Elite:Dangerous - Krait Mk 2 Vanilla Pirate Build

[@ZFPAkula]

BTW: The Krait Phantom has two utility mounts that are perfect for forward firing point defense.

[@nathanblades3395]

Interesting

[@rexiemus]

this makes me feel like I got ripped off with my cutter. Great Vid!

[@jack_k2136]

I appreciated you offering. Like Cmdr Exigious, you get right to the point in an entertaining way. I appreciate that you are not rambling on and on to make a point, well done!

[@jono7722]

Great video bud! More or less the exact build I started with after seeing your piracy vid a couple weeks ago.

[@darkestfugue]

ive been playing elite for a long time but never tried piracy, this vid makes me feel like giving it a go

[@sebxcore27]

I'll definitly try this :) bumping is kind of Raming the ship, still pirates style I'm gonna train these methods.

[@paybackstab]

Appreciate the video. I love hearing stuff like this so I have an excuse to make a new build with a ship I don't normally use.

[@shawnp6653]

Interesting! Never considered this 'profession'! Thanks for your time & effort to put this up.

[@captpugwash8915]

My compliments again Wiggy. The piracy mechanics have improved but I still don’t see why: 1) the collectors should’t work as long as the relative speed between the two ships is the same (we are in space after all) 2) why the hatch breaker should magically pass through shields: you need to get the shields down anyway and to me it breaks that “immersion” But what do you guys think??

[@WiggyB]

1 - Yup. This is silly. Particularly given that repair limpets work at any speed. 2 - Your weapons pass through the shields already so this doesn't bother me too much.

[@OldManPaxusYT]

GREAT video but i have no idea... what was all that bump stopping stuff for?

[@nightwolf1966]

On one hand, A very well presented video with great info, I Luv the Krait it's an awesome ship reminds me of a stingray, but on the other hand, this is the reason I fly only courier transport, Beware the phantoms that bring death from the black, fly safe commanders in this world and the next

[@eugeneschramm6029]

I'm absolutely agree. Pirates are real scum of our world. So honest cmdrs should build proper ships to make them extinct!

[@skydriver5709]

@@eugeneschramm6029 learn to fly with flight assist off. You'll have no back to be shot from.

[@TeddyLindsell]

Another great video Wiggy, personally I target their fsd rather the drives and tank any firing at me out ..I never did get proficient in bump stopping. So whilst I fully agree you don’t necessarily need engineers, you do need piloting skills . Great to see you’re still keeping those black sails flying Cmdr

[@WiggyB]

Have you had success with this after April? I've shot out the FSD on several ships and then blown out all their weapons - nothing. I spent half an hour with repair limpets and missiles systematically disabling modules on a T7. I knocked out everything other than the thrusters (including the refinery!) and it just kept on running. I've had one ship come to a voluntary halt since April but have never manged to repeat.

[@TeddyLindsell]

WiggyB ..I’ve been pirating in my alt novice account using a python, I found npc,s we’re jumping out before I could disable anything really, so I would follow them then often they would drop out into the star 🤬. The easiest success is with the small or medium ships ranked below dangerous otherwise I cannot tank the incoming fire out . So yes a limited success, I was lucky enough to pull a harmless T9 with over 200 diamonds, it was easy pickings, but when I tried an elite T7 I not only failed to disable anything, but took too much damage before he hi waked ..have you noticed they always hi wake and never low wake ? ..Having said all this , I’m pleased fdev have introduced or expanded this mechanic , but feel module sniping still isn’t what it should be ...I don’t have the internet connection to be a content creator, and this subject alone could be a good video for you to do Wiggy, covering the best sniping options post update and showing how it can be done ?. ..o7

[@WiggyB]

You can follow them to the star. Just make sure you do not interdict until it is clear that they are not going to drop out of SC at the star. If they hit the star during an interdiction you will have lost them. Once they drop, simply target the low wake marker and drop in once in range. The ship will be waiting for you. Be careful not to hit the star's exclusion zone while travelling to the wake marker.

[@TeddyLindsell]

WiggyB , yup a noobie error and impatience got me a couple of times and got myself sucked into exclusion zones ...luckily without too much damage

[@turriffterror3881]

There is an alternative for those that can't get the hang of bump stopping. Disable shields & thrusters as per the vid, close to 5/600m, match target speed, launch 5 or 6 hatch breakers. Then break off and collect your loot. You will get 25/30 tons of LTD's per interdiction which quickly adds up as you are interdicting all the cargo ships + AspX's + Kraits + Pythons.

[@norcalstrangler]

Very interesting idea! I'm going to try today.

[@markhanson5031]

Dang....what a pain in the ass to stop an adrift shit. Personally I think a frame shift interdicted should double as some sort of tractor beam to slow or stop a ship. If an Interdictor has the power to pull a ship out of Supercruise going faster than the speed of light, surely it has the power to tractor beam a ship in normal space

[@sidkirby7446]

Fire groups and how to use them would help alot of new players like when to use limpets

[@gentleman_waffle]

How many limpets do you normally bring?

[@Kilonovae]

I really need to get better at combat. I keep dying quickly in my somewhat engineered Krait Mk2. Sheilds pop and then my hull melts.

[@terribrad24]

un-engineered, normal multi-cannons for shields? isn't that better for hull?

[@draconusspiritus1037]

I find it easier to just drop into a Haz-Res, pick a target mostly at random. Just anything that is actively mining. Launch a hatch breaker and pick up whatever gets dropped. Running a manifest scan always sets the target running. And I'm lazy. Interdicting IMO is more trouble than it's worth. You can also scan the system (or the nav beacon) and look for Degraded Signal Source threat level 3. As long as the faction associated with it is not a pirate faction, you can expect to find up to 60T of assorted stolen goods you can scoop up and go sell. Most will of course be cheap stuff. But there's usually at least one ton of painite or LTD. Sometimes some silver or gold. DSS level 3 associated with a pirate faction generally has nothing but low level mats, maybe a private data port to scan, and a low level pirate in a cheap ship who seems to think he is all that.

[@cmdrmaskime]

Why do you use cinetic weapons for shields ?

[@WiggyB]

Low distributor draw. But mainly because I hate the sound that pulse lasers make!

[@WiggyB]

I usually engineer my multis with the incendiary effect to help against shields.

[@cmdrmaskime]

Indeed incendiary turns a bit damages to thermal !

[@destroyerofworldsnamedchan577]

@@cmdrmaskime 90% if I remember correctly could be wrong tho

[@flyingfree333]

Wouldn't the Python be superior since all the stats are basically the same but it has an extra size 6 optional for another 64 tons of cargo?

[@WiggyB]

You're absolutely right, the Python makes a great pirate. I've never tried using a Krait before though. I've been thinking of doing a side by side comparison of all the mediums... next video perhaps.

[@reesetorwad8346]

What he said with 1 exception: The Python gives you space for a 6A fuel scoop that fills up your tank in seconds, in case you're one of those weirdoes (no offense) that HAS to play in open, and wants a chance to laugh at somebody trying to (re)pirate your more-or-less hard earned diamonds. (They'd be tracking you across multiple systems with their precious little wake scanner, but eventually they'd realise "Aw crap, this cmdr brought a friggin' fuel scoop" and you could just laugh literally all the way to the bank.)

[@captpugwash8915]

WiggyB I would vote for the comparison vid for sure!

[@kornelodri9906]

A Python has more cargo space, stronger shields, stronger hull, a slightly more range but it's slower (boost difference around 12%), and a slightly lower jump range. The view might be better in the Krait. Not sure which one I'd take for piracy without engineering... :)

[@Neutronic01]

It’s mostly a matter of budget. The python is like 10 mil more than the Krait for one 6 optional slot.

[@dannyroe1697]

I need a build like this for Pve , what changes would you recommend for this ?

[@WiggyB]

? This was PvE.

[@dannyroe1697]

@@WiggyB haha oops, i meant for Bounty hunting etc, ive not gone though the whole engineering stuff yet so wanted a build i could use to get around that.

[@destroyerofworldsnamedchan577]

Do you have a bounty hunter version?

[@Oilcommunist]

Krait mk2 is good for pvp?

[@taijeronv]

Great video, you've inspired me to get into pirating AND in a Km2. Did you ever make that engineered build?

[@WiggyB]

Piracy isn’t as lucrative at the moment. I’m still searching for profitable systems and states after the last two updates. Still lots of fun, but not the cash cow it was before.

[@taijeronv]

@@WiggyB Not doing it so much for the cash just want to explore everything that interests me. Besides it's a great excuse to buy a Kmk2.

[@dougsie8791]

Why no fighter hanger in a cat 5 bay? and exchange a 3class limpet controller for a 5class?

[@WiggyB]

Why have a fighter in a pirate ship? You're not trying to kill the target, only disable it. As for a class 3 versus 5 limpet controller, that's a personal preference. The time spent looting isn't really all that high versus the time spent hunting. I find 4 limpets a good balance between speed and cargo capacity.

[@dougsie8791]

WiggyB oh ok, now i get it. i grouped piracy with slaughter. lol

[@avestator3763]

sooo about the bump stop... you align yourself with the vector of the ship, fly past it and then turn around to get the opposite vector. couldn't i just overtake the prey-ship turn myself at it and use the marker of a module and the target assistent to align myself with the vector? like fly past it, turn around, position myself that aiming assistant and targeted module align and then let the ship bump into me. Or am I missing a crucial point?

[@WiggyB]

You can, but it is very difficult. Using these techniques makes life much easier and speeds things up as you are very close to being directly in front before you start making minor adjustments. For the first bump the ship can be moving well over 200m/s and tends to simply zoom past when I try and take shortcuts. The techniques presented give me the quickest and most repeatable results. I'm sure you'll find something that fits your flying style. Have fun.

[@avestator3763]

@@WiggyB thanks! Didn't thought about that

[@sebxcore27]

@@WiggyB Hi, I really like your videos, but I apologize because I'm not a native English speaker and no french video about that bumping techniques. What do you call Pitch and yaw? (I play with a HOTAS) but I maybe misunderstand but when you demonstrate the FA OFF method on the second flip the way I understand it is I have to do a 180 flip without using Pitch or Yaw but just using vertical thrusters I don't get really get how that is possible, Am I missing something? I've been out of the game for almost two years and before I just blew up the power generator but it seems that now it doesn't work anymore, so I found your video and since I didn't do much engineering and I don't like powerplay and so I don't want to farm to get the enforcer and I like the idea of the bumping method it's like Raming the ship to stop it, it's kind of pirate style.

[@WiggyB]

@@sebxcore27 The flip does use pitch. Aim for your own thruster trails to ensure you have turned 180 degrees. AFTER you have completed the flip, you should be facing parallel to your target's direction but not in line with it. ___ ¯¯¯ Use vertical and lateral thrust to move the target back into your sights without pitch or yaw. --- --- You should then be directly in front and bumping is easy. Give it a practice, you'll get the hang of it. I hope that helps!

[@sebxcore27]

@@WiggyB Thanks a lot, I gave it a try but was not able to bump it hahaha, but I found only T6 can't find any type 7 or type 9. I search for system with agriculture economy anarchist or not but even for T6 it was rare I might miss something.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

I just started the playing the game a few weeks ago and I've almost saved up enough money to get the Krait. I was wondering: Is this a good build for (relative) beginners? The bump stop technique seemed quite complicated (to me at least)

[@WiggyB]

Bump stopping is challenging but fun as a result. If you find yourself damaging your targets too much, bring along a repair limpet to patch them up. As for spawns, piracy is rather different since this video. You now need to find industrial only systems without rings or asteroids. Second economy cannot be extraction or refinery either. Places like Frog work well when in boom. The Elite Pirates thread on Reddit has a full list of system. Hope that helps.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@WiggyB Thank you! But, like, would you recommend this for a beginner? I've done a fair bit of Bounty Hunting. Does that prepare me well for piracy?

[@WiggyB]

@@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa If you are competent at taking down ships and can use your vertical thrusters - go for it. Many miners come with mine launchers, so you have to fly with a little up or down thrust to avoid trailing directly behind. Get the hang of that and you should be good to go. Have fun.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@WiggyB Thank you so much!

[@BL1P]

Hello, Excellent video. We are playing as a group of Pirates and when 1 player in the wing enters the instance with a disabled ship already in it. The ship will start flying and jump away (without drives or Power Disrtro). Do you know of a way to stop this happening or is it just a known bug for disabled ships and instances in Elite atm ?

[@WiggyB]

This bug has been around for years sadly.

[@twisted_lokiunforgivenking9208]

Have you tested blowing the plant to stop the ship and then taking the drives? I've been meaning to test this myself but just got back to the bubble from a long outing from the Witch Head and Flame Nebula regions..

[@WiggyB]

Sadly that doesn't work anymore. It used to be the main play, now the NPCs behave just like player ships. Power drops to 40%, several systems shut down (usually shields and weapons) but they keep moving and can jump out. For an alt strategy, you can blow out the FSD and all of the weapons. Sometimes they surrender at this point, but it's not reliable. Drives really are the way to go. o7

[@twisted_lokiunforgivenking9208]

@@WiggyB o7

[@Sir-Complains-a-Lot]

the only thing realy missing is where to even find those fat ships ladden with the heavyest of gems.

[@Voltage256]

How do you play in 3rd person?

[@MrBlockyTV]

Sadly only every 1/5 is even close to beeing stopable the second round of seeker rockets accelerates my pray to about 365 and doing a bump stop at max boost speed of 375 is near impossibile

[@WiggyB]

MrBlockyTV Missiles don’t change the target’s speed. A few days of practice and you should be able stop T7 and T9 without difficulty. Stopping and then accurately matching direction is the critical element.

[@MrBlockyTV]

Yeah T6 T7 and T9 are fine but diamont explorers seem to accelerate after getting hit by rockets

[@Robd515]

Hey WiggyB, thanks for this video. I’m going to get into piracy even if it doesn’t pay off as much as mining. How much would you say I can expect per hour? I’m relatively new to the game, but have 100+ hours already. Anyway, what exactly is this force weapon you’re talking about ? How would I use that? Thanks again

[@brunoks6951]

Did someone try using concusive mines to stop a ship? Never tryied It, just asking?

[@WiggyB]

I've tried it, but it's super hard. The target's drives restart too fast to exploit the shutdown reliably. I'd love to hear about a successful method if you find one!

[@bbrandonh]

Is there any reason this wouldn't work with a python? I have an extra and the extra optional internal seems like it would help out

[@WiggyB]

The Python is great for piracy. Pity there's not much to loot at the moment.

[@Raikoma]

why do you need the wake scanner?

[@WiggyB]

If you pirate in non-anarchy systems, you need to interdict then wait until the ship jumps. Repeat until they end up in an anarchy before pirating. If you don't the cops will disturb your looting. The wake scanner is required to tail the target between systems.

[@captpugwash8915]

Sorry, forgot another question: did you try this build against a T9 with a fighter? I tried with a phantom and failed miserably 😬

[@WiggyB]

I interdicted several. The T9 in the video had I fighter bay I think. For some reason they tend not to launch them. As to killing the fighter. Use missiles. I tend to destroy the target's drives so they don't jump, roughly match my speed and direction then hit FA off and drift with the ship. I am then free to turn and pop missiles at any wing ships or fighters without the main target heading out of sensor range.

[@captpugwash8915]

WiggyB thanks for the tips, I’ll try again, if I ever make it back from Beagle Point!

[@happyshrapnel1234]

assuming this is done with mouse & keyboard as Hotas would result in too much unintended role or yaw.

[@WiggyB]

I use an Xbox Elite Controller. Works fine. You should be able to set up your vector and then take your right hand off your HOTAS. Move down, and boost past in a straight line. Once you are FA off, yaw isn't a problem as it won't change your motion. All you have to do is make sure you're ship is pointed roughly at your thruster trails when you re-engage flight assist.

[@kebman]

I use m&k. Yaw is usually weak in Elite, while roll is insane. That's why I've stripped it from the mouse controls, and simply relegated it to A and D, with Q and E for trucking left and right and R and F for up and down pedestal/elevator. Yes, you can probably limit the strenght/acceleration, but I found it _way_ too fiddly to use the mouse for both pitch and roll _and_ yaw at the same time. This is kinda the same setup I use for choppers in Arma 3 too. Anyway, please tell me if you know of a better way. These things aren't set in stone.

[@RadarG]

I love your pirate builds. I tried to make a good multi crew pirate ship for me and my friend. Can you please make a good video?

[@azuphenehimself252]

Kinetic for shield ? 🤯🤪

[@WiggyB]

Miners have light shields. Kinetic allows for low weapon distributor draw and more pips to engines. Lasers are a pain in an un-engineered build.

[@birkinstv4565]

ty :)

[@rbrtctln]

OUCH... "Wake scanner... D rated the part to save weight." That's where you lost me Wigg. Util Scanners all have the same weight. The only difference is in power draw and scan range.

[@WiggyB]

Well spotted. You don't need anything better than a D rated part though.

[@tsw2scotland341]

Really crap now how you can hardly find a ship with LTD anymore fdev are slowly but surely killing the game

[@sc0or]

This is too complicated. I used to grab diamonds with my Cutter. All you need is full set of shield boosters and the weakest laser to attract victim's attention. Then you must stop. Completely. Then the victim stops above and behind you, and you can freely send a breaker limpet. Job is done. The victim won't move till the end. Cutter's shield is strong enough to withstand all Types, ASPs, Pythons, Kraits, Cobras, etc. But! This gives absolutely unstable income. You can catch T9 and T7 one by one during 15 minutes, but also no marks during a whole hour with relogs.

[@WiggyB]

dshchurov I have a video on that shield tank tactic from years ago. It no longer works.

[@sc0or]

@@WiggyB Hm. Interesting. How long has this not been working? This spring I used it yet.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

And they broke it. Piracy is completely broken and worthless now.

[@GomezAddamz]

Gah, I really wish they'd add third person perspective. It's the only reason I've not gotten into this game more. Grinded out a billion credits and just stopped playing. Odyssey looks promising but without third person perspective I'll likely not play because of getting annoyed with forced first person perspective.

[@WiggyB]

You can actually fly and fight in third person using the debug cam. It's quite good fun. I do it regularly for video segments, and also just for shits and giggles when I'm bounty hunting. The downside is that you can't tell if your shields are about to drop, or if you're overheating, or where the enemy is if you lose sight of them. Give it a go.

[@GomezAddamz]

@@WiggyB I have it's just not the same. Like you said. The display information is important.