[@typicallyodd2237]

F in the chat

[@GarethPW]

Please make a video properly explaining the deal as well!

[@nospock]

GarethPW +

[@Vox]

This is on our radar!

[@tawilliamson83]

I actually came here to better understand and explain the Green New Deal. I had a conversation with my wife about it this morning and I couldn't go into much detail about it. I do trust Vox to explain things without bias, so please do so.

[@Sacchidanand]

@@tawilliamson83 www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/12/21/18144138/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez

[@andremartin5322]

@@Vox thanks yo, bring it out before they make a decision (## years later.)

[@karlkastor]

America is treating politics like sports. Instead of focusing on the actual issues you're just rooting for your favorite teams...

[@anonymousted7302]

Yeah just like SAS and Max

[@lesliegittemeier7682]

Yes, it's very annoying.

[@Lycaon1765]

I feel like that's what most people do. Not just here. :v Tho varying degrees.

[@adolftherednosed9033]

Lycaon 1765p , no , in majority of other democracies , most states or provinces swing from one party to the other from time to time . we don't have blue or solidly red States .

[@idavisband]

Each party has different general goals and different ways on looking at the problem and to solve them. Each party is a different team. So yeah you can see each side like a sport team but it's more complex then that. Hers an example in America woman can get their tubs tied at age 18 while men can get a visorectome(can't spell but is men getting their nuts snipped) off at age 16. Some democrats will say lower the age for wemon while some republicans will say raise the men to age 18. This is 1 of many issues we are stupidly argue over even tho most don't know the difference. Men can get the visotectome revered while wemon cant.

[@Deeablow]

He never said it was a “good” or “bad” deal just pointing out how tactical framing is being used to keep people divided on policies that might actually be beneficial and bipartisan. The funny thing is that those hating on the video are the ones with “tactically framed” mindsets lol. They assume he’s for the deal since the video is from VOX.

[@aaendi6661]

There is another VOX video explaining Green New Deal, and it makes it sound nearly as bad as Fox News does, maybe unintentionally. Even VOX couldn't make it sound like a good idea.

[@Silverstorm173]

@@aaendi6661 might be true but we do need big change because nothing is getting done when it come to the environment

[@Silverstorm173]

@Dustin Chad Alston no dip most likely and I understand this work is being destroyed

[@aaendi6661]

@@Silverstorm173 I feel like we can't do anything until the riots stop.

[@casswashwash1070]

@@aaendi6661 you’re doing exactly what the politicians are. It’s not about it being the best perfect deal. It’s about us all understanding what needs to happen and make it more practical. At the end of the day it’s humans fault for letting it get this bad to where we have to reshape our entire society and way of life to continue to have just that, life

[@ThePavelkomin]

Anyone: America: * lies on the ground and starts screaming SOCIALISM *

[@kidvicious2227]

Its actually a form of communism

[@ThePavelkomin]

@Deutsche comrade Which part of the resolution is socialist and why is it socialist then?

[@Master-kh6ww]

kid vicious No it’s not

[@dontreadmyprofilepic4000]

@@Master-kh6ww The goal of Socialism is Communism - Vladimir Lenin

[@DrKane-ey9ix]

@@dontreadmyprofilepic4000 I don't really think you should be quoting that guy to make a point but okay...

[@DayofToast]

Could you do a video that breaks down the green new deal in detail?

[@bryanpenello8289]

No its vox

[@MuckiMuckoMuck]

Look in the description

[@chrisfox880]

Read it

[@TheOnyomiMaster]

They have an article here. Admittedly it's just a resolution with vague policy goals, rather than a bill. www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/2/7/18211709/green-new-deal-resolution-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-markey

[@50jakecs]

Or, you could go old school and read the Green New Deal Resolution. www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text.

[@preoximerias7366]

So Vox, why not make a video explaining the Green New Deal then.

[@kevinbeck8836]

They wouldnt need to if the news would do its job and frame things in an apolitical way. Alas, everyone has a bottom line to protect

[@liamout]

@@kevinbeck8836 but... Vox is part of "the news" lmao

[@mr.manifesto5235]

Because then people would realize how impractical and stupid it is. They’re essentially doing the same thing as the media

[@kobebrooks3179]

because if they actually did that, no one would be for it and find out how ludicrous it is

[@JoseSanchez-he8sk]

Look at the description. x)

[@shalinipaila3368]

Watch the video till the end ..he did added a link for full understanding of the green new deal...he took this issue as an example to explain tactical framing not about the deal !! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@under3089]

shalini paila exactly I feel like ppl didn’t even get the message

[@acapellaplug5886]

The video is explaining why people don't understand the green new deal. It isn't a GND analysis video.

[@overthinkingintrovert396]

Green new deal was too much of a nonsense, even for Democrats. Not even one Democrat voted for it.

[@ankitvarma1652]

i have read that bill and it is utter nonsense.

[@kennethmaza5090]

I see Vox understands the concept of “Tactical Framing” very well.

[@antonioc3743]

Zheim are very acquainted with it

[@badbanana0]

I just wanted to know about the green new deal

[@DamnMarjorie]

@@badbanana0 The title of the video is "WHY you don't understand the GND", and he explains it very well. If you would like to know about the substance of the deal, link is in the description, as he said.

[@Martyzx_GTR]

Wow this video literally him doing the same thing he says is wrong title very misleading also smh

[@sergiogaona9072]

that’s why in ELEMENTARY schools teach reading comprehension.

[@Kunta1926]

Maybe you could have read anything from the bill itself. Instead you just talked about tactics..... the very thing you complain about. How are you still on the internet?

[@zackanderson9453]

GUNSnSTUFF liked the comment without reading it literally cuz of ur name

[@callumpenman5992]

Because it’s a liberal site. Better question is why?

[@ScottHodgins29]

To be fair, the video is titled "Why you still don't understand The Green New Deal" not "Understanding the Green New Deal".

[@leviloveserwin1809]

That’s why the video is titled “WHY” you don’t understand the green new deal yet. It’s not going to explain the policy for u.

[@macaron3141592653]

That is literally what the video was supposed to do, that's actually what the SERIES is about.

[@gta97]

Ironically, you also didn't explain the Green New Deal and talked about the politics. Though I guess the title "Why you still don't understand the Green New Deal" didn't imply there would be an explanation, so, fair enough I guess.

[@MrChinner118]

gta97 yeah it's about why you don't understand it

[@Vox]

Yup, this is a video about how the GND has been covered by the Media, rather than the GND itself. If you want to learn what it actually is, we have a really informative write-up on our site: www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/12/21/18144138/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez

[@thoperSought]

_"... and talked about the politics."_ they didn't even do that, though. it was about the media.

[@jerrydickerson1111]

@@Vox People can't be bothered to read, though I have some of the stuff I like and im a conservative though its unobtainable because you can't eliminate gas without hurting the poor and 100% green energy is going going to have to be a majority Nuclear just from efficiency stand point.

[@gta97]

@@Vox Thanks! I should've checked out the description :)

[@oscardighton8580]

Maybe we should increase nuclear power in America because nuclear power is actually energy efficient and doesn’t produce carbon emissions and it’s cheap. Energy in France is mostly generated by nuclear and is the cheapest in Europe.

[@ferminpereira739]

But,then when we solve a problem, we create another one.Although it sounds like a good Idea now , we create another for future generations....dealing with the nuclear waste

[@randomguy263]

@@ferminpereira739 | What are you talking about? As long as we keep the nuclear waste sealed it won't hurt us. And it will eventually stop being radioactive.

[@jakelorenz3560]

dont let Greenpeace USA hear that!

[@davidmargulies4735]

america is scared of nuclear energy

[@oscardighton8580]

Fermin Pereira nuclear waste is pretty minimal if handled well

[@ahmed6507i]

How is my mans eating that string cheese at 8:05

[@xeanderman6688]

Oh, you know what happened between those two when that video feed cut off *wink wink*

[@pjninja9546]

It'll be nice if Vox also did a video about just wtf the Green New Deal is

[@alexpufahl7484]

They have an article on its contents in the description!

[@zzzzaaaa9966]

I would recommend reading the actual bill, it is easy to find and pretty short

[@tylersatter825]

Look up the green new deal on America Uncovered's channel

[@jackbarbey]

www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text. Takes 10 minutes to read

[@williamcronshaw5262]

It amazes me how many people need a non-binding resolution that is literally just a list of goals that AOC and her allies would like the US government to acheive in 10 years explained to them. There's no naunce or detail needed to explain because the bill itself has no nuance or detail, it's just a list of goals with a 10 year window to accomplish them and no explaination or plan on just how we're supposed to accomplish them.

[@ZanzebekBlog]

I thought this video would explain what's the green new deal all about

[@antenna_prolly]

TYT

[@m3kid]

Sad part is it shows research saying how many news stories like this makes more cynica.

[@dragoncurveenthusiast]

There's a link to an article in the description. Haven't read it, though, so I'm just saying, not recommending.

[@fermista]

*lights cigarette*

[@briantoro3946]

Vox makes great argument videos about how we argue too much.

[@maxheadrom3088]

I'm learning so much about my own country watching these videos. Thanks for giving a name for everything! This is not a joke, giving a name to everything is really important - and, of course, explaining the thing.

[@samanthasmith8652]

"HOW WOULD YOU BAN A COW???" I love it, I love those sepia cutaways lol

[@sararodgers8122]

Too bad it actually isn't a good idea and has no solution of substance...

[@jay.hartman1789]

That's why all this tactical framing bullshit is so frustrating. Instead of refining the idea into something workable we're just leaving it the hot mess it is and going "oh well, nothing whatsoever can be done to fix this [thing that is actually needed immediately] might as well let [that thing we don't want to happen] happen." I don't even care what your stance is on the subject. When we're making laws, Nihilism is not an acceptable excuse to do nothing.

[@callumpenman5992]

It doesn’t matter though, a bar tender told me the other day that we were all going to die in 10 years

[@jay.hartman1789]

@@callumpenman5992 Would you like me to screenshot this and send this to you in 2029? I have a list. We'll see who's changed their opinions.

[@callumpenman5992]

Jay Bloodworth yes please, she seems to be making a really compelling argument as well; getting rid of farting cows and screaming “we’re all going to die” every 2 seconds, how can you NOT believe that.

[@jay.hartman1789]

@@callumpenman5992 Saved. See you in 2029 Sherlock. One last thing before I go, you're acting like those crazies who insisted the internet was just a fad and wouldn't take off and couldn't possibly change the world in any meaningful ways. You are going to be proven wrong. And you'll kick yourself every time your children mention it to dinner guests.

[@thetntsheep4075]

Oh man, as a British resident, I'm glad my country isn't in a political and economic mess like tha-*OH WAIT*

[@a_pet_rock]

RIP your countries.

[@corruptedcola393]

At least our news networks aren't as bad as this though

[@TheMythOfTheThickSix]

Euroabia

[@thetntsheep4075]

@@corruptedcola393 yes at least they're not 😂

[@666Tomato666]

@@TheMythOfTheThickSix sure, you are completely right. If that makes you to never come over...

[@havenbastion]

The title really needs to be changed to "Tactical Framing - as illustrated by the Green New Deal".

[@frottori]

you do realise that titles need to be like alluring and not necessarily descriptive of what it actually is?

[@oNTiger]

Just want to congratulate everyone who is demanding something from the video that it never promised to deliver in the first place. It was upfront what it was about and delivered a decent segment on it.

[@falcan135]

That woman's expression at the end perfectly sums up how I feel

[@panzsan5963]

"This is literally the fate of the planet we're talking about!" "Yeah but dat 2020 primary tho"

[@gracecalis5421]

"Our planet is dying" "Taxes?" "Wha-No, do you not hear me? OUR PLANET IS DYING" "2020 Elections!" "Motherfu-nnng. We are ALL literally going to DIE if we don't resolve this!" "..." "..." *"Socialism"*

[@MrViscious]

If Democrats are so terrified to actually tell you what's in their bill then they know its bad policy. The best way to win a political debate is to explain your side like you are talking to adults not arguing like children.

[@williamcronshaw5262]

@@panzsan5963 That's just melodrama. Even if the United States completely eliminates all of it's carbon emissions in the next 10 years guess what? We're just one country and we're not even the biggest emitter on the planet. Are we also going to force every other country on the planet to do the same? Seems like a lofty goal, especially comming from the party that want's to make deep cuts to the military.

[@Ethan-of3he]

just ignore vox and read the draft yourself to develop an opinion... vox often acts like they aren't a media with an agenda as well

[@MasonsTurtle]

The news always elevated my stress level. Politics is now less about building a great country and more about tearing down other politicians.

[@nikiaspublius3504]

It’s always been like this

[@rockandrollsealionsealion9911]

It’s always been like this since our first president

[@FeelMyBirdie]

Welcome to politics 101. Care to stay for a lesson?

[@truthyfruity7759]

Every time I hear the most lucid host on CNN say "both sides blah blah" another hair fall out! Carlos is so spot on, the epidemic of "tactical framing contests" make viewers cynical and jaded and hopeless!

[@78625amginE]

Now? Welcome to the country circa always 🙄

[@endoroboto]

I was literally about to click away when you snapped in and said not to tune out lol.

[@charliewesterfield5262]

I feel like this is at the core of my parents politics.

[@icabiyas9650]

Guys, the video is called "Why you still don't understand the Green New Deal" not "Green New Deal: Explained"

[@JimCullen]

Sure, but all those headlines Vox pointed to also accurately represented their content. The problem isn't the content matching the title, the problem is the content being tactical framing rather than substance-oriented. For Vox to have done that in a video _about_ tactical framing is particularly ironic, don't you think? This would have been a fantastic opportunity to, in addition to pointing out the problems of tactical framing, also explained at least a little about the GND.

[@philippelaurent3776]

Still we need a video to understand it. Because looking up info on my own is hard.

[@moritzhapperger5807]

"The Green New Deal is an ambitious proposal that outlines how the U.S. might begin transitioning towards a green economy over the next ten years. It includes steps like upgrading our power grid and renovating our transportation infrastructure. But most people watching news coverage likely don’t know what’s in the Green New Deal. And that’s because political news coverage tends to focus on strategy over substance, fixating on a bill’s political ramifications rather than its ability to solve a problem. That approach to news coverage is known as “tactical framing,” and research shows it makes audiences at home more cynical and less informed about big policy debates. The result is a cycle of partisanship, where solutions to big problems like climate change are judged on their political popularity rather than their merit." --Info box underneath the video.

[@psychesomatic690]

@@JimCullen He specifically said in the beginning that he is "not an energy policy expert". Maybe they will make a video explaining it in the future, but at this time it seems the preference is not to guide others in something they don't have the experience to fully analyze.

[@xujacqueline14]

hey guys, for reference: here is an article also by vox that's literally called green new deal, explained. you can always cross reference sources for the best and most reliable info as well. www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/12/21/18144138/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez

[@khanwayne8281]

Why not just read it instead of doing exactly what you were complaining about?

[@yittmashups]

They know exactly what they're doing. It's so perverse to even say, but they're uploading propaganda.

[@TheEagel123]

Because they're leftists and actually reading the bill would hurt the left bc it's so bad.

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

@@TheEagel123 Liar, i read it and it's genius. absolutely brilliant, wtf- have you read it at all?

[@cooperbacon476]

SO HILARIOUS!! Zero self-awareness.

[@hawky4397]

Are you able to read 14 pages? If so, get the document with the green new deal and inform yourself. It's shorter than the TV guide

[@justaguy6216]

Tfw we get more important information from social media than the news. I don't remember the last time I've searched up something and deliberately clicked on a video by a news soure, I always go for independent creators.

[@ericmoore5021]

Great video! Even a year later there’s still no widespread explanation of what the green new deal is, that is not just talked about in a partisan way whether it will pass or not. I think this cycle of partisanship especially on issues that many people broadly agree on substantively like infrastructure updates all started from the Founding Fathers distrust of the public and its ability to understand policy. With low expectations and the tactical framing so prevalent right now, the media drives the partisanship, drives voter disengagement from politic, and gridlocks Congress further.

[@raywhuj217]

"The world will end in 12 years" Where's the hyperlink to the bill? You did not even talk about what's inside the bill.

[@corybarrier]

Also, why is she taking Ubers and Lyfts all around NYC? Has she never heard of practicing what you preach?

[@sudaphedz433]

@@corybarrier you forgot airplanes from DC to NYC instead of the train..

[@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719]

@@sudaphedz433 Maybe that's why she wants our public transporation to be improved, beacuse it's not as viable as air travel at the moment?

[@Lowkey-NoPressure]

This is a video about how political debate in mainstream media is dominated by talk of strategy rather than talk of issues. It's not a video about the green new deal, it's a video about the way the green new deal has been talked about by the media.

[@jaythrash8804]

"The world will end in 12 years". Is that coming from a rapture believing evangelical or an Al Gore "fossil fuels will burn down the entire planet" type environmentalist?

[@salokin3087]

Huh, a media ethics video in disguise? Well played

[@vyrxcx]

@@mklizzar okay Satan..

[@rileymiller7786]

Satan 5 Any evidence to back up your bullshit?

[@robnor1029]

@@rileymiller7786 irony that the guy with the George Bush picture is talking about spreading information without evidence. Hey Satan, how's that war in the middle East going?

[@dulisha]

@@rileymiller7786 google haha

[@rileymiller7786]

Satan 5 Wtf are you on about this very video criticises CNN for the way they cover the green new deal

[@leoy.8163]

Green New Deal was still not explained in this...haha good job 👍🏽

[@pebblepod30]

That's the Manipulative Media for ya 😉

[@whatno5090]

It wasn't supposed to be explained in this video

[@taakotuesdays]

That wasn’t the point of the video...haha good job 👍🏻

[@calmesdownes2114]

Please learn to read. Okay. Once you’ve done that read the title. I’ll rewrite it heat for you, “why you still don’t UNDERSTAND what the GND is” not “WHAT IS the GND”. They already have a video on it🤦🏾‍♀️ smh

[@aidenflame1576]

if u watched to the end he says that an article or something is in the description for an in depth explnation ....goodness no one looks in descriptions o.o

[@chafacorpTV]

I like how this rather feels like a pretty elaborated ad for macBooks, as some other videos seem as well.

[@unassumingaccount395]

Before you all throw a fit in the comments, the video title isn't technically saying "I'm going to tell you what the GND is". It's trying to tell you "Why no one talks about it right".

[@Angglio]

KillMeWithPotato Vox could use another example instead of the GND, but they need to hop its popularity and focus on what’s “popular”. Kinda sound like Tactical Framing for me, more audiences become cynical and doesn’t know anything about the basic information.

[@dasstein515]

"no one talks about it right"...yeah... Okay....

[@Shawouin]

Just another clickbait from Carlos... The GND is just a list of optimists goal without any way to reach them... It's about time to get a real program, not just pious dream.

[@Stella3014]

Hallah Sausage You realize that happens with every news topic right? Especially, if you have watch his videos before, he usually takes current issues as a way to explain broader concepts. It’s a way to be relevant and engaging but spread the message. I don’t see where the issue is. That’s how almost all news on KZbin and to some extent cable news works

[@thorr18BEM]

@@dasstein515 did you even watch the video? There's basically what it was about.

[@Pwner707]

Or perhaps rather than letting other people (the media) tell you about the green new deal, you can look up the 14 page document and read it yourself!

[@50jakecs]

I agree. It's not a hard read and with the internet, it's shockingly easy to find. www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text. Ever since the advent of TV, I swear society has gotten lazier and dumber.

[@sarahrose9944]

Too easy :/

[@johnwayne6647]

It’s too scary and naive to read all at once

[@wheatandtares9764]

@@50jakecs Looks like ideological garbage written by a child...You know even if america would destroy its economy and get to zero carbon emissions it would still reduce global emission only by 15%?

[@joe-ke7pu]

Thanks for the link. What i understand about this document is that it is a proposal and a framework for creating a Green New Deal rather than it being a Green New Deal.

[@CrayCrowman]

It is only 14 double spaced pages. Most people can do that in under 7 min.

[@covino1111]

So you read it.. that makes you an expert now?

[@CrayCrowman]

@@covino1111 yes i have read it and I'm 100% convinced that the people who wrote it are not experts either.

[@TheBINIBALL]

@@CrayCrowman What about the deal specifically has convinced you to come to that conclusion? Can you please fully explain your analysis on the deal and the subtext within it that caused you to question the expertise of its framers? (I'm not trying to be sarcastic or accuse you of anything. I am legitimately asking you because it's always good to hear alternative perspectives. :))) )

[@TheBINIBALL]

@Casey Cowley Could you quote some passages or show me where your research allowed you to come to that conclusion?

[@luciferangelica]

lol, i guess they updated the algorithm. youtube finally figured out i'm using my phone to comment on what i'm watching on my tv

[@hqi1321]

I liked this video! But aren't you tactically framing tactical framing?

[@bd8560]

How??

[@mattledford]

B D by saying things like “this could be great but nobody knows about it” instead of saying “this could be good or could be bad, but nobody knows”.

[@bd8560]

Matt Ledford that’s not tactical framing. I think you mean that it’s biased (which may or may not be true), but he wasn’t using tactical framing he was just explaining it. Also to your point in the video he asked “is this a good idea?” How is that tactical framing or biased?

[@mattledford]

B D I would say that it is framing due to their continued lean towards the possibility of the GND being good and never saying that it could be bad. Framing is lenses in which we see the world, using certain language to influence others thoughts. Vox does that for sure, as do most, if not all news outlets.

[@christianknuchel]

@@mattledford Or maybe they could just go with the fac-- I mean, left wing bias, as it's known today, of course.

[@kkimberling]

It’s fourteen pages. Just &*@#ing read it yourselves people.

[@michaeltodd5806]

www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/recognizing-the-duty-of-the-federal-government-to-create-a-green-new-deal

[@autumn4142]

@Oliver Action Heartland.org is a crappy conservative think tank so here's the document from the source: ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/Resolution%20on%20a%20Green%20New%20Deal.pdf

[@timeunknown]

14 pages?!?!!!

[@AniketRajAniketkno]

@@autumn4142 is the same paper. Thanks for sharing

[@AniketRajAniketkno]

is the same paper. Thanks for sharing

[@jademorales8274]

The Green New Deal During lecture, Ken has repeatedly offered many proposals in order to mitigate global warming but seemed very passionate and certain about specifically one. He suggested that electing legislators that would promote to tackle the rising global climate and overall take action of the Green New Deal’s proposals is one of the most effective ways to fight climate change. Meanwhile watching the video, “Why you still don’t understand the Green New Deal” I was surprised to learn about tactical framing and how it is utilized in the controversy of the Green New Deal in order to completely dismiss the significance of the policy and the ability it has to solve climate change. But rather instead, it focuses on legislators and how it will affect their reputation. I thought to myself how can politicians be so self centered that the fate of our life’s is completely ignored.

[@legallychristine]

So happy i found this i have watched 5 videos so far on trying to figure this "green new deal"

[@omikredarhcs8221]

It means I can't ride my motorcycle using gas.

[@FredGlt]

@@omikredarhcs8221 pretty sure gas will still be available for combustions vehicles, just not the primary source of fuel.

[@omikredarhcs8221]

@@FredGlt The only time I use a lot of fuel is to travel to go hunting. Food, and other things are up.

[@CodPlayerNo77]

Horserace journalism and the gamemification of politics ruins society.

[@dylanlaforest5019]

Hendrik S. You seem that you found that on a random video

[@black_wink1649]

Wth does gamemification mean?

[@user-ne2bb5nh7t]

​@@black_wink1649 it basically means that you or others have turned something unrelated to a sport, into a sport. This can apply to school, work, even personal goals. However, in this sense, think about how our news frames political debates, races, and elections. The graphics they use and mentalities of the people that they interview turn the whole thing into a Red v Blue circus. Watching the "live results" on election nights is presented very much like a sports game. "This district is historically republican/red, so we can count on that. But this district over here got mixed polling answers, stay tuned to see which way it votes!". The media is just as at fault as the politicians in making our country very very partisan. People treat election night like a sports game, rooting for their team, regardless of the player, all waiting for that shot of dopamine when the person you voted for wins at midnight.

[@EdPMur]

@@user-ne2bb5nh7t Well explained!

[@paperbags7670]

Soon it will be, the hunger games...

[@rannoudanames]

Sooooo, what have we learned about the green new deal in this video? NOTHING

[@taakotuesdays]

You missed the point

[@owen3721]

r/woosh

[@PabloRiosCZ]

Fantastic video, the things you speak about are really true. News seem to be empty these days and it’s nice to have trustable sources like this one which provide a real analysis and explanation of current issues.

[@Orange_Laowai]

Read the entire bill, better yet leave a link to the bill in the description.

[@jimmyagnew5955]

tactical framing? yeah thanks vox, you should know this term, you do it all the time

[@dimitarchardakliev5351]

ikr

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

no they dont.

[@vincentjames7210]

@@yogidevendrabiriyani1777 Uh have you watched any of this idiots videos?😂

[@GameWorkflow]

News flash: Its not popular BECAUSE its actually a bad idea.

[@yittmashups]

It's heartening to see logic and reasoning prevail over a subject in 2019. I was starting to feel like all hope was lost.

[@axel6269]

If it is then maybe the media should bother explaining why rather than waste time discussing political strategy, which is what this video is decrying?

[@GameWorkflow]

@@axel6269 The reason CNN and other "news sources" aren't talking about the green new deal is because it is so hard to sell. They don't want to actually explain the green new deal because it's such a horrendously bad idea they can't dress it up enough to look even a little bit smart. Conservative news sites and media actually tell you what this crap is about. If vox actually wants to fix the problem they should just take the whole green deal paragraph by paragraph and explain it. (its a surprisingly short document) Anyone curious should watch louder with crowder reading it. No commentary, no jokes, just reading the thing. Or just go and read it online yourself.

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

why is it a bad idea?

[@owen3721]

You do realize that for people like me who are first-time voters not doing the Green New Deal is terrible right? You might be dead before the climate catastrophe comes but others like myself will have to face the consequences of your stubbornness.

[@HakunaMatata-os1og]

At this point, I am more afraid of tactical framing than climate change. Climate change is but one problem of many, albeit a rather serious one. But tactical framing sends us down a path of solving nothing. Ever.

[@f.k6920]

That's a good point, we can solve any of the real issues if we aren't even talking about them.

[@Glenvel7]

Can someone explain what the GND has to do with socialism lmao

[@WiccanRiley]

Taxes would have to be through the roof to pay for it. And since people would lose jobs, they'd have to rely on the government to help them, and socialism relies on the government having lots of power over the people. So on and so forth

[@emporioalnino4670]

solar energy is SOCHIALSM!!!

[@jpaior]

I hope you appreciate how meta this is... Um... So... What is the green new deal?

[@TacticusPrime]

www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text That's the text in the House. It's just a series of policy goals, not an actual plan. It just says stuff like.... " repairing and upgrading the infrastructure in the United States, including- (i) by eliminating pollution and greenhouse gas emissions as much as technologically feasible;"

[@gw8813]

Title of the video, "WHY you still don't understand the Green New Deal".

[@tristanmoller9498]

ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/Resolution%20on%20a%20Green%20New%20Deal.pdf

[@CortezBumf]

A google search shows they have a write up on their website.

[@rowanmcclantoc5418]

@@TacticusPrime getting to the moon was a policy goal.

[@supernoodles908]

Okay, everyone need to stop making politics out of climate change and environmental impact. It's a problem that does/will effect everyone. This is the problem with everything in regards to politics. it's all about political position rather than the actual policy itself. People need to stop being left vs right I'm trying actually progress society as a whole

[@shadowfreak5859]

Yeah, but liberals want to destroy our economy by getting rid of fossil fuels. Conservatives may be rash in their defense but climate change is a complicated issue.

[@supernoodles908]

@@shadowfreak5859 they don't want to destroy the economy and the sooner the US transitions from a fossil fuel based energy system the better. This is because we'll be ahead of the energy market in a global context which will be more profitable because fossil fuels as a finite source vs clean energy which is unlimited. if you want to look at it as a purely capitalistic view going green as soon as possible is the most logical business idea. if you want to look at it from a humanitarian point of view it's better for our world so we don't die due to the climate change and mass starvation

[@supernoodles908]

@@shadowfreak5859 also the yeah but part shows your not embracing the idea of communication between the two sides. you're demonizing the other side without actually understanding why they think the way they do. also if you want to look at a good example of energy production look at Iceland where 100% of their energy is from renewable sources. Also look to places like Norway where it is a pseudo socialist capitalistic economy. They are some of the fastest growing markets in the Western world yet they have socialists tick traits but they employ capitalistic business practices. capitalism on the business scale socialism on the individual scale

[@autumn4142]

*How* you tackle the problem is premised on politics. Do you set up a carbon tax? Do you lead massive state & federal investment in new clean energy sources? Which energy sources? Is natural gas an acceptable transition from coal before 0 carbon power (clue: no)? Are you going to build nuclear power (clue: you should)? Which communities are going to get investment first, and how is the taxation organised, carbon tax or otherwise, to facilitate that? These are all political questions, but they are also all practical ones. Practically we need to be doing everything we can as soon as we can, practically we can't afford not to use nuclear power at least in some places because it's a constant (not variable) 0 carbon power source that works wherever you put it, practically major infrastructure projects tend to end up cheaper and get built faster when government managed (see: France building nuclear power back in the day), practically it makes sense to free up money for the poor by not taxing them as much as millionaires and billionaires (especially given that rich people tend to consume more and thus put out more carbon in their daily lives), practically it makes sense to replace coal plants with nuclear or geothermal or hydroelectric plants because that way we get to net 0 faster & without blackouts, practically it makes sense to enter carbon management into business decisions by making it a financial problem to pollute via a carbon tax. Whether these practical stances to make the country go 0 carbon as fast as possible align with your politics is a matter for yourself.

[@supernoodles908]

@Deva Rafael essentially

[@poppyorangeflower]

This video is very clever. It shows the tactic it's trying to explain, and it also tells us why we don't still understand the Green New Deal until we click the link at the end.

[@patthammavong6669]

100 % renewables ? How are we going to run the whole country on batteries? Rewire the whole nation so we can pay more per KW? What about the ecological disaster of dumping old batteries every 3 years

[@TerryTurner]

...and this is why mainstream media is dying... SMH! 😑

[@bonda_racing3579]

Yeah no one gonna force me to drive a “green car” or destroy my house to make it “greener”

[@cwjakesteel]

Hey! You have the same profile pic as me!

[@TerryTurner]

@@cwjakesteel 👍😂

[@vivigesso3756]

They don't even bother to expose how this is a blatant attack on conservatives.

[@Bisquick]

@@vivigesso3756 Quite the opposite. If you frame any media _business_ properly (aka as a business), their agenda will always line up with keeping the status quo to retain their power and wealth, even if they pretend they're "liberal". All the media outlets are on the same page here, despite their concocted conflicts.

[@rini6]

You nailed the reason I am so frustrated with coverage of this.

[@EdPMur]

@@MetropoleYT what do you mean by "no one has missed it out"? (English isn't my first language)

[@kevinglazier8950]

@@EdPMur Its silly and unrealistic, completely infeasible

[@EdPMur]

@@kevinglazier8950 I asked CombatWombat, not you.

[@nerdytoby8107]

Kevin Glazier true

[@flyflybaby2723]

In the GND there was a clause where money would be given to people who are unwilling to work!

[@booyahinc]

Maybe you should have actually discussed what was in the 5 page bill. What is that you were holding? Did you just grab a bunch of paper out of the copier supply drawer?

[@DirtyPoul]

The video has nothing to do with the Green New Deal, and that's in purpose. The GND is used here as an example to explain the topic of the video: how tactical framing is used in the media and why it's a problem. It could've used any other policy as an example.

[@MatthewStinar]

Everyone knows you keep paper in the prop room next to the split nib pens and the gramophones. 🙄

[@williehawaii9967]

Dirty Poul yes why democrats media is framing it as a crazy idea when it’s a crazy idea. We should push propaganda and make cows wear diapers and force people to drink their pee after 8 hours in the sun. Yes that’s in the bill go read you dumb liberals

[@askani21]

Shawn El Bucho Loco It's a video about Tactical Framing, not the Green New Deal. It's only used as an example to explain tactical framing.

[@williehawaii9967]

Vincent Godin-Filion you mean propaganda

[@jona.scholt4362]

I'm so glad someone came up with this term, I've noticed it for years. It has created a landscape where it is much more important to "win" a political battle than to enact meaningful policy. It's created this dynamic where politicians are rewarded for not compromising in any way on any thing, even when the issue is something that has a strongly supported consensus. Our default position is defensive and confrontational and it has created an environment that is as toxic as a post-nuclear/chemical war apocalyptic wasteland, essentially Fury Road.

[@jazzshepherd7129]

seriously lets get back to the issues.

[@abigaillising9929]

you do still have to admit that america isn't that bad of a place to live compared to other countries, especially if you're presumably able to type these sentences from a computer somewhere. that automatically makes your living conditions at least a little more tolerable than an "apocalypse." a politician's entire career is based on their ability to make a case for issues that are on the table. that's a political battle. the green new deal is not an economically feasible proposal to execute. it provides no incentives for businesses to actually transition to clean energy and instead relies on the government to interfere with the country's economy regardless of public interest. it would certainly be better if people were compromising, but the dems are pushing for the deal just as hard as the republicans are pushing against it. not only that, but renewable energy has failed on multiple accounts in the EU. germany, a country that has made impressive progress with their transition, still goes through power shortages and surpluses because solar and wind are unreliable in weather conditions that aren't optimal. nuclear energy creates toxic waste that these countries are still unsure what to do with. the cherry on top is that transitioning to clean energy needs more fossil fuels, more subsidization, more resources, to implement. even after that, clean energy must still have fossil fuels as a backup. some politicians know this. that's why they've rallied together against the green new deal as an idealist proposal that requires the country to go far beyond its economic and governmental limitations. that's why there's no compromise on the GND. if we were to amend it enough to make it feasible, it would just be a whole new resolution.

[@jona.scholt4362]

@@abigaillising9929 The Fury Road apocalypse reference was intentional hyperbole and a reference to the political environment. I'm under no illusion that the GND is, at the end of the day and in this environment especially, nothing more than a fantasy. But what frustrates me is that there is no starting point to tackle climate change in this country because of the de facto Republican stance that there is no man made climate change. Any proposal would be dead on arrival because of that. I'm also not blind to the limitations of renewable energy. The idea of a zero carbon emission energy grid is entirely unrealistic. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to significantly lower those emissions. And it may not be popular but I'd rather have barrels of containable spent nuclear fuel than millions upon millions upon millions of co2 emissions dumped into the atmosphere, non-stop from now til forever. Simply put it is not a simple problem, one which will require several solutions over many decades. And our politics have become so myopic and short sighted that it is probably impossible to deal with this problem. Also, I've never understood the "America is still the best even with _______ (complaint) and you are lucky to be here, you could always move to ______(insert third world country)". So, yes, America is a great place to live in , I feel incredibly fortunate to live here and in this time. We have a very high living standard and robust and resilient constitution that ensures many liberties. That said, I want to live in a country that does not settle and always strives to improve. Sure, I'm grateful. But I don't want to settle for 'being grateful'. I want to use those enshrined liberties to promote change. After all, our government (and constitution) we're never meant to be static, that's why there are amendments. So I fully recognize I took this post from one place to another but I do like to hope that we, with different views on issues, can at least discuss them with out the fall back to ad hominem attacks, even on youtube message boards. I guess I'm a dreamer Abigail, perhaps you are too.

[@M69392]

Read "How Newt Gingrich broke politics"

[@abigaillising9929]

@@jona.scholt4362 It's equally frustrating to see AOC preaching that climate change will cause the world to end in 12 years and have everyone believe her. There are unsubstantiated claims on both sides, not just the Pubs. I agree that there's been no action due to the sheer degree of polarization, but I don't believe that climate change is the right issue to focus on precisely because of that. The US already has clean coal initiatives in place with the CCPI. These and other measures, including switching to natural gas, effectively reduced carbon emissions by more than 42 million tons in 2017, the largest decline in the world. Trump is a blockhead on some issues, but I think he's got a good thing going with coal. If 42 million tons isn't enough to constitute significantly lowering our emissions, I don't know what to tell you. Fracking is still in development, and there are a lot of risks still left to be eradicated. There's no doubt that a zero carbon grid would be ideal, but like you said, we can't get there without at least a few decades. My point is that the feds are already working on helping the climate change situation in the country, but it seems that it's just never enough to people who look at Europe and their transition to zero carbon, even though we're making comparable progress. On the subject of nuclear waste, it lasts for thousands of years and its only use is to be reprocessed into nuclear weapons. Promoting nuclear energy would likely result in the proliferation of nuclear weapons worldwide, especially since a lot of countries, including America's, storage for nuclear waste is dangerously close to filling up. I find it quite concerning that you're okay with having radioactive waste continue to pile up. I've been studying abroad in China for almost 7 months now, and the situation is a lot worse here than in America. The regulations have been eased to allow for more economic growth, which is good, but the air quality has suffered by comparison, among many other things. I can vouch for the fact that the climate change issue in America is at a real advantage. I don't hate dreams. Dreams are what America was founded on, they were what changed it for the better, and they are what allow us to continue to serve the country. However, I prefer to look at what's in front of me rather than what's above.

[@patb2151]

This video is about the way in which the media focuses on the political spectacle of a certain topic as opposed to the content of that topic, discussing not the merit of the proposal, but on superficial associations to the proposal, i.e. that it’s socialist, how other politicians feel about it, etc. The Green New Deal serves as an example of this phenomenon, used as a way to discuss how potentially good proposals are obfuscated by this line of discussion. The task for Vox, then, isn’t to explain why the Green New Deal is a good proposal, rather it is to explain how confusion has been created by the media’s refusal to discuss the content of the idea itself. The takeaway from the video isn’t ‘well I suppose the Green New Deal is a good idea’, the takeaway should be ‘have I understood the content of certain proposals; have I been needlessly motivated against proposals merely because of its (perhaps unwarranted) associations’. I fear that those who perceive this as propaganda for the Green New Deal, or as tactical framing itself, have either misunderstood the video, or are needlessly motivated against the Green New Deal. I say this as someone removed from US politics (therefore, as a foreigner, not the target of, or exposed to, these media segments) and someone who does not know the contents of the Green New Deal, and so whether it is or is not a good or bad idea, seen as this is not important to this video.

[@Deeablow]

Well said. Unfortunately there’s no reasoning with fools

[@calebjimmysmith]

I thought you would explain the Green New Deal 🤣 but I suppose we have to watch another video

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

Well it doesn’t say “Green New Deal, explained” it says “Why you still don’t understand the Green New Deal.”

[@mohammedsarker5756]

Your first mistake was thinking the news would meaningfully analyze policy

[@jeffwarren1242]

And Vox just put it in a compilation not explaining the bill.

[@M69392]

It really doesn't matter if news is fake or not because it's *irrelevant* 99% of the time either way.

[@RoninJay408]

I think everyone needs to REREAD the title of this video. Its not "What is the Green New Deal". Its, " WHY you still don't understand the New Green Deal"

[@departmentofexternalservic2331]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4SmnIlsobp-faM I understand what happens when the sun goes down and the wind is not blowing.

[@christianknuchel]

I guess everyone just needs to REREAD the titles of the CNN and *NBC segments in question. Did they claim to make people understand the deal? Perhaps this is all just about wrong titles, there's no problem at all!

[@robinw8047]

This is about tactical framing... basically another name for “Fake News” Lol!! 😂😂😂

[@roygbiv9074]

It's 5 pages long. I've read it and understand that is not good enough and the people who are backing it aren't smart enough to make it work.

[@WilliamBruhhh]

It should be title why they don’t understand the green new deal. As they perfectly showed in this video

[@pattykearns5932]

Thank you, Vox, for showing us why what we call "news" on TV, simply isn't anymore. Most of it is just framing the issues for their audience.

[@elliotkamper]

The little bit in the middle about tactical framing and "most of the time we aren't partisan" might be some of the most important wisdom in 2020-2021

[@hermanlarry2118]

Learned something new “Tactical Framing” will put this in my arsenal.

[@truthyfruity7759]

Yes! OMG I am so going to use TACTICAL FRAMING to slap MSM. Maza SPOKE MY MIND = tactical framing breeds cynicism, voter apathy, and self-fulfilling PROPHESY! The worst offenders = MSNBC Joe/ Chris and CNN Cupp. Every fxxking thing is an appraisal of "angle" instead of validity or content! These Tactical Geniuses actually GLORIFY Trump GOP for their foul play! Then they act surprise when one side just blast us with pure optics and BIG FABULOUS lies! And guess who loses in Tactical Beauty Contests? Correct = The low hype non-drama-queen Democrats! MSM helped the right cripple the left and sabo DEMs every step of the way, then they cry "Democrats failed tactical maneuvers!"

[@truthyfruity7759]

So thank you Carlos thank you VOX! This is how you educate A CYNICAL PEOPLE!

[@sarahhaugh7922]

SUBSTANCE: "Global Warming" is based on computer models that use the General Circulation Model, which is an iterative (steepwise) method that beaks the model into small increments of time. The problem is that the estimation variance of the variables projected blows up! This means that whatever value the models derive is worthless! How do we know? Because "climate scientists" either refuse to discuss the estimation vsriances of their computer models or the have no idea what it even means! So before you start discussing how the GND is being discussed you need to understand what a scam the Global Warming meme really is!

[@jacobreid7077]

Well good things I can throw out your models ;) and simply ask do you not believe in pollution and it’s effects on your planets ecosystems?

[@darksideblues135]

Sarah Haugh exactly. Sims don’t do very well when they can sim right in the first place. Also... co2 is heavier than air, so the concentration is more on the ground then up in the atmosphere. So how can that cause global warming. But we must also remember that before all this, they said too much co2 in the sir would cause global cooling. I have looked at temp data from the past hundred years. There is no significant change.

[@darksideblues135]

Mr Penguin maybe localized pollution would be better. But how can the leftist raise our taxes if LA is polluted and Pullman Idaho isn’t. The sun changes our climate. That’s where most of it is coming from. There is no way that 460 parts per million of co2 will cause mass devastation. We are taking something very small. Did you know, recently, all the planets in our solar system got a little warmer? That’s because of the sun. Our contribution is negligible. Now, what id like to see government money go to is planting programs. Hire people to plant trees and other things. But ultimately that’s not what global cooling... warming.. or whatever is all about. It’s about guilt and scaremongering to allow more taxes to be stolen from us. It’s crony capitalism and it’s theft. Name he one thing the government has done to combat climate change..,

[@darksideblues135]

Jacob Reid co2 is plant food. It’s not a pollutant.

[@darksideblues135]

Mr Penguin exactly. They are fake.

[@zachb1706]

The truth is, people don’t want to see huge tax hikes, massive utility bills, and many don’t want to support someone financially who is “unable or unwilling to work”.

[@breezybaby6430]

Thanks for explaining why we don't understand the Green New Deal, but could YOU explain the Green New Deal? Would be appreciated. Thanks.

[@joncarlosoriano3417]

WATCHED THE WHOLE THING STILL DIDNT EXPLAINED WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS EDIT: GUESS WHAT THE VIDEO IS ACTUALLY ABOUT WHAT IS TACTICAL FRAMING I was clickbaited

[@zedek_]

If you had _actually_ watched the whole video, you would know they provided a link in the description that outlines the information you are looking for: www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/12/21/18144138/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez "As we will see, the exact details of the GND remain to be worked out, but the broad thrust is fairly simple. It refers, in the loosest sense, to a massive program of investments in clean-energy jobs and infrastructure, meant to transform not just the energy sector, but the entire economy."

[@christyho5231]

because the purpose of the video is to explain WHY we don’t understand what it is

[@ThePainkiller9995]

Did you read the title of the video?

[@1anep]

Cause, embedded in The Green New Deal, is a policy for federal wealth distribution, where Americans unwilling to work will receive a living wage. The Green New Deal is considered very problematic by both Republicans and Democrats.

[@Jack-Raynor]

We in Germany have a Green Party in our Congress and Government since the nineties, and their messages "We have to save the World" "We invest in new Energy" sounds always fancy, but in my opinion, the end product is always socialist planned economy...

[@Milesjoshua25]

This reminds me of how the UK initially presented BREXIT.... 😭

[@jackhenry1899]

Miles Groce not even close. UK didn’t pass any sort of strategy for Brexit prior to the vote. No one had a clue what Brexit was when they went to go vote. In this case, Democrats are outlining what the Green New Deal might look like prior to voting any commitments to the GND.

[@bri1085]

Brexit means Brexit

[@user-ne2bb5nh7t]

@@jackhenry1899 Yeah, the Dems are doing that, not the media.

[@macaron3141592653]

To all the people complaining about tactical framing of this video, the video is talking about tactical framing. So it is SUPPOSED to talk about strategy and politics, not the substance of the bill. That is actually the whole point of this series. To talk about strategies and trends in political discourse. There are more in depth videos about the individual issues.

[@fkostyuk]

You got the Steven Crowder audience commenting, what do you expect? Crowder is a bad faith actor who uses sophistry to dunk on the libs instead of discussing substance. Like he is bad even by conservative sophistry standards

[@donnakluck9135]

How many coal plants are there in the world today? Haven't checked the numbers? >> The EU has 468 building 27 more... Total 495 >> >> Turkey has 56 building 93 more... Total 149 >> >> South Africa has 79 building 24 more... Total 103 >> >> India has 589 building 446 more... Total 1036 >> >> Philippines has 19 building 60 more... Total 79 >> >> South Korea has 58 building 26 more... Total 84 >> >> Japan has 90 building 45 more... Total 135 >> >> China has 2363 building 1171 more... Total 3534 >> >> That's 5,615 projected coal powered plants in just 8 >> Countries!! >> >> USA has 15 building 0 more... Total 15 >> >> and the "green new deal" wants to shut down those >> 15 plants in order to "save" the planet.

[@seunsan360]

ohh my. This is why Andrew Yang is surging. Substance over tactical Framing. I hope he keeps it up. very refreshing.

[@Millionsofpeas]

I hope he doesn't. Yang is not a good option. If you dig into the actual politics behind what he is advocating for it is just more neoliberalism. It obfuscates the actual problems we have in this country with class inequality. Giving everyone a boost in money wont change that

[@Wth969]

Millionsofpeas that’s not even his goal. Yangs goal has been to use the wealth generated by us industry to benefit the rest of the population in a sense to raise the floor of us living standards instead of lowering the ceiling that someone can aspire to like many pure socialist policies aspire to do

[@ayylmao2190]

@@Wth969 ah yes, because healthcare/affordable college certainly doesnt raise the standards of living!!

[@henrysmith8455]

Millionsofpeas The main focus of UBI isn’t on fixing wealth inequality

[@jag1087]

Julian Lee, Only if you want to hear UBI, UBI, UBI.

[@noemiej.marquis732]

America : imploding. Rest of the world : grabbing popcorn.

[@taakotuesdays]

Matt M. Britain : imploding less interestingly

[@GanGGreeNShow]

We gave the dumbasses 8 yrs of power. WtF were we thinking. You cannot let the mental children tell the adults what to do.

[@judahtirona9487]

Matt M. The rest of the world has big problems of their own. Myanmar genocide, Sudan's endless chaos, North Korea is still crazy stupid, cruel, and starving, the Arab spring is still in full swing, the Refugee crisis, Artical 13, the weird Brexit no deal, China's new social card, and ect.

[@kylehankins5988]

@@GanGGreeNShow Trump is really not that eventful. Not even the AFL supports it.

[@chan625]

Not really.. everyone has some broccoli on their plate

[@CanadensisKrew]

I'm not an expert" = I can't read a 6 page policy

[@covino1111]

Reading ≠ knowing and understanding things

[@taakotuesdays]

Reading a six page policy =/= being an expert

[@friedrice4015]

He's not an energy policy expert. That means he isn't an expert on energy policy as a whole, which includes things outside the green New deal. He's being honest about his weaknesses, not saying he hasn't read it.

[@yatharthpandey2701]

I’m starting to hope there is some sort of global crisis with real implications so we can dump on these “people” with We told you so

[@gnomsrepnay]

that went well didnt it

[@EpicAndMore]

Would have loved to have seen if Vox has also been covering this through a tactical frame.

[@mld962]

Vox yet to explain the Green New Deal

[@Carewolf]

www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/12/21/18144138/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez

[@psd993]

@@Carewolf are you too stupid to read or do you think that article doesn't have meta stuff? or do they get a pass for being self aware? the academic in the video said even *mixed* presentation has lasting impact on cynicism.

[@justanetizen6504]

Because they are doing tactical framing

[@Carewolf]

@@psd993 They literally say in the video where you can find where they went more in depth, which was in the description. The only problem is you not paying attention.

[@davidc5867]

@@justanetizen6504?

[@tacobellappreciater]

When the Green New Deal is only 5 pages but he is holding like 30

[@BrendonKing]

Jellapper Lökkäs use a normal font and don’t double space and presto: five pages.

[@known_film4081]

Its 14 pg

[@garybailey4489]

Why you still dont understand what journalism is

[@natees123]

Gary Bailey funny bc this is actually a very good analysis of journalism itself. You can't argue against any of his points.

[@energyeternal]

The corporate media is not on the side of the people.

[@AR15Si]

"Welp. It was fun while it lasted" -humanity

[@coreypierce7757]

I like how you didn’t even site the bill and your not even holding it. Do you ever site anything or do you just pull this BS from thin air?

[@NathanCroucher]

0:25 i had to pause it to get comfortable, cause i knew this was ganna be fun.

[@univacbill]

This is brilliant. Well done. The problem isn't limited to your country. Canada is struggling with the same tactical framing problem and it's spinning us in circles.

[@MsSarcasticSmirk]

Are we? I was wondering if we're affected by this but wasn't able to think of a specific example, at least not that I can recall. It does depend on the outlet as well and to an extent, the issue itself, I guess.

[@univacbill]

Nisha Mohan You won’t see it for a few months yet. Canadian news isn’t as centred on new policy until election time. Watch as new platform ideas are floated and I think you’ll see a lot of “How this will appeal to voters” coverage.

[@univacbill]

Ian Mak I wasn’t thinking of SNC Lavelin since there’s no new policy involved. Your summary of that was brilliant, BTW.

[@momerathsx]

Same is happening in terms of the coverage of Brexit.

[@momerathsx]

Lord Azreal Lais I have no idea what’s going on

[@ophirbelkin5958]

This is a really good video explaining one of the biggest problems with the mainstream media, but I think a lot of people are disappointed vox didn't explained what the green new deal actually is

[@juanmedrano6997]

I like how Vox literally isnt far right or far left, they just give you the facts. Yes maybe some of the employees are far left, but the articles are still reliable sources and I use them during debates with teenage Republicans and I also manage to get a higher advantage.

[@juanmedrano6997]

@@etcghostgaming3639 teehee wap

[@Fireball-nx6mq]

This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I think this was amazing and I love that you are helping people see past partisan squabble. Thank you.

[@ravenr876]

Solar power needs lithium battery's and lithium is a environment catastrophe

[@masterpepe3641]

Raven R it also needs silver which we do not have enough of in the crust to do what she wants

[@BrendonCap]

Mr Penguin nuclear fusion is absurd on a large scale. Unless cold fusion is a thing... and it wont be in 2020

[@BrendonCap]

Mr Penguin no my first language is spanish, sorry. And no i dont think solar panels will be viable. Oil is good although nuclear fusion is good to in the future. Some ships use nuclear fusion and dont have to be ‘refueled’ for 50 years

[@BrendonCap]

Mr Penguin oh, my bad again.

[@ChickenSpeed]

can you post a link to the bill in its entirety?

[@yertnert2624]

I think we need changes here and there but with all the transitions and with the amount of time they want it by would cause our economy to go under quickly.

[@axel6269]

I'm not sure the economy should be the priority when we're discussing matters critical to the fate of humanity.

[@masterpepe3641]

Cant wait to be on a super fast railway to France collecting my check because i’m unwilling to work

[@darksideblues135]

mr. mr. Me too. Totally unwilling.

[@KeithMetoyer]

The video is saying WHY you don't understand the Green New Deal... it never said WHAT is the Green New Deal.

[@luxstar2476]

beforeitsnews.com/v3/alternative/2019/3670762.html : The grid part explained by Will Ny (the other guy). What happens when the sun goes down and the wind is not blowing? We will return to the 1800's every night. and wake up in the 1940's every morning.

[@Robert-nf7lo]

people don't know how to read a video title. very informative.

[@abinashroy3923]

Your way of delivering the content is just on another level..

[@someonehere8280]

Yea vox makes it actually interesting I can’t even listen to the news rant it’s so disturbing and insisting and all they do is yell over each other I’d rather read something than listen to the news but vox actuallly lets you have your own opinion and let’s you think on it.

[@samfcarvalho]

I thought you were going to explain the GND, but now I've just got cynicism towards vox

[@rini6]

“We can’t say it’s too aspirational. It’s the planet.” ...exactly.

[@grmpEqweer]

The oil companies worry more about short term profit.

[@TheSenate517]

And you worry more about putting our children in tens of trillions of dollars in more debt.

[@katanamaru1]

I've seen plenty of videos, post, etc saying how the gnd isn't feasible. Can y'all do a video showing how it is? I'm interested in seeing how people are either interpreting it or getting it wrong. As others have pointed out this video doesn't actually talk about the bill in any detail.

[@Zarion106]

Maybe you guys could link the GND in the description.