Will Papenhuyzen leave Melbourne? w/ SC Playbook and Hammy

[@jaromeasdale7157]

What's best for society trumps whats best for Ezra and It would be throwing the book at him to deter other players getting on the gear and driving. Why is it the NRLs job to do what's best for Mam. He made his choice. Does he deserve a second chance, sure, but only after suffering the consequences of his choices.

[@nachopants]

The fact he wasn't charged with dangerous driving is absolutely ridiculous. Unlicensed, drug affected, crosses lanes and has a head-on collision resulting in serious injuries to a little girl. If that's not dangerous... what is?

[@baaron7]

For real! Did we seriously just hear kempy say that working half a season with a real job "may sound harsh"? Like, I'm sorry but this is fucking ridiculous and completely biased. He should be fired from the nrl immediately. He knowingly took drugs, knowingly drove a car unlicensed and nearly fucking killed people. Get absolutely fucked if you think he spend half a season working construction and maintaining his contract.

[@50NewEyes]

I get it he stuffed up, remember he’s just a young man and we all made stupid mistakes when we were young plus he’s got money, imagine what you might have gotten up to? the important thing is he learns from it…

[@baaron7]

@50NewEyes I never endangered the lives of others, including children. He's a grown ass adult, how many people have to die in car accidents before we start taking preventative measures? So because he's got money that excuses him. People like you are the reason dickheads like him get behind the wheel of a car on drugs, because they don't fear the consequences.

[@williammason7921]

​@50NewEyes that's a normal stuff up though. head on collision on coke is as dangerous as it gets

[@kieraaanbreeew]

Hate to sound like a Karen but Ezra should be de registered 100%, how many kids coming through the ranks would of been cut for far less, a broken hip for a 4 year old is crazy caused by straight up delinquent behaviour, a line needs to be drawn going forward for future players this surely cannot be accepted.

[@cameronwalker6517]

Unfortunately for Ezra, I feel he has to be made an example of. Over the last few seasons we’ve seen multiple players get caught doing drugs (which isn’t necessarily a rugby league problem, as much as it’s a society problem) but these players wether they like it or not are role models for their communities and Ezra’s actions have undoubtedly changed a young girls life forever, as well as seriously damaging the image of the game and it’s standing in Australian sports landscape. The line in the sand has to be drawn, if you’re caught now, it’s not going to be a 1 or 2 game suspension it’s going to be a lot more serious than that.

[@theflyingcircusmen3726]

Why are you so adamant that the family forgives Ezra? Driving on drugs, without a license, and hit them head on. It’s not like he made a small mistake, he made several big mistakes and should face the consequences

[@Drak-sw8dj]

Kempy looking out for his broncos boy that’s all it is, why should a family forgive ezra? Kempy has a 1 year old child and him even saying that should be embarrassing. Imagine if his kid had a broken hip by a drugged up nrl player.. sure he wouldn’t be reaching out to forgive him. Its bullshit, just another ex footy player looking out for his “boys”

[@jaycee571]

Choices not mistakes, driving under the influence of drugs is a choice, driving unlicensed is a choice, driving uninsured is a choice, not reaching out to the family or the public for an apology was a choice. He made a choice not a mistake

[@okusfayreno8599]

Ezra should be sacked ! What are we talking about Unlicensed on drugs and could have killed a child wtf

[@CatDarkin]

Could've been anyone's child. Beak should put his own son in that position

[@wolfgangvonuce9803]

INSTANT DISMISSAL

[@baaron7]

For real! How the fuck can kempy and the others sit there and say "might sound harsh" when talking about making the bloke work construction for 6 months. Completely biased and frankly the worst take I've heard from these guys ever. He could have killed a child. He needs to be sacked and banned from the nrl

[@gigsy737]

​@@CatDarkin you are so spot on, what he did is literally unforgivable

[@rashneelwalla380]

He can’t handle being called a name but he can take drugs and almost kill someone. Good old nrl

[@Notforjordy]

A better version to Society? Ezra should be in jail, cooked with no license, cmon kempy just imagine if that was your kid The nrl should make an example of this man so it never happens again!

[@Abcdee8]

Ezra wanted an example made of Spencer, and this should be the same applied to Ezra as the nrl enter a drug era problem. He wouldn't have a problem applying the harshest punishment to others, he should expect the same placed onto him.

[@williammason7921]

they suspended ben barba indefinitely for having coke in his system minus a car crash. keeping Ezra in the system is so wrong, an overinflated rugby league star ego is what caused this mess in the first place, he needs lose it all to know he cant get away with it. a year off is hardly a punishment for hurting a child.

[@jayc5736]

If the child was your kid I don’t think 6 months doing (hard yakka)* on the tools and then back in the NRL is sufficient enough as a punishment. The risk should be apart of the incident that gets prosecuted not just the consequence, Mam should be sacked from the Bronx & receive a 90 day jail sentence, then be able to come back to the NRL as long as he goes into a program.

[@vishalsolanky1035]

I’m a life long broncos fan. Sack Mam. Otherwise I’m keen to find a new club.

[@mattgillet6917]

Then find one

[@andrewshaheen9311]

Ezra being on drugs no license having a head on crash putting a woman and young child in hospital he should go to jail. 100% Should be sacked from the NRL

[@jacobpieris5070]

Massive fan of Ezra on the field but he should be sacked. He could’ve killed a kid because of his stupidity, imagine if that was your own child? Disgusting act from Ezra.

[@kikstaggz]

Mam didn’t want to accept Spencer leniu’s apology over words but has been in talks with the family after an incident that could have killed them 😂🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@w0lfm4n43]

You comparing them? Serious? One he was receiving end.. other he is the "attacker" So seeking two different things. But since the victims are in talks, it shows they are the bigger humans cos they are wanting to talk. (For the record, I'm not talking bout the actions of what ezra or Spencer did to need to give an apology.. I'm talking bout the level of CHARACTER to talk/accept apology)

[@kikstaggz]

@@w0lfm4n43 that’s exactly what I’m saying😂 he wasn’t the bigger man karma has come around and let this be a life lesson that we all make mistakes nobody is perfect and most people deserve a second chance.

[@jaycee571]

Exactly

[@lachiehand3736]

Whether right or wrong it looks like the court of public opinion has declared Mam guilty of horrible things, & he is going to get booed every time he walks onto a footy field Adam Goodes style (I know they are completely different scenarios). I honestly reckon the best thing for him is to step himself down for 12 months, train, and go do community work. He can then come back and, although this incident will never leave him, he might be able to move on with his career… If he misses 10 games then comes back, he will still be getting booed 5 years from now, it will never leave him. But if takes the other option I outlined above he may find some small forgiveness from punters and enjoy a decent career… personally I reckon he should have the book thrown at him, but if the nrl and/or broncos don't, he should do it himself for his own good...

[@carlredfern8067]

If Ezra isn't scratched from the game for at least a year it is a complete disgrace. He almost killed a child FFS. I think we all know that If he was bench back rower for the Titans this wouldn't even be getting discussed, he would be gone.

[@redleegudia491]

All the resources too keep him out and he still fell into it...just grt hum out😂

[@N1cklf]

If it was your kid would you be so quick to forgive? It’s just cause he’s an nrl player he should never play again . Lucky he didn’t kill anybody it’s treated like something so small. Do you hear yourself, has a head on collision with drugs in his system and your punishment for him is to work a normal job? Fuck me. Football / sports players get away with murder, anybody else they’d be thrown straight in jail

[@drbog502]

Any everyday person did what ezra did, this panel would label them junkies, lock em up and throw away the key. But pricness ezra gets his hand held and supported through rehab? Help him get the bets life, he is a druggie driving unlicensed!!! Gtfo, send that man to jail.

[@roryobrien5953]

The wallabies have definitely turned a corner its a mixture of the new coaching staff, players gaining experience and the new generation coming through. The up and coming players have been part of successful Australian u20's and schoolboys teams five years ago these same players are starting to do it on the world stage as they hit their mid twenties. Keeping this core of players for the next few years could definitely see them peak hopefully in time for the home world cup. Also they are playing Scotland this weekend at Murrayfield which will be a great marker for much they have turned the corner.

[@alistairlegge7225]

The Dogs don’t need Papi. They now have the forward power, Tracey is developing into a Dylan Edwards style fullback and they have the culture and fitness sorted in all grades. Their window is now open.

[@steveisrandom]

I have a suggestion for the face to music with the cricket. You should get points at the odds value for your run scorer and wicket taker picks. If you pick the unlikely highest run scorer or wicket taken you get more reward.

[@dustinmartin6524]

3 players have been caught driving with cocaine in their system this season alone. Respectfully mate giving them slaps on the wrist, telling them to apologise and do speeches where they pretend they regret it isn’t working. It’s going to keep happening until eventually we don’t see someone injured, we see someone dead It’s not about Mam. It’s about this being an issue at large in the NRL, Coke use is everywhere. Only way to change that is to set a precedent and throw the book at Mam and any other player who posts white bags on their social media pages this off season. The NRL especially lately has completely trivialised cocaine use, I’m not sure how as a parent you could encourage your child to go into rugby league when every few months we are getting these stories

[@jaycee571]

100 percent correct, the NRL has a cocaine issue that they keep trying to downplay saying it's a societal problem. If 4 players in one year got caught how many aren't getting caught. Lack of leadership by the NRL letting the clubs handle issues that affect the game If someone is killed by an NRL player under the influence of drugs the NRL will have blood on their hands for not identifying and solving the problem.

[@ashp1811]

A 4 year old with a fractured hip is essentially signed up for a lifetime of chronic pain, which can lead to a lot of mental health issues. The best thing for Ezra's development is to understand that his actions have consequences. He needs to be humbled. His contact has to be torn up, and he has to be deregistered for a year. He can do all the community service and manual labour then, if he manages to avoid jail time. But yes, if he does all that, he should be allowed to return to the game

[@benben-ue7rn]

This is rubbish, when I was 4 I was kick through a fence by a horse fracturing my hip ball and socket also broke my pelvis. Had to wear metal braces for months but I didn't "essentially signed up for a lifetime of chronic pain", in fact I have none to do with that leg or hit. This was 30 years ago im sure medicine has come a long way since then. The hyperbole is crazy

[@bobsonbrand]

Interesting about the Raiders, they're similar to the Titans in regards to talent at a specific position. Owen Pattie (guru is very high on), Shaun Packer has played flegg (QLD U19), Xavier Cacciotti is Australian schoolboy who I saw score 4 in a Andrew Johns Cup Final also SG Ball players player. Mitch Brophy developing as well. So they're hoping any one of those 4 can be the guy ahead of Levi, Starling these sorts of guys.

[@elliottdavis8782]

For Beaks Bag - the Papy chat around missed Origin opportunity gave me this idea: “Who is/are some of the unluckiest players (in NRL era) to miss their shot at Origin starts due to injury or status quo surrounding other inform players?” Mine would be either Ryan Hinchcliffe or John Sutton.

[@ndmarshmello9804]

Beaks Bag - Should lower finishing clubs get a salary cap increase? For example, if they finish in the bottom 4 for a few years consecutive (ps. tigers).

[@potatoman676]

Can't believe no one said 05 grand final as it has one of the most iconic grand final moments of all time with benjis flick pass

[@andrewpelechaty7634]

I missed that grand final, but THAT flick pass was iconic! I'd choose 2008: I'm not a fan of either club, but I missed watching that grand final live: even though it was hammering, the atmosphere, Manly getting revenge for 2007, and Beaver's fairytale finish would have been amazing.

[@steveisrandom]

I agree to a point on the "we knew what we were getting" with regards to the Tyson v Paul fight but the one bit I was a bit surprised with was how much Paul just ran away to wear him out so he could control the rest of the fight. Very little respect to be gained from fighting a 58 year old but running away for 2 rounds instead of standing to fight made sure he didn't gain any.

[@RossMorris1]

Question for next week. Is time to bring back names on jerseys?

[@nickandtiataylor1963]

Lets add some new boots to the collection ?🙌🏽

[@spassadazza]

Massive Bronx Fan. Fan of Ezra. Should be sacked. We all know the details of the incident. That family has to now see him still play on tv.

[@paulbarnes9120]

For Beaks Bag: with the recent discussion on the kick off and head highs, do you think part of the problem is that legs tackles aren’t rewarded as a dominant tackle? For me, the point of defensive is to shut down the play as quick as possible and a legs tackle does that but with the referees current interpretation the defender needs to roll away straight away. I understand players can still get concussed with legs tackles

[@Izzy-oo5rm]

None of this lets look after the player bs. Make an example out of Ezra so ti deters players from doing it in the future.

[@Tonymarshall11]

Why did they have to find forgiveness to Ezra Mam? They need to heal but if they don’t want anything to do with him it’s their right cause he pounded Charlie and then drove without a license, if they want him to get fucked then no one can tell them otherwise

[@ewokssfan1642]

Ezea Shoud Not Be Playing in 2025. Don't Sack him. Ezra Should have Charges laid against him. This Shouldnt be an NRL issue It should be a police issue. After all this is done it's up to the Broncos.

[@paulbarnes9120]

For Beaks Bag: Do you think the Knights last season were one of the few teams that you could argue that they were poorly coached in 2024? The handling of the halves and the spine set up was poor and effected the team

[@brendanparke5191]

Beaks Bag Question: Theres always talk on the blues origin team of Cleary or Moses. Whats your thoughts on Cleary and Moses? Queensland did it with Cronk and Thurston and Cleary played left side for a bit in the 2023 gf and scored the match winning try.

[@Stamanator]

its funny, dragons v dogs has been announced for round 1. i'm calling it right now. ben hunt signs for dogs. what a great game it will be if he does.

[@gigsy737]

Wallabies have definitely turned a corner, i look at the current crop of players out there and its the first time in a while ive actually been excited to watch them play, its promising when you tie the group of players with a coach that seems serious and just as interested as the fans are

[@LorenzoPredicts]

Good take Kempy Bo said he’s the most skilled wrestler to ever enter the UFC but doesn’t shoot on Craig because the guy has some good subs in his career. Long road ahead if that’s his mindset also did not think I’d be hearing jones ducking aspinall on here you’re a man of culture.

[@LiquidAcid1]

Good poddy lads!

[@Drak-sw8dj]

Really turned me off Bloke, in particular Kempy continuing saying how we should be thinking about the victims involved… yet saying they should be forgiving ezra, after nearly killing them whilst he’s drugged up driving with no licence. What really should happen is de register him from the NRL, if Todd carney gets black listed after a incident in a toilet which is no where near harmful then Ezra needs to go

[@CatDarkin]

@@Drak-sw8dj Fr defending Ezra Mam will kill this brand

[@LeeWhite-yp1dn]

Hey guys love to hear your thoughts on if the PNG team comes in if they played blocks in PNG so they didn’t have to live there all year so for example. First 6 or 7 rounds in PNG the a large block in Australia maybe based out of cairns for away games and maybe a home game in cairns the a block of games to finish the season in PNG. I would also love to see the NRL send some games there over the next two years to make sure it can work before jumping in and committing to a PNG team…

[@Loki_Loki01]

I think the tigers 'leaking' issue with this fitness stuff is good PR too imo as a tigers fan so im fine with it from that angle. Fitness at the tigers has been a problem for a long time and last season it basically got to a boiling point with how bad our fitness was. So this is a way to show standards are changing along with the whole club changing in recent times and shows fans that we are actually taking fitness seriously finally and I'm sure all tigers fans are happy with this 'leak' 🤷‍♂️ could of easily been deliberately leaked to show the positive change in the club

[@DarkMagician-105]

Bo nickel take i thought the same. Felt it was closer than what the score cards had

[@joshclarke4190]

Who is the one under rated player at each club they can’t afford to lose for me Penrith losing JFH is a huge loss for them

[@Maximus1365]

I couldn’t give two hoots if Ezra just got caught driving under the influence and unlicensed. But the fact he has injured people of the public whilst do so, the nrl need to get rid of him! This will tarnish the image of rugby league something chronic!

[@iksnaustralia6262]

Man you guys keep saying Roosters moved on May to make room for Hunt 😂😂😂 Boys do I need to seriously rattle off the long list of guys moving on from this year they've already got at least 2 million in the cap. Please explain how May on relatively low money has any impact on somehow scrapping around to find money for Hunt stop it 😂😂😂

[@50NewEyes]

Need an Australasian vs Europe…..???

[@gigsy737]

Papenhuyzen hasnt played over 17 games in over 5 years, if he wants the million he can go get it, he is not worth that just because hes currently fit, 5 year sample size is not just luck

[@benjaminsmith-robson3460]

Seriously if Ezra isnt sacked its a joke. What if that was your child. He can work himself but he can do that without a job. Many jobs wouldn't except that. If he wasn't a top 5 bronx player this would be delt with way definitely

[@JustASoul738]

Bo Nickal is not a better wrestler than islam, merab etc. American college wrestling has nothing on dagestan and eastern european wrestling and grappling

[@sallymay24]

I think paps will leave unfortunately

[@bobachmar3523]

At dragons issue with Hunt is Kyle is a daddies boy,,,,roosters got rid of Kyle cause the roosters players couldn’t connect,,,,,,sure Ben and Kyle kept clashing allegedly

[@jaromeasdale7157]

@bobachmar3523 Hunt said he wanted to leave to go to Brisbane, if he signs with a Sydney team does that not mean he basically lied to break contract? Can't blame anyone but Hunt himself, quit on his team.

[@bobachmar3523]

@ true guess we never know,,,guess he wanted to use any excuse to break contract,,,,

[@JustASoul738]

I think your idea is a good one regarding Ezra's punishment but let's be real. He will serve 8-10 weeks and then be straight back into the side

[@Drak-sw8dj]

8-10 weeks is a piss take of a punishment

[@JustASoul738]

@ i know. but that's what he'll get

[@brogangordon4327]

Kempy = 🐐

[@Drak-sw8dj]

L take

[@xxViiBeZ]

Absolute JOKE

[@petes6545]

BEAKS BAG hey Beak Could we please get a weekly top 10 from you, first week could be top ten beaks in the nrl past and current Cheers lads love your work and your merchandise! Especially the origin blue shirts 👌.. I bought 3 of them

[@Loki_Loki01]

The only reason Mam isn't sacked by Broncos is probably because of his potential as a footy player and also lack of quality depth in the halves, especially with Reynolds at the end of his career too. A lesser player or less important 100% gets sacked, simple as that and arguably probably still should of been. Look at Addo-Carr too getting sacked and Mam's incident was more serious than that. Completely unacceptable what Mam did just in society. If that was on the news too, just some random rich kid nobody knew, driving without a license and drugged up, who did what Mam did, then of course everyone would be outraged at him 🤷‍♂️ There's no excuse for that behaviour and needs the book thrown at him and to deter others for doing similar. Although it should be obvious to not break multiple laws and putting other people at risk too by your decsions 🤷‍♂️ Never ceases to amaze me how dumb people can be though, especially athletes. You spend probably your whole life getting to where Mam is as a footy player and then decide to do dumb stuff like this to jeopardise it all 🤦‍♂️

[@redux2104]

8 to12 weeks for Ezra is about right

[@Tristan.E]

first

[@Damanofdahour]

In Australia rugby union is small or not watched. But Around the world like the six nations, Europe, Africa, America north and south, Asia, Oceania pretty much the world except png and a small part of north of England. League does not exist!!! Rugby union is a million times more popular than league. That's why world rugby doesn't care if the wallabies are good or not. Last week Georgia gave NZ A a good match. NZ A are pretty much next up All Blacks. Imagine in league countries like Argentina, Ireland or South Africa or France beating the kangaroos??? Yeah not in another 500 years. But in rugby union, them teams are competitive AF!!!