Pat Garrett: The Origins of the Legendary Old West Lawman

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

So what do you think about Pat Garrett? Hero lawman or backstabbing villain? Or somewhere in the middle? And what do you think about the events surrounding the death of Joe Briscoe? Think it really went down like that?

[@alexgehring1623]

Back stabber

[@McDanielRanch]

Think Mr fountain knows who pat was good or bad I guess I would ask him. Bad guy like most law men of the time period.

[@Bill_tyler]

Just as most were in his era

[@DgDanger72]

Bad guy most likely… if he did kill the Kid why not face him Mano a Mano instead in the dark… my two cents…. Now, the dude on the shitter was a real man. Forgot his name

[@plymouthduster225]

Think I'm gonna have to go with backstabber. Seems to have only been out for money and fame. Just my personal opinion. I haven't read a book on him yet but I plan to. Josh have the David G Thomas book Killing Pat Garret The Wild West Most Famous Lawman Murder or Self Defense? If you have I was curious what you thought of the book?

[@WVF112469]

You my friend create detailed paintings for the vision impaired and blind. Much appreciated and thank you!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

My pleasure! Thank you

[@jaycos3]

Love the Channel Josh your a man after my on heart.I think we old west history buffs are becoming a endangered species. 👍🇨🇮

[@jasonmatthews7829]

Pat and Billy's Facebook relationship would be one of those stories that wind on A&E crime documentaries when Billy drops him as a friend after Pat's election.

[@jasonmatthews7829]

@@chillin101 I imagine Doc Holliday would enjoy trolling Facebook trying to stir up trouble.

[@jonahhex8178]

Alright! Our boy Josh is getting some recognition! Don't forget us little people when you get super famous.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Haha yeah right

[@saint_spine2551]

Listening to you while playing red dead redemption 2 is one of the best things a person can experience in his lifetime

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Heck yeah

[@alanleemaxwell831]

God, I love this channel!!! Been a western frontier nut all my life-definitely my fave period of history-anywhere!!! There's no better channel to watch it on either!!! 🙏🇬🇧👍

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks man!!!!

[@alanleemaxwell831]

@@WildWestExtravaganza you're very welcome!!!

[@bavarianbrit1]

I lived in his daughters house in Roswell back in 1992-3 it was a characterful adobe small house. Elizabeth Garrett house (location 102 S. Lea, Roswell, NM). Elizabeth Garrett, the “Songbird of the Southwest,” returned to Las Cruces with the death of her sister Anne. Shortly after, Garrett returned to the Pecos Valley of her childhood, and had her own stuccoed adobe house built in Roswell by Frank Stanhardt, according to the interview with Redfield. She filled “La Casita,” as she named her home, with color, light and things New Mexican. The house was built to her specifications, including using ramps and handrails instead of steps. She had flowers everywhere and the shades were never drawn over the windows. Her décor included sun symbol designs and thunderbirds, along with brightly colored Navajo rugs and native pottery. The house had a kiva fireplace and an outdoor fireplace for grilling. A Steinway grand piano paid for by generous friends and donations from school children of New Mexico highlighted one room. She lived in this home until her death.

[@haroldvoss5886]

History with the Josh style humor, and sarcasm, always makes an afternoon after work with a cold beer and ya feet kicked up so much better

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hell yeah

[@whoopwhoop1584]

When i see this podcast im able to forget some of my stress in life thanks josh

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

That's what I like to hear

[@whoopwhoop1584]

@@WildWestExtravaganza I appreciate it seems like my life is doing that thing that keeps me from sleeping a break from my daggum thoughts with good history is what's up and congrats you have come a long way and deserve it

[@nickbloch1288]

I’m so grateful for a fun educational western channel. Keep doing your great work brother

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks, will do!

[@kennedyrowland3272]

LETS GOOO A PAT GARRETT SERIES? Boy you sure spoil us Josh. Thanks a ton!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I'm trying

[@KevinSmith-yh6tl]

This was great, I really appreciate all the effort you put into your show.👌

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Gracias

[@Sandbarfight]

Great work bud thanks again for the hard work.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thank you for listening

[@chriscraus6530]

Great work again Josh! Thank you for putting it out there for us.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

My pleasure!

[@James-tf7hc]

Thank goodness... The waiting.... Is the hardest part. Coolest dude Talkin about the coolest stuff...

[@bluelouboyle6701]

Thanks! Great stuff as always!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@darrenhogan7347]

Currently driving across Canada, this was great! Thanks josh!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Drive safe!

[@MTGAttitude]

I've been waiting for this one...thanks Matt

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hope you like it!

[@PieceMind-rq8yx]

I watched the series Billy the Kid & came here for the truth! I knew you'd have it.❤

[@Maximus-sm4ue]

Best channel of it's kind of right here, you make it so fun so listen to, I love all the witty jokes!

[@brendanmcdonnell7483]

Old pat was a man of the times who had enough balls to go after Billy bonnie and kill him so most definitely not a coward, I'd be no expert but that's enough for me, pat took care of a big problem for new Mexico and maybe be remembered better, great video again but they always are.

[@mistyjames810]

Excellent video Josh! 🤠 😎 👍

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks Misty

[@kennedyrowland3272]

NEW EPISODE TOMORROW LETS GOO!! Can’t wait for pt. 2

[@Wilson-fm4lg]

Another great one josh I can't wait to hear about the other side of the billy pat coin next week. I think pat wanted to be as big as billy but all he could do was ride his coat tails and become infamous instead of a hero like he wanted.

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

Congrats on the into history partnership Josh that sounds extremely exciting I'll definitely check it out.

[@dennistate5953]

Grundy County TN adjoins Chattanooga's Hamilton County. In Greutli Lager, a tiny coal camp nearly, i had to serve a subpoena, alone. So thinking well under influence of urgency & adrenaline, i went to his mom's house & had her call him to be served in her living room. More'n 1 way to skin a cat, and this time 1 more happened to work. "...welcome to Tennessee, the patron state of shootin' stuff."

[@dennistate5953]

@@Shannon_Dobbs lucky grrl. Gorgeous up there, as I imagine you are!

[@dennistate5953]

Dunno bout them 2 dudes, but i am thoroughly satisfied that Josh is a joshin' josher, and there i hang my hat. Sir.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hell yeah

[@barryhoggle2354]

another home run i really love your work josh

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I appreciate it

[@BenSHammonds]

there is a historical marker not far from me just north of Homer Louisiana on Pat Garrett, this is just a little ways north of where Bonnie and Clyde were killed. Im in Northeast corner of Texas

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Cool, didn't know that. What does it say?

[@jedgarren2901]

This reminds me of RFK's Get Hoffa Squad. Seems like the New Mexico Fat Cats hired a one man Get Billy squad. Another great episode Bloody Beaver Actual

[@dperl5640]

I have a complaint - Damnit next time it is gonna be a 2 part video WARN US BEFORE HAND! It is too good to have to wait! Give us the choice to wait and be able to watch a double vid when next one comes out! LOL Not actually a complaint this is more of a compliment. Hopefully that came across when reading this.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

My bad! This will probably end up being a 4-5 parter

[@dperl5640]

@@WildWestExtravaganza I don't think anyone would complain if that were the case! Let us know!!

[@andrewmodell5889]

I think this is so fascinating ...

[@donc9751]

Whaaaaat!! How was I not 1st! I've been a looking and a waiting then Shazam! A new video just out hours ago! Better late than never! It already gets a like!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks Don!

[@dannysimmons3167]

Can’t wait for the next one

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Next week!

[@garyolsavsky4667]

Josh, a know nonsense story about Pat Garrett. Good job. Keep up the good work!

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks Gary

[@ElMarko6994]

You know a cook named Grundy’s specialty is beans and toast

[@rameychisum2891]

John Simpson Chisum is a cousin on my dad's side. My hometown is Lee's Summit named for Dr. Pleasant Lea, the railroad misspelled it mistaking the source as Robert E. Lee. Dr. Pleasant Lea's son is Joseph Calloway Lea nicknamed the father of Roswell, there is no H is Lea.

[@DgDanger72]

Congrats brother!

[@podunkmissouri4999]

Glad you clarified it isn't lindsey graham the politician. I was starting to think you were a little light in your loafers.

[@tommywright7196]

I enjoyed this one like I do every episode you do it was very interesting because the only thing I knew about Pat is that he killed Billy the kid

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks Tommy

[@jameskelly7782]

Josh, is there any validity to the "big casino/little casino" stories?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I was wondering the same thing. It looks like "little casino" and "big casino" comes from the 1936 book The Real Billy the Kid by Miguel Otero. Is it accurate? I don't know. I think there's suspicion that Otero had a ghost writer just like Garrett.

[@swhip897]

Josh, I'm gonna have to listen the free stuff. ❤❤😅

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

It's all good!

[@swhip897]

Ya know I have to listen more then once.😮😅 There is alot in each chapter. The series made it a whole lot easier to LEARN ..😮😂❤❤

[@BenSHammonds]

here is a bit about book on Buffalo Jones: Synopsis The Last of the Plainsmen tells the thrilling story of Buffalo Jones and the impact he had on the great wild west! Zane Grey explains in his own exquisite words the following: He [Buffalo Jones] was born sixty-two years ago on the Illinois prairie, and he has devoted practically all of his life to the pursuit of wild animals. It has been a pursuit which owed its unflagging energy and indomitable purpose to a singular passion, almost an obsession, to capture alive, not to kill. He has caught and broken the will of every well-known wild beast native to western North America. Killing was repulsive to him. He even disliked the sight of a sporting rifle, though for years necessity compelled him to earn his livelihood by supplying the meat of buffalo to the caravans crossing the plains. At last, seeing that the extinction of the noble beasts was inevitable, he smashed his rifle over a wagon wheel and vowed to save the species. For ten years he labored, pursuing, capturing and taming buffalo, for which the West gave him fame, and the name Preserver of the American Bison. In the spring of 1907 I was the fortunate companion of the old plainsman on a trip across the desert, and a hunt in that wonderful country of yellow crags, deep canyons and giant pines. I want to tell about it. I want to show the color and beauty of those painted cliffs and the long, brown-matted bluebell-dotted aisles in the grand forests; I want to give a suggestion of the tang of the dry, cool air; and particularly I want to throw a little light upon the life and nature of that strange character and remarkable man, Buffalo Jones.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Awesome! Thanks

[@brentokeeffe9671]

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[@godwarrior3403]

I've heard combat vets talk about camping in video games, where you hide in a corner and wait for your target to pass by, and they've said if that's cowardly then all soldiers are cowards. In reality it's just good tactics. Only the most psychotic would have gun fighting experience and have notions about giving the other guy a fair chance.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Yep

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Can you explain what you mean by "cowardly in mutual combat"?

[@swhip897]

@@WildWestExtravaganza I know the British accused our Patriots of this. Hiding in the bushes is exactly what I would do.👀🤔

[@godwarrior3403]

@@mikearnold7982 I mean, you're wrong. So there's that. I learn about a lot of different eras of history and the honor you just described has never existed except in our romantizations of the past.

[@kenkeller7395]

Just a heads up UT is killing you with commercials almost ready to tune out

[@thejakefromstatefarm6768]

The man that hides in the dark to shoot a kid. A dangerous kid but still

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Devil's advocate: Should he have stood under a light and let the Kid shoot first?

[@swhip897]

Would a poker player show his hand???

[@thejakefromstatefarm6768]

@@WildWestExtravaganza of course

[@thejakefromstatefarm6768]

@@swhip897 I don’t know, does a poker player die after the hand is played?

[@swhip897]

@@thejakefromstatefarm6768 sometimes..

[@garrettmiller7664]

I think we would just have had to been there

[@williamemerson1799]

Claude Dallas. Out and about. 👍🍻

[@McDanielRanch]

Yes sir he is. hope he's camped out in the mt. Never to be bothered again.

[@williamemerson1799]

@@McDanielRanch Hope so, but honestly, I'm a year younger than he is and I don't know if I could do it. He was born right up the road.

[@McDanielRanch]

@@williamemerson1799 idk man he's a breed of a different kind. I'd like to think he's right back in the mt. Were he always wanted to be. Traping and living hand to mouth.

[@r.shanethompson7933]

What about Claude? Last I had heard he was up in Alaska. Has he passed on? There are some men that just won't be pushed. Claude being a perfect example.

[@williamemerson1799]

@@r.shanethompson7933 Still around far as I know. Haven't read otherwise.

[@davidhall1840]

Good job Josh

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Thanks

[@silverwave2238]

The man famous for killing the kid, but never could be the kid. I get a robert ford vibe from Garrett.

[@BenSHammonds]

have you ever read up on Buffalo Jones, from around Garden City KS who helped to save the buffalo species, he had a interesting life, Zane Grey even wrote a novel about him, the US gov. was behind a lot of the buffalo killing, their intent being to starve the natives onto reservations.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

No, I haven't yet. Sounds interesting though

[@BenSHammonds]

@@WildWestExtravaganza would make a good program, he had quite a life and at one time was well known for his work saving the buffalo, the book is The Last of the Plainsmen

[@mistyjames810]

​@@BenSHammondshi Ben, I've read that book, it's great!

[@SumDumGy]

I’d have to look at the dates again but Jose Chavez y Chavez was released from prison the same year Garrett was mysteriously murdered, right?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Chavez was released about 11 days later

[@SumDumGy]

@@WildWestExtravaganza Damn. Very interesting how close that is though.

[@based_prophet]

This guy went through more by 17 then most men

[@garrettmiller7664]

Hope you get a chance to do lewis holmdahl

[@garrettmiller7664]

They say he stole pancho villas head

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I'm hoping to

[@glasair38sr]

I heard Jack Ruby smoked Garret prior to that other vengeance killing.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Ha

[@Sandbarfight]

I know a charlie grundle from Philly though😂

[@alexgehring1623]

Best movie. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. By Sam Pecknipah

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

That's a good one

[@williamemerson1799]

Where can I find The Real Lonesome Dove?

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Hello William. That episode is currently only available on Patreon due to it's low quality - both in content and audio. However, I will be rerecording it soon (hopefully!)

[@williamemerson1799]

@@WildWestExtravaganza Thanks. Great movie, my wife hates it because, well I love it.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

It's one of the best!

[@sillythekid7380]

I just think of the candy of my youth. Good ol country Honey taffy made by none other than some Grundys. Lol

[@MsJon52]

why you are not snapped up by Hollywood narrating Tarentino ( spelling may not be correct ) movies and others, especially wild west movies, you have got to send a sound track to them

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

You're too kind! Thank you!

[@JennaGordon-l7g]

Just found out I am related to him..

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Very cool

[@rialobran]

The Twitter battle would make Musk and Zuck look like a lovefest

[@tanberetO]

Josh! Been too long buddy.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Where you been?

[@tanberetO]

@@WildWestExtravaganza listening on Audible. Back listening to you here. Putting out awesome stuff, much love brother.

[@HueroVat]

The Kid had to be killed. If not Garrett it would have been someone else. It’s just destiny.

[@JustDefense]

"Wreak havoc," pronounced "reek," not wreck havoc.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Whoops

[@edwardmauch2918]

The world always balances the scales……..

[@r.shanethompson7933]

I sure wish it were so but I just can make myself believe that anymore.

[@fleadoggreen9062]

They have coyote and prairie dog hunters that do it for the thrill of it, I worked with a prairie dog gun nut, he felt he was helping the farm owner 🤷‍♀️, he was ok guy a little weird but whatever

[@MicahBell_1860]

I'll go rhythm

[@dwaynemeeks7583]

Who knows what the real truth is. I think its probably somewhere in the middle

[@KeonKemp-pg4pk]

I have a Belt buckle with the name pat sep 6 1887 on it

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Very cool

[@attilathehun0]

👍👍

[@geraldgriffin8220]

Oddly, Garrett is about as Irish as names get..maybe he was "passing" 🤨

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

What do you mean?

[@geraldgriffin8220]

Garrett is a very common Irish name - but a lot of people who didn't have the obvious O' or Mc would downplay the " Irish thing" even to the point where Murphy would be spelled Morphy..A lot of Garretts in Ireland even to this day.

[@zombie_snax]

Don't ever discuss Pat Garrett... He was worse than a bad lier or fraud... we should all forget his name because of all his lies !

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

You can't tell me how to live my life

[@darwinswille3795]

He may not of killed billy the kid because he nocked up pat Garrett ex wife sister and thus did not kill him but let billy go. Billy was staying there with Garrett in-laws. Billy’s death was staged or Garrett killed the wrong. Man. There is evidence of this real evidence of such

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

What's the evidence?

[@danielwebster5748]

i dont know how much sheriffs made by then. i lnow when they made a new county in ariona wyatt and behan wanted it. Behan much more outgoing won the job. It oaid a ridiculous salary of 40000 a yr and half of all fines. This in a day when most men made 30 to 50 per month

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

That's over a million in today's money

[@nonagrey3422]

lol I stopped listening as soon as you brought up Billy the Kid being an alien...

[@tom-c1j2p]

HEY BUDDY LISTEN TO VOICE INTERVIEW AND REAL FACTS, BILLY WASN'T KILLED IN FT SUMNER. The "Death" of Billy the Kid - Part III - Nobody Ever Questioned Pat Garrett Edition (2.5 Hours) BILLY THE KID LIVED FOR A WHILE AT MY GREAT UNCLES HACIENDA EARLY 1900'S VERY MUCH ALIVE LIVING IN MEXICO , PAT WAS BILLY'S PAL

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

KZbin does not count as credible historical source material

[@nastynando]

*Bison

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

What did I say?

[@clintonlunn4357]

Ole garret laid the pipe so good it killed her.

[@danielwebster5748]

Witnesses stated when he MIGHT hsve shot billy he went running in the opposite direction screaming like a woman.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I've never read that account. Know where I could find it?

[@BrushyBill-eo5og]

The worst five cent novelist who tries to depict history ever. His book on the epilogue alone would have home telling fables…. The kids father fell in battle and is entombed in Nashville National Cemetery. Garrett lives with and off a whore and pawns off a couple of weapons as the ones that kill The Kid… he as well is. Customs agent dielectric of duty at best. I ponder why New Mex picks him as the side of their car. Are they drunks following anyone? Appointed by questionable authority? Or accustomed to not letting justice be served? I’m sure none of the above, but E.T would be better served on the sides of their cars than any Garrett would.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Do you think Brushy Bill was more honest than Garrett?

[@BrushyBill-eo5og]

I love you picked up on the name. No I do not believe this.

[@BrushyBill-eo5og]

Now would you like to pick up with the very little information I have, and carry on from this?

[@BrushyBill-eo5og]

Seeing you won’t reply, thoughts about a certain grave marked plot J 14600 inside of the said cemetery? Or military records which depict the Kids father meeting his demise in battle? Let alone Garrett’s epilogue which places said father in Coffeyville K.S which would be impossible due to an enlistment to the Army.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Brother, I don't know what you want from me...to defend Garrett's book?

[@rodneyarmstrong3813]

Just like the 1920s Dust Bowl, I don't believe that they were getting everything they could to destroy the land, they were just trying to make all the money they could from farming.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

I agree

[@lordredfettkiller5276]

*Bison, buffalo do not and have never lived in North America.

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

Did I also use the term bison?

[@lordredfettkiller5276]

@@WildWestExtravaganza yes you did, just making a statement. Not insulting your vocabulary or intelligence.

[@lordredfettkiller5276]

@@WildWestExtravaganza also neither have I ever been nor will I ever be bested by a Texan!!! Oklahomans have been whippin y’all’s buts since the dawn of America and willl keep doing it!! South side of the red river trash!!

[@lordredfettkiller5276]

Still love your videos though!! So don’t block me just yet, we might end up friends

[@WildWestExtravaganza]

@@lordredfettkiller5276 we friends