Will OTHER Race Teams Join the Lawsuit? | How Tyler Reddick's Contract Helped 23XI's Legal Case

[@bobaboey]

Legacy motor club sounds like a retirement home for retired race car drivers.

[@Dark-ql7kn]

I mean…two guys who head it are retired drivers

[@CapstoneTider]

@bobaboey I think of Old Farts Motor Club and pontoon boats

[@YourMajesty9311]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@memepatriots]

The almost like Harvey Specter, grandpa age, you know bourbon and cigars. Kind of feel to it. I kinda like it in the new logo with aviation little bit. I don’t think that’s what they were going to work, but I don’t gotta look like you know the wings on a on a pilot motel so I’m cool with it. I’m on board and it’s Jimmy Johnson so everything he does. I’m pretty much gonna prove.

[@benjaminvattimo3252]

if you have to put “you can’t sue us” in an agreement, there’s some shady shit going on.

[@timothylites3653]

Why is no one talking about that, all these people covering the lawsuit is just like oh yeah there’s that you can’t sue us clause in there but no one’s talking about why is it in there like what shady shit has went down and everyone just let go and let slide.

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

I think it goes back to cases like rick baldwin when his wife tried to sue nascar for safety standards

[@jscott9360]

It's not near as unusual as you think. That kind of clause is in probably 40% of contracts. It's almost always followed by a clause that stipulates some sort of mediation process that is to be used instead. I'm sure that it's also in the charter agreement, even though the teams conveniently leave that part out. It also wouldn't apply to any situations where laws are broken by the governing body.

[@Ex0dus24]

@@timothylites3653 it is literally in 99% of contracts everyone has ever signed. Every end user license agreement you have agreed to has that clause in it. thats why noones talking about it, its because it is expected (which is also fucked but thats our world)

[@akmurf7429]

Translation, you can't sue us for our shitty unfair business practices that caused your organization to go bankrupt.

[@IsaacV24]

If this lawsuit actually improves NASCAR’s business model, I vow to never make another “Denny Hamlin has no championship” joke EVER again!

[@jacobevenson8702]

If it works out Hamlin would have the most important championship in the sports history

[@joshdavis6556]

He wins this lawsuit, and he instantly becomes a first ballot hall of famer

[@CapstoneTider]

If it decreases the amount of pay drivers, I'm all for it

[@joshdavis6556]

@@CapstoneTider i don't see how that would happen, but you're not wrong...

[@mikel.4885]

Nope hamlin still would suck....i don't get it nascar owns the game and if hamlin doesn't want to play by their rules then move along...nobody wants hamlin around anyhow

[@lemonwizard8395]

RIP Fred Lorenzen

[@DoctorElk]

I have said it before and I will say it again, MJ does not lose lawsuits. He is very good at dealing with litigation. And he hired the lawyer that was central to breaking the NCAA's pre-NIL arrangement. Many people said the NCAA would never lose a court case about scholarships and amateur status and look what happened there.

[@MonteD1]

Your coverage on this issue is the best.

[@2ndchancesadventures]

You obviously missed the part previously when he was a total NASCAR Homer

[@terrigoggin4443]

As always!!!

[@septemberwilson2546]

Kinda sad that this means Denny Hamlin will never make it into the Hall of Fame. Nascars Ego will never allow that now.

[@bafranksbro88]

If they lose the case and the judge makes it clear it’s likely they will, then it might not end up being their decision.

[@metalslinger]

Stop selling it, I already support the injunction.🤣

[@georgebarck-gh3vr]

@@septemberwilson2546 Yes he will. Go Denny!!!

[@easyenetwork2023]

NASCAR won’t hold that against him.

[@CJODell12]

Jim France and the Steves have to be *pissed*

[@georgebarck-gh3vr]

For sure.

[@aaronmaharajh441]

Good, they should. They literally call the fans who are trying to help this sport grow to be better and voice our opinions about Nascar being something else as just bots. Ignoring your fanbase is one thing, but calling the people who are trying to voice their opinions as bots is just too far

[@Momentum_Racing]

They should. The judge shouldn't have ruled in the teams favor for their injunction.

[@toddmusser6537]

Yup - and it’s likely to get worse for them if this goes to discovery. Said from the start the France family has never run up against the likes of Jeffrey Kessler.

[@easyenetwork2023]

I think Jim is not as dictatorial as his brother and dad.

[@RealisticFisHed]

RIP Fred Lorenzen, I believe he also has the record for fewest number of starts of any Cup Series driver inducted into the Hall of Fame, which shows how talented he was to have that kind of impact despite rarely running more than 20 races in a season.

[@t_jello420]

Highest winning percentage if i heard correctly

[@chrissnaproll26]

I said exactly that a few episodes ago, it’s time teams support 23-11 and FRM, this case was never going to fail. Great judgment

[@va.cracker9318]

Absolutely, they all need to get on the lawsuits. This is the time to make big headway on the manipulation that has happened since the inception of NASCAR.

[@jabber1990]

23XI

[@jscott9360]

Lol! It is most likely going to fail. Best case they settle and get a few concessions. They won't win the anti trust issues.

[@Momentum_Racing]

The teams had no evidence to get ruled in their favor. The teams are a bunch of fools. Nascar shouldve won the ruling

[@jscott9360]

@Momentum_Racing All that was granted was an injunction allowing the teams to compete as if they had signed the charter and under all terms of the charter agreement except the "cannot sue" clause. They really haven't won anything of substance at all. It was a no brainer ruling that any judge in the country just about would have granted because it is completely obvious that real harm is caused by not allowing them to compete as chartered teams while the case is litigated. The threat of losing their drivers and sponsors is obviously of great harm, not to mention the money lost by running as an open team. They were always going to get the injunction. Winning the rest of the case is a whole different story, although the fact that this judge seems to have bought the ridiculous argument that they have a monopoly on professional auto racing in America does help the teams case in his court anyways. I don't think that argument is guaranteed to hold up to the appeals process though. I think many other judges would be swayed by the argument that there are at least a half dozen other professional auto racing series in America that the teams could just as easily pour their resources into if they don't like the way nascar runs the show and that the "stock car" part of that equation is irrelevant as the cars aren't even remotely stock in nature. The entire case will take years to fully litigate, if both the teams and nascar insist on spending the considerable sums of money it takes to see it through to the end.

[@marcforget33]

Somewhere Larry Mac is punching drywall.

[@Bob-en1ge]

I hope he finds a stud.

[@mikefeltner4216]

Larry is GOD​@@Bob-en1ge

[@alwolf5024]

Ouch ! 🤯😡🤬 😢Good One !

[@toddmusser6537]

He owes his life and livelihood to the France family; he’s loyal, but also starting to lack objectivity and becoming a sycophant…

[@stephendemellojr9049]

Now, nascar gets to see how it feels to be bent over a barrel with no loop racings

[@Momentum_Racing]

23XI and FRM gave no evidence and won their injunction and people are happy with that? Hello

[@naparacingfan9275]

On this special holiday episode of Law & Order: Organized Charters, 23XI's and FRM's injunction was granted to race as charter teams without charters. It's the season of giving. Will other teams join the fight? Find out next year on Law & Order: Organized Charters.

[@skigolfmike]

I think if NASCAR doesn’t win their likely appeal, then this gets settled out of court before the end of 2025.

[@Zoniax-zc7xh]

I could have seen a JGR driver swap with Reddick and Hamlin, because apparently Toyota was a little upset with Denny for the lawsuit

[@claychamlee884]

I said the same!

[@jacksonrobison1901]

That would have been very interesting

[@nathan1sixteen]

And, JGR would have ever right. Hamlin is going to be distracted throughout this lawsuit. I think his playoff performance can be chalked up a bit to his distraction. Also, he’s an active competitor to JGR

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@nathan1sixteenDenny gets support from JGR.

[@OrganizedMess0025]

I’m not comparing Dennis to the late great Dale sr, but we’ve never had a driver willing to put nascars on blast since him. This is a much needed thing for the sport. It sucks that Dennis can’t command the garage like Dale did, but nascar facing some heat hopefully brings some much needed change in direction.

[@eric.lowery]

Denny can't command the garage that much, but Michael has more money than the France family combined.

[@Eddie-d5n]

There's no one that will fill Dale Sts shoes if MJ wasn't in the sport we would not be hearing any of this, Just like BW crying a few years ago.Nascar was SO much better back in the old days.

[@easyenetwork2023]

Denny does not have the sponsors in his hands like Dale did.

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@eric.loweryJim France himself is worth $1.8 billion.

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@eric.loweryThe France family is worth $5.7 billion.

[@buddymcmullin4247]

My Wife and I are close followers of several Nascar reporters podcasts and network shows, and we find Eric to consistently be quick to report, factually correct, fair, and devoid of the normal BS that coats most Programs. We shop Eric 1st whenever possible!

[@Cloudy341blade]

The other teams shouldn’t have the same deal that 23xi and frm have tbh they signed the agreement and let nascar control them and let nascar walk on them while 23xi and frm decided to fight they deserve the better deal not the other teams in my opinion

[@zekecowans7792]

Agreed. Maybe re allocate the 4 car teams to 23 and frm and screw the current ones to a limit of 3

[@jbonn5365]

Yeah. I agree. I'd even argue that if another team was to join now it would be a bad look. Almost as if to say; "ohhh... Look what you guys did. You're gaining some traction. NOW I'll join in on this". Had all the teams just sided with 23XI and FR, NASCAR wouldn't have had a choice I don't think. The teams had the power to see this through and likely pull it off.

[@coolguy20000000]

honestly that just vindictive and stupid. They have a much better case if the teams that felt like they were strong armed into signing jump on. it gives the case more proof of NASCAR abusing its monopoly powers to force teams into signing a subpar deal that they didnt want to sign.

[@easyenetwork2023]

Not how it works. The other teams likely get what 23XI and FRM get because changes would be made to charter agreements.

[@NewNomics]

Mentioning NASCAR as a monopoly in that ruling and a time frame to settle the matter I think was a fair warning by the judge to get back to the table before they schedule the trial. Barring a successful appeal of course... If NASCAR wants to keep its books under wraps they need to work this out before a trial... Before other teams jump on board... Yeah, the pressure for now is really all on NASCAR.

[@bafranksbro88]

Yeah I don’t think the judge even needed to talk about the monopoly issue at all in this ruling and yet he not only did but set a timeframe for resolution should the case go forward. If I’m nascar reading that judgement I’m immediately trying to settle to avoid the discovery process, I don’t think NASCAR wants anything to become public and their odds seem rather long now. If they take too long other teams could join and resolving this in that case would get more messy with more teams involved.

[@clintjenkins3636]

Part of this monopoly was discused yesterday when Eric mentioned the fact of importance for the final race track being owned by the France family

[@vmillerphoto]

I knew this antitrust litigation was going to work for 23XI and Front Row. These guys are cleaning up Nascar for everybody else.

[@nathanmiddaugh6986]

NASCAR still has the upper hand. But they are on shaky ground. If Penske/Hendrick/JGR joins the case or the majority of teams join. That being said, I’d guess 23XI informally told Reddick make sure to submit notice. It will allow us to get some leverage in court.

[@rayraynod]

It is always about the team who have the Best and the Smartest lawyers who wins cases. Mike Jordan has the power and the money to fight NASCAR in court.

[@iceman942]

Stewart/Haas would have had irrepeptable harms towards them because Nascar wouldn't allow the charter to be used by these teams, so they can't buy the charters and use those charters. That is going harm SH and any teams who wanted to buy these charters.

[@quentinjeffers2533]

What's ironic is that both 23XI and Vanderbilts Quarterback Diego Pavia both got preliminary injunctions on the same day lol

[@jayjohn289]

Mr. Estepp Nascar never has reversed it's course and I seriously doubt they will start now. Thanks for all the great work love the channel.

[@georgebarck-gh3vr]

Better watch out 2025. They are going to watch 23/11 and front row close. Hope Denny make a championship run.

[@Smalleyster]

By far your best analysis yet. Thank you.

[@markroberts9577]

Cook the books. Destroy the incriminating evidence!

[@fatjeff8083]

Who would be the biggest winners if the lawsuit prevails? Not only would JGR and HMS see the extra cash/considerations but will also have the huge advantage of being allowed one more charter than every other team. The rich get richer?

[@bucknaked406]

Thats very true. I think if Rick or Joe had sued them, it would been settled a long time ago. It kinda seems like HMS & JGR used 2311 & FR as bait.

[@bafranksbro88]

Pretty shocked by the judge’s words, I believed it was true that NASCAR is a monopoly but never thought the court would go along with that. He’s clearly giving both parties a preview of the whole case. The whole case is about NASCAR being a monopoly and the injunction did not require him to comment on the monopoly portion at all. The fact he went there is a warning shot at NASCAR at what they are facing. I would not be shocked if NASCAR now wants to settle given what the judge said. Their only other way appears to be through those potentially world shattering judgements and maybe to a court that’s potentially more favorable to them. I think the decision is whether they want to risk it by going through or finding a settlement to avoid the discovery process where god knows what could become public plus the poor outlook.

[@CapstoneTider]

I think the judge was referring to a monopoly from the plaintiffs point of view in this case, not as a final judgment.

[@ming454]

Monopoly isn't something subjective, there's no points of view.

[@PeterFish-y6z]

There might not be a top level ride available right now, but the last few seasons have shown that top drivers can miss races for injuries and those teams need to fill that ride with a good driver to stay in owners points competition.

[@jonjackson6245]

Additional teams joining the lawsuit could happen but, probably unnecessary. Any ruling or negotiation will affect the charter process as a whole and not just individual charters. What will NASCAR's next move to slow down the discovery process? If they don't want to share their financial information this could end rather quickly.

[@thejerniganLIFE]

Man seeing The Brad Keselowski car on the shelf is Soo Gorgeous. 😂

[@shaheerahmed5134]

Thank you Eric for these amazing videos i dont know what else to watch over the offseason much appreciated mate

[@netgenrb]

Fast Fred Lorenzen - my Favorite driver of the 60s

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

Sad about fred. He lived 1 town over from me. Its even more sad that there is NOTHING in elmhurst il to signify the mans achievements. I mean sure, we dont have a bobby wawak statue in our town, but thats understandable (no offense to bobby lol). But fred is a usac champion and daytona 500 winner. I think he deserves something in his town (where he grew up and lived post-nascar, pretty much a lifer there) to celebrate his achievments. Makes me mad now that fred wont be around to see it if they ever do. Shouldve been done 30+ yrs ago imo

[@OUSWKR]

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. NASCAR is nothing without the teams just like MLB, NBA, and the NHL are nothing without their teams. Whether they like it or not NASCAR needs to change their model if they want to compete and be like the other sports in America. The teams have to have a model where they cannot only survive, but thrive. If the teams are healthy then NASCAR would be healthy as well.

[@davycrocker4842]

if nascar closes down, how many teams are bankrupt?

[@Ethan.D.McKinney37195]

Imagine if most major teams join the lawsuit. RCR, Trackhouse, RFK.....even Hendrick, JGR?

[@oldcdawg1]

Isn't it convenient that 23 XI needed to show harm for their lawsuit and Buba gave it to them, where could he go that is anything close to where he is at?

[@John-b4d1b]

lol, this guy never said it was Bubba Wallace contract he said it was tyler reddick , but you have to put it on Bubba

[@r3dn3ck774c]

If my memory serves more than just Richard felt that way. I feel in a way Rick had once said something somewhat like this about having their hands tied behind their back

[@cndream1]

This was all percipitated by the introduction of race team charters. Nascar controls and "owns" everything including the cars. A little guy is at an impossible situation to race effectively or monetarilly without a charter. The conditions are controlled and one sided. Anyone should have the chance to compete on "equal" grounds if they have a desire.Including equal purse money, access to cars etc. Get rid of the charters, period. Get back to racing on merit, ability, desire, creativity

[@skigolfmike]

Gibbs could have replaced Denny with Tyler. That would have made this even more interesting.

[@Momentum_Racing]

That makes no sense

[@skigolfmike]

@ yeah, but imagine the uproar.

[@BootieScootRacingLLC]

ERIC ! Perfect opportunity to bring out the Legacy Motorclub Bracket of change😂😂

[@jacksonrobison1901]

True

[@clintburns7470]

I'm glad to see this major and crucial win for the teams. Now NASCAR has a choice to make. Continue to court and go through the discovery process or settle outside

[@Momentum_Racing]

Your happy to see the teams that gave no evidence win their injunction? Alright

[@BonzoOnFMB]

Bubbles would not do well as a free agent.

[@ZPaul_]

Let’s be real here if I’m one of these drivers and the injunction was denied I’m sorry but I would begin to look elsewhere for a ride.

[@jacksonrobison1901]

Me too

[@Clashwithcodeman]

I hate Denny as a driver but I love him as an owner

[@joshuapboston1999]

I trust that I am not more dense than my fellow NASCAR fans, but I have a little bit of concern with this entire case. While I am happy that the teams got their injunction, there is a bigger issue to also worry about. Do we see a potential split of the sanctioning body similar to IndyCar and CART in 1996, and we suffer just as bad, if not worse, than they do? Or does the sanctioning body stay solid and remain out of total obsolescence?

[@RichieRichpobutproud]

Problem is, nascar owns the vast majority of the tracks

[@donaldritchie7637]

Last time we had a team logo change, they were out of business at the end of the year.

[@SniperTrader7733]

Lawsuits never end well. This will tarnish all parties involved.

[@flint005]

Austin Dilllon move into office and Tyer Reddick back to RCR? driving the 3? LOL stranger things have happened... so yeah it could have happened

[@jacobpickelsimer7093]

The only option for Reddick other than 23XI in my opinion would have been if his car owner Denny Hamlin possibly retiring and letting Reddick have that seat but obviously they got the injunction now so no reason for that to happen

[@3dc983]

The true winners are the other nascar teams. Either way they are set to make more money. Either less charter teams so more revenue shared amongst themselves. Or a better deal thru the lawsuit. Either way they come out better.

[@erniebrown2703]

Nascar is doing themselves a death by a thousand cuts 😔

[@psinclairjr]

The France Family is used to always winning, enter Michael Jordan

[@akmurf7429]

It reminds me of the old robber baron days when certain families had monopolies and enslaved the working man. I hope the teams win!

[@sketchyron5025]

Everyone who signed the charter agreement made their bed and should lay in it.

[@jscott9360]

There is no real benefit to other teams joining the suit. It is likely that IF the teams win any concessions through a judgement or just settling out of court with nascar, that nascar would be forced to allow all the teams to benefit from any changes, possibly by having them all sign new charter agreements or addendums. There really is no reason for the other teams to incur the legal expense of joining the suit to gain something they will get for free if anything good comes of it. I still don't think the teams have a very strong case and i think nascar will ultimately prevail on the merits of the teams claims, but this is going to be expensive for both parties and take 2-3 years to fight out completely. It's not clear that both parties are really prepared to endure the entire process.

[@smoove7932]

@jscott9360 Could the other teams even join the lawsuit? They already signed a binding contract so aren't they bound to it already? Would it be due to it is not 2025 yet so the contact has not gone into effect? Also do you know how judges are hearing these motions and ruling on them so quickly? Aren't the legal system and courts so far behind, how are these cases moving to the front of the line so quickly?

[@jscott9360]

@smoove7932 yes they could I think. This judge has ruled that the cannot sue clause is basically invalid. Now, if nascar appeals that ruling, it could be reversed, but I don't think that is a likely outcome for just this part of the case. There just really isn't any benefit for other teams to join the suit that they aren't virtually guaranteed of getting if the 2 teams win anything of substance. The courts can move very fast when not doing so causes irreparable harm to either party. They don't have to, of course, but they usually do their best and there are definite time constraints on this case by the nature of the competitive season and all of its set dates. All that was granted was an injunction allowing the teams to compete as if they had signed the charter and under all terms of the charter agreement except the "cannot sue" clause. They really haven't won anything of substance at all. It was a no brainer ruling that any judge in the country just about would have granted because it is completely obvious that real harm is caused by not allowing them to compete as chartered teams while the case is litigated. The threat of losing their drivers and sponsors is obviously of great harm, not to mention the money lost by running as an open team. They were always going to get the injunction. Winning the rest of the case is a whole different story, although the fact that this judge seems to have bought the ridiculous argument that they have a monopoly on professional auto racing in America does help the teams case in his court anyways. I don't think that argument is guaranteed to hold up to the appeals process though. I think many other judges would be swayed by the argument that there are at least a half dozen other professional auto racing series in America that the teams could just as easily pour their resources into if they don't like the way nascar runs the show and that the "stock car" part of that equation is irrelevant as the cars aren't even remotely stock in nature. The entire case will take years to fully litigate, if both the teams and nascar insist on spending the considerable sums of money it takes to see it through to the end.

[@andyharman3022]

NASCAR designed the current race car for the Cup series. They tell the teams where parts for it have to be bought, and penalize them if they get them somewhere else. The teams can't race that car in any other series in North America. The judge couldn't help but find that NASCAR has monopoly power.

[@donluthringer7173]

Eric you do a good job as compared to some others, 12 19 2024 Sacramento,calif

[@GymLeaderEllie]

that new keselowski die cast looks real good on your shelf 🏎️

[@jakewagoner]

Nascar stepped in pretty good assumed nobody would fight back...but if these 2 teams don't win this year the whole thing might seem a bit pointless and I'd expect Nascar to cut them no slack the way they ticky tack penalty's they could be in for a rough time even winning the lawsuit.

[@allenrudisill2082]

Thanks eric for explaining this so people can understand it won't make me stop watching racing just hope these drivers involved in this lawsuit know there no going to be winning anytime soon 😂😂

[@jacksonrobison1901]

I’m disappointed in the legacy announcement. It could have been Martin truex jr running the Daytona 500 with them. Stupid logo

[@jimbojones3400]

Let’s see the books 📚 we’re the money

[@elijames3041]

How are you Eric

[@outfield1988]

Rest in peace Fred

[@clintburns7470]

@ericestepp what do you think NASCAR and the teams will come to if they were to settle outside of court ?? I know you've done videos on what the teams are arguing but what are your thoughts on the possible realistic outcome to have them settle and not go to the discovery phase in court

[@ThomasLoomis-w1u]

RIP ..FRED LORENZEN. ONE IF THE GREATEST. ,,A legend in his own time . "Law and order. Nascar style " tune in tomorrow for. More drama congrats to 2311 and front row. now it's a waiting.periid. Let's see what nascar can come with now .that's not in the. Nascar rulebook.. thanks for the. Update. You really put it in simple terms. . your the best keep up the great work. Have a great night. .

[@formulafish1536]

I genuinely believe all of the contract talk was purely the drivers trying to help their teams, as they’re happy and don’t want to go elsewhere

[@LightningLeif]

I hope you were able to hear the mentions of out of the groove on Nascar XM Speedway today.

[@r3dn3ck774c]

I've always thought legacy needed that addition to the logo since the rebranding to legacy motorclub.

[@fishhuntadventure]

4:24 Changes would be mandated to apply to all teams

[@DeMorcan]

NIL changed all college sports and recruiting for colleges. Just because it has been that way does not mean the law will continue to ignore it.

[@hottake8940]

The monetary difference between an open cup team and a chartered one in and of itself is irreparable, placed alongside the anti-trust of the "no suit clause" leaves NASCAR scrambling now.

[@SniperTrader7733]

What will you do when NASCAR sells out?

[@SniperTrader7733]

Or forced to sell off racetracks.

[@nathan1sixteen]

Corey Heim has a contract with 23XI?

[@scottchamberlain5594]

Far be it from me to say "I've been telling you this was where it would go"

[@BenMyattt]

It doesn’t really matter if Reddick was going to leave or not? great legal argument for 23XI

[@adamliechty9354]

Bet Bubba is super happy !!! Cause he ain't making the field as a non charter car just saying 😂

[@davidkelton8546]

Eveyone seams to side with the teams. When getting into racing either an owner or driver, you do for the love not the money. Ask any local track participate. You also have to go by the local rules, like or not. There are no other top traveling stock car series available to go to. The ones in the past needed Nascar help or would go under. If non chartered teams maybe were able to get better payouts there might be more teams to come into the sport fulltime. Give the underdog the shots as well. Lets get back to 43 car fields.

[@IceCar420]

The charter system in itself if kinda monopolistic. Yes you can buy a charter at market value but NASCAR has to approve it. Plus there are only 36 charters so NASCAR makes the 4 open spots so much less in the purse department that it does makes any since to be an open team unless it's literally like the Daytona 500. Even though the teams want it to be permanent.

[@Aidansmid224]

7:18 COREY HIEM!?!?

[@miguelcorona6047]

Corey heim???? Hmmm 🤔

[@thebakuganconvertsystem9782]

Still not reporting the Tim Brown announcement… nice👍

[@jacksonrobison1901]

I know what’s up with Eric

[@thebakuganconvertsystem9782]

I’m just going to comment about it until he does lol. The Haas “news” was a complete nothing burger because everything there chief said RWR already has lol. Stop reporting about nothing lol talk about Tim

[@EricEstepp]

​@thebakuganconvertsystem9782 Definitely worth a mention in tomorrow's show. The last couple days have been busy with the lawsuit news, and I don't usually cover Tim Brown so that topic will require additional research.

[@thebakuganconvertsystem9782]

@ thank you. It’s just surprising that you weren’t covering something like that especially since he is arguably a future Hall of Famer because of his achievements in the modified division. Just at bowman gray he has 101 wins, 12 championships and 146 poles

[@jacksonrobison1901]

@@thebakuganconvertsystem9782 do you like Tim Brown or something

[@iceeblueburst03]

Nice that they got their charters

[@alextharsis]

23XI and FRM are the only teams that had the courage to stand up and fight. The other, cowardly teams don’t deserve a thing.

[@Bob-en1ge]

Maybe, but I don't think the court will see it that way.

[@alextharsis]

Oh, I know that. If 23XI and FRM prevail in the lawsuit, then the teams will benefit as a matter of law. The latter are sitting back watching the former storm the beach and go through the barbed wire. Rick Hendrick has already said that if 23XI and FRM get a better deal than the teams that caved, then the other teams better get it, too.

[@marcusvillarreal]

Eric Estepp and everyone what are your plans during the nascar off season?

[@scable-eq7bp]

Does anyone have the list of drivers participating in the 2025 ARCA Menards test session at Daytona Jan. 9-10?

[@richardlewis2290]

By their own stubbornness, they have opened the floodgates. NASCAR is going to have to admit they are a monopoly. They own the series, the drivers and the tracks. This is the beginning of the breaking of the dam.

[@aaronclawson835]

They signed that contract for Reddit, and then didn't provide him a charter. That's their fault.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

Reddit plays NASCAR…

[@JimmyJolly-d8v]

Reddicks contract was sign long before this lawsuit become a issue

[@aaronclawson835]

@JimmyJolly-d8v The only thing detrimental to 2311 and FRM is their owners.

[@JimmyJolly-d8v]

@@aaronclawson835 I disagree even though I can't stand Denny or bubber

[@crashnburn42066]

2311 just made a f***ing joke out of NASCAR, WHO IS WEARING THE KNEE PADS.

[@marcusvillarreal]

Have a merry off season and a happy Christmas quote from chase elliott

[@jacksonrobison1901]

I will try

[@marcusvillarreal]

​@@jacksonrobison1901thank you my friend 🧡

[@ChuckHickl]

keep riding the wave Eric, flip-flopping to whatever side gets you the cicks!

[@ryanmichaels297]

Well played??? They had the ability to provide all of that information the first time around and failed to do so. I feel they then had to manufacture a bunch of it to make it happen this time around. Call Loves and ask them to email, Denny had to have Tyler write that statement to the team. This is all stuff they should have done prior to the first request.

[@StevenP727]

No jrm paint scheme

[@samuelstewart495]

I mean of all if not most of the other teams join the lawsuit then they have no chance but to redo a deal. It would force them to or almost shut down as a racing organization. Can’t race with no teams.

[@bagelcatinator8243]

So… now that we know they’re getting three charters next year… how about we bring up the third front row car again?