Why your excuse of high bore axis isn’t as real as you think….

[@christianvalenzuela1118]

My guy regripped 3 different ways and he shot that flat as hell😭

[@jongreen7360]

When you have a heavy gun with a heavy light up front the guns gonna shoot pretty flat. It would be flatter if he gripped it properly and it had a lower bore axis.

[@christianvalenzuela1118]

@@jongreen7360 I’ve seen guys that can’t shoot that full size sig that flat. Ofc you would say that🤣

[@jongreen7360]

I can shoot a subcompact gun flatter than that with a good grip and if that’s the tungsten infused grip p320 with a light it will shoot pretty flat without any input. 99% of guns that have what’s considered to be a low bore axis are so much lighter there’s no comparison and he was wrong about everything he said in the video.

[@Woktosstactical]

​@@jongreen7360he's got a video shooting a 43X the same way on 1911Syndicates channel and it's flat

[@gabrielf1911]

​@christianvalenzuela1118 ofc there are guys who can control recoil at all. The light helps a tad. He's got good recoil control for sure. But that's not the point. Point being, a lower bore axis inherently will have less muzzle rise. Because of basic physics. The higher the bore the more leverage the recoil has. That's just a undeniable fact. You can shoot high bore axis guns well, but you can shoot low bore axis guns better. Either way, just train with what you have. Be proficient and it won't really matter too much.

[@StarDangerous0]

Me: You owe me 3 bullets...

[@cee3]

Proceeds to only fire it once at a time where recoil means nothing.

[@evanott3490]

People usually flub the first shot as far as not controlling the snap. Then milk their grip for shot #2 and bear in tighter. I think by doing 3 different casual press outs the point came across fine lol. His point is. Fix your grip don’t blame the gun.

[@phil2082]

Torque is force times distance. Bring able to manage more recoil in a worse design doesn't magically make it a worse design. This "expert" is obviously not an expert, nor is he making points that need to be made in order to teach people.

[@Osprey1994]

If you can't see how flat that gun is, then you're part of the problem. 😂

[@zachrwagner]

I see you forgot to use your basic comprehension skills and eyeballs

[@gibsy22343]

That wasn’t his point. The gun doesn’t matter if your grip is shitty so not sure what you’re getting at.

[@chrisj1982]

That’s the reason why I get info from multiple sources and then cross compare.

[@BrassBashers]

Here's a stat for you: my split times in IDPA were slower with the P320 over the Glock 19. It definitely affects things.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

@@BrassBashers Because your grip sucks

[@casey2053]

​@@ModernSamuraiProjectsomeone got their feelings hurt.

[@Andyrewk]

@@ModernSamuraiProject so you think the Glock is a better gun? im confused. if they have a shitty grip wouldn't they have a worse time with a worse gun? seems the Glock is better then for people with a weak grip. which I guess is most people. so buy a Glock?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

@@Andyrewk Jesus Christ. Did you even watch the video?

[@kevinblack8512]

Dude didnt even double tap so he didn’t prove his point.

[@michael7324]

Watch the recoil. The weapon doesn't more.

[@mattysee24]

Nah, he did, ur just nitpicking. It's ok, I do it to.

[@tommyroberts867]

He's probably forgotten more than you'll ever know.

[@IamCreekRanch]

The gun literally didn’t move when he shot was the point. He was making sure everyone knew what was actually happening instead of just talking at them and wasting someone else’s ammo

[@Aspis_1-0]

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[@SniperAlias1]

I love the internet. Y'all take one segment and blow it up without attending the class or knowing the full reference from what he teaches

[@isukgaming8933]

“Let me show you how I control this recoil” proceeds to shoot one round per 2 seconds 😭

[@rybaneightsix5085]

Support hand *mitigates* recoil. Bore axis relative to the firing hand forearm still determines how much muzzle flip that support hand has to deal with. I thought this was pretty well established

[@julianjames2899]

Do you complain that you can't control your recoil because the bore axis is too high? If your answer is "no," the instructor isn't referring to you. If your answer is "yes," then your support hand needs attention. Nothing but solid advice.

[@gabrielf1911]

​@@julianjames2899 either way higher the slide, the more recoil you have to manage. That is a established fact of physics. It's a pesky little thing called leverage. While you should be able to manage recoil of your pistol. Lower the bore axis and you have to deal with less leverage working against your ultimate goal of recoil management and accuracy.

[@travispowell2471]

@@gabrielf1911well said.

[@hoot1141]

@@gabrielf1911 That’s completely false.

[@tomasteply1956]

Didn't even dare to drop it on the ground 🤣

[@murphyrutledge5590]

Do you normally try to drop your pistols?

[@tomasteply1956]

@@murphyrutledge5590 I don't, but when I do, I prefer them not to go off🔥

[@frankisyourdaddy]

​@@tomasteply1956still beating that dead horse, you obviously have never owned one. Super reliable, even when dropped.

[@uurkisme]

Polite of him. Since it isn't his.

[@Wolkersdorfer02]

It's just a meme. P320s are completely safe.

[@macgyver2169]

I don't disagree with anything you said, but in your demonstration you didn't example recoil control because none of the shots were consecutive.

[@NotSoSophos]

There is recoil every time the gun is fired so there is control required.

[@macgyver2169]

@@NotSoSophos you must not shoot much. I can shoot a desert eagle with my weak hand in a bad position once without regard to recoil. You don’t “need” to control recoil if you shot once because there’s no follow up shot and a 9mm isn’t big enough of a round to cause anyone to drop the gun or something. My kids shoot 9mm. You only need recoil control for consecutive shots.

[@LinkxUSMC87]

​@@macgyver2169you must not read much. You can still clearly see his recoil management on single shots.

[@macgyver2169]

@@LinkxUSMC87 It's cute you think you can visually see his recoil control from a distance. Lets see his groups with consecutive shots on paper and we'll determine his recoil control

[@LinkxUSMC87]

@@macgyver2169 it's sad that you can't. You don't need a group to see that pistol was barely moving more than an airsoft pistol in his hand.

[@StevosMfDen]

You could see the tall slide effecting the reset still lol

[@paddypibblet846]

What does that even mean? Seriously. Sounds like a made up statement just to hate. If you're trying to talk about the slide bounce, that's completely due to not having experience with a particular gun and not knowing how much pressure it needs to return to zero.

[@BrassBashers]

My split times were slower with my P320 vs my Glock 19. Higher bore axis affecting recoil on most guns like this with the Browning tilt action barrel is a real thing. For some reason with 1911's it does not effect me, I can shoot those very tightly and as fast as I can squeeze the trigger.

[@JPE432]

​@BrassBashers because the 45 is a big slower round and isn't as snappy and pushes the round back Into your hand instead of up, or maybe I just made all of that up , see I cam do it too lol

[@StevosMfDen]

@@BrassBashers it's a combo of the tall slide, bore axis and the grip module style. I shot the p320 before I was constantly fixing the m17 and m18s in the Army. They literally stay in the arms room and everyone runs the glocks. The p320 has a terrible recoil pattern and has to many parts that have to be swapped to keep it shooting.

[@MF-Rell]

​@@StevosMfDen Uh huh.

[@empizzle8]

Well said, I've been using your guidance on mastering the red dot.

[@GreatWhiteSquid]

Bro that sucks because its just been in the past year ive found your channel and absolutely love watching them. But I totally understand brother. You have to do whats best for your family and yourself. God bless you Andy, and may He bless all that you do in love. We love you man!!!!

[@ericcicero5853]

Have the Icraus grip mod with a gas pedal on my 320. Can pound rounds no prob.

[@xoan9426]

Do you love yours as much as I love mine? I got the polymer one with gas pedal on the left side. What a difference. (for 365 macro)

[@Wade-1]

Bore axis does matter its physics. Hes just better at controlling it. 1911 is usually heavier, has better trigger, which lend themselves to accuracy.

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

Fire a standard GI model and get back to me

[@Aspis_1-0]

He's got so much trigger time and experience, it doesn't matter what platform or accessories at this point 😂 kzbin.infonGmmDHSaJT4?si=J3DzpVuQTuKbK92z

[@jdm8798]

Came here just to check and make sure everyone was still arguing with each other and talking shit over completely meaningless youtube videos that have zero effect on their lives…. Yup sure are. Good day gents

[@zackroessner4229]

Yes we are fuck you I love you have a good day yourself

[@tuck234]

Honestly, it's hilarious to read thru. lol People arguing pedantically about Jed's demo is some cosmic irony given how they all complain about how gun laws are pedantic nonsense.

[@binderfan436]

YT comments always delivers.

[@lone_wolf_kinda_person8486]

YT commenters are filled with the most haterade for no reason half the people crying over a 320 has never even put one in there hands let alone shot it and that’s just on this video topic

[@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28]

The comments are so meaningless that you took the time to comment about it...

[@nicsu2128]

Just because you can control the recoil doesn’t mean a higher bore axis doesn’t create more felt recoil. If the bore axis was 10 feet over your head, but magically the gun was the same weight, the strongest man in the world would have a hard time controlling the recoil. It’s physics.

[@HailSithisSmokeSkooma]

@nicsu2128 you’re technically right but it’s so minute in this case that blaming the bore axis seems like weak wrist energy bro

[@blackjack3599]

Thinking like this the Hudson and Daniel Defense H9 would do well. It’s as low as it can get. But no one is saying how low the recoil is compared to other handguns on ‘feeling’

[@Wolkersdorfer02]

The issue is people like you make it seem like a big deal, when in reality it's 99% shooter 1% gun.

[@nicsu2128]

@@Wolkersdorfer02 How did I make it sound like a big deal? Because it exists? Because physics exists? It can be mitigated, but recoil is a science. My wife only comes to the range with me a couple times/yr. Not nearly as much as I’d like her to. She picked out a P365 5-6 years ago and it kept having failure to eject because she was limp wristing. 2-3 visits to the range over the course of the year or so she still had problems and would have a FTE 2x/mag. I let her try my hellcat pro and she still didn’t have great form but didn’t have a single FTE. Thats now her pistol. It would be great if she would shoot more. But I still want her to be able to defend herself and my children while I’m away. I just take preparation for an event where I have to use a firearm more seriously than she does.

[@nicsu2128]

@@HailSithisSmokeSkooma It’s not minute to my wife. I take my 10yr old daughter to the range every Sunday, but my wife only comes out 1-2x/yr. And it’s like we’re starting from scratch every time. But I still want her to have a gun she can fire without having a FTE due to her limp wristing. She couldn’t get a mag off from her P365 without a FTE due to her limp wrist. But she doesn’t have any FTEs with the hellcat pro. So that’s what she has now. I’m not saying she can’t shoot flat with proper form, as my 10yr old 90lb daughter shoots my CZ shadow 2 flat as can be. But I’m going to consider height over bore, weight and recoil when shopping for a woman who isn’t a brass junkie.

[@sifulowang]

He took a custom spot directly behind the recoil travel. Essentially made his own grip - made it perform. I bought an Arsenal Strike One so I have that understanding he used molded in polymer. There is no doubt without compensation the strike is the flattest at followup shots second in automatic form only to the Laugo Alien. Look more he is triangulating against rise and slighting it to be nothing. Anything with Browning tilt breech action generates front flip. Arsenals travel has the barrel moving rearward only.

[@Stephen-rz6jz]

It’s also about recoil impulse. A gun with a higher bore axis feels a lot different to shoot than a gun with a low bore axis. I think the 320 recoil feels chunky compared to a Glock.

[@ShellShock794]

Lower bore axis is always better, the question is how MUCH better and the answer is almost always "barely"

[@gregtellez6]

Say what you want about his demo. This dude knows his shit and bore axis is an excuse used by people with a bad grip and weak hands 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@OfficiallySmiles]

Exactly!

[@phil2082]

This is a monumentally stupid thing to say. Physics exists. Torque is force times distance. A recoil force at a further distance above bore causes more torque. This is just simple facts. Making the point that "you can control recoil" is monumentally stupid when you lie about physics or about the design of a gun.

[@gregtellez6]

@@phil2082 didn’t say it doesn’t exist. Said it’s an excuse people use while shooting.

[@WeSkatePN]

@@phil2082wtf are you on about 😂 he just tamed that gun easy af with his techniques

[@phil2082]

@@WeSkatePN Yeah, he gripped the gun. No part of that was helped by having a higher height over bore. The point this guy was making was a lie. Physics exists.

[@GUARDIAN.13]

Recoil control can so be achieved with one hand and had been for the first 100 years cartridge pistols were used. Proper recoil control is in the frame of your body that you are supporting the pistol with, that changes depending on how you are holding the pistol.

[@rs2085]

Yeah but the grip angle is different in a 1911. Good point but he is still missing some context

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

No it’s not. There are both 18 degrees.

[@Anonymous8317]

I don’t have one, but I love the idea of the strike one pistol that has probably one of the lowest bore axis that you can get which drives it back into your forearm which combats muzzle flip

[@Hoellewood_Solutions]

My recoil control definitely comes from my shooting hand. I make it a point to frequently practice single hand shooting.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

@@Hoellewood_Solutions Are we talking about one handed shooting? No.

[@a13x333]

Its a 9mm. 320 is already smooth, just because caliber.. love mine ♥️

[@sifulowang]

Strike One -were talking more rise than recoil here and strike has no rise. Recoil is dependant on high bore access as is flip if you were to decide to drop the strong hand out of alignment with bore , it like any EMF will hinge rearward

[@iwrestleabeeonce]

Bro was playing with fire holding it with 2 fingers 😅😂

[@randallboone9375]

Would’ve been funny if the dude chambered a snap cap as the first round and the instructor anticipated the recoil.

[@drew5337]

Been saying this for years even as a very casual shooter. I also put 10k through a P228 before ever shooting a glock or CZ though. Most internet gun debates are between people who never ever shoot 😂

[@GodspeedSuperbeast]

What about if your sig jams once a mag but you shout fine with all other guns?

[@Highgear145]

Some people don't change even when you show them the facts

[@michael7324]

He is truly the Master Sameri. I wish I could train with him.

[@stirlingr.buchanan6570]

It should be noted that the 1911, and for that matter most any legacy hammerfired gun, also feature a heavier metal frame. I find the 1911 and the 226 very pleasant guns to shoot, and likewise enjoy most new poly-frame strikers, but can't say I've ever enjoyed the stock 320's combination of lightweight frame and striker trigger with a hammerfire-style grip. There's a reason they were so quick to introduce a factory weighted frame when few of their competitors in the poly striker market have felt the need.

[@ruckuswethepeep4384]

Thank you!!

[@doomguy8447]

Love my 320. Granted, all three models I own have the "correction" sear to prevent missfire. Still.

[@willardselvey2632]

I have a 1911 45, kimber and I've noticed if you hold it properly it recoils almost straight back with minimal muzzle flip...

[@TheEvanAlmightyy]

Actually, I’ve heard a million times how the 1911 has a high bore axis. It’s not subjective…

[@EL_BEANE_GUY]

Height over bore and combat sights past the 25 yard line makes any adjustments done 10x harder

[@ronniehilljr.1111]

He’s a gun shooting GOD

[@SynergyPod]

And it's not the firing hand?

[@sjaakvaak5439]

Why no double taps? Or better yet the Bill drill?

[@allenperkins5098]

People who make fun of p320s are just glock fanbois who are mad they have sh*t triggers. Fight me.

[@piratecat990]

"Perfection" in so much that they have to change the triggers and sights, immediately. 😂😂😂

[@HazmatFatCat]

I traded my p320 axg for a glock 22 and p229 with zero regrets. I hated that gun.

[@MegaAppleshit]

I think the whole drop safety thing is more important that slightly worse triggers. Then again I am a revolver guy so what do I know.

[@SoWavvyy]

Not really Glock is just guaranteed safe and reliable. I carry a p365 every day and I wouldn’t want a p320 just because of its problems in the past. The p365 (original) mine was made in 2021 so it has the new striker assembly is definitely way safer than the p320

[@JustWanderingAbout]

P320s are dog shit. I shot one as an MP, and carry one as a duty pistol daily. It sucks

[@boedude8496]

bore axis doesnt affect amount of recoil, only it's angle. higher power makes it more noticeable

[@gtcam723]

They’re just bulky. Bore axis was never much of an issue for me. I just couldn’t get past the fact they just always felt unnecessarily bulky. That said, higher bore axis would mean more leverage exerted which translates to more grip strength required to keep it flat 🤷‍♂️ That said, it also leaves out the very real aspect of the recoil system. Not to mention, the main spring forces in a hammer fired pistol. HighPower has that rather stiff mainspring that makes them unpleasant for me to shoot unless they’ve been tuned.

[@user-im9ov9ud7m]

I recoil at the mention of recoil 😸

[@phil2082]

This is a stupid thing to say. Physics exists. Torque is force times distance. A force applied from recoil at a larger distance is literally more torque on the hand. "Look at me death grip this gun" doesn’t change physics.

[@mattmurphy7030]

And the difference between a bore axis of 1” and a bore axis of 1.05” is fucking nothing

[@Aspis_1-0]

Why are all you smoothbrains trying to play the physics card for this demo so damn hard? 😂. What YOU said is a stupid thing to say. No shit physics exist, but it is absolute minutiae that doesn't apply to this demo. If you listened from start to finish you would have picked up on that. He's saying to be aware of the different "camps" of kool aid drinkers on the internet who want you to be religious on certain things that will hinder your growth as a shooter in the long run. I've seen dudes hit that mental plateau thinking bore axis was the excuse to them not improving in accuracy during pistol courses. Unless the bore is entire inches above your hand, the leverage we are talking about can be trained to be handled, but you have to realize that and train it.

[@phil2082]

@mattmurphy7030 Force times distance still means that a gun with a lower bore axis is going to be easier to shoot. There is literally less torque on a gun which has a quarter inch less of height over bore axis, not 1/20th of an inch. As it is 9mm, you can still get a desth grip on it and shoot it.. Which begs the question, why isn't this moron shooting something bigger than 9mm if he can handle the recoil?

[@phil2082]

@Aspis_1-0 You're the smooth brain. The guy's argument is that bore axis height over center of torque doesn't matter, but it literally does. He didn't make the argument "you can easily learn to deal with recoil on a sig 320 despite the height over bore" He said that physics doesn't matter Yet you're dumb enough to ignore literally everything this guy said in the video

[@Aspis_1-0]

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[@PeterRSCFF]

I have this whole high bore axis speech ready but I’ve never shot a P320 before 😂

[@ratmother.actual1294]

Public service announcement: 1. This isnt true. 2. Recoil control has nothing to do with first shot accuracy and he never fired twice, we also never saw the target. 3. Height over bore should be the last thing you worry about when trying to become a better shooter.

[@robertsilveus3071]

I agree with #3. Not so much on #s1&2.

[@ratmother.actual1294]

​@robertsilveus3071 Id love to know more. My reasoning behind 1 was that "height over bore"(more height of bore in this case) does effect recoil, it's a longer lever, even with your support hand. And my reason behind 2. He re-presents after each shot. You don't need recoil control if you only fire once. No one cared about recoil when we had breachloaders.

[@logicsoundinc]

I hear the “high bore axis” dogma from the tactical community, but the competition community doesn’t say a thing about it. My experience shooting Glock, M&P, and now primarily P320s is that what you said is true: It doesn’t matter.

[@Sophisticlesenergy]

A: bore axis is about the height of the barrel over the trigger which in fact effects recoil control B: anyone who tells you recoil control is 0% your firing hand has no idea how to fire one handed C: this clip shows single shots, guaranteed a low bore axis pistol reduces time between shots on target rapid fire D: the term bore axis and its prevalence in the gun world itself shows the significance of the factor when shooting E: I own high and low bore axis guns and shoot proficiently enough to notice a large difference, ESPECIALLY drilling draws, moving, and one handed shooting. F: Just because a guy has shot a bunch, or shoots a couple times using a method does not validate or invalidate that method. ALWAYS train any new weapons or styles before employing them. Low bore axis= easier and faster follow up shots for self defense and rapid fire high bore axis= more natural relaxed shooting angle for long distance shots and moving target single shots Over time the philosophy has moved from shoot one shot as relaxed as possible to shoot as many as you can controlled as possible. Decades of research lead to this, because in fact you will not be relaxed in a life or death encounter. Train as such. 😂 watch overton windex if you buy this guys bs, he will explain actual defense techniques.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

All that talking and still no one will remember your name.

[@skaterboy001]

Overton is a Glock die hard so of course you agree with him

[@ricksanchez1180]

Man never seen combat in his life.

[@PanclarksBrah]

you haven't either

[@ABDLSX]

It absolutely makes a difference.

[@logicsoundinc]

Strange how USPSA GMs don’t seem to have any problems shooting P320s.

[@littlerockstar5729]

Que all of the arm chair experts 😂😂

[@staysafe1096]

There goes my rounds😂

[@Nikolai393]

i mean recoil control comes from both hands. You want as high a grip with your shooting hand has possible and then clamp down with your support hand.

[@isaacmarcucci3777]

People think because a gun has more recoil that means its "uncontrollable" recoil. If you apply proper grip and control recoil doesn't matter. People like to talk crap on hard recoil pistols while ignoring glocks that wont cycle if your grips too loose.

[@Mr.ikwereustay]

Bever tail is to help keep ur side palm of the hand from getting caught in slide

[@quinncoffman3892]

We're those factory loads? Why didn't you double tap? Why didn't you clear and safe the weapon?

[@anthonyyoung6433]

So if recoil control comes from your off hand, what happens when you shoot 1 handed? The gun smack you in the head?

[@chaseday1165]

Bore axis does affect recoil… with follow up shots, ya know after the recoil happens. Taking time to reset between shots doesn’t prove anything. I’m not saying training won’t help mitigate that effect of the high bore axis, but the fact is it does make a noticeable difference.

[@MarlosCartinez]

The way he holds it. If he were to drop it every one around would die

[@zackacyra4435]

Maybe just don’t drop the firearm?

[@Mockturtlesoup1]

Well, yeah, people do say 1911s have a high bore axis. They say that about pretty much all hammer-fired guns. Also, a high bore axis can help, it's just not as important as people think. The 320's grip and trigger also put your trigger finger in a virtually straight line, which is also effective at preventing people from pulling shots, or otherwise not pulling the trigger straight back. Also, yes, the support hand does most of the work when it comes to muzzle rise/recoil management, but the higher your grip is, the more leverage your support hand has. But yeah, its mostly overblown internet bullshit that may be true in certain circumstances, but ends up getting way overblown with new shooters. Just pick a gun, get some training, and start practicing. Once you know more and have more experience, then you can get your "perfect gun."

[@andyrihn1]

My complaint is that they have light but plasticy triggers. They just feel wrong

[@Phantom8589]

Shot the gun with 1 hand! The support hand is secondary and NOT the primary recoil control! It is more stability control and aiming than recoil managment. There is a reason SOCOM uses Glocks!

[@MF-Rell]

Bc they picked it. That's why they use it. They could use a Taurus G3 and it wouldn't matter. You act like it's a stock glock.

[@NotEaGAaPrAAaA]

Facts, shot my 320 today and the muzzle flip is extremely overblown. Yes it does do it but again a sound grip will keep it to a minimum.

[@69Clay420]

My friend has the 320 that is the same size as the Glock 19 and compared to my Glock it’s very noticeable, maybe once you are used to it it isn’t bad but comparatively it is worse.

[@69Clay420]

@@sorenottomybuddy it holds a 15 round mag and has the same 4 inch barrel.

[@69Clay420]

@@sorenottomybuddy not the one my buddy has, I’ve literally held them up side by side, I don’t know what else to tell u buddy😂😂😂 they make 320s in so many different sizes, the fact u are arguing they don’t make a Glock 19 sized one is crazy.

[@Wolfstanus]

Yeah he is right. But a 45acp out of a heavy ass 1911 won't have the same recoil as a light as shid your pants p320 grenade in 9mm with an optic on the top. Lower bore axis is easier to shoot for most people and requires less time to train with and has more consistent followup shots. The biggest issue for most gun owners is time, money and access to a proper range that lets you shoot to train rather than shoot to plink. So a guy who's job is literally training every day is going to have more experience and skill than the average gun owner.

[@dmw3086]

I’ve always thought high bore axis complaints were a little blown out of proportion. For 98% of people who shoot I don’t think it really matters or will notice. I’ve shot glock 19s and hammered fired sigs side by side and relatively quickly and shot both fine. The only time I’ve noticed high bore axis/slide mass to be an issue was a hi point c9.

[@patriotictrendkill9879]

Damn. Never knew, now i gotta throw my CZ Shadow away now that low bore axis does nothing

[@mattmurphy7030]

Because that’s the only thing the shadow has going for it…

[@LuisMata-jm2ec]

I shoot one handed (amputated arm) and have no problem with recoil…. Practice, practice, practice!

[@gunsnwater2668]

Love me some beaver tail.

[@belialofeden]

Was the least favorite gun i ever owned. The trigger pull was almost 7 lbs and the reset was absolutely horrendous.

[@el5495]

Everyone thinks they are a firearms instructor

[@DesertGorilla]

Just about no one knows what they're talking about when you guys are trying to argue against this guy that has more experience and handling then just about all of you. Do some fcking training and test it out and if you follow his instructions and you will see the difference.

[@DesertGorilla]

And for all you experts that are complaining about he wasn't double tapping or shooting quickly there's literally a video of him doing it, if you do some fcking research of him shooting quickly and having that gun flat.

[@eod4usa]

Beaver tail on left and righ side? Its straight back

[@GTA_500]

I always liked the beavertail I always thought it was great.

[@Mikey_Chopps]

Shooting fast and moving where you don’t always have 2 hands on the gun is different. 1911s have a lot more weight to manage the recoils I’ll keep my Glocks and other proper engineered guns. The swappable trigger modules are a gimmick.

[@Alphaforce100]

Frankly nobody gives even half a rats ass about what you’ll keep. Nobody’s trying to sell you anything. You silly glock worshippers do you. Also how is a swappable trigger a gimmick lol?

[@charleskennedy1150]

9mm really out here breakin yall wrists? 😂

[@SuperSneakySniper]

Recoil control isnt effected. But split times are. I just dont know if that has to do with slide height or slide weight. But it is a common complaint among some of the local A and B class USPSA guys, the 320 just comes back onto target slower than other guns. And those guys are FAST AF. Sure, youre in CONTROL, but it doesnt double quite as fast, is what they told me. One of them used to shoot for Sig. Whether this is important outside of competitive circles is debatable. Im sure theyre just splitting hairs. But still. Not gunna say it makes zero difference. Its just a trivial one.

[@bibifromsenegal3617]

Is a high bore axis bad? No. Is a low bore axis better? Yes.

[@user-ev4pb9xj7e]

Yet, here you are on the very same internet 😂😂😂😂😂

[@steelboymi]

Im still keeping my CZ Shadow2

[@sirdelatopher]

😂 everyone says they’re doing research, meaning they’re watching KZbin and reading Reddit. If you’re new to guns and know nothing, you’re still in a better position than people who research online 😂

[@tylerreis7627]

Ah yes, shooting 1 shot. It’s literally physics that a shit ton of moving mass above your hand will impart more torque and has more momentum resulting in a slower return to poa

[@andrewmartin4387]

Features and designs do not replace training and practice

[@joebeard2358]

😂 I mean he's not wrong however only sending one at the paper is not going to help you understand recoil control I would imagine a bill drill would do far more.

[@sokka12298]

This guy skipped physics class

[@SimplerThoughts1975]

Silly bore acid....

[@Puddin127]

GET WAVED ON BOIS HELLLLLLL YEAH

[@rkwjunior2298]

Physics doesnt lie. Yes hes good at handling a pistol. But a low bore axis will bring your hands down closer to the bore and recoil control will be easier Hes just flexing his ability to handle recoil.

[@Aspis_1-0]

Take some classes and compete in some matches before armchair quarterbacking. Look at this short of his, it's more than handling recoil.... kzbin.infonGmmDHSaJT4?si=J3DzpVuQTuKbK92z

[@nonombre7159]

Aint nothin wrong with a 320. Accurate as fuck and 1 of only 2 guns Ive owned that shot everything i put through it and neither of those was a glock.

[@chaos-jp7nt]

❤❤❤ I fired my glock after cleaning failed to eject. Sig fired everything. Lube glock with one drop of sig dry. Glock failed again to eject. My sig fired perfectly again.

[@chaos-jp7nt]

Sig just work.

[@danrugbyman]

A self proclaimed internet expert complaining about self proclaimed internet experts. And a Sig salesman

[@larrybruns5051]

If you listen to the guy, he’s absolutely 100% correct on everything he says. And if you don’t like the 320 then don’t buy it but he’s not saying that the 320 is all that and a bag of chips. Just listen to what he’s saying and , he’s right..

[@Driftingsiax]

If you learn to shoot well; the gun matters less and less. You didn’t miss because of the balance, or the high bore axis, or even the trigger. You missed because you need more training. Now, if you are trying to get 0.003 seconds faster than the other guy? Then yeah, get a custom gun that gives you any edge you can grab, but those guys aren’t in this comment section.

[@DA-pj3or]

That's why i never listen to the you tube experts. My favorite guns in the last 35 years all have high bore axis. HK usp Sig p229

[@leftyo9589]

both hands!!!!

[@Osprey1994]

Not sure why people can't see that the gun barely moves. It's likely very apparent for him the shooter, and it's less apparent for amateur shooters who aren't taking the time to observe the fact the muzzle barely rises before returning. I've shot P320's, Glock's, Smith's, 1911's, 2011's, CZ's, and a ton of other guns thanks to my job. The only gun that I would say has a good amount of SNAP to it, is the PDP, but at the same time the gun is still quick.

[@cjsomething4995]

Didn't they teach to shoot a 1911 with a cupped bottom?

[@goinhot9133]

Let’s see a bill drill at least