Will Netflix Help or Hurt Natalie Portman's "Annihilation"? - SJU

[@sebastianvasquezcipriani4866]

I was so mad when I found out that I wasn't going to get to see Annihilation.

[@megamoviez]

Sebastián Vásquez Cipriani Why not?

[@sebastianvasquezcipriani4866]

Mega MovieZ I live in Perú, apparently I'm gonna get to watch it on Netflix, but I was REALLY looking forward to watching it on the big screen.

[@moshacre]

I'm from Mexico, Ex Machina wasn't released here as well :( It's so sad

[@danielachacon6621]

Same here :( I’m from Chile

[@nikhilmamnani4361]

I too have felt your pain brother

[@KingOfMadCows]

The problem is that studios don't know how to use test audiences. Test audiences can give great feedback if they're selected correctly and asked the right questions. Test audiences have helped directors make great changes. The ending of Terminator 2 was changed and improved greatly because test audiences didn't like the original happy ending.

[@pattheplanter]

I sit quite close to my laptop, so it seems like a large screen.

[@travisspazz1624]

Just like Taylor Sheridan I'll see anything Alex Garland has written, let alone directed!

[@aadityabhattacharya]

Travis Spazz both of them got really good record

[@MRulerrr]

spencer is 100% right! and roth saying that its a movie for critics just means she thinks that the viewers are dumb.

[@AlexLusth]

Now I wanna hear Roths boyfriends band.

[@ieatgremlins]

Alex Lusth I know. Who are they?

[@bucsfan846]

Same. Help?

[@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266]

Anybody?

[@yeskev]

Dying laughing at Spencer’s metal/death/grindcore impression 😂😂😂

[@M_J.]

Maybe they got nervous after the likes of Blade Runner bombed.

[@Spartan0417]

It did fine and deserves more than it got

[@garretneal1875]

Fearl It was a critical success, but it was projected to make more than it did.

[@megamoviez]

Fearl SO? This is a critical success too. A bombs a bomb.

[@lalalovenickie]

it was a success cuz it made brought in money but also a disappointment because it didn't make the amount expected.

[@gdsu234]

2049 lost about 80 million

[@TheRealPurpleHand]

Roth: "Set the screen on fire and shit..." Me: "YYYYYEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH"

[@cthulhuwayne7022]

I forgot Joe stars graphic, but Spencer's snark attack graphic is great.

[@ShogunsCustomMaps]

I can appreciate the argument that certain movies should be seen in a theater but I can also guarantee that the chances of this film playing in the international city I live in are extremely low. The fact that it is releasing to Netflix means I'll actually get to see it instead of just hearing people talk about it on shows like this. I hate to say this but sometimes you need to step out of your bubble and consider something from the perspective of people who actually live in these areas you only seem to consider as some sort of conceptual "what if" where anything is possible.

[@AnimalLover101195]

I’ve been following Screen Junkies closely and watching almost daily for about 2 months now. They all seem passionate and knowledgeable about their field but I really notice it in Dan. I can really see Dan’s passion for film in every video he’s in. I wish to work in a job one day where I have that kind of passion for something.

[@AnimalLover101195]

I'm actually a marketing major. I'm hoping to land a job post graduation that can pay my bills and that I actually enjoy. Throughout all the videos I've seen over the past few months, they all, especially Dan, seem to enjoy their jobs. It's a nice thing to see.

[@MarielAbella]

im so happy roth and dan fought hard for this movie because it is AMAZING thank you for pushing me over the edge to go watch it because it was incredible and i seriously wouldn't have considered it if you both didn't advocate for it more!!!! god i love screenjunkies thank you for always being such a delight!!!

[@remusblack9473]

SNARK ATTACK! Love it.

[@richarddufault]

Dirty Aunt Roth says "Daniel Craig can take ME down"

[@pedrocruz5947]

I often wonder if studios actually watch the movies they make. I imagine a guy in a suit saying "Mother? It's the one with that Lawrence chick, right? She's hot with teens, put it in a big screen. I don't need to waste 2h actually watching it.", because in the end, for that guy/gal, it's going to be the difference between a yacht and a slightly smaller yacht.

[@martinskage8213]

Remember when this happened to the little prince (2016), witch was also made by Paramount. Nobody (except for me) is talking about that now, but i think that it might be good for annihilation because lets be honest: more people are going to watch the movie now

[@kstepko]

Preach, Joe! I consider a movie going straight to Netflix to be the equivalent of a straight to video film.

[@kelwininkwel9207]

Love the passion you guys for film! Can't thank you guys enough..

[@kartikprasad4359]

Danielle Redford is a national treasure.

[@heythere6983]

this movie is fucking incredible and they shoulda marketed it more, the messed up marketing it like a horror movie tho, it was a great SCI FI movie and it exceeded what I thought I would see by a lot and I loved every second of it, all of it was surprising and so enjoyable, this movie should be huge! people mention this seems like the arrival I guess because they have no imagination, this is nothing like the arrival and this is way better

[@bernadmanny]

I'm in Australia and when I heard that it would be going straight-to-Netflix I was pissed. I actively love going to the cinema to see movies on the BIG screen the format they were made for. I also relish the lack of distractions in the theater compared to my lounge room.

[@BlackNerd94]

Wait...so I could have been watching Star Trek Discovery on Netflix like everyone else in the world that entire time??!? What extension is this???

[@richarddufault]

Not in Canada. We had to pay for Space or Crave. Which I did willingly.

[@brandonreed09]

VPN

[@realtrini2007]

yep. loved that.

[@jennibee2307]

I was excited for this movie too and I'm glad to see the good reviews. I'm a huge fan of cerebral sci-fi. If it's good I'll see it several times, like I did with Blade Runner.

[@tenar4566]

I was so excited for this movie when i heard about it... and now I can't see it properly in a movie theater :(((((

[@williestyle35]

That is golden! Danielle Radford interviewing Jason Bateman. Amazingly fun!! 🏵

[@williestyle35]

420th comment ^^

[@ConkersTr3]

I actually prefer watching films on my tv nowadays than in the cinema. I went to see Mad Max Fury Road in the cinema beacuse that was one i thought should be seen on the big screen, but during the action sequences i enjoyed them way more on my tv than in the cinema because i was able to focus on the entire image rather than having to pan from left to right constantly when watching it on the big screen. I believe in giving people choice, this elitist condescending attitude of "this has to be seen on the big screen" is annoying, maybe let me decide how i want to watch it. If all films were released at the same time on streaming and in the cinema i would never go to the cinema again, and i'd have a better experience. If i made a film i'd just be happy that people wanted to watch it or enjoy it rather than worrying if they saw it on the big screen. Also if it NEEDS to be seen on the big screen then your film probably won't stand the test of time cos you focused more on spectacle than crafting an engaging narrative.

[@williestyle35]

If you prefer seeing movies on your screen at home, the future is bright for more movies being primarily released that way.

[@ConkersTr3]

Let's hope so :)

[@rhythmoriented]

(24:20) Danny Boyle's Trance was great! Highly recommended for those who like non-linear storytelling - and loved both Rosario Dawson and James McAvoy. Boyle will bring some edge to the next Bond film.

[@CodyHallYoda0VGs]

is there a separate video somewhere of just Danielles interview?

[@jacobjohnson5314]

Jason Bateman really seemed to enjoy the questions Danielle had for him, always glad to see her.

[@reneew8181]

Annihilation is one of my most anticipated movies in years. Can't wait to see it after this SJU. Also, my heart lit up at the words "Danny Boyle Bond." Bless that man.

[@ardakarabocek4484]

Roth's smugness is ouzing out of this video. 'Us brilliant film critics ofcourse will appriciate a movie like this however dumb audiece will not get it.' You are so lucky you had Dan with you, he jumped on that comment like it was the grande on captain america first avenger.

[@badboyberty]

For those of us in regional towns the straight to Netflix thing is great. I only get to see blockbusters at the local cinema so getting to watch Annihilation early at home in Australia is a win.

[@qncsc]

the phrasing that they failed to not use was *"comparable to direct-to-dvd."* so, there is a kind of damp cloth on the thing ....if it is thought of being a (quasi) direct-to-dvd product. either people are going to feel that buzz or the marketing was reduced, limited and given poorer effort, with the studio thinking this was not "good enough, profit wise", producing a self-realizing effect of poorer outcome than desired.

[@nthBag]

34:27 The whole crew realizes their creative mortality

[@arthurvaughan3082]

Regarding the marketing of Annihilation: how do you guys differentiate between being okay with/liking how trailers may misrepresent films like Colossal, compared to hating when they do it with films like Mother!?

[@Spartan0417]

Arthur Vaughan I think the trailer for colossal was pretty accurate

[@LostWipeoutSimpsons]

Colossal's trailer was misleading and that made the movie better for me. It blew me away how dark it got.

[@mk6rfc1]

+Joel Gibbs I was the opposite, I saw the trailer and went this looks like an interesting and unique premise but I wasn’t so big on the 2nd half of the film cos it just changes completely

[@LostWipeoutSimpsons]

When a movie takes a huge shift in story, I tend to prefer to not have that spoiled by the trailer. It can backfire, and it sounds like it did for a lot of people with Colossal, but it can also make a movie so much better. For example, the first time I saw Lego Movie, I was blown away when they turned it on its head towards the end. Colossal was kind of played off as a comedy in the trailer, so I can see the disappointment factor when it became something else. It's a shame that movie flopped so badly. The writer/director is very inventive. (I have checked out a few of his other movies since Colossal).

[@leeannjames]

I live in New Zealand and I've been hugely looking forward to this movie. I am gutted that it won't be released in cinemas here.

[@kiddoe131]

Was having breakfast with my 3 year old, and he asked me to watch the Captain Crunch movie. When I tried to tell him there wasn't one, he told me there should be. Can you guys pitch a movie based off of your favorite breakfast cereal mascot/characters?

[@MichaelWutsch]

When is the US getting annihilation on Netflix? I would never see it in theaters but will gladly watch on netflix

[@whimsy-chan1188]

Kinda disappointed but I can kinda see why, I really loved Bladerunner 2049 last year but that unfortunatley didn't do great. A stunning movie though!

[@IsaacRooskov]

So sad that Annihilation isn't coming to cinemas here in Australia. I only just found that out last night and I had so been looking to going to the cinema to see it.

[@matejzacka5904]

The Moment when Dan argue against economical Logic and you know is great experience

[@garretneal1875]

For all you folks who prefer Netflix over going to the theater, with movie pass making cost less of a factor, what makes you prefer it? Does the size of the screen not matter as much? Picture/Sound quality? Bothered by crowds? Just very curious as someone who goes on the theater on the regular.

[@mr.m9765]

I was thinking about the trend changes that Annihilation will bring: --Like, Directors adding theatrical release as a clause in their agreement\contract. --Divergent cast walked on hearing of a TV release so what's the cast reaction on Annihilation's Netflix release. --Netflix or other streaming services becoming a dumping ground for movies whether risky, experimental, controversial or tracking low. --A new pool of movies like 2049, Mother and Annihilation etc.

[@scotts.110]

"Are science fiction and heart mutually exclusive? One word answer: Cocoon." - Steve Guttenberg

[@lisamortini8567]

I swear Jason Bateman is aging in reverse and getting hotter by the minute.

[@treypelletier192]

So when is it coming to Netflix in the states and Canada

[@Sendarya]

I currently live in Germany, and I am sorely disappointed about this news. Annihilation is the movie I was the most hyped to see, and I would have seen it in a theater!

[@emporerg4186]

Possible movie fights questions: What is the best/ worst exposition? Which is the best (non musical) movie soundtrack? What is the best/ worst movie product placement? Best / worst movie mode of transport? Choose a character from any 2018 best picture nominee, to help you survive the zombie apocalypse.

[@stephennootens916]

I'm in the US and it's not even close to me at least in the first week. My local theater still has fifty shades and peter rabbit. I hope it'll closer or I'll have to one of the more pricey theaters.

[@moshacre]

I remember how excited I was watching Ex Machina's trailer and then the disappointment of finding out that it was not going to be distributed in Mexico, at least this one is going on Netflix. It kind of prevents piracy a bit and makes me feel better that I'm paying to support the movie. I am expecting Annihilation so much, but it is sad that studios don't know how to get money without a movie being a blockbuster. I'm really sad that I won't get to watch it on the big screen, but I'll totally support this movie.

[@jesspsi9859]

What's the other film Roth recommends here BTW 🙏

[@storywala88]

Dan spoke my heart on Annihilation and he always does. I was so excited to see this on the big screen.

[@Austerich1]

When is it coming to Netflix?

[@Shugs1994]

From Britain and I’m so angry that we’re not getting to see this in cinemas. Screw Paramount

[@sophiehall6107]

Really looking forward to checking out Annihilation but unfortunately won't be on a big screen 😔. I second Roth's recommendation of Fringe - it's great!

[@TimenSpaceGaming]

what's roth's bf band name?

[@Zintag]

Time n' Space Gaming Darude Sandstorm

[@jeremyvelez9791]

I'm from France and really sad that I will not be able to go see Annihilation on the big screen...

[@mace8704]

Just to clarify, Annihilation only made 11 million domestically in the US with a budget of 40 million dollars. I know this was filmed prior to wide release. Therefore, it appears Paramount probably made a good decision...financially.

[@GonLeproso]

7:25 Netflix banned the use of proxys a long time ago :(

[@williestyle35]

How do you see timestamps?

[@herrjordan23]

Annihilation not coming to cinemas in germany is so disappounting. I'm not a critic, but a film-enthusiast and was really looking forward to this.

[@williestyle35]

Spencer Gilbert once again got it right when he boiled Paramount's reasons for selling "Annihilation" to Netflix: (now Paramount) "need(s) to liquidate him for cash right now" (about being in productions with Alex Garland). But that still plays back into what Dan was saying about Paramount knowing what they were buying with making an Alex Garland movie, and what Roth said about Paramount being "financially solvent to keep releasing art".

[@williestyle35]

"cheddar bay biscuits" from red lobster are like life, Spencer. Never enough of those.

[@mikeyabbott4694]

The proxy thing for Netflix doesn't work anymore its very disappointing

[@matthewrobinson5221]

Is released in the UK on March 12

[@Alchemist1330]

EVERYONE GO WATCH IT! YOU BASTARDS DIDN"T WATCH BLADE RUNNER AT LEAST GO TO THIS!!!!

[@mathematics9899]

Maybe people might be thinking about Netflix as a dumping ground because critics have been treating it like one since the very beginning of Netflix making original movies. Every time a new movie releases to Netflix you get all these "think pieces" about how Netflix is bad for filmmakers.

[@flilcha]

Hell yeah. I'm from Germany and I'm super pissed that it doesn't get a theatrical release.

[@user-xb7uu9rn9v]

Overseas, annihilation is not being as hyped as I guess it us there. I swich between three countries (UAE, Nigeria and the UK) across three continents and the main discussion about this film is the casting of a white woman for an asian character. I've actually only seen one promotional video for this and the rest is just a lot of people saying they won't see it. So maybe paramount was also aware of the controversy it might cause overseas.

[@user-xb7uu9rn9v]

Chief Brody because China is actually very used to whitewashing in film so they are usually surprised when things like this are controversial here

[@user-xb7uu9rn9v]

Yes, but Hollywood doesn't learn in terms of people talking about it, it understands money. By not giving it money people don't have to worry about not being heard. I don't even necessarily mean me, because it's not my type of film anyway, I'm just saying what people around me think

[@heythere6983]

I think they caused the controversy I knew I wanted to see it and I randomly saw someone mention it was "banned cause it was too smart" and then I realized what happened, if the audience hears about it they're gonna think, oh that movie that sucked so much it didn't really even get a movie release in theaters. I loved the movie its so good but I knew I wanted to see it months ago when I randomly saw the teaser

[@fanngurl164]

i personally prefer to watch this at home. i can pause & rewind as needed. as well as being super comfortable watching it. if its so "thought provoking and cerebral", i prefer to concentrate on it and not the uncomfortable seats, sticky floors, people rustling wrappers and crunching on snacks.

[@KW-vy1rf]

It's really surprising to me to see so many people who don't mind this. Maybe it's because I don't have Netflix or any other streaming service and I live in a place where people are generally pretty respectful in the cinema but if I don't see a movie in the cinema, the only way for me to watch it is on a plane, train or bus (often dubbed into Spanish) so I'm really annoyed by Paramount's move. I read the book in preparation for the movie ad was really looking forward to seeing it in theatres. I love the experience of sitting in a dark room with no phone or laptop to distract me and I'm bummed that now I'll have to go to a friend's house (hopefully) just to see this.

[@nathankroening1471]

So how's the plot/storh for annihilation? Your focus was on the visuals but I'm really more interested in the former.

[@Mearsphonic]

I saw it at a packed theatre last night, everyone seemed to love it. I loved it. Just a good film.

[@soalz7463]

Thankfully I’m actually gonna go see it at a Regal theater this saturday.

[@dirtmothertalzin]

Going to see the advanced screening tonight...... I'm pretty excited!

[@Cobralalalala]

Annihilation isn't playing in my city, as it's getting a 2,000 screen opening to just barely still call itself a wide release, which is really disappointing. I really want to see it, and three theatres in Greensboro are showing it, but if I go out of town for a movie, I still have two best picture nominees to see, so I'm not sure how things are going to go.

[@fandomentertainment]

That stinks. I really wish you could see it. If you do, let us know what you think. Side note: I have family in Greensboro -- it's gorgeous. -- Roth

[@Cobralalalala]

Thank you! I definitely will.

[@pumpkinspicetrashbag]

Spencer's deathcore/grindcore mimicks just made my entire morning.

[@alejandrarivera9657]

Not sure if we'll be getting Annihilation here in South Korea but I'm definitely watching it on my projector in a dark room if we don't. I was so excited about this movie and this just makes me so sad :(

[@kelwininkwel9207]

Yes loved loved Annihilation!! It's still replaying in my head. The score and visuals just wow!

[@thefilmeffect6089]

I personally love that this is coming to Netflix. I'm the asshole that would just rather stay at home and watch a movie. I have just come to realize that I just don't like people. I can chill in my own house, watch it on my huge 4k tv, and not have to deal with annoying bullshit. I'm all in!

[@Doran.]

I am a sci fi fan. I loved Arrival and Ex Machina. But before watching this video, I was not really interested in Annihilation because I hadn't heard much about it and because I knew it was being partially released on Netflix. That partial release said to me "this movie is low budget and not worth looking into." You really can't make a comparison between how this movie would have done in theaters by looking at its release in North America because that release is tainted by this perception. I will go see the movie now though because I trust Roth and Dan's opinions.

[@merlin9943]

I loved Fringe btw. I still miss it.

[@akshit318]

"Ex-machia" JTE being JTE....XD

[@R0krSam]

I was really hoping to check it out this weekend.. and then..... :(

[@drjwww]

Try doing a shot every time Roth says "legit," apparently thinking it's still 1991.

[@fandomentertainment]

Is it not? Damn, back in the day was all that and a bag of chips. :) You make a fair point. -- Roth

[@suiennui1095]

So angry I don't get to see Annihilation on the big screen in Australia.

[@Spartan0417]

I miss fringe so much

[@fandomentertainment]

Me too! -- Roth

[@NertardXD]

I was so sad when i found out Annihilation was going to netflix. it was the film i most looked forward to this year, it was going to be the first film i was going to the cinema to see this year and now i can't

[@Jis4joel]

I was interested in Annihilation when I heard the people behind the movie. Then I saw the trailer and thought it was a run of the mil Alian movie and lost interest. Then I saw this video and gave it a chance and absolutely loved this movie. I'm bummed out I didn't see it in theater but still glad I saw it, thanks Screen Junkies.

[@josephmeldrum2464]

So annoyed that its not being released in the cinema. The cast, director and the visuals all make for a film that would be a great

[@JohnBainbridge0]

Oh, no... Please, not a Joker origin movie! Joker's thing is that he has a baker's dozen origins - and none of them are true. His origin is literally a joke - and that's the joke! Don't ruin the joke by explaining it!

[@jaydenmaloney3579]

It's just fucking ridiculous that we can't watch it in the theatres here in Australia. If the movie was made to be watched in theatres, then it should be in theatres!!!

[@bioglassmusic]

(Canadian here) Don't make fun of the way we talk. Few people do it right. Cloverfield paradox was in no way a bad movie. Loved it. watch it multiple times. Bright was a fun take on a buddy cop movie i didn't have to pay money to see. Bladerunner 2049 was unbelievably good but I'm old and love the original Bladerunner that critics hated. Last Jedi I have mixed feelings over. DCEU is conceptually great but little things make it hard to like. Fringe was great. Danny Boyle is over and if he does a Bond prepare for a Ewan McBond.

[@dylanrivera1573]

Ooooo that little tension between Roth and Joe around the 12 minute mark .... tremendous.

[@stuartbagley2586]

Jason Bateman is a national treasure.

[@girass]

I'm not gay, but a cheddar biscuit is a cheddar biscuit.

[@meteor_boy]

I totally hear and understand and agree that some movies are more enjoyable on the big screen... but it's less and less true in my opinion. Just because now at home we get high quality equipment (4k for example). Yes it's still not the majority but it's the same as HD few years ago, it's a matter of time.

[@pjtarheel]

I don’t think you guys are using the term “high concept” correctly. Just FYI.

[@williestyle35]

Too true. It is meant as the opposite of how they used it.

[@knowyourhistory]

Yep. These guys would be surprised that Law and Order is the most high concept show of all time.

[@thapelomosiuoa2913]

It's really unfortunate that in their attempt to usurp the stranglehold cable networks and movie studios have had on original content Netflix has suddenly become known as the place studios can dump their movies based solely on the Cloverfield debacle and now Annihilation, even though Netflix has such a rich catalogue of great movies they've been putting out since 2015 like Tramps, Tallulah, Barry, Okja, Win It All, Burning Sands, Beasts of No Nation and The Incredible Jessica James among others that everyone has conveniently forgotten about. Netflix are partly to blame because their business model is to flood the market and drown out the competition but it's become such lazy reporting that every second publication is now referring to these as "straight to Netflix movies", the machinations are much more nuanced than that and I thought the SJU panel would be able to zone in on those nuances.

[@fryman58]

I was so hyped for Annihilation until I saw this video. I am tempted to wait for netflix. Hopefully, I can find a theatre around my area that shows it.

[@OlympiaStudiosProduction]

Busted out laughing at Spencer's breakdown growls. Also, if he doesn't know about Crab-core, then he's obviously a poser. HxC 4 life