Will Scotland leave the UK?

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[@trapnl1241]

Its pronounced Edinbruh

[@deusexaethera]

@@trapnl1241 : LOL I came here to say the exact same thing. To be fair, he's Azerbaijani, and probably doesn't need to pronounce Scottish names very often.

[@trapnl1241]

@@deusexaethera very well

[@joshuachalvarro1182]

@@deusexaethera he is? I thought he was Turkish.

[@deusexaethera]

@@joshuachalvarro1182 : Hmm. I _thought_ he's Azerbaijani and CaspianReport is based out of Baku, but maybe I'm wrong. Either way he likely doesn't have to deal with Scottish names very often.

[@LordofKings_]

something that may have been significant to mention is that before the Acts of Union, it was decreed that the Scottish dynasty would rule England and Scotland, not the English one. This was seen as a victory over England and a way to placate the masses that it was Scotland ruling over England instead of the opposite.

[@lochring]

Then Scotland should decolonize Egland and give her independence.

[@grahamleiper1538]

That pretty much ended in 1688 (19 years before the Union) with the coup d'etat that gets called the glorious revolution. Scottish king inherited English throne 1603. Gunpowder plot to kill him in 1605 wasn't successful but the English parliamentarians killed his son in 1649. Does seem like the 1603 Union of Crowns wasn't that great a success for the Stuarts. Jacobite succession led to two rebellions within 40 years of Union of Parliaments in 1707.

[@adamforbes8334]

Yes he failed to mention many things including the succession of the Scottish King to rule over England, Wales n Ireland.

[@wiktorjachyra1869]

I mean now its neither.....its basically just german, they only reside in England more since its the main governing body location of the u.k

[@correctionguy7632]

@@wiktorjachyra1869 Queen Elizabeth II is at least equally as british as german if not more genetically speaking.

[@Mr_M_History]

It seems to be contextual. Enough has happened with the Tories since 2014 that many Scots I know are now on board with leaving when they weren't before

[@hansfromcongo6322]

Would they actually get one though? As it was a ‘once in a generation’ vote. Also Scotland would be out side of the Union and the European Union as well, given Spain’s precarious position.

[@KentRoads]

Hahahahahahahaah

[@PunishedRalph]

The polling in 2014 had an even split, the result of the referendum was 45-55. The polling today is No ahead by about 2-4 points. The Scots you know are pretty irrlevant, when the statistics are laid bare for all to see.

[@davidb8539]

I think there’s a bit of both ways. The voting age has been reduced too, which has somehow slipped under everyone’s radar. Someone can be too immature to be trusted with alcohol but also mature enough for National decision making, I think that’s a scandal that’s somehow passed us by

[@alex29443]

That may be true to an extent, a lot of tory hate up north (beyond what is rational sometimes, I would say) but the argument for Scexit economically has gone from really bad to essentially suicidal. We have 2/3rds of out trade with the rest of the UK, and you want to erect land borders across that? In exchange for, maybe, one day, getting into the EU, which Scotland would be an even smaller voice in that it is as part of the UK. You know the EU has government spending and deficit conditions for membership right? You know Scotland already fails almost all of them as it stands, that's before it goes through the turmoil of having to set up its own currency. It would be an absolute bloodbath for the Scottish economy and terrible for the UK as a whole, there is a reason the Russian government supports the SNP.

[@bocbinsgames6745]

Edinbruh Also it would be helpful to include that the Act of Union was when a Scottish King was on the English throne, i.e. both countries were ruled by the same monarch

[@miloszbaczak3690]

everyone from outside scotland pronounces it wrong

[@rawrology]

The Act of Union took place when Anne, Queen of England and separately Queen of Scotland was sitting on both thrones when the Act(s) of Union dissolved those Kingdoms and created the Kingdom of Great Britain.

[@RizalBoon]

Still wondering why English doesn't bother fixing the spelling if it wasn't pronounced that way.

[@jds1275]

@@RizalBoon wouldn't it be nice if all the Anglo countries decided to have a group simplify spelling to make it phonetic. It definitely would be easier for foreign speakers to learn. No silent letters, no exceptions, and add a few letters to make sure every sound is represented correctly. Bring back the Þ (thorn).

[@LordOfLight]

@@RizalBoon Because it's a SCOTTISH town.

[@Oldmanplum]

An important part missed in the timeline of this video was the Union of the Crowns in 1606 where the Scottish King James VI inherited the throne of England (and thus Ireland too) uniting the 3 kingdoms in a personal union. This brought an end to the Anglo-Scottish rivarvly and the Auld Alliance. It is pretty important context for the Acts of Union 1707 since both countries had already been closely aligned for a 100 years at that point

[@davocc2405]

It alarms me quite how rarely this is pointed out - the Scottish King overtook the English Throne but this isn't sold this way by the separatists.

[@IILiamIIUKII]

This brought an end to the Anglo Scottish rivalry ???? Hardly

[@md244-w6v]

@@IILiamIIUKII I guess in a way it did, but of course the scots and the english still did not get along

[@Oldmanplum]

@@IILiamIIUKII Rivavly in the sense of actively going to war with each other. Geopolitics not feelings

[@vanyadolly]

@@davocc2405 The fact that the Scottish King technically took over the union doesn't change the fact that the UK is run from Westminster while the other kingdoms have very little sayn. Scotland has also historically been a liberal country versus England which is conservative. Scotland hasn't voted conservative for 50 years.

[@mitonaarea5856]

I can't believe this video completely ignored the Stuart dynasty. A crucial moment for the British isles and one of the reasons the Union was formed. Since both nations had the same monarch it made sense for the Scots to join a union with England.

[@jamielonsdale3018]

The irony is that Scotland spent decades fighting brutal wars to avoid unification, but as soon as a Scottish King got onto the English throne suddenly its the Scots themselves forming the same damn Union they fought to prevent...

[@mitonaarea5856]

@@jamielonsdale3018 Well diffrent times, diffrent circumstances

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@jamielonsdale3018 Ordinary Scots weren't happy with it, hell plenty of Englishmen were unhappy about it too. It was the Scottish nobility that united the two, the sentiment between the peoples didn't flip one bit.

[@Oldmanplum]

@@jamielonsdale3018 Very different circumstances. Even after the establishment of the Union Scotland retained its unique national symbols, traditions, and legal system. All things that would not have happened had we been conquered

[@niconilo97]

@@abcxyz2927 haha xD

[@radwald189]

Quick note though, England doesn't ridicule Scotland. Westminster ridicules Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland AND England.

[@ScottishRoss27]

Englands PM bojo the clowns anti scottish poem Englands PM had published, which was endorsed by the right wing English Nationalists in 2019 UK election there.

[@Barrheedyin]

I like to believe that like me, most of my fellow countrymen know that. 😊

[@gavinathling]

@@ScottishRoss27 Nope. England, is the only constituent country without an assembly to have a voice. Nothing can be laid at the feet of the English until or unless they get their own parliament. At the moment, we have the FPTP *British* parliament only, and that doesn't speak for the English any more than it speaks for the Scottish. If it wasn't FPTP, or if there was a separate English First Minister based solely on English votes, you could have a point, but we don't.

[@spoonkus5893]

Well said mate, it’s important to understand that clown governments don’t always represent the people, the vast majority of English are indifferent since independence really doesn’t effect them

[@thokim84]

Westminster is filled with people elected by England.

[@juliantheapostate8295]

As a Scot, I'd rather just have my bins emptied, thanks

[@Helvetica247]

Totally. My bins also runneth over here north of the Antonine wall.

[@dirkscott5410]

Stop voting Labour then 😂

[@user-qb7ms6vs7s]

Last time I was in Edinburgh the bins seem to be full everywhere

[@hardwoodgems]

1st world problems.

[@PunishedRalph]

@@dirkscott5410 SNP run the country, reduce council spending, services become shit... But it's Labours fault. You on the gear pal?

[@RS-xf8mp]

Scotland will never leave. They are bankrupt, with the worst deficit in Europe. Even worse than Greece. Only the UK giving it tens of billions of subsidies keeps it afloat. It has a 15% deficit. Also look at Scottish exports, which make up a large part of its economy, 75% go to the UK, and a tiny amount to the EU. If a trade barrier went up or if English people stopped buying Scottish goods, which they would if it left, Scotland would be in massive trouble. Also a lot of Scottish jobs are totally reliant on the UK and govt jobs or military shipbuilding. The number of jobs and companies that would leave would wreck Scotland. Especially all its finance and tech companies who have said they would have to move to England. Plus there is no mention of the UK joing the CPTPP trade bloc and India free trade deal soon. These are game changers for Scottish whisky and food exports, where there is a 150% tariff in India on whisky. They would lose this if they left, even if they joined the EU. Plus any new Scottish currency would have to be created. They could not use the pound, and investors would short it immediately wrecking it because of all these issues. There is no way out of that. Plus they would have to fund Scottish pensions not the UK and take on around 200 billion in UK debt. They simply cannot afford it and would go bankrupt. Plus this is ignoring the 1.5 million or so Scots living in the rest of the UK who want the Union. They would have to vote in any second vote. The Snp have a terrible record in office and will eventually lose power, esp when Sturgeon leaves. This video doesn't mention any of these critical points. Also will the EU even exist in 5 to 10 years? It is about to go through its biggest debt crisis, and have anti EU politicians in France soon, and a dying Germany who can't afford to keep paying for the poor members. Plus even if it does exist I doubt they would anger the UK by admitting Scotland. The EU countries that depend on UK defence and intelligence won't allow it, and neither will Spain who doesn't want Catalonia to leave.

[@tuskular]

Exactly, its unfortunate that we have a fairly authoritarian goverment in power who just wont take no for an answer, what we need is more autonomy and an actual ecnomist or something in power rather than socialists to fix our economy, because they just keep spending what we cant afford. Plus weve also lost we used to be good at, we are no longer no.1 for ship building, we no longer have some of the best engineers, economists and mathemeticians, our education system is all we really have of what remains, and even it could be doing so much better, if we just spent our money in a wise manner.

[@franciscruickshank8794]

rs rubbish!the taxes collected in scotland are ,,only a part are returned and do we get subsidised by OUR oil/gas revenue? all our exports go thru englandwhy? thacher! SAOR ALBA

[@RS-xf8mp]

@@franciscruickshank8794 Even with North Sea oil the Scottish deficit is around 15% and it is running out unfortunately. These are just economic arguments. The biggest arguments are that we are countrymen who care about one another and will always help and defend one another. I have lots of Scottish friends who are my tribe. Please dont listen to Sturgeon who wants to spread hate, darkness and division, and wants us to hate one another rather than care about each other. She is only doing it because she wants full power and control of Scotland. We must be better than these politicians who are trying to manipulate us. I am happy for England to help Scotland when it needs help because you will help us when we need it. We will always be there for each other as people and countrymen. I am happy to pay more or sacrifice things if that would help my Scottish countrymen because they will do the same for us. We will always be there for you no matter what.

[@geroutathat]

Thats your plan for scotland, stay in the UK to sell whisky to India? how did selling cars to india work out for jaguar, landrover? Creating a new currency isnt hard, Ireland just created the "punt" when they left, made it equal to the pound, bing bang bosh. You have some legitimate concerns, but its nothing that Ireland didnt face, even now with UK economy struggling Ireland is doing fine. Sure there are concerns about how well the EU will survive, or last, but people have been saying that forever. Spain or the EU wont get involved in what scotland does, they wont even promise scotland can join the EU, they are treating Scotland with respect to make its own choices. Something England should have done. The reality of this is, you want scotland to accept a raw deal, and accept subsidies, and just shut up, because leaving means that if it doesnt work out, they get a raw deal... true, but it would be a raw deal of their own making, not one thrust upon them, and it could even turn out a good deal.

[@ProudRegressive]

Its fascinating that a country that fought so fiercely to preserve its independence would end up willingly joining the country it fought independence from, many decades after its monarch became monarch of that country (England). Its also fascinating that the UK is a country consisting of countries but is also a unitary state.

[@GCarty80]

Scotland wasn't militarily conquered but it was ultimately defeated financially, when its attempt to establish an overseas colony of its own (the Darien scheme) ended in disaster.

[@josephturner4047]

Yeah. It's complicated.

[@thomasdracup8403]

@@GCarty80 there was also an economic blockade put in place by England in response to Scotland threatening to withdraw troops from the coalition army in the war of Spanish Succession. That was in turn a reaction to the English Parliament unilaterally deciding the next monarch without consulting Scotland. The Alien Act of 1705 is the event that ultimately caused the Union.

[@TheBomb571]

Well, the Scottish king James VI also became the English King James I. Would this not also impact sentiment? Edit: Guess that happened many years earlier. I thought England and Scotland had joined at that point, but it seems it was just a personal union.

[@TheLouisianan]

@@thomasdracup8403 I also understand that the English undermined the Scottish expedition to Panama in every way imaginable to help the expedition fail and hurt Scotland ultimately leading to union.

[@DavidTremblay]

I don't think Canadian Interest on Scotland stems from Alberta but from Québec situation.

[@25Soupy]

Quebec in the past, Alberta more in the present. J.T. has thrown Alberta (and the west in general) under the bus just like his father did in 1981. Ironically, the Federal government has been bribing Quebec to stay in the union with transfer payments from Alberta and Albertan oil. Quebec doesn't want a pipeline going through their province but they sure will take the money from oil at a sum of $6,000 in taxes from each man, woman and child in Alberta. Quebec has been a "have not" province since 1965. You are right, as Alberta is no where close to Quebec numbers on any type of separation. J.J. McCullough made a good video on the subject. I believe it's less than 5% of Albertans would vote to separate.

[@sebastiencarrier328]

@@25Soupy Quite the reaction there James for a simple fact statement from David. It's almost funny how often we hear these misleading facts that tend to picture Alberta and most of western Canada as victims of the current federal system. Unfortunately a lot of people can't see beyond them and paint a broader more accurate picture of canadian economics. Alberta benefited a lot from the federal system in the past and if current economic trends continue, it will benefit a lot from it again in the near future. If you want to look at provinces that really gave a lot to the country throughout most of its history, maybe you should look at the atlantic provinces instead. You can't build a country, especially such a large one, without solidarity.

[@daydodog]

@@25Soupy i don't really see how alberta is going anywhere without BC, and we hate 'berta

[@alukuhito]

@@25Soupy Look at your name. It's Scottish. That's why Canadians are interested in Scotland. So many of them have Scottish roots. Heck, even the first PM of Canada was born in Scotland. Trudeau has treated western Canada as it should be treated. Albertans are just spoiled kids. They want to be heard, despite being a small portion of the country's population, so they make up this stuff like they're being discriminated. More like they're a bunch of babies who grew up with a higher standard of living than they deserved due to oil money. One day oil won't be so valuable and Albertans will have to hang their heads in shame and grow up a little.

[@goofygrandlouis6296]

Well, if Alberta gets its independance.. Then surely Quebec will ask for it, the next week.

[@mycommentwilltriggeryou9810]

It would be weird to see the worlds biggest empire ever just to be reduced to half an island a century later.

[@jamielonsdale3018]

Funny enough, TECHNICALLY the British Empire is still an Empire upon which the sun never sets. France never gave up imperialism either. Their longest land border isnt even in Europe... Weird things you likely wouldnt know without specifically researching it.

[@JohnSmith-sl2qc]

@@jamielonsdale3018 Wow a collection of useless rocks. What an empire

[@charlesk22]

Its God's justice being met.

[@km7000]

They still own islands in the Caribbean and have the commonwealth.

[@jordi6795]

There's a map that shows the variation of population of Britain between 1821 and 2019, if it's true, it shows that back then England had about 5 times more population than Scotland while nowadays this proportion is shown to be increased to 10 times more population. I understand that could be argued that the core of such empire would be England, isn't it? If true, could it be argued that the current status of the "Empire" wouldn't be much affected by the independence of Scotland, couldn't it? On the other side, isn't the Commonwealth the evolution of such Empire? In other words, the British Empire simply mutated into a Commonwealth of nations/states, then Scotland would simply remain as a part of it but with the form of a new, independent and sovereign state, wouldn't it? So the empire wouldn't be reduced but "increased" with a new country... 🤔

[@volusian95]

It's hard for me to say if Scotland is better off in or out of the UK. All I can say is that I'll miss having Scottish SAS soldiers in games.

[@tatradak]

The Scots will still be there , the English will soon get over it and we will be a happy family but with two parliaments!! You'll be able to skip over the border anytime you like!!

[@solastro5595]

Idk the economy will hurt

[@alis.b.4631]

@@solastro5595 It might hurt more in the long-term if they remain.

[@racheltaylor6578]

@@tatradak There will be a hard border with England if Scotland joins the EU.

[@E6hosting]

Unlikely, we already have a working solution, the Common Travel Area. As for goods something like the NI protocol could be extended, or England could use their sovereignty to join the European Customs Union and save their economy.

[@djalland1]

It's probably worth mentioning that one of the main arguments made by the official unionist campaign during the 2014 independence referendum was that independence jeopardised Scotland's EU membership, whereas the Union guaranteed it. The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, announced the Brexit referendum as a Tory policy within weeks of the vote, and the rest is history.

[@sergioserobcam]

You are pointing out what in my opinion is the key: remainers at Scottish independence referendum were scaremongering about leaving the EU... Now what??

[@paul1979uk2000]

@@sergioserobcam Actually, Scotland wanted to leave the UK union with the intention of rejoining the EU, basically, they wanted away from the UK, not the EU and yes, like Darren said, the UK being part of the EU was a big part of the 2014 vote that kept Scotland in the UK, clearly a lot has changed since then.

[@daveharrison84]

David Cameron was against Brexit. He allowed the Scottish independence referendum because he expected it to fail. He allowed the Brexit referendum because he expected that to fail too.

[@B3RyL]

@@paul1979uk2000 The UK government at the time pressured the EU members to make it clear there would be significant hurdles to Scotland joining the EU, because back then the UK still had a major say in the EU policy. Now the situation is completely different. I'm sure if anyone asked any member state whether they would accept Scotland being fast-tracked into the EU, not a single one would say 'no'. If I was Sturgeon, I'd be flying all over the EU gathering support for fast-tracking Scotland into the EU. If they can fast-track Ukraine's associate status, they can certainly fast-track a former member's re-accession.

[@rogink]

@@B3RyL It's good to know that you are 'sure' no other member state would be worried about Scottish independence. But the reality is that Madrid is paranoid about Catalonia and Basques declaring independence from Spain. France would have similar worries about Corsica.

[@the_grand_tourer]

So pleased to see you cover this. Always respected your geo-political reporting, never expected Scottish independence to show up on your radar. Always good to get an outside view, you'll not find anywhere on the BBC that clearly explains the historical trajectory of Scotland's sovereignty. I grew up in Berwick on Tweed, the town changed hands between England and Scotland thirteen times, it's now English (yet it's football team plays in Scotland), I am very aware of the struggle between the two nations. THANKS ! Note - not Edinburg, but Edinbur or Edinbur~u.

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

Edin-bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Caitlin7142]

Bro what

[@charlestaylor3027]

@Dave? Better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to speak out and confirm it.

[@TheErmerm999]

As berwickshire raised myself whats your thoughts on campaigning for berwick to join, Scotland under devloution, free prescriptions, free university, lower council tax, seat at Holyrood,

[@limitlessLtd]

@Dave? its literally the capitol of Scotland, what are you talking about?

[@deklore]

I think the biggest misconception this video has is confusing Scotland with the SNP. Liz Truss said it was best to ignore Nicola Sturgeon, not Scotland. Being Scottish liging in Scotland, the vast majority of people i speak to dislike the SNP and think they are completely incompentent. Wasting public funds, a decline in education standards, a worsening of the NHS and throttling funding to Local Councils to a point where they are functioning on a knife edge. As a proud Scot I think its disgusting the way SNP has governed Scotland in the last 15 years. They have ran this country into the ground and we are currently in no position to become independant. Just because the SNP are detestable, please do not equate them with the people of Scotland.

[@SSJfraz]

The vast majority of people you speak to exist in your own little bubble and are not representative of the Scottish population as a whole.

[@Voidwurm1701]

@@SSJfraz that goes for all of us

[@owl5013]

@Deklore Nice to see and hear the opinions of a logical Scott 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

[@fsxpilot02]

I think the SNP has governed well, I've seen an NHS protected from privatisation, free university to make us the leading European country on tertiary education. I've seen our child poverty levels decline to the lowest in the islands. Would rather those idiots in the south run our entire affairs?

[@d544]

@@SSJfraz No it's literally a fact that most people don't like the SNP...Which is why they're running a coalition with the green party as they are not big enough to be a majority party on their own.

[@perberger809]

The map showing the EU should have included the EEA as well, to show the complete size of the European economy.

[@falsevacuum4667]

Excellent point. The single market is more than the EU and it's absolutely absurd that the UK won't even consider the so-called "Norway" model.

[@crowbar9566]

Why? 95% of Scotland's trade is with the rest of the UK. The EU is not relevant.

[@falsevacuum4667]

@@crowbar9566 Nope. Scotland exports about 60% to the rest of the UK, 22% to the EU single market, and 18% abroad.

[@woodlandcreature8857]

@@falsevacuum4667 a lot of Brexit voters wanted the Norway model, but the autocratic EU wouldn't even consider it

[@AndrewStamelakis]

@@woodlandcreature8857 that would be seen as weakness by the EU, no sane EU citizen would want that, you made your bed, time to sleep on it...

[@huwenkai440]

Fun fact: Chinese have hoped Scotland to win independence, due to UK backing of Hong Kong protests in 2019-21. Yet Chinese are not sure if Scotland winning independence can bring any benefit for Beijing, for its alignment with an increasingly hostile Europe can be. Plus, don't forget I don't add "government". Because Beijing had no position on it officially.

[@ngolong4070]

I dont see why Scotland wouldn't also support a fellow region seeking autonomy like Hongkong

[@Kriegtime101]

They just hate the government in London and want to see it fail.

[@jonathans8]

help encourage scotland to become a US state, then.

[@lancetheking7524]

@@jonathans8 how about I encourage the U.S. to be a competent global power

[@DeepFriedHaggis741]

@@jonathans8 As a Scot, I'd rather kiss the boots of every Englishman

[@vicarious7858]

Can England section off Westminster like Rome and the Vatican? I think that would solve a lot of problems for the UK.

[@13strange67]

Love to get rid of whinging Nothern tossers !

[@raulduke6953]

Be easier to wall of Scotland frankly and cheaper for the uk

[@michaelbalfour3170]

@@raulduke6953 If you want rid of scots so bad, why not just give them a referendum? What are the English scared of?

[@dannyarcher6370]

I assume you haven't heard of the City of London.

[@alwayslearning7672]

City of London Corporation!! it's been around 1000+ yrs.Has its own laws, mayors, everything.

[@heisenstein6392]

I normally love your content, but I'm astonished, to say the least, that you didn't mention the Scottish personal union over England in 1603 - not even once. Sure, economy may have been a factor, but there was a major precursor to the acts of union a century before. Frankly, I'm quite disappointed as your content is usually of high quality. But this felt more of a shallow, bait type of video. Hope you continue to improve and hold yourself to a higher standard. Cheers for the interesting videos though!

[@michaelleiper]

Maybe it's the fact that it didn't go all that well for the family. After all, the English killed his mother. The English killed his son. English Aristocrats (the "immortal 7") invited William of Orange to invade England and depose his grandson. And then after all that, in 1701, the English Parliament removed the Scottish Stuarts from the line of succession, and changed it to be from the descendants of Sophia of Hanover. So when Queen Anne died, Scotland and England would have had different monarchs again. Except that they then bribed the Scottish Parliament to sign the Act of Union before Queen Anne died.

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

Act of union is context that should've been included, but it's irrelevant to the modern debate. The economy is however a different story.

[@HistoriaGeopolítica]

Is the dead of Queen Elizabeth going to affect national sentiments in Scotland?

[@erikthomsen4768]

Conceivably. A house that stands on one leg won’t stand at all.

[@Mothman156]

Edinburgh is pronounced 'Edinburra.' As a North American my Scottish Grandparents hammered that into my head haha.

[@KNG-pc5qd]

we pronounce it edinbruh.

[@lloyd9500]

@@KNG-pc5qd Yes, this is much more accurate than "Edinburra", or even "Edinboro" which I hear often from North Americans. But I think we can all agree that "Edinburg" is utterly abhorrent

[@KNG-pc5qd]

@@lloyd9500 yes ladd

[@Mothman156]

@@lloyd9500 You guys will love this: I'm from Nova Scotia, and the High School I went too was opened the same year Randy Andy graced the earth, hence it was named "Prince Andrew High School". We have an award given to students for superb academic achievement called "The Duke of Edinburgh award". The recipient upon being awarded this in the year I graduated pronounced Edinburgh "Edenburg". I was sitting next to my Glaswegian grand-dad as they miss-pronounced it and he shifted uncomfortably. Honestly it made my day. Also the school has been renamed in light of the Epstein debacle (debacle is being kind).

[@lloyd9500]

@@Mothman156 Edenburg... christ almighty. Surprised your granddad didn't heckle the feller

[@thokim84]

Scotland leaves the UK and and England takes its place as airstrip one as the five eyes unify into Oceania.

[@TilveranWrites]

Chilling how accurate that could be...

[@randyross5630]

The History of the Scottish People is under Complete Attack by the UK, yeah Scotland should leave, accept all the English and Irish in Scotland Voted No Last Time.

[@idleishde6124]

Airstrip one was Socialist. Or had Socialist roots. Certainly wasn't nationalist given it took the nation's name and history away.

[@zapre2284]

Even though the SNP align perfectly into the Oceana that is the EU

[@SunofYork]

Meanwhile...here in earth 1

[@dw620]

At the end you mention NI joining with Eire to "for Ireland to reclaim independence". Ireland was NEVER a unified, independent country, it was only unified after the Tudors got involved.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

It's almost like most people actually do not understand the history of these islands and like to assume the England is just an oppressive force...

[@gaz9957]

@@rantymcrant-pants9536 It's almost like England has invaded, occupied and oppressed ever part of these islands at one point...

[@chrisreed4065]

@@rantymcrant-pants9536 To be fair England was an oppressive force, as for history India wasn't a unified country until the EEC took it over so that argument is bunk.

[@oliverkelly2908]

Not to mention there was that "minor" event - The Troubles - that only lasted 60 years or so... Where one faction wants to remain in the UK and will fight/terrorise even the British state/government to remain a part of Britain.

[@sueyourself5413]

@@rantymcrant-pants9536 England is just an oppressive force.

[@yiro6577]

free scotland!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿♥️

[@frankwitte1022]

I think two important elements of the 2014 Independence Referendum were missed in the video: [1] The pro-independence vote was polling significantly lower before the 2014 campaign began than it is currently polling. As a result it is thoroughly possible that a renewed campaign will this time pull it over the finish line. [2] In the 2014 "Better Together" campaign against independence the possible loss of EU membership for an independent Scotland played an important role, to the point that campaigners were suggesting that if Scotland wanted to remain in the EU then they had to remain within the UK. It took England just 2 years to rip up that "promise" and leave the EU nonetheless. The strongest and most convincing "Better Together" campaigners in 2014 were Labour and LibDem politicians. For them to join a "Tory-led" campaign against independence in 2023 would be much more politically complicated. Scottish Labour and LibDem however have lost very significant influence. With Liz Truss seemingly certain to become the next British PM, the Scottish Yes campaign in 2023 will have an ideal British PM an opponent. She's not only certain to alienate Scottish voters across the political spectrum, but she is also certain to be confrontational towards Ireland and the EU, and she leads a party of which polling shows consistently that it does consider "losing Scotland" a fair price to pay for a more radical version of Brexit". I think the 2023 referendum is going to be significantly harder to win for a campaign against independence than the 2014 one.

[@alvaromneto]

The 2014 referendum didn't have the disastrous brexit looming over. I suspect the results would be fairly different if not solely because of that.

[@PunishedRalph]

@@alvaromneto They also didn't have a 12% deficit and the oil industry wasn't declining like it currently is.

[@wavell14]

@@alvaromneto disastrous brexit hahaha talk me through that one

[@wavell14]

Literally nobody voted in 2014 with the EU in mind. Like absolutely nobody.

[@markhalliday2397]

@@wavell14 have you asked absolutely everybody that or are you basing that on your own opinion???

[@chimp_monke123]

what really matters in the end is that a military alliance remains in all of europe, you can splinter economically but your armies need to all be on the same page.

[@Weisior]

Unfortunately NATO isnt immortal. As a Pole, Id love it to bee that way, but the times change, circumstances change. However one thing does not change - Russia and its aggressive stance against the rest of Europe.

[@jackbedle569]

As a scot that wants independence, we absolutely want to co-operate with both England and NATO no matter what happens. The went for independence isn’t because of hate and we still know the real enemy is east

[@SunofYork]

@@Weisior Polish sausages are not a priority

[@Weisior]

@@SunofYork Ofcourse they are not a priority, hey are a must at the summertime barbeque!

[@alukuhito]

Why? Who's Europe going to fight together? Russia? Russia just has to lob a few nukes and that will be over.

[@miroslavsapara5274]

The big problem with independence is that you can't blame anyone for your own incompetence. Greetings from Czech Republic.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Czechia is better off than Slovakia.

[@DanksterPaws]

Is this supposed to be a hit to slovakia 👀

[@mr.snaplles5964]

not so subtle dig at slovakia

[@miroslavsapara5274]

@@ronmaximilian6953 Yeah and the most Slovakia know it. Also Czecho-Slovakia wasn´t better than Habsburks empire. In the end, the one who will regret the breakup the most will be Scotland as now do Slovakia.

[@BaxstabberzZ]

@@miroslavsapara5274 Or Scotland will be the next Ireland.

[@K2ELP]

Being Scottish means a lot to me

[@mistycloud4455]

Scott has zero terrorist attack leaving would allow Scotland to create a unified cultured society

[@themk4982]

Based

[@helpimstuck9410]

Proud Scot here, Edinburgh is pronounced: “Edin-buruh” or “Edin-bruh” not “Edinburg”. Great video as always 🤙🏽🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@christophermichaelclarence6003]

Auld Alliance 🇫🇷🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Rejoin the EU 🇪🇺 if your economy is not crumbling down Get your Independance and join the Republic. Make your own Constitutions.

[@piedrablanca1942]

@@christophermichaelclarence6003 háblale en francés

[@dilly7551]

Imagine leaving a union just to join an even worse “union”

[@Wehdeo]

Edin-*bruh*

[@Wehdeo]

Edin-*bruh*

[@mithaelreed1995]

Why would they leave? Ireland, Scotland, and England are stronger United than apart it makes no sense of why want independence.

[@gideonmele1556]

They feel unheard in government and like the other two, overpowered by the English majority

[@declanfeeney7004]

@@gideonmele1556 The same could be said about any nation with regional voting patterns. You think the east Germans don't feel unrepresented by the way the west Germans vote?

[@chrisholland9124]

Still waiting for one indy supporter to actually show proof Scotland would be better off independent? Not speculation not comparing yourself to another country. Actually proof where is the financial data to prove it?

[@MrKeithblair]

The one thing absolutely guaranteed if there is another independence vote, is a dis-united Scotland as the divide appears to be currently in the region of 50/50.

[@EvenWaysMusic]

Very good point

[@riskinhos]

they might as well vote to join EU in the same referendum

[@williamharwood6139]

That divide already exists though 🤷‍♂️ arguably the continuation of the UK is more divisive as everyone in Scotland thinks of themselves as Scottish but only half think of themselves as British.

[@MrKeithblair]

@@williamharwood6139 Exactly the same divide exists in other parts of the UK. People in Wales think of themselves as Welsh first and British second. People in England think of themselves as English first and British second. It's even more pronounced in places like Cornwall where they think of themselves as Cornish first, English second and British third. So, there's nothing unusual about the parochial opinions in Scotland. The only difference in other parts of the UK is that they don't have senior politicians trying to stir up dissent and discord.

[@MorningNapalm]

The split is present, vote or not.

[@alessandrorossi7135]

An interesting thing is a possible cascade effect. If Scotland did it, what of Ireland? What of Québec? All of the separationists regions would have a recent precedent to point to.

[@visitante-pc5zc]

The more separated regions, the better. Big govs are a disaster as much as Church-State was in the past.

[@josephturner4047]

I think NI will join the Republic. I'm not sure Dublin really wants it at the moment. Gonna be very expensive.

[@GCarty80]

@@soulsphere9242 Could Northern Ireland potentially join Scotland in a modern-day resurrection of Dál Riata, especially when most of the Protestant population of Northern Ireland is of Scottish rather than English origin?

[@lasansr]

probably Texas too

[@TheLouisianan]

@@josephturner4047 I think the reason it won't is because Northern Ireland's demographics were changed drastically. When it was Irish it was a notoriously underpopulated area that the English and Scottish settled into and created the plantation system which is why it's considered a protestant area today. NI isn't really that "Irish" and hasn't been for a few hundred years now.

[@j.obrien4990]

The Welsh are about 20 years behind Scotland in seeking independence, and within England itself the English aren't happy with the current governing setup as London does care about York, Liverpool, Manchester, etc. Although the short-term effects may be bad for Scotland, many small nations like Ireland that trade heavily with GB are very successful economically. The trend in Scotland is towards independence especially since younger Scots are much more simpathetic to independence. Having recently watched your video on how Brexit would lead to the UK being a huge success and the EU falling apart, well I'm still waiting.

[@Knight_Kin]

Well if they break up the UK then it won't be such a good market for Ireland to export to as it'll lose a lot more economic potential than anything Brexit could have accomplished, which is debatable how much the UK actually lost from that (some slight reduction in near term GDP growth, but a breakup would be a nominal, large reduction in GDP)

[@nre1553]

Us Welsh are sick of our Assembly and dont forget we voted Brexit.

[@s.r.howell1297]

@@nre1553 You don't speak for all of us.

[@nre1553]

@@s.r.howell1297 No just the majority!

[@michaelleiper]

@@nre1553 Oxford University says that Wales was swung from a remain vote by the votes of English retirees living in Wales.

[@astree214]

Scots : we want independence ! Brits : if you do so, you'll leave the EU market ! Scots : ok, vote NO to independence Albion : brexit

[@Tragantar1310]

perfidious albion is at it again

[@malcolmstead272]

Scots are Brits!

[@toothlesstherussain]

The EU referendum was announced before 2014 froggo.

[@kyzantia8884]

Also leaving the EU was never the reason against independence, this is just SNP retconning propaganda

[@georgemacdonald3087]

@@toothlesstherussain The EU referendum took place in 2015.

[@steve4562]

Love the background history of the disastrous Darian expedition. This is little known and seldom taught but hugely important.

[@davy2365]

I cannot find it in my heart to think that Darian was anything other than a ploy by the bankers and the english lords to force a long desired union. The english were by that time very well experienced in colonisation and knew well what were the requirements for a successful colony, they had both successful and disastrous examples to reflect upon and for those english bankers who funded this disastrous enterprise made sure that if this ridiculous adventure in disease ridden lands were to fail then scotland would be bankrupted by the fact that all of scotlands' finances were tied up in this folly, whether or not the scottish lords were actively involved will remain unproven but I have the opinion that all wars, bar none, have been class wars.

[@lochring]

This subject was taught when I was at school. The gentry of the time invested heavily in this, but England impeded the venture in every way possible. It was the bankruptcy of these gents, the subsequent sanctions against Scotland, then the bribes that swayed all but one (that one is a true hero of Scotland) of this group to vote for the Union.

[@celdur4635]

@@lochring England encouraged Spanish fears with propaganda, and so the Spanish made life difficult for the Scottish colony, since Spain already had several colonies in the area.

[@j.obrien4990]

The Darian Gap remains a no-mans land, the PanAmerican Highway stretches Across North American all the way through Central and South American with one little section missing -- the Darian Gap.

[@celdur4635]

@@j.obrien4990 Because Panama wants to protect its forests. And what you see is what remains. Spain already had Panama City and Colon, built there. Its how they got the Vice-royalty of Peru's gold and silver, from Callao to Panama and then to Asia or overland to Colon and the Atlantic.

[@communistpoultry]

#FreeTibet #FreeXinjiang #FreeHongKong #TaiwanIsACountry #SouthChinaSeaDoesntBelongToChina #FreeInnerMongolia

[@Lusa_Iceheart]

Amen!

[@juliantheapostate8295]

I would never normally support a bot but this is an exception

[@communistpoultry]

@@juliantheapostate8295 Lol, I'm not a bot haha

[@ThePilgrimLad]

I urge all Scottish nationals to remember that the English man is not your enemy, but your friend. Westminster is not the wisest, nor is it the most caring, but that's not likely to last forever. Times will change, governments come and go, Scotland is and will be heard. Do not consider that the English man is your foe; as we share these beautiful isles together in a union that has lasted hundreds of years. Think with your head and your heart, the British people are stronger together.

[@charlesk22]

Says the people who committed atrocity on Scots like in the massacre of Glencoe. You are foes, don't kid yourself and rewrite history.

[@ThePilgrimLad]

@@charlesk22 What an ignorant reply - that's like saying you're responsible for all of the sins of your ancestors. I suggest you find more people to talk to this about.

[@PeIeus]

Much as I agree and want the UK to remain intact, even I admit it is a worrying development

[@REALASUNDER]

Did he just say edin-burg? It's pronounced edin-burh

[@thegreenlandshark6086]

Yup gave me a good chuckle

[@neemapaxima6116]

Brah

[@tony16991]

It's pronounced how the rest of the world pronounces it. Its edin-burg.

[@tbr7035]

@@tony16991 I appreciate the nuances of language are probably a bit complicated for some people, but its pronounced how the locals pronounce it. Do you pronounce Borough as Burg as well, because that would make you look particularly stupid. Even the rest of the germanic languages don't pronounce Burg the same

[@POTATOEH81]

Isn't it edin-bruh : 💀

[@V-O-V]

Make no mistake economically this would be utterly suicidal for Scotland. The reason they can offer all their lovely social programs is because they run a 9% yearly deficit on their budget paid for by the rest of the country. 60% of trade out goes to the UK and 67% of imports comes from the UK. To rejoin they would need to put up a hard border. But somehow scot nats will tell you that wont matter. All of this doesn’t even answer the currency question, pensions (they wont be handed over) or the austerity they will have to go through to meet EU demands. Scot Nats want to have their cake and eat it too but fail to realise they have very little areas of negotiation. They’ve been sold a pipe dream.

[@graemeglass7566]

Aye, keep up the click bait material, sonny!!

[@PunishedRalph]

@@graemeglass7566 You're calling official Scottish government statistics clickbait, way to talk Scotland down Graeme!

[@prophetmuhammad5019]

@V-O-V Everyone know that it's a bad decision financially, but why do you assume that money is the only thing people care about?

[@graemeglass7566]

The deficit is in the GERS report but GERS is an account of finances of Scotland whilst still in the UK. Scotland gets allocated a portion of UK costs "For" Scotland, like Defence, GCHQ, MI5/6, Foreign military bases and embassies, HS2 etc etc. Ie Defence allocation is £3 billion, yet Eire only spend £1.1 billion on defence. It is padded and biased in favour of the Union.

[@graemeglass7566]

@@prophetmuhammad5019 Why is a bad decision financially? Look at the UK treasury £2 Trillion in debt. And what for? The rich get richer and squirrel their money offshore. The poor get poorer. Only growth is foodbanks and homeless people. Tory policy are based on wealth. Landowners renting to people at toxic rates. Leasehold mortages which is a con because when the lease runs out the property isn't yours. Of the whole UK, Scotland has - 8.5% population BUT..... 32% of the land area. 61% of the sea area. 90% of the fresh water. 65% of the natural gas production. 96.5% of the crude oil production. 47% of the open cast coal production 81% of the untapped coal reserves 62% of the timber production 46% of the total forest area 92% of the hydro electric production 40% of the wind wave and solar energy production 60% of the fish landings Then add great universities, highest % of 25-55 age people in or had tertiary education, vast banking and investment skills, Whisky industry etc etc. I believe Scotland will manage just fine. England not so much.

[@New-ye2fl]

Sooner the better 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@sharadjain2463]

I am from India and we are with you, scotland will get freedom from United Kingdom and northern ireland also.

[@Rafale01]

I hope for you from France.

[@tryaluck]

​@@sharadjain2463how about you stop stirring shit up and worry about your own country and build some sewers and toilets. And while you're at it, take back all the Indians living in England.

[@tryaluck]

​@@Rafale01why are you stirring shit up with a country that played a large part in saving your country in WW2, while you cozy up with the country that invaded you?

[@davidbridge5652]

I'm northern English, if Scotland does get independence can you start the border south of Manchester. I'd love to get us away from the corrupt Westminster

[@raulduke6953]

Nah you can just go live in Scotland with the other unemployed we dont have to pay for anymore

[@davidbridge5652]

@@raulduke6953 touched a nerve, must be an MP

[@raulduke6953]

@@davidbridge5652 No a taxpayer .

[@davidbridge5652]

@@raulduke6953 aren't we all

[@raulduke6953]

@@davidbridge5652 Not in Scotland, 5 m population 1 m pensioners . I really hope they leave it will be hilarious

[@graemeglass7566]

Independence referendum in 2014 was ambitious to say the least. In 2013 the YES movement was only polling 31% - 32%. By September the 14th it rose to 45% and this was the eventual result in the referendum. Today in 2022 the polls are virtually 50% YES and NO, with no real independence campaigning started. Covid and the current energy crisis has reduced the focus. However demographics have relentlessly moved towards a YES vote. In 2023 if the referendum goes ahead there will be 9 years of new young voters who are polling 70% YES and don't but into the old image of the UK Union. Similarly, there will 9 years of older voters who have died(accelerated by Covid) who have polled at 65% NO. Also we have all those EU Remainers who voted NO in 2014 because "Better Together" lied about staying in the EU. Of course the final reason is the Current Conservative government and what will be 13 years of austerity which has seen the UK destroyed for ordinary people. Scotland wants and deserves better.

[@PunishedRalph]

Graeme, the Sustainable Growth Commission the SNP released produced a very rosey - and ultimately incorrect - view of Scottish finances if Independent in 2018, and they called for over a decade of austerity worse than the UK had ever undergone. So how does Independence get you better?

[@graemeglass7566]

@@PunishedRalph You call this shit show better? Your standards must really be low. I have read that report and there is no phrase, paragraph relating to a decade of austerity. Go peddle your lies elsewhere. 62 countries have had there independence from UK, most with less natural and intellectual resources that Scotland has. I think we will mange just fine.

[@connor9700]

Scotland won't get better though lol They won't be in the EU for a long time, they'll have a hard border with England AND a hard border in the Irish Sea, Westminster will completely screw them over in all negotiations and retains control of the pound which Scotland will have to use after independence to start off with Things will be very very bad for Scotland if it leaves, you'd have to be delusional to think otherwise

[@graemeglass7566]

@@connor9700 Really? so negative Connor, Why so sad? We will manage just fine. Just like the other 62 countries would have got independence from the UK.

[@PunishedRalph]

@@graemeglass7566 standard nat spangle response. Amazingly stupid.

[@KM-pq7sr]

Liz Truss did not say Scotland should be ignored, she only said that Sturgeon should be ignored.

[@mckenziewilliamhowells233]

A clumsy thing to say all the same. How she has reached the political heights she has (& is about to reach even further still) is beyond me. She's an amateur who will sadly make the case for the dissolution of the Union all the stronger.

[@beboshi69]

@@mckenziewilliamhowells233 She had an affair with her mentor when she was new to the party which helped elevate her standing

[@grave5512]

Essentially the same thing, as the people of Scotland elected Nicola Sturgeons party to its position.

[@229andymon]

And who is Sturgeon? She is (unlike Truss) the democratically elected and very popular leader of her country. Are you saying someone advocating “ignoring” the US president is *not* advocating ignoring the US, or China, France etc?

[@229andymon]

@@mckenziewilliamhowells233 That the Tories managed to find some one that will potentially make Bojo look like a statesman took some doing. It’s beyond bizarre.

[@Toys510]

The reliance on the slogan, ‘once in a generation’ was just that, a slogan. It’s got the same constitutional standing as the £350 million for the NHS per week on a bus and it doesn’t invalidate the results of a future referendum. If the House of Commons votes to simply refuse to grant a second referendum to the Scots Government elected with a mandate to hold such a referendum then they will be changing the Union of the United Kingdom from one based on consent to one that survives only by force of law.

[@bobpage6597]

Except the NHS is actually being given £394 million a week, so, its actually getting more than what was promised.

[@davidrichardson5482]

Not really, though both were slogans, once in a generation is not the same as 'we could do this'. Also all unions' governments survive by force of law - the entire UK can't be held to ransom every few years by one part of it ad infinitum.

[@jacksonmiller2886]

On the other hand, holding a "will the nation split in half" referendum every few years would completely undermine the legitimacy of the state.

[@alois9206]

@@davidrichardson5482 Bro the UK constitution is litteraly gentlemen rules

[@davidrichardson5482]

@@alois9206 cheers bro

[@redbeam9212]

"Canada's Alberta region has some separatist tendencies". *Quebec has left the chat*

[@ThistleTheSocialist]

There is many societal differences between Scotland and England in the modern day. Scotland is a progressive nation wishing to carve it's own path, it should be allowed to. FREEDOM.

[@normanlazarus1836]

It is an undisputed fact that the EU single market is much bigger than that of the UK. So how come that after 40 years of having access to this market by virtue of the UK’s EU membership Scotland’s biggest trading partner is still England, Ireland & Wales? It would seem that opportunity & actuality are very different things.

[@legopenguin9]

because scotland's nearest countries are england, ireland and wales, trade deals are a westminster thing and scotland is still very much politically intertwined with the rest of the uk. ireland did just fine after disconnecting from the uk and transitioned from having the uk as their biggest trading partner to the eu despite being geographically further away from it. maybe scotland isnt trading with the eu because not only can they just not choose to, brexit has made trading with the eu a bigger headache than it was before. maybe think about things for 5 seconds before you post next time thanks

[@jk-gb4et]

Cuz it’s the same country... what don’t u get

[@delos2279]

That's because of geography. But it's interesting you list Ireland separately from the EU since it's an independent country in the EU, not the UK.

[@TilveranWrites]

I imagine it's 'cos England is the breadbasket that feeds Scotland. I'm from a farming county myself, so I'm familiar with England's bounty. And surely it's easier to get something by road from England than by shipping across the seas. How much of that would change with a hard land-border, like the chaos down in Dover? Well, suddenly the ships might look easier!

[@normanlazarus1836]

@@legopenguin9 I actually thought about it for more than 5 seconds unlike you. My greater than 5 seconds reasoning for asking was to question the rhetoric (from the SNP & in particular Nicola Sturgeon) that the potential of the EU market is now important whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that the vastly larger market that the EU controls had not been exploited by Scotland in the last 40 years (whilst being a member of the EU). Your reply talks about: Westminster trade deals (Scotland has been able to trade freely with the EU for the last 40 years, it has chosen not to). I did not mention Ireland (NI or RoI) so your reference in this case is irrelevant. I did not ask about trade following Brexit, I asked about trade for the 40 years prior to Brexit. Your resistance to actually addressing the issue that I raised rather than obfuscating indicates that 5 seconds thought is not enough.

[@lecturesfromleeds614]

Speaking as someone from England, I believe Scotland will leave the UK, and I wouldn't blame them for doing so. This Tory government is making it impossible to justify staying in the UK. The British government allowed Northern Ireland to have a better trade deal with the EU than Scotland, if the government can't at least offer the same compromise for Scotland, then that just proves it's not a union of equals. Northern Ireland gets full access to the EU market while Scotland doesn't, even though they wanted no part of Brexit

[@Leo-sx1ds]

So you want a hard border between Scotland and England?

[@georgevirtus]

I don't want this to happen. The world is suffering at the moment. Im my opinion as soon as Scotland declares independence, then they'll have a hard time.

[@georgevirtus]

@Kyle Who?

[@616ShadowFox]

Honestly I think the whole of the UK should declare independence from London, leave the Tories to their hellscape

[@georgevirtus]

@@616ShadowFox Bruh, just oust the Tories.

[@Just_a.Fightfan]

Northern Ireland also wanted to stay in the EU. If Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 leaves Northern Ireland will also leave

[@jormungandrtheworldserpent8382]

as a scot its always funny hearing foreigners mispronounce Edinburgh the h at the end isent there just to look cool its pronounced like endinbura

[@politics4304]

I am Scottish and I support independence!

[@piseag458]

Independence is normal

[@Arya_amsha]

it will benefit Scotland look at Ireland, Iceland, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark all of Scotland small neighbours have very high quality of life compared to Scotland

[@Arya_amsha]

@@piseag458 true

[@piseag458]

@@Arya_amsha Luxembourg has less than a million popn and has highest GDP in Europe, don't forget baltics Latvia, Estonia.. ✌😊

[@Zoco101]

Of course Scotland will break away - that's how these things work. Nothing lasts forever, particularly not unions where one or more partners are getting a raw deal. The only question in my mind is: When? Will Scotland suffer (short term) from leaving Britain? Yes, of course! But Iike I said, nothing lasts forever. Now here's a mischievous (half serious) thought: Maybe Scotland and Ireland should form a new Union. That would really irritate the English nationalists, and it might get Scotland straight back into the EU. After its Brexit mistakes, England would deserve such a humiliation.

[@Zoco101]

@Nathaniel Garro Yeah I've heard all of these imperialist arguments before. They rhyme with "North Sea oil will run out", but it doesn't and it doesn't; "the Irish could never govern themselves", but they do; "India and Australia need British rule", but no, now we see that they don't. We shall see who gets what with N Sea oil after the split. At the moment it's making the English rich. As, I said, it will hurt at first, but don't overestimate the importance of England and Wales. You mentioned important trade with Ireland, but that can only get easier for a country that joins the EU. Many West Germans didn't want to reunite with East Germans, but it happened, and virtually everybody now realises that it was natural and necessary. It is much more natural for Ireland to be united than for the north to remain a part of the UK. And even if for some technical reason it is impractical, it will happen anyway. Resisting the inevitable is stupid. If by any chance you are a Scot or an N Irishman, you need to look in the mirror and open your eyes to your country's future. The future is much more than some pessimistic economic forecast.

[@JeroenJA]

@caspianReport : HOW can you reffer to referrendum 2014 for referrendum now, without mentioning that the main campaign to stay in the UK in 2014 was that else Scotland would fall out of the EU if it voted to leave the UK?? that is the main reason, Scotland was promissed to stay securely, as part of the UK IN the EU in 2014 , and only 2 years later, cause of a gamble refferendum the UK just decided to leave that EU.... so they really cheated our the Scots !

[@deannilvalli6579]

This may be how the UK ends, but certainly not how "Britain ends", as Britain is the name of an island. It is not a political entity, but a geological one. The United Kingdom may indeed break up after Scottish independence, and it is just as likely or unliikely that Northern Ireland will leave the UK. Even in Wales there is a longstanding independence movement.

[@andreyg.2388]

SCOTLAND SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT.

[@Greenkiller100]

Shouted for effect. you melt.

[@tatradak]

The Scottish economical incompetence of the late 1600's is totally true but there is a wee twist, that should be told, whereby it was the Scots Nobles (who lost their wealth) not the people and were offered "the equivalent" in loans from England (Westminster) to replace the £400K the Scots Nobles lost in the "Darian Debacle", in return the Nobles wouldn't block the signing of the "Act of the Union" 1707...the Scots people still didn't agree and finally the Jacobite (peoples) rebellion was crushed by the new Union Army many of them where Scots whom were promised new land in the Highlands . Finally in 1745 at Culloden the Union army beat the Jacobite Rebellion and the 1707 act was completed nearly 40 years later!!

[@vagabondflow]

The Company of Scotland had 1000 shareholders, which sounds like it should be just nobles, but in fact some shares were owned by sub-companies with names like 'the People of Brechin' and 'the People of Leith'. Lots of ordinary Scots invested as well.

[@arturobianco848]

@@vagabondflow True enough but they didn't really get anything in return. i'm pretty sure that if they recieved loans they needed to pay them back.

[@Gilberto90]

@@arturobianco848 they got their economy not completely collapsing in return. Besides, the English couldn't simply give them money as that would cause either massive inflation or deflation to the English currency as the English would have either had to print more notes per gold deposited or send more gold to Scotland; drastically decreasing the money supply available in England. The effect of nearly reaching the economic precipice was such that afterwards Scottish banks were generally more conservative in lending than their English counterparts which in turn gave them a reputation for prudence (until the 2008 crash). This is part of the reason why Scottish banks can print their own bank notes.

[@johndgowrie1376]

Really “Article 15 granted £398,085 and ten shillings sterling to Scotland, a sum known as The Equivalent, to offset future liability towards the English national debt, which at the time was £18 million, but as Scotland had no national debt”

[@arturobianco848]

@@Gilberto90 Most of the econany was local at that time. it was only really in favor of the rich and powerfull. So the totall collapse of the ecomy woudn't have hurt about 85% of the popultion that much. Now if you made the argument that Scotland couldn'r afford to defend itself anymore and therefor needed "Ansluss"you might have had a point.

[@Pax.Britannica]

12:00 No one was ridiculing Scotland. Liz Truss wasn't ridiculing Scotland. Everyone with half a brain however, ridicules Sturgeon.

[@jebbo-c1l]

oh please she's the most respectable political leader in the UK by a huge margin

[@Pax.Britannica]

@@jebbo-c1l Kek, enjoy your independent nation where kitchen table speech is monitored by big sister for "hate words".

[@ian2372]

The smaller and more local the government the better for the common man. William Wallace would never accept an England crown.

[@domtromans2783]

I feel like if Scotland leaves now before we sort out our stupid af voting system, it pretty much perpetually guarantees a hostile Tory government south of the border. And that’s just awful for Scots and English alike.

[@domtromans2783]

@@soulsphere9242 It wasn’t the ideal system we were looking for, but I got out and campaigned for it anyway! (And I’m onboard with any plan to democratise the Lords.) To be fair, it was a perfect political storm - not long after an election (so low participation), a poorly ran Yes campaign, and poor understanding of what was being proposed. Unfortunately, I think it and the Scotland referendum gave Cameron the idea that he could win any referendum easily.

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

@@soulsphere9242 sadly the house of lords is actually working

[@charlieboy6315]

@@soulsphere9242 Problem was the AV system being proposed was designed (deliberately) to make almost no difference in practice, because the Lib Dems allowed themselves to be hypnotised by a whiff of power and buckled to Tory demands on the subject. A lot of people who wanted electoral reform simply didn't turn out because the proposal was so toothless. However, if the polls don't change significantly in the next 2 years, there may be another opportunity on the horizon if the LDs end up in coalition with Labour (and don't fuck it up this time!). I hope so - it's the elephant in the room of British politics.

[@33m3c]

Should be noted that before the act of union there was the act of crowns around a hundred years before it, that joined the monarchs together, mainly the first king of the Uk was a Scottish one. But of course 1690 that had to be runied..

[@stephenhartley2853]

it as more a catholic/protestant thing. people were tired of catholic backwardness.

[@brunobastos5533]

that was a trick to get Scotland onboard

[@MrAndrew941]

I’m Scottish and proud to be British, the SNP doesn’t speak for me and nor does Nicola Sturgeon. The SNP vision of scotland is one of isolation and inward looking, small minded and anglophobic. That is not a scotland I want my daughter grown-up in

[@leftifornian2066]

Independence or death Hang your kilt

[@WilliamWallace42]

FREEDOM!!!!

[@Dayl_Adams]

Scotland could rebuild and hopefully be as rich as Norway, we have the assets, we have something special. we need this to progress as a country, as a culture, to keep our identity like our ancestors once did. we need more freedom so that we can progress into a more technological and sustainable country.

[@bennshephard8682]

Scotland would never be as rich as Norway, you’d become a backwater like Moldova 😂

[@Dayl_Adams]

@@bennshephard8682 Scotland essentially has the same raw resources as Norway, near enough the same population too, stay mad

[@abcdefksohfosuh9024]

The reason Norway is so rich is because it owns 1.5% of the worlds shares, that is an insane amount.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@Dayl_Adams no it doesn't. Nor does resources equal wealth as seen by literally everywhere. You also lack the skills and capital and government protection and power of westminster, to secure favorable deals. Lol you may not be mad, you certainly aren't smart.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

You don't have the assets. You're culture isn't anymore safe outside of the union, without the union large groups of people will just up and leave the country at a greater level than ever before. The snp has been cutting and hurting freedoms of scotland for years. You're a fool.

[@Mic_Glow]

I wonder how many % voted to remain in 2014 because leaving would also mean leaving the EU (or stay in EU together with England, which wouldn't change that much for the average Joe or companies- the same european market, the same mobility=no point in leaving)

[@josm1481]

We'll never know. But anybody who believed a referendum was guaranteed isn't that bright.

[@charlieboy6315]

The lines aren't that clear cut - more than 1/3 of 'yes' voters voted ''leave' in the EU referendum

[@henrywalters4251]

Why does everyone on KZbin push the Panama colony as the reason for the act of Union, Scotland and England had been merging their legal systems for nearly a century leading up to this and in reality Scotland had been administered as part of England since the civil war

[@crose7412]

@Henry Walters Even to this day, Scotland has its own legal system so they certainly haven't merged at all.

[@henrywalters4251]

@@HerewardWake the act of the union was basically just confirming reality. the act of the union was the first law tabled in the first session of the 1604 parliament and was rejected because the English wanted to slowly merge the two countries legal code and court system . the reality was that Scottish autonomy basically ended after the civil war when it was administered as part of the Major General system

[@henrywalters4251]

@@crose7412 no the modern Scottish legal system is only 20 years old, before that Scotland and England had been administered as one country since the 1640s

[@crose7412]

@@henrywalters4251 Cobblers.

[@henrywalters4251]

@@crose7412 care to elaborate?

[@d.jparer5184]

The short answer is no, the long answer is definitely no.

[@keimcpartlan7434]

I hope Scotland doesn’t have the problems that Ireland did, if Scotland or wales is independent than Ireland will help them.

[@japple9501]

And who bails out Ireland?

[@jamielonsdale3018]

Ireland had the problem of being allied to France. We had to invade you to stop a catholic French army invading us from the West. No hard feelings, that was just the geo-political reality of the time. These days if we are worried about being invaded we boot up the computer, check the satellite downlinks and figure out if we need to expend any of our nuclear munitions. Sure, we have other tools like an air force and a navy, but there's no overkill like nuclear overkill.

[@matty6848]

Ireland can’t afford too start helping other nations. Their economy is not exactly huge is it.

[@wodens-hitman1552]

Ireland? 😂😂😂😂🤡

[@V-O-V]

If you think Ireland is willing to pay the billions Scotland will need after losing the UKs cash you are crazy. You prepared to pay the 9% deficit they run?

[@ekksoku]

As an Englishman, I'm rooting for Scottish independence. I favour decentralisation. And it means less SNP influence in parliament.

[@silverhost9782]

I feel the same way tbh

[@juliantheapostate8295]

Understandable. I'm Scottish and they do my head in

[@ekksoku]

@@juliantheapostate8295 Only thing I feel bad for mate, is the Scots who'll be even less powerless against the SNP if you leave - but hopefully, there will become multiple Scottish parties and you can become represented.

[@xtrememanster]

"Canada's Alberta has separatist tendencies", pretty sure Canadians are far more concerned for Quebec. Wexit was a meme and always will be, but Quebec separatism has an actual risk of taking place and nearly did in the past. Quebec had a referendum in 1995 on moving towards sovereignty and the vote against won with an EXTREMELY thin 50.58%, whereas albertans mostly only want more provincial autonomy.

[@ryanelliott71698]

True. Wexit was as serious of an idea as CANZUK. There was no real political movement, which resulted in both ideas being forgotten about

[@JDS8]

I would be willing to bet the higher percentage of Canadian outlets reporting on a potential Scottish independence has to do with Canadas historic ties to the UK and Scotland particularly than anything to do with Alberta’s separatism

[@hoebread7584]

ottowexit >>>>>

[@xtrememanster]

@@hoebread7584 building the ottawall is of the utmost importance

[@monkeymox2544]

11:45 "England cannot seem to help itself" - please be careful, you're conflating England and the UK. Liz Truss is campaigning for the Tory leadership to become Prime Minister of the UNITED KINGDOM. There is no English state, there is no sense in which 'England' can do anything. You'd be more accurate saying "clueless Tories who don't seem to care about the future of the union, or any part of it outside the bits with money, cannot help themselves'.

[@mrrandom1265]

Don't underestimate the many countries who would "punish" a newly independent Scotland for fear to see their own county divided by independentist movements.

[@charlesk22]

The EU members will show their teeth then, and people will be surprised lol. I agree brexit may have been negative, but everyone conveniently forgets how the EU spent months, nearly a year, demonizing and punishing Britain for what, regardless of it being right or wrong, was a decision made democratically by the populace free and fairly, even had an orchestra with EU funding literally do a tour calling it "a betrayal" (betrayal to who???). Everyone seems to have forgotten about it except those who saw it all happen and remember it vividly.

[@One.Zero.One101]

Wow I didn’t know the UK was performing so poorly compared to other european 1st world nations. What a downfall and i can understand the scots for wanting to leave.

[@m.g.3013]

Full of shit, you are.

[@jono_cc2258]

Odd statement since the only people that might have a gripe are the Spanish and they've said on numerous occasions they have no issues with Scotland becoming independent provided they follow the correct legal process. What other countries of note would want to punish Scotland? I honestly can't think of any.

[@ninianstorm6494]

dark reason fbi claim russia hack george bush 14y ago said add ukraine to nato foreshadow nuland f eu coup 2014 support = 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIW0ZHdnlpKdaJI 2001 pentagon memo kill occupy iraq to syria kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ7Ve4V-rMeJfZo

[@KarlT1999]

Spain might be hurdle for Scotland to join the EU because of Spain might want to discourage secessionist movement in their own country via blocking Scotland EU bid, this might however be solved by concession by the rest of the EU to Spain.

[@ThymeTwister]

Spain will not be a hurdle. They have not only (both recent governments on both sides of the political spectrum) said they would not block Scotland, but also have no grounds for that veto.

[@Astro_Guy_1]

Spain has been clear that they will not block Scotland. Which is in their best interest tbh, they'd lose ALOT of goodwill by blocking a prime candidate from joining.

[@Astro_Guy_1]

@progamerxc well, britain is not in the EU so they would not vote on it anyways.

[@229andymon]

The “Spanish veto”. Number 3 on the list of unionist BS bingo…..

[@KarlT1999]

why are Spain so iffy about Kosovo then?

[@Daveodaddeo101]

Even if Scotland gained independence which I very much doubt it would. It could never join the EU due to some member states (Belgium and Spain) having potential breakaway regions would gain momentum if Scotland were to join.

[@kyzantia8884]

It also does not pass the EU's economic barriers to entry.

[@GCarty80]

If Brexit hadn't happened then you'd be right, that an independent Scotland might be rejected by the EU for fear of encouraging Flemish and Catalan separatists. But doesn't Brexit mean that such a precedent no longer exists (unless of course Belgium or Spain were to consider leaving the EU), and that indeed some EU governments and/or the EU itself might want to break up the UK to punish it for leaving the EU?

[@lindabastable3021]

Wrong on two counts:- Both countries are on record that they welcome the return of Scotland to the EU, and would never veto us. Scotland is not a region of another country. Scotland was a country some 800 years before James VI ascended the throne as James I and tried to join both countries. It was another 200 years before the Act of Union was agreed. Scotland is in a Union with another country. As for K888 ... I get so tired of the complete ignorance of Scotland's economy, political economy, and potential economy. Try a few facts mixed in with the propaganda so unthinkingly regurgitated. As an additional point, the Scottish government did not say the referendum was a "once in a lifetime" event. This was one single remark, made spontaneously, never repeated, and immediately fastened upon by what passes for a news media in the disUnited Kingdom.

[@juliantheapostate8295]

@@lindabastable3021 Scotland's fiscal deficit is too high to enter, based on the EU's own rules. Of course France and Germany are allowed to flout any rules they like, but I doubt they'd allow us to do so

[@lindabastable3021]

@@juliantheapostate8295 Please stop parroting this same old propaganda. It isn't 2014 any more, and simply regurgitating debunked scare mongering misinformation won't work this time around. 1. Scotland has, in fact, no deficit. This is because Scotland works within budget, and has done every year since records began. We have no option under the Scotland Act. 2. The "deficit" so glibly trotted out by the uninformed is an entirely notional figure. It is an imposed sum claimed to be Scotland's share of spending on public projects throughout the disUnited Kingdom. As such the "deficit" is an argument for Independence. 3. The EU is perfectly aware of the invidious system of saddling Scotland with debts incurred by Wastemonster. If you followed any European news source you would be aware of this. They do not consider the Scottish "deficit" a disqualification under their rules. The whole "deficit" argument is utterly discredited, not by Scotland alone, but by the EU. As are the arguments about Belgium and Spain vetoing Scotland's EU application. Again, if you followed any European news outlet you would know this. Just last year the Spanish Ambassador stated in an interview that he was deathly tired of endlessly instructing disUnited Kingdom media that Catalonia is a Spanish region and Scotland is a country in a union with England. The two situations bear no resemblance to each other. All member countries of the EU can grasp that Scotland is a country, and not an English region. The UN also grasps this fact. Why then do unionists find it so difficult? It is a fact. No amount of obfuscation alters this fact. If you wish to separate fact from unionist fiction, I suggest getting your information from abroad. Whether this is Northern Ireland, America, Canada or Europe is your choice. Europe has English language news channels. But most foreign media can be translated by your chosen device. I don't suggest getting your news from Scottish sources, you probably wouldn't believe them. However, if the sources are outwith the disUnited Kingdom you can either believe them, or choose to believe that the international community is in a conspiracy to destroy the british union. If you choose to believe the latter, I suggest you go and have a lie down in a darkened room.

[@Capt.Thunder]

Liz Truss was saying to ignore the SNP, rather than ignore Scotland. Even a large number of Scottish people hate Nicola Sturgeon (and her successor, Humza Yousef). It's perfectly natural to ignore them, they are a disgrace, and their incompetence is arguably undermining the case for independence.

[@Capt.Thunder]

@harrtybb You're really out of touch, but I don't blame you. The Tory party have done all that they can to not carry out Brexit, so of course it looks insane to you, the Tories are not a serious party and never have been. And the SNP are a joke of a party, just like the Tories. However, the Scottish wish for independence isn't a joke, just like the British desire for independence isn't a joke. That's why I made the distinction. But I don't know why you're so enamoured of being governed by an undemocratic unaccountable foreign superstate (the EU), yet hate the idea of being part of the UK. At least in the UK, you get a disproportionate amount of funding, a decent amount of autonomy on social policy, and most of your trade was with us anyway prior to Brexit. It doesn't change very much at all for you, compared to what leaving the UK would be. Brexit is about rejecting foreign technocratic rule and returning power to the people. But many Celts unfortunately have communism and despotism in their blood or something, so many of them seemingly can't (or more accurately, don't want to) understand nationalism, liberty, tradition or personal responsibility. They, like you, consider it "madness". I don't think I'll ever understand why.

[@heralds5662]

China and Russia will support Scotland's Independence.

[@silverhost9782]

As will Pakistani, Indian nationalists and the like. I wonder why?🤣

[@Gabriel-l]

unlikely. Gives reason for Chinese and Russian prvovinces to break away too. There is a reason countries stlill don't support independence movements of Catalan and Somaliland

[@jon1801]

Thats why we have the Emperors Wall.

[@putan393]

@@Gabriel-l chechnya,kalingrad,siberia wants freedom

[@Perrirodan1]

@@Gabriel-l China supports the Taliban while repressing Muslims in their country. They also support diversity and Black Lives Matters while being very racist in their country. Don't worry, the Chinese are alread experts at this kind of thing.

[@mckenziewilliamhowells233]

It's a now-or-never moment for Scottish Independence. The Tories will be voted out in 2024, and the case for the Union will become only stronger. Sturgeon knows this, hence her move to have a referendum in 2023, and call the 2024 election a de facto referendum (which is a ludicrous claim, since the UK's political voting system is First Past the Post, so the SNP can win most seats with only 30% of the vote- claiming that's Scotland voting for independence is pure disingenuity).

[@Amaurn89]

Holyrood & Scottish government doesn't use FPtP as it's voting method; if the SNP have independence as their #1 priority and it's no secret then getting voted-in with a big majority actually reflects most of the population. That said, what I'd love the see is the abolishment of FPtP in Westminster, in favour of a democratic system. Ideally reform ties with Europe after the disaster the Brexit has oh-so-predictably been. Then the UK can maybe align it's interests again and work things out.

[@wholelifeahead]

Not to mention the scores of voters who vote for the SNP because its the only party representing "Scottish interest" and not necessarily because of independence

[@229andymon]

@@wholelifeahead Why don’t they think the unionist parties represent Scottish interest?

[@229andymon]

You omit to mention that the only way the SNP would have arrived at that (2024) position would be if UK had bottled out of Indyref2 due to their being too scared to fight it….. a wee bit of “pure disingenuity” perhaps?

[@wholelifeahead]

@@229andymon because Scots have a chip on their shoulder and have to be explicitly told they're special instead of understanding that policies that help the vast majority of British people are in fact more important

[@ground_news]

Great working with you as always! To those of you interested in getting the full picture of issues like the one in this video, check out the link in the description and let us know if you have any questions.

[@a1990hussain]

What are you criteria for defining a news outlet as left or right, and their distance along that spectrum?

[@wingedarr0w]

Those charts at 10:00 are misleading, they are missing Germany, France, Italy (aka 55% of the EU), and also all of the less poor countries. UK is very much in line with those countries. So it is not "UK has performed worse than Europe", it is "if you exclude most of Europe, then UK is worse than 'Europe'".

[@NoName-hg6cc]

uk has, since 2016, performed worse than any of the big three

[@markmuller7962]

I'd assume that right now, after a global pandemic and during a terrible war in Europe a referendum for independence would fail. People seeks stability in times of crisis

[@quartzking3997]

Why should a war hundreds of miles away and a virus that most people are now vaccinated against have any impact on holding a referendum? If anything, a larger state aggressively imposing its will on its smaller neighbour should encourage independence.

[@markmuller7962]

@@quartzking3997 I'd be a little bit patient and wait some times before holding a referendum if I was in you

[@markmuller7962]

@Kyle Well you've lost the last referendum, all I'm saying is that crisis and fear are not rational thoughts/emotions so people may vote with their guts and make you lose again which would be 2 times in a row which would equal a disaster for your cause

[@markmuller7962]

@Kyle Dude first of all chill out, I'm not English lmao I'm Italian and Swiss, I sound "condescending" because I'm pretty much neutral about the subject and all I'm formulating are rational sociological analysis for the sake of rational sociological analysis because I like sociology a lot but then you and the other hysterical racoon kids here on KZbin gank me like the Scottish independence enemy number one... ffs what's wrong with youtube comments? Probably the demographics. And I probably should mute every further reply on this comment because unlike you kids my free time is very limited.

[@jonathanbelfire]

Hmmm... There's a couple of key points that you didn't cover that greatly influence the decisions. The Act of Union was not Scotland subjugating itself to England but rather a unity of 2 countries that were already under 1 crown. That may not seem like much but it frames the question of Scotland's unity with England as mutually beneficial rather than something Scotland had to do because it fucked up it's finances. The other key point that's even more important is that you framed Scotland's independence as a chance for them to rejoin a much larger trade union (ie the EU). However, there's a significant possibility that Scotland would not be permitted to join the EU. Several EU nations are dealing with separatist movements in their nation and allowing Scotland to join after it breaks away would send a signal to these separatist groups that they too could break away and join the EU. Spain in particular has bluntly refuted any claims that it would allow Scotland to join. There was a scandal when one of their officials made a statement that Spain would allow it which was picked up by many pro independence newspapers. However, what wasn't covered was that this official was promptly fired and Spain issued a statement refuting it.

[@costinhalaicu2746]

If they were to leave legally, within the bounds of the law, then no EU country would have a problem with them, since the independence movement in Catalunya organized their referendum illegally.

[@jonathanbelfire]

@@costinhalaicu2746 That may not be accurate. Miguel Angel Vecino Quintana (the official I mentioned before) publicly stated that Spain will not block Scotland's entry into the European Union if independence is legally achieved. He was summarily fired after making this statement. The reality is that Spain is very concerned with separatist movements and does not want to do anything that may encourage them. It's important to note, Spain has not officially said they would veto Scottish attempts to join the EU either. However, it's widely believed that Spain would be very reluctant to let them join and if Scotland joined, Spain would likely draw out the process for decades (think about how difficult of a time Turkey has had in joining). What this means is that with a population of ~5 million, Scotland would have a very difficult time getting favorable international deals as it is not large enough to warrant giving special deals and discounts that larger nations or trade blocks get. The UK leaving the EU was a bad move and will hurt them economically. Scotland leaving the UK is considerably worse unless they can join the EU which wouldn't happen for at least a decade (average time to join EU) but more likely several decades (time it takes for countries to join when EU members aren't as eager to have them).

[@noodlyappendage6729]

The UK leaving the EU was great. I want CANZUK not the EU.

[@cosmoray9750]

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[@Harrier_DuBois]

Scotland would get to join, of course, we voted to remain. Trying to prevent separatists is not a legimitate reason to exclude us.

[@patkelley4071]

Scotland should pay attention to what's happening in Ireland. A unified Ireland could be an interesting economic partner for an independent Scotland, to establish a Celtic confederacy.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

You’re delusional.

[@Ezmarii997]

Thank you for the video. your organization of talking points are well thought out and feels like you provide a balanced viewpoint!

[@MarcOCymru]

Thanks for covering this. A few points: 1. Cymru was pushed over the line to vote leave because of the large English retiree communities living in Cymru who were strong leavers. This was found in an Oxford study and was reported in the Guardian, Nation.Cymru and others (can be found with a simple Google search). Therefore the only country that voted leave was England. 2. Of course Scotland can make it as an independent country - it would do exactly what the 200 plus other independent countries do across the world. Some of which are much smaller, in many metrics. They criticised Malta’s independence in Tory media in exactly the same way saying that Malta wouldn’t be able to exist without England, that there would be mass unemployment and the country would go bankrupt. Look how wrong they were - Malta’s GDP per capita isn’t too dissimilar from the UK in world rankings, both in the 20s (when I last checked). Plus look at Ireland, USA, India, Canada, South Africa, Australia and all the other formerly English colonies that have now gone independent from England. They’re doing just fine. 3. It’s wrong when a country wants to do something but has to ask a foreign country for permission. 4. The same conversation happening in Scotland is also happening in Cymru and northern Ireland. England just ripped their countryside apart tearing up 2000 year old trees and compulsory purchasing land and homes to save 20 minutes off a journey from norther England to London. This is HS2, and it also came out of Cymru’s budget despite not a single metre existing in Cymru, plus government reports admit it will damage the economy of Cymru as businesses might prefer to be near the HS2. So Westminster takes our cash for their luxuries whilst Cymru has major issues (health and poverty some of the worst in Europe) but they’ll blame the devolved government because they’d prefer a one rule setup to profit themselves. 5. Therefore the union is already dead, it’s just the paperwork takes a while to go through.

[@GkPhotographic]

Cymru / Wales Eire / Ireland your language comes from this island Eireann . you need to rid yourself of that colonial mind set . the northern Ireland only exists in the minds of engenders , its called Ulster , do not divide it . we are Geals , Irish , Scots , Welsh . they are the invaders .

[@12oxspring]

''3. It’s wrong when a country wants to do something but has to ask a foreign country for permission.''. Scotland isn't an independent country though, it's part of a union that the majority of Scots who voted in the 2014 Referendum decided they wanted to remain a part of. I cant think of a single democratic state where a part of that state can just decide to leave and does not have to form an agreement with the central government to do so - its a fundamental part of democracy

[@georgecantrill7344]

I agree with the right to self determination and just because your opinion wasn’t expressed in the democratic decision doesn’t mean there should be more and more referendums until maybe one time it’ll win. The United Kingdom is a unified nation of nations and Scotland in particular has never been a colony of England- even historically the king of Scotland took the English crown to royally align the nations. Ultimately there is much more that unites Great Britain than divides it.

[@michaelhalsall5684]

@@GkPhotographic I believe that any independence movement must be based on sound economic principles. I believe that the Reunification of Ireland will take place because the Republic has a bouyant economy and Northern Ireland has growing economy which will make it an asset rather than a burden once it rejoins the other Irish Counties. The Scottish economy is currently quite healthy and that country probably has the income to stand on its own. The Welsh economy is currently weak and the small size of Wales make it unlikely that full independence would work for them. I believe that Wales , like their French relatives the Bretons, should aim for a cultural and linguistic independence rather than poliical indepedence.

[@TaySplatoon]

Ridiculous. The rural welsh voted for it as well. And it’s Wales not Cymru, we’re speaking english. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

[@abhishekdev258]

"Independence" from what? Scottland isn't a colony, Scottish people also get to choose what happens to English, Irish & Welsh. It is more like breaking away from a country.

[@ameytiwari1247]

they are breaking away from a union of countries

[@vadoksam9235]

As a Scot. I want independence. We deserve it.

[@GameandFoodTech]

But Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿have made themselves habit of Remaining slave of BRTISH

[@darkkboy2525]

Why?Me interesting

[@vadoksam9235]

@@GameandFoodTech @GameTech we won 2 out of 2 wars of Independence and won more battles despite being England having more men, equipment, troops, resources, expertise, experience, money, land, ships for hundreds and hundreds of years before a King volunteered a union that happened fully In 1707. So for all of our history we were Independent before our head of state peacefully and lawfully joined a POLITICAL union with England. I see no slaves here? We won All independence wars. We won more battles. We succeeded In keeping our borders nearly fully the same. We joined a political union and became a core part of the British empire. Now we want to leave and go back to how we have been throughout the vast majority of our history since before christ as we outlived and outlasted the Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Norman's etc etc. We are more ancient, far smaller and went up against insermountable odds time and time again since before and far longer than all empires and conquerors and people's named above. YET -- huh? We are still here? We are not slaves. We are not puppets. We are not dead. And we never have been. Can the same be said about the legendary nations and peoples afore mentioned? And we never have been. Now, can you say the same of your country? So the next time you look down on Scotland, as many many men, empires, nations, conquerors and legendary roman ceasars have (of whom are far greater men than you will ever be) you rember that those mentioned men who are far greater than you too looked down on us and failed miserablely. Time and time again. LEGENDARY MEN, whoms wealth, status, words, empires, battles, philosophies, successes and literal stone statues echo endlessly through modern day mans mouth through word, song, book, mind and thought. Those men, who have become legends. Looked at Scotland. Looked down on Scotland. Came to Scotland. Tried to conquer Scotland. And failed. Which country do you arise from? Let me know then we can compare how much smaller and harder Scotland had it as it stood alone against one of the biggest and most successful (if measured In conquest, economics, military and historically important) nations of all time. England. Of whom had so much more over Scotland and could never quite come close to getting control over it for even a year let alone "conqure it". Scotts were never slaves. I suspect you are from the middle east or some backward "Bosnian" or "Albanian". So again ask yourself this. Was your country ever a slave. Scotland sure as hell wasn't. Don't take braveheart and movies as history lessons. Saor Alba, Ave Europa. Kosovo Je Serbia We are not slaves.

[@vadoksam9235]

@@darkkboy2525 England had more men, equipment, money, experience, land, cavalry, ships and resources and far outnumbered us constantly with no where for us to go but the sea. Yet we won 2 out of 2 independence wars. Won more battles. And were never conquered and remained Independent for all our history before our King decided to join a voluntary politicsl union in 1707. However, England destroyed our language and highlanders. (the Highlands used to be full of people and livestock, now its a ghost land where no one lives as England murdered all who lived there). They destroyed our monarchy and flooded our lands with pro English protestants and turned us from celts to saxons. The destroyed our culture and banned kilts and destroy four language homes and filled our lands with English men like what they done in Ireland. There will be a reckoning. I walk this earth to exert the revenge of an ancient wrath of all celts and Scots who died to foreign saxon English scum. Wallace, The Bruce, Charlie and all the Highlanders live through me. Saor Alba we will be free.

[@belltond1527]

It won’t break away it won’t survive

[@nafrost2787]

9:50 how were this countries chosen? Because with the exception of Belgium, for me it seems like the Scottish government, simply chose extremely prosperous countries to make the UK look bad. I would have picked Germany or France for example instead of Finland, Austria or Switzerland to compare to the UK.

[@seaghnelson9873]

They were chosen because they have similar populations to Scotland while Germany and France have much larger populations

[@legopenguin9]

they weren't comparing them to the uk though, they were used as examples of what scotland could be post-independence

[@nafrost2787]

Thank you guys, this does make more sense, I thought they were comparing them to the UK because of the video.

[@H2oAllergicShark]

@@nafrost2787 Didn't include Ireland or any easten european countries in the example either though, or portugal. I feel like your 1st instinct was right NaFrost, just seemed to me to be prosperous nordic countries for better comparisons.

[@quartzking3997]

@@nafrost2787 Shirvan made another omission here. Sturgeon’s “blueprint”, as she called it, was intended to compare the UK to countries of similar size and population to Scotland in Europe to Scotland to see how much better off we could be (key word here is “intended”). She made the mistake of choosing to compare to countries who have a much larger or smaller population than us (like the Netherlands, Iceland, etc), countries that have more resources than us (like Norway), or countries that have a completely different kind of economy to the one the SNP has envisioned for Scotland (like Ireland).

[@zlosliwa_menda]

The question is how will the European Union fare in a twenty years time?

[@sionsmedia8249]

No mention either about a possible dividing of Scotland, it is a real possibility that not all of Scotland would leave the UK, just like not all of Ireland left. The border regions and north eastern islands don't want to be taken out of the Union against their will, they have very strong Unionist sentiment there.

[@dw620]

The North East of Scotland was also in favour of Brexit despite blanket SNP propaganda from the Central Belt during that referendum and Westminster dropping the ball on providing any counter-narrative within Scotland.

[@jameslebron2403]

Are we really going to look at the disastrous partition of Ireland and say "Yes, let's do that again in Scotland"?

[@JamesHiggins1]

Almost all Scot’s I know want to remain within the U.K. The independent voice is just louder as it’s something they are after.

[@tdreamgmail]

@@jameslebron2403 It was only disastrous because one group thought it would be great to have a United Island, but the actual people living there said nope. You would be making the same mistake by ignoring the border regions and islanders.

[@TheErmerm999]

As a borderer myself who has canvassed on this issue, Indy sco vs separate remain, our data was of people intending to vote No in the event of a Scottish yes vote, 60% preferred indy vs 40% separate remain (removing a large % of don't knows) this was 2019 data and was never published. It was concluded that if a dedicated separate remain campaign was launched probably just following a yes vote. it had a pretty good chance swinging to a majority but without a campaign its unlikely, with difficulties around rural polling gathering reliable data to pressure any sort of separate remain referendum, following a yes vote, any such campaign would be very expensive and high risk. I heard similar stories from the northern islands with slightly stronger motivations due to oil but weaker numbers, and a yes side would be equally motivated.

[@crossmaster77]

Damn, The British Empire broke so hard now it is not able to held an island together.

[@crowbar9566]

For any of you non-Brits here who think this is remotely possible...it's not. And we've reached peak Nat last year and the Union will be around anther 300 years. An Rìoghachd Aonaichte gu brath

[@Pumpherstonsmith]

Quisling

[@crowbar9566]

@@Pumpherstonsmith Traitor

[@Smooy1111]

Currently both Shetland and the Orkney islands are exploring independence from Scotland and becoming Crowd Dependencies of the UK, as they have the same grievances with the Scottish government that the SNP have with Westminster. I can't imagine they'd stay with an independent Scotland (Orkney was almost 70% stay with UK) and in leaving they'd take the oil fields with them.

[@raytrevor1]

Yes, I was in Shetland last week. Lots of Shetland flags everywhere and a large Union flag on the quayside. Not a Scottish flag to be seen.

[@lmul1441]

that would be an interesting twist and a cascading mess of independences

[@josm1481]

And the same arguments blinkered Scottish Nats use can be used for Orkney's and Shetland. Edinburgh is hundreds of miles away, they've NEVER voted Labour or SNP etc. They know the SNP will be eying up their oil and gas to subsidise Glasgow, Edinburgh etc. all the UK will have to do is tax it slightly less and offer coastguards etc.

[@fuzzle9392]

If Shetland and Orkney do that they will find that they become Enclaves on Scotland's continental shelf with just 12 nautical miles of sea from their shores. Neither Orkney nor Shetland will be taking any oilfields with them, that is a fact. You should check it out, because I have had this discussion about this on quite a few occasions. It is a red herring argument based on ignorance. I cant really imagine that England or what is left of the UK would be that interested in them except perhaps to plant their nukes there. I am sure the Shetlanders would love that. Also I will point out that Orkney and Shetland both came to the UK with Scotland and whatever came to the UK with Scotland leaves with Scotland. Scotland's territory is settled. It isn't normal for a nations constituencies to just go off willy nilly. By all accounts Norway isnt interested in those islands either. They have been a part of Scotland for 500 years.

[@fuzzle9392]

@@josm1481 Orkney and Shetland will have no oil or gas as they will be classified as Enclaves on Scotland's continental shelf. Orkney and Shetland will have 12 nautical miles from their coast, nothing more, the rest will belong to Scotland. It is a standard as per international law. So if England thinks that it can get some oil by taking Orkney and Shetland they will be sorely disappointed. But they already know that, jut that the Shetlanders have not woken up to the truth of the matter yet.

[@antoniousai1989]

Scottish brothers, from a fellow independentist, GOOD LUCK! Bona sorti!

[@belltond1527]

We are much better together

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[@davegrimshaw7318]

As an Englishman i would welcome Scottish, Welsh and Irish independence..

[@rontelfer6678]

Some Englishmen are not very forward-looking. In a few years' time, it is likely that Scotland will be swamped with climate-refugees from the south.

[@davegrimshaw7318]

@@rontelfer6678 As a 60year old i don't give a F**k..

[@donaldli1864]

Sounds like the Scottish do have a reason to be independent.

[@Alan_Mac]

@@donaldli1864 I can't think of a single one - except for xenophobia.

[@davegrimshaw7318]

To clarify, i have travelled extensively across Britain, Europe and the US,I have enjoyed all countries and regions,my issue is with politics and regions, centralised government is corrupt, your local MP's should stand in parliament for the electorate and not the conglomerates that fill their pockets and offer high paid boardroom salary's after they crash and burn. Religion is just another control device for the weak who cannot understand that there is no reason for life..

[@Numba003]

I do sympathize with the Scottish and their desire to rejoin the EU. I would like to see people growing friendlier rather than more isolated. Thank you for another interesting video. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@sandersson2813]

The Scottish don't want to leave, a MINORITY of Scottish people do.

[@racheltaylor6578]

Get independence FROM England and then give it to the EU and be a small fish in an even bigger pond.

[@Numba003]

I wasn't trying to imply anything more than the fact that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in the EU during the Brexit referendum. I apologize if I overstepped.

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

Yeah, can people just get over nationalism already

[@xinzlo]

@@ASLUHLUHC3 No

[@TvehX]

"Brexit has also been a disaster for the Scottish economy ... whose effects are only now being felt" So, the effects of a vote in 2016 with immediate policy changes has taken Scotland's booming growth of 1-2%, in line with the rest of the UK and Europe, to a shockingly low 1-2% year over year, in exact line and step with the rest of the UK and Europe, with the government of Scotland estimating 1-3% growth per annum over the coming decade, which is significantly different from the 1-3% they have estimated yearly for the last three decades. Where exactly is this disaster in the numbers?

[@quartzking3997]

Brexit was only actually put into effect on the 1st January 2020, and it’s earliest economic impacts were masked by the pandemic which caused economic hardship all over the world. Now that we’re exiting the pandemic the faults of Brexit are becoming clear to see

[@TvehX]

@@quartzking3997 masked by the pandemic to match the rates seen for twenty years and pre-brexit estimates?

[@quartzking3997]

@@TvehX you can tell that to the empty shelves on your next shopping trip buddy

[@TvehX]

@@quartzking3997 Not accurate and as if that isn't the case all across the West and North American right now to the same or a worse extent.

[@quartzking3997]

@@TvehX if you think the dozen mile long queues at Dover aren’t impacting consumer logistics then you are simply delusional and it’s not worth my time talking to you