Will the Winter Fuel Cut Haunt Labour at the Next General Election?

[@jaj4234]

Puts immigrants in hotels thats put nothing into this country pensioners who worked 50 yrs are getting nothing

[@mcbunson]

They have got £900 this year for their state pension, I think that is something.

[@williampne]

@@jaj4234 the torys put all the migrants in hotels way before Labour

[@hqew6662]

Maybe they should pull themselves up by the bootstraps or sell their £1m home and downsize to a flat

[@steamixion]

@@mcbunson I get £703 pension a month, born 1946.

[@ecnalms851]

All welfare payments are and should be means-tested. Universal credit is, winter fuel allowance should be too. WFA should only be given to those who struggle to pay for winter energy bills, that's the whole purpose of it.

[@robwellings1608]

We will never forgive. We will never forget. Vote every liebour councillor out of office in May. Start the fight back.

[@charlesregan9917]

Not everyone 1 of them did not vote for it and can sleep well. 50 are cowards the rest ...........

[@deltafox9630]

@@charlesregan9917 That was 1 Labour MP.. the comment was about voting out Labour councillors in the local elections in protest

[@j.4332]

Yep,counting the days until May.

[@AK-47T]

this government doesn't care, people need to get it into their Thick Heads . they dont care even if your Granma is cold they'll take the Cotton cardigan off her back

[@davidcooks2379]

If your grandma is cold, they maybe you are not such a great grandson/daughter?

[@MichaelHill-o4t]

IM A PENSIONER, AND WON,T GET HEATING MONEY. BUT WHAT WORRY ME , THE YOUNG. WHAT FUTURE HAVE THEY GOT, UN THESE POLITICIANS 😢 SCARY

[@margaretmead-vz5ob]

I get really annoyed. I am a pensioner just over by a couple of pounds. But that couple of pounds I have to pay tax. If I get a pension rise. It's more tax for me yet again. I wish I never worked all my life. Then I would get all the benefits and all that goes with it. Free glasses dentist rent rates etc etc. How fair is that

[@mogsya3367]

The tax threshold is currently 12750 quid. If you only got state pension recently then you will be getting 11,440. The difference is 25 quid a week before tax so you are not on the bottom line. I have also worked all my life and have a works pension plus the old state pension and I am only getting just a little more than yourself. How fair is that?

[@michaelbath8460]

It will not be forgotten

[@patrickhatrick1216]

they need booing and slow hand clapping wherever they go

[@howdydoit6141]

Starmer just wants them to pop their clogs to free up houses

[@sharonreichter2537]

He knows that most older people will not vote for him but he has forgotten that they have families who care.

[@cherryseptember8697]

I agree. Starmer is not sorry at all. It seems to me that Starmer, Reeves and gang don't care one inch about pensioners and they want to reduce money spent on older people and free up their homes, so that more taxpayers money and housing can continue to be lavished on accommodating, feeding, keeping warm and medically treating etc all the young men who continue to arrive daily, unasked for and unwanted on our shores. It is clear to me, and I think most of us, that rather than helping pensioners, Starmer's priorities lie elsewhere.... for example, spending billions of pounds on the idiotic net zero (which will leave us all much colder and much poorer), giving away a massive amount (I think it is 12 billion pounds!) to other countries to teach and instruct them about net zero and generally misspending many billions of tax payers' money on the Ukraine War, much of it laundered into the pockets to the wealthy elites and those in power.

[@alanfrost4661]

So ali and his 6 wives can be looked after

[@juliemaddern]

For our replacement ''men only''

[@bob_the_blogger6029]

And yet there's 12 billion for foreign climate aid. Get him out. They've just been handed an extra 10 billion by the BOE. This man is sick.

[@eileendunn4362]

He's going to fill the black hole with the bodies of the pensioners who perish this winter

[@sallyjones5094]

He said 2 then 22, MY MOMS 82 AND THE COLD GETS TO HER BONES, SHE ALSO SUFFERS WITH COPD, SO THE COLD EFFECTS HER BREATHING, HE WANTS TO HOPE NO PENSIONER DIES THIS WINTER BECAUSE OF THE COLD.

[@fizzknit9446]

The minute there's an outbreak of flu, hospitals will be admitting thousands of Old Age Pensioners, sadly gasping their last breaths. It's very worrying that the very first thought of this Labour Government, when it was trying to save these "billions" of pounds, was "let's remove the Universal Winter Fuel allowance for Pensioners". I dread to think what is next in line to pummel Pensioners into an early grave. There are millions of retired Pensioners from Central and Local Government Departments, and NHS staff etc etc .... on good pensions. These Pensioners will no doubt be rattling their Unions about this real life-saving loss to their winter fuel costs.

[@paulchristopher8634]

Nope it’s worse than that. The reason why they have targeted the pensioners is because they didn’t vote for labour at this years G/E. It’s vindictive, cruel and spiteful considering they have given the Railway union at 22% pay increase

[@mrwaybill9938]

The only people better off under this Labour government are members of this Labour government.🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@plague877]

And male illegal immigrants.

[@ancietman]

@@plague877 Being imported so they can vote Labour 2029.

[@ivanglossop5106]

And the retired miner's

[@ronmullard5718]

That's probably the truest thing I've seen today.....

[@blazzz13]

You forgot renters and doctors. Going to be a long slog for you apologists, Tory and DEFORM

[@JemimaWhyte-zi2ct]

Labour will be finished after what they have done to pensioners and he says he as to fix it what when Labour left nothing the last time they where in

[@janicebirch7522]

Oh yes, Kier will fix it! His anger to anyone who challenges him and the revenge he takes is despicable.

[@lindathompson3616]

They are a load of liars

[@ChristopherElsey-h3f]

Labor have committed political suicide with this, will be voting Reform in all elections from now on.

[@smokemeakipper1076]

If you voted Labour then this is YOUR mess!

[@VirtualTrucker74]

Should've voted Reform in the last election.

[@ChristopherElsey-h3f]

@@VirtualTrucker74 I did vote reform

[@ChristopherElsey-h3f]

@@smokemeakipper1076I did vote reform.

[@ecnalms851]

How dare a welfare payment get means-tested! It's not like other welfare payments like universal credit are means-tested... oh wait they are! Not all workers get universal credit because they don't need it, just like how not all pensioners need the winter fuel allowance.

[@salvacionmarquez8321]

I don't want to vote Labour governent anymore. Not again

[@unknownunknown2576]

Shouldn't have in 1st place. This is karma

[@notjustforhackers4252]

No confidence in this current government or its leader.

[@tonyfincham6126]

Todays workers that support it will be tomorrows pensoniers so think on

[@elainemackie1431]

It's already freezing in Scotland - had to use de-icer on my car this morning

[@SusanDean-n7x]

Given in and put my heating on today.

[@elainemackie1431]

@@SusanDean-n7x me too - freezing here

[@SusanDean-n7x]

@@elainemackie1431 Fed up, was looking forward to retiring, now it's getting pretty miserable

[@Dawn-hb5pf]

Starmers' speech was wooden and stilted. He is snake, and NO, we will never forgive him for how he has treated our pensioners. Even saying sorry will not repair the damage or help our oap's. This will haunt him forever.

[@sallyjones5094]

FAKE SPEAKER APPLAUSE FOR STARMER, I DESPISE STARMER. AND IVE NEVER HAD HATE IN MY HEART UP UNTILL HE BECAME PM.

[@bobrail733]

ONLY BEEN in NEARLY 3MONTH'S see he MANAGED to pay off the 2 MILLION for his MANSION, WINTER. FUEL won't bother him probably have the HEATING on 24 /7💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@alanleask387]

​@@bobrail733So will the illegal immigrants in luxury flat and hotel. No worries about paying heating bills

[@IanBlease-y5b]

It's an appalling to cut pensioners fuel allowance winter fuel allowance, and it's turning cold already

[@gameofender4463]

If Labour are trying to make Farage/Reform the champions of pensioners, or the next PM/government then they’re going the right way about it. 😂

[@Brian-om2hh]

What's even more appalling is handing train drivers a pay rise even *larger* than the annual basic state pension....

[@scuffer2897]

His best mate is probably a train driver.

[@ecnalms851]

@@Brian-om2hh Because their wages have been stagnant for 5 years. Winter fuel allowance is there to help pensioners pay for winter energy bills. Pensioner who don't need it, shouldn't get it. It's called means-testing. Just like how not all workers get universal credit.

[@davidcooks2379]

@ecnalms851 75% of pensioners need it. And those who don't need it, earned it. Just cutting it from 300 to 0 is unfair. It should be paid to everyone or noone

[@paulmasonsjazz9611]

Starmer has not realised yet he doesn't need to 'blame the Tories' any more now he is in government. Somehow he thinks people will think he is clever continuing to blame them and taking revenge on pensioners, instead he makes himself look foolish and small minded. The whole country would prefer a U turn rather than a stubborn man who doesn't listen to good advice from his own people, unions, charities and common sense ordinary people. A simple solution is to pay it to everyone eligible previously but make an adjustment for higher rate tax paying pensioners to pay through the tax system which can be done easily and produce the same end result. If Starmer lets this go ahead, it is a sign that he will be as rigid on other crucial decisions whether he is right or wrong which will be a disaster for this country.

[@NyrynBrett]

Liebour change of name the sausage party from me will always refer to them as such and starmer as king sausage the biggest one ,

[@patmartin9727]

It should haunt them for the rest of there lives. Everyone of the electorate should vote against Labour at every opportunity. Never allow these people to govern again. There only interest is lining their own pockets. I have read today that Starmer took gifted money to get extra tuition for his son’s GCSE

[@fizzknit9446]

This subject of the Winter Fuel Allowance for ALL Old Age Pensioners will never go away. At the very first instance, and then for ever onwards - of Pensioners being admitted to hospital 'Gasping for their last breaths" it will be on the front pages of every newspaper and news outlet. It's very worrying that the very first thought of this Labour Government, when it was trying to save these "billions" of pounds, was let's remove the Universal Winter Fuel allowance for Pensioners. I dread to think what is next in store to pummel Pensioners.

[@aclark903]

It was a cruel sectarian calculation 🧮 in that they thought that they would hurt mostly Tory & Reform voters. They forgot 1 in 4 pensioners voted Labour.

[@robharris8844U]

He has £10 million in his personal bank account, he does not want that to go missing, so pensioners are expendables.

[@redbeard3923]

Hypocrisy at its finest 4 years ago if you went out the left called you granny killers

[@suejennings9526]

Now £20,000 donation for Starmer for accomodation for his family between May and July! Whatever you think of freebies and donations, at least MPs should be paying tax on them! MPs need to start living in the real world!

[@clivejones5561]

Starmer will never apologise to us OAPs, so we won't apologise when LABOUR are left in the cold at the next election.

[@Ruth-ff7jw]

Apparently on TV this morning, it said Starmer took a donation of £20k for accommodation, because his son was studying for exams and Journalists were around his home. He is a millionaire, so why cant he afford it himself.

[@sharonreichter2537]

The best thing he could have done for this country would have been to stop the boats and stop the incentive that draws them here.

[@joehatton9790]

Talking about the boat migrants is not allowed. Anyone who does is racist and far right.....and to be locked up.

[@SusanDean-n7x]

No politicians are solving that are they ??? 🤬 Or addressing what happens when they start bringing families ???? It isn't just those on the boats , they aren't seeing it.

[@tedbutler1761]

oh come on he can't control his sausage let alone the country !!!!or even defend it just slipping out can't he ?????

[@ronholfly]

The Prime Minister will not say sorry it not in his vocabulary.

[@Saunderrs]

Shouldn't have voted Labour. Reform all the way

[@pauljames970]

The most threatening sentence in the world is "We are the government, and we're here to help" name me just one thing the government has made better ???????

[@Brian-om2hh]

Er, er, er Nope, can't think of anything at all...

[@briandelaney9710]

Reagan

[@ecnalms851]

So you'd rather no welfare payments at all? Which would involve abolishing universal credit, the winter fuel allowance, and pension credit completely?

[@SNOWDONTRYFAN]

Why wait until the next election , when you can seriously make them look totally empty by voting them all out during ones local elections !

[@sharonreichter2537]

I, for one, will be voting Reform.

[@MaryPrescott-r7j]

NO, NO, NO, it will not be forgotten. (I have written a version of this else where but want to put this here as well). It is not just the WFP, it is the absence of honesty in the Labour manifesto that promised a fully costed plan to freeze energy prices, then they simply act to ensured pensioners freeze this winter! It is the lack of honesty, in their manifesto promise, echoed in his speech, to work in the interest of the working people, then act in self-interest, lining their own pockets with non-taxable “gifts”? It is also about Reeves, putting in a claim for energy costs of £820 for March and April, asking the taxpayers to pay for it, then dishonestly picking the pockets of the vulnerable elderly who have paid tax and Ni all their lives, stating there was no money for WFP? He says he understands that politics “can make or break a life” then pledges to go after the long-term sick taking their benefits to fund public services, I suppose the elderly and the long-term sick will have an increased need for them when he has finished attacking them. He rails against “politically easy answers” but penalises the vulnerable instead of focusing on the “broad shoulders” he previously talked about. His Chancellor Reeves offers a bowl of porridge to young children, (Breakfast Clubs) rather than making the political hard decision to scrap Universal Credit two child barrier, the real reason for child poverty. He made a good speech, his ability to do this is why I voted Labour, but actions speak louder than words and his actions have already done too much damage - he has eroded confidence and trust, his speech was not enough to mend this. I will not be fooled again.

[@9parasqn656]

He spouts about the triple lock as if it's something he's given us when in reality it's been here for many years. He should try telling that to the pensioners who will freeze to death this winter before they get chance to pick up the triple lock. The winter fuel allowance costs £1.4bn yet he gave £10bn overseas for the BS climate 'emergency' and £4bn to Ukraine.

[@jayneofspain3322]

A saving of more than 1bn if you think they said over 4000 pensioners will die so they save the pensions! Notice they aren’t cutting their own fuel payments for their second homes. First culling covid second culling wfa?

[@deltafox9630]

Folk won't wait that long - For a kick off, re the local elections, Starmer & Co have just lost every Labour councillor their seat in the UK... so (if not before) that should spark a vote of no confidence and the end of him and his colony of clapping seals.

[@pswestport]

Absolutely right

[@paulinedownie557]

Only one word sums his speech up . SAUSAGES

[@JustTakeAMoment]

Have you tried asking him what a woman is? Perhaps they're sausages as well!

[@deltafox9630]

No - he's not at all sure if they have a sausage or not...

[@deltafox9630]

No - he's not at all sure if they have a sausage or not...

[@jennadecruz2472]

Your words are absolutely genius…wish I thought of that response!

[@bassetdad437]

He can't kiss his wife.

[@lloyd4301]

So this Labour are now saying the Torys were right to go down the Austerity route and consequently so are they.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Tories....

[@davidcooks2379]

Of course they were right. And we need to do it now. Cut all benefits by 20% every year, cut taxes by 15% every year, over 5 years

[@DavesGarden1714]

The Labour slogan says change,Starmer is definitely changing things for British people by making things worse, especially for pensioners

[@hughmuir3063]

Labour keep on with this £22 billion deficit when that is a drop in the ocean on a public sector budget in excess of £1 trillion. Whereas the last Labour government left an annual budget deficit of £165 billion. So who left a better economy ?

[@petergrossett6763]

In Animal Farm, Boxer the horse worked hard building the wind mill, until he couldn’t work, was sold to the abattoir. Is that where Labour thought up the idea of withdrawing the fuel allowance?

[@robharris8844U]

It is rumours they are going to do away with Single occupant allowance - again the worst hit will be Pensioners.

[@bazzer621]

The fuel allowance may not haunt them but the ghosts of the people who passed away because of their actions certainly will!

[@terasci5102]

If they taxed billionairs, they would loose out on freebies!

[@gerardthomas851]

He won’t even say sorry

[@ClimateRealism]

all they had to do was knock 31.5bn off the overseas green aid package of approx 11 million. It more important to give money away on that than it is to keep the winter fuel allowance.

[@Constitutionalist52]

“ Class is a dividing line in Britain “ How can Labour say they are the voice of the working classes when they get more money from special interest groups, corporations and offshore anonymous hedge funds than from workers donations. Their recent attacks on our most vulnerable citizens tells you which side they are on.

[@DiscoDave-yt9dq]

We mist vote out every single Labour person at next council election Not one vote at all Send a message on to tin eared MP,s Never vote them in again Do not forget in 5 years time No 😣 Labour ever for 100 years or more😮

[@lindasalvador1725]

Vote to a Labour Party is a Mistakes never again

[@williampne]

He's dropped a massive clanger clawing back money at the expense of pensioners

[@johnnyhollis9977]

I still haven't recovered from the last Liebour government!!

[@briandelaney9710]

And under the Tories?

[@johnnyhollis9977]

@@briandelaney9710 Not quite as bad under the Tory's in my opinion. They were at least allowing a new local hospital which has already been cancelled by Labour. I have lived long enough to have experienced quite a few Labour governments and it's never gone well for any of them!

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

i thought it was a sizzling speech that really got to the sausages of the issues facing the country. meat, sorry

[@Domgo-d1w]

A shocking state of affairs in this country now.

[@brendagibb4879]

Labour will never get in again reeves and stammer have ruined the Labour reputation forever sooner they're out the better for the British especially pensioners no time for labour 😢😢

[@lordjimmyjimbok3067]

If anyone ever ever ever votes labour again your part of the demise of this country! He has turned his back on the elderly that has put thousands into this country so us the people must look after the elderly this Christmas as it will be a cold one, we must check on our neighbour

[@howardlong6735]

Why should he care? On his salary heating isn't a problem. He might feel the heat of criticism a bit too warm though as time goes on. Also, his bare faced arrogance is a bit hot to take. Perhaps he'll end up out in the cold on his own before much longer.

[@markgohegan1590]

What I would like to say is ''not that I am sorry for causing personal hardships to thousands of oaps-but thank you to all that gifted me thousands and thousands in clothes, glasses, and the £20k for my son's assistance in his exam preperation .........that is obviously more important to me.''

[@jeffknott1975]

They could of taken the money from somewhere that wasnt gonna cause direct death which this cut surely will

[@johnsmart2616]

Bet your life it will, the Godstarmer, the Don Corleoni of Westminster will never get another chance, ever

[@nicholaselliott9908]

This man is evil

[@SandraPrice-c5g]

YES. A Labour PM cutting the Winter Fuel payment for Pensioners will haunt them for evermore. Unheard of action EVER by Labour who historically stood up for the poor, disadvantaged and Pensioners. Keir Starmer will be forced to quit before long.

[@overthemoon34]

Pensioners are not poor though, 26% of pensioners are millionaires, why would millionaires need £300 extra a year?

[@doralaw148]

@@overthemoon34

[@doralaw148]

Liars liars. Liars Usually people you ignore ,, now ,,, our government ,, the man is ill , no feelings .

[@Elvisdukebox]

THIS WILL NEVER NEVER GO AWAY 😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@michaelnannestad7399]

Daily Mail reports:Starmar's latest gaff has started a war between Cumberland and Lincolnshire. Sage Castle is already under seige in 'The War Of The Sausages'.

[@paulchristopher8634]

You have to feel sorry for those who voted for labour at this years G/E. Sorry but they have been well and truly shafted

[@hankchinaski4075]

What a sausage!

[@CrystalShip8899]

Return the sausages and return them unharmed and in date!!!

[@fizzknit9446]

Pensioners are helpless hostages to this naive inexperienced Liebour Government. We are a convenient, mostly voiceless, whipping boy victims. They just want us all to die and be gone.

[@ImstillNotFooled]

"Release Sausage"..... "I'm sausage and so's my wife"

[@aldoner3]

Only thing that may mitigate this for Labour is a mild winter if we have a really hard cold winter with OAP's clogging up A&E's then it will be very serious for Kier Starmer

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

No one is forgiving him make no mistake.

[@sharonreichter2537]

Reform al lthe way.

[@JD-bn2ch]

Starmer can now call himself Mr Sausage and his Sausage Party!! LOL!

[@BertramG-oz4nu]

What a w⚓️... stop giving billions away to outher country's who dont need it

[@paulyoung4422]

Who do you think you are kidding Mr Sausage, if you think old England's done.

[@SandraDent-lf4xy]

Exactly

[@jimcameron4672]

Letting the old and infirm freeze this winter , and Starmer feels comfortable with it , lovely sentiment from a warm room

[@gerardthomas851]

This man only sees and does as he likes you don’t matter can’t you see that

[@ligayamaranon8054]

Yes, it will haunt Labour Party for a long time to come!

[@wayneleiper9978]

no it wont fade about the pensioner,it will get worst if any die through coldnest.peace a love all

[@gerardthomas851]

If you have money he will give more if you have nothing he will take what little you have of you

[@williamthompson4389]

Nobody in this country will ever smile again until the Labour Party is removed.

[@barryc1968]

The indefensible defending the unspeakable.

[@carlaspinall7418]

I'm done with labour😡😡

[@usmale57]

It's already cost them the next election, luckily!

[@gherkamum]

Labour will never get back in......OAP'S wont forget.

[@davidcooks2379]

From ONS: In the financial year ending (FYE) 2022, median household income in the UK before taxes and benefits was £35,000, increasing to £38,100 after taxes and benefits. The richest fifth had a mean household income before taxes and benefits of £117,500, over 14 times larger than the poorest fifth (£8,200). After cash benefits and direct taxes, this reduced to £83,700 for the richest fifth, 6.3 times larger than the poorest fifth (£13,200). After all taxes and benefits, this ratio reduced to 3.8 times larger, with average final incomes of £83,900 and £22,300 for richest and poorest people, respectively. How is it fair that your salary from being 14 times more becomes just 3.8 times more than the poorest ones? His is disproportionate

[@davidcooks2379]

Imagine subsidising people to the tune of 14,000 pounds a year, and giving them almost double of what they earn by working.

[@Nigel1066]

Labour won’t last there five year term

[@mikerobb8838]

I hope so

[@alanstone1206]

Anyone representing Labour should be voted out, never vote for them ever.

[@classiccarfinder]

Terrible he has to go

[@DysPlexiC115]

Wonder if the retired nurse will take the opportunity to apologize to the rest of us that did not put him in power?

[@charleshales1437]

Pensioners unite/union a big voice if you band together.

[@anthonykeal2993]

Utterly indefensible.

[@barbararobertson2307]

The economy was thriving under Tories , so he thinks that stopping pensioners fuel allowance is fine and sending 84 million pds to Africa is even better . How does that help the economy?? Btw can’t stand that Kevin.

[@neilfoddering921]

Starmer reminds me of my father. He, too, was a weak man who could never admit he was wrong for fear of losing face.

[@j.4332]

This decision will haunt Labour forever.There are now 10 million pensioners that are unlikely to ever vote Labour again.

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[@AndrewSinclair-bk9ho]

STARMER talked about what he wanted to do but NOT about how it is going to be done! NOTHING PRACTICAL !

[@christopher554]

Yes

[@trickyfocus]

3 Grand on glasses and he still cant read an autocue

[@miket1783-j5j]

The next election will be Nigel's Election.

[@jamesgilheany9624]

Has it ever been clearer there is a uniparty?

[@spikewallstreet3563]

I remember the 'cancel student debt' from the Lib Dims. They were punished for the following 2 elections. I don't think the pensioner heating allowance fiasco will be forgotten.

[@Fabbydabby1]

It will be forgotten in 6 months never mind over 4 years from now

[@Dawn-hb5pf]

His policy is ' if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. He at least succeeded doing that in spades. If he thinks his silence and stubborn attitude will be forgotten, he had better think again. There are more of us than him, and we won't stay silent.