🇬🇧👑Will the REAL King George Please Stand Up?😂🇺🇸

Hey guys! We react to a documentary about King George III and ponder what we learnt about him in American public schools.
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[@davidmarsden9800]

There are a couple of things that usually don't get a mention. How did the seven years war start? One of the main causes was George Washington, his soldiers and his Indian guides patrolling in the woods bordering French territories in Canada/America came upon a French Envoy and his party massacred and mutalated them and seized their possessions. This came to light and the French protested and events led to Britain having to defend the Colonies against the French which became the seven years war. After this Washington was overlooked for promotion and position for years and became very bitter about it. This nearly bankrupted Britain and needed to be paid for. Like every government ever they sought to raise taxes especially in the Colonies which had caused and benefitted from it. The taxes even with the increase were lower than most of the rest of the empire, but then as now America likes debt. What followed could have been avoided by both sides but history is full of what ifs.

[@pauljohnson2982]

Volume was a bit lousy on this one folks..

[@gingerbaker4390]

There's a letter by King George III in the royal library Windsor, in which he states to the colonist in America . " Do not encroach on native lands. Treat natives with respect and as Christian brothers in christ." . Quite different what from the American. version of King George I think...

[@nedeast6845]

Paul Revere said "The Regulars are coming" not "the British". In 1775, most colonials saw themselves as British anyway, and their first flag in the revolution/rebellion had the British flag in the upper canton.

[@marycarver1542]

The Monarch is Queen of the entire British country, also recognised as such and as Head of State in most of the Commonwealth countries.

[@long-timesci-fienthusiast9626]

Hi Lillian & Felipe, you need to watch the 1994 film (The Madness of King George), he apparently took ill after the loss of the Colonies. You will recognise Nigel Hawthorne as the King, from the sitcoms (Yes, Minister & Yes, Prime Minister), Helen Mirren plays his Queen. The illness he was supposed to suffer from was Porphyria.

[@davidwhite5800]

King George III was definitely the King of Great Britain and Ireland at the time because it was after Union of the Crowns of Scotland and England. Wales was technically part of England and Ireland was ruled as a colony.

[@barryford1482]

The people in America were divided at the time of the war of independence . Familys were divided and New York was in favour of the British rule and also for some other regions

[@gordonsmith8899]

In 1603, King James VI of Scotland inherited the English throne and ruled in England as King James 1.

[@ianprince1698]

there were 4 kings Georges who were of the house of Hanover (now part of Germany) the first could not speak English, only German and then Queen Victoria who married Prince Albert so the Engish will sometimes refer to the royal family if we are being mischievous as German in the Great War the royal house changed its name from Saxcoberg to Winsor, most European royals were related mostly by Queen Victoria the seat of government was in England but from Queen Victoria, there was the estate of Balmoral Scotland, which the royal family would visit in the summer

[@davidmarsden9800]

When Queen Anne died childless the government had to look for a descendents in the line of succession that were Protestant. They found George the Elector of Hanover in the Holy Roman Empire, now in Germany who became George 1 followed by 3 more and William IV then Victoria.

[@neilcarpenter2669]

The Monarch is British not just English but people from the rest of the UK who dislike the monarchy try to make out it's just an English thing, for example the Protestant majority in Northern Ireland are generally far more enthusiastic about the monarchy than the average English person and the same applies to a significant percentage in Scotland as for Wales I would say they are of similar attitude in general as the English IE moderately enthusiastic. As for the war of independence the British believed rightly or wrongly that the colonies were not paying enough to help in the war with the French especially as we had stopped the French from controlling North America from 1759 onwards.

[@davemac1197]

British monarchs are 'British' after the union of the English and Scottish kingdoms in 1707 - those monarchs are Anne, Georges I-IV, William IV, Victoria, Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI, and Elizabeth II. Before the 1701 union, James VI of Scotland (from 1567) also became King James I of England in 1603, on the death of Elizabeth I, creating a personal union on two thrones, rather than a united kingdom. So, the monarchs are English and Scottish until 1707, then British.

[@atorthefightingeagle9813]

You need to watch Blackadder The Third for a piss take of the Regency.

[@taylort5672]

George's madness came later, as a result of porphyria

[@alangrinnell825]

The first king of the union of England and Scotland was Scottish

[@terencestrugnell4928]

The term "English" should be viewed as generic - until the 1950s there was technically no such thing as a Canadian, Australian or New Zealander etc. Because they were all technically "Englishmen" They all held British passports. The monarch in the UK must, by law, have lineage to the daughter of Scotlands James VI. (James 1st of England) Elizabeth of Bohemia (that's how George I became king). The taxation of the American colonies was to be spent defending American colonies from Catholic France. The Founding fathers just used it as an excuse for independence. They wanted to trade with French Canadians but the UK taxpayer to defend them. The American War of Independence was really the first Civil War in the US. A huge number of colonists fled to New Foundland after the war.

[@Simonsvids]

"The monarch in the UK must, by law, have lineage to the daughter of Scotlands James VI". But if Scotland should succeed, the monarch of England and Wales, I imagine would need to show descent from William 1st, Edward 1st or would it be Henry VII, since the later claimed his right to rule by Right of Conquest?

[@terencestrugnell4928]

@@Simonsvids James VI mother was Mary Queen of Scots. Her grandfather was Henry VII. If Scotland does succeed the monarch should remain the same. James became king of England in 1603. The political union between England and Scotland didn`t happen until 1707.

[@rippog1]

Failure/ defeat is English, victory/ success is British.

[@marycarver1542]

"The Americans" were the British settlers. There were at the time no people known as "Americans! Si it was the British themselves in America who broke free from the British Throne

[@hapa7791]

Ironically, Prince George will become the first genetically English King ever since 1066. Also, about King George III. He really had done nothing to the American. He was a constitutional monarch and the only political intervention he had made was appointing Pitt the Young to be Prime Minister against popular vote which proved to be a great success later. As for Queen of England, I think it’s just a question about titles. Her official title now is Queen of United Kingdom. It doesn’t mean she’s not Queen of England, Scotland or Lylylylyvill. It’s understandable. After all, it won’t be good for the union if her main title was QoE.

[@russellpointer4731]

7:00 if it wasn't for the scottish fighting alongside with the British. The Empire simply would not have been as strong as it was. When you look at Canada excluding the french parts. A lot of the place names and roads are Scottish.

[@keithmaskell4090]

The Scot’s are British how can they fight along side them?

[@connsaunders9600]

The Queen is the hereditary Queen of Scotland. She is the direct descendant of Mary Queen of Scots

[@dannydorko7075]

Would you be able to react to a video on King Alfred the Great? There's a 9 minute video on that subject on a KZbin channel called look back history

[@rogerfickling3612]

Forgive me if this observation of mine has been aired elsewhere in this column. Interesting topic you raise over the correct name to use for British activities during the War of Independence. 2 important events took place nearly 100 years apart that created Great Britain. 1) The ascent of protestant James 6 of Scotland to the English Throne as James 1st after Elizabeth 1 died in 1603. This united the 2 countries in sharing the same sovereign with the same protestant belief (Elizabeth's closer related family were mainly catholics and therefore banned from becoming English monarchs - James 1 went on to commision the famous King James Bible. 2) In 1707 England and Scotland signed the Act of Union which united the economies and political system of the 2 countries under one government which enabled the British Empire to blossom at a previously unseen pace - Scottish administrator and explorers shared in the sweat and administration of conquest as well as share in the spoils of glory and the profits of an ever expanding Empire. Thus England and Scotland became Great Britain. I personally think this 1707 act of union was one of the most important game changers in the history of the modern world.

[@TBeermonster]

It was the Spanish who in 1896 invented the concentration camps in cuba during the US backed war of independence. By 1898 1/3 of the population were in reconcentration camps and they were a propaganda treasure Trove for the US press. That is why the term concentration camp was used by opponents of the Second Boer war (1899-1902) to describe the (hideously mismanaged and racist) refugee camps, especially once Kitchener implemented his scorched earth policy.

[@generaladvance5812]

The issue about using England interchangeably with United Kingdom, is it is just objectively wrong. In 1707 England and Scotland were effectively liquidated and the United Kingdom was created through the acts of union. Using England when referring to the United Kingdom is not only demonstrably incorrect, it's a bit rude frankly. It's like me referring to the US as Washington DC or France as Champagne. England doesn't have a seat at Nato, the United Kingdom does. If the UK came into existence 20-30 years ago I might understand the mistake but it's been centuries since England existed as a political entity.

[@peterjackson4132]

Happy thanksgiving you two

[@lsmith9249]

it the Government who wanted to tax, not the King

[@drivesafely12]

That was really interesting. I suspect that not the whole information was contained in that clip, but it seemed to me a well researched and put together presentation. It is interesting that we often learn about caricatures, but don't actually know the truth accurately at all. Thank you.

[@paulwillard9687]

It was Great Britain 🇬🇧 and many of the people who went to found colonies around the world were Scottish, Irish or welsh looking for fame and fortune

[@USA50_]

I have watched many documentaries about British American relations and this one is pretty good 👍😊

[@pjmoseley243]

The first Colonies were English colonies.

[@mickc7388]

I think you two are trying to catch up with King George re having 15 children ...........................................LOL

[@williamwright2308]

Yo dudes! You're not the only ones confused with history, what are we to be credited for, blamed for, order of monarchy, didn't the last true English monarchy end 1066? When you figure things out can you let me know??

[@JamesWilliams-wo5wl]

George III was king of England and of Scotland (as Scots kings had been invited to take over as English monarchs in 1603 in the union of the two crowns) & as David White describes it "Wales was technically part of England and Ireland was ruled as a colony". There had been a civil war in 1642-1651 when the monarchy fought Parliament and lost. The king was tried for treason (against the people) and executed, a Commonwealth was formed under the rule of Parliament until the monarchy was invited back (1658) under a contract of obligations finally cemented the sovereignty of Parliament in 1688. A Bill of Rights a year later rights of Parliamentary rule, protections for freedoms of citizens and limits on the monarchy. Does a war leading to constitutional government sound familar in a US context in 1761-1783? It seems to me that it is a political parrallel, almost a re-run, of the conflict between monarchy and democratic forces with quite a similar outcome. The clip highlighted the interest George III has in science and his positive qualities such as being forward thinking. He, for example, promoted improvement in agricultural output through the introduction of crop rotation at a time when industry was transforming itself with innovation. The clip drew out his concern for the future caused him to be obstinate with colonists. It is hardly a surprise that many American colonists could not abide a presumption of divine right of a king anymore than the British parliamentary rebels had. Many of their leading thinkers drew on similar or same religious traditions as the rebel leaders of Parliament such as Puritanism.

[@pjmoseley243]

Queen Elizabeth the 2nd of England but Queen Elizabeth the 1st of Scotland in truth.

[@catherinewilkins2760]

Following the death of Elizabeth I the Stewart's took the throne, they were Scottish. So the throne is not English but British. The Tudors were Welsh. In general the throne is European not English. King George had some mental incapacity that resulted in his son becoming the Regent, bit of a sad life. Don't give England the cred for everything it's a shared endeavour, that's why other countries get fed up with it.

[@taylort5672]

Absolutely, and as the cred should be shared, so should failings.