Why Your Royal Enfield Meteor 650’s Oil Level Is Critical

[@639viablecarrot]

Couldn't be clearer, thanks for sharing. Just checked my Classic reborn and that also states fill to MAX 👍🙏

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Thanks Bob, as always 🙏

[@sylring3646]

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thanks both of you. I have a Classic and a super meteor, and didn't see that. I checked on my both motobike and the level was to the max. good :o)

[@scottbieber1731]

WOW! That's a nice looking Vulcan S! Can't wait for that review!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

5555. Yes Scott. Another week or so and it will be out. Thanks again 🙏

[@markchalupsky2336]

I have a Kawasaki Vulcan 650 and it is an awesome bike!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

@@markchalupsky2336 yes. I was taken away also 🙏

[@MeAndMyRoyalEnfield]

Another great video. Thanks for caring & sharing.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Thanks. One of my early videos. But still very relevant 👌🙏

[@kevindarkstar]

Personally I'd have all engines at the upper level mark to ensure sufficient lubricant to all parts of the engine including the gearbox and clutch, no ifs or ands

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

👌🙏

[@doughoffman9463]

Why is it "unusual" to fill an engine, car or motorcycle, to MAX level? It has been my standard practice for 50+ YEARS. Of course I don't worry if the level drops below max as long as it is at or above min. Unless of course the Owner's Manual tells me differently as you have pointed out for the SM and some INT650 and GT650 models.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

I’ve always been taught to be a half way man, as too much oil can be just as damaging as too less. The reason I’m pointing it out is because on my last RE service and oil change, they only filled my level to half. If the RE service technicians don’t know, I’m sure many others don’t too.🙏

[@doughoffman9463]

@@Teacher-T-Thailand If what you say (the way you have been 'taught') is the correct procedure, then why isn't the MAX level indicator at the half-way point? Sorry, but I have to disagree with your teachers. (Obviously overfilling is never to be done.)

[@kevindarkstar]

​@@doughoffman9463I agree with you on this one, there is a maximum and a minimum mark for a very good reason, and I personally think that the supposedly different manual instructions are just down to translation or interpretation, bottom line here when changed it should be at max, subsequently it might drop a touch but as long as it's not below min it's OK, however I'd top up if that was the case 👍🏻

[@yossidaniel76]

thanks for sharing excellent explanation, we learned something new

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

I had to get it off my chest. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@TurbonicSpyder]

If anyone was wondering, BS in BS VI is 'Bharat Stage', Indian version of Euro emissions standards. Well, with how things are going, the explanation shown here also applies hehe.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Thank you for that 😂🙏

[@89RASMUS]

I'd guess this is more of an afterthought from RE rather than a design change of the engine. There might have been a few cases where oil starvation has caused premature wear to the engines, so they simply changed the recommendations for the oil reading to prevent further mishaps. You will not ruin any engine by filling the oil up to max level. There is still plenty of safety margin. It could also just be a simple typo of sorts in the owners manual.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Certainly not a typo. In their own maintenance videos they are also recommending max level. Like you say a revision of levels. Easier to change words in a manual, rather than recall every engine 🙏

I’ve got interceptor 650 and I can’t wait to swap it for a Super Meteor 😂❤

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Good choice 🤣🙏

[@JW-ym5yb]

I’m in the fill to what the manual says paying attention to hot versus cold checks.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Unfortunately my manual was in Thai. And my RE dealer was only filling to,half way. 🙏

[@ChadWinters]

So the maximum level is the minimum level?

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

If you have a BS6 engine yes. Check your manual please. But if your bike is under 2 years old, then certainly yes. 🙏

[@rover100bunson]

just to add to the confusion my manual, which says close to max, doesn't say bs6, on the front it states euro5, so i think euro 4 may be bs4 and euro 5 may be bs6, you can tell the difference between euro 4 and 5 by the ecu under the seat

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Ha ha. Yes that does spice things up a little. Just out of interest were your oil levels at max or not?

[@Kamarov2090]

BS6 is equivalent to EURO 6 and as far as i know india never had an equivalent to euro 5 so its probably a euro 6 engine in your bike either way best practice is to follow the directions in the instruction manual

[@morgan.enfield]

@@Kamarov2090 Euro 6 doesn't exist for bikes, only for cars. The max for bikes is Euro 5.

[@Kamarov2090]

@@morgan.enfield oh i presumed euro 6 applied to all vehicles sold in europe like how bs6 applies to all vehicles sold in india

[@sanjaysharma-jf8fv]

See we also know that 3.1 litres has to be put in that engine

[@lancerbiker5263]

I'm convinced 🤓 Cheers 🍻

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

😂🙏

[@corneilcorneil]

Looks like they need a larger(wider) oil volume in the bottom pan, so a running oil pump don't suck all oil in the engine and drops that oil level so hard. Imagen when you go on mountain roads and lean most of the time... Same principe with a pond and waterfall. If you have a small lower part, the level will drop drastic once you start the pump because all the water is "up".

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

It’s a well proven engine. I just think they are learning from experience, and upped the levels to save any potentioal problems 🙏

[@adalbertosalce3903]

Thanks a lot!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Welcome 🙏

[@PakoylaSuperMeteor]

Fantastic!!! Very thanks!!!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

You’re welcome 🙏

[@MichaelNika-x8z]

This is wild. My 2021 Interceptor manual (Euro IV) doesn't say BSIV/VI on cover. But it does specify level should be between Min and Max. I wonder what the difference in BSIV/VI engine entails? Is it possible that engines are the same but RE changed recommendation based on real world use/feedback? These engines are known to be pretty tappety, even when in spec.Maybe higher level provides better lubrication to the top end?

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Yes I have less tappet noise now with increased oil level. But you should always follow your owners manual. Does your Fuel label on your tank say E5 or E10, or something different?

[@MichaelNika-x8z]

@@Teacher-T-ThailandMy bike didn't come with any sort of decal on the fuel tank (I assume dealer removed it?). I read that there's some kind of designation of BS4/6 on air filter compartment also. Admittedly I'm also confused as to whether Euro 4/5 equates to BS4/6. Also, I really appreciate you sharing all of this!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

@@MichaelNika-x8z So I take it you are in Europe? My bike only came with a Thai owners manual, and until recently after downloading in English , I was unaware of the correct oil level on my Meteor 650. It maybe worth an email to RE themselves to confirm. They replied to me quickly last time i mailed them.

[@MichaelNika-x8z]

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I'm in the US. I'd be interested in reaching out to Royal Enfield for clarity on this as well. Can't help be curious on what the change is all about! This wouldn't be the first time their manuals have caused confusion, though. Chain maintenance/slack measurement instructions, for instance.

[@doughoffman9463]

@@MichaelNika-x8z Just read the owner's manual that came with your bike and there is no confusion. Or simply always run at MAX level and you will be good for all situations.

[@hemantv.5409]

Thanks for such a wonderful vedio,my question is when I purchased Interceptor-650 it was bs IV and petrol was available bs IV now Petrol pump all over the country supplying bs VI .Now bike is bs IV petrol is bs VI definitely suffer and laid %is reduced due to pollution and now govt also adultering ethanol up to 10%.Now what you suggest.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Thank you for your comment. Nice to hear from a BS4 engine owner. I would suggest sending an Email to Royal Enfield. I am sure there would be a way to upgrade your engine from bs4 to bs6 with some small modifications. And then the fuel issue would be gone. I am sure the sulphur in bs4 fuel helped lubricate the engine. Please let me know how you get on please. 🙏

[@hemantv.5409]

@@Teacher-T-Thailand that is the core issue.I have also ask the dealer about this but he told me uptill now they didn't get any feedback from RE and now even more big issue is oil companies are adultering ethanol that is even more concern for me.Thanks for your valuable support.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

@@hemantv.5409 understood. But I would email Royal Enfield direct;y. The last time I did, I got a reply in less than 2 hours when I asked them about the Wingman. Local dealers or not as reliable. 🙏

[@markchalupsky2336]

Were you able to put the RE USB charger on the handle bars of your 650 meteor?

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Yes I did. Fitting video coming out on Friday🙏

[@abdulrahmanfarooqi2293]

In that case, for long rides we have to carry spare oil to refill on the go as the levels would come down, per kilometres. Do you have any record of how much will be burnt in how many kilometres!

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

From 5,000 km to 6,000km over the last week of max level oil, no drop in oil level.

[@sanjaysharma-jf8fv]

I use fully synthetic Motul 10w50. 5000 km ..no drop in level. If u need to top up, put centre stand pour 150 ml, check level Repeat if required.. If bike has good compression the 650 don't need top up.. Unlike my bullet500 that needed 150 ml after 2000km Oil changes 3000km

[@deveous_dave]

Does nobody read their owners manuals when getting a new bike? The new SM owners have mostly seemed clueless imo.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

That would include my dealer also then. Because on 500 km and 5,000 km service, and from new my oil levels have a,ways been at the half way point.

[@deveous_dave]

@Teacher-T-Thailand there was probably a memo sent that didn't get passed down. I could understand a random service department making the mistake, but not a dealer. Hopefully, your engine didn't suffer any damage or wear during this time. Wonder how many other services were done before they became aware.

[@RevQuads]

Royal Enfield needs to design a new sight glass for the new engine. The old sight glass on the new engine is going to cause many new engines to be damaged.

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

It’s cheaper for them to tell us to increase the oil level than to do that lol. 🙏

[@sanjaysharma-jf8fv]

3.1 litres is engine oil capacity

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

Pleas tell my Royal Enfield Service centre 😂🙏

[@paulturner7357]

Well done rgds

[@Teacher-T-Thailand]

🙏