Why your DRUMS Sound like SH*T in a MIx!

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@Ouvii
@Ouvii 6 ай бұрын
I'm challenged when it comes to visual aesthetics, so this isn't a value judgement, but I love how the last video's comments were "Wow! Amazing video editing." And this video comments are "Woah, hold on with the editing there. Stop it."
@Skyler12759
@Skyler12759 6 ай бұрын
Glenn deciding to 127 the editing
@MarcCoteMusic
@MarcCoteMusic 6 ай бұрын
It amuses me that we spent countless hours over the decades in studio trying to reduce bleed as much as possible and now we're putting it back in. Of course, the reason it sounds natural is because we were never able to completely eliminate mic bleed. I have to say, even though metal is very far from what I do, these drums do sound great and so does the mix.
@chance2smoke
@chance2smoke 6 ай бұрын
A drummer edited this video. The ADHD is off the charts.
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
Trying a new style. Will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the feedback!
@thatguywiththeguitar7203
@thatguywiththeguitar7203 6 ай бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios Personally if you can reduce the amount just a hair I think it will be dope!
@chance2smoke
@chance2smoke 6 ай бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios of course. Love the channel regardless.
@tonedowne
@tonedowne 6 ай бұрын
I like it, but I do have adhd and I do play a lot of drums
@cxywxlf5104
@cxywxlf5104 6 ай бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios I love the new look man !! Super professional
@nicolasm4771
@nicolasm4771 6 ай бұрын
It's great to see Glenn having made peace with programmed drums. The problem with them is usually musicians trying to create the most perfect performance without realizing it will sound unrealistic and robotic in a mix. Not to mention some times the drum tracks are "practically" impossible to play for a human drummer (leaving out some amazing human machines, of course). Great video, Glenn!
@espenstoro
@espenstoro 6 ай бұрын
It's a necessary evil in our day and age. It really helps to study drummers and learn how to properly write for drums. It's so easy to drop some notes on the grid, but it takes time to imitate a human being. Very few will put in the effort.
@darealboot1
@darealboot1 6 ай бұрын
As a drummer who had the pleasure if recording on 2" tape AND has assimilated to programming my drums with midi, thank you for this video. Dynamics is everything to authentic percussion.
@espenstoro
@espenstoro 6 ай бұрын
25 years of programming drums has taught me a lot, especially early on. I had very limited options, so it took every little humanizing trick to make it sound remotely passable. No programming, I played it on keyboards and got my own natural dynamics and timing that way. When I moved on to Superior Drummer, I already knew how to make it work, plus I've had the chance to work with real drums in the meantime, which was the end goal anyway. I use the raw samples instead of presets, export offline with all the bleed, and mix it like a real kit. I'm still surprised by how good it sounds. I'll always prefer the real thing, but we work with what we have and make the best of it.
@LAZERBEAMBAND
@LAZERBEAMBAND 6 ай бұрын
I have never been this early. Been watching for what feels like a decade. F you glen thanks for all the help man
@redsharp2
@redsharp2 6 ай бұрын
Im really appreciating the new editing style! as many have said its a bit much but to be more productive, i think its the screen sweeps and frame tracking thats really doing it, i think the vfx are great and keep the video interesting, but the constant moving frames might be whats doing it!
@justinhoffman1111
@justinhoffman1111 6 ай бұрын
i treat my program drums like real drums as in- - i record them out to their own stems - kick/ snare/ toms, overheads, etc and then mix them like regular drums this makes them sound so much more glued to the actual mix no matter how good they sound in the plugin i find that without doing this they never sit as good as they should
@DarkLightSwordFight
@DarkLightSwordFight 6 ай бұрын
Yeah thats what i was saying in the first comment...but somebody thought i was being a know it all....hhahaa funny how that works. People dont wanna hear they dont know what the fuck they doing even if its the only way to get better is to find out what your doing wrong.. keep it classy ya animals
@psychicer5022
@psychicer5022 6 ай бұрын
I do the same, once i get my velocities and humanization right. Even had glen think it was a real drummer once on his mix reviews
@HasserWeissfang
@HasserWeissfang 6 ай бұрын
I agree. The basic sound from the plugins doesn't cut it. I do parallel compression, mixing as if it's real drums, so on and on. The only thing that I struggle with is getting the toms right, but practice makes perfect
@blkrbbt
@blkrbbt 6 ай бұрын
Thats why I like using the TR8s... you can mix and insert effect compression and eq per track, or multi track into the daw over usb... and if you dont want that Roland sound, you can load samples as well.
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg 6 ай бұрын
I'm trying to learn to finger-drum at the moment. I don't play piano whatsoever so it's like trying to eat cotton wool, but I feel like it's really worth it. Not only do your fingers kind of act the same way that a drummer's limbs would to give that sort of natural flow to it both in terms of timing and velocity (and stuff like hitting the cymbal/hihat harder when it accompanies a snare), I've noticed with my botched finger-drumming, unlike with programming drums where you very often just loop four bars over and over, that because you get bored playing the same thing over and over you mix it up a lot more, and consequently it's much more interesting for the listener too. And all this shit you do fully unconsciously. Yeah it's tedious learning to do it and it's much easier just busting out the piano roll, but I feel like it's really worth persevering with.
@l4nes
@l4nes 6 ай бұрын
gonna be another voice saying this editing is way over the top. it was good before Glenn. if it ain't broke - don't fix it!
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
Trying a new style. Will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the feedback!
@sebastianviuf
@sebastianviuf 6 ай бұрын
Brick snare is the perfect word to describe the typical Humanitys Last Breath/Octanecore snare. I can never find out if i like or dislike it to be honest
@westopher6
@westopher6 6 ай бұрын
That Spring Thing sales pitch was so perfect that I bought it! Extinction level 2.0 blows EZD3 out of the water with features and samples.
@weasle76
@weasle76 6 ай бұрын
Way too many years ago than I care to remember, I used to use Music 2000 on the Playstation for drums and synth/piano tracks when recording at home. I VERY quickly learned that not maxing everything gave a more realistic performance, and I've carried that through to this day with modern drum vst's. My brother, on the other hand, is totally max out everything!
@DragosGeomolean
@DragosGeomolean 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the humanize MIDI feature in reaper: I prefer to use the Humanize MIDI plugin (stock Reaper) before the drum vst. The plugin is better because you can go back at a later date and tweak the settings. The Humanize Notes feature is baked in the MIDI, making it harder to make changes later.
@TheOriginalEUrban
@TheOriginalEUrban 6 ай бұрын
"Your producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic Park
@espenstoro
@espenstoro 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to Option Paralysis Park.
@rickraydubs
@rickraydubs 6 ай бұрын
Lol
@RodrigoOliveira81
@RodrigoOliveira81 6 ай бұрын
I love "Pacman playing drums"
@randallhaney7909
@randallhaney7909 6 ай бұрын
Constantly Playing at a very loud volume.. You said "Drummers don't play like that" A drummer from a marching band ? Wil tend to do exactly that. We hired this kid and most or all of his experience was with a "Marching Band" . His timing was right on; he had a meter like a swiss clock. Along with great over all speed; and clean fills. But geezz did he ever pound those skins with a vengeance .. It took a while to break him of that constant high volume playing. And not compete with the other instruments and vocals. And to congeal (volume wise) with the feel of the rest of the band, And the mellower songs in particular. All ended well, But it took a lot of work & patience from everyone involved. give & take and positive reinforcement all around. Talk about the bad .. but celebrate the good.
@ryanriggs9963
@ryanriggs9963 6 ай бұрын
In drum line we're kind of just at 100% all the time lol, there's no room for dynamics when you have to match your articulation perfectly with ten other people. Focusing on one skill at the cost of another
@randallhaney7909
@randallhaney7909 6 ай бұрын
@@ryanriggs9963 Yeah man I wasn't meaning to knock the skill, teamwork or dedication to be in a drum line, Only that he had to kinda reacclimate his technique to a different kind of musical setting he wasn't used to.
@nicholasmullins3693
@nicholasmullins3693 6 ай бұрын
Should've yelled at him "PIANO!" 😂
@NuclearHeadshot
@NuclearHeadshot 6 ай бұрын
Had a crazy skilled drummer on stage when I was running sound at a local metal bar once. He hit the snare like it killed his girlfriend. I didn't bother micing it up, it was still louder than anything else. Even during really fast skank beats, the snare was overpowering everything else. I even felt the pressure from the sound wave through my ear plugs.
@randallhaney7909
@randallhaney7909 6 ай бұрын
@@NuclearHeadshot LOL Classic .. He hit the snare like it killed his girlfriend .. Dude I'm going to use that one LOL
@captainclaytonic7283
@captainclaytonic7283 6 ай бұрын
A while back, Glenn had a video about compressing the drum room mic to really make them pump. Now, I've been bussing all the digital drums to a channel with a room reverb and compress the shit out of that. I don't know if that's something others do, but I've been happy with the results.
@BittersweetDuality
@BittersweetDuality 6 ай бұрын
Yeah add me to the too much editing pile please and thank you
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
Trying a new style. Will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the feedback!
@swanofnutella4734
@swanofnutella4734 6 ай бұрын
ELE has been a godsend. It DOES sound good out of the box, almost. I tweeked a few things. 1) The amp filter on the ride is wide open, the tails are so long they feedback and need to be backed off. (Though I prefer to have them and back off than not have them at all.) 2) The splashes have too much klangy transient and not enough sibilance for my taste and require some tweeking. ...some other thoughts: Some people will encourage you to de-grid your programs for a more human feel. Use this more sparingly than some may suggest. Your human feel comes from dynamics more than time. Save de-gridding for hitting two cymbals or toms at the same time, and for the occasional busy fill, but 90% of the time, you can get away with keeping things on grid, leaning in on dynamics and you'll get both human feel and tightness. Depending on genre, you can pancake your kick, 'cause real drummers have been using triggers since I was young, but dynamics are your friend elsewhere, especially the snare. If you do pancake anything, don't baseline at max volume. For special moments, you want somewhere to go. /tl;dr rant. (sorry)
@reverendprophet
@reverendprophet 6 ай бұрын
I think this is probably the perfect time for me to buy the spring thing since i have been wanting to pick up element bass for awhile and this just gives me a bunch of other fun toys, midi drum loops and mix tutorials for basically free. THANK you Glen! Also, maybe I'll do a demo as an actual bassist once i have the new stuff up and running. I'm constantly bugged that the same guy playing guitar is playing the bass part in all of your videos. (I know it's easier for production purposes and having the footage be matchy but it sure would be nice to hear a bass player play bass on this channel every once in awhile.)
@TheAT5000
@TheAT5000 6 ай бұрын
One tip I recently picked up was, "Don't use a compressor on your drums, use a clipper". By making the top of the drum's transients a square wave instead of keeping them as a sine wave and compressing them down; you can keep the full power, while still limiting the peak level. And don't worry about the distortion, TRY IT! See if you like the sound ✌️
@Jooj2112
@Jooj2112 6 ай бұрын
This is an AMAZING tip for a bunch of other instruments really. Soft clippers some times are smarter choice than compression, and we all forget about it
@justsomedude5727
@justsomedude5727 6 ай бұрын
I've been trying to think of how to do this but couldn't remember how, any recommendations for clipping vsts? Preferably analog/tape simulating?
@Jooj2112
@Jooj2112 6 ай бұрын
@@justsomedude5727 Dude there are great clippers there is that purple one that is not very expensive. I use Free Clip 2 (not great, but does the job)
@fathuman
@fathuman 6 ай бұрын
I found clipping the drums to be ESSENTIAL, especially on heavier tracks. Drums absolutely devour headroom so the day I slapped a clipper on a drum bus and immediately gained back 6-8db of headroom without any audible distortion was a revelation from the gods.
@NLNPNL
@NLNPNL 6 ай бұрын
@@justsomedude5727 if you have Reaper, Event Horizon is nice and included.
@jawmunji
@jawmunji 6 ай бұрын
Funky Drummer on C64! What a blast from the past! Thanks for reminding me of that!
@stm113
@stm113 6 ай бұрын
SD3 has some great “randomize” function that is useful. There’s one for velocity and one for timing. I go by the rule of 125 max for kick in the loudest part of the song, 120 max in verses etc less for mellow parts, then vary the hits. For snares 120 max, 115 max in verses etc… Timing wise I like for every 16 measures to fall perfect on the beat. I usually use what I call the metronome kit piece (hat, ride or possibly crash) and vary the timing on that in SD3 since it’s the most used part, then adjust the rest of the hits around the ebb and flow of that. Sometimes I just select all hits and let SD3 randomize it all, then go back and fix the “wonky” stuff.
@zaturnneo
@zaturnneo 6 ай бұрын
I was cranking out demos left and right with Acid (or Orion) and my old Alesis SR16, "back in the day". I still use Reaper and FL Studio when I need a quick track. Once you figure out the nuances, you can fool most people's ear.
@djdanger9812
@djdanger9812 6 ай бұрын
Chill with the lollipop Mario brothers editing and subtitles! Keep it real brother that's why most of us dig your channel to begin with! Still waiting on the console update, your workflow and how you've implemented your outboard. I want a Genesys too!
@Dan_Mahoney
@Dan_Mahoney 6 ай бұрын
Great video for live recording technique too Glen! Always entertaining! Right now, I am recording with all drum mics through SSL Channel Strip 2's. Only use the expanders on individual drums to preserve volume and dynamics. Also use SSL XEQ2, Saturator and Buss Compressor 2 on Drums Buss. Parallel with Empirical Labs Arouser. SSL FlexVerb for reverb. A little snare buzz is not a sin.! Gonna play with some UAD stuff next.
@Jayteaseepiirturi
@Jayteaseepiirturi 6 ай бұрын
The Extensions of Reaper have this drum humanizer specifically. It's got some presets for some of the drum plugins out there, Toontrack for instance. It's labelled Superior Drummer, but it works on EZ Drummer. Gets me a nice Lars-ified beat for my Metallica thingies. It's got a lot of tweaking possibilities. Try it.
@darzik
@darzik 6 ай бұрын
This is such a great video. I have worked a lot on making sure I don't peg the velocities in my tunes. After seeing this, I know I still have much to learn. Thanks Glen!
@Johnnie_Sinister
@Johnnie_Sinister 6 ай бұрын
Here for the hair.. and comments lmao. great job Glenn, I love your Extinction drums
@lamkin9188
@lamkin9188 6 ай бұрын
Really great video, love the new editing style
@dshredmusic
@dshredmusic 6 ай бұрын
Henning's video about programming drums where he explained the likes of Bonham and Porcaro was pure greatness.
@Synster73
@Synster73 6 ай бұрын
Always excited to see a new upload from Glenn!!!!
@Studio42dotCom-Real
@Studio42dotCom-Real 6 ай бұрын
I remember programming my MIDI sequences on Master Tracks Pro to play my drum machine and percussion modules and patches. The 127 syndrome was a BIG problem. So was the "R2-D2 humping a toaster" as everything was quantized, or at least rigidly on-beat due to how Master Tracks Pro worked(it could all be tweaked later). Humanizing wasn't anywhere near as good as it is now and back then because the trend was more for "quantizing", which made sense back then as people wanted their electronic music as tight as possible. I found myself simply playing things one or two things/pads at a time to get some "feel" in both dynamics and timing. When tracking real drums, yes, bleed was a part of it. I don't now why some guys always tried to get things so "surgically sterile" as it just didn't translate well down the line. I think it's so cool you've added a "bleed" function to ELE. I always prefer real drums, yet I like what I'm hearing with this.
@Ran-tan-tan
@Ran-tan-tan 6 ай бұрын
I've been using Jamstix as my drummer for well over a decade now. Does pretty good job with humanizing the hits even in hand programmed midi.
@seanabbottband
@seanabbottband 6 ай бұрын
Recording Drums is an art and a science, you have phase correlation, and a number of other elements that make a great drum sound, including Mic placement and room.
@Sinisterbvnny
@Sinisterbvnny 6 ай бұрын
I think one of the big things is definitely people not mixing the drum programs they get. Yeah, some are "pre-mixed" but I still feel like you can't on-size-fits-all something like that
@mikaelnyblom
@mikaelnyblom 6 ай бұрын
Funny...we've always used 100% programmed drums and while I caught on to velocities and swing quite early on, I only started compressing and EQing the drums a couple of years ago, and it did make them sound better. BUT, I've been insisting on keeping our older sound banks (DHF, Mixtended) and combining them with other drumkits like GA & MT Power Drums; the reason being I want a unique sound and not sound like everybody else. Those older soundbanks are perhaps in more need of EQing than newer ones, idk. Anyways, I might try backing off the EQ a bit and combine it with more clever and restricted compression on upcoming tracks. Thanks for the tips and FU Glenn!
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 6 ай бұрын
My programmed drums are at first finger played on a Korg Nanopad 2. I then quantize them so they're at least in the pocket. I'm a crappy finger drummer. I also try to keep the velocities down around 100 but it depends on the part. Going to have to check out that Snare video. AND learn how to not over compress. Ooopsy! Great video. Hey Glenn, can you ever do one on panning guitars? I'm having a blast listening to the new Judas Priest album but I can't figure out how they pan the guitars.
@Hansipp
@Hansipp 6 ай бұрын
I have always used the bleed in MIDI drums. Due to when I got to a place when I could tune and record real drums, I wouldn't need samples! Even though I use them when it is the only way, but nothing brings me more joy than "HOLY SHIT YOUR DRUM MIX SOUNDS AMAZING!" And I'm like "No samples😉" I think everyone should leave the bleed on 100% with programmed drums due to you learn to work with it! Even though there it can be very tempting and satisfying to turn it down and crank the top end on the snare.
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 6 ай бұрын
I totally caught my R2 unit banging the alexa to the tune of Afternoon delight!? My china crash is always 127 so it hurts! 🤘🏽
@krata420
@krata420 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that 127 effect aka infant annihilator drums with gravity blasts made of rim shots😂 Love IA btw. Great video Glenn!
@Tysandifer
@Tysandifer 5 ай бұрын
I rarely mess with all this stuff. I record everything, master the levels, and thats about it. I dont eq (besides the overall master ) and it sounds great.
@tyretear1263
@tyretear1263 6 ай бұрын
also reaper has a "Humanise" feature on the piano midi roll, you can right click above the keys and it is in edit>humanise and you can adjust both timing and velocity to be randomised in percentages and every note not sounding *exactly* on time really makes drums sound less robotic and "midi" if you get what I mean
@tyretear1263
@tyretear1263 6 ай бұрын
nvm this is mentioned in the video lol
@ItalianAvalanche
@ItalianAvalanche 6 ай бұрын
Glenn I had an idea for a challenge for producers to mix tracks without hearing the tracks at all or even being told what the genre is and challenge the producer to only use visual spectrum analyzers to mix and apply effects and then reveal at the end. I think it would produce some really fun and whacky results.
@gabeghost666
@gabeghost666 6 ай бұрын
ive been doing tis process myself. I learned it form Adam Nolly Getgood, he has like a target for each peice of the drums. Its a range but never goes to 127.
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 6 ай бұрын
I'm a drummer and guitarist, and run my own small recording studio. When I record a band, they'll often agree what they want for their mix, then one at a time, sneak back in to see if they can get me to bump up their instrument's volume. If I let them get away with it, they'd peg the soundboard on every instrument or vocal. 😅
@ac34116
@ac34116 6 ай бұрын
tried that mixbus compressor on a punkrock mix im working on instead of compressing individual drum hits by like 3-5db and dialing back on some more extreme eq.left a hit of parallel comp and result sounds almost nearly as loud maybe 1 db less rms overall but glues much nicer and sounds more snappy phat and natural.. always humbling what one plug in can do in the right spot instead of hours of fiddling
@nikolatomic5287
@nikolatomic5287 6 ай бұрын
in cubase, there is option to shuffle velocity and position of the midi note. keep adding until you think that drummer is terrible, than pull back a bit and that's it
@RiloRox
@RiloRox 6 ай бұрын
missed these mixing videos over all the guitar reviews!
@darkonation
@darkonation 6 ай бұрын
Ok, I have a question. Might be a stupid one but I’m going to ask anyway: I bought an electric drum kit and would like to add new sounds to the drum module. Can I use Extinction Level Event to do that? Any chance for a video on that kind of thing? Not sure if this is the right place for such a question but people seem to be very helpful here. Appreciate any feedback! 🤘
@HarvVideoAudioStuff
@HarvVideoAudioStuff 6 ай бұрын
I’m a really big fan of this channel (I watch every video!) but I can’t get on board with this new editing style. It makes me feel nauseous, Glenn please 🙏🏻
@Duzidan
@Duzidan 6 ай бұрын
Perfect Timing! I just bought EZ Drummer about a month ago to record my own music and this came out at a perfect time. I’m guilty of the 127 velocity on everything. Thanks and fuck you Glenn!
@charvlim5159
@charvlim5159 6 ай бұрын
I used to dislike edrums alot for looking like a toy., until i knew you could upload Duplantier’s(gojira) drum kit sample to your alesis then all of a sudden edrums made so much sense, you could play and practice at night, in a condo, its portable, no more expensive and complicated drum mics, consistent recording and sound performance., i am now convinced edrums is the way to go… iv’e had the forum and export series from Pearl and excited to get a Strata soon 😊
@aragorn767
@aragorn767 6 ай бұрын
Glenn, can you do a tutorial on how to properly install your virtual instruments. I recently bought Extinction Level Event to use on demos, downloaded Kontakt and Native Access for Windows (via the email sent by Spectre Digital), and downloaded the TCI files. I used the license key on Native to access ELE. It recognized it, and asked for the folder location. I assume that's for the TCIs? No matter what folder I direct it to it comes up with a "wrong folder" error. I reached out to customer support via opening a ticket, but its been going on 6 days now without a reply. :(
@Trevoire520
@Trevoire520 6 ай бұрын
The TCI files are for use with Slate Trigger. Not Kontakt.
@ChernobylAudio666
@ChernobylAudio666 6 ай бұрын
Native Access wants you to point it to the Kontakt Library. Click on "Locate" and then go to the folder with all the Kontakt instruments and then it should connect.
@aragorn767
@aragorn767 6 ай бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 I guess the next question would be where do I get the Kontakt instrument? There was no download link for that on the email.
@jerrywemhoff
@jerrywemhoff 6 ай бұрын
we did a metal album and a rock album using UJam, and the lower velocity values sounded like ass. Hence, we used between 80 and 100, but my issue as an engineer was that the hit samples themselves weren't varied enough: it still sounds good enough, but it can sound fake. Now we're using AIR Strike 2 and FUUUUUCK it's a night and day difference. I have stacks upon stacks of DVDs from Future Music so I have months worth of sample libraries I can use to load them up. When you're doing MIDI drums, variation is fucking VITAL.
@louisburley1597
@louisburley1597 6 ай бұрын
I just use a drum bus compressor and I turn down the compressor on the individual snare on ML drums mixer I think people should just buy Izotope Ozone because it has gain matching which will stop people from thinking louder is better on their drums. We’ve all been fooled into louder is better and it’s a great tool to get us to stop doing that. I’ve hit a compressor way too hard because it made me hear that instrument more.
@ChadAV69
@ChadAV69 6 ай бұрын
Glenn this is one of your best videos
@jackhamr1035
@jackhamr1035 6 ай бұрын
Quick question, I don't know if this is already been answered so apologies if it is. Why is it that when I load up one ez drummer track with a bunch of other guitar tracks, base, effects, keys, etc. it's always so quiet. I admit I do mix on a pair of Corsair gaming headphones (cuz im on a very tight budget alongside living with people with thin walls and shitty acoustics) going into my line 6 Helix working as my interface. The lazy way is just to load up multiple easy drummer tracks in a copy paste type of way. I know that's not the correct way cuz it sounds like a weird chorus effect. I should also note that I'm just not a good mixer and I am a beginner. Any advice would be great thank you. Cheers and fuck you from east Long Island
@Jaspertine
@Jaspertine 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a metal producer, so disregard my opinion if you must, but I will say, I've been having a great deal of success using the velocity to alternate strong and weak hits on the hi hats, goes a long way to making them sound more natural, especially when programming with a swing feel.
@blkrbbt
@blkrbbt 6 ай бұрын
I write all your drum bus tricks down, and was wondering how much you mix in the doubled snare reverb with the actual snare. (I know it depends, but what should you be looking for in quality)? Thanks!
@JustinAdams_music
@JustinAdams_music 6 ай бұрын
The template download hasn't worked for the last 24hrs. I put in my email and I'm getting "an error occurred" message. Hoping to get the template so I can try out ELE! Thanks for the spring thing sale Glenn!
@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 6 ай бұрын
Things I learned along the way... - If your drums are too low in the mix, don't turn the up, bring everything else down. - Velocity adjustments are your friend. It helps to understand how a drummer plays. - Drummers aren't robots, it's ok to play around with the time alignment.
@kalpunga6105
@kalpunga6105 6 ай бұрын
Hey Glenn is there aany chance that I can purchase the midi grooves but I want to create my own pack. For example I would like to buy only the power and the thrash grooves which they are in different packs. Thanks in advance
@dannysymbolic3217
@dannysymbolic3217 6 ай бұрын
Hey, where are the courses and the Laney plugin? They were not included in the spring thing when I bought it.
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
Check your email, then hit tech support if you don’t get anything. I’m traveling & don’t do support over KZbin
@ramseyomery
@ramseyomery 6 ай бұрын
great song that dude was playing in the background
@joshuamartin7932
@joshuamartin7932 6 ай бұрын
Would you say Extinction Level Event is good for punk rock too? Or is it too heavy?
@gilbertspader7974
@gilbertspader7974 6 ай бұрын
Glenn I love what you do. I understand you want to reach a wider audience. The pace on this is too fast for a 60 years old disabled, stoned Bass player!!!!!! Can you take it down a notch ?????
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
Trying a new style. Will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the feedback!
@melodious2261
@melodious2261 6 ай бұрын
I need to stop the 127 velocity haha
@MartinLuxen
@MartinLuxen 6 ай бұрын
That's why I bought an electronic drum kit... bring the humanity back! (and easily fix mistakes as a drumming guitar player)
@TheLeidBringer666
@TheLeidBringer666 6 ай бұрын
I Love this ad, Im stuck to it 😂 Thank you for your Video, it's very useful for mixing a live Set on the rush🎉
@BasicDrumming
@BasicDrumming 6 ай бұрын
I like 2:1 compress but go through 2 compressors. Have you used double compression?
@TheEndless560
@TheEndless560 6 ай бұрын
Yeh a great hack for double kick velocities, just as a starting point, is to take all left hits and just drop the velocity by 5 points
@psebowuser
@psebowuser 6 ай бұрын
I’m so upset with you trying to save me money, how dare you.
@unclecrassius2318
@unclecrassius2318 6 ай бұрын
but setting small send of snare into kick won't make real bleed effect that has different phase, eq, even compression. i think that section was oversimplified, or am i missing something?
@chrisdover8507
@chrisdover8507 6 ай бұрын
No mention of parallel compression. This is the most important aspect to mixing drums imo. “I send the kick and snare to a parallel compressor “ - Randy Staub
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 6 ай бұрын
I’ve backed off compressing everything, and just comp the master bus. That’s it.
@chrisdover8507
@chrisdover8507 6 ай бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios personally I send kick n snare to an 1176 for close mic sustain.
@intriguedviewer501
@intriguedviewer501 6 ай бұрын
Shout out to the editor for being able to keep my ADD brain focused with all the edits... its not an easy feat
@donknotts3548
@donknotts3548 6 ай бұрын
Only another add'er can edit for add... That's so much work.. lol
@andresilvasophisma
@andresilvasophisma 6 ай бұрын
When I program drums I always set the velocity to 127 and align everything to the grid as a protest for all the drummers I had to deal with that couldn't hit for shit and played with a lot of groove, and I mean a lot.
@studio42.thelivesessions38
@studio42.thelivesessions38 6 ай бұрын
when i am programming drums i usually start with a given preset beat (addictive drums user here, the presets are not on grid at all) what fits best to the groove i have in mind... as it is mostly the hihat work, the dynamics, that are tricky and sound really unhuman when doing it from scratch. then i remove all kicks and snare hits and doing "my own thing"... mostly works fine though ;) thanks for the video! and yes... i never or barely use comp or eq on them because they mostly sound perfect when leaving them alone.
@studio42.thelivesessions38
@studio42.thelivesessions38 6 ай бұрын
and... not to forget.... fill ins... i always change them, even when they are meant to be the "same"
@REDLINEROADS
@REDLINEROADS 6 ай бұрын
Glenn is generous with these offers, I won't be able to purchase the spring thing yet because the economy is biting me in the ass, will it be available next year?
@TheRealFreekBos
@TheRealFreekBos 6 ай бұрын
FUCK... lets do that one more time...
@BryanVacchio
@BryanVacchio 6 ай бұрын
I’m lazy. Is there a plugin that varies the midi drum velocity for you?
@BOTx5
@BOTx5 6 ай бұрын
I use one of the Uringtone drum VSTs. The only compression I'll add to the snare is only AFTER I've done all the programming and have bounced all the drum tracks to actual audio. And I'm only adding a tiny bit to add a bit of snap.
@marek.p
@marek.p 6 ай бұрын
I see a lot of comments about the editing being over the top... for me with my attention span of a goldfish it really helps me focus on the video, so I like the general direction you've gone, but maybe it doesn't have to be at 127 all the time. Anyways thanks for the vid, very useful information for us beginner home studio producers!
@TehGrumpyDude
@TehGrumpyDude 6 ай бұрын
To quote Glenn from the video: "Just use it sparingly."
@smeemusic
@smeemusic 6 ай бұрын
Hey Glenn. This may be a ridiculous request due to logistics that I’m unaware of so let’s see how this goes. I purchased Trigger 2 and a couple expansions several years ago and I never ventured beyond that. So what if I want to replace recorded drums with a drum from ELE? I’m assuming ELE doesn’t come with tci files…? So if it doesn’t I would also assume that as a company you may not want to make your samples for another companies product. Extreme emphasis on assume. Soooooo what would it take to make your own triggering software? I may be just having one of those ‘I wouldn’t mind just trying something new’ moments or I’m just unaware that some companies do include tci files for use in trigger 2. I mean I want new sounds not necessarily new software. I can’t possibly be the only consumer that would like new trigger tones made by Glenn Fricker himself! Edit. I just did some research and found that a few companies like get good make .tci files. Still I want some Fricker samples yo! Second edit. I should have looked further into this. lol I got it figured out now.
@Trevoire520
@Trevoire520 6 ай бұрын
It literally says on the ELE webpage that it comes with TCI files...
@ChernobylAudio666
@ChernobylAudio666 6 ай бұрын
ELE has TCI files, and secondly, if you wanted to turn the drums into ELE, you can convert the shells into MIDI and then runt he MIDI through the ELE instrument.
@LeChapeauMusic
@LeChapeauMusic 6 ай бұрын
seriously, this is the editing i was waiting for on this channel. so much valuable content, anyway, but now it's well edited which makes it a thousand times better.
@ArielEduardoAlba
@ArielEduardoAlba 6 ай бұрын
Ahhh... Loved the WARNING from Mega Man X
@murrayguitarpickups9545
@murrayguitarpickups9545 6 ай бұрын
Did you see Anderson's pickup comparison video Glenn? Rob Chapman was able to pick them all.
@CyberChrist
@CyberChrist 6 ай бұрын
Hi Glenn, Does ELE offer an easy way to reverse the panning of all the drums to simulate a left-handed/live situation kit? Cheers, and fuck you, of course ;)
@acidbath3226
@acidbath3226 6 ай бұрын
drums are all transients so I find it's always best to just max the attack on the compressor and set the ratio as high as possible
@jmstep67
@jmstep67 6 ай бұрын
How do you send all the separate tracks from a MIDI drum plugin to their own tracks in Reaper?
@4tbm-gy3iu
@4tbm-gy3iu 6 ай бұрын
This video triggers me. Did you record on tape in the early days? And how did you do that? At home I work with an Aria 504. Yeah, I know it is ancient technology, but I have a lot of fun recording with tape. And thanx for al the videos with good advice.
@branmacman
@branmacman 6 ай бұрын
2 words, Mike Fraser. Dude is god at Drum sounds.
@captainconvulsion
@captainconvulsion 6 ай бұрын
It may be because its 4/20 and im in the clouds. But i dont mind the editing. Ill try again tomorrow.
@kevinslater2981
@kevinslater2981 6 ай бұрын
How am I just finding out about the humanize function in reaper!? Such a simple change immediately made my drums sounds better!
@masdrums2643
@masdrums2643 6 ай бұрын
Is the global compressor on the drum bus or the entire mix?
@wykydrone
@wykydrone 6 ай бұрын
Where is this drum interface in reaper? I'm wanting to learn how to program drums finally
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