Wildermyth - Review After 100%

[@thenagito]

I get around the repetitiveness of random events by leaning into what the game mainly offers-- character. When you go through an event, the characters are still new, and they might make different choices than others would. Random chances are different. You might succeed at something you previously failed, or vice versa. And with legacy characters and relationships, you can see how old characters interact with the new. It's really all quite brilliant.

[@stevewall7044]

Its good except when ypu get children that are older than the parents. Obviously this is a bug, not a bug generated by faulty syntax but by logic(it gives a "correct" product, simply not the "desired" product).

[@kernelpanic2010]

I really like your brand of reviewing games. And I appreciate all the work you put into each of these. I watch almost every one. Very informative, concise, and to the point. Great job. Keep it up.

[@jf8350143]

I actually find the game has way more content than I expected. For a smaller indie title, the amout of random event is pretty impressive. And they are still adding new event into the game. Hope they make an expansion for it.

[@hellfrozenphoenix13]

They did their first DLC lately, sp i am hoping for an expansion to campaigns or events. Thatd be AMAZING!

[@FalkFlak]

there seems to be a expansion out :-D

[@CountCocofang]

The hero development in this game is absolutely incredible. The randomness is also great because you never know which direction a character goes into. Your warrior might end up being hyper-mobile, a slow paladin-style tank or ranged. Your mystic might become a transformed spell slinger, a buffed up melee DD or a support tank. Hunters could lean into DoT-AoE, become a single-target burst combatant or high/short range assassin. And all of that with really unique stories to each character. I can recall the history of heroes I played dozens of hours ago in my very first campaign. And the great thing is that you can take your interesting legacy-cast of characters and continue playing/developing them in future campaigns. It's such a fun system!

[@Alister222222]

I haven't played the game, but I get the feeling you hit the nail on the head with the randomness being about shutting down min-maxing. If you had full control over your character development, and gearing, all your characters would tend to converge on the same few meta builds. The randomness will force you to play with what you get, and adapt to how things happen.

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

Meta players do use legacy hero system to play 100 starting calamities WL CiS (max difficulty) games. There is a saying that at 85% optimisation even that is winnable. And people find unusual builds that are on par with power of well known meta builds

[@jonhstonk7998]

I remember I had a character in my first campaign called torkhel or smth of the sort: he was a warrior and my favorite character, he always fought at the front and killed his enemies and as a result I gave him the best items out of all the group: during the final confrontation with the final boss of the campaign the whole party basically died during the fight,trying to sacrifice themselves to do as much damage as possible to this boss…except for this specific warrior…I was resigning myself to having to either save scum or start another campaign when something amazing happened: this warrior which had a very low HP and was about to die… did a very unlikely critical strike on the final boss…and he won…this moment alone made me love this game…it looked like something out of a farytale or anime…he became my first legacy character and i reincarnate him in every campaign I do now…he never disappoints always dying by sacrificing himself to save the party or dying to the evil boss at the end…sometimes he gets to retire and live a happy life…he’s growing to be the max rank of legacy character soon! Man I love this game!

[@daestka5512]

Seeing my character age reminds me of fable where the character age the more you level up and I love the amount of transformations that you can get. Amazing game, great video!

[@cernunnos_lives]

Your review alone shows your absolute dedication. And it's not lost to many of us. When you upload something, I pay attention. Thanks for caring about all this.

[@chinmayhota8983]

Thanks a lot for the timestamps. Helps a lot.

[@stuchatterton6550]

While it can become a little repetitive if you play the holy heck out of it, this is the most charming game I've purchased in years. Loved it.

[@Esty568]

I absolutely adore the story, especially “All The Bones of Summer”. It is a really good dragon-story with loveable characters in both the allies and antagonists side.

[@corefunstudios]

Excellent review, thanks! I'm definitely going to pick this one up.

[@Paul0Grech]

I really enjoyed my first few playthroughs of it. I do admit the art style is not for everyone but it has its own charm. I really do hope some developers take some notes on some of the "relationship" aspects of this game though because it was a refreshing experience to have rivalries and relationships between party members. The cliche lover is obvious, but things like the loving father/daughter, or the 3 generations of grandmother, father and daughter moments or the jilted father/step-son scenes were really well thought out and fit so perfectly. The transformations too were interesting (First one was an unlucky moment for the ranger where the statue exploded an a crystal was embedded into her eye, in which she turned into a crystallian).

[@dangilboa6496]

I really learn to respect games that don't need your attention for 100+ hours (or pretend to, using excessive padding). Enjoying a unique take on mechanics, game-play and even art style for 20-30 hours is something that I do tend to appreciate more and more. Disco Elysium took not much more than 20 hours to play. All-times masterpiece. WIldermyth is great that way.

[@alrdye]

Fantastic review, very thorough. I actually had the same concerns about the graphics but this thing is getting so many positive reviews I decided to get it. I was looking for a video without spoilers to tell me what I was jumping into and your video was perfect. Thanks!

[@lakshraghav4273]

Man i love your videos and was definately waiting for your review of wildermyth and dragon's dogma and you've actually done an amazing job of explaining the pros and cons of these games ❤️

[@SethanderWald]

I'm about 50 hours in right now, and while there is definitely a lot of repetition, I'm still finding new/interesting events quite often. Also, some events only occur if a character has met certain conditions in previous campaigns. For example, I had a character get possessed by a ghost and develop a rivalry with another character in one campaign. A couple campaigns later, the rival character finally realizes what's happening, and convinces the ghost character to come with him on a "hunting trip" where he acquires a really powerful magic sword that dispels the ghost. He then got to keep the sword for future campaigns, which is amazing because it's one of the best artifact weapons I've found so far.

[@Zombieslag]

This is the best review channel I've ever seen, and I'm pre-youtube old so that's an accomplishment.

[@christianrasmussen528]

I really like this game. I especially like the magic system, where you have to infuse with things on the map to cast spells. Shame you didn't mention that at all, as I think it's a pretty unique way of approaching magic. Apart from that though: Nice review :)

[@changsiah2]

cool but my only complaint it's not real magic to be honest real magic and the only just fuse life spirits and that's it I prefer having them healer class as well as a paladin class and then actual met Mage class to be honest I prefer casting reels fire as well as able to cast other elements like ice or water and also have more classes

[@michaelorford8304]

I agree, Rasmussen. I loved the magic system. It was the most original that I have seen. I have always thought that magic was one of the weaknesses of a lot of games (D&D for instance) and also of a lot of books. One problem with a lot of magic systems is that if magic is so powerful then why aren't magical duels extremely short? There are some problems with the magic system such as that a few of the magic spells allow for gimmicky, non-interesting ways to solve some situations but overall I was thrilled.

[@nokronis]

I personally loved the story book asthetic, also enjoyed the randomness made certain things more exciting. This coming from someone who tends to love planning out characters and parties in extreme detail, but with this game I found it a nice change of pace from that part of my mind. That being said it would be nice if they had the option to turn the RNG on and off, and I don't see a reason to not have it like that.

[@suzanner8360]

I am playing this right now. I like the randomness of the abilities & equipment. As someone who sometimes agonizes too much over the correct build and equipment, it’s refreshing to have less control over that aspect. The art style was fine. You are right on target about the characters. I have gotten attached to some of them and if they die I am sad. 🙂

[@GamerSerg74]

Agreed. This is not a game where you plan every detail of your build before you even start. Its all about how you never know what life is going to throw at you and you have to make the best from the opportunities life gives you. Often leading to something great you never would have imagined possible.

[@the_uggh]

I really liked that game. I was skeptical at first but it remains one of my more liked games of the last 5 years

[@JL-rj9fl]

I'm so glad you reviewed this title, I also was a bit put off by the art style initially (which is funny because I'm not a graphics guy, either). Since you're into TRPGs, you might find The Banner Saga interesting. The decisions carry over throughout the games and recall the combat system having a reasonable amount of depth. I'm sure you've got quite a list of games to try, but I think you'd be well served to play it some day.

[@Puntonghua]

The art style is actually what made me notice it and peaked my interest 😁

[@Huli-Man]

Great review as always. If i would add something i would ad a smal part to the video with actual game sounds, be it a spell or menu/background music or some dialog just to get to hear what the game is like when its running. i could look it up its no big thing its just something i miss from this review. keep up the good work

[@MGuglielmino2]

Sounds like a great game to play with a girlfriend or significant other who doesn’t game a whole lot

[@anomanomom239]

I hope your tooth gets better. Great review as usual.

[@danepatterson8107]

I found your review after cruising Steam for some RPGs and cross-referencing KZbin. I'm a new subscriber. Yours is an interesting commitment to review games at 100%.

[@SNESmapper]

Glad you finally were able to get around this game. I need to go back and complete some of the campaigns that I have left, this game is great.

[@Munditiae]

The story telling and retirement of character reminds me of gloomhaven, I really like it!

[@voltaicburst4279]

People don’t realise you can easily go into the game files and draw the hair, beards, pretty much everything how you like with little effort. The beards were pretty bad but i drew a moustache in and now they look sick. You can overhaul the characters art if you really wanted to.

[@Shikao87]

Definitely getting it sooner or later!

[@johnyoungerman1857]

Glad you enjoyed the game. I agree there is is some repeating, but if one is more of a casual gamer playing a couple hours every day or 2, it is not really noticed. Yeah, the Graphical artstyle was strange at first, but it does grow on ya and does well adding everything you pickup optically. I enjoyed the Character stories alot, a very recommended game to relax too. Peace

[@skenderaxe5968]

Greatly informative! I'm almost getting it, I'd just like to know a little more about the mod options for the case of storytelling opportunities :)

[@deansmith6593]

Having a hard time just looking at this game. Could not imagine playing it.

[@royalrugby4869]

I agree it can get a bit repetitive, and I did find art style off putting, it's a fun game, and if you get it on sale for around $20, I think it's fine. It's not going to blow you away storywise, but it does have a few fun moments, and it is a very chill game you can play.

[@ZendikarMage42750]

I really liked the idea of this game way more than its execution. There was too much randomness for me as someone who enjoys finely tuning character builds, time passed too quickly since I wanted more time with the characters I was seeing developed, and I didn't like being punished for slow playing which is my preferred playing style for pretty much everything

[@Isvoor]

The biggest addition I'd love to see to this game would be more detailed locations. It's a cool system to open up a new town every chapter, but all the towns are the same and almost nothing happens in them.

[@yorkieandthechihuahua]

It's funny how different things appeal to different players. While you disliked the randomness of the skills you can obtain, for some reason I liked it. I suspect I might be in the minority there but I kind of like not having full control of how my characters develop. It almost feels like they're more than just an extension of my desire and requires me to adjust a little to "who they are". Also the art style is weird to me. See, normally it's a style that would put me off but for some reason in this game... it just works. It's like Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Who the hell puts some of that crap together into one product and ISN'T high? Yet somehow... it just works. ;)

[@crazy338866]

I absolutely loved the randomness of the skills. Some of my most memorable characters ended up with an unexpected combination of skills that absolutely dominated encounters near the end of each campaign.

[@Klayht]

I would be interested in seeing your opinion on the new Omen Road DLC for this game, I started playing it a few hours ago myself and it seems interesting for a Roguelike mode

[@willhack]

I was really wondering how much you would enjoy/not enjoy this game. I appreciated the review!

[@dracul74]

Nice. Operencia is another off the beaten path crpg to someday try...

[@dat_man_lu]

I only just picked this up last week. Started a playthrough with a few friends, and the character customization and dialogue has been pretty entertaining. It seemed like the randomization was pretty big, but I was hearing about how before this last patch there was a lot of overlapping events.

[@petrusjnaude7279]

Personally the art style didn't bother me as much. I have to agree that I loved the stories that can develop between your party members and the stories in general. Enjoyed the review overall.

[@jjbudinski8486]

I don't think Morty is much of a 'toon kind of guy in general lol.

[@Aranneas]

A similar procedural rpg with absolutely astounding depth is Scroll of Taiwu, which is available on steam. But it's Chinese only. I think there's a project to fan patch it but it's been a struggle.

[@Level30Commoner]

I played it on release and really enjoyed the experience. But after 20 hours (and two or three completed campaigns) it ran out of steam for me. At least for me procedural generation almost always loses in comparison to a properly crafted and executed story. I think it could have been a real masterpiece if they had put a little bit more effort into creating the storylines.

[@OgreManGaming]

One thing to note, they’ve added and changed a lot since release. You may find it enjoyable to go back and play a bit more. But that’s just my advice

[@areacode3816]

For an indie game this was a brilliant title. I wish they had a drag and drop mod setting that non programmers could get into. Perfect setting type in custom stories import weapons, faces, enemies, so on. It would have gave it literally unlimited content.

[@philipp6938]

great review

[@wickeddrac7489]

Agree 100% on art style..if they went with a token style art style like an actual tabel top game that would have been cool in my op..

[@Joeythedungeonmaster]

There is some repetition if you play a lot, but I’ve played a good number of hours myself and I still see new events. I like the combat a lot too, as well as the legacy advancement system

[@ducky36F]

I’ve been looking at this game, but was a bit put off by the idea of the procedural generation. Good to hear it doesn’t get in the way of the characters and storytelling as much as I feared. Will look at it closer when it’s on sale next.

[@LOLsaudi]

Bought this game. Didnt get it. played for the king and liked it but it does have issues. Will redownload this and play it. thanks for the great review.

[@DerSmooth]

Thanks for the review! After a few campaigns you definitely start to see some repeat events. I didn't think that would be a huge deal at first, but it really took me out of it for some reason. That, combined with the gameplay loop getting fairly repetitive once you get to the late 2nd or 3rd campaign. In the end however, I really enjoyed playing it for about 30 hours, so I can't really complain about value.

[@minaly22]

I really loved some of the more innovative ideas of the game. Like wizards using furniture to use their 'magic', this is even lampshaded and made fun of in-game during a random event dialogue that was on the lines of "While we fighters enjoy the glory of battle up front, someone is communing with furniture at the back..." ; this was my favorite line in the game. However there are a lot of frustrating elements of the game. I especially dislike all kinds of 'old age/passing the torch to the next generation' mechanic, not just in this game but in all others (including Venus & Braves, Oreshika series).

[@Justin-Trammell]

I cant wait for this to come to consoles. Heard nothing but good things about it.

[@MarcusDwrites]

This game was fun for about 3 playthroughs

[@TomCoolery]

I agree on event repetition, but for me the art style is a positive and not negative at all.

[@dempa3]

I must admit that tRPGs isn't my preferred type of game, but the procedural generated story idea is very interesting. I'm very curious on how much depth they achieve. I suppose I'll have to check it out. WOuld be interesting to see more games with procedurally generated stories. It's a shame that Evodant Interactive never managed to launch their idea of Gyre Maelstrom with some sort of narrative engine, like a programmed Dungeon/Game Master. Would have been interesting to see what they could achieve. Although I must admit that they took an interesting, although not a "safe bet" setting.

[@firstclaw1]

I'm at the fence right now. I believe I keep it on my wishlist right now as I enjoy such titles and see a few similarities to Rimworld. But I want to first finish the other titles in my library before I stretch the discrepancy between library and time to play too thin, which frustrates me.

[@Oneydjak]

Hey Mortis can you check out Star Renegade, its another of those under the radar type games that I loved playing! It is a turn based RPG though, so less of a correlation, perhaps...

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

As a primarily Xbox gamer, I will certainly grab it if it comes to xbox.

[@Meta_Mage]

As someone who finished all 5 story campaigns, it's definitely a good game but my main problems are the event repetition (there simply arent enough for 30+h of playtimes) and that the writing style is a bit too quirky at times. I often felt that the writer (Especially douglas) always had a thesaurus out and wanted to pick the most unusual variations for each word.

[@clone104d]

Ultimately, I don’t think I liked the implementation of Legacy characters. Once I realized you’re basically “New Game +”-ing them and having them de-age with every new campaign was…not what I expected. I never felt the desire to reuse old characters after this and alter what I already thought was a complete story for them.

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

That is fair enough. I interpret this as stories being retoled and jumbled up together. And considering thrixl exist in Yandering lands reality might be more maluable there.

[@Ruki1411]

the limit of campaign scenario is a weak point, because the roguelike-aspect of the game not too much, so after played all campaign, not many reason for players to continue to play the most unique of this game i think is the magic - things, very interesting and clever

[@maxrobe]

For some reason the lack of music change in the game annoys me; To misquote "When a man plays a beautiful tune, you like, when it goes one further, you get annoyed, if they continue you want to stuff socks down their throat". Apart from that, quite a good journey.

[@shawngillogly6873]

Now this is making me think you should try Battle Brothers. The gear and combat system are almost precisely the opposite. But it does a lot of emergent storytelling and the "crisis" system seems similar to the incursion system in this game. I would call it a cross of Darkest Dungeon and XCom.

[@Supernaught00]

Yeah, I don't like the art style at all but after watching this review I might be willing to give it a try....and add it to my giant backlog.

[@xNachtmahRx]

How fast do you plow through rpg? Almost unreal 🙈

[@MortismalGaming]

I mean it varies game to game, like one a week or so

[@voronwecalanon206]

If you haven't played Grim Dawn I highly recommend you check it out.

[@DukeBradleyLoL]

Good review, art style bit and is really weird to me as the artstyle and aesthetic imo works perfectly with this type of game, but aside from that all in all good listen.

[@henrychang2267]

Thank you for the review. After watching the review, I decided NOT to buy this game despite the overwhelmingly positive reviews on Steam. The focus of this game is not on combat experience but on characters and story telling, as well as the childish graphics make up my decision.

[@SapienAnamoly]

this game is cool. i wish it was on ps4

[@expat8460]

Just bought the game so I can past the time until Baldur's Gate 3 releases in 2 weeks.

[@StefanSochinsky]

Mortismal Gaming: "I review games after doing them 100% of the way to distinguish myself from other youtube reviewers!" The Completionist: "... Come, again?" (Sorry, dude, I'm just teasing a bit. This is the first video from you I've seen and I liked it. Take care!)

[@MortismalGaming]

I tried to arrange a duel for the title, but never got a response.

[@StefanSochinsky]

@@MortismalGaming lol!

[@Hrafnskald]

Great review, agree on all points. The mods do add some options for more character leveling/abilities control, which can be fun. There are some positively abusive to the point of hilarious strategies possible with either a bit of luck or the free skill reroll mod. My favorites involve giving your warrior type bonuses that expand their Attack of Opportunity/Threat/Guard distance-range and number of AoOs to the point that any monsters who pass have to get hit multiple times. Pairs well with the "force monster to move where you tell it to" magic ability and a fine Chardonnay. Also fun: the return fire style Hunter ability that lets you shoot any enemy that shoots an ally standing by you. My first purchase is the most expensive bow on that Hunter. Poor bad guys keep getting crit-ed by disgruntled lover archer :)

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

I wonder if you saw Protector ability. And Archery Ripost hunters are quite fun (but they are more of metagaming dodge/block accumulating legacy building build)

[@Bhazor]

My biggest problem was that the roguelike approach doesnt work great. There just isn't enough branching events in each campaign to start from scratch over and over. I ended up save scumming after seeing the exact story three times. I like most of the art style, the paper cutouts are cute and transformations look cool and wouldn't work in 3D. My only complaint are the faces which are over simplified and quickly look generic. My second biggest complaint was the writing style. I just thought everything was to quippy like so many other games out there. I think a more fairytale or epic poem style would have worked better. Maybe skip dialog and have just a narrator instead. To me characters all just seemed to talk the same way.

[@LoveJungle420]

Is this one of those RPG's like Octopath Traveler where there are multiple main characters with their own progression? I don't like that trend. I like one main character to grow throughout the entire game with side characters to help them.

[@philliphuey231]

If the level abilities weren’t random I feel it’d be too easy to build op characters each time.

[@garrick3727]

I like how characters find items, and when they wear or use them you see it on their character, even in the story cutscenes. You can't pass items between characters, which is bad for strategy but it does make the characters and items seem more distinct. It would be good if you could will your item to any children you have. That would make sense. But no passing items around for min-maxing, which is ok with me.

[@principleshipcoleoid8095]

Willing artifact weapons might be OP there due to legacy systems. But one two Non artifact closes (non armour maybe) could work

[@TheKrensada]

This game is almost what I have wanted to make for years. I remember calling it Procedural narrative. And I was told that it would be impossible to do that in a video game. It's a shame this game's art style is garbage.

[@couchman-sw6jy]

With new advances in AI these types of games will be extremely easy to make. It’s already being done

[@rainerwinkler7891]

i am youtuber to and my game was i play is my favorit grus rainer

[@AburamyShi1]

When i played it the combat put me off, and it's an absolute shame that the heroes can't swap equipment.

[@eXistenZ15]

The randomness killed this for me. I really like the setting, the visuals, the writing, but it just stops at the gameplay. Abilities? random. Events? random. Loot? random. Transformations? based on your stats, which are random. You've also seen most of the gameplay.combat after a few hours. Difficulty only gives extra health Its a shame, cause i love these types of games (xcom, expeditions rome, etc....)

[@mick7727]

This is actually on itch too so I'll be buying it there. Not a huge fan of steam.

[@Jadegreif]

Highly disagree on the arstyle, but I guess that was your point :)

[@chik2602]

I couldn't even finish the 3rd campaign, it's way too repetitive and the combat has no real depth.

[@the_crius]

While I appreciate the in depth review, you are approaching this from the perspective of a TRPG while the focus on this game is the storytelling, not the tactical combat aspect.

[@MortismalGaming]

I talked a lot about the storytelling, and the game self describes in the first sentence of it's about section as a tactical RPG. I agree the combat is less important in a game like this, but that is also how the game is selling itself.

[@ferparis1]

Man I really like the random mechanics of this game, but I just cant get past the graphical style of this game. Maybe it seems superficial or something, but it just takes me out of the action so much and takes away my will to play, is just so ugly...

[@callum105]

i bought it then watched a review🤣

[@Aaron-ur5jc]

1 for algo

[@Aaron-ur5jc]

Thank you for the heart Mr Mortismal! Real surprised u bothered 🤣. Love the viewer interaction!

[@onatgz]

free comment.

[@ArchAngelThomas]

Homewrecker.

[@magiliw7247]

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[@Dragonfire-tn2jg]

Yes the art style is not for me.

[@johnmijares6709]

Uhmm first?

[@mortexia]

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