WILL IT CHUG? - VOX AC15

A CLASSIC! WILL IT CHUG? Lets find out!
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[@OlaEnglund]

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[@corysundell2742]

I can’t wait to put it on the TT and crank it on the Kenwood KA-9100!!!

[@icedragoni1918]

Hey Ola ! Your music is great \m/

[@bishfish1514]

i love the album good work

[@CrushingAxes]

Waiting for the torrent 😂. Just kidding, it's great !

[@harshtruth9148]

Ola just received my solar 1.6 blb evertune!! Such a beautiful guitar. PERFECT QC!!! The evertune is awesome and very easy to use!! Awesome guitar man. I’m ecstatic!! The solar Duncan’s are amazing!!

[@triledink]

Ah yes, The Beatles are know to host the very first slam metal concert with those AC15's.

[@zeroman614]

They did it all for the nookie.

[@Teepee514]

I can’t imagine what metal music would sound like back then. What would it sound like? 🤔

[@_-_Michael_-_]

@@Teepee514 listen to Strol On by Yardbirds, kinda proto metal with Vox AC50 amps. 1966

[@fireglo450music]

@@Teepee514 as Michael said, The Yardbirds circa '66 did some chugging metal. Also try The Who or The Creation

[@Bobbley82]

@@Teepee514 clink clink *glass breaking* You can smell the burning tubes

[@immanuelrohy]

I wanted him to plug in a boost. Then he one-ups me, and plugs in a metalzone. Madman.

[@briangreene851]

Haha I was saying from the very beginning, overdrive it man plug in a TS or whatever. He has a shelf overflowing with od pedals but no! Metal Zone 🤘

[@visualdarkness]

MetalZone is a nice boost!

[@Dram1984]

I think a clean boost would send this into the zone.

[@OldManBadly]

Metalzone could make your smart watch chug.

[@crookedclassic]

WAIT... are you telling me the metalzone isn't a clean boost?

[@jakevirata]

"When in doubt, Metal zone" -Ola Englund 2021

[@theedgeinshow]

This should be on a t-shirt

[@Mephilis78]

Something literally only he would say.

[@ronggodinoyo]

and Ola happy

[@t.kahraba763]

I use my metal zone waza on my ac10 and I don't know whether to feel proud or ashamed

[@cliftongardner4367]

“When in doubt, Metal Zone. Remember that.” - Ola England, 2021

[@Marta1Buck]

Ola Finnish

[@jolinsonrichi4465]

@@Marta1Buck 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 one of the epic comments of all time

[@Roxanneredpanda]

I just fucking might

[@patrickbautista5107]

Need to be on a t-shirt honestly

[@visualdarkness]

I think that "chug" with the amp alone sounded really cool. Not modern but a nice flavor.

[@theartofshwa]

"Vintage" chug

[@derek_d]

Agreed. Kinda want an AC15 now 🤣

[@Olegstuff21986]

@@theartofshwa vintage chug kicks ass, love that oldschool metal sound - e.g. Priest, Sabbath, Maiden, Saxon. It sounds so much more natural than all that modern digital crap.

[@ozmassb2594]

it did not chug, it jangled

[@nicolauferreira3448]

This amp sounds good for heavy, speed and thrash metal but apparently not for extreme metal

[@MultiGolonka]

Ola: "ok, show me your chugs" Amp: "..." Ola: *pulls out Metalzone* - "I wasn't asking"

[@SixStringViolence]

Next - Fender Twin Reverb! Will it chug - NO! With Metalzone - YES! Saved you some wasted time Ola, you're welcome!

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Meh, no Metalzone needed.. She'll chug, just crank it up to 10, if you dare! Don't forget your earplugs. 😉 Plenty of cats out there rockin' 6L6 based amps.

[@j_c_93]

@@R3TR0R4V3 I have a Tonemaster Fender Twin Reverb which luckily comes with an attenuator. A Twin Reverb with all knobs on 10 sounds awesome

[@kimbarsegyan]

Pretty much anything will chug with Metalzone, no?

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Pretty much, yeah.. I'd hope so anyway. 😅

[@_-_Michael_-_]

Twin Reverb on 10... thats how that dude from Sound of Metal got deaf, probably...

[@mikepodesta4393]

The clean version of will it chug would be: WILL IT CHIME? idea for you Ola, you’re welcome

[@DSchea]

Nobody watches his vids for clean tones lol

[@EasyHeat]

Brilliant.

[@joshuagavaghan224]

@@DSchea you’re acting like we wouldn’t watch a video with Ola regardless. We only don’t do that because he doesn’t do that. If he chimes, we listen.

[@BaneForYou]

A fellow based chime enjoyer. I really think it hurts some people’s ears

[@mikepodesta4393]

@@DSchea Yeah, metal albums don´t use clean sounds... right.

[@arjay9998]

My favourite Brutal Death Metal Band, Queen!

[@mke7605]

I was thinking U2 🤣

[@ajcjcarvalho]

@@mke7605 Why not Backstreet Boys?

[@ryanmounce2850]

@@ajcjcarvalho It was a joke because both U2 and Queen used Vox amps, making the statement at least relevant to the video. Rather than a weird joke thrown into a random comment section for no rhyme or reason. Lol

[@geocmartin6593]

@@ajcjcarvalho What's the connection between Backstreet boys and Vox amps, or with guitars, or even amps for that matter?

[@syamakhalder4646]

@@geocmartin6593 or good taste in music . no connection whatseover

[@TheDankCat127]

Protip: Plug into the top boost channel, turn bass and treble all the way down, then dime the channel volume. Adjust the master volume to desired loudness and add a touch of bass back in to give it some body. Adjust the tone cut knob to taste. It’s not a “chug,” but it’s the best crunch sound I’ve heard out of the Vox without using pedals.

[@martincaz7772]

Nice.

[@christianrodriguez6640]

Dude! I have an AC15 and just tried your technique, and holy crap, it sounds amazing without a pedal. Thanks for the pro tip man!

[@zenistermister9695]

I actually didn't hate the Metalzone with the vox sound... Lol.

[@somegingerdude8110]

Distortion pedals generally sound better going through clean British-voiced amplifiers IMO

[@Sgt6217]

Add an MXR ten band eq before the MetalZone. You're welcome 😁

[@adeptusmechanicus1029]

@@Sgt6217 mxr ten band does wonders. I have mine in my fx loop of my 6505mh

[@EchtellionN]

its the waza craft though, they're better than the OGs

[@Battlenude]

@@somegingerdude8110 think Brian May might have something to say about that claim🙈🙉🙊

[@dumbstupid5065]

Chug or not, that amp sounds pretty fucking great on a lot of different settings.

[@MrBogut23]

Ahhhh he’s killing me- please crank up the master volume omggg

[@MrBogut23]

Noooooooo he turned up the master but turned down the normal volume

[@ZetaFuzzMachine]

he was TOO AFRAID to crank up both at the same time! Shame...

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Exactly. It would've chugged without the Metalzone, if he had the gonads to crank both up to 10. C'mon Ola, wth! 🤦🏻‍♂️😛

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Well, it's either those or vaginas.. Don't go all 'gender neutral' on me now, bud! 😬

[@cameronfoale8270]

@@R3TR0R4V3 Gonads is absolutely gender neutral. Men and women both have gonads.

[@jeremyrafuse5330]

"Vintage chug." - Ola Englund, 2021

[@shawnmace6605]

Now throw in a throw in a treble booster and” BAM “ instant Queen like chugs!!!

[@tobiash04]

but queen doesn't chug

[@martinvetter2746]

Oh yea queen my favorite thrash band

[@DJKr15py]

@@martinvetter2746 have you listened to stone cold crazy?

[@jadeone]

@@tobiash04 there’s quite a few chuggy queen songs, they’re definitely genre-bending

[@rodneyauerbach1245]

@@fredriksvard2603 u play guitar ? Stone cold crazy has alot of of chugging in it at least with you're wrist going up and down on the power cords palmutting. Is that not a chug? You don't know what you're talking about

[@JosephBliss]

That pushed clean/slightly distorted tone was fantastic. Sounds surprisingly good with the Metal Zone too lmao.

[@dehasim]

Reminded of some of Evergreys tone :v

[@Olegstuff21986]

It's an AC15, those amps are some of the best tube amps there is.

[@m2alvaro]

"That's not metal, but it's nice"

[@BiblePit]

The AC15 takes high gain pedals exceptionally well. i regret selling mine. I have never been able to achieve the same tone out of any other amp with the same high gain pedals. The clean tone with a chorus is one of the best out there.

[@BrandonEht]

Yeah that sounded really good with the MZ. That pedal can sound really thin and fizzy with some amps, but through the AC15 it sounds thicc

[@karmatologist]

Did you put it through the normal or top boost? I’m looking to get a more modern high gain tone out of my ac15.

[@alexoliveira1346]

Once was a girl, that brought her vox ac30 for the bands rehearsal. I gotta say I was inloved with the tone. That amplifier, for me, has as the best clean/crunchy of all the amps I ever heard.

[@mikethegreat4296]

It's my pedal platform for this reason. It has an effects loop, attenuator, and there are tricks you can do to get more control over the EQ, too! Ola's trying to expose my secret tech.

[@maximaus988]

I have a VOX AC30 valvetronix and its so insanely versatile that I am glad I saved it from marketplace destitution.

[@VexLosers]

You have no idea how much I appreciate this video, Ola. My punk / metal band has a few South by Southwest gigs coming up in which the Vox AC15 is my only backline option, and I thought I was totally screwed until I found this video! Many thanks for what you do - pretty much every other video just focuses on the clean / light breakup approach, but this is only one I’ve seen from a distinctively metal viewpoint. Cheers!

[@matt926uk1]

maybe your band is on the wrong gig if thats the case lol!

[@asherasator]

Vox is great sounding amp. It's good to play with less distortion, improves technique.

[@Mikesosa75]

Love when you specify the sounds of every mic it´s very helpfull

[@parlamedia]

This is exactly what I have been waiting from this channel!

[@fredrikberg5224]

Vox ac-15 and a metal zone was actually my set up for several years :P

[@dmitryowens]

I gigged with a Laney LC50-II for like 8 years. My bands played what I labeled as "punk-funk-metal", and I used to run the Laney clean for our funky songs/parts, and then use a Metal Zone for the punk and metal stuff - sounded killer. So yeah, I agree with Ola - a Metal Zone will make any amp chug if you set the amp for a clean tone and then use the pedal as the high gain channel.

[@VesselForHonor]

Man this absolutely blew my mind, that sound with the metal zone was just freaking awesome

[@josephgaude]

The bottom-end on that AC15 in clean/slightly dirty was amazing!!!!

[@GC-bk1mv]

you were SO CLOSE to getting some really amazing vox saturation on the top boost channel. The ONLY thing you didn't do was crank up the Master Volume with the top boost volume cranked as well. You'll be amazed at how distorted that amp will get. Rock on.

[@Bobbley82]

In my head: "Just put distortion in front of it" Ola: *I got you, bro.*

[@tite93]

This would've been a great time to crank out some high-gain overdrive or boost pedal! VOX tube amps take pedals very well, you can actually get them to chug fairly well

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

HM-2 in front of a VOX AC30 for my Swedish Death Psychedelia band. From chime to chainsaw at the push of a footswitch.

[@JSGuitar80]

I use my AC30 for literally all genres. I'm the kind of guy who loves both funk and metal equally. The main this is: does your amp have beautiful cleans? This amp takes pedals like a dream. One thing I'd say is: I wish I'd gotten the 15. The 30 is about 10,000 pounds.

[@nickhartman6372]

I'm sure your neighbors absolutely love you 😅 that thing is LOUD. Even my AC10 seems pretty loud, I can't even imagine what an AC30 would be like. Absolutely love Vox amps though, I don't know if I'll ever buy anything different!

[@minjiigo]

That goes to show that the one can be happy playing Queen AND Entombed with a Vox and a metal zone 🤘

[@chuwy2k]

Will it Blues? Yes, it will! Great sound in a Metal Solar Guitar, awesome! 🤘🏼😎

[@deanathan]

10/10 did not expect the metalzone to make a vox sound like that. I’m pleasantly surprised 🤘🏽😂

[@guitaronabudget]

Why has this guy not got 1 million subscribers yet. Ola deserves it. Let's get him to 1 million 👍😊🤘

[@f.c.9550]

By next years first quarter he will be 1 million, these things take time :)

[@athmaid]

@@declassified1 what jokes? Only recurring joke I can think of is his sound board

[@The_Real_Daniel]

MINIMUM

[@declassified1]

@@athmaid yeah ,my bad Deleted.

[@Twobarpsi]

I'm subbed.

[@chrisguitar8234]

If Ola uploads its a good day

[@heitorkajioka]

You should try to make a roland jazz chorus chug. On its own it’ll be impossible, but adding some pedals might work.

[@Payduro]

Holy fuck. Thats probably the best clean tones ive ever heard. Beautiful!!! I should pay more attention to Vox amps

[@justaguy2365]

They're great.. and versatile. So is the Fender twin. From what I hear, the newer AC30s aren't as good as the ones made in the UK.

[@nicholaschavira1743]

ac-30 with a tube upgrade will blow your mind. not only does it do the cleans super well (i love my greco les paul through it) but it will also bite sooooooo hard when pushed. great for classic british metal, and doesnt sound too bad for some thrash stuff too!

[@insulartomb]

Saw the title of this video and, as I do every time, I thought "He's such a dickhead. I love him." And this couldn't be a more classic example of why. Did you do any prep at all? No. Did you manage to get the darkest clean tone I've ever heard from a Top Boost Vox? Yes. Did you crank the master for old-school power tube distortion? Absolutely not. Did you plug in a boost? No. One better. A Metalzone. 10/10 would watch again. Never change, dude.

[@insulartomb]

@@iLikeD1rt well yes but it's the chuggiest this amp is capable of on its own isn't it

[@clemhepburn5577]

@@insulartomb It can get more if you crank the master, that power amp needs to sing

[@ToLiveistoDie]

"Vintage chug." Legendary.

[@TheOneTrueSpLiT]

The best tone I ever had was with an all solid-state VOX amp from the 1960s along with the original Boss ME-5 and my Yamaha RGX or Jackson Randy Rhoads custom shop special - that combination sounded way better than the JCM 900 I also had at the time. Man I wish I still had all that gear.

[@stanislavmigra]

I think you made pretty cool sounds there and with metal zone it sounded really cool.

[@user-wv5gv3dw5u]

Thrice have proved to me that AC30's can be heavy as Fuck

[@chuckdriver8269]

I get a kick out of how many people don’t know about how great the Vox AC-15 is!🇺🇸🎸

[@chuckdriver8269]

@@MaksHedlund - never said they were. The American Flag is my country of origin, not my amp.🇺🇸

[@Gizmo-st1ky]

The gods see it fit to bless us with chugs!! Great video! I’ve always wanted to see if this amp would chug.

[@chusamusic1409]

First time I've ever seen Ola make "guitarist face" .. hells yeah🤘🤘

[@blackdragon6473]

7:37 damn that's a good riff

[@cesarvelasquez3186]

The haunted - Trespass

[@blackdragon6473]

@@cesarvelasquez3186 thank you!

[@Hurfdurflol]

@@cesarvelasquez3186 thanks both of you

[@roku_nine]

'Avenged Sevenfold - Unholy Confessions' also similar riff imo

[@alexis_toriz]

7:39 that sounds beautiful!

[@haveguitarwilltravel6105]

Hell yeah I've been waiting for a VOX to show up on will it chug was not disappointed

[@rockinroller25]

It’s pleasing to see Ola use the AC15, I’ve always seen it as the stoner/doom guitar players use it a lot or anyone who just likes using s lot of pedals.

[@BoyAditya]

Ola attempt to chug on VOX ACs.. Brian May: 😲😶

[@alicevitoriano]

stone cold crazy chugs....

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

I'm amazed you didn't try it with an overdrive, or better yet, a treblebooster. But you're right, everything will chug with a Metal Zone.

[@dmitryowens]

I can attest to that - I've been using one since 1994.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@dmitryowens I hope you modded it then. Stock it sounds pretty, shall we say, hard to get a good tone out of it? But they make great modding platforms that can sound really great.

[@dmitryowens]

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 I'm not an electronic engineer, dude - lol And I could get good tones out of it - apparently some people just don't know how to adjust the EQ. I do want to get a Waza Metal Zone, however - I hear they sound killer.

[@Quarmac]

Two things to know about Vox style amps. 1. The EQ controls are interactive. Roll off the treble and bass below 12:00 and you get more mids than just a top and bass cut. 2. Power tube distortion needs master volume full up. A lot of the magic of the vox sound is in the power section disorting rather than the preamp.

[@NoCantsAllowed]

VERY happy to see Metal Zone that I grew-up with getting a little love, instead of the HM-2, for a change! On revisiting, mine was a helluva lot brighter than I remembered... but still pretty killer to a 13-year old in the 90's!

[@asepgobank977]

I love "Will it Chug" videos.. I liked the video before watching LOL

[@hondas562]

“That’s not metal, but it’s nice” not the compliment I’d want for my product line.

[@alexskibicki2262]

Cool demo, ola. I would say on it's own, it definitely suitable for hard rock or blues. adding distortion definitely makes it sound heavier. plus it sounds great with the metalzone.

[@HughG_Rection416]

I luckily got to grow up learning guitar playing threw my step fathers vintage 1967 Vox Super Beatle amp. The Amp was an absolute beast.

[@TalicZealot]

I've never heard a Vox sound this good.

[@oliverchristopher8941]

Because no one just cranks them

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

They do sound good.

[@SephDineros]

Ola Englund The Blueserer 🤘

[@blakesadler]

Blueserker

[@thewaywelive2775]

This segment is one of my favorite things on the internet right now

[@RTVLD]

So cool to see the Vox not chugging, but then taking the pedal like a champ :)

[@andreadiatene]

Perhaps there should be a vintage-chug category! And I am all for odd pairs like AC15 and a MetalZone!

[@mabecka]

I really like the Metal Zone. It's a great pedal with infinite EQ.posibillities!

[@beanapalooza6614]

OLA, DUDE you had a nice " MAD SEASONS" TONE GOING!!! That was SOOOOOO AWESOME, made me think of Lyane Staley, I'ma gonna go listen to some now,, CHUG ON MY SWED BRO!!

[@robinho1978.]

I don’t play metal at all and my main house amp is a vox ac 4 and it’s an insanely good pedal platform! Good work man, you got some decent tones out of it for ‘not knowing what you were doing’

[@zwidawurzn9423]

Some Vox amps really have a lot of punch but they need some support from a distortion pedal to get enough gain

[@danilofreitas1104]

Adoro seus vídeos sou do brasil e não falo inglês, é triste mas eu vejo mesmo assim só pra assimilar os timbres muito foda

[@pip5528]

I bet this would sound amazing with a clean boost in front of it. I of course do love it for its classic rock applications and whatnot but it could sound cool for metal with a boost.

[@nailbombroach]

This was the only question I've ever had about anything Vox. Thank you.

[@kristophergamble8510]

Yooooo crank both volumes and boost with the duality DX!

[@horriblepizza4647]

I feel like it woukd work in a full band as long as you have a thick bass tone to fill it out, kind of in the direction of Kings X or Dorje.

[@lecorsaire2283]

I love the AC-30 Top Boosts. I regret not buying an English one when I had the chance a little over 20 years ago.

[@Osselminator]

Naaais! Thanks for hearing me! I asked for this in June 2020. I didn't manage making it chug it either. Now I have proof that it is not possisble without padel. Again, thanks a lot! :D

[@Mephilis78]

"It's distorting somehow" It's a 15 watt tube amp, dude.

[@dbombaable]

I've been waiting for a Will it Chug with a Vox! The Beatles made the Vox famous first and they weren't chuggers.

[@bpabustan]

The Shadows made the AC30 popular a year or two before the Beatles.

[@connordrysdale5333]

@@bpabustan Never even heard of them lol

[@bpabustan]

@@connordrysdale5333 then it"s about time you should.

[@lespauldisciple3349]

'Helter Skelter' sorta chugged but by then the Beatles were using Fender Bassman amps.

[@lespauldisciple3349]

Soy: By 1968 the Beatles had moved past the Vox amps. (Their "exclusive" deal/contract with Vox was for live shows. Those ceased in 1966.) They may have used one here or there but most photos of them in the studio from that era showed them using Fender amps.

[@Winterdarth]

My first guitar gear was the same looking amp (only in 10W format) with the Metal Zone like 20 years ago. :-D This video brings up some nice memories, thx Ola :-)

[@Eggy-bp6pj]

I had the pleasure of hearing a special edition vox ac30 with the limited edition speakers, made to the same spec as the original speakers from back when it was first made. It was cranked to the max, deafeningly loud (thankfully it was being recorded in another room) and pushed by a simple American telecaster. And it was the best classic rock sound I have ever heard. It screamed with such character, it sounded like the amp was alive and singing with human emotion. If you ever get the chance, I urge everyone to try it. It will make you want to cry.

[@MeTuLHeD]

"Everything will chug with a Metal Zone in front of it." *proceeds to plug pedal into a toaster*

[@1verzhn]

That is the perfect marriage of a metalzone. Wow

[@Thurston86]

It Chuggered with the help of a Metal Zones! That is sooooo Metals!!! 🤘👽

[@0Nafod0]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎸 *The "Will It Chug" series tests gear to see if it can produce a heavy, distorted guitar sound known as a "chug."* 00:26 🎛️ *The Vox AC15, historically used for different music genres, was tested for its chugging capability despite not being designed for heavy distortion.* 01:07 🎤 *Equipment used: Sb-1.6 guitar, SM57 and Austrian Audio OC-18 microphones for testing the Vox AC15's sound.* 03:25 🎚️ *Despite lacking heavy gain, the Vox AC15 produced a vintage-like chug, showcasing its unique tone rather than typical heavy distortion.* 06:40 🎶 *Using a metal pedal, the amp successfully produced chugging sounds, demonstrating adaptability with external effects for heavy distortion.* 08:16 🤔 *The Vox AC15 excels in clean tones, making it more suitable for clean guitar styles rather than heavy metal, despite being capable with the right pedal.* Made with HARPA AI

[@AdrianNWB]

Just goes to show that a Metal Zone will sound great if you use it with a tube amp that has a great clean tone.

[@joerondorf926]

Beautiful sounding amp. Not everything needs to chug

[@justinvzu01]

I love these for clean tones. I use it for my Kemper presets during clean parts in metal songs.

[@BaneForYou]

The dials from the top boost actually has a subtle yet very noticeable effect on the width and shape of the normal channel. If you want more grind while in normal mode, max the top boost volume and treble and bass a bit past noon.

[@endezeichengrimm]

4:42 Some Alice in Chains, Nutshell vibes. P.S; The Metal Zone is an essential pedal for any Metal guitarist.

[@dylanporter8105]

Little know fact Tony iommi used an ac30 on a load of black sabbath songs

[@Azianshredder91]

Didn’t think I’d see my amp on this channel. Pretty cool to see the cleaner side of your playing.

[@aaax9410]

Love the colour on that guitar

[@FRANANGELICOONA]

I was hoping to hear it with a clean boost in front.

[@ZetaFuzzMachine]

The MEANEST tone I ever achieved was slapping a fuzz factory in front of my VOX AC15. Guess Ola was not ready for it. If you guys want a taste, let me know and I'll record some old school chug with it

[@filipeventura2729]

bringt it on

[@TealScarab]

Do it man!!

[@g.koch.]

*DEW IT*

[@TheSPY1997]

Show us the tone

[@UziNecromancer]

Yes! Show us the tone!

[@robrtsparkman9362]

The tone cut control is everything on these amps. And it works a counterintuitive backwards. Basically a tone control in the power section, brightest at zero setting.

[@homunculusSZN]

One thing I love is that The Edge makes those Vox amps sound so sweet. Listen to Bullet The Blue Sky by U2. The bomb drops he does are so killer

[@stayKraken1]

Wondering what an eyemaster or any other hm2 would do to it. This channel needs more chainsaw.

[@Taustavoima]

A new series: will everything chug with a metalzone 🤣

[@cavanray5327]

Metalzone into the front of a marshal MS2.

[@joseartur3215]

loved this tone

[@albertplaysguitar]

In the pocket with those riffs! Must be some Vox inspiration.