Why You've Been Tuning Drums Wrong (learn the RIGHT way) | Ableton Tutorial

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About this video:
Learning to tune my drums the right way in Ableton was one of the first things that got me feeling some confidence as a producer, so I'm hoping to get some of you guys up to speed who might not yet be in the know!
I'm on a quest to determine the most essential things to learn in order to start sounding more like a pro and less like an amateur. Understanding drum tuning is essential to making a cohesive, natural sounding track. So, I wanted to make a video to save you some time you might have spent guessing or feeling down on your drum game.
Let me know what you guys are working on and what you need help with, so I know what to plan for my next tutorial!

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@Jfknosc0pe1
@Jfknosc0pe1 2 жыл бұрын
You just confuse people bro. Don’t make videos u obviously have no idea what ur doing
@FuriousTyphoon
@FuriousTyphoon 2 жыл бұрын
why do you say that?
@flynninhoofficial
@flynninhoofficial Жыл бұрын
think its pretty clear to me... not really confusing
@a2bs333
@a2bs333 Жыл бұрын
1 Subscriber and zero content 😂
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts 9 ай бұрын
The first four minutes is him staying check me out I'm so cool.
@wiflex1414
@wiflex1414 3 жыл бұрын
you talk like you constantly run out of breath
@Bthelick
@Bthelick 2 жыл бұрын
FYI transient sounds like claps don't have pitch, sorry to break it to you. but they are just transient noise. some snares and toms do, but generally drums don't you only need to be concerned with musical clashes in the lower octaves (under 120hz). so longer kicks will need attention anything else don't worry. (btw I'm a professional and a professional ghost for others of 15 years+ with 200million+ streams in just dance music you can trust my advice here)
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 2 жыл бұрын
maybe i misspoke but we’re talking about tuning fundamentals here, not transients. maybe there won’t be musical clashes, but it can be more pleasant when drums are tuned in key. that said, i don’t spend much time tuning these days and am perfectly fine with the result. so whatever you’re into :)
@Bthelick
@Bthelick 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds yeah all sounds have fundamentals, but only sounds which follow the correct harmonic series have discernible note pitch. you were trying to tune a clap musically which just isn't applicable. sure they can be pitched like any sound but that's done only for aesthetic reasons of timbre (personal sound preference) not musical tuning.
@larsi1206
@larsi1206 Жыл бұрын
@@Bthelick i agree. U can tune sounds like 808s and maybe kicks... Things that have a audible tonality to them. I completely agree to tune things like Acoustic drums or samples that have an audible tonality and that Frequency shifting is a better alternative to tune drums than the sampler’s transposition controls But This is just waste of time... I dont think if u tune every "nontonality" perc it would make your mix sound any greater. Its about picking right samples that clashes together right. Not tune them... and i dont think any person that listen to music daily thinks about your snare is 3 semitones off the scale.....
@jessecampbell4580
@jessecampbell4580 Ай бұрын
Yeah there's a reason a band is able to use the same drum kit for a whole performance, playing a variety of songs, in a variety of keys and still have it sound great. Like you said in your vid production/composition is an art, so to each their own, but I don't see how this would be necessary.
@Demented602Beats
@Demented602Beats 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! this answered all my questions
@polarnj
@polarnj 2 жыл бұрын
That was amazingly informative! Thanks so much for explaining it so well. Also it’s cool to actually see someone show why the alternative technique is inferior and then seeing the recommended approach in more than one interface (proQ, Manalyzer and Spectrum) really helped clarify what’s going on
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 2 жыл бұрын
so glad you dig it man!! really appreciate the comment
@AlphonseSemaan
@AlphonseSemaan 2 жыл бұрын
bro... that was amazing. i've been looking for this for a while.. thanks
@R1pTheJacka
@R1pTheJacka 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool tip. One suggestion for everyone - change the settings for Ableton Spectrum to get a cleaner graph with these applied: Block - 8192 Channel - L+R Refresh - 60.0ms Avg - 1 Graph - Line and Max Scale X - Log Auto 0 to -120 Make sure to save as default so that these settings pop up every time you add the analyzer too
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Appreciate the comment
@agentm00se
@agentm00se 3 жыл бұрын
isnt that just the default settings anyways
@badafrican8035
@badafrican8035 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentm00se No it’s not
@agentm00se
@agentm00se 3 жыл бұрын
@@badafrican8035 it is for me
@badafrican8035
@badafrican8035 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentm00se well that’s good
@danielabilez3619
@danielabilez3619 Жыл бұрын
It is a must to tune the drums
@mellow_frequencies
@mellow_frequencies 3 жыл бұрын
Using the freeze button in Pro Q3 works amazing, thanks for the vid !
@Iseehennessey
@Iseehennessey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man this was very informative out of all the videos I watched on this specific focal point in production you were by far the most detailed to make it very understanding everybody else was just kind of bland and just ran through it as if I should already understand by now so thank you for that
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I appreciate the complement! So glad to hear it 👊🏼
@idegbetegbendeguz4888
@idegbetegbendeguz4888 4 жыл бұрын
Many people say your kick drum has to hit at 50Hz exactly. If the fundamental freq. is at 50 that means my kick is tuned to one certain note. What if my track is in a different key? Or when its hitting at 50Hz can that be a sideband or does it have to be the fundamental freq? Or is the 50Hz rule just bullshit?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 4 жыл бұрын
Yo thanks for the comment! Yeah I mean tuning the kick to "exactly" 50hz is bullshit, although it's not totally clear what they mean. Like you said, that means you're tuning your root note to 50hz which doesn't always align to the key you're working in. I'm sure in certain genres, there are certain "best practices" that are thrown around as being the secret sauce to make your drums hit right. Maybe whoever says that just thinks that 50hz is his favorite frequency to perceive in kicks. As in, there will be information in the 50hz range regardless of the tuning, and perhaps it is important to hear it. It's also possible they mean 50hz is *around* where you want to find your kick fundamental.
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 4 жыл бұрын
In practice, you will definitely see root notes hitting higher and lower than 50hz, and sometimes even a little lower than 30hz. But the lower you go, eventually you will stop perceiving notes and only perceive the feeling of sub. What you want to do is scan through with your EQ and figure out in which octave the tone of your kick has the most effect on your mix. Then work on correcting and/or emphasizing those frequencies. Generally, when someone says to "always" do something a very particular way, someone is wrong.
@idegbetegbendeguz4888
@idegbetegbendeguz4888 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds Thank you! I have a few ideas on how to (FM) get a fundamental note at 50Hz with modified harmonic series but it's so much fuss for basically nothing. And in practice, I'm not even sure it's actually possible. But as I suspected the 50Hz thing is way too dogmatic.
@RogerSartet007
@RogerSartet007 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Most things I already had my suspicion about, but it's nice to see them acknowledged by a third party. I'm using SPAN as spectrum analyzer. Question: What about the hihats? Do you keep 'em in tune with the snare/claps?
@sw1ftyrange1
@sw1ftyrange1 Жыл бұрын
dude, more content plzzzz
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment dude! What kind of stuff are you interested in seeing?
@sw1ftyrange1
@sw1ftyrange1 Жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds thanks for the reply back! Really interested in more mixing tips for intermediate level folks :)
@ironkid36
@ironkid36 3 жыл бұрын
Luke, u da real mvp
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
appreciate it Red :)
@MastrKillz
@MastrKillz 2 жыл бұрын
Doing the lords work ! Thank you 🙏🏼
@4ktraveltours
@4ktraveltours 3 жыл бұрын
Luke can you please make a video of you making a song and show all the steps on how to tune
@CryptoWhaleRider
@CryptoWhaleRider Жыл бұрын
Great Video! The insight and suggestions are gr8! What about tuning the High, Mid & Low Toms?
@M189-i3b
@M189-i3b 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome man !!
@sunrise600
@sunrise600 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha I love the pinned comment is the most negative one. Well played. I loved the video! I took away some really powerful ideas to try here so thank you
@YG2210
@YG2210 3 жыл бұрын
Bruhhhhhhhh just show us the most effective way not several ways to be confused. Music is NOT math
@ernestoblancof.7583
@ernestoblancof.7583 3 жыл бұрын
this is a game changer ! thank you so much for sharing ! cheers !
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it Ernesto!! Thanks for the comment :)
@Arneson469
@Arneson469 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up. You are easy to listen to
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colton! Very much appreciate you dude
@sunrise600
@sunrise600 2 жыл бұрын
one piece of feedback at the end can u please play the before/after? It really helps (like before tuning with ak ick and without tuning)
@musicbyjon5447
@musicbyjon5447 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Super informative, thanks man
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon! Super glad to hear it. Appreciate the feedback dude
@hyt8997
@hyt8997 3 жыл бұрын
Tuning in fl studio is easy. Just pull up Edison
@DJEAZYB
@DJEAZYB 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the info 👌🏽 Never thought about using the frequency shifter before 😁👍🏽
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 4 жыл бұрын
appreciate the comment brotha! so glad you liked it 👊stay *tuned* for more
@Joshh.K
@Joshh.K 3 жыл бұрын
watching the tut now but if u automate frequency shifter on some snares u get the classic metal but wet Neuro dnb snare
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joshh.K Nice dude I hadn't thought of that! gotta love a good neuro snare
@mz3912
@mz3912 5 ай бұрын
great video.... but stop that vocal fry
@dominicflippin5571
@dominicflippin5571 3 жыл бұрын
next time play the beat so we can hear the difference between the tuned and not tuned
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
good call, appreciate it!
@lewchootrain
@lewchootrain 3 жыл бұрын
What do you usually tune the hi hats to if the kick is at the root and snares/claps are on the fifth?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I would try the root and fifth and see if you like either. Probably whichever one preserves the quality of the sample
@diegom1931
@diegom1931 Жыл бұрын
Love the video, not ur vocal-fry voice...😊
@agentm00se
@agentm00se 3 жыл бұрын
awesome vid, thanks a lot. 1 question tho, if you are tuning your kick to the root note, what is your bass tuned to? :)
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment and I'm glad you liked it! In the song I was working on in the video, the bass more or less follows the root of each chord in the progression. So in this case it will sometimes hit at the same note as the kick because the 1 chord is included. This could change depending on the style of song you're working on, or whether the 1 chord is part of your progression. It's pretty likely that your bass will hit at the same note as the kick at some point in the song though. Lemme know if that answers your question :)
@agatameger4372
@agatameger4372 6 ай бұрын
ffs bro wrap it up and get to the point
@KrisFjord
@KrisFjord Жыл бұрын
Luke, you're a top donny. 👌
@JonCarrNet
@JonCarrNet 2 жыл бұрын
.....but......deadmau5
@ast4127
@ast4127 Жыл бұрын
Question: Im in D minor, but my kick in E sounded pretty off, however tuning it to D makes it ”warehouse techno” kind of, so would you say F might be better? Sure I know ”listening” is what matters but in theory… Thanks!
@EBMZEQUENZER
@EBMZEQUENZER Жыл бұрын
This is madness !
@Asiosky211
@Asiosky211 3 жыл бұрын
oh man, ive been using ableton for yyyyeeeeeaaarrrss. always saying im "self taught" when really i've taught myself fuck all. well im really good at making a muddy mix if that's what you're after haha this video was perfect. easy to understand, shown on several different VSTs including native ones. keep it up man!
@apoena-allnitemusic7203
@apoena-allnitemusic7203 2 жыл бұрын
I think transposing can damage the sound so much so what I do is keep the kick in any note inside the scale and it's the only drum sound I actually tune. Claps/snares I will maybe toon if they are sounding strange.
@orbithesun1
@orbithesun1 3 жыл бұрын
Its not art if you’re not using your own ear to tune each individual element and overall mix. It’s painting by numbers. Just ask Mozart!
@Cappingcappy
@Cappingcappy 3 жыл бұрын
Would you say this is the best way to tune 808’s?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I would! Bass frequencies can be really finely tuned with the freq shifter without affecting the high end content because low octaves span fewer Hz.
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I should add though, that if you're taking an 808 from a drum kit, it's probably already tuned to a note. In which case you should be able to use the transpose function to move it between semitones. It probably depends on how much mid/high end content is in the sample as to how much you'll benefit from the freq shifter
@Cappingcappy
@Cappingcappy 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I see but if I use the frequency shifter on 808s would that be superior because it’s more accurate? Or would using transpose just be easier?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cappingcappy If the sample isn't tuned to a note at all, (ie: in between notes) then definitely use the frequency shifter. But this isn't likely because the sample was probably created with a synth that is hitting a note. If you need to re-tune between semitones, try out transpose. If the sample deteriorates too much with transpose, try out freq shifter.
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 2 жыл бұрын
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@ozone1979
@ozone1979 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing easier than throwing the sample into Backbone. Actually... correction: nothing is easier than Bitwig Sampler's pitch detection.
@GoodxJ
@GoodxJ 3 жыл бұрын
peace yo! keep up the great work young Skywalker!
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
preciate you brudda 👊🏼
@ibrahimomarmoktar8304
@ibrahimomarmoktar8304 4 жыл бұрын
cool video
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 4 жыл бұрын
appreciate it dude!
@avefuqua
@avefuqua 2 жыл бұрын
Show us how to Tuneindividuals Sounds in the Ableton Kits , please.
@robertbargeld9783
@robertbargeld9783 2 жыл бұрын
BRO MAKE YOUR POINT
@HHDbeats
@HHDbeats 2 жыл бұрын
He did very well
@fourgic
@fourgic 3 жыл бұрын
3:22 Love is the answer!
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
well said :')
@fourgic
@fourgic 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds that’s cos I understand the feeling, man! Btw, I make music together with my wife and we will really appreciate your judgment! Please, check out my instagram @4dasi ❤️
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@fourgic that's what's up dude! just followed
@ryanmartinez2876
@ryanmartinez2876 Жыл бұрын
Tuning drums is goat-level.
@lewchootrain
@lewchootrain 3 жыл бұрын
Also with the frequency shifter at default, does it put sounds at 180 phase with that knob at the bottom left of it?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
i think that phase knob is only in reference to the LFO, so it's not doing anything if you're just using it for tuning
@aaronmarana1859
@aaronmarana1859 3 жыл бұрын
Cant you use eq8 to find the note it'd in?
@wesleyleigh4063
@wesleyleigh4063 3 жыл бұрын
if you unwarp the drum track and then pitch it down, is that the same as using frequency shifter? or is that different still?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Wesley! Not the same- unwarping just makes the length of the sample change in proportion to the pitch change.
@naynresmi
@naynresmi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@supersmartshaurya
@supersmartshaurya 4 жыл бұрын
great stuff!
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shaurya!
@Pxy212
@Pxy212 9 ай бұрын
Really helpful thanks!
@elev11n
@elev11n 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful vid man, love the multi plug-in views as well as the final tip. Subbed!
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 2 жыл бұрын
thanks a bunch Daniel! glad to help
@MiguesDJ
@MiguesDJ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, bro!!
@julioagueros
@julioagueros 3 жыл бұрын
Useful video!
@haydin9605
@haydin9605 3 жыл бұрын
What would you use in Logic to do the same thing?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you can use Ringshifter as a frequency shifter. Then use your preferred spectrum analyzer to monitor the tuning. I'd still recommend MAanalyzer or Pro-Q as far as 3rd party because I'm not that familiar with stock Logic plugins.
@lewchootrain
@lewchootrain 3 жыл бұрын
If you're sampling a song like Adele for example, should you also not use the transpose knob because then you're doubling the frequencies like you said?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on what kind of sampling you're doing, you could get some interesting results trying different tuning methods. Like old school hip hop sampling- you could use any method to end up with something unique. But if you're sampling to use a piece of another song like a drum, I'd still recommend freq shifter. If you're sampling an entire arrangement with multiple instruments, I believe you'd want to use transpose in order to keep all the instruments in tune. Know what I mean?
@lewchootrain
@lewchootrain 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds Got it thanks man!
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewchootrain right on
@lewchootrain
@lewchootrain 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlmostHomeSounds If it's something like a piano or strings run with just one instrument, should is the transpose knob still ok? Or should we use the frequency shifter?
@AlmostHomeSounds
@AlmostHomeSounds 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewchootrain yep, transpose! shifting the frequency in that case will affect lower notes more than higher ones, which will not preserve the relative pitch between those notes.
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