ULTIMATE 3D PRINTER TUNING GUIDE for the ELEGOO Neptune 4 plus / pro / max

[@vancitydadbod]

3D printing newb here, and feel like a pro after watching this. Thanks for the details a logical progression of tuning!

[@zakspop]

This has to be the best 3d printer setup video I've seen. Especially good to help with those of switching to Orca from Cura.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@James01520]

Anyone who watches this video will subscribe. Amazing, simple instructions. Easy to follow for us newbies. Well done.

[@xmetal280]

Watched the whole thing and now will have to watch it again to follow along with these superb steps. Great video, super clear and I appreciate the before and after comparisons.

[@Zackrevoluzion]

Finally a superb video that preps you once you get your neptune from start to finish, love it!

[@Kiickman]

HOLY MOLY! this is amazing! Best video to help newbies like me with FDM Printers! Thank so mutch!

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad it was helpful!

[@vikis9]

One off best videos what i have seen about tuning! Not too long and not too short, and not too complicated to understand all the calculation! Nice! Thumbs up from me!

[@TheHikingReader]

The timing and thoroughness of this video couldn't be better as my new Neptune 4 Plus just arrived yesterday and I plan to work on getting it assembled tonight and work on tuning it over the weekend! Thanks for so much information and how well it was presented here!

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Oh perfect! Let me know if you have any issues during tuning! Good luck

[@TheHikingReader]

@@WildRoseBuilds I've got two of the 3 initial test prints you used. What is the name or where do I find the middle one with the top layer info?

[@TheHikingReader]

@@WildRoseBuilds I've tried to start doing some of the OrcaSlicer calibration tests and I can't even get the first Flow Rate to work. It looks like it starts to draw the outline of the shape (rather ugly honestly) then when it starts to fill in the piece it goes through the motion but no filament seems to be coming out to lay down inside the shape. I'm not sure what the issue is. My test prints came out fairly well before trying the calibration. lol Update: I missed the decimal point in the Flow Rate. The poor print head was trying to force 100 through that nozzle. That's been corrected. Now I think I'm having z offset issues because I'm having plat adhesion issues. I'm going to start with that tomorrow and see how it goes. Final Update: All squared away. Thanks again for the awesome video. Things looking good on my end. I still can't seem to fully print the double helix as it starts to unravel near the top of it. I'm trying an actual print that is just as tall if not a bit taller now and will see how it goes.

[@BenRichard-y7u]

​@@WildRoseBuildshey bro I been praying for some more Neptune 4 videos from you. You really helped me dip my toes into klipper unfortunately I haven't really gotten too much further than that lol. Any chance you could make a part 2 to this video? Right now hardware wise im pretty good, but my klipper game needs much work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TGgWuam8uqgs0si=hgFjE50Lo0-rhzDH

[@TheHikingReader]

@@WildRoseBuilds Again, this guide was a tremendous help getting my new printer up and running. I'm about to switch from PLA to PETG. Would following this same routine make sense? I know the temps are changed from the PLA I was using to the ranged for the PETG I'm using. Just wasn't sure if it makes sense to follow these same steps or not.

[@MrObsidian23]

Thank you. I watched this 3 times. fantastic step by step walk through and great explanation of what you are fixing/improving. Although I didn't understand somethings, i will have to watch it a couple more times to get the detail i missed. I have a new Neptune 4 plus arriving in two days so will see how it all goes. Thanks again and I'm a new subscriber after watching several of your videos.

[@iochhi]

I think it means a lot when I tell you that we have been waiting for a long time for you to make a video showing how you configure your machines to obtain results as good as your videos. A big hug and greetings.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

I appreciate that! Thanks for waiting patiently and for watching! 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@MrAlan1828]

Thank you for this video. I love and support Canadian content. This has helped me setup a Amazon return of a N4 Max, sold as open box for $299.99 CAD everything inside was loose and warped, dropped . I put it together and it printed garbage, then after watching this I fixed, updates, calibrated and have done more, final results were night and day,

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad to here that this helped!! thanks for watching and supporting :)

[@j.s.8583]

One of the best how to's on YT. Cant thank you enough for just getting me started. Only thing I've noticed is i don't have the same options as you do since I've upgraded to the latest Neptune 4 Pro firmware's. Anyway you could do an updated tutorial? Anyway. can't thank you enough. Got my first print running as we speak!! GGs!

[@Grithertime]

I like the step wise approach, this has been very helpful!

[@huguesgauthier6067]

Wow ! thanks, i got my first 3d printer today, neptune 4 plus. This video is for me ❤❤😍😍

[@real2rek]

Neptune 4 max here. I was just looking to calibrate all the stuff again properly now. After 2 weeks of playing with it. It's pretty accurate right out of the box but i'm now dealing with some blobs and zits on large arcs. I learned a lot and also will try the orca slicer now. Thanks :D

[@stealthymosquito]

Agreed. Neptune 4 Max been printing on for less than a week. Went thru all of this today and the settings were super close to ideal out of the box.

[@swavvy6337]

I am getting blobs as well with the 4 max, did this video help with it

[@sunbertyv3947]

Now man how s going?

[@teamtyrantmotorsport]

Elegoo should be paying you for this video 😁 😁 excellent information.

[@sodyek5585]

perfect guide, all set up in a matter of hours, thank you

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@controversialrebel5639]

An excellent video, I shall definitely earmark this as my 'go-to reference guide', as being new to the world of 3D printing, I'm sure I'll make use of it many times in the foreseeable future, thank you.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

[@BenRichard-y7u]

Thank you so much for your neptune 4 videos, all of them have been helpful for neptune and klipper noobs. is there any chance you could make a part 2 for your first video "How to Tune The Elegoo Neptune 4 Klipper 3D Printer for Better Print Quality (Step-by-Step Guide)"?? Ive been trying to learn more about klipper and add more stuff to it like different macros, screw tilt adjust, and probe calibrate so im not constantly messing with z offset. ive suggested that video to a lot of people on reddit and it's been a lifesaver for us klipper noobs but Id love to learn more and your teaching style is so easy to follow. Plus there's so much to learn on the klipper3d website but I understand not everything is compatible with the elegoo version of klipper so Im mainly wondering about what other cool stuff that can be done with Anyway Im subbed so im praying you end up making a part 2. The cool things to print videos are another of my favs not

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad these videos help! A lot of the klipper site stuff SHOULD work for these printers, but yes a Part 2 with some more tips and tricks sounds like a great idea. thanks for the recommendation! :)

[@williamurbanvids]

This is exactly what I needed! It's so much more than just leveling and this was so useful! Subbed.

[@Acidaries6669]

ill be using this video for reference as my new Neptune 4 plus just arrived.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

i love my 4 plus! let me know if you run into any issues!

[@LexxDesign3D]

Perfect timing I was just about to tune my Neptune 4 Plus! Thanks man!!!

[@WildRoseBuilds]

No problem!! Let me know how your tuning goes!

[@Jordaneal]

Great content I thank you. Question: @14:40 you multiply the value at which the corner is sharpest by the step value, but when I print the step value is 0.16, default is 0.2. If i did that number it would be way too large. What is the hicup here?

[@Jordaneal]

Jordan from the future here. The layer size was 0.16, and the step value for the PA test was 0.02. I needed clarification on the difference there.

[@avviat]

Thanks so much dude! Now tuning mine

[@colororb4105]

Thanks! I was literally planning on doing this tonight but didn't know what order to run the Orca Slicer calibrations. Now I know!

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

[@luismendes1234]

Thanks so much, I recently bought a Neptune 4 Pro printer and printed the tests that came on the flash drive without any problems, but after that, everything changed. I'll follow your tutorial and see if I can get good prints using the Orca Slicer. Thanks

[@DDubief]

I actually waited til this weekend (received my brand new Neptune 4 Max back in Nov 23'.) Decided to wait for upgraded firmware and components (Linear Rails X/Y/Z and upgraded Hotend "MicroSwiss Flowtech") Couldn't be happier and going thru this tuning will make it a breeze to get thru my 3 Main Filament choices (PLA+/PETG/PET-CF). This testing also pointed out a few flaws in my install so far (such as un-greased linear rails causing massive X-axis jumps), all of which a bit of grease/oil smoothed out. Can't wait to get back into this though, my Ender 3V2 will also likely get the treatment as I transition that machine to Linear Rails and Orcaslicer.

[@josephtayor5128]

Thanks man. I literally just unboxed my first printer which is a Neptune 4plus

[@UmutErhan]

I just got my Neptune 4 Plus today! Already finished the test filament inside and I'm waiting for the new filaments to arrive. I will try these thank you! Also, It might be a good idea to heat the bed even before the manual leveling

[@kathy5660]

thank you so much for this. although my orca slicer wouldnt allow me to print the temp tower atm. going to look into fixing that🤗

[@Grithertime]

0:24... I hear what you did there.

[@Kotp29]

the music is so calming

[@Spaghettttto]

I've had my n4+ for about a year now...and yeah I'm returning my whole device again using this video tomorrow

[@oleww50]

Excellent video! I just wish the printers didn’t need all this minute fine turning it really puts me off even trying. But I will attempt to follow your video and keep my fingers crossed 😅🤞

[@acehole727]

Thank you for this. I'm pretty new to 3d printing and this helps a lot.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad it was helpful!

[@1tons]

Thanks for this video. This is my first printer. I purchased it because my son was begging for this. Now we cant seem to print anything but the samples that come on the usb. I am going to go step by step tomorrow and hopefully this eorks out. Thanks again.

[@1tons]

Update. Your walkthrough was very helpful and I was able to get my first print. I still have some tuning but I would still be nowhere without this tutorial. Thanks again.

[@YakovK09]

thanks for an amazingly detailed video!

[@mucutecto]

awesome guide!

[@edroberts5193]

Really helpful, thank you!

[@jeffreyboykin8902]

Now, would you have to do all these steps again if you from a .4 to a .2 nozzle?

[@MjrVenelas]

@WildRoseBuilds - you changed all Settings in the CFG File, but what if i have multiple Filaments (with different specs) do i change the Settings in the Filament Options or still in the CFG of the printer?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Extrusion rate / rotation distance should hold up pretty well across different materials. The only thing I ever change in my cfg is pid but I have all my different temperatures commented out and can switch them easily. There’s probably a better way 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@DR-if8tx]

Have this setting to be done for every different filament?

[@PotatoManGames]

is this something you do with each filament?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

I only print pla on my Neptune machines so that’s all I tune them for. You can absolutely tune for other materials and just save them under different profiles. There’s also a filament override menu that can change printer settings like retraction and speed for whichever filament profile you have selected!

[@deathowlcustoms6540]

how do you adjust the flow rate when your test results look best with a positive number instead of a negative number?

[@markm75]

Where to get those test prints?

[@alanull1]

I like V2, but would prefer it if the unit recessed into the saucer to maintain a flush look when not operating. Imagine a sliding door, or potentially and iris that open with the turret popping up.

[@LuckyWabbitGaming]

I have been printing on my Elegoo Neptune plus 4 for about a year now, you showed me some things I never knew, sadly I have been using the manufacture suggested Cura slicer this whole time :(

[@CYBERNYFE]

did I get a special ed type of printer because it says it's going to take an hour and half for the flow rate test

[@Mclovin_It]

What is the link to your test cube?

[@aktymel3943]

when you started retraction tower didnt you just discard settings made by temperature tower ? therefore the retraction tower was printed at wrong temperature ?

[@miguelc6126]

Did the flow rate test my best one was -10 how would I apply that to my settings

[@Gershy13]

Are you using elegoo PLA? Also my Neptune 4 pro doesn't have built in input shaping, any recommendations?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Yes elegoo pla! I have had great results with it and they’re starting to make some cool silk and bicolor filaments as well that print good. For input shaping on the 4 I’d look into a usb accelerometer, I think big tree tech makes one for very cheap! You can also visit the klipper website where they document a manual tuning test for resonance compensation. Thanks for watching!

[@Teleport73]

A really useful video, thanks. But despite what your title says the Neptune 4 Pro doesn't have the option for input shape tuning or PID calibration in it's advanced setting menu. As far as I'm aware this model doesn't ship with the accelerometer required to achieve the former anyway. Now if you could upload a video showing how this could be achieved with the 4 Pro (maybe using a USB accelerometer), that would be most appreciated.

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Hey thanks for the heads up on this, I didn’t realize I had put the pro in the title, I’ll remove that. For the pro you can read the klipper documentation and follow their steps to do a manual resonance calibration test print with no need for an accelerometer. There’s also a command that can be issued through the fluid interface in the console to tune pid. Hope that helps!

[@DAN-kx4mj]

​@@WildRoseBuildsYou still haven't removed it

[@Kaimelar8]

Excellent video, thanks!

[@urielpadron2463]

how do you make the timelapse?

[@canaancopeland5059]

simply amazing

[@jinda70]

Thanks!! The input shaper nozzle calibration are not in the update for the elegoo neptune 4 pro. Or I did it wrong.

[@xenoaiandrobotics4222]

How do i go on full speed setup

[@thronex4741]

For elegoo neither 4 plus i changed the flow rate as you told in the printer.cfg but after that i was not able get the prints to stick to the buildplate at all what should I do?

[@mehdikhan-ey6ns]

is the flow rate different on all printers even if they are the same model

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Yes! Things like ambient temperature, filament type, and extruder idler pressure are all different even on the same machines and play a role in flow rate.

[@glazier359]

you might have answered this but, where can I get the calibration block file?

[@ScubaSteve117Gaming1]

I think I have gone through 3 iterations of the guide but in the end I am still having issues with my prints, mostly i think extrusion and pressure issues because i don't get a lot of stringin on any calibration print.

[@Krunkle78]

I can't seem to get it to work in bambu studios even tho they have a profile? am I doing something wrong? :(

[@WildRoseBuilds]

What exactly isn’t working?

[@aiko5528]

best video ever.

[@밤부우]

What time-lapse program do you use?

[@jameskaminsky4838]

I found your torture helix. What would help newbies like me is if you could provide the links for the tests that you run, other than those included in the slicer. I have the boat and your helix; not sure which cube you used. Thanks for your work!

[@ridrugo182]

Can you pls post a link?

[@0MexNinja0]

what should i do if mine doesnt even finish printing past the first temperature test. it just came unstuck from the plate after getting to the top of 230 PLA

[@WildRoseBuilds]

You’ve done the bed leveling and z offset? Given the bed a good clean with soap and water? If so try using a big brim on the print to help it stick!

[@0MexNinja0]

Yeah did all the tests and leveling and cleaned the bed even went to do the retraction tuning test and it printed that perfectly. I'll try a bigger brim. Thank you

[@peghast1793]

When i run the retraction calibration, my printer starts to begin heating up the nozzle and bed, but shortly after, it resets the print head position and says, "System is currently starting, please wait". It never runs the calibration. All of the other calibration tests work fine.. any ideas what's going on?

[@thelonestarranger9131]

I changed the end retraction length to 5 and it solved my issue hope this helps.

[@gamingandstuff9286]

When I tried to print the flow rate test on my 4 pro it kept coming off the build plate. I tried cleaning it allready. What’s the next step?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Ad a big brim with 0 contact distance or try a raft!

[@pepper_guy]

This is very different from the previous one he did in that, the settings aren't stored in the filament settings but in the printer.cfg file. I thought every filament had to be calibrated?

[@robbourgonje1928]

My neptune 4 PRO has software version 1.1.2.41 and the motors are 1.2A I want to upgrade and formatted a few memory sticks with FAT32 and copied the files from fixpack to the root of memory stick. I inserted the stick and started the machine nothing happened when I go to setting and about machine I pressed the up arrow at the bottom of machine and message shows update failed put all files in the root of the stick {which I did} I tried 3 different memory sticks including the one supplied with the machine when I directly use the firmware update file instead of the FIXpack it is the same. Your video is perfect to upgrade my Printer thank you

[@mariuspaulbayertz8783]

Im an currently trying to update the firmware and get the exact same error. Did you ever resolve the problem? If yes, how did you do it?

[@eddieroux8850]

@@mariuspaulbayertz8783 Hi Guys, waiting for my PRO to be delivered next week. Obviously do not know the firmware version yet, but, did you guys sort this out? Thanks heaps. Eddie

[@christophergrace1085]

First, id like to say I am new to 3D printing... but I cant seem to get my N4+ to print consistently. I wish I could figure it out.

[@thecrustyferrule9595]

Please help! I recently bought the Neptune 4 Pro and have just been following this setup guide. I seem to be missing the Input shaping & PID calibration in the Advanced settings menu. The firmware for the printer and screen are up to date. Can anyone advise?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

The 4 pro doesn’t have the built in accelerometer. The pid can be tuned with a command but there isn’t a menu prompt for it. I would dig into klipper site tutorials. There’s tutorials there to manually tune all this via commands even the resonance without the accelerometer. I should have clarified that in the video sorry!!

[@thecrustyferrule9595]

@WildRoseBuilds No worries! Thanks for the advice. I actually found the pressure advance tuning once I'd accessed Klipper, the printer is running sweet 👌

[@balukrishna-t6y]

this was a very informative video

[@petarkis9567]

​@WildRoseBuilds can you do a video about input shaping for neptun 4 series

[@pokemonmandag2108]

If you have any questions......YES!.....YES I HAVE !!! How do you calibrate "BLOB OF DEATH" away.....i've had that twice now.......do you have a fix for that ?? Suddenly my prints stop sticking to the plate.....i've tried several cleaning solutions....like you and IPA and nothing works. ONLY thing i got to work is if i print first layer at 20mm/s or lower.....only the first layer....then it sticks and i can print fast on top of that.....but why doesn't it stick at standard speed??

[@dinxsy8069]

how to reduce the prominent layers though? i guess layer height

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Yeah layer height will do this. I tune for .16mm which gives relatively good results without taking days to print.

[@andredutra9152]

Since day one I cannot print anything. All attempts fails, except some 3MF preconfigured files like the BUDA and a testing tower. Any suggestions?

[@matthewnelson5984]

I have a Neptune 4 Pro and Cura was working perfectly but I needed to calibrate the prints better, Orca I thought would be perfect based on the video but for whatever reason the prints are not sticking to the bed and are incredibly thin even after calibrating the extruder. I don't know what setting is not making it work, someone help please

[@BARMAXAR]

Wonderful tunung guide! A little question - default Orca flowrate is set to 0.98 for N4Pro, should I always keep it at 1.00 after the flowrate calibration and editing printer.cfg?

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Yes that’s how I do it! I like having the round number 😅

[@genises200]

Man my most paintful part of this printer that i love is the fan! Noisey but the silent mode doesnt work on my printer. Its loud then silent mode is turned on but it last for 5 seconds before going back to normal and being loud again

[@WildRoseBuilds]

There’s a switch on top of the external fans to turn them off. I’ve heard people say they get pretty good results without them. But yes it’s a bit of a loud printer 🥵

[@Bartek2OO219]

Pls add timestamps in description for better navigation

[@jaimemachado4037]

Thank you for this!

[@Tetetu]

Thanks a lot for a good video

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Glad you liked it

[@Tetetu]

@@WildRoseBuilds question on pressure advance. you take 0.02*23=0.46 and you write down 0.046 where did the extra 0 come from?

[@АнгелПетров-я5ь]

Where were you 8 months ago when I got elegoo 4 Plus 😊😊😊

[@lukasdrungilas720]

Used the exact same printer with teh same settings and filament. Done all the steps as mentioned and i'm having trouble with the 1st pass flow test. It clears the nozzle and then proceeds to make the outline but once it starts to make the first sample it spews filament everywhere and clog up. I tried relevelling and calibrating 3 times and it wont sort it. I have printed things before this and it worked fine. I was going ot dial in my settings using this video but it is not working. please help

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Sounds like your flow rate might be improperly set? Double check in your settings that it’s at 1.0. Some slicers use a percentage for flow but orca slicer uses a whole number.

[@djmessina9278]

Thank you @WildRoseBuilds for your reply to that question. I am having the same problems and am currently working on the Z offset. I

[@BerserkerVision]

Amazing! Thank you!

[@AJ0517]

Hi! Do I need to change the flow rate after testing or leave it at 1?

[@DR-if8tx]

I would also like to know.

[@C-0-C-0]

@@DR-if8tx Same! I think you need to keep it at 1, but not sure

[@C-0-C-0]

He answered bellow. yes he keep the default setting at 1 after

[@chadrex3813]

I don't have Input Shaper or Nozzle PID calibration in my advanced settings on my Neptune 4 Pro. I'm running V1.1.3.1 - 2024.07.23. Anyone know if Elegoo took away these settings or are they not an option on the 4 Pro?

[@kennethmoody9841]

I tried printing the flow 3 times the -20 and -15 crap out and ruined the print can we not set this to print one square at a time ?

[@kennethmoody9841]

Correction I cant print this at all every time it fails because one of the flow parts detach 😞

[@rom1012]

Try putting some glue on the plate from the glue stick elegoo provides it might help. ​@@kennethmoody9841

[@woodfinchcrafts7267]

Increasing rotation distance reduces amount filament is extruded? Cannot be - you changed your distance the wrong way

[@mariotubelecce]

I would not touch rotation distance and rather play with extrusion multiplier for different settings

[@aftermancz]

Thank you so much!!!!!

[@Roody]

Well done. Thanks

[@elcanaldelasabiduria9033]

this video should be more advisable by yt algorit than you.bro❤

[@WildRoseBuilds]

the algo h8s me :(

[@camaradeKC]

well fck i never knew elegoo developped their own slicer, back in the day it was cura edited with elegoo parameter and i still use that XD. but yeah looks like a huge update in terms of slicer. PS : there is also the tolerance tunning if u want to make precise parts

[@WildRoseBuilds]

Technically it’s not made by elegoo but it’s brand agnostic which is nice. It’s open source and based on slic3r similar to Bambu studio and prusa slicer. The tolerance test is more of a test and less for tuning. Great for knowing what tolerance you need for snap fit part designing tho 😉 thanks for watching!

[@Alucard_PL]

Good video. Too bad I can't add it to my playlist.

[@Alucard_PL]

THX :)

[@colincampbell3679]

Blimey the testing and code changing looks complex to a newbie like me in klipper stuff? I got the Neptune 4 Plus and without any of this stuff I get good prints now! The bit about the Orca slicer, I downloaded it and installed it on a windows 11 laptop, it just don't see the printer on my network at all? My fluidd sees the printer and shows it printing though, But the slicer don't see the printer at all? I set it in the slider too. The local IP is right for the network as the fluidd sees the printer. My printer has the newest update too. I tried Cura and Prusa Slicer and both have the printer listed to add to the system which I do, But again Fluidd sees the printer But neither slicer sees it just like Orca don't. I having to do the old way of record the files on to the Thumb drive and put that in the printer to print. Also the Logitech C270 HD webcam I brought for the printer will not work when plugged in to either the full USB slot or the USB C slot by a USB adapter stick on the printer. It does work on the PC after the software was installed. So why not on the printer or the network when on the printer USB? And oddly the printer will print a model fine then when I see the screen on the printer pad it will have a error saying re-set the file system by clicking the icon on the screen? I do and the printer clears that error and will print fine again. It also won't let me do any Vibration tests without a error! I have to restart or refresh the Klipper firmware! Any ideas why all this trouble even though the printing is fine.

[@AnthonyLyle-ee1lw]

Followed your instructions and was3 able to install Klipper. Problem is that every file I try to upload and print, I get a "unable to open file". Any help ??

[@WildRoseBuilds]

What slicer are you using? Is your profile setup correctly and exporting a .gcode file type? how's the wifi signal to your printer, this has caused me some issues as a file transfer will timeout sometimes and cause that error!

[@Connors_Engines]

i want this printer but im afraid of it breaking or needing lots of money,, did they fix the issues? firmware and stuff