Will this REALLY Change Anything?

[@blackbeltsecrets]

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[@xxSWxxNINJA]

Look the reason the first one on the EU was debated it because half the MPs (Labour) wanted Brexit undone. This time, outside of perhaps Reform, no MP has the stomach or spine to debate an early election. Even Conservatives are just part of the uniparty and know full well a new election would destroy them entirely to Reform / UKIP.

[@leialee6820]

BBB are you aware of the petition there as well on the current petitions to support the farmers by stopping the inheritance tax. It currently has 91,388 signatures. That has grown rapidly to & was only 71, 106 the other day when I signed. Thank you. Love your channel.

[@James_Rivett]

@@leialee6820 i found it to when I signed the election one, so I signed it to. Not that I think the government will listen.

[@MalcolmHarris55]

@@blackbeltsecrets Just ordered the starter pack. 👍

[@BernadetteHolman]

People will celibrate when he goes litterally street parties everythingp

[@jacklyons2088]

he is walking us down the path to, "you will own nothing and be happy" the man is a traitor of the worst kind

[@arlisongbird9386]

@@jacklyons2088 especially when he's had meetings with B.Gates before the IHT and now a meeting with B.Rock. Selling the Counterey to the highest bidder.

[@lesigh1749]

While we are apparently moving to the path of "we will own nothing and do a rerun of the Nuremburg trials to make you own a hemp neck tie Stalin"

[@BrianBoru5523]

He's a long standing member of thge trilateral commision, He is following orders.

[@-technodream-]

@@BrianBoru5523nice to see someone knows how things are run x

[@zenoelea8239]

No, he is taking the money from people who have it, to fix the NHS and education system. Its just the reverse of the money flow that the Conservatives put in place over the last 14 years.

[@Kari_B61ex]

My 84-year-old Mum read about it in the newspaper this morning. She doesn't have the internet and asked me to sign it for her - using my work email. I did so on her behalf (I also signed it for myself, with my private email) She knows that it may not cause an early election, but she wanted her voice to be heard. She's worried about food security and what this Labour Government is doing to Farmers. She was a child during the war and still has her ration book, she remembers the effects of food shortages, well into the 1950s... On his point about 'doing the hard stuff first' Poppycock! Small businesses are already panicking, business growth will be zero and the country will ultimately be destroyed. He's a WEF puppet - just doing their bidding.

[@michaelgurd7477]

I've never seen my 86 year old disabled mum move so fast once I told her about the petition. Her extremely poor sight caused by wet macular degeneration went away for the 10 minutes it took her to find the petition and verify it with her e mail.

[@leialee6820]

Are you aware that when you get on the government page & check out other current petitions there is one about stopping the inheritance tax that will affect our farmers. It has 91,376 signatures at this moment in time. That is increasing well. I signed it when it was around 71,106 & that was only the other day. Only 100,000 to be debated. I am also very concerned about food shortages which I believe will be deliberate & seeing as he is cosying up to BR (black r... & BG (gate.) Plus what will be added to our food? Don't trust either.

[@lyncates9238]

Good for her 👍

[@leialee6820]

@@Kari_B61ex My comment was censored about the farmer's petition which is there as well & about their inheritance tax.

[@jolinefields3460]

Your grandma is correct . Controlling the worlds food supply is a main goal of the global elites and the Uber rich bi gates a China are buying farm land. They plan on controlling the population thru food energy water and keeping little boarderless kingdoms easily controlled medicated and dependent on government.

[@mikecrimlis3366]

"Rebuilding the country" does not include stealing £500m from our farmers and giving £530m to Rwandan tea farmers.

[@noladavis5085]

You forgot the billion on carbon capture tech that experts say won't solve anything. That's a billion a year for the next 20 odd years.

[@154_madison]

@@noladavis5085and Ed Milliband is the main beneficiary! Corrupt or what.

No manifesto mentions of the bonanza give aways of our money, our free speech and various islands..........creeping Communism and never a word about it.

[@Dogfacedbloke]

@@noladavis5085 You have to laugh at that. Starmer puts farmers out of business meaning we have to import food from around the world, creating millions of tons more Co2, then we spend money on Co2 reduction.

[@JuliusFawcett]

ridiculous statement

[@AA4PJM]

They need to make peace with the British people. The lack of respect and sneering from this government is disgusting.

[@Pointman607]

He is WEF, they hate the common people.

[@briansavage1408]

They needed to be honest with the British public. Thay did not do that.

[@lynnpurfield9430]

Well said.

[@Dogfacedbloke]

They don't need to make peace, they just need to get out.

[@JuliusFawcett]

sneering at the govt is worse

[@DerekHubbertipdn]

I don't think it matters who you voted for. This petition is not about who anyone voted for but for the actions of the sitting government.

[@briansavage1408]

And showing disgust at the way they LIED to us before the election.

[@4-dman464]

Good point. It's as if Starmer's reply to it is that he's unaccountable to the public because he won the election. In fact any sitting govt should remain accountable to the public, because it is supposed to represent all the public.

[@JD-cw4qg]

He'll ignore it but damn it made me feel better signing it and sharing it.

[@samanthapayton-sayer1689]

Yup

[@jamesmiller3639]

Me too.

[@BasedYoga]

Same here

[@brolohalflemming7042]

Now that the BBC has deigned to notice it, I'm hoping it'll get over the 9.7m votes Labour got in the election. Still unlikely to make a difference because those who've seized power tend not to give it up willingly. Also there was a certain smugness to talking about "anyone who's built a business would know", which free-gear Kier I don't think has ever done. All he's ever been is a burden on the tax payer.

[@Gwenpool_Rocks]

I felt like that too.

[@MaxSlippyFist]

When I renovated my house, it doesn't involve killing old people and then stealing from the dead and giving away the ill gotten gains to people from other countries. Maybe that's just me

[@ohnoslomo]

@@MaxSlippyFist some of the people I've spoke to about cov!d are completely indifferent to some of the conspiracies, for the lack of a better word, and the worrying thing is these people are folk I respect and value their opinion. Normal, working class people. It's crazy the lack of morals and empathy that is just... accepted now.

[@leialee6820]

Have you signed the farmers petition to stop inheritance tax. It can be found there under current petitions. Moving fast now at 91,885.

[@dh2032]

@@ohnoslomo first time i've seen "cov!d" done with an "!", like strate to point, noe flapping around, code words, what ever?

[@MaxSlippyFist]

@ohnoslomo they are called labour voters. Sadly, my friends are largely labour voters, and I'm near alone in a constant battle against them on near every policy, so i feel your pain. They are nice people (relatively), but f me they are money grabbing socialists who want the state handouts and not just for us, the whole world it seems. They've been indoctrinated

[@madmelwood3778]

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[@STEVERICHBRO]

So, did giving train drivers help us all? Did wasting 22 billion on carbon capture prove to not work? Does arresting people for Facebook comments help us all? Unchecked immigration helps us all?

[@hughblack6831]

Don''t forget giving away the Chagos Islands.

[@bigbasil1908]

Immigration props up our long dead economy and keeps the ridiculous housing bubble artificially inflated. If we had a real functional economy they would not have needed to bring in immigrants the last few decades.

[@marieatherton2073]

This is it exactly. Its not just the cost cutting it's Orwellian world he's creating.

[@ArianneAvalon]

And all the money backing others wars whilst cutting our own defences. Putting illegals before our own homeless. Sooo much wrong with this gov.

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

Apparently they want to save 1 billion on the benefits bill over the next 5 years by getting disabled people and young people into work, I have no idea how they are going to do that, seeing as they have not shut the door to the hundreds coming into this country all the time and you can't force companies to employ young unskilled workers or disabled people. and with all these new able bodied young adult men coming into the country all the time claiming to be experienced in jobs you can't check their work history for, well yeah who's going to employ someone here who's old, disabled or clearly just left school.

[@lindasherman3883]

American here, and I know my opinion doesn't mean that much , but I think Starmer and his cronies need to go. I feel for all the British that are suffering from this government.

[@1971gladys]

Your opinion does matter my friend!! It matters greatly xx

[@Xxj-y1n]

Sadly turkey's don't vote for Xmas

[@JennyMartinPhoto]

Your opinion and support matters. We felt the same for you. Congratulations on your latest win in the war let's hope he can sort the war mess into the peace we all want ❤

[@leialee6820]

Thank you & I am very pleased DT got in & was hoping that the cheating would not be as bad as last time. God Bless You.🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@TomTomicMic]

​@@JennyMartinPhoto Peace at Ukraine's cost will only ensure further wars and on a wider stage, similar if Iran and its three terrorist proxies are let off the hook due to "one sided" pressure on Israel!?!

[@andreakinuthia4197]

I just read an article in which Keir dismissed the signatories simply as people who didn't vote for Labour. Not true - we're people who are outraged at the actions of this Labour government.

[@movarvo1217]

He's only making it worse by dismissing it.😢

[@stephaniejohnson2455]

@@movarvo1217 and that seems the problem (or one of them) no humanity

[@briansavage1408]

Even Labour politicians are saying online and on TV/KZbin that they support this petition, as Starmer and his lot have brought the institution of government into disrepute.

[@cougar02000]

It's not surprising that Starmer has dismissed the petition, so far he's dismissed the concerns of the electorate, which hopefully will be his downfall. Not only that, he should be ashamed and worried to the fact that there has never been another Prime minister who has had a petition put up to get rid of him and his party especially a petition that has gained traction so fast, he should not ignore it.

[@Peachesthepuppy123]

Unfortunately I voted labour, biggest mistake I've made. If I knew what they would do in the first few months I would have voted reform, the lesser of the three evils. So yes I voted for them and signed the petition!

[@navajojohn9448]

One problem is the suffering and sacrifices are not across the board. Boat people are still welcomed and getting everything while pensioners, farmers, private school users, NHS payers, people exercising free speech, etc are getting shafted by Stalin-mer. Then the two tier legal system where minorities get a pass and the majority get arrested.

[@RoccoMacloud]

How is the highest ever tax burden helping us ?How is allowing British missiles to be fired at Russia helping us? How is allowing British pensioners to freeze this winter helping us? And on and on and on . This man is a danger to us all.

[@tellitasyouseeit7555]

You really do understand how the world works.

[@JuliusFawcett]

what do you do to help the country?

[@James_Rivett]

@@JuliusFawcett more than you I suspect! Anyone who has worked, anyone who spends money, and one who pays tax is all Helping this countrys ecconemy. That should cover 90% of the UK population in my Opinion!

[@tellitasyouseeit7555]

@@James_Rivett There are less than 50% of people over 16 who are working in the UK.

[@James_Rivett]

@@tellitasyouseeit7555 lmao!!! Unemployed persons over 16 are justI 4.3% of under 68, but it's rising since this shower took power. Meaning 95.7% of the population aged 16 to 69 ARE working!

[@flying714v]

If a builder said he was going to repair your house to make it better and you agree his fee, and then when he starts knocks the house down to the foundations and says " sorry it was a lot worse than I thought and the bill is going to be a lot more than I said " you would be pretty pissed off!

[@darren2564]

You would be more pissed off if he started the additional work without consulting you first and quoting the additional costs, and then doing work on another property but using your money and adding to the bill.

[@historicaustralia]

All builders do that anyway 😂

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

It should be illegal to lie on pledges and they should be dismissed and charged with major fraud when they do. Imagine if lie to gain a job position.

You may still end up with a house, we will all be sitting in mud huts eating bugs

[@Dogfacedbloke]

More like the builder promises you a mansion, you pay him and he forces you into the basement, turns the heating off and fills the place with Africans.

[@suekennedy5821]

Anyone with even basic experience of running a business knows there are two elements to digging it out of a financial hole. The first - which Labour embrace enthusiastically - is increasing revenue. The second is cutting costs and it’s not a good look when the government is throwing money around like confetti - often to overseas interests - while imposing punitive taxes on workers and businesses. Killing the goose that lays the golden egg springs to mind. As usual, it’s the absence of leading by example that winds people up.

[@JuliusFawcett]

we need more immigrants to grow the economy

[@cougar02000]

@@JuliusFawcett What you say is insane, we do not need more immigrants, our country has too great a population as it is more immigrants will just over burden services such as the NHS even more as they're already over burdened.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@JuliusFawcett Are you on something? 😂😂😂 Where did immigration come into that comment? Sign me up for your £10 happiness session on your channel 😂😂😂

[@JuliusFawcett]

@bobmabel8543 edibles

[@bobmabel8543]

@ 😂 Sweet.

[@Coopz1969]

The difference is 52 % voted for brexit but only 20% voted for liebour

[@y2keef]

You mean Lolbour 😅

[@leialee6820]

Probably even more would have voted for Brexit it hadn't have been so ridiculed & got such bad publicity from so many people including politicians & the msm.

[@hiramabiff2017]

100% Correct. Thank you.

[@rwo5402]

52% ithose that bothered to vote. 72% voted which makes it about 36% of all elegible voters.

[@GoldenbanjoDJ]

@@rwo5402 If you don't bother to do something that is literally free and should be considered a duty, then you do not deserve a say. Also, by the way, the same argument applies to labour. Only 20% of those who bothered to vote voted for them

[@Missy802]

I have to agree how Starmer had a father that was a tool maker

[@yvonnebell4025]

I have to agree my father was a tool maker so I wonder what his problem was 🤔 i also agree while my dad was training to be a tool maker he also did a correspondence course to become a refrigeration engineer so does that make my dad cleverer than his 🤔 i think not and i am proud of him

[@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69]

Some say he made the biggest tool in the land.

[@discountdvd]

Have to agree, that's why he produced such a complete tool

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

A master toolmaker, I’d wager!

[@no-oneinparticular7264]

Fool maker

[@Dirty_Hamble]

The people who think it's a worthless exercise are the sort of people who do nothing to change anything. Stop leaving the grassroots work to other people! Do your duty, play your part. How ever small!

[@Space_cadet0007]

Exactly I do not like putting something down negatively when they offer no better solution. Sign your name then go out and vote in local elections in may weaken then drive them out of our towns that they cannot ignore like they can this petition

[@Pointman607]

If you don't want to get involved, don't complain.

[@Dirty_Hamble]

​@Space_cadet0007 Some people have a very strange idea of how real life works. It's not like a 90-minute movie with a tidy happy ending. It's slow and boring. It's talking to people. It's pushing leaflets through letterboxes in the cold and rain. Get off your arses if you want real change!

[@bowlingbill9633]

The reason he won't do a thing is because we are all faceless signatures so it means nothing

[@briansavage1408]

@@Dirty_Hamble I will be doing, as I support REFORM.

[@fifisuki1876]

Thank You BBB. Starmer, Stop sending people to prison for their thoughts - Non Crime rubbish...

[@briansavage1408]

That is the action of a repressive state.

[@JuliusFawcett]

he doesn't

[@rotter7899]

Labour are doing what they want to do, and not what the people want them to do. They're in it for themselves, all the freebies they took prove that.

[@rwo5402]

If that where so than they just do what the tories did for 14 years minus of course the corruption. It didn't seem to bother you the last 14 years.

[@GG-hu9dn]

A lot of catching up to compare with the tory dystopia, though?!

[@mrsm9974]

@@GG-hu9dn Not really! They surpassed it within 4 months! Tories were certainly heading in that direction, but I didn’t feel like the UK had quite arrived at dystopia until Labour stuck their foot on the accelerator pedal, and moved from 1st gear to fifth gear.

[@dad1ipms]

@@GG-hu9dn No way, this lot are many time worse.

[@JuliusFawcett]

we voted them in

[@joedge6142]

I think most people who've signed it know it's not going to achieve anything except send a message to politicians, which people like Starmer won't get but some people in the Labour party and other parties will.

[@TomTomicMic]

We will get a moral victory to enable the opposition to say they haven't got a majority now, especially if it reaches 10 million!?!

[@briansavage1408]

The higher it gets the more legitimacy it has. Imagine if the Petition has more votes than Labout got at the election to get them into power. That would have an effect

[@JanePattinson-db6gz]

@@briansavage1408 it's gonna take 14 million to surpass that. Would be fantastic if it could, tell everyone you know, it is worth showing how strongly the the average working person feels about the raw deal we are getting, without going out and disrupting others lives or rioting or destroying things. Up the quiet Revolution of the majority, the backbone of Britain

[@bobmabel8543]

@@joedge6142 I’m writing regularly to my (Labour) MP respectfully asking questions about what the heck they think they are doing. A petition is one (good) thing but I’d urge you and others to drop your MP a line.

[@joedge6142]

@bobmabel8543 Oh I have many times.

[@overunderabove]

It probably won't. But, the publicity and damage all stack up We need direct democracy in the UK - as Switzerland has - so that the electorate really can influence policy

[@therealunclevanya]

Fat too many low information voters in the UK, we are very poorly educated (by design)

[@arlisongbird9386]

​@therealunclevanya Also a lot of people who have outside interests over the actual land. Only works when it's a singular people.

[@leialee6820]

I would rather not have the constituency thing & just go by the votes a party has. Look how many votes Reform UK got to only give them 5 MPs. I never want to contact my Labour MP who will always get in where I live.

[@DJKav]

@@leialee6820 Same where I live :( Although, reform did knock the labour MP (a spit roasted suckling piggy with a rosette), down from her usual 22k majority, to 11k. Reform came a strong 2nd here and in many other labour constituencies.

[@briansavage1408]

@@leialee6820 WE need proper Proportional Representation.

[@davidcoverdale722]

It won't get Labour out - but it well send a signal to our US cousins that most of use recognise that the Foreign secretary is way out of his depth and not to blame everyone else for that DEI hire.

[@JuliusFawcett]

US are america first, do you think they care about us lol

[@apocalypso1564]

Define 'most of us'.

[@eccehomer8182]

The Article 50 debate was basically resolved when Bojo called an election and got a huge majority. Perhaps 2Tiers should have the balls to back himself in the same way?

[@wandawarthog5724]

Very good point ecce!

[@JuliusFawcett]

Starmer already has a huge majority

[@maxcarroll8639]

Could labour having 402/650 seats be enough backing? Mmmm.

[@eccehomer8182]

@@maxcarroll8639 They won by default due to voter apathy... basically many felt there was no one worth voting for. They got less votes than Corbyn... when Bojo got an 80 seat majority. A GE now would look very different.

[@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs]

Regular people voted to _get the Tories out,_ but we DIDN'T VOTE FOR COMMUNISM TO REPLACE THEM 😐

[@CDXRK]

Voting for what you don't want has always baffled me.

[@thewhitbyphotographer]

Well unlucky, because thats what you've got. Maybe should have gone reform.

[@michaelgurd7477]

You mean Stalinism.

[@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs]

@@thewhitbyphotographer I did myself 🙂👍

[@lindsaywalton3254]

Far far worse than I thought it would be.

[@jmwoods190]

"Breaking everything down to rebuild it." Sounds very much like the Great Reset!

[@eccehomer8182]

🎯 He's stated that he prefers Davos to Parliament, which according to him is "just a tribal shouting place." Charlie Boy won't do anything about it either... no matter how bad it gets... he's Klaus' buddy as well.

[@BeastlyBallistics-jh5qi]

@@eccehomer8182 yes, even spoke about how much easier it was to make back room deals without any oversight or regulation

[@Tomm9y]

But Labour have been the designers of this madness, not just in the ideological background, but in a series of steps over the last 30 years. Much of the current financial problems arise from Gordon Brown’s deregulation of the Bank of England, selling gold, permitting fractional reserve lending, the Blair’s mass immigration from 1997, his removal of justice appeals procedures and ramping up of police powers in 2000’s. Now we have a nasty, corrupt police state, where the politicians gaslight people over legitimate concerns. What bunch of Marxist/Fascist idiots, we need a government and civil service to just deliver the basic services, well. The worst thing is they appear not even be aware of how incompetent they are, try to tell us we are wrong for pointing out their lies, sack the lot of them for gross misconduct, exclude them from a new emergency goverment. The analogy of the lick of paint is pathetic, this is the architect (Labour) who deliberately constructed the mess. Starmer was even smirking earlier as he explained, it is the system, go to jail, didn't they say Belmarsh was good with friendly Muslim gangs?

[@keithfreeman7725]

Got 4 1/2 years of pre-agreed agendas to suffer first, and then it will be worse.

[@JuliusFawcett]

good, we could do with a change after the tories

[@Kittykat4457-g7h]

I don’t buy Starmers response, they said the changes they needed were fully costed, then they created a black hole to justify what happened next. They outright promised not to do certain things and then did them.!if I was rebuilding the system, I’d start with debloating govt and getting rid of all the quangos that stop parliament from acting..but you’d need confidence in your abilities to get rid of lots of ‘advisory’ bureaucrats. Instead they’re spending more on the public sector whilst making it difficult to flourish in the private sector but expecting the private sector to pay for an even more bloated civil service!! It makes no cognitive sense and we can all see it…and feel it! He ignores this at his peril, if he ignores it my fear is that next time the public won’t be so polite. When people lose their jobs, businesses close, the economy flatlines or worse, we’re being terrorised by the authorities at every turn, no one can afford to live, there are no rental properties and Nanny died of cold, what does he think will happen then. We’re asking him to reconsider his course of action but he’s so arrogant and lacking in emotional intelligence, not to mention political skill we know he won’t.

[@suefrowde9378]

I am also surprised why "all our plans are fully costed" mantra (lie) is not brought up more often. If their plans were indeed fully costed by Rachel from Accounts then this makes their action even more traitorous to the British people

[@UnCoolDad]

Starmer referred to the "black hole" in parliament when in opposition (was £36bn when he said it). So yes, all lies.

[@JuliusFawcett]

become an mp then, get voted in, like starmer did

[@Kittykat4457-g7h]

@@JuliusFawcett what lie through my teeth and then have the front to do the opposite…I’ve not got the stomach for that!

[@JuliusFawcett]

@@Kittykat4457-g7h I don't think he's any worse than most, better than johnson, Truss, or Sunak

[@Missy802]

Starmer should be removed from politics completely

[@quigglebert]

He should be exiled to the arctic circle, along with the whole cabinet

[@pistonburner6448]

He should be removed from free society

[@eclectic_gamer]

💀

[@JuliusFawcett]

i don't think so

[@James_Rivett]

@@JuliusFawcett you just don't think reading by your other foolish comments

[@MrEvilWasp]

A multi-millionaire with no worries about paying his own bills accepts thousands upon thousands of illegal boat people into the country where they also don't have to worry about paying for food, rent or bills of any kind because everything is provided totally free. While in the meantime he is taking every penny he can grab from farmers, pensioners, the sick and disabled and anyone else who isn't super rich and struggles to survive.The British homeless stay homeless, freezing and starving over winter while watching all these other people who shouldn't be here walk right into paradise. This is his legacy.

[@keithfreeman7725]

@@MrEvilWasp A multi-millionaire who still has his clothes bought for him by dodgy 'donors'

[@unravel3416]

I think it does indirectly help. So this won't oust Starmer, but it does give the opposition a tool to clobber and keep pressure on him. Also, there is Elon taking full advantage of this new tool and has already bonked Starmer with it. But better than that, this petition gives us a real time view of how many of the silent majority have no confidence in him or his policy. It shows us we are not alone, there are millions of us and counting. Also this story is being reported in India Australia and America, more pressure and eyes on This gov the better.

[@wandawarthog5724]

Couldn’t agree more unravel!

[@stephenburnage7687]

It may create the circumstances of a leadership election (not that would change anything).

[@SeducingJackel]

Nevertheless..... Labour are supposed to represent us ALL. OUR Government.. WE find no confidence in this government

[@johnmassingham5109]

I searched on the BBC website for "petition to call an election" and there were no results for this issue. I wonder why?

[@Harry._.Thompson]

@@johnmassingham5109 none of the main stream have covered it.

[@wirdy1]

BBC= Propaganda channel for the govt.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

It’s buried in the internet searches too.

[@stevieandthebarbies]

Probably because it isn’t a BBC petition- it’s a load of disgruntled Tory tossers who forget that the electoral system for the UK is first past the post and their f’kers didn’t win.

[@chrisd848]

It hardly consitutes news

[@Tomm9y]

To recall an MP, only 10% of voters in the constituency need to sign a petition, within the 6 week window. I think the threshold to trigger a general election should be lower. However with approximately 48 million voters in the UK, 10% of that number is 4.8 million, 50% of the number of Labour votes at the July 2024 general election. 42% of votes were for parties other than labour or conservative, yet are very poorly represented in the number of seats in Parliament. At 2.2 million signatures, that is 7.6% of the 2024 general election Turnout. The problem is that the disproportionate number of Labour seats makes it unlikely for Parliament to pass a vote of no confidence. At 2.9 million signatures, i.e. 10% of turnout, Starmer should be forced to call it a day and ask the King to dissolve Parliament. Smaller parties need more seats, Leb dems got 72/79, Reform 5/93, Greens 4/44, etc. The Article 50 petition was about something that was the result of a referendum. Very different. Labour have been undermining the foundations of the UK for decades, even now they are extending totalitarian policies. Their policies are making things worse, giving huge pay rises to unionised groups. We need housing costs cut from 50% of net income to 10% to 12%. Restrict mortgage lending the cost of construction (materials and labour) on new houses and the depreciated value for older houses. Bank lending and powers needs to be cut by 10 or more, (thereby the owners of debt), have become slaves to government and banks. Then massive cuts to the civil service by huge simplification of legislation and a 20 fold improvement in efficiency. No wonder there is pressure for pay rises when many people are paying more than 50% of their income on housing. Good quality, spacious housing, with parking, should be delivered at real cost not providing huge profits to developers, landbankers, financiers, etc. The budget should include significant repayment of the head-line national debt of £3 trillion, instead of adding the already astronomical £110 billion interest payments, also focus on the real national debt of £12.1 trillion and household debt of £1.85 trillion. The problem is that the sheer incompetence of labour MPs, the excessive power of the Treasury Civil Servants, the pathetic blatant lies by ministers should see them all sacked for misconduct. Much of the current financial problems arise from Gordon Brown’s deregulation of the Bank of England, selling gold, permitting fractional reserve lending, the Blair’s mass immigration from 1997, his removal of justice appeals procedures and ramping up of police powers in 2000’s. Now we have a nasty, corrupt police state, where the politicians gaslight people over legitimate concerns. What bunch of Marxist/Fascist idiots, we need a government and civil service to just deliver the basic services, well. We are not a ‘product’ to be used as their playthings, their ego boosting, their enrichment, their cronies power, their ideological fantasies, their secure pensions, their buy to let portfolio expansion.

[@boostar155]

A recall only requires 10% of the voters but it also requires the MP in question to have received a custodial sentence, be suspended from parliament for a certain period or be convicted of fiddling their expenses. Frankly I'm more surprised the process isn't automatic.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@boostar155 Michael Amesbury MP might be a good test case.

[@TheRastler]

Never in history of petitions to parliament has a petition got so many signatories in such a small timespan of a petition, worth noting this petition has only been live for approximately 48 hours. Time Starmer admitted to himself he and his party are a spent force and should call a General Election if he thinks otherwise.

[@briansavage1408]

The current petition is only days old. It runs for SIX MONTHS. There is potential for the final number to be HUGE.

[@JanePattinson-db6gz]

It's unprecedented as far as I know and yet there is a media whiteout on it, and those who are touching on it are doing so with trepidation

[@mattsslug]

His idea to "fix" the nhs just seems to be making the same mistake every other government has done...chuck some extra cash at it. The NHS is a black hole of money, it doesn't need more money it needs someone in charge that will run it like a business for a while, it needs a clear out.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@mattsslug 💯 %. Worked in and around the NHS for thirty years - the level of waste is appalling. Nobody held to account. No performance related incentives. A bloke in charge (Streeting) whose main qualification is that he was President of the Student Union at college. Jesus wept!!!🤦

[@scoobydoobydoooo]

The NHS is riddled with useless staff who are draining the funds within. Lots of extra jobs have been created filled with people spending their working hours there having these stupid zoom meetings. I'm lucky enough to know three different people working within the NHS. The stories they share when I probed them was very revealing.

[@mattsslug]

@@bobmabel8543 my wife worked in a department of 8 people (including managers)...yes MANAGERS, that small department had not only a manager and assistant manager but also a supervisor, so it was 5 normal staff and 3 higher paid. The management of that department could have been easily absorbed by another similar department and nothing would have changed except a substantial saving. This kind of waste is all over the NHS and it needs to be looked at, nothing will EVER get better by throwing more money at it only by fixing these kinds of waste issues.

[@jimthatcher3952]

It doesn't matter what he says about the difficult things. He got in on a raft of promises, which he has broken all of. Actually, it's done the opposite of all those promises.

[@Wulvivathethird]

Break the mould so Blackrock can rebuild. His casual chuckling really is contemptuous 😠

[@shanemurray2477]

The chuckling drives me mad - it's so completely devoid of warmth or genuine humour. If a shark could laugh, that's the kind of laugh it would have...

[@RubyBaker-b4x]

I agree there is a lot that needs sorting out. However. first none of this was in their manifesto. What needs sorting is the amount of money we are giving away. The latest a portion of the nearly 300 billion at the COP meeting. The amount on net zero. The illegal migration problem. 3* plau hotels for new arrivals when our own people are sleeping rough. The NHS which is not fit for purpose, we have over 4 million signed off sick? The work for benefits scheme they are proposing, not yet fully explained. The big one is the interference in justice by calling protestors far right thugs and insisting they were sent to jail. The cover up of Southport, no idea what it is but must be bad. The police? Etc etc.

[@sysdevman]

Yes, the rejoin EU petition reached 6.1 Million signatures. The difference is that the original referendum had a 54.3% majority for leave while remain only had 45.7% of the vote. In the 2024 general election only 33.7% of voters chose Labour, 66.2% did not.

[@chrisnorniron]

@@sysdevman It was 51.9% to 48.1%.

In the referendum the choices were at least based on truthful options. This government disguised their Communist agenda to get in and given 5 years it will be too late to redeem our country. Blackrock is the spectre at the gates.....

[@Winny-woo-woo]

If not how our system works then why were the election promises not kept, is that not how it works for those that voted labour and believed

[@Tomm9y]

Starmer was even smirking as he was saying that is how the system works! They appear not even be aware of how incompetent they are, try to tell us we are wrong for pointing out their lies, sack the lot of them for gross misconduct, exclude them from a new emergency goverment. The analogy of the lick of paint is pathetic, this is the architect (Labour) who deliberately constructed the mess. They need to enjoy some time at His Majesty's Pleasure, didn't they say Belmarsh was good with friendly Muslim gangs? I thought the conduct and attitudes of the executives of the Post Office Inquiry was shocking enough, although it was inline with what I have observed in other areas of public service. Interestingly the POL/Fujitsu debacle with the false conviction of some 900 subpostmasters, originated from Blair's relationship with Fujitsu even prior to the 1997 general election.

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

​@@Tomm9yThey're well aware and it's ALL DELIBERATE. They don't work for us

[@mantis1412]

I don't understand how they can feel pressure to hand over 500M to foreign farmers and then tell everyone at home we are in for a hard time. Maybe politically it makes sense, I don't know.

[@Flaming_Hot_Beans]

They do what there told, and not from people who live here, and certainly not in the UK's interest. The opposite in fact.

[@thomashynd2291]

I listened to that interview on This Morning. He was given such an easy ride. Banged on about saving the NHS and mentioned funding schools and filling the black hole they found. The presenters had either been told not to upset him or didn't want to, but I can guarantee he won't want to be interviewed on the likes of GB News because straight away they'd be asking him how driving thousands of kids into state schools is going to fix schools? The only difficult one he had was being told people were going to lose jobs because of the rise in employer N.I contributions and minimum wage and he said that we would have to accept things won't be easy, and it was left at that. You can tell he is a real politician because at the end, he couldn't even give a straight answer on his favourite Christmas movie. He dodged it as though he didn't want to offend the films he didn't pick.

[@Hlieyto]

Didn't want to answer and offend the Isl*mists

[@retroclickmedia4422]

If it gets to 10m by the weekend Labour are toast. No Labour MP will be interviewed on MSM

[@Bert52]

I took such pleasure in signing the petition, he needs to go, he sniggers all the time in every interview about what he’s doing to the UK, he makes Mr Blobby look competent.

[@awakenedsoulx9431]

😂Not Mr blobby.. Can't stop laughing 😂. You are correct though.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@Bert52 Please write a quick email to your MP to back it up 💪🏼

[@Bert52]

@@bobmabel8543I would but he doesn’t even acknowledge me anymore and he’s conservative!!

[@pwensor]

Labour came into power screaming about a £22Bn black hole, but have already spent, or pledged to spend many times that amount in spurious Net Zero, etc projects. The economy was growing before they came into power and will now probably go into recession due to their tax increases. The current cabinet are career politicians with no business experience, and we are being dragged back into the same standard of living we had under them in the Tax & Spend, fuel crisis, Three Day Week 1970s.

[@briansavage1408]

BUT, but but Rachel Reeves has experience of being an economist. SCRATCH THAT She knows how to answer complaints. Well, start working on this complaint by over TWO MILLION people.

[@dazt5831]

ed milibands bill for net zero stands to be £12 trillion or £300,000 per household if we allow them to continue on this path of destruction, recession would be welcomed compared to whats coming which is now without a doubt an economic depression especially with a border thats non existant

[@wirdy1]

He's already kissed it off, publicly. But, it's gonna niggle them.

[@davocc2405]

I note the £22bil "hole in the finances" is remarkably "carbon capture programme sized" - matching the budget for that which arguably won't have much (if any) tangible environmental impact given the sharp rises in emissions form China, India, etc. The era of these being seen as much more than a political vanity project is passing - normies out there are getting rather upset as the Americans found out on November 5th.

[@Bhethar]

My biggest issue with the government is that they’re not doing enough to fix inflation. Their too busy arresting people for none crimes than improving our lives

[@rolyvonotter2693]

Starmer being Sanctimonious as usual.

[@navajojohn9448]

Not a fair system. Voters don't get to vote for a leader and only get to vote for their local MPs who get to pick a leader. Also voter elected MPs don't get to vet and approve ministers and secretaries chosen by PM. Then of course the un- elected House of lords exists. Citizens don't have much say.

[@amandabell8827]

Article 50 was very different, everyone knew exactly what it was and voted accordingly. Article 50 didn't change it mind every five minutes and continuously tell lies.

[@PDRich]

The bottom line is: if Whitehall (not the ruling party) were doing their jobs, Parament would be under an emergency coalition government by now and The Labour party would be under investigation for electoral fraud; Meaning that we wouldn't need to run this petition in the first place.

[@mandygay8848]

@BlackBeltSecrets can you address this point please? Is there an avenue to get this enacted?

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

The only people saying ignore the petition, are people who feel threatened by the petition.

[@deanokay666]

The difference between the two petitions is, one was to overturn a fair democratic vote, and the other to overturn a bunch of lies.

[@nodwaa9227]

@@deanokay666 others would also say brexit was based on lies also. I'm fully on you're page here before you think otherwise though. Stazi needs to go

[@alanrobertson9790]

Not expecting a new election just want to show them they are not popular.

[@ianbrown9082]

2 million in 2 days...This petition has another 6 months to run, so it could get more signatures than Starmer had votes

[@jimbobjimbob8275]

No, nothing will change. He will just ignore it. They have already tried to dismiss it saying the signatures are fake

[@Wetangle]

They are! From other countries too

[@amandabell8827]

He may ignore it but the opposition won't, they will remind him every chance they get!

[@DavidLawrence-i8x]

The signatures are definitely fake, just like the farmers who aren’t ’working people’

[@discountdvd]

​@Wetangle Complete rubbish, to sign it, your email and address is verified

[@Dirty_Hamble]

​@@DavidLawrence-i8x Moron.

[@Nuts-Bolts]

In 1831, King William IV put on his crown, entered the Chamber in the House of Commons and promptly dissolved parliament. The King should revoke his permission and thereby dissolve Parliament as Starmer got in by deception. And to show good will at this time of year, offer Starmer free tenancy in the Bloody Tower.

[@demigog9523]

Sadly the king is in sync with everything Starmer's government is doing.

[@mary50-tl7hi]

King's had more power then

[@mary50-tl7hi]

He hasn't got the power. Parliament has to have a no confidence vote. Prime minister asks the king

[@deet5072]

In 2022 the royal prerogative that allowed the King to close parliment is no longer. However, he can should he choose to, dismiss the PM and force a leadership contest for who can control the commons.

[@eccehomer8182]

2Tier and Charlie have the same "buddies".

[@ddewici]

On the news, he states that he expected this to happen, as most of the people requesting this were not labour voters. Another egotistical, delusional politician.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@ddewici So he’s running a country of 68 million inhabitants with regard for only the ones who voted Labour 9.7 million - makes sense 🤦

[@4evaavfc]

A tyrant would ignore any petition. Brits need to stand up for freedom of speech.

[@briansavage1408]

Thay cannot put us all in JAIL.

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Musks intervention made a huge difference, Starmer is even too scared to rebuke him.

[@longiusaescius2537]

What did Elon say?

[@davidandrews1296]

Two observations. 1) Not doing what was promised (hey, he's a Politicians so this was expected) 2) He's swanning around talking about his majority as if 80% of people voted for him when in fact is was 20-30%. To me, this is about teaching the PM a little humility and hopefully, wake up a few of his back bench MP's into speaking up for what was promised

[@martinthompson4707]

@@davidandrews1296 if you want to get the attention of the backbenchers, a brown envelope stuffed with cash would work much, much faster 😄

[@bobmabel8543]

@@davidandrews1296 Please write an email to your MP. Petitions are one thing - having to read how pee’d off your constituents (voters) are is much more impactful. I’ve done both - the latter several times now.

[@DJKav]

We're a democracy and under that, we elect common people to represent us, as groups, a voice. To voice any questions or concerns to the crown. It since then evolved into the executive. We as the people who do the electing, should have a mechanism that if we reach a threshold. We can trigger a general election, as it would then show that the executive, serving government, have lost the public's trust. Therefore, they no longer have the people's mandate to continue functioning, Otherwise, we're really just a dictatorship, who can't hold the government to account, and are locked into a 5 year period, where they're free to do whatever they want and walk us into non consented conflicts, and improper wasting of public funds.

[@boostar155]

I think getting rid of FPTP and going PR is the only way forward at this point. I didn't like it in the past, but now it's clear that the only two parties that have any chance of getting in are the same people with different coloured ties, the only way to break the duopoly is PR. Being able to oust a government is all well and good, but when all you'll end up with is the other cheek from the same arse getting in instead, it's not very useful.

[@michaelsimpson4400]

The PMs response basically says it all. 2m+ million sign a petition sign a petition and lots of people didn't vote for me, so I don't care. These are not the words of a PM who wants to govern for the country, they are the words who wants to govern only for his supporters. Also slightly ironic coming from Starmer who wanted a second referendum.

[@BeastlyBallistics-jh5qi]

Sadly the political system seems rather broken when its OK to make grandose lies to con folk into voting for you, then do the opposite and just shrug. Accountability is needed.

[@TheEnglishOne]

That's why we need this petition to surpass 10 million.. It's very unlikely. But it's not outside the realm of reality. If everyone who said they won't sign it because it's pointless, just signed it. That would help 🤷‍♂️ if you're angry. Just sign it in support

[@briansavage1408]

A previous petition took six months to reach sis million. This one has reached over two million in just a couple of days. Watch this space.

[@TheEnglishOne]

@briansavage1408 I'm 100% with you mate. I signed at around 200,000 people. Paz said it would be 250,000 by morning. Boy wasn't he wrong in the best way haha

[@John-cz2pe]

When I remodeled my house, I didn't go and take money from my elderly neighbours and I certainly didn't spaff well over what budget I had, on pointless projects and things in foreign countries

[@margaretthompson1258]

Everyone needs to sign the petition

[@margaretthompson1258]

Is it true that people from abroad are signing that isn't right

[@gambitkiller457]

Starmer needs taken out of politics and jailed!

[@bigbasil1908]

To the Hague with him!

[@Bethoflife]

He's another Justin Trudeau. Good luck getting rid of him !

[@mattwoodford1820]

About as much chance of getting rid of him as getting chewing gum out of a shagpile carpet

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

If nothing else he'll look a fool internationally

[@discountdvd]

Already does, that's why they are all jumping up with the begging bowls as he, lammy and the king are obvious push overs to anyone with a vague sob story, don't matter if it's got any base in reality

[@Space_cadet0007]

He already does this is just another nail 😂

[@joshuadelisle]

9.6m voted for Labour. Come on guys let's get over 10m to sign the petition!

[@yepnowletussee6702]

And i l8ve in France and believe me, many countries are talking about it

[@briansavage1408]

Thank you for your support. Internatioal pressure will build.

[@terenceballands1374]

Less than 10m voted for Liebour.

[@stevieandthebarbies]

Fewer - so you don’t understand simple grammar - just like you don’t understand the “first past the post” electoral system of the UK. And yet you think your comments are worthwhile.

[@briansavage1408]

And this petition already has more than TWO MILLION votes in a few days but runs for six months.

[@briansavage1408]

The EU petition ran for SIX months before it got to 6 million. The current petition is already over 2 million in a couple of days. Ove r20 million voted in the EU referendum, but only 6 million in that petition. It will be very interesting if the current petition gets over 9 million, as then it will exceed the number of votes the Labour Party received that got them elected. Watch this space. Already Starmer's popularity is below that of Nigel Farage.

[@iangriff459]

Starmer thinks that it is only people voting that did not vote labour in the election. I wish there was a way to see who is signing this petition to see if labour voters are voting on it.

[@The_Summit_Wanderer]

Protest and you're ignored. Riot and you're ignored (and arrested) Write to your MP and your ignored. Petition parliament and he sits there SMIRKING HIS FUCKING FACE OFF.....

[@MarkB-33]

Truest comment on here. Sadly.

[@alanrobertson9790]

Well every 5 years you can get a government based on Uniparty A or B.

[@alli3219]

​@@alanrobertson9790 Plain vanilla and bland chocolate icecream We need strawberry 🍓 👩‍🍳 though 😂 That makes a Neapolitan

[@MRWKFClark]

His response was that it’s probably people who didn’t vote labour in the last election that are signing this. Whilst that may be partially true, I’m sure there’s a significant number of people who voted labour who are completely disillusioned by what they have done in the last four months and are signing because they have broken their promises. He knows full well if there was another election tomorrow labour would lose in a landslide and most likely to reform. He doesn’t realise people are capable of changing their minds, especially when you’ve lied to them or not come through with your pledges.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@MRWKFClark Please write an email to your MP. It’s quick, easy and impactful. If enough of us do it…..watch this space.

[@CodeDusq1]

It’s funny how they claim that this is how the system works when it benefits them, but ignore it when it comes to the voters trust.

[@SteveMonk1956]

Giving away and wasting billions of pounds to vanity projects, overseas interests, supporting illegal migration and not putting a stop to all the waste in the civil service, NHS, and bloated quangos whilst we have people living in poverty, unfit homes and tower blocks, former servicemen living in cardboard boxes, other homeless souls living on the streets hungry and cold and more. Charity begins at home. I am sick of hearing of the 22 Billion black hole, is that the only sentence they know?

[@alanrobertson9790]

And giving their friends large pay rises.

[@buggerlugz6753]

If voting could actually change anything they wouldn't let us do it in the first place. Remember 14 million people voted for reform at the general election....after all.

[@chrisnorniron]

4,117,610 voted for Reform. About 14.3% of votes cast. Not 14 million.

[@bojo88]

Hopefully that number will be much higher in the next one too!

[@chrisnorniron]

@@buggerlugz6753 4,117,610 voted for Reform.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

They're so blinkered that they'll just ignore it anyway, they have no shame. It wasn't many people who didn't vote labour, it was 80% of the populace, and 50% of those who did vote regret it.

[@DafyddMorse]

The problem is even if there was another general election, it doesn’t matter who you vote for, the government always get in.

[@alanrobertson9790]

😂

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

I am left asking one question: has slippery Starmer ever even held a hand tool to redecorate a house? I doubt it. And there in lies the problem. He has never had a 'regular' job, so he has no frame of reference.

[@meryluk]

This party's had 14 years to prepare for governing. So no excuses wash now. Bloody fed up hearing about the black hole. If there was one they would have known about it anyway.

[@BadlydrawnBen]

Went for a rare pint last night and within an hour i had about 40 people sign it 👍

[@bobmabel8543]

@@BadlydrawnBen Now get them to write an email to their MP 💪🏼

[@MazSwanboroughSmith]

According to the banner on the tv, he was speaking about the NHS! Does he not understand that pensioners are freezing, jobs are being lost, companies are closing? How does he expect people to live when benefits are being cut and jobs will be very scarce? We won’t be able to buy food or anything!

[@pennyliggan]

He doesn’t give a tuppenny damn, none of them does. His policies won’t inconvenience him one little bit.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@MazSwanboroughSmith Please write an email to your MP voicing your concerns 💪🏼

[@alli3219]

He has had no exposure. They are hermetically sealed off from reality 😖

[@deet5072]

Break everything and put it back together, no one voted for that. also, the thing he is trying to fix will not be fixed by throwing money at it. the NHS and social care which has skyrocketed in size and waste over the decades has never got better no matter who has been in power and how much money is thrown at it. It does absolutely need change but that change will not be what Starmer is working towards. What Starmer needs is poor people to remain poor and ignorent of the reasons they are poor. Why? Because when people move out of being poor in to the realm of being comfortable, they turn towards the right as no one wants their hard earned cash taken off them If they become super rich they can move again back to the left largely because they dont need to worry about losing a bit of cash and get to feel all good inside.

[@thelostlegendsoflewesandhamsey]

We don’t “feel” like they lied. They lied.

[@raminybhatti5740]

Starmer Stans will say it's Kremlin bots inflating the signatures.

[@robin9342]

Funny that. When I checked this morning, just 11 signatures were from Russia and they could even be British citizens.

[@raminybhatti5740]

@robin9342 Let's not allow reality to get in the way of narratives, please.

[@carla.p2795]

Even the mainstream news media is reporting on the petition!😂

[@Lost-In-Blank]

That is solid proof that even the Wokeist most die-hard steadfast Labour Party supporters want Starmer to step down.

[@markgr1nyer]

I voted reform, was totally happy when labour got in as it was democracy, but I had no idea they would shaft the country so badly so quickly. Another election is the only Democratic way to get labor out

[@briansavage1408]

Well said. It's the LIES that have annoyed people. The Labour government do not seem to have a TRUE mandate to govern.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@markgr1nyer Please email your MP 💪🏼

[@laceandwhisky]

The main issue is that people have been so trodden on and so down hearted that they can't be arsed to vote or sign petitions. That's been the aim for years. 😢

[@alli3219]

Democracy fatigue... and slow descent into tyranny 😢

[@dougsmith3015]

So basically he is saying that we all should have voted Reform UK.

[@briansavage1408]

We should have and some of us did.

[@bobmabel8543]

@@briansavage1408 We did indeed 💪🏼

[@karenlord2599]

When he talked about breaking the mould, I couldn't help thinking about the jaguar advert

[@Dirty_Hamble]

Kier Starmer faces those infamous political heavyweights, Kat Dooley and Andi Peters.

[@gezmonder]

He's taking money from the private sector to find the public sector. Hardly a surprise for a labour government. The issue is that they pretend they are also stimulating growth. Nobody either in the media or opposition are challenging them with what are very obvious questions, as to how they expect anything other than shrinkage rather than growth with their policies.

[@kenwright5144]

Rebuild in what image exactly?

[@bigbasil1908]

Well, google image search current photos of Gaza. In those images basically.

[@stevelloyd5621]

As it's an official government petition it runs for 6 months it could potentially reach more than those that didn't vote for Labour.

[@denisehay8895]

I don't believe this government is CAPABLE of running the country. I felt slightly uncomfortable about signing this petition because I was previously critical of those who wanted another referendum when the country made the 'wrong' decision over Brexit, even though I myself voted 'remain'. It was after all a democratic decision. But I did sign this petition because my fears for the country which is currently at the mercy of an incompetent government are at the moment overshadowing anything else.

[@lunasmum6869]

This is just the reaction by the Government I thought would happen! 'It must be only those who didn't vote Labour who are voting'!! Reading comments it it obvious that those who did vote for Labour are feeling let down as well. As I write the vote for an election is nearly three million.