Will This Rolex Submariner Lose Money Long-Term? (Two-Tone Prediction) Watch Dealer Q&A July 2023

[@realrockrolla]

The new Bluesy in the best Rolex ever made

[@Watchtrader]

Best Rolex ever made is a major topic for debate

[@SteelmoonWatches]

Too big

[@JohnUSA7]

Just a month ago I bought my brand new Rolex Bluesy from my great authorized Rolex dealer. Before I bought my Bluesy I check the whole watch market and contacted many dealers to see for how much I will be able to buy my new Bluesy. The current retail price for a new Bluesy in the US is $15,600.00. You will not be able to get any discounts on Bluesy. If you did and were lucky please share your experience here. This model sells for a higher price than retail on the used watch market. So if you want this watch and want to pay only retail you got to be patient and just wait. My research proves that this Rolex Bluesy will appreciate in value. Good luck and hope your dreams may come true soon for you as well.

[@MrHav1k]

Right on!! Love the Bluesy!

[@Ferreiraplumbing20]

100% agree if you bought this for 15,600 you walked out of the boutique with 3-5k equity

[@fredtafel]

@@Ferreiraplumbing20this comment didn’t age well. They are now selling below retail on the secondary market

[@tromboostofficial]

Bluesy is the best sub ever!!! Shiny and still an everyday watch. For me the the best value🔥🔥🔥 Prices will go crazy in years.

[@ralphferrara5152]

How long did you have to wait for your Rolex Bluesy and did you pay the retail price or way over price? I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks

[@danielbarnard8069]

Hendo. I do not handle as many watches as you. So that could be part of it. But as an owner of both a datejust (2013/14) and a seamaster. Diver chrono c. 2012. The latter is like a farm vehicle. The movement is noisy, it’s really heavy (even when comparing to my Daytona / equivalent chrono) and having gone swimming with it multiple times - the back of the bezel makes my wrist smell metallic when it gets wet. But the biggest difference I’ve found in 20 yrs of ownership is the after sales service. Omega boutique at Bluewater in Kent - have damaged my constellation (and sent it back with parts from another watch after being asked to replace a battery and taking 2months at service centre) and the clincher - refused to replace the (I claim defective) dial on my seamaster during warranty period. Despite photos and proof the case had never been opened. Rolex - for all the contempt shown by some ADs - have always done exactly what they said they would do. Slowly - but without screwing it up. All that said - I love my seamaster. But cannot bring myself to give Omega more money. Or a recommendation.

[@maverick4177]

Omega boutique bluewater are cowboys, had a similar negative experience there, although i think the Fact Hunt that was the manger who had too much to say has now been replaced

[@michaeljacksonsloafers]

If you showed me a picture of Jack and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Painter and Decorator. If you showed me a picture of Hendo and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Nightclub Owner. If you showed me a picture of Josh and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Estate Agent. If you showed me a picture of Jon and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Asda Delivery Driver. True story.

[@ronaldJ262]

How about Harry ?

[@michaeljacksonsloafers]

@@ronaldJ262If you showed me a picture of Harry and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be works in I.T.

[@Watchtrader]

😂 Thanks for that

[@rolandvaneijk]

Gave the video a thumbs up, now sit back and going to watch it. Cheers.

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for tuning in

[@motokult]

A lot of watches, I was wearing ! These are my favorite ones; Yellow Golf DD champagne stick dial 40mm 228238, Daytona Panda 116500

[@Aliassuk]

Can you please add the 2021 new Explorer II white dial in one of the future videos similar to this one? Do we think it’s a good investment? Thanks

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for watching. Feel free to ask the question on our next Q&A post!

[@andrewgill1749]

Another great video lads, another example of why you are the best watch channel on KZbin! Nice to see that you’re not just talking about Rolex, even though it’s the brand I like the most 👍

[@Watchtrader]

Much appreciated! Thanks for watching as always 🙏

[@paulscaife2247]

What's the difference in resale value of the same rolex watches like subs, date just, op etc in left hand vs right handed watches. I'm left handed but thinking about buying a normal left watch and wear it on my right hand.?? Tia

[@Watchtrader]

Nearly every current Rolex watch has the crown on the right hand side. It’s only the GMT-Master II VTNR that has the crown on the left

[@Ethan.rid1]

Me and my dad watch all your videos. We went to Jesmond dene and saw Stuart in the shop window when we drove past. I like personally Daytona ghost which I will aim to get when I’m older.

[@hsbnsse]

I may buy a black sub or a black gmt , even a rose gold yacht , are which is the best to hold the price? Love the vids

[@Watchtrader]

Buy the one you like. The Sub or GMT are more popular models so will likely have more people looking to buy them in the future

[@FLFC77]

I’d defo going with Lee Westwood… sponsored by AP..!!!

[@Watchtrader]

🏌️‍♂️⛳️

[@Nosecone]

Fantastic of you guys to do this Q&A….really fascinating and I’m also thrilled to see my question get a mention! Excellent episode….more like this too please!! 👏🏾👏🏾

[@Watchtrader]

Thank you for getting involved and asking a question - glad you enjoyed it!

[@davelee9791]

Daytona 16518 4 years ago £12k bought as many as I could find today £20k+… everyone was telling me I’m mad buying at those prices..

[@edmondhennigar]

Love the relaxed atmosphere great to see different models that get skipped over on other vids top lads👍👍

[@Watchtrader]

Appreciate the feedback. Have a good weekend

[@relosapulso]

i hope there's a topic about tudors not only to rolex, awesome reviews and insights about these keep it up

[@Watchtrader]

Feel free to ask the question for the next one and we’ll talk about it 👊

[@relosapulso]

@@Watchtrader will do :) thanks

[@tromboostofficial]

The AP Offshore with the smoked dial I agree! I got it and I am so so happy about it🔥✨

[@Watchtrader]

Congrats man, great timepiece

[@tromboostofficial]

@@Watchtrader thank you very much guys!! Great video as well! Love it. Keep it up.

[@jamesthomas4710]

I just sold my rolex sub blue gold recently for a healthy profit, though it was on the advice as nows the time as markets on the whole are starting to "settle" as my watch dealer friend put it.

[@KC14109]

Another great video guys. Harry has come on leaps and bounds with his watch knowledge over the last year.

[@Watchtrader]

Glad to have you as a viewer to see the progression. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in the comments as always 🙏

[@benlee8697]

Really enjoyed that Q&A session thank you gents. Thanks for reading out my question. I ended up changing to Starbucks mk1 bezel, hopefully the right call. The question now is whether to add a bluesy or to PX Starbucks for a panda..

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for getting involved Ben and congrats on your Starbucks purchase. Give it some time and see if your feeling about the watch changes, then decide

[@CallumRoberts17]

What’s peoples thoughts on a 2009 GMT master ii bi-metal? Black face, stainless steel with yellow gold. Do these watches perform well when selling on?

[@ameza357]

I bought one in 2016 for $7200 US. Sold it back to the dealer I got it from in 2020 for 10,5. Currently it trades between 13, 5 and 18 US depending on condition

[@Watchtrader]

If you compare it to the bi-metal Rootbeer, they do not command the same market price. However, if you compare the RRP in 2009 with the current market price, you’ll be doing alright 👌

[@CallumRoberts17]

@@Watchtrader thanks for your reply. I’ve been offered the watch for £10,500 Box & papers, recent rolex service. Excellent condition. I think the similar watches I’m seeing in the market are around 12k ish

[@CallumRoberts17]

@@ameza357 that’s good. I’m really tempted to get one. Thanks for your reply.

[@casa2109]

I agree. Another great, fun, informative episode! Thank you!

[@TattoosAndGin]

Very professional.

[@vinster666]

5711 white dial is the business. Stunning watch

[@Watchtrader]

Will we see the while dial return in the future on a 5811…?

[@itsallrobbish]

Wow, I was offered a genuine Moonwatch for £2k 4 years ago! My DW5200 G-Shock (October 1984)is vintage, then?

[@vintagecrazyjay4970]

Shout out from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma! Great channel! Cheers!

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for tuning in from across the pond!

[@Islandchris242]

Same, boring/lame questions. These “investment” folks need to move on to the next fad. “Which watch will I make money on” is getting very, very old

[@Watchtrader]

Feel free to ask a question for the next one and hopefully we can talk about something you’ll enjoy. Have a good weekend

[@ianmanfren1003]

Loving the mid week crack lads!

[@Watchtrader]

Pleased to hear it Ian!

[@MarcoS-im7ke]

Great video guys! One of the best watch channels nowadays 🏆

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for tuning in 👊

[@MarcoS-im7ke]

Keep up the good work boys and please do not add luxury cars, politic… Some fashion advices from Hendo are welcome😅 😉

[@rputeraanwar]

Thanks for making my evening!

[@Watchtrader]

Our pleasure!

[@wh0l]

Guys can we get Hendo to do some more outfit/car pairings with watches? Loved that feature last time out

[@pruteanu6]

Keep going with Q&A !!!

[@Watchtrader]

Appreciate the feedback

[@zr7083]

Fantastic show guys .. especially to see a new one mid-week .. 😊👍

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for letting us know

[@draganbalzic4493]

Rolex price increases over the last 30 years have outpaced inflation by 50%. In other words, a watch that sold for $3000 in 1993 should sell for $6338 today based on inflation but that same watch is now selling for $9000-$10000. The Explorer II is the perfect example of this reality as it’s not using ceramic parts and it’s nearly identical to the product produced in 1993

[@david.9633]

Thanks for the episode

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for watching

[@Jannerjaunts]

Enjoyed that boys 👌

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for letting us know

[@phantpwr]

I tried to get a bluesy at the AD. Was a no go. Oh well.

[@BIG2hats]

I have come across tons of people, myself included, where the DJ doesn’t fit right in neither the 36 or 41. Personally, the 36 is far too small and the 41 looks like a dinner plate. The 41 OP looks even bigger for some reason. A 38/39mm would be just right for a lot of people.

[@Watchtrader]

The oyster perpetual whilst still 41, has a larger dial compared to the Datejust. That in addition to the lack of date contributes to the larger appearance. A 39mm DJ would be amazing

[@RichMitch]

My question first up! 💪🏻

[@RichMitch]

Excellent answers! Thank you gents!

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for getting involved 🙏

[@shindilal3311]

Very enjoyable, well done

[@Watchtrader]

Glad to read that. Have a good weekend

[@Niloy63]

I always thought 25+ years was classic, and 50+ years was vintage.

[@sladewilson6811]

The guy w laptop Wc he wearing Fluted or smooth ? Date ?

[@Watchtrader]

Datejust 41 Fluted, Jubilee, Wimbledon Dial

[@jordanc9169]

But the Datejusg 41 already measures under 40 sooo idk

[@Watchtrader]

Maybe a 39mm would measure under 39mm too…

[@paolog.spinato7869]

Thanks for the answer guys! Cheers from Italy

[@Watchtrader]

Our pleasure, thanks for getting involved with the Q&A

[@MarcoMasseria]

What language do you think they are speaking? I notice those of African decent. Maybe they're in South Africa.

[@BAF605]

Good one. Thanks Guys!!

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for watching

[@johnpeters4268]

Great content as always!

[@Watchtrader]

We appreciate the feedback 🙏

[@Jasperroodog]

Hendo is a legend

[@Watchtrader]

🍻to that

[@Jasperroodog]

the oldest legend at watchtrader !!!!!

[@greggeorgiou52]

Great episode 😊

[@Watchtrader]

Thanks for watching Greg

[@f1watcher445]

Love these videos....very informative!! Keep them coming : )

[@Watchtrader]

Appreciate the feedback - more to come!

[@jeeves951]

Another great episode

[@Watchtrader]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@robfryer9962]

Great content 👍🏻

[@Watchtrader]

Glad you liked it

[@cd1934]

With Rolex watches!, the customer will always lose money!, the Dealers won’t tell you that !, but that’s the Fact of the game!.

[@florianvoigtlander2046]

43mm white gold AP Offshore music edition Daydate platinum with arabic dial or GMT Master II white gold meteorite dial Patek Philippe 6002R Sky Moon Tourbillon

[@Watchtrader]

You’d like our opinions on them?

[@florianvoigtlander2046]

@@Watchtrader i'd love to!

[@florianvoigtlander2046]

But it was also a reference of which to chose if u can only take one from AP, Rolex and Patek, like u have done in your video.

[@DonAl9114]

People should buy a watch because of its looks and quality. To only buy as an investment is totally nonsense. During my life I bought many Swiss watches and I enjoyed them all. Some I kept and some I sold. Some lost lots of value and only a few increased in value. Why is it so important that a watch increases in value….? I don’t see the point.. 😊😊

[@rebeccawarren2976]

Watchfinder offers loans and financial plans. Guys are you thinking about it? For example I pay a deposit of £5000 for Explorer 36 and then you give me a loan with financial plan so I could pay the rest in lets say 12 months.

[@Watchtrader]

🤔 Food for thought

[@FOX6819]

Was it Lee Westwood ?

[@Watchtrader]

🤫

[@jonstuart4991]

jack asks the difference between the newmarket to second hand market !?....you cant race a horse on the second hand market jack!

[@WatchReporter]

what language are they speaking?

[@stevejukic8166]

Why are people buying watches which can not afford. Watches are to be worn and not kept in a drawer at home.

[@lexzoolia1]

Oisin should pay Ratso

[@RolexDSSD]

Rolex Comex

[@AICH810]

The Secondary Gray Watch Market is Dead 💀

[@Watchtrader]

When did that happen?

[@LoganChannelVr]

It’s happening. Before your eyes. Worried?

[@Watchtrader]

😂

[@johnwhittle-mp2ti]

Same old same old , rolex only for old men 🤣🤣

[@Watchtrader]

Is that true?

[@chrisdrake331]

👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻😉

[@Watchtrader]

Cheers Chris

[@ameza357]

Sea dwellaaa!

[@maverick4177]

If you are buying watches purely for trying to make money off people you are a vulture, same as trainer flippers etc