Wild Court Moments

[@LUTfam4]

That 911 call was like listening to your child when they're rambling on about how they played their Minecraft game for 3 hours, and they don't know how to describe anything, but they also never stop talking. If you know, you know.

[@susancham4632]

omg . . . PERFECT ANALOGY!!! 🤣

[@xvgwhalevvs.diamonds3281]

Lol. I've clicked on clips of minecraft a few times just clicking through stuff on youtube and twitter, and even looking at it I have no idea what's going on or how the game works at all or what it is they're trying to do, so I can't imagine a child trying to explain it since makes no sense even watching someone play it

[@BeverlyDurant]

Frikkin PERFECT comparison!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Shazbat5]

"I was on 94, I hit a lot of 94". Blackout drunk, but she remembers she wasn't the driver.

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

..and admitted to driving on the 911 call. If the cops arrest someone for driving under the influence w/o a field sobriety test, BAC report or blood test nor witnesses who saw her driving erratically and/or crash, the state can't prove it's case so why bother to arrest her? Criminal cases are meant to be a wake up call as they are time consuming and expensive if you have the 'means' to pay for your own defense attorney v a state provided one at taxpayers expense is only gonna get you a deal from the DA$ office to plead to something as we have a 2 tier system ~ 1 for the rich and poliTICally CoNNected citizens and the poor noBODY gets the SHafT

[@supercaulin]

That 911 call had me so lost I had to pause my game to make sure I wasn't the one with brain damage.

[@SongSingsSoprano]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rm5887]

there is a saying as pissed as a chook ... I would say this chook is as pissed as you get and still cluck

[@rlj615]

I did the same thing lol. It made me look back and say "This isn't making sense." Got me dying in the dungeon over and over again in Diablo 4 lol.

[@bobknobbe3561]

nope its you

[@bonniehudon2938]

She was driving

[@BrendaLaffoon]

How pleasant everyone’s life would be without the intrusion of alcohol. Poor police officers, dealing with the drunk and disorderly.

[@jerryantaya1266]

Crazy how she remembers perfectly every detail that helps her but doesn't remember anything else the entire night.

[@PneumaNoose]

Have you never dealt with someone drunk before? They remember certain things and other things they’d never know happened unless someone else told them. What I find unbelievable is that no one is even considering what she’s saying could absolutely be true. Something similar happened to me (minus the car accident) when I was 22 where 4 army guys I met that night drove me to their house in my car from the bar. It was the house of the Officer and oldest of the group. He was going through a divorce and about to lose his nice house off base, so we all decided to continue the party there. I was excited to go because they said they wanted to play Rock Band with me because I played the drums. We were having a great time gaming while I sipped ONE beer (and I wasn’t super drunk beforehand or anything). The next thing I knew, I was waking up in a bedroom with 4 men taking turns on me. I left the next morning in my own car as it was parked outside the house. I walked out the front door with them laughing at me calling me a you know what when I really just wanted to play video games cuz I was obsessed with gaming and jamming out at the time (I went on to be a pro gamer for Gears of War). I was interested in one of the soldiers but had no intention of even having intercourse with that one. I thought I’d met some cool guy friends since most of my friends at the time were dudes (which is exactly why I ended up alone that night cuz my buddy left with a girl he met at the bar). At most, I was hoping for new buddies and maybe a spark between myself and the cute one I liked; and at the least, I thought it would be a fun jam session. I wasn’t supposed to be driving that night since my friend was my DD (and I was the only one with a working car between us), so they agreed to drive me home since one of the men claimed to not be drinking and he was the one who drove my vehicle to their house. Had he gotten into an accident in my car and was drinking, do you think him and his buddies would’ve stayed waiting for the cops, putting their military careers in jeopardy? Absolutely not. The reason I bring this up is because a young woman by herself at a bar is an easy target and with how drunk she was, the men she described could’ve easily been setting her up as a mark. When they crashed, of course he knew cops would show up so he ditched her. Granted I understand she could be lying through her teeth, all I know is that I was extremely naive and way too trusting of people when I was in my young and dumb stage. I didn’t break laws and I’ve always just been a good girl. Yes I wanted to party, but never once did I want to be the piñata for 4 soldiers twice my size. I went from being totally fine to being blackout “drunk” from sipping a beer at their house. Things like this happen everyday and it just blows my mind that no one is even considering her testimony as the truth. In my case, it’s my word against 4 soldiers (and soldiers are held higher than gold in this country). I didn’t even try to report them because I just knew I’d be attacked for going after those “fine young men” in a military town. It just really goes to show how cynical the world is and how we look down at young people going out to have a good time. She was drunk out of her mind and couldn’t even spell her own name. I don’t know how she could’ve even figured out how to even turn her car on. Furthermore, in my hometown, people say “I was driving” or “we were driving” when they mean they were riding passenger. The whole “I, I, I” argument is easily explained by common improper vernacular and her inebriated state. Again, I understand this is her saving her own ass whether she’s telling the truth or not, I just feel her story is still absolutely *possible.*

[@fantuckstic]

​@@PneumaNoose your experience isn't exactly like hers, though. She claims she was blackout drunk except for things that help her. She conveniently doesn't remember the 911 call but remembers the gas station clerk and exactly what was said. She only remembers pieces that help her. Those glasses were clearly female glasses. Not a man's glasses. I don't believe there were 2 men at all. I wish that the ADA had gone to the pub she was at and ask to see surveillance. I bet it would show her leaving by herself. She did what any racist white girl would do, blame it on black men and then insinuate that they drugged her, which would explain why she "blacked out". With that said, something similar happened to me, that happened to you. It was one guy though. I went to his place to play Guitar Hero bc it had just come out. We didn't drink. But I went over there with zero intention for sex. He raped me, all night long. And didn't let me go til 6am bc he had to go to work.

[@michaela6073]

@@PneumaNoosedo you know the name of those 4 men? Did you know before? Wouldn’t you want to find out?

[@PneumaNoose]

@@michaela6073 I want nothing to do with those men ever again. This was like 15 years ago and I truly didn’t even remember it until I watched this video. I had blocked it out for so long. My doctor told me once that it’s my brain protecting myself from trauma, but don’t quote me on that cuz I don’t see that doctor anymore. Anyway, I was very young and naive, my only concern was to get back to normal at that time. I have about 30 years worth of trauma I’ve yet to unpack, but I really have no desire to ever face my abusers. The thought makes my heart race and my stomach turn.

[@PneumaNoose]

@@michaela6073 I always get nervous when people confront me and say “why didn’t you turn him/them in?” The best response I’ve ever come up with is, “it’s not my job to save the world from the people who abused me.” I know that’s not noble, but I’ve learned the hard way that I need to just worry about myself cuz no one else is worried about me.

[@5urg3x]

An actual legitimate use of “I wasn’t driving, I was traveling” lol

[@SiGmund63]

I wasn’t driving or travelling: I was tripping

[@thepinkyprincesspoetc.a.5767]

My father worked for UDOT here in Utah for 43 years in the 70s 80s 90s in 2000s and investigated fatalities and accidents from the point of the mountain down to Nephi and he really saw some doozies. He died last year but I wonder what he would’ve thought of this trial, he was always taking photographs and back then he had to use the old big black suitcase of the Polaroid camera and then he had these little things in black tubes and you’d have to run them across the photograph after it came out in order to preserve it and seal it it was pretty wild…I miss him so much may he rest in peace❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@MisterPlanePilot]

That is amazing, sounds like one hell of a father ❤ I hope he rests well. Should have so many great memories 🥰

[@laurendelaine3]

The judge covering her mouth to hide her giggles during the 911 call was everything.😂🎉

[@Bangkonijntje]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you get a lawyer.

[@darthkreep5744]

Took the words right out of my mouth 😂

[@WilliamTaylorIII]

BEST $5,000+ she ever spent.

[@MrJbee73]

She got out of it. But I'm pretty sure she perjured. The prosecutor sucked.

[@jeremyhaimes2613]

This is how guilty people get off all the time. So what we have learned is just wander off and give some vague descriptions of someone else and off you go. Ah the justice system.

[@MrJbee73]

@@jeremyhaimes2613 and it's a lady.

[@HowtoLivewithaSmile]

Nice salute to the trooper's service. I sure appreciate these honorable, patient officers.

[@vjcodec]

He was very professional. But I hope he learns from this case to better document his incidents. Bodycam would have been great here. And his interpretation of the intoxication of the suspect was also lacking.

[@stevemcintosh6711]

@@vjcodec His manner was professional, his investigation not so much, it was his failure to properly do his job that got her off the hook.

[@maryschierberl3017]

user xd5js4wb4d....I completely agree with you!❤ I do not know how these officers keep so calm! I would probably not even last a hour Lol ,They get so disrespected some of the things people say to them is so AWFUL..It's really unbelievable. I appreciate them also and believe they should be paid so much more.❤

[@andreagiffin6278]

@@stevemcintosh6711I wholeheartedly agree.

[@a.walters123]

The 911 operator said “okay that makes zero sense, I don’t know what you’re saying” She doesn’t know what she’s saying either, sir 😂

[@mulletknee]

Was thinking the entire time “prosecution has the burden”. Although improbable, it’s plausible. Wonder if prosecution figured it was “cut and dry” and too much work to get detailed forensics?Other outstanding questions for me: inward impact marks on hood and windshield looked like something hit on the outside while driving, could they investigate the sunglasses further for other dna or where they were bought, traffic or business cctv from the night or witnesses from the bar to verify she left with anyone?

[@decur8]

The placement of the seat in a totaled car makes

[@liyahli223]

14:06 "she was under the influence of something. Alcohol. Or liquor" 🤦🏽‍♀️😂😂😂

[@lisajeter9511]

Gotta Love the infamous “Black man “ again!

[@Doxwife]

When I heard the Trooper say that, I LITERALLY rolled my eyes AND head…

[@daCubanaqt]

Right! The mysterious black man did it excuse is alive and strong!

[@LeslyeMcCulloch]

If a black man was driving, the seat would have been laying back, almost to back seat!!!

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

because EVEryBODY is afraid of the boogyman in the dARK

[@jaymarcase9737]

@@LeslyeMcCulloch😂😂😂

[@davidrosenlund7533]

The fact she walked to the gas station is miraculous. "Your honor I was not consuming alcohol I was drinking it."

[@markcopeland4448]

more like the alcohol consumed her.

[@GoodnightJLH]

We honestly don’t know for sure that she walked to the gas station. Someone could have picked her up then dropped her off.

[@Tindometari]

The prosecution really hit the shovel on this one.

[@xoxcandacee]

Debris

[@ceIIardoor]

🤣🤣

[@jwolf5604]

😂

[@ben1210]

They are pretty much in midst of a bunch of a mess

[@tincanboat]

I think she was trying to say shoulder of the road. not shovel

[@fredcarpenter1027]

The 911 call is absolutely priceless. Brought the genie out of the 🍾. She sounds like her blood alcohol was .40 . Love the 911 operator

[@shelveyphillipsbowman8037]

If there are records she hit her head I beleive her

[@TinkerBell-bt6vu]

That's what makes me think she either hit her head or she was roofied. She can't even spell her name or articulate where she is and her back was only 2x the legal limit. Something happened

[@apinxade7841]

And even rhiugh she told in herself in that call , she was stillmallowed to win this case! This is nonsense ajd clear priviledge if I ever saw 1

[@michaela6073]

@@TinkerBell-bt6vucouldn’t she just have been drunk and had a wreck? Did she have bezos on her blood test or did I miss if she took one or not?

[@TinkerBell-bt6vu]

@michaela6073 it's been a while since I watched this so I can't remember if she took a blood test or not. She admitted to being drunk as a skunk at the very least! But she was soooo completely out of if it that I think she was roofed or had head trauma from the crash. I dont think the cops even considered that at all and just saw a "drunk girl' which doesn't surprise me considering how bad they botched their investigation to start with. They didnt even do an investigation at all which was led to such a lack of evidence and one of the reasons she was aquitted. But they should have done a lot more tests at the hospital just seeing her condition at the time

[@kelsiismirliesmusic]

Does anyone else watch these things and think of 1000 additional questions that SHOULD have been asked?

[@mamadude505]

Did he ask her if she had been drinking before she went to the bar? If he did, I missed it.

[@beagoodhuman473]

Almost every time.

[@nataliew.g.5816]

1001

[@annaanon8419]

I think the Trooper should have been asked why he did essentially zero investigation on this. The law is if there are two reasonable explanations- the defense gets the win. That's how it's supposed to be. Trooper took no pics, didn't go to the bar to question the bartenders about who was there- maybe even get video? Didn't swab steering wheel or airbags for dna... And if that passenger seat was laid back, someone was sitting there and whiplashed. If there was a guy driving, but he hightailed it outta there, and she woke disoriented, drunk, and alone- she may have believed in her drunken state that she'd been driving when she made the 911 call. Beyond a reasonable doubt is not beyond ALL doubt. And ppl need to remember this on a jury bc that's how innocent ppl get sent to prison.

[@KingENDLESS]

I was wondering why the bar has no security footage.... surely there would be footage of her leaving the bar

[@jOIene_RN]

The officer is very professional and extremely intelligent. Good job with his testimony.

[@NotRedRobyn]

I’m really surprised the prosecutor didn’t make sure he had a copy of the report since that report is a huge part of the case. I’ve been a witness way too many times as a forensic nurse, and every time I met with prosecutors beforehand to go over my report, I also met with the defense attorneys for the same reason.

[@rodgersandrodgers8191]

Mike, you got me as a subscriber and I definitely enjoy your videos. There are well done. Well edited. And well commentated. I really do appreciate it and I am sure the thousands of people who view them also agree. You are one of the few reasons I am on KZbin so much. I believe I'm going to start binging your channel. Of course I put a like on every one of them and I'm going to start commenting even more, just to help more people view your channel.

[@Predreus]

With the defense going all in on saying someone she met at the bar was driving, why didn't the prosecution go to the bar and try to get surveillance video or talk to the bar staff to see if anyone could prove or disprove her defense.

[@smasher.338]

They may have. The bar doesn't have to give them video. I wondered why there wasnt intersection camera footage, but it may be a small town. There is also a possibility they DID see footage, but the footage exonerated her.

[@GoodnightJLH]

Bar footage wouldn’t be that helpful for the prosecution. It wouldn’t show her getting into her car. So I suspect they didn’t request it. It actually could have showed her sitting at a table with 2 AA guys so actually could have corroborated her story. Prosecutors and law enforcement usually look for ways to prove guilt rather than looking for ways to prove truth.

[@msjusticeamerica4362]

Totally agree...and if nothing else, to see if complaints had been made by other folks....🤬

[@imjustsomeguy72]

@@smasher.338 I think if there was that footage, defence would have sought it. And in any case if the prosecutor had evidence that was exculpatory they would be obliged to turn it over, or risk the whole thing being thrown out for violating due process. I don't the state would have felt the need to try and get anything like that, best case scenario it only shows her but would quite possibly leave open reaosnable doubt anyway, worst case it helps the defence.

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

It's prolly her 1st DUI so she's gonna get a deferred sentence anyway so why bother spending taxpayer$ hard earned $ to collect more evidence? The officer claims he only worked 1st shift at the time and his contact with the drunked driver was early in the morning as it was still dark outside .... cops customarily begin their shift @ 7am if their work 1st shift just as nurses do. If they pull a 'double' they work from 7a - 7p just as nurses do on 1st shift ... which is customary for most MANufacturing plants too that produce their end products 24/7 w/3 shifts ....

[@sarahteagarden9409]

Oh he’s a detective now! I hope his skills for documenting crime scenes are better!

[@spannymakronkeep8673]

He sure had tunnel vision on this case. He thought everything was so obvious he didn't button up all the angles. Sloppy.

[@kerrig9920]

Did he have body cam on 🤔

[@pamwasielewski5736]

The 911 operator needs a raise in pay.

[@TheDuke78]

I guess I'm not weird for being this way, but watching videos like these are way more interesting than any movie Hollywood ever produced. Maybe I'm with like-minded people on this stream.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@karenrynbrandt8559]

You can't make this stuff up!

[@awakeatdawnrae6456]

AGREED!

[@reginadrayton8374]

😁Glad I’m not the only one 🤗

[@SassyLinda]

I feel the same.

[@kathydavenport4422]

He is a great officer. Thank you for sharing great judge. Keep save and healthy.

[@neandorman]

This is the DUI equivalent of "those aren't my pants"

[@chineseworkethic9]

Coming from a drunk: "debris and shovel" meant gravel. Her saying she wasn't in a crash meant she was thinking that 911 was asking her if she crashed with another car. The timeline doesn't make a lot of sense but when you're drunk, you can still fall asleep after an accident. She probably passed out again and if there was a drunk driver, he would have had lots of time to leave.

[@Oreos_mommy]

Congrats Mike on 80k subs! I'm glad to say I've been along for the ride. It's been great fun and I know the road to 1 million will be even better! Love you Mike! 💋😚

[@paulvalenzuela8433]

Im taking full credit for that achievement. 😆

[@kimcrawford5247]

Congratulations on 80k Mike. It’s amazing how your channel has grown from your snowy red jacket to your LTWM zipper shirts lol! You even started your own clothing fad! Complete with fez and ascot! Seriously sometimes I do learn something and I am always entertained. Thank you for bringing us such interesting, humorous, and sometimes serious content. You help us to laugh at ourselves and definitely help us get through the stresses of our daily lives! Here’s to 100k and your first KZbin subscriber award plaque! It’s definitely on the horizon! ❤❤

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You 😘

[@terrilauer6685]

She'll get caught the next time

[@Nutnboujee]

Just recently found you!! I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! Your insight and intelligence is commendable!! Now gonna BINGE WATCH!!! I would have said “guilty” as well. This was a VERY FAIR judge! Thank you!

[@codysmackdown1]

I want to personally thank Mike for making my day and possibly year.... this hearing was the best thing I've ever witnessed. Not just your channel but KZbin period.

[@CanadaMatt]

"It is better that ten guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer" - Blackstone's Ratio. That's sometimes hard to swallow, but it's still a fundamental principle of justice.

[@jimwilliams4532]

Yeah it sucks

[@annabuckingham7285]

“For whom?” (: but yes I agree.

[@downfromtherafters1013]

Not in this this case doesn’t apply

[@darwinjina]

Why is it 10 ? Not 20 or 5?

[@dinahbrown902]

Yes

[@lyric2439]

This case is eerily similar to a case in Georgia where a young lady’s date called the cops on her because he claims she started freaking out suddenly. The cop that showed up and arrested the lady was a prosecution witness and as he was describing her behavior it was clear he was describing a drugging situation. The defense ripped into the cop and made him look like a complete doofus. The police never investigated the woman’s behavior and took her dates word as fact. The cop never requested the dates name or info, date was in the wind. Judge ended up tossing the case.

[@cgwalker7722]

Ohh man that’s crazy. Is this case online !?

[@miketyson1717]

​@@cgwalker7722 it was on this channel somewhere.. This case reminded me of that also

[@MayDa-ll7oe]

Which is why I said if the 2 guys were true, the lady was very lucky and could have ended raped or worse. She was talking and acting like someone date drugged.

[@GoodnightJLH]

I agree. It happened to a friend of mine. Stopped to grab a drink at a bar. Called her husband to say she would be home in a few minutes. Started feeling very woozy and remembered a man flirting with her in the bar. The next thing she remembered, it was 6 hours later and she woke in her car which was pulled over. She walked over to a parked police car to ask for help. And they arrested her for DUI. She believes she was raped then dumped with her car. The cops wouldn’t take her to a hospital. This was years ago so she didn’t have a cell phone. Charges were dropped. I assume that was because her BAC was low. They are getting a little better about doing a full drug screen on intoxicated people.

[@billyJasonMichael]

Aw you can see the trooper smile when the judge congratulated him! That was a sweet moment.

[@amandaadkins799]

Who's betting those are her regular glasses and the ones she's wearing are her spares? 😂

[@cynthiaprice3528]

I cannot believe the outcome of this trial; it makes me so angry at the system. The system fails us time and time again. The fact that the defendant was able to blame something she clearly did on a couple of black guys and create so much doubt that she gets off is beyond me. 🤷‍♀She clearly stated on the 911 call that she was driving, and she hit a shovel. It makes me sick because instead of charging her and giving her a DUI like she deserved, she gets to go drunk driving again. She was so drunk she doesn't even remember her 911 call. Who knows maybe next time she'll kill someone and then they'll charge her for vehicular manslaughter. It's disgusting how people are losing their lives to drunk drivers and we find out that the driver should have been taken off the streets long before they killed someone. 😡

[@vpierce3842]

It’s about the state not proving it’s case and the cop making an arrest w/out sufficient evidence which is probably why he’s no longer state trooper

[@vpierce3842]

They should’ve pulled a video from the bar she left. Everything is on cc cameras. In this day and age where cops cannot be trusted this wasn’t enough evidence

[@vpierce3842]

Not to mention the office, or not taking pictures of where the seat was

[@sashac5359]

I agree.. all these people commenting seem to have missed or ignored the defendant’s own words..

[@LuteItBe]

​@vpierce3842 There was more than enough evidence to make an arrest. Just because she wasn't convicted, doesn't mean the trooper did anything wrong. He had an extreme amount of probable cause. If he didn't, this wouldn't have even gone to trial

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

It was nice to see a whole trial from start to finish like this. I know it's very time consuming, but it'd be nice to get more like this.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@wendynabors7395]

@@LawTalkWithMike I watch your and other of your videos all the time. But this is one time that I have to step in. Have you ever been drugged , when you just wanted to got to a bar and just have time to relax? Have you trusted someone with your life and ended up waking up in a strange place not knowing what happened to you during the blackout? WELL this is really scary to ( Men and Women) that experience this. And the really sad part is they can be lucky that they wake up. Stop and think of something. If he HAD NOT wrecked she could be DEAD. There is a lot of what if's. That I alone can think of, but for people to make fun of someone possibly being kidnapped and etc... Have you Experienced It. It is Not Funny. Wendy Bless you. I really pray for you and your family to Never experiences anything negative. BB Take Care

[@cplusmcretired]

@wendynabors7395 Calm yourself... yes, she is lucky that she didn't die because she allowed two random strangers to take her home, she is also lucky to have not gotten a DUI because she was by herself and none of that happened. No one even alluded to her being kidnapped. You are projecting your fears onto this case. Let's say you believe every word she said. The worst you could accurately say is that she allowed two strangers to take her home. Anything beyond that is pure speculation and you are just making stuff up to make it seem more dangerous. Sure, she could have been roofied, kidnapped, and murdered... she also could have been swept off her feet by a multimillionaire and flown to Italy to live out her days in luxury. Both are equally plausible. Then to end your comment with some passive aggressive nonsense like, "I pray your family never experiences anything negative..." because he didn't believe her? Get a life. I don't speak for Mike, but if I did, I would say please unsubscribe, he doesn't need "fans" like you.

[@BamCoonRising]

@@wendynabors7395this is a court case. We watch/listen and base our opinions on the facts presented, not our feelings of all the “what if’s”. Conclusions based on feelings is not how our justice system works.

[@every-istand-ophobe6320]

It's actually very easy. ALL of these courts live stream almost everyday. It's not hard. You can even watch the full docket almost daily. Where do you think Mike gets these vids? All he does is stick his face in the corner of a court stream.

[@janwieck400]

At the end the trooper dropped the ball by not documenting everything with photos. She got away with it.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

He doesn't seem super prepared or ready to answer questions too. Yup, let this be a lesson to our law enforcement community. We're routing for you guys 💙

[@msdarby515]

I don't think she "got away" with anything. I think she was incredibly fortunate that she wasn't raped, that her head injury wasn't worse, and that the bad policing didn't ruin her life.

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

@@Claudia-lq3ns eh some of them. I’m not rooting for all of em, cuz often times they’re the ones perverting the laws for their own benefit. Had state troopers arrest my bf while sleeping in his car in a parking lot at 7am for DUI. Took $2,000 as “evidence”, case was dismissed, and when evidence was to be given back, only said he had $600, I said no that’s not right. Recounted it and said oh ur right there’s $800 here does that sound better?” Never filled out a receipt but said they counted it all in front of him, which they did not. Then told me “well he was drunk he won’t remember.” He was not drunk. I’ve heard the same experience from many ppl too. They can just arrest ppl to seize their money. Civil forfeiture is abused constantly. Working class ppl abused as a revenue source.

[@johnmarcey7176]

She incriminated herself on 911…she said she was driving and she crashed..judge is wrong.

[@msdarby515]

@@johnmarcey7176 She said a lot of things on 911 that were also complete nonsense. She clearly didn't know what had happened.

[@RESPECINIZEbcc]

Fan theory: she went to the bar at 12. Stated she drank with the two BMs for a couple hours. she stated she didn't feel well and wanted to leave the bar at 2am. Multiple calls to report accident around 6am. Officer was on scene at 630am. Driver's seat was pulled up, passenger seat was cranked way back. She also was on a highway she wouldn't take to get home and on the opposite side of her apartment from the bar. I think she left with 2 BMs at 2am, went to their place, had a bit of an after party, got eiffel towered for a few hours then tried to take a short cut through the woods on the way home. It's Elementary Watson

[@ItsBobbyBlTCH]

How does the phone call not sway the judge right there? She proclaimed SHE hit something like 10 times. She didn’t mention anyone else. That’s a rough verdict.

[@pennkeuka]

A defendant can not be convicted on a confession alone. That's the corpus delicti rule. There has to be sufficient evidence that the crime actually occurred.

[@Paparusty105]

If she was completely sloshed AND was reclining in the passenger seat then thrown into the windshield, her bell would have been rung big time which could have caused her to talk crazy🤷‍♂️

[@DowntownTasty]

There’s no hard evidence basically. The reasonable doubt comes in that she was just drunk and talking incoherently or hit her head. They didn’t prove anything. She may be swayed. But they didn’t prove it. Her being drunk isn’t up for debate. It’s whether she was the one driving. And she may have said she drove. But she was also talking about a shovel and couldn’t spell her name.

[@berryknobberry2465]

It boils down to their is a chance she wasn't driving. So if it's not proven without a shadow of a doubt, they can't find them guilty. Also, she didn't confess. The 911 call also stated that she didn't hit anything and she didn't crash. But she sure was quick to say there's nobody else here. Nope. Nobody. But you can hear a man talking in the background. Just my opinion.

[@Laxwisguy]

@@pennkeukathere was plenty. Her admission that she tried to move it after the accident. Even absent that, the seat was at her height. She was perfectly capable of answering all questions but who was actually driving.

[@jenm9099]

Omg, the 911 call is worth the wait, I am laughing my shovel off!

[@mamadude505]

It was the jewel in the crown.

[@tenmark7055]

Im surprised her defense wasnt "I was too drunk to walk so I had to drive."

[@msdarby515]

Wow......super clever comment.

[@a.walters123]

I actually have a lot of respect for the judge, it’s harder to look past your instincts and uphold your duty as a judge to enforce the law, she knew the woman had driven drunk, but it wasn’t proven within the terms required by our legal system.

[@KH-cg5wd]

NO WAY her head went anywhere near that windshield. 15 years ago, my best friend was the passenger in a vehicle hit by a drunk driver. Every bone in her face was broken (including her eye sockets). She was airlifted to Shock Trauma (one of the best trauma hospitals in the world), and she BARELY survived, after multiple reconstructive face surgeries. I went to see her car the day after, and there was a face mark impression in the windshield, but the (tempered) windshield glass was not broken through. No way this chick hit that windshield and caused that hole. That was a metal sign post (or something similar...like a SHOVEL).

[@davidsandlin9686]

I was a passenger in a car that got into an accident. My head hit the windshield and I got knocked out completely. By the time I woke up the police and ambulance was already there. I got out of the car and started walking home when the ambulance lady ran up and stopped me. I didn’t even know where I was or what had happened. I didn’t remember anything for like 15 mins before the crash. I had just left my house and apparently I thought oh I should go back home. The windshield was cracked but no hole.

[@smasher.338]

I was in an accident and my head broke the windsheild. Other than some cuts, and finding little bits of glass in my hair for a day or two, i was f....uhhh....wait what was i saying...

[@mariyaa111]

Wrong. I hit a tree doing 45 mph, flipped my minivan and WITH a seatbelt on, smashed my head into the telephone pole and didn’t have one broken/ fractured bone in my head! I did however have a deep wound in my head that required 22 staples. There are many different variables that have an effect on the outcome of the injury.

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

... is that when they 1st came out with cars made of plastic?

[@dinahbrown902]

Yep

[@nikit0r]

This case is really infuriating. I’m glad it had some comedic relief haha I am confused about why the picture and comments about the glasses were even allowed in though.. She took that picture later on, in her own.. Also, it seems like the prosecution took for granted that the case was in the bag.

[@prayas1673]

In her own what?

[@MrsBees]

@@prayas1673 i think that was suppose to be "on" her own

[@nikit0r]

@@MrsBees It was, thank you 😅

[@WilliamTaylorIII]

Pretty much any Defense exhibits are allowed, it is up to the Prosecution to question them.

[@onespoiledpup2019]

It is up to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt her guilt in the case. I think that the prosecutor did believe it was a slam dunk and just seemed to run through the trial...slow the heck down. He was practically running over the tropper as he was talking while testifying,

[@onthefive5615]

The broken seat back sticks in my mind because I've seen it before, even experienced it once myself. It jerks into that position when a vehicle slams into another car or solid object. The weight of a human body's forward momentum is abruptly reversed, still traveling at some speed. The position of the passenger seat is often seen after head-on collisions, and in cases of driver suicide resulting from driving into a tree or the solid structure of an underpass on interstates. If I recall correctly, in front-end accident crash studies that test auto equipment, including seatbelts, as well as seat integrity, BMW is the only auto manufacturer in which the seats do not fail. So I'm just offering this tidbit of info for whatever it's worth. Mild concusion is common even in low speed crashes, although the medical evidence has been confirmed only in recent years. That would of course compound confusion associated with drunkenness. Therefore, I would hesitate to laugh about how Christina spoke on the 911 call. A brief mini mental status test (8-10 questions) is a good early indication of cognitive impairment not from alcohol. All that said, I think she might indeed have been the driver, but I also agree with the judge that the evidence falls short of a guilty verdict, not even considering my remarks above. I'd sure like to know if there were footprints or other evidence of the man she said was driving and his cousin!

[@alicelaybourne1620]

My car seat reclines that far back, what make you presume it is broken?

[@Travisrogers87]

@@alicelaybourne1620 it’s not normal to drive with a seat in that position tho

[@JacaboBlanco]

@@Travisrogers87 it is if you're a cool gangstaaaa

[@MrsBees]

I don't think the seat was broken. It looks like how my seat looks when someone is tired and naps in the front seat. To your footprint comment... completely agree. It would be nice to know. But the lazy cop didn't even go to the scene, so no one will ever know.

[@msdarby515]

How do you conclude that the passenger seat is broken and evidence that someone was sitting in it at the time of the crash (I fully agree), but then conclude that she was driving?? Kinda hard to be sitting in two seats at the same time.

[@MsHoneyGaming]

Absolutely loving your channel, I have been listening to these cases while working during the day and it’s so good! Your commentary is great and at the perfect times letting us know what’s happening.

[@WilliamTaylorIII]

Without the Officer actually witnessing the person operating the vehicle it is really hard to PROVE whomever was driving.

[@hammerlane3871]

Well the prosecutor and investigators did such a bad job that her defense of 'well she says she didn't do it' was enough for a non guilty verdict. Like you have to almost try to do this bad of a job

[@GoodnightJLH]

@@hammerlane3871 Exactly. No one except the tow driver saw the vehicle at the scene. No pictures taken.

[@DEEPERSTATER]

You mean except for the defendant stating it was her driving 10 times...

[@mrsangelafisher]

She says it was her driving. Do they think she's lying?

[@GoodnightJLH]

@@mrsangelafisher The only time she said she was driving was on the 911 call where she was mumbling all kinds of gibberish. The judge threw that 911 call out because there was no way to tell which parts of what she said was true.

[@dianecheney4141]

She was that honest part of drunk that comes out sometimes. Her brain couldn't figure out how to maintain a lie

[@twinmomma1]

Her defense attorney was even shocked at outcome

[@rachfied66]

You could went and ask questions at the bar. Checked the windshield for hair or blood. Why never done?

[@brandonsherekhan2169]

I enjoy the channel. Previously I had only been watching Judge Middletons court and blindly searching for others. I really enjoy your guest attorneys, and there insight and opinions both legal and personal. Also got my mom hooked on watching you too.

[@markgado8782]

Mowgli says hi! 😉

[@samanthaschwartz2316]

All I can say is, I've had this happen before. I had borrowed my friends car and went to the bar. A guy I knew, a friends boyfriend (friend was out of the country with her dad) offered to drive my car because he had nit been drinking and I was terrified of a dui. I only had one drink but I was practically blacking out. He didn't crash the car, thankfully, we made it to my house, but his friend who was supposed to follow to pick him up never showed up. I let him wait inside, all I wanted to do was shower and go to bed. He tried to to get into my bedroom, so I locked myself in the bathroom and called my friend who lived on the other side of the duplex (whose car it was) and she came over and threatened to call the cops. If I had not had that friend there, I don't know what would have happened. When she came in, he was laying IN MY BED. I was horrified, I trusted this guy, we had hung out many times, I was in NO WAY interested or even could have given him a hint that I was. I know I was slipped something. Sometimes people are creepy and do terrible stuff to take advantage of a single female. Don't ever go to a bar alone!

[@KUEENOFKUPZ]

Come on I’m sure you or your friend knew the persons name though

[@aprilcole2916]

You realize that the "friend" who was supposed to pick him up after driving you home was NEVER going to pick him up.

[@PneumaNoose]

THANK YOU! Firstly, I am SO SORRY this happened to you. How absolutely terrifying. I’m glad you made it out okay from this situation. Please allow me to share my own story that I just shared on another comment… *My story in response to a cynical “selective memory” comment:* Have you never dealt with someone drunk before? They remember certain things and other things they’d never know happened unless someone else told them. What I find unbelievable is that no one is even considering what she’s saying could absolutely be true. Something similar happened to me (minus the car accident) when I was 22 where 4 army guys I met that night drove me to their house in my car from the bar. It was the house of the Officer and oldest of the group. He was going through a divorce and about to lose his nice house off base, so we all decided to continue the party there. I was excited to go because they said they wanted to play Rock Band with me because I played the drums. We were having a great time gaming while I sipped ONE beer (and I wasn’t super drunk beforehand or anything). The next thing I knew, I was waking up in a bedroom with 4 men taking turns on me. I left the next morning in my own car as it was parked outside the house. I walked out the front door with them laughing at me calling me a you know what when I really just wanted to play video games cuz I was obsessed with gaming and jamming out at the time (I went on to be a pro gamer for Gears of War). I was interested in one of the soldiers but had no intention of even having intercourse with that one. I thought I’d met some cool guy friends since most of my friends at the time were dudes (which is exactly why I ended up alone that night cuz my buddy left with a girl he met at the bar). At most, I was hoping for new buddies and maybe a spark between myself and the cute one I liked; and at the least, I thought it would be a fun jam session. I wasn’t supposed to be driving that night since my friend was my DD (and I was the only one with a working car between us), so they agreed to drive me home since one of the men claimed to not be drinking and he was the one who drove my vehicle to their house. Had he gotten into an accident in my car and was drinking, do you think him and his buddies would’ve stayed waiting for the cops, putting their military careers in jeopardy? Absolutely not. The reason I bring this up is because a young woman by herself at a bar is an easy target and with how drunk she was, the men she described could’ve easily been setting her up as a mark. When they crashed, of course he knew cops would show up so he ditched her. Granted I understand she could be lying through her teeth, all I know is that I was extremely naive and way too trusting of people when I was in my young and dumb stage. I didn’t break laws and I’ve always just been a good girl. Yes I wanted to party, but never once did I want to be the piñata for 4 soldiers twice my size. I went from being totally fine to being blackout “drunk” from sipping a beer at their house. Things like this happen everyday and it just blows my mind that no one is even considering her testimony as the truth. In my case, it’s my word against 4 soldiers (and soldiers are held higher than gold in this country). I didn’t even try to report them because I just knew I’d be attacked for going after those “fine young men” in a military town. It just really goes to show how cynical the world is and how we look down at young people going out to have a good time. She was drunk out of her mind and couldn’t even spell her own name. I don’t know how she could’ve even figured out how to even turn her car on. Furthermore, in my hometown, people say “I was driving” or “we were driving” when they mean they were riding passenger. The whole “I, I, I” argument is easily explained by common improper vernacular and her inebriated state. Again, I understand this is her saving her own ass whether she’s telling the truth or not, I just feel her story is still absolutely *possible.*

[@PneumaNoose]

@@KUEENOFKUPZthe woman in this case just met the man that night. This commenter’s situation wouldn’t require her to come to her own defense since there was no car accident. This woman possibly knowing the man’s name has no relevance to the woman in the video not knowing the driver’s name.

[@wxwatcher9315]

This is a fair and honorable judge. The defendant obviously acted foolishly, but we were given limited evidence that failed to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@sashac5359]

In the 911 call the defendant said herself “I hit” and never mentioned anyone with her. Wouldn’t that be proof?

[@hammerlane3871]

Week except for the 911 call, the whole seat being close to the steering wheel and the fact that she couldn't describe the guy she agreed to go home with..... it's pretty obvious she's full of shit

[@LuteItBe]

​@@sashac5359False confessions are more common than people think. Because of that, there is a principle in law that a confession alone isn't enough to convict

[@kimberlylozano2881]

@@hammerlane3871nobody bright it back up but the trooper said she had told him that she got into the driver seat too try and drive her car out. That would have been a good point for her defense attorney to use when arguing the seat being so close.

[@QuantumPowerSports]

This is a win. A fucking judge who actually does her job. Innocent until proven guilty.

[@decur8]

First defendant is guilty. We knew already she was drunk. But she admitted to driving when she said things like, “I hit debris” and “I was trying to get off the highway.”

[@QueenOfPeas]

As someone who would have loved to be able to become an attorney, I absolutely love this channel! Congratulations on 80k Mike 🎉

[@beulahboi]

I'm glad she didn't hurt anyone. I get so angry with these DUI people for personal reasons. It's good to enjoy this video knowing she's the only victim of her own stupidity.

[@hack_g]

my wife and best friend were killed by a drunk drivers so this video infuriates me

[@NavigatorMother]

Hear here... and as a retired registered nurse my heart goes out to you sir, losing your wife and best friend due to drunken driving- the waste, the heartbreak, the needlessness, the loss... I'm so sorry. So very sorry.🙏🏻🕊🪶🌹❤️‍🩹💐🌏

[@JustDiane71]

I have no sympathy for Drunk Driving, I never have. Everyone over the age of 5 knows when you drink and drive you can KILL someone BUT people do it over, over, over. My daughter, her boyfriend and another mother in a 2 vehicle were killed almost 5 years ago by a DD. He won't even serve the 10 years for each felony death (3), he's predicated he'll be getting out next year at christmas time or so, unless he's paroled in few months. It's disguising.

[@JustDiane71]

@@hack_g Very sorry Greg. Sending you love,hugs and healing.

[@msdarby515]

@@hack_g Why? There is zero proof she was driving. There is WAY more proof that she was not. I understand you have good reason to want to hold people responsible......but you should be even more focused on making sure only guilty people are prosecuted. I'm in a similar situation and my journey through this has led me to be as invested in making sure only people proven to be guilty are punished as I am that the guilty be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. There's no justice in locking up an innocent person.

[@just_passing_through]

So many things here concern me. Here in Australia, her failure to identify the driver is in itself a crime. She admitted in the 911 call that she was the driver. The police officer documented the seat position, but the judge states that his documentation is not sufficient. If she was able to see a photograph she would accept it. The judge ends with saying :Don’t get behind the wheel of a vehicle any more”. “Any more”, meaning you did it in this case.

[@TinkerBell-bt6vu]

If she just met the guy that night, then her inability to identify him isn't a crime. She may not have known his identity. It's gross to me, but these one night stands happen all the time. She admits to it in the call but then failed to know how to even spell her own name when asked, changed her mind about hitting a shovel, then debris, then not debris etc. She is so sloshed she doesn't know who she is or where she is or what is going on so it can't be taken as fact. I actually agree with this ruling. It was very shoddy police work and evidence gathering by police. I actually beleive this girl was roofied and the guy crashed and she woke up and had no idea what was going on. The only evidence she was driving was the 911 call but she can't tell you how to spell her name in that call so that can't be taken

[@aps-pictures9335]

Surely you could have got CCTV from the bar to see if she left with anyone too…

[@billygowhoop]

I agree with the judge's decision. It's frustrating but I think there's definitely a reasonable doubt. You really need to have some kind of witness or video of her in the driver's seat.

[@djvycious]

Mike congrats to 80k! You know, this case was an example of exceptionally poor investigation by the prosecution and law enforcement. I agree she was not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but the prosecution relied on the 911 call to prove the case. A few missteps to point out here: •There were no photos from the accident scene, so the position of the passenger seat and object in the car could not be confirmed •The prosecution did not consult the defendant's insurer to see if the defendant had claimed, and if their appraiser took photos •The damage included a large hole on the passenger side of the windshield. I would anticipate substantial injury to a passenger seated there. Why didn't the prosecution examine photos of the passenger seat? If the backrest of the seat had damage, that would be evidence no one was seated there •No photos of the object that penetrated the windshield •No security camera footage from the interchange cameras •The pub the defendant attended wasn't questioned about who she was with, or if she left anyone •The car's computer data wasn't pulled. Perhaps it could have recorded a passenger seated, or other data like doors opening. •The car wasn't fingerprinted for unknown prints on the steering wheel that weren't the officer's or towers. I'm not saying they should have done ALL of these items, or that all of these items would turn up useful info, but this was crucially missing, and at least may have proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@Scotty916]

Excellent points. There’s detectors not only for a seatbelt but also weight in the seat that would prove a passenger or not.

[@MrsBees]

I agree with this all and thought the same exact things. I was surprised the defense didn't ask about why the car wasn't fingerprinted to point out more doubt. The cop failed, plain and simple. He was lazy and they couldn't convict because of it.

[@shaneedaniel5125]

Fantastic points.

[@johntoney3217]

I can see the points about the photos because that is basic stuff but it's not realistic to expect fingerprints and car data to be pulled on a small DUI case like this. The courts in each state are slow enough and expecting DNA evidence in minor cases like this would be a disaster.

[@DaRkHoRsE-_-]

Shipwreck! ❤

[@JustaMomnFamily]

It wouldn't be a lot to talk with Mike without Mike being muted. I've been watching Mike for a very long time since he was a smaller channel and I love his little silliness that's what makes him mike.

[@rlynnstaab4456]

WOW! Didn’t think that was coming…great job Judge.

[@bethotoole6569]

She said it was two o’clock at night and she didn’t feel well… is she implying they roofied her? The accident wasn’t called in until 8am… that’s six hours time difference???

[@DianaBamaRN]

See my post. I speculated the same, hence the “I didn’t feel right” and the guy disappearing into his cousins car, not wanting to be identified with her being drugged. The 6 hour time difference could have been because they took her to their place or a hotel?? Then we’re returning her home.

[@crazyitalianlady5518]

Her reaction when that was mentioned tells me she may have a recollection of something else happening to her before the crash in that period of lost time

[@GoodnightJLH]

She’s absolutely implying that she was roofied and it’s certainly plausible.

[@jimwilliams4532]

​@@DianaBamaRNYeah they like the biguns

[@JB---]

"My client was absolutely candid about everything she remembered." OK, but she remembered pretty much nothing after she drank too much at the bar.

[@stephaniesaslut12616]

Or was drugged

[@LaLaLonna]

Oh she rememebered...the stuff that helped her case and she conveniently forgot what hurt her.

[@GuyChapman]

Trooper Reaume is doing a fine job here.

[@Demon-tl3ev]

The judge is asking better questions then the prosecutor

[@Demon-tl3ev]

Wow not guilty , she had a good lawyer

[@Trial_Junkie]

Absolutely the right ruling. We live in a country where the state has to PROVE your guilt and I’m very grateful for that.

[@Caseytify]

I just hope she doesn't drink and drive anymore.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

@@Caseytify I wouldn't hold my breath on that one...

[@smasher.338]

She seemed like she was either drugged or on drugs. It wasnt just alcohol. That or he was SEVERELY concussed.

[@pennkeuka]

The first element of the crime of dui is that the defendant drove or was in physical control of the vehicle. State didn't prove that.

[@hammerlane3871]

Lol so basically now every drunk driver that crashes their car just needs to get out before the cops show up and say 'well I wasn't driving' and they live to kill another day. This was 100% the dumbest drunk driving MVI ruling that I have ever seen. She got away with it this time which means she's gonna do it again, and next time it's gonna be people instead of a bunch of trees.....

[@AintSchabusiness]

I love that her attorney tried to defend her alcoholism with her taking the AA 12 steps. Someone who was an occasional drinker who was smart enough not to drive home wouldn't need the 12 steps.

[@LadyLikeLane]

What?!

[@Weirtoe]

When the 911 operator was talking to her, he asked if she was calling about the accident on 96? It must have just happened or he wouldn't have connected it. Also, interesting the court advised her "not to get behind the wheel of cars while you've been drinking anymore". Anymore

[@fieryweasel]

The prosecutor sort of flipped back and forth between "listen to the call and see how drunk she was, nothing makes sense" and "in the call, she said she was driving, we have to believe her".

[@jaihawkins]

Can we appreciate the defense's decision to go with a judge only trial? I'd wager if this was a jury trial she'd have been found guilty...

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

I’d like to have seen the outcome had this been a jury trial. She says she remembers leaving, remembers small conversations about driving home with “strangers” cousin following, remembers waking up from crash and going to driver side to turn on likes, remembers asking gas attendant to cal 911, but doesn’t remember even one second of speaking with dispatcher? I think that coupled with her using “I” several times and not once even slightly suggesting there was another party, while explaining the crash to 911, not one person in the jury would buy her story. But still, I think it would have to come down to what her lawyer argued, and the jury wouldn’t be able to find her guilty.

[@smasher.338]

Thats because the average person doesn't really go by "beyong a reasonable doubt". Most jurors think a persons guilty before they even hear testimony, they just think the persons obviously guilty because the cops arrested them. And even though there was no proof she was driving, because there isnt viedo proof of someone else driving, they assume it was her.

[@livingauthenticallyonmyownterm]

Congrats on 80k!!! I can see how because I love your show Mike! This was such a fascinating case. She was guilty. I like your point that the windshield could have been broken before or after. She was by a bridge. Some people love to throw rocks off a bridge and maybe they felt it would be funny to see a rock hit the windshield. Maybe something happened before that she had been in another accident and her passenger hit the windshield and her glasses went flying into the backseat. Those glasses looked to me like a women’s pair, not a man’s pair, but having said that, I have friends who would love those glasses. Thanks so much Mike!❤

[@justinaprima9495]

So if someone was driving her home, how did she tell him which way to go? Considering how drunk she was, she wouldn't be able to direct him.

[@courtneylightsalazar3063]

It's interesting her BAC was still that high after not having drank (allegedly) for 4 hours (assuming 2am to 6am) not to mention however much time it took to get her to the hospital...

[@GoodnightJLH]

Yes. She got to the hospital at 8. But we don’t know when the crash happened. Is it possible that some guy took her back to his place for sex before the crash occurred? BAC decreases at 0.015% per hour approximately so she was either 0.26 when she left the bar or went somewhere for more drinks after the bar closed. Lots of possibilities. It’s possible she was roofied. It’s possible she went home from the bar with a guy but didn’t want to identify him. And it’s possible she was driving.

[@ShannonK3884]

You know she muted that 911 call as to not be anymore EMBARRASSED than she prob is!!! Lmao!! What in the Hell, Lady?!?!?!!

[@joefuller3467]

Doesn't matter what you think happened or how you feel about it....all that matters is what you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, this judge was spot on, I think she made the right call.

[@Nutnboujee]

Me too, after all! Some slip through and some are found guilty unfairly. Nothing is perfect but this judge followed the LAW respectfully and that is what her JOB IS!

[@mebshields]

I was in an accident while in the passenger seat of the car. I had no seatbelt on and my head hit the windshield hard. It didn’t break. It made a spiderweb but apparently my head and neck took the rest of the shock.

[@marciaparent2696]

Left the bar at 2am but called 911 at 6am? What happened to the 4 hours.

[@markgado8782]

She was blacked out was the testimony I believe.. maybe she took a nap on the median strip? 🤭😂🤣 Ooh, ooh, maybe she walked her "attacker's" home, and finished the party, before going back to ring 911. 🤭🤭🤪

[@tiffanyreyna6949]

Yeah, so many questions. Also, why did it take the officer so long to get from the scene of the accident to the gas station? From what understood an hour could have passed. Like what is the distance between the two? It sounds like there were others who reported the incident. I’m curious to know what time frame those calls took place as well. What a scary and bizarre case.

[@luvswoodheat5483]

That’s what I was thinking, bar closes at 2 and this happened around 6 or 7. I live in this area and know where the bar Powells is.

[@wordsleuth992]

She was likely being assaulted by whoever drugged her at the bar- scary

[@gypsydust]

I don’t know what happened either. Good question. But according to the 911 center many people called around the time that she did so I believe the accident had just happened at 6.

[@Kknightstar]

This one was so frustrating, we all know she’s guilty. However, the judge did a good job. Thanks Mike!

[@alicelaybourne1620]

I don't think she did a good job. She and the prosecutor should have been yelling "Facts not in evidence" about 1000 times. Banas was so full of crap.

[@Kknightstar]

@@alicelaybourne1620 she did the right thing with what she had, we needed more. No server testimony, no video from the bar or the gas station. That lady was definitely guilty, but we live in America and justice is blind

[@jwitkoff]

doesnt matter what you think you know. matters what you can prove. fault is 100% on the prosecution for not doing their job correctly.

[@Michael-pt8cr]

Why is it frustrating if you think there's reasonable doubt?

[@Kknightstar]

@@Michael-pt8cr for me there’s no doubt, the case against her was not proven. That’s frustrating

[@mindybunny]

She got really lucky, first by surviving her accident and second by escaping justice.

[@karenneill9109]

Escaping justice isn’t always lucky. She needs alcohol counselling, and she won’t get any help.

[@msdarby515]

First that the accident prevented her rape. Second, that her head injury wasn't worse. Third, that the incompetence of the police officer didn't impact her head injury recovery.

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

She got very lucky she didn’t kill it Main anyone too

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

Bc I don’t think she would have gotten past that so easily

[@charlesdignam780]

The Government failed to prove its case, an acquittal is required in this case.

[@MileHighBeauty]

Poor investigation from law enforcement. How did he not go to the scene!? And no better from Prosecutor... the fact that the judge asked more questions than the other two combined says everything. Lol. Also, where was she from 2am when bar closed to 6am when the 911 call was made?

[@RESPECINIZEbcc]

Getting eiffel towered by 2 light-skinned black men

[@heidihajny2663]

My ex was in a similiar accident..........when he was in the passenger seat passed out after the car accident, he still to this day has no memory of who drow him in his car & left him there. He had to do 3 brain surgeries before he was okey, so this girl should be happy and grateful that she didn't got hurt worse then she was... People saw a guy(the driver) run away from the car, but the police never figure out which one of his friends left him there after the accident... You can only think what kind of a friend could do such a thing...

[@Mycosyco1]

Thanks Mike! I don’t know why people act like a “like” costs them money or something.

[@arctain1]

Here’s a like for this comment. As my rate is $940/hr, and this took me approximately 1 minute to type, proofread, post, and verify posting, it cost me ~$16 for this like. I hope you use this like judiciously and with care.

[@generallee185]

“Conversating”? Obviously a Rhodes Scholar.

[@Theaiguywhoknowsnothing]

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[@missb5982]

It's so convolutely insane! We know each other a long time, I comment as I go along. I don't believe a word she's saying about another driver, she's guilty as hell, needs to pay the price and get some help.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

She admitted that she was driving on the 911 call!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Or any other time for that matter

[@yevetteAD]

that's why her attorney was going for insufficient evidence ... but no video from the bar or freeway* intersection recordings. or how many calls were placed for that "crash", the 911 operator was hearing about a crash at that location for a while by the time she called in.

[@sherrileduc4220]

WOW, that call is scary. How sad truly, but glad it was shown how drunk she was.

[@GoodnightJLH]

Actually, you can’t tell the difference between being drunk, being roofied or head trauma from a recorded phone call.

[@melvinsilver2674]

Hallelujah, finally a court holding a prosecutor to the burden of proof.

[@blaineandrew2407]

You remembered turning on the lights that took all of 3 seconds but you didn't remember a 3 minute phone call

[@FourofSix]

The outcome is a bit surprising after hearing the 911 call…but then I’m not a judge 😮…glad no one was hurt…good video!!

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

I don't understand why tho. She admitted on the 911 call that she crashed and she was by herself. I'm only in the first few painful minutes of this recording. The Communications Operator is a Saint.

[@zitterich76]

@@Claudia-lq3ns she said "she was involved in an accident" that does not mean she was driving, or guilty of causing it, it simply shows she reported an incident, which she did follow the law, it now creates a time line of events, now the State has to prove that she was behind the wheel, caused the accident, let alone was responsible for the damages. This is a CIVIL Mater under common law, in order to prove criminal intent or violations under Public Law (Statutory), the State now has to prove their side to be true. There was NO evidence prior to that she was driving, let alone driving in a reckless manner, let alone any traffic citation that shows prior related issues that would have led to causing the incident. For all we know another car or pedestrian, or animal, or shovel came out of no where and forced the incident to occur. The state had to prove her story inaccurate, and they themselve did NOT bring any witnesses forward to prove such claims.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

@Mike Zitterich correct me if I'm wrong, but she said "I was trying to get off the highway" and "I hit the shovel" and "I hit the debris". Did I mishear that?

[@markgado8782]

@@zitterich76 do you know people lie? Why do you so vehemently believe her?

[@markgado8782]

@@zitterich76 shovel "came out of nowhere"... how now?

[@quixoticalkitten6809]

Congrats Mike! I agree with the judges decision because of my personal knowledge of a person in a very similar situation, who's BAC was also not high enough to be "completely unaware of their actions" since the drink had been roofied. The problem in this case was the lack of effort, from both parties, in thoroughly investigating what occurred prior to and after the crash. Was their video of her leaving alone or with someone, did any of the bar's staff witness anything and lastly what about a hair test for Rohypnol?

[@simbasue]

Exactly!

[@GoodnightJLH]

I agree. I also had a friend who was drugged at a bar. Typically that is done for purposes of obtaining sex. That might explain why we a missing 4 hours between bar closure and the first 911 call.

[@Zothaqqua]

Balance of probabilities: guilty. Reasonable doubt: not guilty. And I'm very glad we don't hand out criminal convictions based on whether it's *likely* that someone did something.

[@tmoore4139]

But she wasn't traveling from the pub back to her home at 6:00 in the morning! The pub wasn't still open!

[@markstone1619]

Most incompetent judge ever... and I do understand what truly constitutes REASONABLE doubt. Judge handled this case as if the legal threshold was "without ANY doubt". Also very 'telling' of the defendant's 'selective' memory. This judge is the reason for repeat DUI offenders.

[@mr.nilraps]

Oh how privileged we are to read a comment from the supposed arbiter of what’s “reasonable”. You give yourself too much credit here. The ADA’s case rested entirely on the 911 call. Every bit of evidence beyond that was circumstantial at best. They have zero direct physical evidence that she was driving. Was she lying? Probably yes, it’s very likely. But there is REASON to believe she might not be. That is what a REASONABLE doubt is. The operative term is reason. The position of the passenger seat IS a valid and compelling reason to doubt she was driving. If no one else was in the car why was it leaned all the way back. Whose head hit the passenger side of the windshield? She was treated for a head injury, the driver side of the windshield is fine. The glasses are irrelevant and immaterial. She was drunk, possibly drugged, and certainly had a head injury when she spoke to the 911 operator. Nothing she said there could be trusted as she didn’t even know what she was saying, it can’t be used as a confession. It’s the prosecutor’s job to prove that no one could have been driving that car other than her. He failed to prove that. Since the call was the only evidence they had on her it’s REASONABLE to rule exactly as the judge did.

[@anthonydavis3424]

Affirmation action judge

[@markstone1619]

@@mr.nilraps You're wrong on so many counts that I don't know where to begin. I can easily tell that your experience level with DUI cases, as well as court and evidentiary processes is at an all time low with you. You are WAY off track with your definition and analogy of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. You're not even close. This case also does not rest 'entirely' on the 911 call. It's laughable that you put one iota of validity into the position of the passenger seat, as that pic was taken much later at the wrecker yard by the DEFENDANT herself, who knew her (laughable) 'alibi story' and easily could have flipped the lever and tilted the seat back, as there was no officer or anyone on the prosecution side there to attest to the legitimacy of that seat's position. Please don't buy a used car, if you're THAT gullible. She was NOT treated for a head injury. NO medical documents stated that. Plus, it's obvious that you have zero hands-on experience in auto crashes, be it single car or multiples involved, as I've personally handled many wrecks where there was a single (unbelted) driver, no passengers, and the passenger side of the windshield exhibited identical damage. It's all about the angle of impact, which you're not experienced enough to even realize. She did not "certainly have a head injury" on the 911 call. You are not a doctor and you did not examine her at that point in time. I've handled countless 'extreme drunks' who were in no crash at all and yet exhibited the same 'brain-dead' level of intoxication. You're one that confuses 'absolutely without any doubt' with the actual legal standard of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Even Mike agrees with me and says that he would have found her guilty, as well as the vast majority of the commenters agree with that. That is what demonstrates the legal threshold of 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. In a nutshell it's the consensus of REASONABLE judgements from a majority group of REASONABLE people. Add/edit: Note 2 key points. The windshield shows distinct evidence that the damage was from an object OUTSIDE striking the passenger side of the windshield and NOT damage from anyone inside, or a person's head. The other key point is the trooper testified that she told him she tried to start the vehicle at the crash site. That alone is admission of DUI, as yuou do not have to be physically driving to be guilty of DUI. You only need the means (keys), ability, and intent (as admitted) to operate the vehicle even the slightest bit.

[@justpinkcandy]

There was reasonable doubt. Interviewing the bartender would have helped (did she leave with someone), better police investigation (photos of the interior; fingerprints/DNA from the steering wheel). I think she was guilty, too, but understand why the judge found her NG.

[@MacramedMama]

I'm sorry but I am disgusted with the ruling. It just angers me that it was so blatantly clear that she was the one who drove the car drunk and crashed and yet not only is she getting away with it, but then putting on the crying act at the end and saying "thank you your honor." just irritated the hell out of me. I could never be a lawyer, for so many reasons, but especially because of situations like this. It just anger me to no end. I would have so much trouble just letting it go and moving on with my day.

[@paulf3]

Angry, why? can you prove there wasn't a random black man there? Didn't think so. Murica! 🦅🦅

[@sophiasokolowski1982]

Let's look at a hypothetical situation with you as the defendant. Let's say you went to a bar to play pool and have a couple cold beers. Some unknown woman starts talking to you. After a couple beers you become "fuzzy" or feel rather buzzed and unknown woman offers to drive you home and wrecks your car in the process. She flees. You then stumble looking for help, fuzzy and confused. Would you be more angry than you are about her verdict if you were convicted on a 911 phone call? Hell yes you would be. You got someone to drive you and the only proof you have is your word.

[@mjd111]

Me too... they drive a 5000 pound weapon when drunk and get away with it. Beyond pissed. 🫤

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

Unless you're the defense lawyer in these cases ~ cha ching 🤑🥳. it's the difference between hiring your own attorney or having the prosecuting state provide you with one because you can't afford an aggressive defense as a conflict of 'interest' is only if the GUBBERment say$ say it is .....😩

[@peeweecrawford3349]

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[@TheMGLaw]

Wow. The defendant admitted on the 911 call that she was trying to exit the vehicle and hit something. That means she was driving.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

I know!! What the hell??

[@zitterich76]

she admitted to exiting the vehicle, and hit something? does NOT mean crap. Obviously, if much of the damage is to the passenger side of the car, she very well could have been speaking from a passenger point of view. IF the damage was on the passenger side, very well present the fact that there was an object blocking the passenger door, meaning that as she excited the vehicle, she hit something. your opinion does not matter here, you have to Place her behind the wheel prior to the incident, prior to gettign out of the car, let alone place her in a prior to position of reckless driving to even give the State a chance of winning the case. NO WITNESSES came forward to prove your claim...

[@markgado8782]

@@zitterich76 calm down.. take a breath... wooosaaa.

[@lisamcclendon2720]

​@@zitterich76she said she drove her car and was alone

[@smasher.338]

​@@lisamcclendon2720she also said her name was spelled in grunts, "uh's", and clicks. Lol

[@rebecculousrk]

I was sure she was lying. However, there was a moment when she was getting upset, and that reaction actually made me give her story a tiny bit of credence, coupled with the time issues, the seats, the windshield and the disjointed 911 call, then at the end of the day the prosecutor relied too much on his confidence that it would be as obvious to the judge as it was to him that she was lying.

[@rpineanew]

Both attorneys appeared very cordial and professional. I bet that prosecutor wins/charms a lot of jurors when in trial.