Will Tenacity KILL My Poa Annua?

[@MrFergusonLawn]

@monkeyslawncareandgardenin473 has gotten me excited this morning with his comment. Shout out to him for sharing this. New info that I'm VERY interested in, depending on the price of this product of course. Velocity PM is a new product that not only can target poa annua, but also poa triv! I hope the price is right for us home owners. Read more on it here: nufarm.com/usturf/product/velocity-pm/

[@I3arbarian]

It's not. It's going to be $500+

[@MrFergusonLawn]

@@I3arbarian If I had to guess based off the website, likely correct. I emailed the Southeast rep to get direct info and see.

[@desmorider747]

The price is $600

[@BIGLOU357]

Mr. Ferg, I have been following you since your very first video and even to this day your advice/recommendations has been on point. I live in the Hampton Roads area and my lawn is looking fabulous. So thanks and God Bless...

[@MrFergusonLawn]

I appreciate it!!

[@VBallerNole]

Thank you, this was helpful! I'm also in NC and my lawn looks like your old lawn with a ton of poa! I hate it! You've got a new follower and I look forward to watching your other content!

[@RionPhotography]

God my lawn was perfect last year and obviously I screwed something up last year cuz I have SO much poa this year. I can’t remember if I put pre emergent down in the fall or not but I can tell you I won’t forget again!

[@johnjrkean7008]

Lmao the never ending battle of poa in fescue lawn ....I noticed today my one season old front lawn (cool blue) has a bunch of lime green poa already. Its such a pest of a weed ....also were creepin on 6.5k!!! Let's go baby!! Even if I dnt win iam very happy for u brother been with u since the beginning

[@carolineboyd1825]

Since the grass in my front yard was just planted in the fall, I decided to overseed and just go after the weeds once the grass is more mature. Thanks for giving the timeframe of the best time to use the herbicides for the poa.

[@HighDesertLawns]

Man, lawn care is an exercise in patience. Some of the problems can take multiple seasons to fix. You just have to stay the course as best you can. Make the best decisions you can at the time.

[@robturner7853]

I have been using the Scotts starter fert with Meso with great success

[@davidcrowson4745]

Great information , always enjoy the content... Keeps me motivated in the lawn. Looks like a chilly week ahead of us in the Carolinas.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Thanks David, sure does. I hate the warmth leaving. Hope it comes back quick.

[@bhaycraft]

I am currently fighting Poa Annua in my GCI Cool Blue fescue. I have been mixing different herbicides trying to knock down the PA. Currently trying a mix of Sulfentrazone, Ethofumesate, Triclopyr4 , Drive XLR8. I also have Tenacity and Speed zone that I could add. Msg Pete from GCI and he figured the only products that might work would be Sulfentrazone and Ethofumesate. I would love to add the Xonerate product unfortunately that is too expensive. I am hoping the Velocity PM is a more reasonably priced thing to try. I have been putting so many ounces of each together into a backpack pump sprayer.

[@tedallen5002]

I just sprayed SpeedZone late last week to try to deal with some enter weeds and white clover which came back in areas after full renovation last fall. I have lots of Poa Annua in some areas. I just pulled up a good bit of it along the edges of a deck ramp this morning. I mowed last Tuesday and bagged to get seed heads from the taller Poa Annua and took off probably close to 6 inches of some TTTF. I may try mowing again today and lowering the mower down around 2.5” to try to collect seed heads from some of the shorter Poa Annua. I think I also have Poa Triv scattered around the lawn as well…

[@robturner7853]

Im so sore from digging stuff out yesterday 🙃

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Nice work!

[@mattb9664]

I'm giving the Green Shoots system a try and will spot kill . The 'picking it out by hand' feels like a huge waste of time compared to other lawn tasks and early spring work I could be doing. Spot killing- maybe spend an hour or so, and maybe another follow-up, and then scalp cut and rip it out two weeks later with your dethatcher (spring time only). I did use a pre emergent in mid Sept and again in early March, but I probably didn't go heavy enough out of fear of overapplication- it seems to be working on dandelions though.

[@lysawy82]

Lawn is back in business here all green here did little fert to jump start last years reno... but do see some poa will pull it out once rains will return next week... great stuff

[@TransitionZoneGuy7b]

Very timely video! I'm using the passive approach of bagging up the seed heads with my mower. This is challenging since the poa annua is close to the ground and forces me to mow lower. Definitely looking for other solutions.

[@Gettywendy]

Good morning! I enjoyed seeing the pictures of your old lawn. I planted a portion of my back yard from scratch (baby steps) last fall and a lot of the new growth this year is that long leggy grass that I see in your pictures. I’m perplexed as to whether it’s good grass or I’m afraid it’s dallas grass. I’m tempted to pull clumps out!!😖 From the looks of your lawn now I guess it’s fescue? I planted Jonathan Green blend of rescue, blue and rye. What’s your opinion? I also used tenacity when I planted which I know doesn’t prevent dallas grass. Great video as always, thank you.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Hard to tell without being there to see Wendy. You could take a picture and search for a similar look online. That’s what I’ve done at times. Thanks for watching!

[@HikingwithTurtle]

Thank you for the information, Mr. Ferguson. Have a blessed day 🙏🏽

[@aaroncogginslawn]

Great information! My back yard looks like yours did when you started full of poe at least over half. I'm bagging all mows and just pulling when I can, then just let it die out. Then, I will use the poa constrictor when I seed this this September.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

🙌🏼 Good strat!

[@MrKevinH]

Great information. I fear the Velocity PM may be priced similar to Anuew which is outside most homeowner's budgets.

[@myintuition2011]

My sod wasn't put down until early November of 2023, and I realized that it was infested with poa in February. I used the green top Image and waited for it to start dying, then hand pulled around 6000 square feet of it. I have a reminder set for the last week of August to put down pre emergent.

[@OldThunderCat]

Super glad I found this vid. Here I am thinking I have poa when in fact it’s barn yard grass from the hay they used after the leveling. Thanks sire!!!!

[@stephenwilliams6349]

I love the way that you slowed down the video for the people in the back😂😂😂

[@johnjrkean7008]

The Ferginator!! I did my front lawn last fall cool blue from dirt I just walked out today n keep seeing seeds upon clower look iam littered with poa annua it's all over 🤯🤯🤯 I thought it was Kentucky blue due to the blades being darker but no its annua uugghh tenacity time I guess

[@johnjrkean7008]

Didnt realize I commented already lol oops sorry brother haha

[@ferraridan4883]

Great video. Tenacity not to be used in Bermuda however,

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Yes, we specifically say that at the 9:30 mark of the video.

[@crystalkenney-blevins5855]

18:52 I need help! I need a guide to what to research this summer. Currently I have a front lawn that is probably 75% poa annual and the rest is a mixture of unknown grass type and by mixture I mean multiple kinds of grass has been seeded into this lawn. Then there is the back yard which is all dirt! In spring of last year I killed the ground so to speak as it was all weeds and now I’m ready to plant grass but want to do it the current way. Please help! 🧐

[@MrFergusonLawn]

I was right where you are when I started in 2019 (check out the old videos, though they do kinda suck). First key step is to get on a lawn care plan. I recommend Lawn Care Nut or GCI Turf. It’s a digital download. Read that through and it will help with 90% of your questions. If you want to do fescue or a cool season grass, fall is best time to do that. For a warm season like Bermuda, it’s around now. So get the appropriate plan and start there. Hope this gets you started.

[@TheObserver567]

Wow. Had no idea i had to do pre emergent in the fall! Been doing it wrong. Explains my failure. The product IMAGE works good as post emergent but takes a while.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

You have the fall options, but if you must overseed, don't do pre emergent. It's kind of that one or the other scenario. I chose pre emergent over overseeding the past two years. This year, back to thickening up with more seed.

[@bug512]

Great video, yep, I have it also. This video really explained the cycle of the poa. Thank you.

[@OOOOOO12345]

Can you use Tenacity on rye grass???? I can’t find this answer anywhere. Fescue grass, yes. Rye, I can’t find if it’s okay.

[@bubba_lynn_crude]

Haircut's looking sharp!

[@MrFergusonLawn]

😂 thanks!

[@crystalkenney-blevins5855]

Thanks!

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Crystal! Wow, thanks so much for your generosity. I hope the video helped(helps) you out! So kind of you!

[@robturner7853]

got it down to 3" and WoW!!!

[@Really10801]

I tried Tenacity, it also turned my TTTF white, for a solid month, it looked worse than the Poa Annua, won't do that again. Imagine if someone were able to develop a heat / drought resistant variety of Poa Annua... it would render most other turf grasses unnecessary, no more overseeding, just plant it and it rejuvenates every year... that would be a dream grass!

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Yes, absolutely one of the cons of this herbicide. One reason I rarely even apply it.

[@nATHAN-rk9hf]

Its coming up on fall here in central VA. Can i overseed in late august / early September and then do pre emergent after the grass comes up in mid September / early Oct?

[@nealwhite1474]

To me Poa Annua is pretty easy to control in my opinion. I had a large amount of it in my lawn years ago. I hit it with Roundup and then over seeded which took care of that problem. If it wasn't for those ugly seed heads it could be easy to ignore until it dies out in the summer. My wife often reminds me that weeds are like sin. Great vid!

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Haha, and yes, good point. You can go the round up route if that's what you like. Thanks Neal!

[@gregjones3660]

The question is: Does round up kill sinners?

[@floydhilburnjr.7752]

FYI, I recently viewed one of Pete's (GCI Turf) video's and he did a mix of Exonerate, Poa Constrictor & Tenacity. He said he had pretty good results with it and the Poa became crispy. However, he did not say it killed it!I It showed in the video as well. I do not remember if the application was during summer which I think would make it more effective. Weeds, always a challenge! God Bless.

[@bhaycraft]

The Xonerate product is like 700 bucks on Amazon! Ouch

[@mtyl27]

To combat POA A, I went down with an app of the etho 4sc (half rate) this past fall on top of TTTF overseeding along with a granular starter fert with mesotrione. The label for the etho 4sc says you can apply at the same time as overseeding. This combination significantly suppressed the germination of my TTTF. I overseeded and applied the same granular fert with mesotrione on my neighbors yard and they experienced no delay in germination. After a couple of weeks of little to no germination I ended up renting a detacher/scarifier to break up the soil. I then raked up all the debris and the re-applied seed, which ended up resulting in less than ideal germination results and a lot of additional effort and cost. Anyone have any experience with running etho 4sc and mesotrione in the fall for TTTF and have any tips/suggestions for timing and rates?

[@MrFergusonLawn]

I've not went there yet, but will be doing similar apps in the fall. I know Tenacity can kill or stun fine fescues, but shouldn't hurt any tttf. Interesting.

[@stevenle1760]

I don't like Tenacity in my tall fescue lawn because it benches it white for a few weeks.

[@wcovey25]

Try Anuew PGR

[@tyuhles]

Love your channel! Have you ever thought about taking a weed torch to the poa, and then over seed? I used round up on it before but it takes like 2.3 weeks before you can over seed. with the torch, it could be gone instantly and then thrown some seed?

[@kr5289]

Since the label says do not use on Bermuda could I spray it on my Bermuda to get rid of it, you think it would kill it out.

[@wcovey25]

You have way better options for Bermuda, look at Ron Henry’s videos on it

[@kr5289]

@@wcovey25 ok thank you

[@GRASShole21]

6.48k!! That poa to fescue transformation is insane

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Sure was. Blew my mind and my wife lol.

[@stevepawlick2051]

Will a granulated mesotrione do the same as tenacity to help suppress it!?

[@keithmcilwaine4921]

Charlotte, NC here…POA’s everywhere in my front yard.. gonna leave it alone. I over-seeded with GCI spreader elite. I’ve noticed fescue spreading… hoping it feels in dead spots from POA.

[@gregjones3660]

Please let us know of the results of your lawn this day.

[@patyates5238]

Good information, thank you.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Thanks for watching!

[@81carters]

Image red label or Negate can kill poa. Also here in NC.

[@gregjones3660]

To what effect please good sir/maam?

[@NyTonyF]

Thank you for the great info as always. Once Velocity PM is available I’m sure it’s going to fly off the shelves regardless of the price. 😂

[@MrFergusonLawn]

It's possible...but that price point will matter! Regardless, you are right, it's nice that something exists to fight this mess.

[@monkeyslawncareandgardenin473]

IT’S BACK!!!!!! The only proven herbicide Velocity PM will knock out Poa triv, and annual bluegrass out of cool season lawns. May not be good for Bluegrass lawns. Must spot spray the Bluegrass to test. Blanket spray is what is recommended.

[@MrFergusonLawn]

I’ll have to check this out. Thanks!

[@monkeyslawncareandgardenin473]

@@MrFergusonLawn absolutely, Fescue Freaks Olee Poole had the Herbicide maker on his show two weeks ago. May come out to distributors this week.

[@MRM5J]

It's $533 per bottle wanna split it?

[@webmoore4353]

Not doubting but most of those seed heads look like KBG

[@MrFergusonLawn]

Maybe some, but it was a mix of poa and kgb

[@As-vt2ds]

Tenacity explained @6:51

[@bobadams1696]

Please change your wording. Saying “deal with it” and “dealing with it” seems to mean you have a method to address the weeds. After watching the video full video I realized you meant a person can be patient.

[@simplelangperorock]

10:10 lmao

[@mikebrown8180]

i Gave you a thumbs down for the slow down video section, Not everyone is an idiot.