HUGE Legal WIN For 23XI, Front Row | Haas Now "Fourth RFK Car" | Xfinity Series Driver Move

[@Nafsllib]

The fact that 23xi and FRM can continue to compete as charter teams shoukd bring Nascar back to the negotiation table. No way Nascar wants to go through discovery on this case

[@BrandoTheGamingChampionship]

Fred Lorenzen 1934-2024 gone but not forgotten

[@8309barbie]

😢

[@xavierjuno4572]

RIP

[@scottchamberlain5594]

Ahhhhh, and hardly a word! He was my first favorite driver. Thanks for the memories in an all too short career.

[@glonniecanoy3441]

The driver of the popular #28 Lafayette Ford... Never forget.

[@NoahGragsonFan629]

RIP

[@Mattsbeybattles]

The most interesting thing was what Matt Weaver pointed out. If the release clause is unenforceable, could other teams join? We know Childress wasn't happy with the agreement.

[@PatrickAdia]

I’m giving Haas a lot of credit for not clinging to past glories and making changes based on where they are now.

[@DaHomieBurns]

RIP Fred Lorenzen. A remarkable talent on the track and one who pushed NASCAR to become recognizable in the early years that set the standard as NASCAR's Golden Boy all be it as a good thing. Like Lorenzen, Estepp himself continues to help reach new fans in NASCAR by his good content, so keep up the work, Eric, and for Fred Lorenzen, he's now one lap ahead of us.

[@psinclairjr]

Thank you for this comment I wasn't aware yet. We are losing our legends so fast, it makes me appreciate our living legends more and more

[@JrRobles95]

I did not expect this. May he rest in peace 🕊️. When did he pass away

[@johnlafever3162]

@@JrRobles95today, he was 89.

[@RussellColeman-p2w]

Brad understood what it took for Penske to succeed. He built the model that Joey and Ryan enjoy today. RFK is going to be a powerhouse very soon.

[@bighand1530]

I would be up for that happening as soon as 2025.

[@stephenfink4695]

Nascar has put themselves in this position. They will only win long term if they lose this battle. If Nascar wins this battle they will ultimately lose the war. I’m on the edge of my seat watching this unfold.

[@montybarbee8128]

Glad for the teams and the court’s decision. Even if I am not a Hamlin fan but I do agree with the teams on the fact that NASCAR is and has been a monopolization

[@hailstorm1986]

I'm glad the judge made this ruling because these teams have done nothing wrong but instead are standing up to Jim France and Steve Phelps as more teams should have from the beginning!!

[@PaperBanjo64]

Slapshoes thinks Brian France was a puppet and Jim France was running the show all along...nothing changed when Brian was allegedly sacked if anything 550 package and the Gen 7 car both happened, none of the changes made by "Brian" were undone...as for Steve Phelps he gives me politician vibes, the way he looks and talks...sounds just like a politician...I have NEVER liked him!

[@glonniecanoy3441]

Congrats, 23XI Racing & FRM, consider that as a Christmas Miracle to you guys.

[@kdautoks]

It's about time NASCAR is identified as the Monopoly that it is!!!! Open the books!!!

[@JackCallSports]

Zane smith is the happiest man today

[@dennisboyd1712]

Yes, he's been hung out to dry by Track House & then this Lawsuit, but he's Not a Quitter

[@nomadman5288]

I don't know, I feel like now that NASCAR and the France family know that they're probably going to have to show their books, they're going to try and come to an agreement to prevent that from happening. I would be surprised if we don't see them make some compromises and alter the charter agreement to give a little more to the teams. It would be a small price to pay compared to opening their books imo.

[@sumoneelse6881]

I want this goes to discovery. It is time crush this tyrannical behavior of NASCAR!!!

[@dennisboyd1712]

NASCAR, the France Family will never Drop Their Financial Pants & expose all the many ways they receive payments from all those they do business with. On Top of the new media rights deal as it's worth a total of $7.7 billion

[@zumptt]

Thats not how it works legally or in real life... you cant bully someone and once they get a little leverage try to save face. 23XI and FRM are on offense, they dont care what Nascar does they clearly arent a fan of Nascar they arent even gonna listen to a new agreement until the suit is settled or dropped.

[@mikel.4885]

Dont give hamlin anything its nascars game and if he doesn't want to play by their rules then move along....fans don't want him and his toyotas and bascar doesn't need him

[@therealBocaStudios]

A judge also reviewed that NASCAR is a monopoly or may be a monopoly…

[@timleland4787]

Not a Hamlin fan but I admire what he is doing for these teams.

[@graywolf4696]

I completely agree.

[@EndlessFlameout4]

And MJ too

[@graywolf4696]

@EndlessFlameout4 I like MJ though, was a huge fan of his in the 90s

[@EndlessFlameout4]

@@graywolf4696 same

[@chuckdillon3930]

It's about time someone admited that fact , like him or not what him and MJ are doing is for the team's .

[@the_keen_edge]

This is not only good for 23XI, Front row, and Haas, it's also a win for the fan's. Watching NASCAR bend a knee puts a smile on my face.

[@gilfernandez9122]

Agreed!

[@Momentum_Racing]

Ok please explain how is that good for the fans. 23XI practically gave no evidence to win their injunction case

[@FreezeBail-c4d]

@@Momentum_RacingJust watch the video

[@Momentum_Racing]

@@FreezeBail-c4d the evidence has no value to it. You can't just say that you'll lose sponsors and drivers and claim that as evidence. If you are gonna say that, then provide evidence of drivers and sponsors losing money, like JTG 37 team

[@karenkoe7096]

@@Momentum_Racing You have seen the all the paperwork/evidence?

[@existinginaspace8347]

Brad as a Nascar driver. - Solid, reliable. Brad as a business manager - Nuclear tier threat.

[@zippymistletoe1272]

Brad as a driver - Champion

[@anthonypuckett2795]

Brad as a drafting partner - Lethal.

[@woofersd2383]

2311 and Frontrow, better have the most perfect cars going through tech next year. And years to come.

[@JamieTheBangles11Fan]

And HMS fans think they hate Denny Hamlin. France Family: Hold my beer!

[@President_Grover_Cleveland]

As a pretty big HMS fan myself… I can’t say I ever hated Denny, at least not to a point if that makes sense. For awhile I thought he was kinda a jerk on track but I liked what he would say on his podcast. Long story short… I actually like him now bc of this lawsuit and his willingness to take it to the big guy. I’m rooting for him!!

[@mancavechronicles2139]

I don't like Hamlin one bit. But, I am damm glad 23XI and FRM won the injunction . NASCAR be eating a little humble pie this Christmas.

[@PatandDoopypoopy]

100% agree

[@Momentum_Racing]

The teams had no evidence to win their injunction. They shouldn't have been ruled in their favor

[@hamlinfanatic11]

Retzlaff was better than stats will show in Xfinity, he shined in Qualifying especially this season. Making the playoffs doesn't matter as an accomplishment and he did nothing wrong at Daytona in August.

[@ZRobertson91]

I think I know seven cars that will be inspected more heavily next season 😂

[@bigyodatheman]

And if they are treated differently they have more ammo for the lawsuit and it will be used as evidence. Nascar better be careful.

[@kindsteel5]

seven?

[@WidowmakerFiveSeven]

@@kindsteel5I’d assume the three 23xl cars the three frm cars and dennys car

[@slick-px4pq]

Dennys car would make seven​@@kindsteel5

[@michaelrose6696]

I don’t think NASCAR, even as stupid as they are will have to write a large check

[@tonydaniels7576]

Great update today Eric! Also , that is a beautiful Die-Cast also.

[@markhopper4600]

I bet Tony Stewart is doing cartwheels 😂

[@KenHauptfleisch]

Probably more like somersaults

[@breadedagenda]

He's in decent enough shape to maybe pull one off too, so here's hoping NASCAR gets that long-awaited egg on their face and forced to capitulate.

[@PaperBanjo64]

He's probably celebrating with soda cookies

[@IvyLeather13]

Kessler is undefeated, the teams picked the right man.

[@JGR4LIFE20]

The teams winning a part of the lawsuit was a early Christmas gift for all of us

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

More like a Christmas miracle, considering NASCAR

[@joeykonrath4414]

I pray nascar counters and they can't be chartered teams. They didn't sign the agreement that is on them. Some bs they get to be chartered teams without signing the legal agreement.

[@hawghead4596]

They did not sign the agreement. NASCAR will not shop for a judge to null the order, and they will have a great argument.

[@DaveReece-u4b]

@@joeykonrath4414the injunction forces NASCAR to let them race as chartered teams

[@EndlessFlameout4]

​@@joeykonrath4414 NASCAR burner found

[@AndrewFRC135]

Feels like another Wood Brothers/Penske alliance kind of deal, and that's not a bad thing at all.

[@DanMaxwell16]

Denny might as well set up a recliner in the tech shed.

[@Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy]

All of this is nice info...but I gotta say one thing. The ooey gooey butter cakes are incredible. Found them at a Sheetz and my goodness they are so good. Thanks for having them as a sponser.

[@sagethevvitch]

That's awesome. Any legal precedent that's set that favors the teams/drivers is a great thing for any future lawsuits and agreements.

[@AmericanPoliceCams]

I think Custer runs around 15th to 20th his first year back with no wins but the 2nd year he'll start coming into his own and possibly win. 3rd year he wins for sure

[@JoeyWells-jr3pl]

Maybe, but briscoe is better than custer

[@Lord_Reavous]

This is just NASCAR's hubris catching up with them. The moment they denied the sale of the SHR Charters, they crossed the line. I'm going to make a prediction: This will get settled by Summer, it won't go to court.

[@jackshafto9123]

That’s only if 23IX and FR doesn’t wanna go the distance. If you can win the battle why not see it through.

[@Lord_Reavous]

@@jackshafto9123 I mean yeah, if they really want the documents they push to discovery. And see how strong a case they have and decide to pursue further. I just don't know that they really want to wait a year or two to get what they want. NASCAR likely settles quickly if they feel their documents will damn them so they will cave. Lawyers and court fees get expensive. Otherwise NASCAR continues to be high and mighty and seeks trial for vindication.

[@jackshafto9123]

@ NASCAR does not want to go to trial. All other sports have won these type of lawsuits. Jordan didn’t hire the lawyers from previous lawsuits that were successful for anything

[@septemberwilson2546]

Genuinely did not think this was going to happen. Really thought everything was just going to go nascars way

[@Momentum_Racing]

Nascar shouldve won this injunction. The evidence 23XI and FRM brought means practically nothing

[@MitchCollins15]

Great news for the teams, great news for the fans

[@gregorygolden1296]

Sure hope 23XI and NASCAR get this worked out for the benefit of ALL Teams. Sooner or later something has gotta give. It's not that NASCAR is hurting for money, they just got to think about every single person who works and works hard to get a car on the grid week in and week out. You can't have a Chief of you don't have any Indians. Without ALL of them NASCAR has nothing.

[@dennisboyd1712]

In the End it will Benefit all the Teams as then they may actually own something, their Charters Right now, it like " You Will Own Nothing & Be Happy"

[@horsecrazyviking7121]

@@dennisboyd1712right now it only benefits 23XI and FRM.

[@matthewmccrea7799]

Retzlaff is a beast. He’s one of the “underrated” drivers. Don’t sleep on him. He’s done things in underfunded equipment equivalent to KFB. Tried too hard and drove beyond equipment capability.

[@bigyodatheman]

Called this from the beginning. Anyone who thought otherwise was high.

[@marcusvillarreal]

Have a merry off season and a happy Christmas quote from chase elliott

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

The possibility of Reddick being a free agent is wild!!! Speculation on who would have picked him up if he was free???

[@royfraser4241]

happy for both of these teams now is the time for other teams to step up

[@charlesharter3068]

WooHooo! Boogity, boogity, boogity! Let's go racing! Let's take it to the bullies! Good job, keep it up!

[@marcusvillarreal]

Eric Estepp and everyone what are your plans during the nascar off season?

[@bobwhitebread1887]

I hope Brad K wins a lot this year and wins the championship.

[@bighand1530]

Same. And if Brad Keselowski wins the 2025 championship, he would beat Terry Labonte’s record as far as biggest gap between winning championships. There was a 12 year gap for Terry Labonte.

[@MisterMonsieur]

*Being granted an injunction is hardly a "HUUUUUUUUUGE" win. All it means is that the court feels they have a case worth deliberating.*

[@RussellColeman-p2w]

Stewart left partly for the reasons NASCAR is being sued over right now. Stewart was sick of the way the teams especially Ford teams get treated. JGR got a taste of that at Martinsville in the last playoffs.

[@coasty24]

The teams winning this absolutely spices things up, so from a talking stance this is great. Oh yeah, it's also great from an overall stance. I think it's an absolute great thing that 23XI and FRM are warriors of some sort. I know that's cliche but it's great for the sport and excited to see how it goes.

[@stonecoldracing6]

Brad Keselowski is a true threat in the league. Penske might not be the best ford team next year based off of what I’ve seen happen. Roush is BACK

[@aaronlewellen5]

Wow Huge Win!

[@GarySnail-o3j]

There is almost no overlap between the merits of the injunction and the logic behind the actual court case. But the leverage for an out of court settlement has just swung massively.

[@acedelta12]

I always had cautious optimism for HFT. I figured they’d be around the 20th to 25th all next year, but this tells me they’ll be more competitive than that.

[@kendallsmith7594]

Super happy the teams got this. NASCAR needs some changes in the business model BADLY

[@tomchrisfield7348]

It sounds good for 23X1 ,but it only takes one judge to overrule this decision and throw it out. Legal issues for people with money have proven it's never over.

[@markjohnson62]

Hope them yotas ready for pre & post race inspection cause 2025 just got a whole lot harder

[@StanTheManGaming]

This is a good day for NASCAR and motorsports as a whole

[@clintburns7470]

It seems to hold up. I figured on earlier videos that if the teams can win this battle against NASCAR, that the body of NASCAR will probably settle outside of court to ensure that they don't reach the discovery stage. This win was something that the teams absolutely needed

[@billymccarthy973]

Retzkaff would have a much better ride next year if it wasn’t for Daytona. That put his career on another trajectory

[@johnnyfields2682]

23XI and Front Row will not be able to do enough to be legal this upcoming season. NASCAR will search till they find something

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

Look at how much of an impact Brad has made to RFK vs JJ to LMC and the results couldn't be more opposite! You would think JJ would see more success since he's a 7x Cup champion... But, i thinks it all boils down to is one was a great driver and one is good at more than just driving!

[@bighand1530]

That is an interesting point.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Jimmie Johnson had all those years around Jeff Gordon learned nothing about business...great driver but a terrible businessman...meanwhile Jeff Gordon learned from Mr H.

[@FallenAngelAltair]

What I don't get is why teams had to continue paying for charters and instead of giving the established teams a "permanent charter" (HMS, JGR, Penske) their Permanent charter (Don't have to pay for it for keeping it except to sell) while the other teams had the original plan to get charter and lease them (most of these teams are not quite long running ex. HMS, JGR, and Penske) the big three been there for 10-30+ years

[@iceeblueburst03]

Nice diecast showcase of Keselowski's Castrol Edge scheme.

[@zachbishop5421]

There was a pretty small chance they didnt get this injunction especially after nascar came out and tried to pull those strong arm tactics to kick them out of the sport when they get sued for anti competitive practices 😂

[@barrettcarpenter1745]

Im SHOCKED they are allowed to run under the 2025 Charter Agreement terms. I always assumed they would get an extension of the preexisting agreement, which NASCAR would be in favor of because a) thats an agreement the teams actually signed, and b) the teams would still get the lower share of the Revenue. Was never sure of the legality of all that but thats what I assumed would happen

[@pauldaniel4095]

Sweet new addition to your dicast i would love to have that car lets go Brad

[@wayfastxr]

It's a big Deal really ....Thanks Eric !

[@tyroilsmoochiewallace9852]

The financial records will never be seen in public

[@Eagleracer38x]

17 regular season winners next year! Calling it now... lol.

[@gasgassteve]

I think Custer will contend for the 16th playoff spot , if he doesn't sneak a win in . He has learned how to race more aggressive but in control the last year especially in Xfinity . I think thats going to transfer . Watch for him to sneak in around the 16th area

[@bighand1530]

Cole Custer was in a good position of winning two championships in a row at the Xfinity series. And he also won a race in the Cup Series.

[@zh2motorsports867]

Fantastic now when is horse going to bring back the 70 as like a part-time team again

[@julian-fr5eh]

hopefully other teams see this as a wakeup call to negotiate harder in future deals

[@hengineer]

I wonder if there will be ramifications in other "single owned sports leagues" in the US. In a way this is sorta NASCAR's fault, when they switched to the Charter system, the France family gave up some of the power, even if they didn't realize it yet. When it was the prior system, the teams didn't have any "ownership stakes" in the system, not so anymore.

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

GREAT NEWS for 23XI! That is going to be a massive deal for potentially other teams in the future as this sets a precedent for future teams looking for relief from NASCAR's absurd rules. Glad 23XI will be in next years season.

[@GrizzlyJ.Ranger]

I definitely think that Hass will be better than they were last year.

[@Rog1157]

Inb4 the predictable NASCAR crashout. They're going to make it hard as hell on Denny this upcoming season. I hope I'm wrong, but Idk if they can help themselves.

[@Astronomicle]

This had to be granted to avoid the potential for another lawsuit from SHR for them getting screwed in all this. I still think they lose this lawsuit in the long run but this is a positive for the fans.

[@SmiiSyco]

Hey at least he has a Brad Kellen car in his collection now. Took a while for my favorite driver to get into his 1 24 scale. Collection.😂

[@garyjackson3531]

The entire charter thing is ridiculous beyond words. The NHRA isn't perfect, but it doesn't shoot itself in the foot by creating "charters." You race in the NHRA you have to perform. No one is guaranteed a spot in the field. Ever.

[@BowkerAero]

Brad brings a lot of space age manufacturing to the table too.

[@justinfussell9150]

MJ was right, the first one thru the wall gets bloody. There is a lot of people behind him and Hamlin who couldn’t afford to get bloody. Love that the judge landed where they did

[@joshuathecat-human1247]

OMG the turning point just happened NASCAR just lost the case. That shocking. My word. 😮.

[@bighand1530]

John 3:16-21.

[@justpzj]

"warning, lots of legal speak" LMAOOOO

[@easyenetwork2023]

How is RFK able to afford 4 charters when they can barely make it with 2?

[@edwinmcgowan2623]

0:43 judge Kenneth Bell, same last name as Christopher Bell, who’s teammates with Denny Hamlin! Coincidence I think NOT!

[@WhiskeyDale]

I wonder how many times 23XI and FRM are going to feal the rath of the NASCAR officials next season ???? i.e..... DQ's , penalties , fines....etc

[@marcusvillarreal]

First Hi Eric Estepp I never miss a single episode 😊❤

[@hagerdhotrodz]

4:18 I honestly want to see this! 🍿 🎥

[@crazyarab02]

If Harrison Burton can win a race so can Cole Custer

[@PaperBanjo64]

And he already has

[@curtisharvey5579]

Still waiting on my first Elite Premier, ordered Chase's Hooters win at that level

[@randybass6679]

I think Brad has a very big influence though. I hope RFK does great things. Been a Brad fan since his first win at Talladega and took out Carl Edwards

[@BrianTaylor-v6q]

No one needs the kind of power NASCAR holds over the teams. They're completely GREEDY!! NASCAR is fleecing the teams .

[@AppyRails]

As the great Tom Brady once said: LET’s F***ING GOOOOOO

[@MidLifeCrisisLA]

You one of my top NASCAR news sources. Thanks. Another great show.

[@DC322]

RFK with RWR and Haas Factory Team Fords. I would never imagine that 23XI and FRM would win an injunction in court against Nascar. This is gonna be an interesting 2025.

[@charlespetersonjr1994]

For once we are all happy that Denny got one over on NASCAR, very strange also Rest in Peace to 1965 Daytona 500 Champion Fearless Fred Lorenzon.

[@7viewerlogic670]

Thanks for the info.

[@crazyarab02]

Thank god I was getting worried

[@InsaneCelery238]

had to check my phone for an alarm

[@stephenmoffre3099]

Stupid Charters should have never come into the sport should be like NHRA if you qualify you race

[@ZPaul_]

Christmas is early for 23Xi and FRM. Massive W

[@glonniecanoy3441]

They're gonna enjoy Christmas next week, that's for sure.

[@johnschnellbach986]

Get ready for the NASCAR appeal

[@clintburns7470]

Has anyone found out why the judge change happened? Was the previous one found to be in NASCAR's pocket or something?

[@PaperBanjo64]

I bet he was...I could see it the old judge was crooked

[@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC]

Is RFK still on the campus that was Rousch Racing? Toured that about 20 years ago, prior to the All Star race at Charlotte.