Why Your New Coil Top Stove Just Won't Heat Right

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Күн бұрын

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@ayrezazu6267
@ayrezazu6267 10 ай бұрын
I was shopping for a new electric range and so happy I found out the problems with these new stoves before I bought one. I am now just going to keep mine as it still works.
@everythinghomerepair1747
@everythinghomerepair1747 8 ай бұрын
When you do eventually buy a new stove you can pull the coils off of your existing stove and plug them right into a new coil top model like shown in the video. Then there will be no difference in the new and old stove.
@Warp2090
@Warp2090 6 ай бұрын
@@everythinghomerepair1747 And its good to keep a container of baking soda in reach near the stove incase of a grease fire.
@Robert-sl7jo
@Robert-sl7jo 2 ай бұрын
@@everythinghomerepair1747 The problem is finding the right part number.
@joshuaobelenusable
@joshuaobelenusable Жыл бұрын
The snarky humor is hilarious. Plenty of good information intermingled with the humor keeps people engaged. Great video as usual!
@neutrodyne
@neutrodyne Жыл бұрын
Never been disappointed with this channel. They are always informative and nice to watch. The device shown in the middle of the heating element is known as a thermal switch. It acts as a closed switch until it reaches a set temperature and then it opens up. It will automatically close back at another preset temperature.
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I bought our first home about 9 years ago, the elderly couple were kind enough to leave a base model Tappan stove for us. It's needed a new dial for one of the burners, two new burning elements, a heating element for the oven, and the circuit board that runs the oven failed. Fixed it all myself in spite of my wife wanting to ditch it a couple of times lol, but honestly the parts are so cheap and it's very easy to fix, I just can't see getting rid of it. I'd hate to replace it with something that couldn't be fixed easily with almost universal parts, so in my opinion it's a keeper. All those parts totalled less than $200 over the years and took just a few minutes to install. Not to mention everyone wants to be "green" these days, in my opinion I'm doing my part keeping an old stove going vs spending a thousand dollars on a new glass top that looks snazzy.
@Warp2090
@Warp2090 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Fixing and keeping a old stove running is far better for the environment than buying a overrated flattop stove.
@staceykeshia6225
@staceykeshia6225 4 ай бұрын
This new method is so annoying!! It takes much longer to fry chicken the eyes just doesn’t get hot enough for me
@gisman_2000
@gisman_2000 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I got a new stove last year with the new coils. Not only is it terrible at keeping things hot, but when I cook something in a skillet I've noticed there is a cold spot in the center of my skillet. I believe it's because those sensors are so large in the middle of the coil. I'm constantly moving the skillet around to get it (and keep it) hot. I prefer the old coils.
@gisman_2000
@gisman_2000 9 ай бұрын
@@kathrynkathryn4836 I use cast iron, in fact all of my skillets are cast iron, just how I grew up, but it doesn't matter, still cold spots. I noticed in another comment below that if I replace the coils, I need to be aware of the wattage, something I didn't know.
@kathym6603
@kathym6603 9 ай бұрын
@@kathrynkathryn4836 Cast iron skillets are great for meat: burgers, steak, bacon. One person and one 8" cast iron skillet is a perfect marriage.
@buckhaa1502
@buckhaa1502 4 ай бұрын
I'm right now trying to get a big pot of water to boil......it won't boil!!!!!. This is ridiculous
@bettymcray6642
@bettymcray6642 Ай бұрын
It's a bunch of bull. A scam from the manufacturer. Taking your money. Don't buy. No freedom of choice for someone who loves to cook.
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to make sure of is that the wattage of the coils is the same. A lot of 8" replacement coils you can buy are only 2100w where the stove would have come with a 2600w coil when new. Maintenance replaced my old beat up coils with new ones and despite being perfectly flat they sucked even more than the 20 year old bent coils. I found out that they only order the slightly cheaper 2100w coils as replacements, but this model stove came with 2600w when new. The 2100w coil performed about as well as the 2600w safety coils on my Mom's new Frigidaire stove, but the classic 2600w coils absolutely blow the safety coils out of the water.
@fabou3
@fabou3 Жыл бұрын
Grew up with gas stoves. Moved into a house with an electric stove. Took a bit to get used to. Had one smooth top and loved it! Now have a new coil top with the center caps, it still heats w/o a pot on it and doesn't heat as fast as old ones. Have an induction burner just for boiling water!
@gamerjorts
@gamerjorts Жыл бұрын
Good to know I can (potentially) just pop the old style coils into my stove. I'm unfortunately stuck using one of these newer style coil stoves and I'm so tired of the burner turning off on me.
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын
I've heard these stoves are really popular in apartments where the landlord has no faith in the tenants which is sad... it'd be a fine product (maybe) except for the hundreds of horror stories I've heard of people not even being able to boil water. You'd think they'd iron out the bugs as this product has been available for quite a number of years now...
@dogcat823
@dogcat823 Жыл бұрын
Where are you from as I’m from Canada and I haven’t seen stoves with these new burners in any stores and I didn’t even know they existed until I watched them video
@lynanneconnors2688
@lynanneconnors2688 Ай бұрын
@@dogcat823I’m in Canada (Alberta) and was out shopping for new stove today and all the coil element stoves had those sensors so for that reason only, it was a no even though a coil stove was what I was after. I could see the problems I might have as soon as I seen these and asked about them.
@nobodyknowsanything705
@nobodyknowsanything705 Күн бұрын
I have this type for just 1 year.. What a nightmare..I complain all year. My husband finally tried to cook on it.. we're now buying a gas stove... Over a grand wasted on this crap😡
@kathym6603
@kathym6603 9 ай бұрын
This is such a great video. Here we are as consumers living at the mercy of ill-designed products. They have us working for our "machines" instead of the machines working for us. These "new coils" look like they can remove the joy of cooking. Even if you bypass the new coils and install old ones there goes the joy of feeling safe. I've always loved your videos. You are a master.
@SVMSICE
@SVMSICE Жыл бұрын
Man I gotta say, I been a follower of your channel for a while now. I’m really not interested in appliances, but your videos are great and teach me a lot. Somehow you’ve captured my attention on a subject I just really don’t care about lol. Good job 👏. I’ve got a few channels like this, there is a channel with a guy who does concrete work, another subject that I really just don’t care about but somehow my attention gets grabbed and I enjoy the content. It’s cool because I learn about things that I have no interest in and never set out to learn anything about. Keep up the good work!
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I understand and appreciate your support! Appliances can be pretty mundane and I get that, so I try to at least make the education videos a little bit entertaining!
@prinzchen17
@prinzchen17 Жыл бұрын
@@bensappliancesandjunk you really do! 🤓 And I would even add that i learned something (about fridges specifically) that I was able to translate to my European/German home environment, where some appliances are a little bit different than in North America (washing machines, ACs and stoves for example).
@Jon.Rushing
@Jon.Rushing Жыл бұрын
What is the concrete channel, if you don't mind?
@ricknelsonm
@ricknelsonm Жыл бұрын
@jonrushing21873 3 days ago What is the concrete channel, if you don't mind?
@dogcat823
@dogcat823 Жыл бұрын
@@bensappliancesandjunk I’m from Canada and I haven’t seen stoves with these new burners in any stores and I didn’t even know they existed until I watched them video
@seniduteklu4935
@seniduteklu4935 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, and today you just solved my 2 months' problems. I went to Home Depot today and $31.50 costs, and it works ....Thank you
@tzzz7
@tzzz7 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine who is a cooks cook bought the GE convection w coil stove top rig. Raved about it. I bought the non convection version (about 4 yrs ago). I am a house sitter- use every type, brand,etc . I have to say that I prefer mine. It's fast , efficient, even heat. WAY better than my previous old school rig and so much more even than all of the fancy ones I've used. Besides stoves, I have used a million other appliance brands of appliances - I pretty much agree with your assessment of everything. Fab channel!
@femalecrusader8389
@femalecrusader8389 2 ай бұрын
I went to find a coil stove and found the exact same as the one in this video. The glass top stoves the markings tend to disappear is the only reason I didn't want it. Thank you for explaining this type of coil.
@ricktaylor26
@ricktaylor26 Жыл бұрын
I believe that you are the best on you tube . Hat and coat great idea. Thanks
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Im trying to help and do a good job, thanks!
@lindathomas2407
@lindathomas2407 Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about the induction stoves, but few articles say anything about how safe they are for people who have medical devices like a pacemaker, since there is a magnetic field involved with the cooktops. If you haven’t done your video on induction stoves yet, could you address the issue? I enjoy your videos and have learned so much from them!
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
They are safe with pacemakers.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
What is your deal? Do you know how rapidly the magnetic flux decays with distance? It's amazing the technology used to save people like you. Of course another post 2020 account.
@DaMominator
@DaMominator Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of canning and pickling. These sensi-temp burners are simply not hot enough for canning. Today i was making grape jam, which requires a minimum liquid temp of 217°. Never could get it beyond 215°. Watched it boil for a half hour, with the digital thermometer reading 215° at cutoff, then cooling to 211° before turning back on. Back and forth, 211/215. I'm stuck with a crapload of grape syrup instead of jam because of this useless feature 😂
@servingourlord
@servingourlord 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering about this. Perhaps purchasing 1 old style to use only when canning?
@handles_are_dumb_01
@handles_are_dumb_01 3 ай бұрын
Good information. I’m going to replace one of my sensor coils with a regular one - the one I use primarily to boil water. Always wondered why it was slower.
@KevinInPhoenix
@KevinInPhoenix Жыл бұрын
I wonder just how many heating cycles those temperature sensors in the new coils are good for. The more moving parts, the more things to break. I am still using a 27 year old GE stove with the traditional coils and it always works great.
@rogerstlaurent8704
@rogerstlaurent8704 Жыл бұрын
Depending how much cooking you do that thermal fuse is the same as a dryer the more you use it the weaker it gets you could get a few years to 10 yrs tough to say everyones different and you said you got a 27yro GE stove keep it going super easy to repair for the newer stove with the safety coils just walk away i knew a few people that have them and boy do they hate them ... for cheap insurance buy a fire extinguisher
@ThumperX9
@ThumperX9 Жыл бұрын
Yup, using my 25 year old GE...stove and oven still good...timer buttons are worn.
@agems56
@agems56 Жыл бұрын
Once I went the induction route, there's no going back! Super fast to boil, and quick cool down, just like with gas!
@husky1993a
@husky1993a Жыл бұрын
Not to mention much less energy being used
@billspooks
@billspooks Жыл бұрын
I have two 16 quart ALUMINUM canners. For me it is a consideration.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
Better than gas really
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
@@billspooks induction can work with aluminum now too
@beeleo
@beeleo Жыл бұрын
@@jhoughjr1 No it can't... not unless the aluminum pan is specially designed for induction and made with an iron core.
@chrisssmallengines7163
@chrisssmallengines7163 Жыл бұрын
Great video , Any time you are dealing with stoves , BBQs you should never walk away . I never do because it is too easy to get distracted and forget . If I do usually using the oven set the timer so you do not forget .
@damionfragoso2655
@damionfragoso2655 Жыл бұрын
Can you please do a review of why would you put the controls behind the hot items?
@sachita2920
@sachita2920 Жыл бұрын
I think it's because the people who design these things don't really cook. It is truly ridiculous that the placement of controls on freestanding ranges require users to get steam or oil burns on their forearms if they need to adjust the heat, It's a built=in safety hazard.
@stevec404
@stevec404 Жыл бұрын
Years ago they "improved" washing machines with washer plates...no agitators. Worst purchase of an appliance I ever made. Was about to buy a coil top stove (not a fan of glass tops). The new heat limiters are not for me. Are all coil top stoves mandated to have them?
@dgaud2007
@dgaud2007 Жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting just a note i went to a local appliance store looking for a new stove and the sales person avoided the New coil top stove but I was intrigued by the safety switch and he said it won't boil so don't buy it 😂😮😅
@BluetheRaccoon
@BluetheRaccoon Жыл бұрын
You're a real gem, Sir. I wish I could afford to buy you a real Maytag man hat!
@CroneLife1
@CroneLife1 Жыл бұрын
Very much looking forward to your upcoming comparison video. You're doing a major public service here.
@scottward4316
@scottward4316 4 ай бұрын
We sell those thermal cut-offs at our industrial electronics store. They open at various temps & can be changed out to other temperatures.
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 3 ай бұрын
I have had similar experiences with the closed style of cook top. But this was a 29 euro, 2 plate ultra cheap one though with thermostatic control. At its maximum, it would still cycle on and off which made it slower when boiling a large pot of pasta, but also - and that was especially annoying - make it impossible to do a good stir fry. It was cheap so it was alright, but i did consider installing an extra knob so i could just run it full power. But as you say, i was sorta worried about getting in trouble and something went wrong with it - and it then being my fault.
@pabloescobar7139
@pabloescobar7139 20 күн бұрын
Nothing beats a good ole gas burner stove. gets the job done perfetcly everytime.
@DGTelevsionNetwork
@DGTelevsionNetwork Жыл бұрын
I'm fairness, there do exist external stove thermal cutoffs, they plug right into the 3/4 pin connector and then it mounts onto the rear or side wall. I can't say how extremely effective they are but they've prevented a couple of fires, biggest issue is setting the clock back.
@RandomBitzzz
@RandomBitzzz Жыл бұрын
Seems like this safety feature just adds another potential point of failure. If you had issues with a burner before this feature was introduced it was almost always the result of a failing infinite switch. Now they've gone and put extra 'lectronics in what used to be a much simpler setup. Sure... it should be simple to diagnose a bad temp sensor (it looks like a normally closed temp controlled switch), but I'll bet if it's bad you need to replace the whole element... or just bypass the sensor :-)
@davemeise2192
@davemeise2192 Жыл бұрын
If one has a stove with those temperature switches why not just bypass them? Simply connect the two leads together. Then it will work just like an old style coil burner. Of course one would still have a cold spot in the middle but until one can buy a standard replacement it would work.
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 Жыл бұрын
Grease fire? Keep your stove clean to prevent it and once in a while, when I see grease coating the element, I turn on the element for a couple of minutes to burn the grease away. I also use stoves for emergency heating, run a couple of rings and be sure to have a fan blowing on top of the elements.
@robertmack7116
@robertmack7116 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! On all points!
@davemeise2192
@davemeise2192 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you tonylam9548. I'm almost 70 now and have used wood, gas and electric stoves for decades. Everyone I grew up with used them too. I only know of one person who had a grease fire on their stove. I was there when it happened and it scared the hell out of them but they simply threw a damp towel on it and it went out. Keep your stove clean!
@OldFordTaurus
@OldFordTaurus Жыл бұрын
I clean my stove, coils, drip pans and raise up the stove top and clean after every use. I’ve never had an issue
@ShawnJonesHellion
@ShawnJonesHellion 3 ай бұрын
Everything in America is made disposable to resell. the terrorist government is ran by the same race/family the corporations usually. They work together to ban force consumers to buy new stuff constantly. They say they are an alien race enslaving humanity. Which makes sense since all president's recently including Obama mom are related to everyone allowed to own an do anything. Note Obama mom looks like 80% Hollywood an the government an KZbin pop stars. As aliens they may possibly be able to shapeshift. Usually when not black hair black eye grey skins with yamakas; they have blondes or others with massive bug alien eyes working for them. An they try to kill humans who see them. I ran for president to expose an eliminate them but apparently I'm not their species so not allowed on tv
@servingourlord
@servingourlord 2 ай бұрын
My glass top couldn't boil water. I got a used coil with this new type of coil and man cooking has been great!
@Compton310finest
@Compton310finest 11 ай бұрын
I have the new coil top stove and I find that I get the best a most even cooking using cast iron when the coil cuts off the cast iron holds its temp and by the time the temp starts to drop the coil cuts back on to it’s not really noticeable h
@jocarson5310
@jocarson5310 Жыл бұрын
We need to replace our stove andhave been avoiding a glass top because we pressure can and are worried that a glass top could shatter. Do you have any recommendations on a glass top that can safely hold a pressure canner filled with jars and water?
@hotpuppy1
@hotpuppy1 Жыл бұрын
Good to know. I don't plan to ever get a coil type electric stove again. We have a 30 year old Magic Chef with the removable coils. I hate it. Takes a long time to heat water to boiling and hard to control temps as once it is hot (have to tilt/lift the pot to keep it from boiling over until it cools off). One thing this stove has done several times is the connection socket contacts that the coils plugs into gets loose over time and arcs. I've changed the one on the burner we use the most (right front) several times. At least this stove doesn't have all the electronic BS.
@rogerstlaurent8704
@rogerstlaurent8704 Жыл бұрын
was saying the same thing BS safety Devices Ben did a real nice test but cook REAL FOOD and see how much you would love your new Stove with all the BS safety devices YES SAFETY DEVICES WORK but overdoing it is a BIG problem because smart OK DUMB people will find a way to override a SAFETY DEVICE trust me see it first hand
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
Ah boomers.
@HavenUpsurge
@HavenUpsurge Жыл бұрын
Thank you you just solved a huge headache to me!!
@danielthompson6768
@danielthompson6768 11 ай бұрын
How dose the UL keep gas Ranges from grease fires ?
@robertgaines-tulsa
@robertgaines-tulsa Жыл бұрын
We've had a couple of grease fires with our old coil-top stove, so grease fires are no joke. They were mostly caused by my middle brother who would put margarine in a pan, set it on high, and walk away forgetting about it. Someone just happened to walk into the kitchen and see the inferno. I honestly don't know why we didn't have any fire damage from those instances. Probably because we just caught it in time. Water will spread the oil making the fire ten times worse. Get a lid to smother the fire.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
I love how the home of the brave has become the padded room to keep dumb people alive.
@daveb8598
@daveb8598 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! This is great knowledge, and also very entertaining! I believe induction will win out, I hope our next stove will be induction.
@Robert-sl7jo
@Robert-sl7jo 2 ай бұрын
My wife and I have bought a new GE stove model JCBS280DMWW. It comes with the new coil and we would like to know what pre-band coils to get that will fit. We're very busy and need to cook quickly, I've had normal element stoves and never had a grease fire. I know GE makes the older coils, I just need the model numbers for the 6 and 8-inch elements.
@chevediamo
@chevediamo 2 ай бұрын
thank you, good video , clear voice, lots of information always , i will follow your channel forever.
@nchw68
@nchw68 Жыл бұрын
9:03 Water boils at 212 F. The pots are too reflective to get accurate readings unless the temp gun has adjustable emmissivity for different surface types, but most inexpensive temp guns have fixed emmissivity. I'm guessing your temp gun has fixed emmissivity. The 202 F reading with the water boiling should have tipped you off that the temp gun was way out in left field.
@kelson63100
@kelson63100 Жыл бұрын
Love the saucy little quips scattered amongst the info. 😉
@TrussttN01
@TrussttN01 Жыл бұрын
For those of us who have been using stoves for decades without a problem, we don’t need UL to be our nanny.
@TheTarrMan
@TheTarrMan Жыл бұрын
If people would just clean their crap a lot of these issues we face today would be nonexistent. Too bad I lost my old gas stove in a fishing accident, I'm gonna have to use one of those probably maybe. On a serious note, how are things there? You guys still boiling water? (You know what I mean)
@drewbrown9678
@drewbrown9678 Жыл бұрын
I love the 4:00 mark you turn on the front right burner, then at the 4:05 mark, the right rear is magically the on in the on position! lol
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Nice catch. You're right. I shot the segments where I'm on screen mostly in-order, then did all the cooking/testing afterwards, thus the difference
@squatch545
@squatch545 5 ай бұрын
Where is your coil top vs smooth top comparison video? Did you ever make it? I can't find it anywhere.
@jw77019
@jw77019 Жыл бұрын
The old Frigidaire coils were the best ever. They were very large and very fast.
@swampcabbage3239
@swampcabbage3239 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my ge stove uses these burners. Great when they work but they are tempermental.
@47retta
@47retta Жыл бұрын
Ben, what do you think about canning on a glass top stove? Some manuals say you can, some you can't. Some people successfully can on them even when it says you can't.
@jason50146
@jason50146 Жыл бұрын
I've been canning for years on glass top stoves. The manuals for my models make no mention of the subject. I use big stock pots for blanching and I have a large pressure canner.
@47retta
@47retta Жыл бұрын
@@jason50146my manual says not to do it. Maybe I'll give it a try.
@jason50146
@jason50146 Жыл бұрын
@@47retta I would follow your manual. The stoves I have had never mentioned it in the manuals.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
Ah wives tales. Just like the jocks telling me iron weights were the heaviest weights
@jjjones4982
@jjjones4982 Жыл бұрын
I've replaced the elements of my glass top stove & have the same problem it isn't getting as hot.
@darkwing3713
@darkwing3713 11 ай бұрын
I personally prefer glass top stoves, but mine needs to be replaced and the reviews of the new ones are abysmal. I don't want a glass top that breaks if you look at it funny. The main reason the new coils can't even boil water is because manufacturers want to kill off the longer lasting coil stoves. They could make effective and safe coil stoves, but they'd rather rip you off.
@andybub45
@andybub45 Жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t believe they still sell these. Even newer apartments are using glass top stoves, mine has a glass top Frigidaire. My old apartment had a GE coil top that worked ok but I definitely prefer a glass top.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Жыл бұрын
I almost bought one of these instead of the glass top I bought when I bought my house. The reason is because we don't have gas at the house I bought and I was afraid I might accidentally break the glass top. The reviews on the new coil stoves were all pretty bad and the glass top looked so much nicer. I'm glad I chose glass. One day I will get a propane tank installed and go with a gas stove again because nothing beats gas, but that's a long way off.
@47retta
@47retta Жыл бұрын
Many people who like to can food say they are better for canning. The glass top stoves often say you can't use them for canning because of the weight.
@drewbrown9678
@drewbrown9678 Жыл бұрын
Never had one of these machines fail due to dropping something one it. Glass tops are okay, but more likely to fail than coil cooktops.
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 Жыл бұрын
My mom has cast iron skillets plus she slides and drops her pans a lot so no glass tops for her.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
Glass top is junk.
@anthonyverdin6743
@anthonyverdin6743 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your “entertaining “videos.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheOtherBill
@TheOtherBill Жыл бұрын
I like your idea of a comparison, glass top vs induction vs the 2 coil types. But throw in a gas stove too!
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Gotta have a good reliable connection for that. Truth is we only got propane, and using thats kinda dicey on the hookup. But I do want to figure a workaround
@baypos
@baypos Жыл бұрын
​@@bensappliancesandjunk Methane also.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of glass top at all. They do trick boomers into thinking they are induction though
@keithtidwell4140
@keithtidwell4140 Ай бұрын
We have been in the appliance/ furniture business since 1979. This has became a constant complaint with these ranges. The easiest solution is to order a set of older elements. It’s absolutely ridiculous that you can’t boil water because UL decides it isn’t safe. You can’t find a washer with a mechanical timer and these new control boards are garbage. Since 2018 appliances have really went to crap.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Ай бұрын
Hey Keith, I am working on a video regarding the history of Maytag and what led to them getting bought out. Any thoughts on Maytag in the 1980s and 1990s and 00s with their product line? I know about the massive Neptune debacle and what caused a lot of issues with it. But I'm trying to deep-dive into PAV and SAV models with their issues or lack of them. Any advice?
@ronalddevine9587
@ronalddevine9587 Жыл бұрын
Got a question for you. How reliable are the current induction stoves? Who makes the most reliable? Thanks, Ron.
@drewbrown9678
@drewbrown9678 Жыл бұрын
They have a higher fail rate due to power surges when the power goes out.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Like all things its going to depend on manufacturer. IMHO, they aren't the best because of wanting to cheap out on the generator boards. They are NOT cheap to replace. I am unsure what brand, if any are best. Maybe slight edge to GE right now. But like all things, the manufacturers likely aren't building them to last more than 10-15 years, and the replacement parts for the induction system is nightmarish vs. surface elements.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Жыл бұрын
@@drewbrown9678 I’m gonna call 100 percent bullshit on that.
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 Жыл бұрын
I need an explanation of how the new coils can prevent grease fires compared to the old coils. Seems like both wound ignite grease equally.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Literally have a video on that which should appear at th3 end of thr video to link to..m
@adamsensabaugh1417
@adamsensabaugh1417 Жыл бұрын
I think I have the glass top version of that stove. I always felt like the burners don’t get that hot
@jackiesnowflake2255
@jackiesnowflake2255 10 ай бұрын
I found out that when you buy a glass top stove there is a warranty for the stove but not for the glass top. So if the glass top breaks before your warranty is up on the stove your out of luck you’ll have to buy a new stove top to the tune of around $800 dollars, you just might as well buy a new stove
@adamsensabaugh1417
@adamsensabaugh1417 10 ай бұрын
Well, I better be gentle then
@johnmccormick8159
@johnmccormick8159 3 ай бұрын
Do radiant heat glass nop stoves have the same requirements? My radiant to heat like there's no tomorrow.
@Fredengle
@Fredengle 5 ай бұрын
Got a question for you is it likley that my current stove the manf probably provide a new replacement fire prevention burner?
@jasonstorie8740
@jasonstorie8740 Жыл бұрын
whirlpool has kits that they will sell thru parts to fix this I’ve put several of them on. At least they did I’ve been running strictly high end service calls sub/wolf Viking Jenn air for asko, etc. for about a year
@steveolive9991
@steveolive9991 Жыл бұрын
How will UL limit the temp of a burner on gas stove???
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 3 ай бұрын
Gas stoves are inherently more risky while using them. But the UL equivalent in my country does require them to have a thermocouple so if somehow the flame goes out, gas won't flow out - and you have to keep the knob pushed in for 10 seconds after ignition for it to heat up, meaning that pets won't be able to start the gas or ignite it, avoiding the risk that Ben showed with the Samsung stove recall video and electric stoves turned on too easily by accident.
@Roadhardd
@Roadhardd Жыл бұрын
With so many KZbin content providers floating second, “b roll” channels, you could add a second channel called The Rotund Repairman!
@KarenL-v8b
@KarenL-v8b 9 ай бұрын
Where is the test you say you will perform at the end of the video - Coil vs surface element?
@kathym6603
@kathym6603 9 ай бұрын
Re-watch from 10:00 ... the part where he shows that the oven is "glowing" from the heat emitted from the new coils. Then he shows why the surface element (as opposed to the coil) keeps this from happening.
@julianparks8485
@julianparks8485 Жыл бұрын
Can one use ironware on an induction stove? There is concern it might break the glass.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine its any different than a surface element one (glass top w/o induction). I've been using cast iron on mine for 4 years with zero issues.
@julianparks8485
@julianparks8485 Жыл бұрын
@@bensappliancesandjunk Excellent!
@freelivingtennessee
@freelivingtennessee 4 ай бұрын
8:57 and this is why it takes me 20 mins to boil pasta (can’t use a lid when boiling pasta or it overflows!!!) instead of 8-10 mins!!!
@robertwhite9898
@robertwhite9898 Жыл бұрын
Good to know & very informative!
@Robert-sl7jo
@Robert-sl7jo Ай бұрын
I've tried finding exact replacement burners for my GE JCBS280DM3WW Sensi-Temp stove which has been practically impossible. GE Canada in an email said to get burners at my local hardware store but didn't specify sensi-temp. GE Canada gave me model numbers WB03T10167 for the 8-inch burners with the "pigtail" connectors and model number WB30T10076 for the 6-inch burners with the "spade" connectors. What is going on? Neither of these burners are sensi-temp but are standard burners. All of my sensi-temp burners have "pigtail" connectors. What game is GE playing? A non-sensi-temp burner from my old stove bought at a hardware store under the "Laser" name fits in my new stove and works perfectly. A side note, the sensi-temp burners in my new stove do turn on "without" a pan on them, but they do cycle on and off while cooking. I suppose that GE bypassed the on/off switch in these burners.
@daethar
@daethar Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the knowledge 👍
@earleenpurvis5802
@earleenpurvis5802 6 ай бұрын
I just bought ge stove with these safety burners,I hate them.I cannot even get to point of finishing a complete cooking process & they cut off in middle of cooking.I have to keep hopping from burner to burner.Tried to make fried chicken & forget it,will not let oil get hot enough.Paid enough for this stove & now have to buy old style burners for it too?They are expensive. IM SO DISAPPOINTED
@mibars
@mibars Жыл бұрын
It's actually amazing that these style of cookers are still produced, I never seen one like this less than couple of decades old. I thought that induction cookers took over whole market, except for the very cheapest cooktops and maybe as the last resort option for those who don't want to replace their copper or aluminum pots.
@josephgoleski5434
@josephgoleski5434 Жыл бұрын
A lot of it is property management companies not wanting to spend $ on induction. The residents where I work aren't happy with these new elements.
@KAIHANKITCHENAPPLIANCES
@KAIHANKITCHENAPPLIANCES 2 ай бұрын
It looks so good!
@Skyliner_369
@Skyliner_369 Жыл бұрын
I personally would love an all-metal-compatible induction cooktop.
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re 5 ай бұрын
I'm currently living in an apartment as I'm in the process of building my 2 bed 1 bath bungalow, and it has a 24 inch "apartment " size stove with these stupid "safety " elements and I absolutely hate them. Cannot maintain a boil in my 8 quart stock pot that I use for pasta. In fact I'm more or less forced to pull out my 20k BTU Coleman 2 burner stove for anything that requires " medium-high " or more. All while paying $1050/mo for a studio 🤬 For my new home I already brought a GE profile stainless steel gas range with the 20k BTU tri ring burner, got it converted to LP already and tested it on a 20 lb cylinder in the shed. The best $1,400 spent. Nothing else I've cooked on compares. Plus I can cook during a power outage. Cannot wait until later this fall when my house should be move-in ready. Screw all these "safety " features. But I do appreciate the government being very concerned for our "safety and well-being" 😅 (Sarcasm)
@billmoretz8718
@billmoretz8718 Жыл бұрын
I quit using oils. Sometimes sauté with butter, but always monitor it closely. Too many people get distracted.
@fooledman
@fooledman Жыл бұрын
Had an oven heating element explode. Lucky we were present to put out the fire.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I had it happen to me before I got into appliances. Its a very scary thing if you aren't understanding of whats happening.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Жыл бұрын
Love the Walmart joke. I have also noticed there are a certain kind of people that like to hang out in Walmart parking lots at night out here in Texas for some reason. Weird.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
Oh bud, its the same way in Ohio for sure
@donaldperrotta8514
@donaldperrotta8514 Жыл бұрын
I’ll stick with my bisque color GE electric coil range that I purchased in 2005
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 Жыл бұрын
Informative and comical.
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 Жыл бұрын
All things considered, induction is the way of the future. They are cheap to make, ignoring market forces for the moment. They are wicked fast and don't spread the heat. Temperature is controlled with quick on and off cycles through the very accurate thermostat. It blew my mind I could hold a small cast iron pan by the handle with my bare hand! You have to respect the maximum diameter of the element. Bigger pans and pots will warp if you're not careful.
@drewbrown9678
@drewbrown9678 Жыл бұрын
They fail after 2-4 years with frequent power failures of the grid, and cost a lot more to make and repair. Mechanical machines are way more reliable than computer controlled induction models.
@brandongabos3799
@brandongabos3799 Жыл бұрын
You make a good point regarding their method of heat transfer, which is surely one of the primary draws to the induction cooktops. Though I’d like to add that they can be a total pain to service and repair. They have multiple control boards which makes troubleshooting difficult, and those boards are costly which can make the repairs expensive. So there are pros and cons for sure.
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 Жыл бұрын
It's still very early days for the technology. (In the work I'm familiar with,) VHS decks made between 197x to about 1986-ish were chock full of circuit boards, beefy mechanicals, lots of parts. The final types of VHS decks just before they ended were very reliable and practically hollow inside. Integration comes with time. They'll be like toasters in about 15 years. Regards.
@shanewilliams4603
@shanewilliams4603 Жыл бұрын
@@drewbrown9678 That's because the place the computer circuitry too close to the heat. If they move them(and the controls) OR better insulate them then they'd last longer. Though knobs to turn on the heat instead of didigital could work as well.
@rogerstlaurent8704
@rogerstlaurent8704 Жыл бұрын
@@shanewilliams4603 I give you a HUGE THUMBS UP Yes move the Computer Circuitry to a cool place BUT NO in just a few years the stove will just burnout or you can just spend another 2 to 5 grand on another stove in a few years TY Shane for saying that
@TheBeeJunkie
@TheBeeJunkie 7 ай бұрын
Great Video, but you cant pressure can food with the the new elements - I will keep my old stove for sure!
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk 7 ай бұрын
You could always keep a spare element on hand to swap in/out for canning. They're all the same connectors.
@NA245th
@NA245th 11 ай бұрын
With all the regulations, laws, rules and such, why are lawsuits still filed daily?
@davestvwatching2408
@davestvwatching2408 Жыл бұрын
In the 1970s to 1990s stove manufacturers had different levels of burner quality. If you paid more, the burner had tighter coils. New coil tops are the bottom of the line product. (Though much more likely to work than any Samsung product)
@djsanctus1650
@djsanctus1650 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Totally the Donut of home appliances 😂 Any chance you can do a video series on your top 5 picks for appliances in different categories? I think a repair man’s opinion on the best appliances to buy would be super valuable.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I did make a video on that about a year ago. I'll update that one before the end of the year, but I plan on making a video focused wholly on dishwashers, then stoves, then again on all the major top ones to consider.
@peterinbrat
@peterinbrat Жыл бұрын
Do they have this for induction cookers? I left a pan on once and it was glowing red in less than a minute.
@TVhyrus
@TVhyrus Жыл бұрын
Im not sure how they would implement it since the pan is what gets hot and not the stove
@brianperkins6121
@brianperkins6121 Жыл бұрын
Most induction cook tops are able to sense (read) the temperature of the pan itself. not surprisingly they also sense and turn off with no pan present . as there is no inductive object above the induction coil.
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of any sensors on induction units that would prevent the unit from operating. The general induction trade off was/is that they won't heat up at all w/o a pan being on the induction coil.
@Rusty-Brown_
@Rusty-Brown_ Жыл бұрын
VERY GOOD VID !!!!!!
@CompetentSalesUSA
@CompetentSalesUSA Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheLoneWolfling
@TheLoneWolfling 8 ай бұрын
The major issue with these is they assume that ~450F _at the center of the burner_ is sufficient for everything. Unfortunately, this isn't always the case, and many of the arguments of "you shouldn't need more than 450F" miss that a stove is a thermal gradient. 450F at the center of the burner != 450F everywhere in the thing you're cooking.
@aaronstollings
@aaronstollings Жыл бұрын
Do glass cooktops have the same heat limitation?
@mwj9080
@mwj9080 Жыл бұрын
As of now, no.
@aaronstollings
@aaronstollings Жыл бұрын
@@mwj9080 Thank you! That’s good to know!
@mwj9080
@mwj9080 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronstollings no problem!
@RonHelton
@RonHelton Жыл бұрын
"left-handed cigarettes" LOL LOL
@bensappliancesandjunk
@bensappliancesandjunk Жыл бұрын
I had to make the tough choice of what to call it... Was going to go with jazz tobacco or giggle grass but decided on left-handed cigarettes at the very end.
@GaMt13
@GaMt13 8 ай бұрын
They will be coming after my fireplace.
@covishen
@covishen Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the new coils would work with my cast iron cookware?
@toddfischer9966
@toddfischer9966 Жыл бұрын
when do fridges explode?
@robertvela7844
@robertvela7844 4 ай бұрын
great job!
@debeeriz
@debeeriz Жыл бұрын
in some ways l think they could be more dangerous, if you lift a pot off and the element turns off and you dont turn the knob to off, if you place anything on the stove on that element eg breadboard, instsant pot it will turn the element back on resulting in a fire
@toddt6730
@toddt6730 Жыл бұрын
How about the stove with the solid disc
@hotpuppy1
@hotpuppy1 Жыл бұрын
Slow to heat and hard to control once hot.
@cyrysvonnachtseite4546
@cyrysvonnachtseite4546 Жыл бұрын
A basic contact. Element will not activate till a pot or pan is placed Cannot generate the heat. Yes i see how it can be bypassed
@steveolive9991
@steveolive9991 Жыл бұрын
Good info. But if this video for entertainment purposes only, does that mean I show this video at a bachelor party????
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