WILL A SHOP VAC WORK AS A DUST COLLECTOR??

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Alex Quiroz

Alex Quiroz

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Hi everyone! Here is a much needed review for all wood workers and shops that are interested in their own dust collecting system! This test, in my opinion, will make any person happy with the results as it will be easier on your wallet when it comes to this project!
This video includes a dust collection system, shop vac style vacuum, dust collection fittings and the Dust Deputy and how it works.
Why does anyone need a shop dust collecting system? A dust collector will assist with keeping you healthy and your shop clean! Dust will avoid your lungs and enter the shop vac. It will suck the majority of the dust through the piping of the dust collector and stay off your wood shop floor!
Thanks again for watching this dust collecting video! All support is greatly appreciated!!!
-Alex Q

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@akaredcrossbow
@akaredcrossbow 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2” system with the same Dust Deputy mounted on 2 Home Depot 5 gallon buckets(one inside the other to prevent collapse) connected to a Ridgid 5.0 HP vacuum and I feel the system sometimes has to much suctioning power. If I placed that plastic bag near any of my ports it would’ve violently ripped it out of my hand. Yours has power and will work, but I think you need to either get a more powerful vacuum or reduce the size of the catch bucket and your results will be much better. You did a great job installing the pipe! Double check if you have leaks in the system. I noticed with all your blast gates closed the sound of your vacuum didn’t change, indicating something open or a leak. 👍🏻👍🏻
@somebody655
@somebody655 Жыл бұрын
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@robthompson8285
@robthompson8285 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the most complete and detailed dust collection setups I've ever seen. Well done!
@agr00m
@agr00m 4 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred to see the wood chips being vacuumed vs watching them in the dust deputy. Obviously they end up there, but the performance/suction at the end node seems like it would be more crucial to see.
@kenhunter7689
@kenhunter7689 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex. I don't often respond to workshop videos (there's not a lot of really new and innovating stuff out there). You've done a great video here. But I would really like to commend the great father that you are. You have a wonderful son, and that is in every way due to your respect and treatment of him.
@PaganWizard
@PaganWizard 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anyone do a video with a Dust Deputy on a larger trash can like you did. This was very well done, and very well explained. If I may offer a suggestion to you, it would be to always have at least one blast gate open while your shop vac is on. Having all the blast gates closed puts a lot of strain on the vacuum motor. Even if it's for just a few seconds until you get to the desired tool, all those seconds each time you turn the vacuum on, add up, and eventually can cause damage or failure to the shop vac. I think it's awesome that you're bringing your son into the workshop to get him interested in learning something that is no longer being taught in most schools.
@scottgotreaux7235
@scottgotreaux7235 Ай бұрын
Time teaching your children skills and just father time is invaluable. Great looking young man.
@funfreq9282
@funfreq9282 5 жыл бұрын
When I first setup my small shop I tried doing a system like this and though it did work it fell short on doing it effectively, meaning I had to always cleanup around the cutting area. CFM is paramount! you can have suction at each location like you have demonstrated but if you are not moving the CFM you just can't move enough air to really grab all the chip and dust from the tool (especially the table saw). I wound up getting a Grizzly G0703 2 stage in polar white on close out for around $650. I ran it using 4" pvc drain pipe with a total length 50' using 7 - 4" blast gates! It takes care of my Lethe, Band saw, Table saw, Miter saw, Belt sander, Spindle sander and CNC. Cool build and it is better than nothing! but once you have spent time with it you will eventually see the short falls.
@1kwgentil
@1kwgentil Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I suspected would happen. Currently I just hook my shop vac to whatever tool I'm using at the time, and I know when the filter is clogged because it just doesn't have the cfms sick in the dust. I bet this will ultimately act just like a shop vac with a clogged filter. Yes it still has suction, but just doesn't get the job done
@charlescheesman1318
@charlescheesman1318 3 жыл бұрын
CFM vs. Static Pressure, defined Air volume is measured in cubic feet per minute (CFM) or liter per second (l/s)--the volume of air that the device can move from its intake to its exhaust in a given amount of time. Static pressure is measured in inches of water (often referred to as inches water column, or inches WC), as in, how many inches the suction device can lift water up a pipe, or in millibar (mbar). In simple terms, static pressure determines how much resistance (“static pressure loss”) your dust collector can overcome in order to move a given volume of air through the hoses and pipes. When it comes to designing a dust collection system, the raw CFM figure is initially more important than the raw static pressure figure, though static pressure does come into play once you start designing your ductwork (more on this later). Is that enough CFM and static pressure? WOOD Magazine has a great article on calculating CFM and static pressure requirements for dust collection. Although the worksheets in the article may look intimidating at first glance, they aren't too difficult to fill out. The article includes some typical CFM requirements for various tools, some of which I've included or summarized below. Table saw, radial arm saw, miter saw, bandsaw: 350 CFM, 165 l/s Belt, disc, or drum sander: 350-550 CFM, 165-260 l/s (depending on size) Table-mounted router: 195 CFM, 92 l/s Thickness planer, up to 13": 400 CFM, 190 l/s Thickness planer, 14"-20": 785 CFM, 370 l/s Now let's look at some contenders for an entry-level dust collection system. As of this writing, a ”6.5 peak horsepower” Shop-Vac® vacuum rated at 9.3A@120V produces 185 CFM (87 l/s) of airflow and 64 inches (160 mbar) of pressure. That's not even adequate for the least-demanding machine in the list, falling 10 CFM (5 l/s) short for a router table. In practical terms, this means the vacuum won't be able to produce the recommended 4000 FPM (feet per minute)/2 m/s (meters per second) linear air velocity necessary to capture most of the dust particles produced by the tool. (Note that the 4000 FPM/2 m/s figure somewhat oversimplifies things but it is a good, convenient figure for making realistic estimates.) By comparison, a 1hp Grizzly dust collector rated at 8A@110V produces 500 CFM/235 l/s and 2.76"/7 mbar of static pressure. As you can see from the CFM figures above, under ideal conditions this dust collector should be able to capture most of the dust from most tools except larger sanders and 14" or larger planers. Remember, I said that was under ideal conditions. This is where static pressure comes into play. Every inch of pipe or hose, every turn, and every change in diameter produces resistance which your dust collector (or vacuum) must overcome. You can use one of the various static pressure calculators such as Bill Pentz's static pressure Excel spreadsheet to calculate the static pressure drop produced by your ductwork and hoses. For the Grizzly 1hp dust collector we looked at earlier, the total static pressure drop can be no more than 2.76"/7 mbar. If you plug only 500 CFM/235 l/s and 7 feet (2 m) of 4" (10 cm) flex hose into the calculator, you'll see the static pressure drop is almost 3"/7.5 mbar, so we already need to look at a more powerful dust collector. Although this is the simplest way to size a dust collector, you don't suddenly go from 500 CFM to 0 CFM. The excessive static pressure loss simply reduces the airflow through the system. Some manufacturers or magazines provide the CFM curves at various static pressures, which is helpful in determining whether you can sacrifice a few CFM for a longer run of pipe or hose while maintaining the recommended 4000 FPM air velocity. Other considerations In addition to the fact that a Shop-Vac just isn't suitable for stationary power tools, one of the dust collector's greatest advantages over a Shop-Vac is that it has a larger hose and is less likely to clog from chips and shavings. Whereas a Shop-Vac typically has a maximum hose size of around 2-1/2 inches/6 cm, a dust collector hose (or pipe) is typically 4 inches/10 cm or larger and is less likely to clog. Getting back to your questions, you asked whether a dust collector can (1) pick up or (2) filter things that a shop-vac can't. We've already answered the first question (yes, a dust collector can “pick up” more). HEPA-rated filters can remove 99.97% of particles down to 0.3 microns. You can buy these types of filters for both Shop-Vacs and dust collectors, so technically the answer to the second question is yes but it just depends on what type of filter you buy (and, in some cases, how determined you are to adapt such a filter to your machine if your manufacturer doesn't offer one). Of course, even the best dust collector will not capture all the dust, and even if you pony up the cash for a HEPA filter your dust collector will disperse some amount of fine dust back into the air. That is why you should try to exhaust your dust collector outside if it is practical (while also venting outside air back into the shop), and you should still wear a well-fitted respirator with replaceable P100 (HEPA-equivalent) filter, regardless of any other precautions.
@patrickevans6712
@patrickevans6712 10 ай бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@GlockmanGG
@GlockmanGG 2 жыл бұрын
I made one of these for dust collection, I used a HF 4 horsepower vacuum and it works great , if the five gallon bucket starts to cave in the sides , the line has a clog in it and will cause this to happen, picking up aluminum chips will cause this to happen. Great job on the video .
@divennarayan4949
@divennarayan4949 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! This is what I was looking for. You answered my question about using 2" pipe and a shop vacuum!! Cheers 🍻
@rickymcgrath2314
@rickymcgrath2314 5 жыл бұрын
I’m having a hard time believing that the Craftsman vac will have the CFM to handle that planer. Best I can tell is that you can get about 115 CFM from that vac. I run that same planer on a 165 cfm dust collector directly connected and the planer still over powers the system and I have to relieve the positive pressure created in the system which allows chips to escape freely.
@dougprentice1363
@dougprentice1363 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice to see an update on this video. I can't see this working with planer and table saw. I think the planner will clog the small pipe. And there isn't enough cfm for table saw.
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 5 жыл бұрын
Nice setup and explaining how you did it.. Still far from cheap but 1K+ to a $130 shop vac.. You have a winner
@fightington
@fightington 10 ай бұрын
Cool vid and a very polite/friendly/genuine comments section. Good job guys, a very rare thing in what is usually a toxic swamp
@keithedwards1038
@keithedwards1038 10 ай бұрын
Nice setup. I have a very small shop and I have been looking at how to make a similar one for my lathe. Thank you for sharing this.
@gunnyoorah1846
@gunnyoorah1846 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Thank u for taking the time to share. I am deplored right now but we will watching your videos. and emulating your shop. G'd bless you and America. Know that we are ready and orders have been given.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate 5 жыл бұрын
"I shot the shop-vac, but I did not shoot the dust deputy..."
@traviscallahan7178
@traviscallahan7178 3 жыл бұрын
So random.. but so good.
@RADCOMJ1
@RADCOMJ1 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahaha
@mongomay1
@mongomay1 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Alex, Long term you may find maintenance of your system easier if you put your gate valves on a horizontal or straight out the top so they do not act like dead legs and accumulate dust from other systems in use down stream. What kind of seal do you have on the garbage can lid, could be getting some loss there?
@bradb2672
@bradb2672 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, great way to showcase the work you've done to improve your shop setup! I actually did a smaller, but similar setup for my garage. I'm using an almost identical sized trash can, and dust deputy, but for some reason my trash can keeps caving in on itself. How did you fix this issue? Thanks!
@KevinJames-o2j
@KevinJames-o2j 7 ай бұрын
I had the same issue with my 5 gallon bucket. Try placing your trash can into another trash can. The outer can won't cave in.
@searcy95
@searcy95 4 жыл бұрын
Always have a blast gate open during start-up or you'll burn the motor up on the vac !
@southernstar4353
@southernstar4353 5 жыл бұрын
Man, i wish i could thumbs up this more than once for getting your son involved. Good on you man. Great shop too. Going to go watch more of your vids to help support ya.
@MultiChuckleberry
@MultiChuckleberry 4 жыл бұрын
I built an almost identical system in the UK using 50mm (2") pipe. It works like a charm. I used transparent flexible pipe for the corners so I can see the dust/chippings shoot around the bends. I have a good domestic tub vacuum-cleaner to power it and it is perfectly adequate. ypu need a minimum of 50mm (2") diameter pipe. Any smaller and there will be a tedency for a chip from the router-table to jam in the sytem and then you have the issue of finding where the jam is. Do not be tempted to use a 40mm (1.57") or 1 1/2" pipe. To keep costs down you can make your own blast-gates from high density polyethelene. There are plentry of instructionals on KZbin on how to do this. You can everything you need on ebay. Good system. Thx for the vid!!
@kevinchappell3694
@kevinchappell3694 4 жыл бұрын
I have a similar setup but am using a FEIN shop vac enclosed in a power vented felt lined box. Only 58 dBa, below speech volume! Great as I use the vac to suction a hand sanding station that is a long and quiet operation. The dust cyclone is a perfect addition as it allows the shop vac to keep it's efficient and filters clean. I did have to use 4 4" duct booster fans ($100) to keep the vac at 36 degrees C.
@88rushrocks
@88rushrocks Жыл бұрын
I have the same sit up although mine is from habor freight with a 5 gal bucket I am now going to be using the 55 gal thanks for the information it helps many 😊
@tommysts1920
@tommysts1920 5 жыл бұрын
I pretty much have the same set-up and your right it works just fine and will save a lot of money if you are on a budget like me! Great video and nice shop too!
@AlexQuiroz
@AlexQuiroz 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom F! Thanks so much for the comment and I’m glad I set this up this way as well because in the future if I need to upgrade to a larger dust collector, it will just be a matter of switching the vacs out and the piping will remain. For the time being this works great, as I’m sure you know. Thanks for the comment!
@alimaleki217
@alimaleki217 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video; I love how organized everything is. I think a better test of suction is to show sawdust being vacuumed up. You may find that it’s not up to the task of of clearing most of the sawdust from your table saw after that long run. You can always add an inexpensive Harbor Freight dust collector which has more than enough suction.
@johnford7847
@johnford7847 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I hope you have a follow-up video showing the effectiveness when you're using the tools. Thanks for the video.
@deconkeys562
@deconkeys562 5 жыл бұрын
I have been using a setup similar to yours for several years in my turning shop. I only use three outlets to my piping, and leave enough hose at each to clean that area. My turning shed is adjacent to my garage, so to cut down on noise I moved my vac to the garage and added a remote outlet from home dept. ( Westek RFK1606LC ) I can now listen to the radio while I turn. - Good video - The Dust Deputy is great!
@robertbateman3665
@robertbateman3665 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely, I have the same shop vac, Dust Deputy and big plastic garbage can as you have. My garbage can kept collapsing so I cobbled a vacuum brake and inserted it atop the Dust Deputy. Now it relieves the vacuum if the line gets plugged for some reason. The makeshift valve "whistles" when the line is plugged that works as a tattle tale also. My garbage can doesn't collapse anymore either. I use a remote pendant to control my shop vac. I do like your piping system. Thanks.
@nore8141
@nore8141 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel because this setup is a lot cheaper than I thought. Thanks for the tutorial. ❤
@bigmac1598
@bigmac1598 5 жыл бұрын
Mark great vid. Keep doing it. If you had placed the bin for the vac vac at the mid point of the system with a blast gate either side the efficiency would be better, just by shutting off half of the system.
@georgeburchett5798
@georgeburchett5798 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking too. I wonder if He has considered it if he ever needs to upgrade. I think this is a very good suggestion that would reduce friction loss by 50%.
@boss350z5
@boss350z5 5 жыл бұрын
in the small shop/home media blasting world this is extremely common... in fact most small cabinets come with common size hose ports for this very purpose. Nice set up.
@DavesTreeFarm
@DavesTreeFarm 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. FYI, I have the same planer in my shop. That planer puts out much more air volume than the shop vac will pull in. So the net effect is that the seal on the vac will break and dust will spill out. At least that is what happened to my set up using Shop Vac brand 12 gallon vac.
@ToddMoore1
@ToddMoore1 Жыл бұрын
3years late, but.... I had no idea planers put out air. 💀
@MoreBear
@MoreBear 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Can you do a video showing the dust collector working with the tools like the mitre saw and router?
@matthewsilva8225
@matthewsilva8225 5 жыл бұрын
This is great! Awesome video. Thanks for doing this. I always felt like single person wood shops don’t need the giant 4 inch dust collection systems.
@alexfrederick9019
@alexfrederick9019 4 жыл бұрын
They help grab more of the dust from around the tools.
@Stabby__
@Stabby__ 3 жыл бұрын
The entry lvl 4 in dust collection systems are priced very well now, they work so much better than the SV. If you just running a single machine then nothing wrong with direct connection to a SV
@Normal1855
@Normal1855 4 жыл бұрын
This gave me a clear idea on how to run my pipes, and what to use.
@barrypolis6720
@barrypolis6720 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, props on a great job with your piping... Top notch couplers and blast gates. I noticed you had a DeWalt 735 planer. I have one suggestion on that. The 735 has a *very* powerful impeller fan for dust extraction built in. So powerful, in fact, that a) you don't need a separate DC system; and b) even though it has a combo 2-1/2" / 4" adapter, you can actually get shavings blowback using just the 2-1/2". I've found best case is connecting a 4" short rigid flex-hose from the planer port to a 30 micron Dust Right bag that you can put right under your stand. It keeps the planer "happy" (no blowback shavings collecting on the planer bed), and you don't need to run the DC at the same time (easier on the ears if you're doing lots of planing). But, thumbs up on your setup and equipment... Great video. Wish I had that much space as well...
@oliverdunn1626
@oliverdunn1626 4 жыл бұрын
Dewalt sells a kit that connects to a 32 gallon trash can and works pretty well except that the strings that tighten the shroud is a little difficult to use.
@jcv200597
@jcv200597 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo! I'm going to consider this configuration!
@chancetolbert4852
@chancetolbert4852 Жыл бұрын
you could also build a sound proof box for the shop vac to limit the noise
@jonathanroberts227
@jonathanroberts227 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just a kid but 8 make stuff I used a bauer cyclone separator and a bauer 4 horsepower shopvac
@apswirl
@apswirl Жыл бұрын
Great video. Gotta say, if a shop vac can create enough suction over that much distance, then my plan for a straight line of about 14 feet should work brilliantly!
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 3 жыл бұрын
I've been running my shop dust collection system off an old Dyson upright I found on the side of the road for free and a dust deputy on a 40 gallon drum for years. It works amazing. Debris has never made it as far as the Dyson to need cleaning. Everything ends up in the drum.
@brianrichardson7403
@brianrichardson7403 Жыл бұрын
I have a power bar that's made for this type of setup. When you turn on any tool that's plugged into it, there's a slight delay and then the vacuum turns on too.
@heyemcali
@heyemcali 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Did I miss you saying what the horsepower is on your vac? I couldn’t tell. This is exactly what I’m doing right now in my (very tiny) shop! Thanks for the great walk-through!
@rennyblack9933
@rennyblack9933 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed you have some pretty rude trolls at the end of the comments. I enjoyed the value of education offered by commenters who know about vacuum systems and, especially, what you offered in this video. I'd suggest that you simply block any users who troll you. Please spare your audience members who want to learn things the agony of having to suffer the vapid troll nonsense by blocking their garbage. Thank you for the video. It helped me, and I appreciate what you're doing to bring us content.
@Vanil_bean_for_life
@Vanil_bean_for_life 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly didn't have much faith in the shop vac setup, you have changed my mind on that thanks for the content 👍
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 4 жыл бұрын
For me, I have found it is good for small dust volume tools, but much prefer the higher collection that my big dust collector gives me. ie I bought a laguna 14-12 bandsaw and initially just used my shop vac, I had to do a lot more cleanup afterwards as a lot of sawdust was left in the saw. Getting a dust deputy helped keep the suction from reducing over time, but still did not pick up everything from the saw. Once I moved to a laguna pflux 1.5hp, almost no dust is left in the saw. Very cool video, thanks for sharing. :)
@chancetolbert4852
@chancetolbert4852 Жыл бұрын
as far as a switch for the vac, you could install a bunch of switches across the room near each piece of equipment and wire them all in parallel.
@4hammonds672
@4hammonds672 4 жыл бұрын
big thumbs up Alex to you and your son Gabriel, awesome presentation , i am very impressed how good your set up works with a simple vacuum, greetings from the lone star state! subscribed!
@PPMOCRG
@PPMOCRG 4 жыл бұрын
I have my Dust Deputy mounted to a 33 gal. can also. It works great.
@MyUnquenchableThirst
@MyUnquenchableThirst 4 жыл бұрын
my dust deputy came with a foam ring to put between the deputy and the lid I have it on, like a gasket. This system seems to be working great but it might be worth looking into sealing that and creating soe kind of gasket for the trash lid as well. Well done, great video. my only critique is that it was a little long. anyway I subscribed because you give a very relatable perspective
@pradeepnalaka3803
@pradeepnalaka3803 4 жыл бұрын
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@MyUnquenchableThirst
@MyUnquenchableThirst 4 жыл бұрын
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@massholemitch6699
@massholemitch6699 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, I have a lot smaller of space (jealous of the room you have) but I am looking to do the exact same set up you have!! Great video, very in depth and helpful 👍🏼👍🏼
@peterfabricius662
@peterfabricius662 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, I know you made this about two years ago, but I just want to add that your system must have MEGA leaks, because that shop vac should have sucked the plastic bag right out of your hand. Without lots of CFM you will not be able to clear the chips from the Planer, Etc. Etc. Put a rubber gasket between the Deputy and the can lid. Check every blast gate for leaking, find a way to seal everything up. Always have one gate open when you start the Vac... I do not want to be critical but I made my own deputy and use the House Central Vac to power it. No problem using the planer!!!
@nigelskinner2733
@nigelskinner2733 5 жыл бұрын
Great video - looks like an excellent system. My only concern is that you don't have any access to the main pipes in case of blockages - which will occur at some stage! I would have built in access ports on some of the bends (normally blocked off, of course) to enable rod access for poking out any blockages...
@timzak1
@timzak1 5 жыл бұрын
Nigel Skinner I always just used a flexible plumbing rod through the blast gates in my system.
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 3 жыл бұрын
He has a cleanout at the very beginning by the dust deputy. But I've never had a clog that didn't break loose by hitting a little compressed air going the opposite direction at a air hose quick disconnect I installed....no rods needed.
@docjohnson3980
@docjohnson3980 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video. You're differently getting thumbs up. 👍 Good job little for helping your old man.
@1QKGLH
@1QKGLH Жыл бұрын
Nice video. A few thoughts. I think people use 5 gallon buckets under a dust deputy or similar because a 32 gallon can full of sawdust is HEAVY. Also, a 5 gallon bucket can be stacked on top of the vacuum to free up floor and wall space.
@muchograssyass1
@muchograssyass1 4 жыл бұрын
I have built one of these using a Ridgid shop vac, a 15 gal. used oil drum and a dust deputy. Use it on a daily basis and it works quite well. Only problem I have is with my older Craftsman bet drive table saw it doesn't work the best.
@JNRII
@JNRII 3 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation and layout. I had concerns about how I was going to setup due to the length of pipe. Now, not concerned.
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 5 жыл бұрын
God I wish I had that kind of space!
@AlexQuiroz
@AlexQuiroz 5 жыл бұрын
Brads Workbench! Hope all is well!! You know it took a while to make the decision final and say let’s just go all in! I truly appreciate the space and you know how all us wood workers are... we need more space!!!
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll have my space one day. For now I’ve crammed a full shop into an 8x12 area. I’m gonna do a shop tour soon
@tonybp965
@tonybp965 5 жыл бұрын
You and me both
@shanemelville
@shanemelville 5 жыл бұрын
Thank Alex I to have a shop vac system that I have 2" pvc pipe that is run through my shop. Mine isn't as long as yours but I was wondering if the 2" was going to be good enough now thanks to your video I know it will be
@MadebyArt_Ehv
@MadebyArt_Ehv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally show that it really can work. Now I know I won't pay lots for nothing
@MadebyArt_Ehv
@MadebyArt_Ehv 4 жыл бұрын
However I think I'm gonna put my shopvac in the middle of the pipeline. So I'm able to 'double' the length of the pipeline
@dirkbaumann9398
@dirkbaumann9398 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a video with a shop vac dust collection system. Thank You. Could you tell us if you have steps to address the grounding against static ? Best Regards, Dirk
@akaredcrossbow
@akaredcrossbow 4 жыл бұрын
What I do is I spray/use Static Guard for clothes in my system here and there. I spray it in all my ports and it works good. It smells for a short time after you spray, but it goes away.
@lsantilli
@lsantilli 4 жыл бұрын
Great example and setup, puts my mind at ease picking one up for myself. Thanks!
@mezrebeloutdoors3879
@mezrebeloutdoors3879 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Glad the proof is out there that this can be done. Thanks!
@richardmccutcheon7640
@richardmccutcheon7640 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just subscribed. Any chance of a video of you coming up with a way to collect dust from a table saw? Not sure the best route to seal up the back to keep the dust flying out the back
@Billlupton
@Billlupton 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, and thankfully no bloody musak, just good instruction very impressed with the HP of that craftman Vac (what power is it ), well mad video
@Andy-df5fj
@Andy-df5fj 4 жыл бұрын
Of course there will be dead ended suction even at the end of the line even if was a mile long (without leaks). Resistance impedes airflow, not dead end pressure. The question is if there is enough air flow at the end of the line to effectively draw in debris from more then just the very opening of the intake. I would have liked to see how it performs on a tool connected at the end of the line. Once you build up the collection system on that table saw, that will be a good test on whether you have enough power.
@chiefurag4183
@chiefurag4183 4 жыл бұрын
Im geussing no. The plastic bag test was weak. The seal on the trash can appeared to be standard. Prolly leaks. The pvc line just looks way too long. I feel like a rolling portable system would work better here. Less maintenance. Less clogs. Less hose. Less leaks. I feel like the average homeowner is in over his head on these big collection systems. Trying to replicate what those big 4 in hose systems can do. This guy seems happy. I guess thats all that matters.
@robertalbro1255
@robertalbro1255 4 жыл бұрын
I have a similar set up with far less overall footage, maybe 20 ft with 6 blast gates and over time I have burned out 3 vacs, one old one and 2 new ones, 6.5 Horse Power and with a Dust Deputy.
@cam7724
@cam7724 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done sir. have not seen anymore vids from your channel yet. for noise if ya have not yet done so maybe an enclosure to make it a bit more quiet. But I like the set up gives me some ideas. Thanks for sharing much appreciated.
@barbarianatgate2000
@barbarianatgate2000 4 жыл бұрын
In general, I really like this system, and I'm always impressed with the ingenuity shown when people use what they already have to solve their situations. That said, I have my concerns about the actual draw. My shop vac will basically suck the butt out of a cat. I think we've all inadvertently vacuumed something up that we didn't intend to. If my vac gets too close to a plastic bag like that, it's gone. Either that or, if the filter hasn't been changed in a while, I've got to fight to get it back. So, seeing the light draw on the bag even at the closest port, I have to question how much it's actually taking care of? Or is it possible that the filter was gummed up and not creating the usual air flow? The other thing to consider with the PVC run is the static. A simple ground wire attached to some screws that just penetrate the pipe will solve that. But all in all, a very cool system.
@joeynuggetz
@joeynuggetz 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, cool setup but the draw on the bag was so weak. So to me the answer to this video is NO. I expect my shop vacs to suck the drapes right off the wall.
@ashman4809
@ashman4809 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this looks ok for your kid to use, but what happens when you use the router, or a Thicknesser/planer etc? There's a lot more stuff flying around. I need it to suck more than a staving $2 hooker.
@nickbailey202
@nickbailey202 5 жыл бұрын
Such an easy walkthrough. You answered a couple key questions for me. Thank you.
@markkulyas2418
@markkulyas2418 4 жыл бұрын
For future reference, if you go to the electrical aisle they sell PVC 90 deg. sweeps in grey pipe.
@Stabby__
@Stabby__ 3 жыл бұрын
The entry level 4in dust collection systems they have now are priced pretty well and there is no comparison they win hands down in a multi machine system. Nothing wrong with using a shop vac directly connected to a single machine works ok.
@smattext
@smattext 5 жыл бұрын
im envious of your shop very nice ! your son is a sweetheart ! i didnt buy the dust deputy but i did buy the dust stopper from home depot hopefully it will work just as good, lots of ideas now thanks to your video thanks much!!
@johnkristoff2341
@johnkristoff2341 4 жыл бұрын
Alex: you have solved my very lame draw with dust collection, Many thanks. My assumption regarding "shop vac' size is that larger HP would draw even better. I believe you mentioned size at the beginning of the video. [Just checked-right on.] I'm purchasing the Dust Deputy today and hook it up per your instructions. Well done. Great video, and to quote another commenr, "Who needs music?" is appropriate. Thanks, again. John.
@raywagner970
@raywagner970 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I have been researching dust collection for my small work area.
@ScreamingEagleFTW
@ScreamingEagleFTW 2 жыл бұрын
should take one of those air flow meters at each port and see if they are all the same.
@hitoshidoth3503
@hitoshidoth3503 5 жыл бұрын
Dude your shop is cleaner than most hospital emergency rooms. Please make it a bit more dirty and dusty so that I can subscribe. Thanks.
@dougwilke9253
@dougwilke9253 5 жыл бұрын
I am a believer- I am going to start working on mine now!! Thank you
@chipshot442
@chipshot442 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Alex, I am in the process of setting up the same type of system. I never knew that 2" pipe would be so efficient. The planer chunks may be an issue but like you said you can take the pipes apart if it gets clogged. Take care and waiting for the next one. Al from Maryland
@AlexQuiroz
@AlexQuiroz 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Al! Thanks so much for watching! I’m glad that you enjoyed it! The 2” pipe definitely works well and for the reason of potential clogging, I did not permanently hook the fittings together. Another reason to why my planer is so close to the first portion of the run. I won’t have to undo all the piping if that happens, it will only be a few fittings. Thanks again sir!!
@daviddavis5689
@daviddavis5689 5 жыл бұрын
They work best with smaller shop vac for portable collector with less piping and hose. For planer get a vac assisted type and no need for anything but a filter vented sealed bucket which can be under table. I use 5 gallon with garage bags for easy disposal.
@johncgonzales4338
@johncgonzales4338 4 жыл бұрын
Look on Craigslist and you can get a larger dust system for less than $200. Also I was told by firemen to ground your plastic pipe by running.copper wire with it.
@jamesmorrissey5604
@jamesmorrissey5604 3 жыл бұрын
www.rockler.com/exploding-pvc-dust-collection-ductwork www.woodcentral.com/articles/shop/articles_221.shtml
@carguy1312
@carguy1312 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Little guy is a ham. Doing great Dad!
@ThinkB4UAct
@ThinkB4UAct 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , just trying to learn all I can on how to best approach a set up and I like yours
@dewaynefederico7710
@dewaynefederico7710 4 жыл бұрын
Great hook up system Alex. wish I could have peeked inside the shop vac 2 c what residue reached it, also HOW u hooked up the Dust Deputy 2 the trash can but I presume that was immaterial. Props 4 involving ur son in ur video. Great Job. I am going 2 try ur set up.
@ThinkB4UAct
@ThinkB4UAct 5 жыл бұрын
Love your set up , would love to see a step by step of another room set up.
@AlexQuiroz
@AlexQuiroz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wyatt Holiday! Thanks for taking the time and commenting!
@jayraysdiy852
@jayraysdiy852 Жыл бұрын
Seems like either the system is not sealed well, or you kept a blast gate open somewhere. The best performance that you can get with any dust collection system will be with only one blast gate open at a time and a very well sealed system.
@joseontiveros624
@joseontiveros624 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I think your system would work better if you would have planned the vacuum in the middle of the 50ft. Then valves to both sides. When using equipment to eather side just close the opposite valve. Versus the last piece of equipment having the least suction. But easy mod. Great video.
@lylehann674
@lylehann674 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone suggested grounding your suction pipe and outlets to reduce static and fires? Also you definitely need a key fab remote for your vac. Great job
@TheJedc43
@TheJedc43 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and good job, But I believe in buying a individual shop vac for each machine...
@reploidv
@reploidv 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about any of this stuff nor am I interested in it in any way. But, you are my cousin and I can't take anything you're doing seriously so this is funny to me haha. On a serious note these videos are legit and I'm impressed man. Keep it up.
@kennethbland4086
@kennethbland4086 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic setup and demonstration. Thank you for sharing it, subscribed.
@irishdave51
@irishdave51 4 жыл бұрын
How is it on Static? I am a retired Shop teacher and in my school shop I had to ground the pipes (ducts) I ran a bare wire along the ducts and attached it to each section of duct. I connected it to the grounded frame of my dust collector
@jasoncopeland8382
@jasoncopeland8382 3 жыл бұрын
Does it work yes, does it work as well as dust collector no. It is cheaper, agreed. But if you look a “shop vac” cannot filter down far enough in the microns scale to compare. It will collect the dust but it will not filter the dust enough. One mistake I made was trying to do the same thing but honestly I wish I never did. You can get by with this but your air quality will not be the same as using a dust collection system. Save the money and do it right the first time.
@RADCOMJ1
@RADCOMJ1 5 жыл бұрын
Good video and thanks for the info. You have a really nice workspace...props
@AlexQuiroz
@AlexQuiroz 5 жыл бұрын
Hey RADCOMJ1! Truly appreciate the comment!! Stick around because we are just getting started!!
@singlefather01
@singlefather01 4 жыл бұрын
I had a shop vac hooked up to the exact planer he has. Guess what, by the second lumber I was planing, I realized it was a huge mistake. I think the shop vac was spewing out the dust from the exhaust. What happened to the filter? It was gummed up by the 5 inches of wood chips on top. That darn planer was pushing the chips so fast, it was not even funny. Well, it was funny. I was a neophyte into the world of wood working, so I should be excused. I quickly set up a bigger dust collector system. I picked up a 1300 CFM dust collector from Harbor Freight on sale and 4 inch Oneida Dust Deputy. By the way, Harbor Freight rocks.
@borealpatriot1502
@borealpatriot1502 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you got so upstaged! I can hardly wait 'til Gabriel starts his own channel and becomes a KZbin celebrity. Question: Did you take any measures to "gasket" the garbage can and lid?
@Feverdemon23
@Feverdemon23 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I do have my own channel it’s called: Gabriel’s fun. And with me dabbing with a red hat.
@buynsell365
@buynsell365 4 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! When I get a chance I will try to set this up for my shop. Looking forward to seeing the wireless or remote option you come up with. Thanks
@WesHamstra
@WesHamstra 4 жыл бұрын
nice set up. really nice shop. its really clean! almost looks like you never use your tools.
@RedRoyce
@RedRoyce 5 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! Good to know because I was wondering if i did my setup that will be kind of like yours will my shop vac work. I have a little bigger shop vac so it should be all good. Thank you and nice shop!!!
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