Will The Dawning 2024 be the wake up call that Bungie needs?

[@bootstrap925]

if this is a wake up call, bungie has hit snooze at least 10 times and has now missed an exam

[@GainingDespair]

First time? 2017 "We really need to win back players trust" 2018 "We really need to win back players trust" 2019 "We really need to win back players trust" 2020 "We really need to win back players trust" 2021 "We really need to win back players trust" 2022 "We really need to win back players trust" 2023 "We really need to win back players trust" 2024 "We really need to win back players trust"

[@Ares180BPM]

I swear it's their ACTUAL in house studio motto. 😅

[@ARavingLobster]

And each time we lose players and now it's gone on so long... I mean. There aren't going to be many more players left to loose...

[@Cashmoneyx]

Sound like Your game suck

[@GainingDespair]

@EloyBushida Yeah down to 4 hours every two weeks at this point. Can't even justify the seasonal content at my play time anymore.

[@miksershow4094]

This community is beyond pathetic honestly

[@theholyduck7329]

They had 500 wake up calls lol

[@awesomeguy9513]

They had 500 at the start of this episode, it’s I think been the buggiest one we’ve had

[@Ares180BPM]

...and that's only this year!

[@TheXelum]

And it changed nothing.

[@fayyazsarwar1161]

They've hit snooze on nearly each one lmao

[@DarkCynder]

Don't worry they got fan devs!🫠🙃

[@GeremyG]

It’s totally fine guys, DMG said that they’re working to re-earn the players trust… again… for like the 7th or 8th time. No shade on DMG but how many times have we been in this exact same situation?

[@flameguy3416]

I thought DMG left bungie?

[@Grassdia]

@@flameguy3416 he's back

[@Mr_Ruhl]

​@@Grassdiapoor guy...😢

[@Guile_The_Exile]

​@@Mr_RuhlHe chose to comeback wdym ☠️☠️☠️

[@OhJase]

@@flameguy3416 My memory is shot but didn't he leave around the time Destiny was at its lowest and he had that thing with Riot? Then came back when that didn't work out and everyone loved TFS?

[@Dtjgfft]

When Larian CEO Swen Vincke used his platform at the TGA last night to attack game companies that disrespect employees and try to exploit gamers and said that respecting players would lead to players being lenient when game companies mess up in the future, bungie started freaking out, covered their ears, ran to a corner, and started yelling.

[@elseggs6504]

Tbf it kind of applied to Bungie. Think of it this way: a downright historically stupid move was made to basically turn your arsenal useless and remove half the game, including paid content. Destinys most successful period came right after, with Witchqueen. I think what really happened is that Destiny simply cant outdo the bad shit they do time and again. For the first time in ages people are looking at the Destiny that is, not the Destiny that might be.

[@TLP607]

It’s probably going to end up on deaf ears anyway.

[@Quantum_Magnus]

I get the message, but I found it super ironic that he said the best games are those who are made for the people and not for the money, but the trailer they revealed for their game was littered with product placement lol.

[@greatwhite3602]

@@Quantum_Magnusthat was naughty dogs game not larians lol

[@NinaFaenation]

@@elseggs6504 It's simple for Bungie, they can look like some big hero finally doing a sensible thing ages after the fact because people are so starved from the game being so assbackwards and broken. The fact Destiny shipped with no comms or ingame LFG and then throws in all this cooperative content is insane and if D1 released new in 2024 as it did 10 years back, we wouldn't be talking about Destiny right now. Bungie had the benefit of the time they released the game in but people over time either tolerated the crap factor or bailed because they can't deal with the nonsensical game design and still major lack in care for even simple stuff.

[@mutantraze3681]

Its painfully obvious how important those QA testers were. The buggiest season by far where even the seasonal event with little no to changes somehow is bugged

[@elseggs6504]

QA is the entire group has to actively contribute in. Its not like "oh let the audio guy do the audio stuff" All it takes is a shit leader to ruin it all

[@Dac85]

There's a reason QA is present in basically every industry that makes a product. When mistakes gets made they damage the brand, and it ends up costing WAY more in lost business than it would to keep the QA team. Like, if Bungie could pay whatever it would have cost in testers to make the bad press go away and get their customers lost to getting fed up with these bugs back, they would do so in an instant. But it was someone's job somewhere to make a spreadsheet look good for a quarter, I guess, totally ignoring sustainability and long-term value.

[@elegy8187]

Absolutely, ever since those layoffs the game has experienced so many bugs. I’ll give the weapon perk bug a pass since it seems like that was in the game since possibly Forsaken, but there has been so many error codes, tonics dropping the wrong weapons, shadowshot STILL being disabled in the dungeon, mask of fealty not doing what its description said it does when it came out, and these were all from this episode!

[@Parallelocam]

I don't even think QA could help much, some of these issues are literally just the devs being careless. Misspellings, using wrong things in seasonal challenges, using placeholder images and not replacing them... yeah QA can catch it but why are so many little things even ending up falling through the cracks. People aren't checking their work properly

[@Parallelocam]

@@Dac85 I'm fairly certain I read Bungie was outsourcing QA to another country, to a team who didn't even know the basics of the game - and this was not that long ago. So it's not like they were even the right people for the job

[@oceanheads5304]

The only wake-up call that I want is you whispering in my ear, Datto.

[@terezii]

on GOD

[@Meme_dad1]

Gigitty

[@alienduck2]

With the raid guide music playing in the background

[@POSSIBLYurFATHER]

Coined the term " In and out like a demons whisper"

[@bjcooper4365]

🤨

[@JimmyYYK9241]

How many wake up calls do we have to give them before we realize they are pretending to be asleep and you cannot wake up someone who's pretending to sleep.

[@SpikePBB]

Totally missed out on the title - 'The good, the bad & the bugly' 😜

[@mrnoah8447]

Or the good, the bad, and the crumbly

[@TheTruthDragonNJ09]

Bungie doesn't care enough about these yearly events to update Petra Venj's cookie to say "Dreaming City" instead of "The Reef" which is a place that's been long gone from the game.

[@Golet234-2]

wasn't the dreaming city on the reef?

[@toadallyawful]

dude it took them months to change the engram tracker's "Vangaurd" misspelling they do not gaf

[@elseggs6504]

​@@toadallyawfulJustice for van Gourd!

[@TheTruthDragonNJ09]

@@Golet234-2 - No, it was a separate location away from the reef.

[@XDieKillDieX]

​@@TheTruthDragonNJ09No, the Dreaming City is in the Reef. It's on Vestia, which is a dwarf planet in the asteroid belt, aka, the Reef.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

The wakeup call will be when sony takesover bungie. Bungie has had a "low point" every year and nothing changes.

[@urazz7739]

Before Lightfall, they were able to bring things back up to only have people leave temporarily, but at this point they really aren't able to bring things back up to those levels and a lot of people have permanently checked out.

[@Boomerangofjustice]

I remember in a past Dawning, there was cute little quest where you gathered Cabal Ceremonial Wine as a Gift to Caitl, or made treats for Eliksni Hatchlings with Saint-14. It was a just a few menial tasks and walls of text, but at least it was an event that had some grounding in the changing universe. The Cabal were barely uneasy allies at the time and giving them a gift felt a little meaningful, helping Saint-14 do some good for the Eliksni in the city felt fun too after Season of the Splicer. We don't even get the walls of text anymore, and its such a huge missed opportunity for some really charming world and character building.

[@grzegorzflorek5623]

Yup, at least those quests were providing a bit of worldbuilding. Now? Not so much...

[@Animegamer0709]

@grzegorzflorek5623 unrelated post to the original poster but related to events in general. I miss the solstice event where we had to wear the armor and complete challenges to upgrade the armor from like blue to purple, then upgrading to get the glows. I had more fun doing that then the solstice we have now with the armor. You don't need to wear the armor to get the glows now. Keep the weapons system we currently use for solstice but revert the armor to the upgrading armor system by wearing it

[@henram36]

Riven was my favorite to deliver a cookie to. When your gift could get you wiped if you hung around too long.

[@happystate2480]

@@henram36 I remember doing that, I had never been in the Last Wish raid before looked up the wish wall guide got to Riven. Looked up at a giant arse dragon, umm here's your cookie then dead lol.

[@Mattblaze1477]

Well thats what happens when your lazy and dumb, which Bungie now is.

[@stephrightup]

Narrator: It will not.

[@theangrywig3905]

Short summary: no. 5 more expensive cars, pronto.

[@athena3177]

The last 3 months of Destiny has been great for me. Good chance to catch up on other games that I've wanted to play instead without feeling like I'm missing anything in Destiny

[@roohni2226]

Sounds like a full break from the game would do you wonders lol.

[@Alex-pq2fv]

@@roohni2226 you missed the sarcasm which stated that's exactly what they're doing

[@roohni2226]

@@Alex-pq2fv yea i know, was just saying it was great for me :D

[@findthereal12]

Since we're talking about bugs, I'd like to remind everyone that the Pale Heart location is still bugged and frequently giving people Guitar error codes. This affects every single activity on the destination, from basic Story Missions to Overthrows and GM Excision. I don't think they have a date for a fix yet either.

[@kingjezza6567]

I’ve given up on The Pale Heart.. it’s weird and kinda boring being the only Guardian there….. i know you can match make in but that feels different…

[@CGR1410]

It’s like, how can you mess up a minor micro-transaction based event you urselves refused to change for the past 6 years. You’d expect some type of “security” for something like this with everything going on. Like: “okay everything’s been bugged but hey at least the dawning is here! no way they mess that up cuz they refuse to even change it in any way!” But… no. Even the most mediocre parts of the game are affected by this bs. I don’t mind if Sony swallows up this game/company. At least then it’ll HAVE the resources to BE bad. Rather than be bad because of no resources.

[@Parallelocam]

They're being outclassed by F2P games at this point (I still don't consider D2 F2P but that's just me lol) Who knows if hiring more people will even make a difference. Their engine is literally 20 years old, they only still use it bc the current devs can't figure out what the old devs did to make it feel so smooth. Halo 1 came out when I was in middle school and they're still on that engine despite almost every other AAA developer having upgraded engines multiple times in that time frame They're lucky nobody is trying to be direct competition because they would fold if anyone ever did. First Descendant was close but also not close.

[@groxx715]

No it won't. People no longer spending money on it will be the wake up call.

[@omarlocke4351]

the state of the game is a direct result of datto’s feedback over the long term. you asked for it, dato. you own it.

[@rickijay12]

To save 13min of yapping, no it isn't a wake up call. Event is basically the same. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[@flameguy3416]

I found an alternative method for farming essence. Just do lost sectors where you can immediately get to the boss to kill to open the chest and where you can swiftly reload the lost sector. Regular lost sectors completions (chest openings) grant 3 essence. If you average out a strike to about 10 minutes, this method is still better, since some lost sectors can be done in under a minute (including reloading of the lost sector location so that the boss respawns), which would grant 30 essence in 10 minutes. Absolutely not better than checkpoint farming, but good if you're completely solo.

[@Mr_Ruhl]

What ones do you suggest?

[@_SP259]

But is fundamentally the same as checkpoint farming just with a different locale. Still boring. Like he said. Other game content would need to be more rewarding

[@Fish-nx3gt]

@@Mr_Ruhl i think most edz lost sectors should work atleast those near devrim

[@ilrvwylol]

terminus east is the fastest by far. eager edge past all the ads and 12p the boss, grab chest and eager edge back out. 30ish seconds in and out

[@DJTyme209]

the one in the esz, trostland in the church takes less than a minute to complete ​@@Mr_Ruhl

[@saithvenomdrone]

The wake up call I'd like to see is a double call. One, I wish the community could live with themselves not having something new every few months. Two, I wish Bungie stopped doing seasons altogether and just put full effort in huge expansions rather than just okay expansions with seasons to fill out the rest of the year.

[@zacharybecker8228]

im with u but sadly will never happen

[@seigmyrethegamer4584]

dude you can stop playing destiny there's no expansions being made for this. They have to dripfeed you guys crumbs to even stay afloat anymore.

[@johnsmithson4479]

It’s not about the community being able to live with no content. It’s about Bungie not being able to afford that loss in player income. They’ve done this to themselves.

[@Parallelocam]

It's clear video games were not meant to go on this long. Everyone will always cite WoW but that's an anomaly and a kingpin. They really should consider giving up on being so adamant about keeping people playing every week. It's not like the expansions are selling well to justify the logic of "well they might not come back", and also it's not like they'll just magically spend money if they play every week. They're not adapting to a changing industry, they're just imitating what the juggernauts like cod do. Sony leaders need to grow a spine, find a way to get Pete out of there, and instill one of their own people at the helm with some of that 3 billion dollars straight injected into hiring staff in key positions. It's the only way forward for this game. The devs told us to trust them 6 months ago, and all we've gotten is slop since. Why should we believe a word any of them say

[@Joemama-xw2wy]

They’re moving away from the big expansion model for a reason; it’s too much effort for how much money they get in return. Seasons are so much easier to do. A few cutscenes, reskin weapon models, text walls and an artifact.

[@Hugh_Jas]

Bungie: "we've heard your feedback and have disabled checkpoints in all activities."

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

They've had too many wake-up calls by now to not know what they're doing

[@InTheMistByTheHills]

The year is 2017 and Bungie says "we need to win back players trust" The year is 2024 and Bungie says "we need to win back the players trust"

[@zerillisguren7720]

Short answer: They didn't learn the first time, why the fuck would they want to learn the 2nd time around?

[@ThePresidentofMars]

Dont you mean the nth time

[@zerillisguren7720]

@ThePresidentofMars yes, we've gone through this shit so many times, they all kind of melded into like 3 instances for me.

[@flameguy3416]

On the furnace UI, you can actually see your bounties by pressing left arrow (right D-Pad). Makes it much easier.

[@HDDVD-ROM]

I'm not even trying to be a dick, but I am genuinely amazed that people still play this game and there is still coverage on it.

[@ronark4933]

I’m amazed that people have been bitching about it since its launch and still play it regardless.

[@callmeshaggy5166]

@@ronark4933 looking at the player populations it doesn't look like they hold on to any new players. All anyone has to do is just Google "bungie" and get the past 5 years of horrific failure since getting kicked out of the house by Activision. Along with all those pesky illegal & immoral workplace practices. Believe it or not it is possible to like Destiny and what it could've been by now whilst simultaneously disliking Bungie and the direction (into the ground) they've driven this game.

[@KamikazePhil]

Every single reset my oven resets to only let me bake gjallardoodles and I have to do the 10 minute quest to start getting ingredients. It also resets my memento quest which now doesn’t track any snowball kills even though I only have a single upgrade

[@-Pistola]

How did you start getting ingredients again?

[@Dac85]

As if this wasn't the obvious way things were going to go when they laid off their QA. I'm actually kind of shocked Sony didn't step in to nix that idea, because all this is doing is devaluing their investment.

[@Parallelocam]

I still want to know how 3 billion dollar buyout turns into half the team getting axed and the game getting worse. If they're betting that heavily on Marathon, something tells me some Sony executives will get the axe in the near future when that bombs

[@FAUXCUSpd]

i’m pretty sure we literally had this exact conversation back during season of the plunder. anyone remember how buggy that season was? it was plagued with server issues and bad bugs. the higher ups at bungie never learn.

[@fotis3v480]

Plunder was fun at least.

[@tysonkrunek8557]

Bungie puts the effort into holidays that Dato puts into hunting new weapons as the drop, as little as possible if they can get away with not.

[@MrTmm97]

Watch Bungie take the worst possible point from this video and finally find a way to nerf checkpoints without buffing the essence rewards everywhere else….

[@magetsalive5162]

Some things are significantly simpler to fix, we all get it. It's just that it _really looks bad_ when the easiest things to fix are *the ones that directly impact the game's ability to suck up the playerbase's money,* and the harder things to fix are *the ones that impact the gameplay itself.* But I'm just reiterating things practically everyone before me has already said.

[@ThePresidentofMars]

Even if its the opposite, with the insane amount of bugs, they should just ignore the bugs that help us and focus on the ones that hurt us

[@zackphy]

3:27 that's the issue though, due to how they released story content this time there ISN'T anything to be doing to earn indredients, and most importantly essence, in the background. In prior years we'd have some story or other content to be doing so it worked as intended in the background. This Episode though besides the weekly challanges(that we're leaving unclaimed for Act 3) there's litterly nothing to do as most of us already have all the rolls we wanted(we only got 3 new weapons this Act) and have guilded everything so we're having to go play stuff JUST for Dawning mats and it's the most monotonous boring grind ever. And the fact we don't get a gift per cookie is ridiculous, if we did essence gains would be fine. If we had a unique activity to earn rewards on top of focusing and a gift per cookie it would be a great holiday activity imo.

[@sihiz4179]

I'll be honest.. I haven't even started playing this season..

[@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord]

THEN WHY TF YOU HERE

[@prdvt]

I didn't finish last season nor got this one, I do plan on getting the next one because the concept sounds cool to me.

[@BigMamaLils]

i haven't been playing the game since Episode 1 Act 2 lol im just here cause i like watching Datto play this subpar game

[@milzhere]

​@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLordwhy so mad?

[@Waxedem9199]

It’s a good season without the bugs lol crazy damage potential but the bugs are ruining everything

[@generalnawaki]

I wont lie the bug I have is that the weapons just aren't dropping and it took the last bit of wind out of my sails.

[@buzzfightbeer8023]

I literally still cannot get passed the intro quest on any character. All because I had the nerve to quickly login after the update, grabbed the quest on all 3 characters, and completed the Zavala gift on all. When they froze progression, they completely screwed me. I'm super bummed that it has been 5 days and nothing. Fuck this.

[@Parallelocam]

You're not missing anything but a new linear fusion, and nobody's using linear fusions until they get a serious buff again. The rest is all complete filler content that serves little to no point. You'll live lol

[@-Pistola]

So your stuck not getting ingredients too and not being able to craft any gifts for Zavala on all 3? Have you been able to fix it I’m locked in 1 step but can’t complete cuz not getting any ingredients…..total bummer

[@random75491]

Strikes should drop ONE HUNDRED essence. The amount of gifts you get per essence is miniscule, even with hours of grinding. We're climbing mountains for crumbs.

[@adarkwind4712]

Give 2 essence per wave completed of onslaught and 5 for legend onslaught.

[@mortison7]

this is just our first moment of true fatigue, before we always coped or had something, but now the apathy has set in. i truly believe the ten year plan part of destiny was the only reason people stayed now

[@davidennis9623]

I think the easy fix for CP farming, though I’m sure the “Bungie hates players” crowd would get real load about it, would be to increase the strike/GM awards by a bit, but then make it so dungeon bosses only award their full amount if you beat all encounters in the dungeon during that instance run. Otherwise it would be an amount some fraction of the full reward based on number of encounters cleared.

[@lukesmith4698]

I may or may not be paying some employees to sabotage the game as revenge for firing me.

[@Parallelocam]

mind ur business ewok

[@claudvigilante]

Short answer: "No." Long answer: "Noooooooooooooo."

[@snottytoe6957]

The holiday events just feel like they found the formula that makes them the most money and stuck with it.

[@Deeper489]

No as a matter of fact Pete is going to by an all terrain sleigh

[@agathor2017]

As long as the dawning does not force you to wear a certain armor piece to earn any rewards, it will be my favorite event

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

You were never forced to wear any set of armor to get rewards. Seasonal armor increases rep gain, same as iron banner armor, and pretty much every other armor perk of its kind

[@agathor2017]

@The_Ragequit_Cannon ...what? guardian games makes you wear the class item to get the medals. Solstice makes you wear the entire set to convert the ash into leaves, and festival of the lost makes you wear the mask to get candy. If you don't wear the armor you don't get any of the event currency

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

@@agathor2017 You don't need to wear solstice armor to get the drops that pop out of the bonfire

[@flameguy3416]

*wear this 49 point armor to get maximum rewards!*

[@NoSmoke1]

@@The_Ragequit_Cannon what about the other events they listed?

[@David-rh3er]

At a certain point there's like this critical balance between grinding and being handed loot for free where it honestly decentivizes me from even attempting a grind in the first place. With games like poe2 out rn and time restrictions in general, I honestly can't justify doing mindless cp farming for the amount of hours needed to get the rolls I want (I love the grind), especially with how mind numbing it is. If Bungie actually want people to come back for the event they REALLY need to either make the activity worth running for the fun-factor, or make the grind reasonable enough so if I end up dropping like 8 hours grinding I actually get all the rolls I want.

[@Wood-Block707]

Bungie forgetting to enable the events pay wall is hilarious!!!

[@muovikallo]

It's a wake up call but they will hit the snooze, like always.

[@PickleNick46]

What’s extremely sad is these suggestions, outside of bugs, can all be fixed by tomorrow. It’s not difficult. But due to the man power they won’t make any changes for us. Such a shame man, I love Destiny so much and really don’t want to give it up

[@thenamesronni]

Same :/

[@jawshoeadan]

This is the third time bungie has had to “reearn player trust this year”

[@EternalFount]

Can we get the people responsible for the core gameplay onto another project and away from whoever makes decisions? Just imagine Destiny's gunplay and ability loop literary anywhere else.

[@ProbablyCheddar]

Farming in patrol can yield a lot of essence. Patrols, lost sectors, and public events award essence. Just farm ingredients for the bounties you need in the patrol zone with the vendor. Complete the bounty then go to orbit and get another. You always have enough essence to bake the cookies as you go. Bonus is turning in gifts as you go.

[@Boopity7739]

Yeah Datto they’ll totally change this time just one more major screwup and they’ll improve!!

[@bradleyzdroik7237]

really wish it was something like: amount of essence determined by time spent in that activity, multiplied by a difficulty modifier. Run into AFK issues but at least it might balance the active paths to currency.

[@TheBen69]

Tbh I see nothing changing. The people in charge have made it clear they have zero intention of actually changing course ever.

[@fixmastermike913]

Glad you said it. I’m not a checkpoint farmer and the amount of time required to get a focused weapon any other way is too much. As a result, I’m not playing. I’d recommend changing ritual and seasonal activity drops to include Dawning weapons

[@bretpop99]

What I'd need to even touch the dawn at this point is to triple or quadruple the essence drops from seasonal and strike, gambit, crucible. Also, have finishing those activities grants a random bundle of ingredients 10 to 30 or something close.

[@JPOG7TV]

A wake up call after firing half your work force and bleeding money is very optimistic

[@TheStevec91]

Ive made close to 1k cookies over my last 10 years playing but the fact that everyone on day one got the paid pass for free makes me want 2 get the dragon armor for beight dust and thats it

[@Commander_Pika]

I agree that that event currencies should be increased, but just increasing them (or rebalancing them) won't solve everything. How it is currently set up is based on time-commitment and difficulty/"endgame". The problem is that the scale isn't that high (like you side, GMs only give 4 more than normal strikes) AND Raid/Dungeons count with checkpoints. However, unless you neuter RADs - which isn't really good since it is an "endgame" activity - you'd have to super buff everything else. Because some RAD encounters can be completed in ~1 minute, you can't reasonably rebalance the economy as you have to use that as the measuring stick - which then punishes people doing full clears or slower encounters even more. If RADs checkpoints are still going to give currency, they have to be the least efficient at it to promote players playing the core playlists. So 2-4x all non-RAD sources and rebalance the economy, or require 3 encounter completions to get the RAD payout (so that you could still cp farm or do a full clear of any RAD). CP farming will still be a top option, but you really can't do much. I think about the in-game economy a lot, as there a lot of moving parts and the "solution" people like to propose don't usually address all the problems or the underlying causes.

[@snoman1355]

I hope this is their wake up call, someone just asked me what my favorite game is, and I unfortunately couldn’t bring myself to say destiny.

[@DarkPyroZero]

Yeah they need to make these event weapons drop from just casual play, especially given that the ingredients are bugged and not dropping properly so it's not nearly as easy to get the weapons from the way they have it now.

[@Arunatic]

Missed the chance to title the video: "The good, the bad, and the Dawning 2024"

[@SamEy3Am]

PSA: The wings on the dragon armor flap when you are jumping through the air (at least on warlock)

[@patrickjackson1989]

This is the spider man meme with jonah jammison laughing 😅

[@RAWKKC]

Haven’t played in over a year, logged on for the first time last night to buy the armor and logged off, it’s been great, don’t think I’ll even log back on again.

[@NoThanksChief]

Just been playing POE 2 instead. Best decision I've made. GGG actually respects players.

[@doublevision1126]

One of the things I have been doing the last 2 days was farming the expert lost sectors on the throne world as I could clear them in less then 5 minutes by myself and from finishing would get around 20 essence not counting drops from enemies

[@sethchristensen3570]

Destiny 1 events were always so special, whether it be reprised strikes, SRL, new exotics, strike scoring, etc. I understand it doesnt profit as much as Bungie stated, but its the love that made them so special

[@siggiboyy]

I think the only "fix" to CP farm is either make the dungeon or raid give you essence based on how many encounters you clear in one run or as you say in the video make everything else be way more rewarding

[@firstnamelastname4752]

I unlocked a bunch of bake cookies event triumphs, like the 10 cookies, 20 cookies etc. in fact I unlocked all of them, except the 50, which claims I have cooked 0/50 cookies. I have cooked 1 cookie, once, for Zavala.

[@TheMadScorpyon]

To be fair things getting buggy this time of year makes some sense. Usually Bungo allegedly has most of the staff taking holiday time for like 2 weeks leaving skeleton crews to monitor the state of D2. They haven't mentioned in TWIDs like usual that they have taken the holiday break so not 100% sure they have tho.

[@InfernoPhilM]

I can’t make cookies. I can’t collect materials.

[@eggroll1777]

the event currency rewards for checkpoint completions seem to be balanced around full runs of the raid/dungeon/story mission i.e. ~60 total essence for a 30-60 minute raid or dungeon or campaign mission perhaps they can award that amount as a lump sum for completing the whole activity without leaving the instance, like how solo triumphs work, and that’ll, at least, make the awards feel fairer per time spent playing the game

[@SirDakk]

Bungie, whenever you are deciding how much of whatever players get after finishing a thing your number is always wrong. Triple it and you are almost at an ok number. Please stop disrespecting our time.

[@reppity]

totally off-topic but what ship is the gang all using at 6:09?

[@zachstinnett5475]

Season 12 ship that lets you get extra dawning mats. If you don't have eva sells it I believe

[@zachstinnett5475]

Stat farer 7m

[@reppity]

@@zachstinnett5475 my goat. thanks bro

[@WorkingWoman-r2w]

Will *insert bad thing that players don't like here* finally be the wake up call that Bungie needs?

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

I don't think they actually have the staff to stop this bug cascade. Never thought i'd see this from Bungie.

[@dankerbell]

i nearly went all-in on mistral lift farming but i just randomly tried marvel rivals and uhh... i think i'll just be doing that this whole dawning, at least mistral will be back next year, if contest or onslaught rewarded good essence maybe i'd've considered it to double dip on drops i wanted

[@drfeelgood321]

DUDE look I know that you are trying to help BUT these problems are all from the Active vision days of WE MUST WAIST AS MUCH OF THEIR TIME AS POSSIBLE NOT GETTING WHAT THEY WANT its like a bylaw its not going to change to improve the situation in any way

[@taylorhill5444]

Maybe we could just make it time based. Like, if they’ve already fixed AFK farming, then scale rewards by the difficulty of an activity. If a regular strike takes you 10 minutes, you get 20. If a GM takes you 10 minutes, you get 60.

[@dtps_champion6016]

I can't do anything my question bugged and I can't drop it

[@chrisb2543]

They still say Petra Venj is in the reef, was she ever in the reef in this game, she is at dreaming city

[@ThePresidentofMars]

Spider was the reef vendor so no

[@jyapp4489]

They've had the feedback of activities that are harder OR take longer should give more essence for YEARS. Not implementing that at this point has to be a design decision at this point.

[@dragonridernate2770]

Short Answer: No. There explanation that they “Missed the Mark” is literally copy paste of a fake-ass Apology. And there excuse of some bugs are easier to fix then others, although true in some cases, doesn’t change the fact that money to them comes first before the player, is downright disrespectful and scummy.

[@random75491]

The vanguard emblems are actually really cool. No one has really mentioned them. They come from random gift openings.

[@CheesyCobra]

Playing other games and jumping in later after bugs are addressed has worked out pretty well for me

[@derekdumbeck5077]

Reall feels like this bugged event is just the culmination of all the other bugs. Can’t create tonics on my titan due to bug, the tonics don’t focus weapons they are supposed to due to bug, the weapon rolls I want aren’t dropping to due to bug. It’s just painful at this point. I’m gonna play heresy since I bought year pass with final shape. But I’m gonna wait and see how the next saga starts before buying in again. Sad, this game is so much fun and has so much further potential to just be run into the ground like this. It’s just sad.

[@chloriander]

I think the worst part of the event is the low rate of gift in return drops (20 % ??) and how the boons work. I'm at a point where I'm only chasing the emblems but to be able to get them I first need ingredients, then hope that I get a gift in return and then lean on the 1 % (or whatever it is) chance of an emblem dropping. They should have made it so that boons lasted for a day, so that you could get atleast one gift per strike and let us know exactly how much the drop rate of emblems will increase the following weeks - because as of now it's dicey to use anything. I'm not even sure if the gifts in return I'm getting this week have a locked in drop rate on emblems or if they're worth saving for next week. It's always a freaking guessing game with Bungie and it makes things extremely boring and pointless.

[@Mikeflyforever]

11:05 you guys nuked the boss in like 3 seconds 😂😂😂 damn I love shattered throne 😂

[@navdeepsingh3508]

My oven is broken on every char and event is unplayable now 😂.

[@silverstar5769]

Every time I watch one of these videos, I'm more and more glad I stopped playing this year from how fucked everything sounds like it's been. Hopefully they get it together for Apollo, but at this point I doubt it

[@guitosilva5055]

Guys. Pro tip! You didn't hear it from me. Just get the dawning ship, farm the weekly "In the Deep" mission on the moon and after killing all three wizards and getting the clyptogryph. Run away and when you get past a red bar wizard, go under the catacombs where 2 thralls spawn infinitely. Take your graviton lance and just shoot them and baam. Dawning spirit infinite farm. Dawning essence, well I personally like crucible cause I don't like mindnumbing checkpoint farm

[@TheZombie462]

"The Dawning is one of the better holiday events" We are cooked

[@habanerothecheese-a-pillar2507]

Blueberry: Hey Datto, what's the current meta for xyz? Datto: I dunno, prolly some bug.

[@TFConeShot]

I’ve just been farming expert lost sectors because they take around 2 minutes depending on the lost sector. It gives 17-19 essence.

[@joecouture1880]

The disappointing thing is the Dawning is the most straightforward event out of all of them; no helmets or class items you need to wear that mess with your build, no extra activity you need to farm to get engrams, it’s literally just play normal activities, make cookies, get free loot. And even this is plagued with bugs that makes it not fun to participate in

[@Weebfox]

Who could have known that having QA testers in a live service game is actually quite important 😮