Why Your Mixes Sound Thin (and how to fix in 6 mix)

[@Alice-Efe]

🔊Do you know I have a whole 16 hours mixing course as well? (Theory + Application)😊❤ 🎶courses.mercurialtones.com/courses/everything-about-mixing

[@ProfessorSaibertin]

Thx Alice!

[@flstudio-iq]

cool🎀

[@inquisitvem6723]

Would you call this song thin or not? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX_Xhn2enZyGmsU

[@muyang_url]

Hi, I really love your tutorials, I've bought your synthesis course! Could you add cc subtitle on your course? I'm considering whether to buy it.

[@Projektor_music]

As a content creator myself I'd say that the most underappriciated part of your channel is delivery. Everyone praises the information being correct and helpful, which is true, but what many might not realize is that is is also presented in an entertaining and engaging manner. Big props for that!

[@O-EMME]

Beccato eheheh

[@nybradley3324]

I second this! I am captivated and as a person with adhd and asp I struggle sometimes to follow vids even if I want to. It’s so easy with your videos! Thank you !

[@Alice-Efe]

Thank you, I am doing my best to keep it interesting whole video ❤️

[@rhozu]

@@Alice-Efe Your videos are so helpful!

[@TheCrafsMan]

Bigtime. The videos are so snappy and flow without ever really having a chance to drag or get boring because the editing is on-point, right along with her dialog/delivery. When it's done this well, for the average viewer it essentially becomes "invisible". So true - it's a rare mix of INFO plus ENGAGING DELIVERY.

[@WizardOfArc]

i love how saving the panning effects until the ambiance phase sounds so much more enveloping - like you are really in the space

[@Syndrome121]

At this stage in my music production journey. I definitely know I need all these things. I think the most important tool of all, at least for me, is patience. I guarantee that most of aren't top notch producers who have a million and one deadlines to meet. The best thing to have when it comes to building out your mix is to have. some. patience. Just slowly tweaking it overtime VS trying to cram it all out at once will save you loads of stress about how your mix is sounding. At the end of the day, we're having fun with it.

[@westbethkid]

This is the best mixing/audio channel on the entire internet. Well paced, gets to the point, not trying to be "funny" but delivering quality ideas and content in a personal, physical way.

[@DomSigalas]

Absolutely love your content Alice - keep it up 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@iamastrage]

Hey Alice, thank you very much for all of your advices, I've been watching your videos probably from the beginning of your channel and i must admit that you most certainly offer the best content for us music producers over the internet. Your work is invaluable and please, don't you ever stop being that awesome and producing such great tracks ! Thank you

[@Alice-Efe]

Aww thanks a ton, really appreciate it! ♥️

[@_TheViewer_]

Another wonderful researched tutorial, thanks a lot for that ! 🎉

[@Alice-Efe]

Cheers ❤❤

[@NormanTiner]

Holy shit. This is the best video I've seen on thickening a mix in like a decade of KZbin tutorials. Really good hands on examples, tons of before and after comparisons, and even little physical science demonstrations like Bill Nye. Great content.

[@rockysikander.8177]

For people who cant afford to go to expensive colleges for music production education, you are nothing short of God for them. If I ever get a chance to meet you, ill touch your feet as a form of respect for what you are doing for people like me.🙏 Thank you Alice.

[@jonathanmaybaum4167]

WOW! I loved all of the info contained in this one, but strangely, the most impactful lesson for me was when you side-chained the reverb. I never paid attention to the output of the compressor, so it was always side-chaining the entire midi track; this just opened up so many new possibilities!!

[@fancha831]

what a beautiful way of explaining things

[@Dawncopal]

Love the way you're presenting and explaining audio, it's something really different than the usual, I don't do electronic but I will be definitely keep learning watching your channel, all the best !

[@djlokho]

Your tutorials have become top notch! So well presented, you can really teach better than most university professors

[@Ursabomb]

omg your graphical explanations are awesome!!!!!!

[@7echnoid]

Great tutorial! I knew some of it already but definitively some new tips as well. Also - Great work with the before/after for each section. I hate when people do a 10 min video with tons of steps and then just show a summarized before/after - it doesn't give you the difference of each step!

[@SammiLucia]

it's good to understand your ears have a "white balance" ... if you've listened to this mix for a while, it will begin to sound fine, because your ears start to adjust. this is why it's important to take breaks, so you can come back and go OMG that sounds terrible. what has happened is your white balance has reset. maybe listen to some reference music (even in a different environment) as part of your break

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

I'm not gonna lie . When this came up in my feed , I said uh oh here we go again. Then upon watching, I was quite surprised, it was super useful. Another tip I would add would be to use a say 8-16 bar and then start working with bass and drums to get them as heavy as (is) possible then start to mix and commit your levels and effects . By switching back in each element one by one so you get a better overall judgement . Don't forget to test on your phone or your car as many times as you can . Somewhere away from the studio where you have no visual guidance just your ears.

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

I've been making music for quite some time but still don't really do much in the way of mixing, mostly cause I'm not trying to release stuff yet, but here's a cool thing I sometimes do: If you do wanna EQ a sound to the point where it's thin, let's say a big tail that clashes harmonically with the next chord, you can EQ out anything you don't like there and fill it back in with very filtered noise mimicking amplitude etc. Noise in the mids is still somewhat slept on by many, it REALLY finishes some sounds. Hell, if the arrangement isn't too full yet, you can have this role fullfilled by atonal percussion with a good reverb, maybe some amplitude automation/lfo tool etc. after all that. That can in and of itself also be set up to act as a layer of a thinner sound, it'll give your plucks an edge similar to the atonal aspects of an epiano etc. You'll usually not wanna copy the midi for this layer btw., overtones don't all just shift up/down linearly with the note you're playing on your guitar etc., you'd sound like a chipmunk if it wasn't for formant and stuff like that. It can still yield cool results if it's freq shifted or at least has a very specific EQ profile to which different notes react super differently, or what have you. That's assuming you're not going for that more raw sound with clearly transposed samples, of course. Hell, you can even use noise in the bass if you're careful. It's easy with things like impacts in a breakdown, but nothing is stopping you from making the grooviest bassline ever, involving both tonal notes and atonal noise playing along with the kick, almost like a ghost note for guitar players.

[@LuxLucidOfficial]

You bring a energy/personality I feel is lacking often in the audio processing world; maybe due to your tight editing but a female presence helps too, I think. You remind me of a mellower Andrew Huang, he is high energy but a bit much (your video feels more natural and personable, real). Thank you for sharing your passion

[@samwiseganja4071]

Fantastic, a lot of info in a short video, been watching for a few years this channel is gold!

[@muppetzboy9738]

Your channel is a diamond, thank you very much for everything

[@Alice-Efe]

❤

[@Allan-et5ig]

Another good video. Somtimes rather than distortion for thin or weak sounds writing new sounds is a better solution. I also liked a TAD bit more of the pinning in terms of stereo movement. Agree the 'before' version was over-kill but the after needs a bit more movement - opinion only.

[@pedromanafaia]

Your videos are always on point and you looking great Alice! Fantastic

[@Alice-Efe]

Thank you! 😊

[@pedromanafaia]

@@Alice-Efe its the truth! 🤗

[@Deepakdabaria11]

Thank you for picking those topics which is so relevant and wow the way you explain things is just insane!!!

[@filiprangus5826]

Thank you! The "Why vs how" thing really touched me

[@falsefreedom1713]

The thicc sound is stunning and I really like the brave creative mixing decisions.

[@GabrielEther]

The side chain on the lead sound was actually a really surprising tip i haven't really thought about since now, thaaaanksss

[@florabee9283]

Excellent topic and presentation! What it is, why it is, how it’s done, what it sounds like.

[@mrlee6740]

Just the video I needed. My mix always sounds thin. I'll apply these techniques. Thanks so much.

[@markm1514]

This is so far outside of how I work with sound, I love it!

[@soniccthehedgehog]

Yes! You are the best channel i have discovered to help my mixes! ❤ thank you for everything!

[@Alice-Efe]

Happy to hear that and good luck with your productions and mixes! 😊✌

[@soniccthehedgehog]

@@Alice-Efe thank you soo much!!! 😁😁😁🙏🙏🙏

[@sastanashedi]

so far the best tutorial for the topic..kudos

[@Art3mosMusic]

I really enjoyed watching this video. High quality stuf. The examples were also very powerful. Got a like!

[@THEMONEYBEATS]

this video was great. I love all your content, you are a great teacher and it helps me learn so much so easily. It is also really nice to see other women in the music production space.

[@frankcasanova2132]

greetings from spain, i love this chanel and i love u alice, i've been following this chanel since 2015 aprox

[@sommaiya]

I am so glad I found you. I will be improving so much!! I can feel itt

[@kennstuff]

HOLY CRAB this is just the best video on the internet. Thank you!

[@baileyfanning1399]

The visual that you use are so helpful to my brain lol, thank you so much!

[@DaveBessell]

Interesting - your tips do indeed make things thicker. However the original thin version had more clarity which is one thing people are looking for when they hi pass a lot of sounds. Its really a delicate balance between thickness/warmth and clarity, not so easy to get right. Nice tutorial though thanks.

[@zaptronic]

Yeah, on my sound system, I think you took it too far, the "after" is quite muddy to me. It lost sparkle and definition. I think there is a middle ground in there somewhere. Plus of course, the correct answer is always just to smack OTT on it :)

[@jbriggsiv]

I felt the same way. This is what I felt happened to so many metal bands when everything went fully digital. The music from classic bands (not nu metal or those attempting to switch to that muddy sound) was criticized, but actually a lot of fidelity was lost in the mix. When played live, many songs sounded great, lending to the argument that the mix dramatically changed what they actually wrote.

[@AsiCmusic]

First Tip is Amazing ! thank you so much and keep up the amazing work !

[@eurometrixproductions7]

Thank you Alice! Love your Charm and Personality! Keep up the great tutorials!! 🫶🏼

[@GabrielSilva-vu3xk]

I love the new camera box design, so cool!

[@AmphigorianXIII]

Saying how much I appreciate you for this content would be an understatement. These videos are sooo helpful!

[@CircleOfSvlt]

You’re saving my mix, thank you so much!

[@romanpistelak58]

I just discovered your channel and i must say you are awesome. good informations and not boring.

[@rayjayvids]

Wow, a concisely explained audio visual presentation of how to use plug ins to view and effect a track. Tbh, the original, unaltered track, sounded good but not as good as when you applied focussed dynamism. Why and how was nicely explained . Why first followed by the How! I use Logic Pro with mostly stock plug-ins but it matters not because I can see the same principles will apply. I was interested to see the EQs graphic display of the final mix and how your techniques of a fattening and focussing of the whole mix and gave it depth and heightened energy. Thanks for that Alice, I learned a lot.

[@Nedirbuciddiyet]

Dear Alice, you are great! The quality of your videos is amazing and your imagination amazes me a lot!

[@Alice-Efe]

Thank you! 😊

[@kephalosmusic]

Its like you knew i needed this! i legit couldn't find a video like this😍. Currently working on a mix and felt pretty stumped on fixing some of these issues.TY Alice!

[@richtrelo]

Your tutorials are fantastic. Very well explained. Love your editing too!

[@beingbeyonddat]

This video is simply awesome!! Thanks for your time!

[@Alice-Efe]

Happy to help! 😊

[@lukekharma8675]

All your videos are amazing. You are the best teacher on KZbin.

[@artjey_official]

Dear Alice, Thank you for great content. It is very easy to understand! Please, continue your work! Kind regards, Artem

[@pakovbasyuk]

Alice, your energy is outstanding! TY for the vibes. Also extra respect for bringing real world acoustic examples with bottles, scissors, guitars. As a instrument player who came into electronic production I appreciate these sparkles of knowledge.

[@briancase6180]

Your videos are fantastic, thanks! But, I apologize in advance for being pedantic: you mix up dynamics and dynamic range again. Dynamic range is a property of a channel or a storage format. Dynamics is a property of music or audio. The dynamic range of a channel or a format (e.g., CD-quality audio) tells you if it can represent faithfully the dynamics of your audio. CD audio has 96dB of dynamic range (it has 16-bit PCM, which, at ~6dB per bit, gives you 96dB), so it can definitely represent your audio. The dynamics are the difference between loud and quiet in your audio (or music: ppp vs fff, for example). Dynamics != dynamic range. It would be like confusing pitch (a D#) of a note and the scale of a song (it's in Am): they are two different (but related) concepts.

[@stillupmusic]

Wow thank you!! You're videos are so well-thought out and super informative!!

[@jungmou56]

I always bad at mix and don’t know how to fix it until I found you 🎉you are the best mixing tutorial KZbinr!Very appreciate your effort ! Hope you will consider make a video about how to mix an fingerstyle guitar ❤

[@falschnehmung]

... so valuable - AND made with LOVE !!!

[@heriport6654]

I would suspect after mastering it would sound pretty nuts! great video

[@RogueFire29]

always improving! And always something to learn! Thank you so much

[@thedailyremedy968]

The amount of work that must have gone into this one video! just the editing alone, I know, as i used to be an editor. Everything is great and on point on so many levels-congrats!

[@brettshrekington]

Beautifully well made video. Thank you so much for this. This is one of the best explanations I’ve ever heard for this subject and I’ve tried to figure this out for years!! Always struggle with my mixes sounding thin & you worded it in such a way that I am able to make sense of it

[@brettshrekington]

Also, do you have a channel/link for your music? I would love to support it

[@Alice-Efe]

@@brettshrekington You can search for "biskuwi" on Spotify 😊

[@plexxarbiitch]

The first chapter is what I’ve done since the beginning bc I love bass so much

[@andrewturnerlasers9128]

Brilliant video! Your channel has everything I was looking for. Thank you.

[@Silencedship]

Glad to see you posting so frequently. Thanks for the content!

[@mpirgkel4363]

I think it's enough just to watch this video to find your potential.This is absolutely great!👏

[@INNERMONO_]

I think it'd be good to mention how the analyser in span works by default to your viewers as they might get confused that it actually tilts hi to low by default unlike spectrum which tilts low to high

[@ephjaymusic]

Ayy! Outstanding presentation as always!

[@elijahchesterthomas5334]

So good at explaining. Appreciate this video. Thank you.

[@captainalpaka1551]

I think Klanghelm Mjuc is such a great Tool to quickly deal with those issues. I use it literally on every track in my compositions.

[@SiTheMon777]

I never knew Alice was a metalhead😂🤘. Great advice

[@B24Fox]

This video should have been called : "how to strip ALL the character from a track, and make it sound as generic as possible, in just a few easy steps"

[@HVYCHKNRADIO]

SPOT ON!

[@janbriggs7619]

THIS IS. COOL. I AM SIGNING UP SOON. THANKS IT'S SUPER !!

[@fano72]

Cool track! Your video was enlightening, too 😉

[@rayran507]

really cool video! What did you do with the hats at 3:35 ? You just changed the sample no? it sound really niice after

[@inqmusician2]

If you don't hear that much highs, you can bump up slightly on the master, but only a little bit becasue, you can make it sound tinny again.

[@INFINITE_GLITCH_]

Your tutorials are fantastic, good job , looking forward to more

[@PhilipZilfo]

Seriously.. bravo.. this was a great video!

[@heavenly2k]

I love the way you teach and your voice is nice :p

[@irvingforce]

I never realized you are in Sweden! Or do people bang on Loka bottles in other countries as well?

[@bekimachine]

Just stumbled across your channel and love your videos! Wanting to improve my mixing & producing skills and I've learnt so much already, thank you!

[@Alice-Efe]

Glad you did, welcome to our community! 😊

[@andresherrera458]

Golden content so glad I found your channel! Is there a video that looks at the opposite of this? When your mixes are too thick (kind of muddy)?

[@andresherrera458]

I guess it would be to follow the opposite of what you showed here with some balance.

[@bluedev1495]

Damn this is exactly what I needed.

[@ballislife6969]

Hi Alice! :D Just wanted to say I noticed you wrote thing instead of thin in your caption for this video. Just want to try and help :). Also, thanks for the amazing video!

[@kaleidoscopicvoid]

The answer to all questions like this is "Just add more reverb."

[@splaffspliff1676]

Alice rocking that Guitar. Awesome content on your Chanel.

[@Alice-Efe]

Haha cheers! ❤😊

[@AaronTrimbleMusic]

Cool Track! Thank you for the great mixing tips

[@Eeter-of7dz]

Really good advice. Thanks!

[@gokhan9395]

this is awesome.. thanks a lot for the great tips!

[@t-ladtheband]

2:06 "in the pants we are pie pressing all the way" love this auto subtitles....

[@juniorrafaelofficial6176]

Thank you for this video and may God bless you

[@ReeWebster]

Dynamic range/crest factor 100%, & audition everything loud before using it, lots of sounds fall apart when pushed.

[@ivantordecilla5499]

Love the way the bad examples sounds much better than i have done ever :V

[@vibindcostamusic]

Love from 🇮🇳

[@ShowPlusCo]

Amazing video as always. It Would be great if you include the sides information in span :)

[@julioagueros]

Excellent and straight forward

[@fancha831]

amazing video

[@GaborKmetyko]

Very nicely done, chapeau!

[@rickybahar9134]

@Projektor_music, mate, you are spot on. Alice, you are doing an awesome job with the presentation. Keeping everyone glued to the information you are sharing... I am an singer and entertainer and very much involved in my passion life's music... Performing live is my main forte around the Globe with bands or backing tracks. However, I have just started creating some content for my YT channel, I work on Cubase, but the tips and pointers that you are talking about are applicable to audio productions in general.... And are extremely helpful. I have been performing covers most of my career. But since the dawn of 2023 I decided to work on my own music. I would love to collaborate with you on some music....All the very best with your channel and your music career.... Also You look amazing as well 🙂 ❤