Why Your Flower Smells & taste like Hay

Check out our AMAZON LIST & More
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @perfectgardenstv
Check out our Membership Programs
VIP Membership - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
DeTox Membership - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
$2.99 Membership - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
Dropsofbalance - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
Organishield - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
Em1 - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
www.pittmoss.com (Discount code PG10) Retains water and breaks the surface tension of the soil deep not just on the top.
BestFabric Pot to Grow In - www.perfectgardens.com/collec...
LIKE US:
/ perfectgardens100
OUR WEBSITE:
perfectgardens.com/
#organic #soil #cannabis #organicweed #bacteria #seed #led #gardening #organicgarden #legalcannabis #medicalmarijuana #420 #homegrown #cannabiscommunity #perfectgardens
Chapters:
0:00 How To Use DOB?
1:07 Why There's A Hey Smell?
4:19 What Everyone Wants?
4:46 Ideal Temperature & Humidity For Drying & Why?
6:19 Why Not To Trim Early?
8:29 Members Opinion On Hey Smell After Harvest.

[@jeremyschissler337]

chlorophyll is what tastes like grass.....if you let it dry out before it oxidizes, it locks in the grassy flavor......chlorophyll must oxidate before it drys because once it drys it hardens and will not continue to oxidate even when rehydrated. Grassy flavor has very very little to do with the nutrients you are feeding it other than to say this effects ethylene gas production postharvest ......Ethylene is the ripening hormone. Nitrogen gas preserves things and as the nitrogen gas leaves the cannabis it helps to preserve the dry matter, extending shelf life. the Shelf life of cannabis that has high brix sap from additional nutrients in fact stays fresh longer ,,preserving terpene flavors ........SLOW DRYING IS AS IMPORTANT AS PHOTONS WHEN IT COMES TO CANNABIS

[@novicestarrstacker2549]

I love this answer

[@jeremyschissler337]

@@novicestarrstacker2549 keep kickin ass out there like only yeww can boss

[@psyience3213]

This is the answer. It’s all about the initial dry and cure

[@ratslayer6064]

Agreed

[@Wickedstickyflowers]

My bud is killer and smells great after I break the bud but the bag smells blah

[@youngnixx88788]

In my early grow days and overtime I eventually figured out the major reason for a heavy hay smell was either premature plant/harvest or dried too fast. The good news with the latter I found is that the hay smell will eventually dissipate overtime in curing

[@Hunterslife315]

U are 💯 right my friend. Mine where nice and full of crystal and smelled amazing but I mite have cut it too early at 11wks but I'm in nys growing outdoors. So after I hanged I only had a heater and a fan. One day it was really moist the next day was so dry on the outside. I've got what I had sitting in paper bags hoping the smell will leave. It's mostly all dry but the buds smell Hayie. Should I jar up soon and can't I use like orange peels or whatnot?

[@gassedupgrown2413]

Bro I had a branch that snapped off on one plant she looked so frosty had a sweet mango smell that branch broke off on day 43 I trued to dry it in a matter of hours it smelled like hay

[@gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340]

I've found it's really better the slower you can dry. It needs 60 degrees 60 percent humidity and if you overlook these things you can expect hay. Slower, cooler imo.

[@PerfectGardensTV]

I agree 100%

[@charleslyons829]

Okay, for the new folks: There are two stages post harvest. Stage 1 is the drying stage and the directions printed above are right on the spot. Stage 2 is the curing stage. This is the stage the materials go inside a mason jar and are burped to allow for proper development. The total time depends on the farmer, but usually the drying stage takes 12-14 days and the curing stage can go from 14 days to 5-6 months (just depends on you life path). The temperature for curing is the exact same as drying. Most of us keep our materials in the dark during both of the phases, because light destroys materials. If you are impatient, in a rush, or dont follow directions very well, this is the way to learn how to do that if you want to succeed further in life. This will also teach you about human (plants are very closely related to way human interaction should be done) interaction.

[@jaygee3032]

@@PerfectGardensTV what about below 30 Like in a freezer would that work or only for hash not flower

[@kevinisbell1867]

Could also be some strains just don't turn out that good in the end no matter how well you cure. Especially when lots are growing from seeds, seeds are like a box of chocolate u never kno. Then some strains are so strong in their profile its really hard to screw it up. Good weed is like a good wife, when you find that one it's like all others mean nothing to you.

[@whiteowl8703]

I agree but on one point. Seeds. If your getting TRUE BREEDING stock i.e. a stabilized cultivar then you can bet money that there will be great uniformity. Now in todays market we are being flooded with the exact opposite. Say no to to corporate seed breeders. Get back to finding Breeders that stabilize t there seed. I recommend Humboldt Seed Company as a great starting point. 😎

[@408golfman]

Lol.. people that can't grow will blame genetics.. If you can go to the store and buy tomato seeds or any other seeds and they all turn out the same. You think that is magic or weed is some different kinda plant? No just stabilization of the seed and good breeding.. Stop with the box of chocolates.. just say you grow bag seed.. hybrid tomatoes will give you different plant, just like apples.. stop with disinformation if you just don't know anything bud

[@drevil3606]

Until she gets boring lol and you need a bit of fresh excitement 😃😃😃

[@NinjaRastaMon]

Good timing on this topic. Gotta make sure you time out your nutrients and don't over water the last few weeks, slow 10+ day dry and proper burped cure of at least 3 weeks, the longer the better

[@PerfectGardensTV]

Ty for the comment bro. I love this membership thing it bring your old questions and comments to the surface:)

[@MorningLoud760]

This is such a good conversation! For me its definitely happened when drying too fast.

[@ntroxell83]

That's why theses cultivators are freeze drying with cold dryers n the dispensary bud lasts over a year n stays green to now mine starts to brown after 6 months n jar n I use dark jars to keep light out to but maybe a vacuum jar sealer would remove the oxygen

[@bryetube86]

In my bit of experience I’ve found that if your temps and humidity are off during the dry process that’s what’s gives you hay smell especially if temps are above 65 🤘

[@Defender_of_Faith]

Would you recommend triming before you cure?

[@bryetube86]

@@Defender_of_Faith no I would not. I never wet trim. But that’s me and my personal preference

[@Defender_of_Faith]

@@bryetube86 appreciate the advice. So. Dry,cure, trim. Thanks

[@growjaysimpson4646]

@@Defender_of_Faith you trim before u cure. He didn't understand your question. You dry, trim then cure

[@layneupcott6089]

We should be drying our buds for at least 15 days but 21 is the mark to try and hit. 60 degrees 60% humidity for 16 days is a good rule of thumb …. That hay smell comes from the buds drying out to quickly and losing most of the terpenes ( essential oils) it also allows the chlorophyll to be left behind in the leafs…. Slower is better with drying and curing is not as important as people think IF the drying process is done properly.

[@PerfectGardensTV]

agreed

[@ericwid]

Right on bro. 60/60 rule always,👍

[@ericwid]

I've heard that actually anything over 80f and your terps start to evaporate

[@johngarvin8888]

Curing brings out the funk!!!

[@layneupcott6089]

Curing with the leafs on ?!?!? Fan leafs or sugar leafs ? I’m definitely going to be trying this out to see what’s up .., sounds really interesting

[@caseyjones7404]

After the initial chop and hang for at least 8 days, branches were hung inside a wine chiller at 60* for about 10 days. The buds stay very green and fresh, turned dense, hard and very sticky. After fine trimming and putting in jars with humida packs, its the only way I will ever cure again.

[@airsoftsniper9191]

I struggle keeping stable temp and humidity during dry and thinking of getting a wine cooler aswell to help me out. Do you have any tips? You place a small fan in the wine cooler? And if I understand correctly you first dried for 8 days in a room/ tent and only after those 8 days you placed it in the wine cooler? Were the flowers already dry after 8 days or in between dry and wet?

[@davidbukhari8785]

Dried too quickly, but not quite enough. Then stored without air circulation too soon. Similar to hay being 3/4 dry in sun on the ground then baled and sweated... Imo

[@conspiracylibrary2848]

if you have a hay smell its bc u didnt hang it to dry long enough. break the branch to hear the snap. Then its ready. Leave all your leafs on while drying. Works for me.

[@thomasrodriguez9864]

The hang dry and curing is extremely important. I’ve noticed the leaf causes a few problems that I had always overlooked.

[@gratitude2054]

it's not, it's just hype, you all follow and that's ok because money does this to us, makes you scared to try different things. look at drying and curing for other volatile terpenes, nobody knows, if we are at a difference we are seeing different things, I say take it to the cup lol

[@richardvogel1195]

I hang plants until the stems starts to get brittle then do final trim. At that point it has the hay smell then I put it in ziploc bags over night and it gets wet again then I take it out and let it dry more and do this process over as many times as needed takes around 2 to 2.5 weeks. After that no more hay smell

[@brandonemon5577]

I noticed if I harvest too early after the last watering, I will get the hay smell. Allowing the soil to dry out but not allowing the root ball to dry out is the perfect time to harvest, IMO. I think what is happening is by allowing the plant to transpire a majority of its water content prior to harvest, when the initial drying begins, the plant loses fewer terpines through evaporation being there is less water to evaporate.

[@thenextgen1able]

I've read this once before in a facebook group. I thought letting it dry out would make it dry too fast and get the hay smell. I'll have to try it out.

[@brandonemon5577]

Once I hang it though, I dry at 65degrees and 60RH

[@joe8105]

That totally makes sense

[@smokey-qq6hd]

Has nothing to do with tit. It's a equal Part mix of genetics quality , grower ability , and drying conditions,if u, fuck up one process and you will have hay.

[@norskibull2.021]

Here’s a big loving nugget of wisdom that’s been used for probably thousands of years, HARVEST ON THE FULL MOON, another little nugget to try, harve right before sunrise. The moon is pulling out ALL the goodness that the girl is hiding in the soil, and shedding all her powers into the flower, unlike when it’s during a waning period, when most her energies are going into the root system. Full moon= full peck production, plucking during waxing isn’t the worst thing but it’s best to plant or start seeds, especially during New Moon and onward. In the gardening veggie world, you plant ROOT veggies during the Waning period aka After full moon, days after that is…. Peace Growmies

[@larryb883]

I think this guy is brilliant. And off the top of his head too!

[@PerfectGardensTV]

Ty bro

[@thenextgen1able]

My thoughts on the topic are from a newer grower's perspective. I've grown for about a year and I am currently waiting for my third grow to near harvest. I used GH flora trio for my first grow, switched to veg+bloom by hydroponic research for the second grow, and now using their VBX formula for my third. There is a fourth 'micro' grow I did during the second and third with some organic soil but I've noticed the dry/cure to be the same between the two. My second harvest had a slight hay smell and the first, third, and the 'micro' organic grow all didn't have a hay smell. I believe the smell comes from a combination of sources. It typically starts off as a grassy smell just after chop. It develops into a hay smell as it dries more. This is the same with real hay, it's just overgrown grass, so when it's cut it gets the same grassy smell, and turns into it's own hay smell over time. When the chlorophyll degrades and breaks down it has to off-gas with the remaining moisture in the plant. If the moisture off-gasses before all the chlorophyll has broken down you'll be stuck with a hay smell. The only harvest I've had smell like hay, dried in almost 5-6 days. All my other harvests that have smelled great dried in a much longer timeframe, nearly 14-18 days. When you slow down the off-gassing of moisture you allow the chlorophyll to leave the buds with the moisture. I believe it also has to do with the over fertilization of cal/mag(mainly magnesium.) Without the excess magnesium there'd be less chlorophyll being able to be produced. I don't believe it to be the Nitrogen in particular, as there are industries, cannabis included, that use nitrogen to keep their product "fresh" and I've not once had a hay smell from a nitrogen packed jar. So to recap, I believe it to be over-fertilization of magnesium, and drying too rapidly. If you can push the dry time out to 14-18 days, with ~%10 moisture remaining in the branches, it's ready to go into a terploc bag and never be touched again until ready to smoke.

[@playloud8069]

Great analysis & info! Big up! :)

[@jeremyschissler337]

@@playloud8069 chlorophyll is what tastes like grass.....if you let it dry out before it oxidizes, it locks in the grassy flavor......chlorophyll must oxidate before it drys because once it drys it hardens and will not continue to oxidate even when rehydrated. Grassy flavor has very very little to do with the nutrients you are feeding it other than to say this effects ethylene gas production postharvest ......Ethylene is the ripening hormone. Nitrogen gas preserves things and as the nitrogen gas leaves the cannabis it helps to preserve the dry matter, extending shelf life. the Shelf life of cannabis that has high brix sap from additional nutrients in fact stays fresh longer ,,preserving terpene flavors ........SLOW DRYING IS AS IMPORTANT AS PHOTONS WHEN IT COMES TO CANNABIS

[@gratitude2054]

closer than what they are saying, but drying fast at the start or slow ...good luck if you can tell a difference, only difference is fast dry at the start stops a lot of problems if you don't have great regulation with the environment you will have serious problems, amongst a few friends we have 5 ways to cure all good all different tastes, have fun with it.

[@Allknowingkeith]

Brilliant. 14-18 days is the goal. Thanks!

[@sirsmilealot5458]

Sounds reasonable, my friend. 🌞

[@Hartlor_Tayley]

Really great info about fermentation etc. thanks.

[@mrgreenthumb91]

FREE SEEDS TO ALL NEW SUBSCRIBERS SHOW SOME LOVE THANK YOU .....

[@PurpleUniverse420]

Very informative!!! Thanks for this awesome content !!

[@uncle_creepy2743]

I'm at 70 degrees and 65 humidity because that's what I want the humidity of the dried flower to be, and temp because it's as cold as my basement gets without refrigeration. And I agree strain ,environmental damage and fast dry can all cause that hay smell. Imo

[@25Patman]

From experience I would say for sure drying to fast( not paying attention to RH levels in your room ) is the main culprit. I actually made a drying chamber out of a 2 shelf on wheels using thick black plastic and an newer humidifier. I now dry for at least 7 days and omg what a difference it makes. I set the humidifier at 60% and roll the chamber into my coolest area in the house and let it go. F'ing fantastic results now. Huge differnce.

[@25Patman]

Its a wire rack shelf using the top and bottom shelfs. I lined the inside with thick dark plastic sheeting. Made a floor kinda like a grow tent has, just in case of water leak from the humidifier. I used 1 usb fan blowing down from one corner and have the humidifier in the other corner. I can actually hang the plants using a small string and a clip and slide them around or switch things positions quickly from outside to in, etc. Its working fantastic. Like I said I just roll the thing to the coolest part of the house/apt. Its super effiecient and doesnt even really need looked after. Let it go a week and come back. Oh, I have a second usb fan on the bottom blowing from the fan side towards the humidifier. Creating a loop of air.

[@25Patman]

A very gentle loop of air.

[@sirsmilealot5458]

Hell yeah!

[@RebuildandRenovate]

Yo brotha might wanna change title & thumbnail to "Hay" 🙏

[@mightymite3958]

I found that trimming before curring makes the hay smell prominent , so I only cut big water leaves couple weeks or so before harvest then leave everything else and cure in paper bags

[@goldmemberr]

Exactly.

[@mrgreenthumb91]

FREE SEEDS TO ALL NEW SUBSCRIBERS SHOW SOME LOVE THANK YOU ...

[@getlit8188]

I dry my Herb in my grow tent should I leave my inline fan on or doesn't even matter as long as I have a fan that's circulating around the tent not hitting the buds. I heard if you leave the inline fan on it pulls out terpenes is that true

[@knowme9471]

Just wanted to add in my experience when using a mechanical/bowl trimmer. the hay smell is more prevalent. when hand trimming a more pleasant potent smell is had.

[@jimmiewomble416]

Here in west Tennessee in the 80's, there was a good percentage of poor quality smoke. The Mexican and Columbian was often the best to be found. As the 90s began, we started getting bud that was grown in the hills and mountains of East Tennessee and Kentucky. A world of difference. One year we were smoking 2 or 3 percent thc bud. When October arrived, so did some really potent, sweet, beautiful chunky buds from east Tennessee, with names like comatose, zombie, you get the idea. Pushing 15%+ thc.

[@braddrickboone3730]

Facts

[@129gribbz]

Hunters paradise was known for that stank lmao

[@sirsmilealot5458]

Us mountain boys can grow us some cannabis stuff. 🌞👍

[@peppertime1]

I don’t know if i got the point on that perticular post but thanks buddy. I really like your channel.

[@CannabisGarden]

I suspect hay smell comes from putting the buds into an anaerobic environment while there's still too much moisture left inside the buds

[@clmnyng]

several new posts today on the exact thing im wondering about from my first plant this week. wwwiiiieeerdd

[@simonmaverick9201]

Placing the plant to be dried into a sealed container of silica gel is fantastic for a fast dry.

[@Probleme5]

How much can be done this way? more than an oz. or smaller batches? Do you still test the branches to see if they dry enough?

[@nicholassolomonson8349]

Don't over dry or dry too fast or u get hay. Don't jar too early. Make sure sticks snap before jarring or you get hay.

[@doktorhunggari4415]

Some say chlorophyll takes time to break down before it dries completely. 60f-60rH 7-10 days recommended. To hot and terpines will evaporate. Air that is dry will cause hay taste boof. 55%-60% moisture content for jar storage.🙏🔑✌️

[@GrowDaddyTV]

I have never harvested to early and I grow organic. Over-drying is why!!!!

[@jonathanaliff6121]

I can't claim perfect conditions. Always dark, my temps and humidity swung back and forth, but never higher or lower than the "limits". My dry room went from reeking my entire house with skunky diesel to smelling like a barn. I'm in hell.

[@Arcturian1111]

The hay smell will be gone once it's cured properly. I had this issue. Proper Curing is key.

[@a.e.4032]

I usually do 60° and 60% for about 10 days. Seems to get a perfect dry everytime.

[@bennybenz.]

Yes I've heard the same and try to mimic my environment just like it when harvesting. I dont have alot of options for where to hang dry my bud so I just use the flowering closet with the door cracked a bit with a fan going on low outside of the closet as I found if you put it on the floor In the closet with it, it drys out to fast. Now this may be true(about fan) for a bigger grow but my closest only like 3×3×6 so no need for the fan in that small area(and never point directly at your herb). So I have learned to just crack the closet door a little and turn on the ceiling fan in my room with a cool mist humidifier going and keep humidity around 60-62% as the temp is a little warmer 65-70° in the house and if I could would put it in a much cooler spot if possible but I always close the vents from the heat running in the house and try and always crack a window as that fresh air coming in and out helps out alot too..!!! Just my humble way of dry/curing at the moment but still dialing it in as it's an art form in itself. Now when there ready to be bucked off and put into plastic totes, paper sacks, turkey bags, cardboard box what have you this is when I find it the hardest! Do I put in totes first then Turkey bags then jar em. Or put into paper sacks then turkey bags then jars.....its all a guessing game really unless you have ALOT of experience harvesting! So what I'm doing from here on out is getting those damn small hygrometers to put in jars or bags with the buds so I know exactly what the humidity is and if they need to be left out or jarred up! Also a must when you get to the jarring stage or atleast for me is getting those boveda humidity packs or wherever you want to get em frm! Happy Growing everyone!!!

[@doktorhunggari4415]

Your buds will retain the ambient moisture (rH) in the environment they’re in. Don’t overthink this. Those moisture packs can pass toxins into your medicine. Beware! As far as warmer curing temps there are no shortcuts dude! More humidity (>60rh) is an environment for mildew/ mold. Temps above 68f will degrade terpenoids during the “cure”. Curing isn’t just drying, it is stabilizing the metabolites you have just invested 100 plus days cultivating. It isn’t rocket science or a secret. If it costs money there is a scam a foot. Patience is the correct cure for the dank…🙏🔑✌️

[@a.e.4032]

Yeah its not a scheduled thing, i agree. I may dip below the 60% a lil n drop in temp a lil but i dont go over 60 n 60. And 10 days could be 8 or 9 or 12 n 13. I was giving general info on what works best for me. I also do not use any of those humidity paccs in my curing process for that same reason. Thanx for saying that as well. 👍

[@ericwid]

That's it 👍. FTBO

[@nealroy7343]

I had one of my grows go great until i started drying. While it was drying I didn't have the humidity in check, i had a heater because it was winter. This led to the flower drying too quickly. I lost almost all the terpenes and great smell.

[@danieljackson4266]

Similar to me. My first and only grow smelled incredible, looked awesome under the scope and was super sticky. I had a problem keeping humidity up because I had to dry in the basement where the furnace is. I couldn't keep humidity levels above 30% and the flower dried way too fast, even after washing. The bud was a little crispy after about 6 days hanging and I put it in jars to seal and burp. Surprisingly, I got the tell tale ammonia smell that indicates mold. I ended up tossing about 1/4 lb of flower, maybe smoked 2 joints. It smelled like hay when it got dry. Too warm, too low humidity. Still not sure what the work around is, tbh.

[@trueblu8]

@@danieljackson4266 Rubbermaid tubs can slow down the dry process. I had an environment similar to yours. Cold basement, furnace running, added a humidifier way too late. Impossible to keep humidity up in an open air cold basement. Guys at the hydroponic shop said to put the bud in Rubbermaid tubs. You could put a damp paper towel in there as well if necessary to reintroduce moisture to the buds. Check on it a couple times a day and let it air out as necessary till the buds are ready for trimming and jarring.

[@TheShleafHerder]

Hey brother, I typically enjoy and absorb your content but this episode is a bit hard to follow. Maybe not structured enough or possibly smoked too much prior? Either way great information👌 I just had to replay a few parts to catch back up, kinda need to jump around to hear all relevant info in the proper order. Thanks for the drop 💧 I love the nute def posts as well keep it coming 👍

[@braddream77771234]

Nothing can help you... it is known 🤔

[@1snaj]

Just watch the video again… everything they said kind of makes sense…

[@scottwood1953]

Drying to fast locks in the hay smell. It needs time to off gas in the drying process to. 60/60 is well excepted parameters.

[@1976ondy]

When flowers get expose a lot to light all the time while drying they will loose smell and stickiness.

[@curlytoes4438]

so much good information for sure.

[@AE-lk3uc]

60% Humidity 60 Degrees for 14- 16 Days Hang Dry. Then off to the jars or Grove Bags for cure. I pay attention to when the smaller stems crack then i know im getting really close to the end of a full dry cycle.

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

At 9:05 cheers buddy I got a volcano too! I love It it's fantastic changed my life!

[@ntroxell83]

Love the topic I have issues smoking my own meds it never tastes as great at the dispensary cannabis n so I smoke it but I mix it with dispensary bud I grind it together when I smoke so dnt waste what I grow ir I turn it to hash

[@PerfectGardensTV]

the membership group could really help you out

[@Heyron420]

Question: I had some serious ph issues during veg. I've corrected the problem with most of the plants and began to flower. I'm 16 days in. Two of my plants maybe too far gone to correct the issues. Would you keep the two problem plants in flower and try to work it out? Or cut em down and get rid of them? Worried about pests and flower seeding from stress. Thanks!! 8 total plants.

[@robertthegrowguy7115]

If they are still stressed your likely to have a hermie issue if not fixed prior to budding them out personal experiences live n learn brother

[@Heyron420]

@@robertthegrowguy7115 yeah, that's what my gut is saying. Thank you appreciate it.

[@robertthegrowguy7115]

@@Heyron420 welcome brother

[@Heyron420]

@@robertthegrowguy7115 Thank you. Good to be here.

[@charleslyons829]

Late, but is this happens again: Option 1, cut clones from the plant before destroying. Option two: learn EC and ppm-flush your plant and fix it. Plants are VERY strong and can come back from some serious problems. Wait until the plant comes back to health and then flip it. It does not have to sit under the same lights as your ladies you are flipping. A CFL is enough to be able to seperate her and fix her while the others are being flipped (if you are using a 1 tent system).

[@306choicegenetics4]

Hay comes from the moisture content in your bud that was in the cure process probably placed in a jar to early

[@jxk7712]

Question; if you expose your first cut to daylight will that eat or digest or process the chlorophyll?

[@claytonwason3488]

Does temperature at night make a difference I know like a Maple tree all the nutrients dropped and the sun brings it up with that help the plant or make any difference reference In the quality of the end product

[@toordog1753]

Drying during the cure process causes the hey smell. Slowly bring it down to minimum humidity with as few leaves as possible but still enough to prolong the dry, its something you have to get used to. Too manybleaves slows the dry too much and starts the cure too early while too few leaves allow it tobdry too quickly and the cure starts too early. Drying doesn't mean curing.

[@ntroxell83]

I always let my plant fade n make sure it uses up all the nutrients n the medium n plant n leaves n I heard letting a plant dry out n starve gir water in-between watering it causes the plant to go into protection mode n creates more trichomes to protect itself

[@PerfectGardensTV]

it does

[@wokxngel2312]

facts one of my branches snapped while lst and that the 2 nodes on the branch started drying out and became sticky just by poking it with my finger

[@bryanchambers7227]

I'm I the only one watching this on a phone and cannot read any of the little pop up images he pulls up on the computer screen

[@Vagrowmie]

I don't think it has anything to do with nutrients, or chlorophyll. Well actually it does, but it is more about the metabolic process that goes on during this process. It is all about properly curing, drying and storing your bud.

[@canadianbacon7131]

You are totally right during the video I'm French Canadian so I had trouble to express myself. You put it is exactly what I meant to say thank you my friend

[@trueblu8]

💯

[@trueblu8]

I smelled a buttery popcorn gassy fart smell during the metabolic process. Is this ethylene gas given off by the plants? Is this normal?

[@trapninja6683]

Great video, just in time for harvest

[@danedwards9031]

good answers, i got a buddy uses miricle grow nutes, his weed taste like hay everytime.

[@robertthrem3382]

I dry about 70 degrees for 2 days then trim and dry on screen and bag them as they dry other wise they will stink like leaf and the small buds get over dried

[@chadt7482]

What about if you get the hay smell in the first few days of hang drying the plant . My temp is sitting at between 65 and 70 depending on my light schedule for my other tents . Humidity inside the tent was between 55 and 60 but spiked one day to 67 % when it rained really hard for 2 days . I got that hay smell after the spike . Any thoughts ?

[@radseed9802]

Air circulation

[@scottmichaels1764]

I would add that 67% RH at 70F is very humid. Lower your temps.

[@NEKingdom241]

I use a Cannatrol Cool Cure Box. Best method ever for drying cannabis.

[@burtmount4308]

could the room being lit up and dark but night would that make it hay. I'm color blind so i usually let it go 5 days after the day is shows on the pack. so far being close to the 60 60 jars and groove bags and still hay any ideas atm under a 400 watt bloom plus watered from the bottom with aci water base with real growers grow dots just tap non ph'd old vid so idk

[@PerfectGardensTV]

Sorry it took so long reply Check out this video Ty for your support kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIGop6ecd9Wqebs

[@gratitude2054]

You should check this out some more, try this get 1 bud put it under glass for 2 or 3 hrs in full sunlight to remove chlorophyll, 3/4 dry then put it in your sock draw for a week, just try it it's 1 bud lol

[@Bluntedco.]

if you are growing and just washing to do bubble hash do you also have this hay smell or no because you washed off the heads so you are safe?

[@badeugenecops4741]

You are safe. Hash smells like hash :)

[@NamNguyen-xr3ho]

What is the "cocoon process"? I just jump into why not to trim early and dont know. Thanks

[@ratslayer6064]

If you leave the leaves on it, besides the big fan leaves, it will slow down the drying process..10-14 days is optimal

[@g35-joe]

Can someone please help me out im currently drying my cereal milk auto inside my grow tent it's at 72°F and 60%rh, I cut the plant and branches and have them hanging on hangers, I'm currently on day #13 of drying and I'm smelling a bit of hay from some of the buds, the smaller lower buds smell and taste like straight wet grass and still feel damp but the main tops which are lower since they're hanging upsidedown smell super sweet and fruity what's going on?

[@g35-joe]

Also the bigger stems are starting to all snap but all the small stems that connect to them still bend and don't snap at all

[@BraeBrae26]

how about sugar, if it lacking in flavor and smell could he have increased sugar in an organic micro based grow?

[@ntroxell83]

I have dried bud fast n slow n fast I get hay smell but I've also n beginning I've Jarred to early n then had the buds sweat n then they smell like hay n moldy I had to dump buds out of jar n redry

[@keithsaunders2532]

I don't flush my plants before harvest. And I wet trim all the big fan leaves before I hang it. I'm all organic other than some CalMag. Then finish trim and jar it up. "Burp Lids" work pretty well for small quantities like I grow. The pump creates a vacuum and extracts the oxygen. Had an old friend , RIP, that gave his jars a spurt of nitrogen after burping and then resealed. There actually is some distillation going on with the sugars. That's why long periods for curing offer better flavor. Kinda like aging bourbon. The longer in the barrel under controlled conditions, the better. Great channel. Keep it up.

[@jasonosborne8258]

I have been curing for 5 weeks and have put 62% humidity packs in them. I can not get my RH below 67%?

[@kevinisbell1867]

Pull buds out and let air dry a couple hours.

[@diontaejgayle]

Yo I got 2 ounce of amnesia it looks well produced but don’t have that skunky smell what can I do to make it have that skunky smell

[@tylerlidster71]

Possible if when U chop it affect it too like whether U cut during lights on period or , me I do 24hr dark before and after flower find helps onset the buds and at end gives extra dark for plant to expell any extra moisture and food ECT ....has made smell more or atleast I think it does 😂😂😂😂

[@glockasauruswrex6362]

According to Dr, Bruce, chloroform has a half life of 2 days...so the slow cure gives the plant time to reduce the chloroform. He also says its critical that the buds are dried enough to kill the microbes in the buds n thats why if you jar them to early they get funky. Seemed like my plants go through a HAY smell phase early in the drying process but that fades as time goes on. I shoot for 60*/ 60% rh in my dry room. Seems to work fine.

[@fattymcbastard6536]

Chloro _what?_

[@badeugenecops4741]

@@fattymcbastard6536 PHYL!

[@badeugenecops4741]

I had a buddy named: Fat Fatty McFat Fat. Family?

[@mikehancho1613]

Brooooo It hit me who you remind me of. Brandon St. Randy! 😆 🤣 😂

[@arcellmcgowan1517]

No cap 🧢 cause this jar in front of me the buds are brown and dry and of course followed by the hay😩🥲. Smelled awesome day 1 now all hay. I started my harvest because the stem cracked and buds popped off….. but my dehumidifier was right next to my dry tent it being 7 days drying I assumed she was good to go but…you know the end of the story. We live and learn💯😩😩

[@ast-og-losta]

I can't get the temps lower than 73F at 53% humidity. Will this be ok?

[@PerfectGardensTV]

Yes 100%

[@ast-og-losta]

@@PerfectGardensTV It dried in three days. I was hoping for a longer drying phase. Its in the jars now.

[@ronkepner943]

Yes, let the plant cure slow and on the cooler side, and the chlorofill will go away with the hey smell.

[@normanherbert3449]

Cure 60/60 rule, 2 to 3 weeks depending upon density of flower,

[@tylerlidster71]

Have had this issue this harvest I picked a tad early I think due to another female plant went and grew a set of nuts down low and didn't notice untill they had opened 😂 ruined my new girls 😂 and got one my ones in 7th week 😂 stupidly pulled her to avoid seeds 😂 and it smells like hay also may of had a nitrogen overdose week 5 to 6- 7 ish and a few 30°c days , also I picked it during photo time I think I'll start cutting em down atleast a few hours into its final lights off ...or maybe try the 48hr darkness ....and just incase U wanna know I fixed the hay smell in cure jar by adding blackberry cold water infusion tea bags ☺️ smells the bomb now 😂😂😂

[@prestontingley8914]

I’ve heard 60/60 period. Above 62% and mold, above 68F and terps evaporate. Below 56-57% and dries too fast, harsher burn.

[@billymay6461]

I think it’s drying too fast and putting it into jars when it’s not dry enough

[@TheStp77]

Wanna get rid of that hay smell 1 air tight 5 gallon pail 2 one way air valves Air pump Timer Drill 2 1/4”holes one at the bottom one in the top, pass the air line in the holes, install both one way air valves so the pump can push air in the bottom and it can escape through the top, timer on for 15 mins every 6 hours, keep it in a cool place with a humidity of around 60%, check at 7 days, if your room is at a constant 60% you can do this as long as it takes to get the desired smell/taste. Hope this helps

[@landonjordan686]

Question.. what if the drying temp is around 70ish with humidity at 60?

[@landonjordan686]

Anybody?

[@samfisherskiller]

@@landonjordan686 how's that premium question lol

[@PerfectGardensTV]

it will just adjust the time of curing

[@ntroxell83]

So I found if u let ur cannabis dry out all the way over a period from 10 to 14 days . Ny opinion on hey snellb7s there's still lil moisture left n flower

[@GrowMyownRights]

Cure too fast or not long enough (a lot of foliage) you'll most likely will have the Hey..If that's cured at a 'regular rate' or if its acclimates too quickly (62%) the Hey will be locked in. Less burping may help. Straight water last wk& cut the extra foliage!

[@PerfectGardensTV]

Have you ever used drops a balance or BAM? I would highly recommend them for dry amendment or liquid feed systems will make a huge difference in your finished product Check out some of the reviews as well www.perfectgardens.com/products/drops-of-balance-2-oz-solution?variant=46946143961386 www.perfectgardens.com/products/16oz-bam%C2%AE-microbial-inoculant-concentrate?variant=47024278831402

[@Smugnug]

Its nitrogen. Just let the process happen, if I smell the terps to early I worry. The smell evolves and thats the true appreciation.

[@robcharters2645]

As a tobacco grower as well as a weed grower,I can tell you it is ammonia you are smelling,and tasting,it's all in your drying and curing process,but there is a fix to at least get the taste away,I use this with my tobacco,sugar wash your buds after drying,50/50 sugar and hot water ,soak overnight and dry again

[@charleslyons829]

Hello Rob, can you further explain this. Some of us are not born farmers and are city folk.

[@robcharters2645]

@@charleslyons829 lol well plants need to ferment if you want good taste,ever leave a pile of cut grass in the sun for a few days in the summer ?it starts giving of heat and smelling sweet ? Turning lawn clippings into sweet grass ? Same thing can be done with tobacco and canibis,it's basically ammonia and starches breaking down,being replaced by sugars,add 50\50 sugar wash,mist it or dip for budds to increase the rate of breakdown

[@charleslyons829]

@@robcharters2645 Thank you

[@razzclat]

how would you dry the weed in the sun ,any tips?

[@robertthrem3382]

Don’t water it three days Before harvest last two weeks use 4200 CMH use UVB the last week 10 minutes five times a day Than water the last day Cut all the leaves of that you can especially ones that have purple stems

[@johnjeffery6638]

Salt build ups that haven't been fllushed adequetly is a harshening factor in smoke, let alone smell. You want to slow the dry after about 4 or 5 days of hanging ventilated. This be done by putting in a looselly rolled up acid -free brown paper bag for another 7 days, moving them arpund once a day in a cool dark place with some ventilation but not heavy fans by any stretch like the first 4 or 5 of hanimg it on the dark.

[@jasonosborne8258]

I have the hay smell on a few buds, that didn’t completely dry. I found if I squeeze the bud the terps. I trimmed just a little more and the smell was there.

[@marken8888]

but there will always be some sort of haysmell right after a couple days drying, right? and that goes away after 12-15 days?

[@PerfectGardensTV]

No if you do it right there shouldn't be a hay smell. Even up to a year later

[@boba3369]

Besides the smell does it actually change anything else

[@lauralou5319]

What about hay smell while growing

[@popeyedave8253]

My Experience are several things can cause it. Not letting your plants fade out enough and leaving too much chlorophyll. Drying too fast and/or drying at too high temps. Also frying your plant will kill the terps so if using synthetics don't over feed I use Mills and get great flavor using a light feeding schedule. Wet trimming will also lose terps its best to leave the fan and sucker leaves on while drying. I may have missed a few things but all of those definitely contribute to bad taste and smell in your herbs.

[@jerseyrider4369]

I always thought less dense flowers are due to harvesting too late.Hey smell from over dry flowers before curing.

[@kevinisbell1867]

I think the biggest factor in density is genetics. If grown fluffy stuff in the same way I grew rocks you could put a window out with.

[@chrisbarrier6839]

Strain and patience is key don't harvest to early wait

[@alphaomega8373]

Hot and dry will do it 80% of the time. But some skunky and gas strains just always a just dang.

[@scottschattner4584]

14 day dry in a box. Fan inside the box, not blowing on the colas.

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

100% drying too fast. Slower dry in higher humidity allows adequate time for chlorophyll to degrade. Longer slower drying period prevents the Hay.

[@travisowens9735]

So what can a person who lives in southern Arizona do when he has to grow outside and dry outside? My last plant was snapping dry in 2or 3 days! It's still curing in jars and still smells like hay after a month.

[@JustMe-fz7xn]

No closet or room for a apparel moving box (about 3 x 3 x 4). You have to get it to dry for about 2 weeks to really work the hay out. I use a closet and a humidifier set to 65% for 2 weeks. I hear water cure sucks, but not as much as what you just experienced. So maybe if all else fails water cure it. But it supposedly kills the taste, but no taste is better than hay.

[@travisowens9735]

@@JustMe-fz7xn thank

[@travisowens9735]

@@JustMe-fz7xn what I am going to try is a 6'x3'x3' plastic double walled tote storage container I found here on the property and have permission to turn into a drying thing. It's almost the size of a lay down freezer except I stood it on end and have fishing lines ran across the top inside to hang from. I have it on the 'shadyside of the house and I was told worse case scenario to put a bowl inside it and keep a damp rag in it. Cave man style I guess to slow down the dry. I am sure I come off sounding poor and ignorant. One is true temporarily thanks to covid but I don't know how to keep it from being too warm inside it. Zero place to hang in doors. We went from 117 to monsoon season and bud rot to bugs from hell and I made it through....so far. She's coming down Monday. It's a dark place, I'm gonna try to hold some humidity here in the desert outside, but yesterday was only 80 fish. Thanks for the information. Don't dry too fast and don't hurry the cure?

[@travisowens9735]

@@JustMe-fz7xn and yeah, hay sucks!

[@musicalADD_theband]

I think it’s early harvest too

[@50StichesSteel]

SOmeone please help...I'm currently dealing with this now..I'm almost positive it wasn't an early harvest problem..My trichomes were starting to get some amber, ones that weren't were milky and I'm on a grow since early June...I did trim the fan leaves off before hanging and started out hanging them in a dark closet...Smell was still amazing...In fact it started to stink my whole house up so I had to put the harvest back in my grow tent with 1 more plant that was still growing to try and control the smell. the humidty in my tent hovers between 45% and 53% with lights on at 78 F...after 2 days of hanging in the tent the hay smell started...Well now that I don't have to worry about odor in the house they went back closet but I'm bummed out that the beautiful smell is gone..This plant had massive buds for a small autoflower and I ended up with a pound and a half wet after the fan leaf trim...Is there anyway to save it? and what should I change to keep it from happening to my last plant I have growing? The yield isn't as big, but the smell is even better and its covered in frosty trichomes. I just wanna have some quality product to show and give friends and family after 6 months of tender love and care....I do feel a bit better about the 2nd plant because now I can use my grow tent specifically just for drying instead of having to have lights on for 12 and not being able to dial in the environment perfectly...Whats most important? Humidity level or tempertaure? Or is it can't have one without the other? I would appreciate any help from the OG's out there.

[@JustMe-fz7xn]

Lights kill your potency after the plant is no longer living. You can't dry in the bright grow lights or warm. Most important is 2 weeks to get to dry and dark. You need to dry in a closet or cardboard box, something dark. And humidity much over 65% in the 70s risks mold. And mine set at 65 seems to keep it closer to 60 anyway. But I don't think you can get a good result in your grow tent, unless maybe in a cardboard box.

[@andrewclarke4774]

Airflow was problem. N it needed fresh air I think.

[@50StichesSteel]

@@JustMe-fz7xn well on the 2nd go around I can have the lights off and adjust humidity and temperature with an intake fan and humidfier.

[@50StichesSteel]

@@andrewclarke4774 It was hung on the top of the tent away from direct light of the LEDs but still bright inside..Airflow had a small oscilating fan at bottom and an intake fan with filter at top to blow out the hot stale air....Is it best to keep tent open when drying? or zipped up?

[@wokxngel2312]

you’re supposed to dry in a completely dark room with temps around 60 F and humidity in the 40-50% the slower you dry and cure the better the quality of your harvest. Patience is key

[@RotationFSX]

For zero Hay smell, investigate the fridge drying method in brown bags. Smoother, much better smelling and tasting product. Just takes a lot longer.

[@caseyjones7404]

Wine chiller at 60* hanging from wood racks for about 10 days, after the initial chop and hang inside the tent for 1 week. Buds are crispy, fresh and turned almost rock hard and dense. Jar with a humid pack. Premo bud preservation

[@s.jamesdarrin2829]

Fortunately I haven't had the opportunity to have that lmao.......