Will Turkey EVER Join the EU?

Turkey is the European Union's oldest candidate member. Since 1999, the EU and Turkey have been in talks to allow the country to join and redefine the borders of Europe. 24 years on, and it still doesn't look like their accession is likely. Why? In this video, we cover what's stopping Turkey from joining the EU and whether anything is likely to change soon.
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Source 1: BBC News, Macron tells Erdogan: No chance of Joining EU www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...
Source 2: GMF, Turkish Perceptions of the European Union
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Source 3: Wikipedia, Accession of Turkey to the EU
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Source 4: Euroobserver, Turkey will never be part of Europe
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Source 5: Reuters, US Turkey EU Erdogan
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Source 6: European Parliament, Turkey further from EU Values and Standards
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Source 7: European Parliament, EU and Türkiyes History
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Source 8: Macrons ‘Non’ to Enlargement
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[@EUMadeSimple]

The official spelling is Türkiye. Sorry for forgetting the Umlaut (dots) above the "u" in the video.

[@EmperorZelos]

Given what a bunch of arses they are, no

[@vladavuckic5262]

Oh boi, Belgium speaking about Christianity while committing horrible genocides in Africa. What hypocrisy 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@petrbelohoubek6759]

i like how Czech have same color as Autria :-)

[@irgendwer3610]

Turkey*

[@Eoin-B]

@@irgendwer3610 This! Just as the English speaking world calls Deutschland, Germany. A country can't tell us what it's English name is.

[@cemcicek4911]

As a Turkish I want to say, we don't wanna join, and Eu never accepts us, I dont wanna see this topic anymore, I am tired of this.

[@makavelimaka8035]

Better so!

[@Hasanbas-rv3vm]

@@makavelimaka8035Europe will collapse anyway to many migrants

[@firetruck5339]

this is cool dude. Armenia and Georgia will take your place in the EU!)))

[@Hasanbas-rv3vm]

@@firetruck5339 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 never gonna happen

[@user-sb1vf1sr7s]

@@firetruck5339 In such a scenario, we would close the Black Sea.

[@irgendwer3610]

The EU needs to reform the voting systems and also ellaborate a way to curb rogue states within the EU that decide to go against its principles

[@SP95]

So what are the EU's principles ?

[@EUMadeSimple]

I think I need to do a video on QMV

[@irgendwer3610]

@@SP95 roughly speaking free trade, democracy and integration

[@Player-re9mo]

@@SP95 Whatever powerful Western European countries decide they are.

[@falsevacuum4667]

​@@Player-re9mo No, Eastern European countries further have a voice as they develop and embody key issues like security.

[@khan_akhndv]

1:00 There is actually a small border between Azerbaijan and Turkey in Nakhichevan.

[@Tommmmi768]

Not in our lifetime.

[@amos_melkersson]

Thanks you guys so much for all the content you make! I find ut both entertaining and important that you exist, making the EU more available for us all.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Thank you so much Amos. Thats an awesome gesture and will help us finance future videos :). Great to have you onboard and thank you for watching our videos 🙏🎉

[@ProudToBrotherWithJapans]

Brics are better

[@evanpaju8500]

@@ProudToBrotherWithJapans Not really EU is alot better in terms of quality

[@ft485]

Technically Cyprus is located in Asia but it is often considered to be culturally and politically a part of Europe. France borders Latin American countries as well, also the UK and France have many overseas islands scattered around the world, therefore I don't think being on and only on Europe is a key matter. And I don't think Georgia or Armenia would be denied applications although they are fully or partially in Asia since they are Christian states with closer cultural ties to other EU states.

[@mariosathens1]

and Malta in Africa? These are island-states in the Mediterranean Sea.

[@ft485]

@@mariosathens1 Malta lies on the African continental shelf as well as Sicily, both of them are politically European, both of them were cut off from Africa and Muslim rule when they switched hands. Tunisian people say they somewhat understand the Maltese language, the only semitic language written in Latin alphabet.

[@mariosathens1]

@@ft485 i believe you follow strict geographical rules that do not apply to Oceans/Seas... The Mediterranean Sea belongs to no continent, so its island-states and island=nations. All the Mediterranean island-nations have a rich and old History but all of them were deeply connected with Europe and not with Asia or Africa. Anyway, we might say the same thing using different words... Strictly technically you might be right but as i said before, the Mediterranean islands belong to the European side.. I am saying this because i read comments by people who say that "Turkey can become a member of the Union since Cyprus is a member too" and i find this comparison unfair.

[@user-uy3gt8mu1l]

Cyprus is European CULTURE HISTORY RELIGION LANGUAGE and PEOPLE.. IT is in EU and 100% EUROPEAN! NOT asian like turkey is !

[@user-tk1hr8nj2b]

When you say isolated and Asia what do you mean. Of course Cyprus have a very important geographical position in Mediterranean sea ,but its by its self a country with its own parliament and geographical educational and cultural and linguistic informations that its similar to Greek and Tourkish or Arabic and English in different place or areas of the country.A mixture of cultural linguistic society . Similarities with the Scandinavians ,the Balkan the central European countries, and Spanish and Latino with South America, and I am sure those in other continental units have same issues. As the schools are more multicultural populist or pluralism I am sure the society have more important problems to solve.

[@StraightShot93]

Bir türk olarak avrupa birligine girmeyi desteklemiyorum. Avrupa birligi bize her zaman cifte Standard uyguladi. Bu kriterlerin bir cogunu ne romanya ne de bulgaristan karsiliyordu. Ayrica avrupa birligi kibrisi üye yaparak kendi yazdiklari kanuna uymadilar. Biz avrupa ile dost ve müttefik olabiliriz ama bir kamusal birlik altinda bulusamayiz. Türkiye artik yoluna türk birligi ile ilerlemeli. Bu birligi güclendirip genisletmeliyiz.

[@javanava8925]

And why would we take you when you vote for the dictator Erdogan for the past 2 decades? Thousands of innocent people imprisoned for what? A lot of them highly educated people, journalists! And on this elections he won over 49%!! Almost sure he will win this elections in the second round. It's sad...

[@caneed]

Peki bunun icin bastaki bir sey yapiyor mu

[@MYHONESTREACTION400]

Indeed things such as democracy, western values and European culture are completely incompatible with MENA countries like Turkey

[@TheXR1200]

Glad islam and freedom does not fit together

[@ougiz325]

turkey is not europe and never will be

[@dannyatthebeach]

with the chaos Turkiye's membership has been causing in NATO already, I cannot imagine the EU wanting any part of that, especially not before its current leaders, like Erdogan, are out...

[@rustix3]

I think that Turkey causing chaos in NATO came after realization that they would never be in EU, so why bother being friendly anyway.

[@orar6435]

Erdoğan came to power by the support of the USA and transform democratic turkey, to today's turkey in the name of making laws compatible to EU.

[@selfcrash]

​@@rustix3 My country know that many many year ago. Just Erdoğan was try again in the 2005 or around. EU mean touch inside Turkiye politics and Erdoğan don't wanna this. All government when before leader say we will work for join EU but after if winner they start fight with EU. Because Turkish politics wanna relation come to money our economy sell something to Europe. so EU win Türkiye win. But Turkish people lose only in this case. because we are the gate opening Asia,Russia, Eurasia even some Arabic countries. So Türkiye giving easy pass to EU business man and Turkish politics man or woman going to rich. '' Because they are using their kid, relatives for open company and giving tenders'' Cheap work good deal. We are not like other nation if you give same right to Turkish. Turkish people will use all human rights. '' I mean search and using every point'' maybe that's why we have like this politic problem because people always search and find easy way for everything. this is our curse. Since there are too many people who think of their own interests rather than society, governments that can bring some good laws do not emerge. Because everyone is an opportunist. If you are earning good money from a restaurant, a Turk will open the same to the bottom of the income and another Turkish will open the same restaurant next to

[@mehmetasilgonultas5025]

@@rustix3 indeed. Erdoğan's foreign policy completely focused on being an ally to the West, supporting The US, EU, and Israel on any platform. UN even held a referendum in Cyprus to solve the problem and Turkey supported that idea strongly but the greek Cypriots rejected it. I hate Erdoğan so much but he tried to be a good friend of the EU. Despite the efforts EU just wasn't that friendly and that pushed Erdoğan to a more agressive foreign policy.

[@adamwnt]

@@mehmetasilgonultas5025 well I hope you gonna vote responsibly then as erdogan wreaked your economy as well by enacting ridiculous policies of interest rates etc etc, what you say about Cyprus is correct and I wish to see us from the EU as friends with you guys but please solve your internal issues and stop being a hostage to Nato candidates, this problem must be solved too asap my friend.

[@ObamaBinLaden792]

As a kurd, thank you for the informative video. There are many reasons why Turkey cannot be accepted into the EU. Socio-cultural structure of Turks, refugee problem, religion, negativities with Europe etc. for reasons such as. Other than that, the best thing could be in close relations with the European Union. A rapprochement like Canada and Norway would be nice. Turkey's entry into the EU will do nothing but bring harm to both sides.

[@TR-ry3cn]

"Cultural, Religion" ..That doesn't sound like the European spirit though.. There are better reasons for Turkiye not to join this club.

[@Mehrdad.65]

You're right CAN

[@anaskhoiri3653]

Turkey should be can as shield of refuges to other Union member if EU smart them should take turkey as member meaning less refuges to other members

[@modoru1007]

I Don't Think Canada Will Look Eu More.. Neutral

[@strongpizza]

iki taraf için zarar olmaz kanka tr için yararlı olacaktır

[@francescot5012]

Mi entute subtenas la aliĝon de Turkio en la EU. 🇪🇺 Turkio estas certe parto de nia riĉa historio, ekde jarcentoj (mi pensas, ekzemple, pri la Bizanca Imperio kiu estis la Romia Imperio de la Oriento, kaj pri la Otomana Imperio). Tamen, mi konsentas kun vi, kiam vi diras ke kun la nuna registaro la aliĝo de Turkio estos tre malverŝajna.

[@atakanpayman]

Could not agree more. Ignoring a big country like Turkey because of an authoritarian government would not benefit both sides. Turkey is much bigger than Erdoğan.

[@francescot5012]

Ĉaŭ, @Ajsunrehto Ouhjtts! Vere ne: mi estas italo, jes, sed la lingvo kiun mi uzas ĉi tie estas Esperanto. Mi ŝatas skribi en Esperanto en Jutubo, ĉar mi parolas la lingvon kaj al mi plaĉas uzi ĝin de tempo al tempo por komenti filmetojn kiujn mi vidas. Ĝis ĝis!

[@apollonmagg4603]

​@@atakanpayman till the government changes then

[@BorisYerkhov]

@Ajsunrehto Ouhjtts no it's esperanto

[@rock6334]

Thanks bro! 🇹🇷🇪🇺🇹🇷🇪🇺🇹🇷🇪🇺

[@ugurrr]

Cyprus (100% Asia geographically) is a member and Georgia (pretty Asian if not completely) is an official candidate now. This argument aged like a bottle of milk under the sun.

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

Ultimately it depends on if they can add benefit to the union without being overly disruptive and have the pros outweigh the cons. I think its pretty clear that they would be a net drain on the union with the amount of eu funds they would need and the political influence they sould have. also having the EU border syria isnt a great idea

[@Cemm1905]

Even Sweden is in the EU, every country knows that Sweden is a terrorist supporting state

[@mrantipatia1872]

Turkey would be one of the most important members for sure, the problem its issue with conservatism and democracy

[@user-ox9ez8rd2x]

It wouldn't work. They rejected Sweden from joining NATO, aren't in Europe, have extremely different core values, leaders like geert Wilder gaining power, the prejudice against turkey from a lot of Europeans and fear that they'll get Turkish immigrants. As a British person I fully support them joining.

[@makavelimaka8035]

@@mrantipatia1872 We fought Turcks througout history to defend Europe! We don't need them here nor we want them !!!

[@charlesdarwin1938]

cyprus is all in asia but seems to be in europe

[@mariosathens1]

Cyprus in in the Meditteranean Sea,,, Would you call Malta an African country?

[@diospatriayrey7982]

​​@@mariosathens1 yes. Any question?

[@PradedaCech]

The "tiny 3% of landmass" is actually bigger than several EU member states by size and population (around 10-11 million). So Thracia by itself would not be the smallest member state by far. The economic and cultural heart of the country is based there.

[@user-si8cf2we5w]

seriously this is why turkey should join the EU?because turkey has more population?do you even know what the EU is ?besides turkey dont even fulfill the standard to join EU.and secondly by threating members of the EU and insulting almost all EU members does erdo really expect EU will accept turkey?besides EU doesnt need turkey,turkey need the EU

[@Barkevergulsen1713]

As a Turk, I don't want my country to be a part of the union who uses us as an open refugee camp. Even though it would be crucial for the economy. I just would not prefer being in a union who would decide everything for us.

[@EUMadeSimple]

How do you think we can solve the refugee isse together?

[@Barkevergulsen1713]

@@EUMadeSimple Well, the opposition party here in Turkey vows to deport around %99 percent of the asylum seekers and illegal migrants back to the middle east within 2 years. This means they are going to break the refugee agreement with the EU. This might severe the relations but it will definitely help Turkey recover from this economical and political crisis.

[@froglifes6829]

As someone in the EU i dont want Turkey, the poor nation that plays with the lives of the refugee people, begs for EU money to keep the refugee people, in the end lets a bunch of refugee to europe, changes the demohraphic of certain regions by sending massive amount of turkish people to "colonize" the land, run by a dictator erdogan, poorer and less developed than eastern europe...etc

[@Beerr-iz4gm]

​@@EUMadeSimple we cant solve just send back

[@Barkevergulsen1713]

@@Beerr-iz4gm That means solving the crisis.

[@LuthienwithoutBeren]

Thank you for mentioning Türkiye with its new name in your video. Unfortunately, most people do not have this sensitivity or knowledge.

[@Skankhunt668]

I mean it's a dumb name

[@LuthienwithoutBeren]

@@Skankhunt668I didn't ask your opinion broflovski

[@cagatayberkay5681]

I think the first "main challenge" does not really matter since Cyprus is part of the EU...

[@Imunknown7848]

Really? Well no the main challenges will remain main challenges because eu will keep rejecting turkey on entering eu if they don’t end and pass these challenges and about cyprus remember turkey invaded north and not all cyprus is in eu

[@cagatayberkay5681]

@@Imunknown7848 What a whataboutism! I point out Cyprus’s geographical situation rather than its political issues. Geographically speaking, it is an Asian country, not a European one. Also, Turkey has proved that it was ready to solve the problem in Cyprus with Annan’s Plan in order to join the union. And you know what happened? Greeks voted against it.

[@Imunknown7848]

@@cagatayberkay5681 ok then

[@teomcam]

As a Turk glad membership not happening. Turkish government also have zero interest. Sometimes they throw and say we want eu to mock with eu

[@axelscharf2415]

😂😂😂 Your government is constantly asking to become a EU member ! Why ? Because Erdogan wants our $$$ . Turkey would become forever the biggest receiver of EU Funds .

[@codershindo2727]

As a Turk I don't want to join after so many things.

[@ArdaM373]

​@ptsd1696Bizde sizi istemiyoruz

[@ArdaM373]

Truee

[@axelscharf2415]

As a european nobody ever wanted Turks to join the EU . Turkey would become for decades the biggest receiver of EU Funds . Why would we built up Turkey just to realize afterwards we fucked ourselves over ? I mean you Turks believe you are a Superpower that has the right to threaten countries like Greece with invasion every time Erdogan needs attention. Also it must be said Turks have no european heritage . Furthermore their is a Historical memories of Turks trying to enslave Europe fir centuries.

[@75davide47]

Thank you for this video. Will you ever make a video on the pros and cons of a fiscal union?

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yes. Federalism is on the agenda. You will see those coming again soon

In 1998, a group of around 160 German economists and professors published an open letter expressing their concerns about the introduction of the Euro as the common currency for the European Union. This letter, known as the "Euroskeptic Manifesto" or "Euro Manifesto," was published in various newspapers, including the German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. The signatories of the letter argued that the Euro would be a risky endeavor, leading to economic instability and potential political tensions. They were worried that the European countries differed too much in terms of their economic structures and fiscal policies for a single currency to be effective. They were also concerned that the lack of a central fiscal authority would lead to issues with monetary policy coordination

[@oneasiaworld4609]

Amazing graphics 😮

[@EUMadeSimple]

Thank you !! :)

[@nostro1940]

There are already 15 million turks in the EU. 14.99 million too many

[@nathansmith7686]

Least racist European

[@nostro1940]

​@@nathansmith7686racism is Turkish 2nd trait. Hypocrisy is 1st

[@atatanriverdii]

As a Turk I don't think that Türkiye will be a member of the European Union, at least for the moment, especially if we examine the demographics of Türkiye this becomes more impossible. Türkiye is too European to be eastern, too eastern to be European, too southern to be northerly, too northern to be southerly. I mean, the fact that Türkiye is a geopolitically intercontinental country is also reflected in the demographics (I'm not saying this in a negative way), but I think that the Secularization Policies of the New Government, which is expected to come after the elections, will contribute to the positive course of relations with the European Union. As a result, I don't think my country can become a member of the European Union for now, but I can't say anything about the future.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Interesting comment. Thanks. What is the general mood in Turkey? Do you want to be closer to the EU? Or not?

[@atatanriverdii]

@@EUMadeSimple Actually, this is a topic that can be discussed at length, but if I need to summarize briefly, Turkiye has a very complicated structure as I mentioned in my previous comment. In general, my thoughts and observations in Turkiye, the majority of generation z, which I am in, feel that they belong to Europe and support being a member of the European Union. when we go to the middle age groups, this rate is half. On the other hand, we see that the elderly population is a religious segment that adheres to their traditions. The issue of membership to the European Union comes to the fore in the regions that actually make up the majority of Turkiye, such as in the west of Turkiye (Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir) and in the provinces where the Kurdish majority lives. In the inner parts of Turkiye which is generally unknown, there is an environment that we can call a traditional religious anti-European Union. What I'm more curious about is the contrasts between the z generation, of which 30% of whom are non-religious and the traditional elderly. this affects us in every sense and because of this, I think that Turkiye will undergo a radical change in the coming years. this is expected to be reflected in the elections this year, and in fact, I believe that this new generation will have a say in time. Maybe not right now, but I think that in the coming years, especially in 1-2 months, with the change of government, relations with the European Union will be more positive and some things will change.

[@aliatack19]

@@atatanriverdii AKP'nin gideceğine çok eminsiniz. Umarım her şey güzel olur ancak ben şüpheliyim.

[@Ydogru88]

@@atatanriverdii so non of the Eu demands matter?your perspective is excluding political interests of the Turkish nation.Middle age group or elderly groups in Turkiye are not just religios or traditional,they also do not want to give up on Cyprus,dont want to let a Kurdistan in southeast,they are not happy with hypocrasy of Eu nations,Turkiye is much more advance and democratic and stronger than half the states in Eu atm,but why are they in and Turkiye not?it is not as simple as you see it mate

[@ldesigner392]

I understand your perspective on Turkey's potential EU membership and the role of the new government. However, I believe it's important to consider that the new government's intentions may not be as genuine as they seem. It's possible that their focus on improving relations with the EU could merely be an election strategy to gain support, rather than a genuine commitment to Turkey's best interests. Moreover, it's essential to critically analyze the influence of external countries on the new government's policies. For instance, the United States might have a significant role in shaping their decisions, which could result in Turkey becoming a "puppet" rather than an independent actor. This situation raises concerns about the potential erosion of Turkish sovereignty and decision-making capabilities. The mainstream media and Western cultural influence might have shaped your opinions, but I would encourage you to study history and observe the patterns of such interactions. This would enable you to form a more informed opinion on the matter. Unfortunately, governments often make promises but fail to deliver, which could result in a deteriorating foreign policy and negative consequences for Turkey. In conclusion, while the future of Turkey's EU membership remains uncertain, it's crucial to stay vigilant and evaluate the new government's actions and motivations critically. Otherwise, we might find ourselves longing for the current administration under Erdogan and regretting our choices.

[@emrekubalas6724]

Firstly, thanks for the video. I remember when I asked for a video regarding Türkiye. Happy to see it! However, I believe it needs a little more. Firstly, we are aware that the EU is a club, and in order to be part of a club, we have to meet some standards, also known as the Copenhagen Criteria. Unfortunately, Türkiye is fading away from the EU values since 2013. There is a fact that the longer it takes for the EU accession negotiations, the more possible for the candidate country to get under the influence of Russia. Just like the examples of Türkiye and Serbia. I see that Türkiye has a very diverging foreign policy in many aspects with the EU, especially regarding Russia. However, I ask for my European friends to bear the fact that our neighbors are Syria, Iran, and Iraq. Not Spain, France, or Switzerland. Russia has a huge influence on Türkiye's neighborhood, just like the US. In fact, whatever happens in the Middle East is because of the US. It is impossible for a country in the Middle East not to cooperate with Russia to ensure its national security. Regarding the issues with Cyprus, well there is literally nothing that was not written or said to overcome the issue. The EU accepted Cyprus as a member country even though Cyprus rejected Kofi Annan's Annan Plan. Now, Cyprus has a chip to use it against Türkiye. Türiye's stance on Cyprus will never change since it is a national issue. I For last, I believe, as Turkish citizens, we have to fight for our democracy. We have to comply with the Copenhagen criteria, improve our economic situation, and promote good neighborly relations. We have to do it regardless of a full-EU membership since the process of becoming an EU member is as important as a full-EU membership. The EU, on the other hand, applies double standards when it comes to Türkiye, which is understandable based on their interests and stance. Who knows, maybe things change for both parties and we can find a common ground. A couple of years before, nobody envisaged Ukraine as a part of the EU, now everybody supports its membership. You cannot deny the Turkish economy's potential or demographics if it becomes eligible for EU membership. I think the most important message here is that do not take your democracy for granted. We are not recognized as a full democracy anymore even though we are among the first countries that gave women the right to elect or be elected. Things could change in an instant, even in a democracy...

[@emrekubalas6724]

And as an extra comment, the EU is not a Christian Union. It is a Union of diversity and equality, and it is stronger with more diverse opinions. In Christianism, you cannot marry the same sex or you cannot have pre-marriage sex, whereas these are legal and very dominant in the EU. Using the religion argument is quite pointless actually. Research shows that a Turkish person has only 7% Turkish genes in his DNA. Original Turks came from Asia. After many marriages with the Western world during the Ottoman Empire, we started to have Western genes and heritage. In some sources, Turks are also considered as Muslim Romans. So, again, we are not living in a different geography or culture.

[@kasadam85]

@@emrekubalas6724 I don't know which research that is but our central Asian roots vary from a region to another. It's not as low as 7% everywhere. Obviously we're pretty mixed but that's not exclusive to our nation and we're definitely not wannabe Europeans. Putting the common heritage we Turkish people adopted into account, we technically see ourselves more Asian than European. On the other hand, In all Europe / Asia continent related maps that exhibit all sorts of statistics, it is apparent that our country is always at the corner or edge of the maps. Too eastern to be west, too western to be east.

[@ahmadfraz9211]

Which standards are you talking about ? Romania and Bulgaria both have severe corruption problem and still the part of EU. These both were not stable than Turkiye at the time of joining the EU union.

[@ismailyaskesen3663]

@@ahmadfraz9211 shot up

[@abelnicolae]

@@ahmadfraz9211 :)) Unlike you people, we grabbed our dictator and shot him and his wife. And held democratic elections ever since (true democratic, not elections that chose the same president over and over again). Corruption is everywhere my friend, but for now, Turkey's situation is way worse than Romania's or Bulgaria's. When you turks grow a pair of balls and get rid of Erdogan... then we can begin talking about the EU, not before.

[@europeroads]

Nice video :)

[@mariosathens1]

i really can't understand why some people call Cyprus an Asian state? This means that Malta is an African state? Both are Mediterranean island-states. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@diospatriayrey7982]

Because they are

[@lokiraconu8958]

it was part of anatolian peninsula

[@enesmaul]

Because it is on the same meridian as Anatolia and Africa.

[@dariusalexandru9536]

God please ,no .

[@basedserbian100]

I would say very unlikely in the soon future

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yes we agree

[@sergenatil2273]

İstemiyorum abi AB falan yetti cidden

[@mikel9138]

Not gonna happen Turkey is known to be expansionist and will try everything to get more land Europe doesnt need that kind of burden

[@goese868]

this isn't 1939 no nato country is going to annex a bunch of land, also i have never heard of turkiye being "expansionist", quite the opposite actually

[@mikel9138]

@@goese868 Syria, Cyprus, Greece

[@goese868]

@@mikel9138 those are the names of there nations

[@goese868]

@@techtutorvideos yeah because my argument is just so redicolus

[@prohacker5086]

Germany is known more to be an expansionist rather than Turkey. Turkish national borders haven't changed since 1939, Germany on the other hand😏

[@mehmetyigit5157]

Europe:i think türkiye is asian Mean while cyprus:🗿🗿🗿

[@godkingemperor9782]

why is Georgia consider part of Europe when they are east of Turkey?

[@iako...]

Because its Europe.

[@tamarigabaidze3718]

Georgia is located in the north of Turkey, not in the east

[@Salsaman34]

Sure, Cyprus in Europe, right 😅 And Georgia too! According to you, at least 3% of Turkey in Europe.

[@aarengraves9962]

nobody gives a cr@p that 3% of Turkey is in Europe, because 97% is located in Asia

[@OrolesMagnus]

I don't know if adding Turkey to the EU is possible, but better economic ties and maybe even bring this country to the Schengen area sometime in the future would be useful.

[@quailking8265]

I sorta agree - Turkey in the EEA and Schengen like Norway would be nice - Turkey with have access to single market and freedom of movement.

[@froglifes6829]

@@quailking8265 Turkey population is too large and diverse to be in the schengen.

[@quailking8265]

@@froglifes6829 now I know you are a racist!

[@nostro1940]

yeah turks want nothing more than schengen so they can all invade Germany like a tsunami

[@utku_baloglu]

@@froglifes6829 so what do you mean?

[@emreunalir]

We own a small piece of Continental Europe. However, we need to look at this issue from a different perspective. Only 8-10 million people live in the European part of the city of Istanbul every day. This means that the European part of Turkey is more crowded than many countries. Also, when we focus on our historical past, we see that the center of the Turkish Empire is not in Asia, but in Europe. With the collapse/dissolution of the empire, 1-1.5m from the Balkans (according to the American studies) Turkish/Muslim people living in the Balkans migrated to Anatolia (reverse migration) and affected the demographic structure of Anatolia. Although we can see intense Middle Eastern signs in Turkish culture, we can see that Turkish culture and cuisine is not much different from the Balkan region. This makes Turkey, like the Hungarian and Finnish peoples, European. In addition, in the period from the foundation of the Turkish Empire to the millennium, Turks were heavily influenced and influenced by Europe.

[@gokhanarslancan9873]

AS A TURKISH CITIZEN, I DON'T WANT TÜRKİYE TO ENTER THE EUROPEAN UNION. AFTER THIS HOUR, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR TÜRKİYE. IF IT HAS BEEN PURCHASED ALREADY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WAIT AT THE DOOR FOR 50 YEARS. LET THE EUROPEAN UNION BE HONEST AND SAY WE ARE NOT BUYING TÜRKİYE AND LET THIS COMEDY END.

[@turky6834]

i didn't know that the european union was a christian union. i thought it was a secular democracy. thank you for informing us.

[@cazwalt9013]

It's not Christian but its members are Christian countries and Europe is a Christian continent

[@juliansteffen5197]

Well Europe is a beautiful Christian Continent ✝️! I hope turkey never joins the EU

[@turky6834]

@Hello World @Hello World First of all ill give an example. Only %50 of Germany is Christian. In todays world most of the people doesn't believe in a religion both in Turkey and Europe and the laws havent been made based on religions. They've been made secularly and the government has no religion. We can claim that we cannot identify a country as muslim or Christian in that case. Secondly both Christianity and Islam was born and spread around the world from the same geography. They are both abrahamic religions. They support almost the same thing. There is not a big difference. So being an islamophobic or anti Christianity doesn't make any sense if you already believed one of these religions. Do you know how did the Christianity spread around the europe. christianity was once a Jewish sect. Europeans were pagans. After the roman empire most of the nations accepted christianity by force. And right now there is not one dominant religion in Europe. There are actually 3 different types of dominant religions. Catholics Orthodoxies and protestants. Europe is not united. Europe is not a race or a nation or a religion. Europe is a continent. If it wasn't a continent both north and south americans should also be european but they are not. Last one is; no one gives a shit about what erdogan says in turkey. Even the ones who voted for him. He's just bullshitting. turks are not the defender of islam or muslims. We even hate most of muslims like Arabs. We are defenders of our own race!

[@turky6834]

@Hello World in conclusion. I wanted to say that EU shouldn't identify as a Christian union. It should identify as a secular and democratic union if this is what they have been supported.

[@turky6834]

@Gf we are no longer living in the middle ages. We are living in the 21st century. Religion doesn't play a big role in this century. Not too much only a few years later the number of non-religious people will exceed the number of religious people. I want you to remind you that Christianity was born in the middle east. There are still so many christians in the middle east and north africa. Christianity doesn't belong to Europeans. European nations were once pagans. Roman empire made them christians by using force.

[@Turi6070]

As a Turk I believe partnership is better than full membership. Our country can act as a bridge between Asia and Europe politically and economically (like holding Russian Ukraine peace negations)or a transit country for land exports or imports between Asia to Europe 'china might love that')

[@alphakunt2862]

Türkiye denge politikası ile ilerleyen bi ulkedir ve hep öyle kalmak zorunda broo

[@Turi6070]

@@alphakunt2862 aynısını dedim zaten

[@alphakunt2862]

@@Turi6070 Sıkıntı yok o zaman bizdensin örgütümüze katılmak istermisin?

[@Turi6070]

@@alphakunt2862 örgüt?

[@alphakunt2862]

@@Turi6070 Beşiktaşlılar örgütü bu yıl şampiyon olacağımiza gönülden inanlar örgütü :) 😀

[@adamz7038]

Iceland is the most likely new member. Their polls already have majority support. Not sure why they don’t act about it, though it is Iceland.

[@EUMadeSimple]

I havent looked into Iceland. Do you know why they havent joined so far?

[@kattkatt744]

@@EUMadeSimple Fishing, joining the EU means Icland will have to give accsses to continental European fishing boats in waters they see as theirs alone. The fishing rights in the North Atlantic is such an issue that boats literally shot at each other with rifles.

[@EUMadeSimple]

@@kattkatt744 thanks. It makes sense. Definitely an interesting topic to look into for a video

[@submarino006]

In short: no Long: No

[@Davie506]

And honestly that’s for the best

[@goese868]

@@Davie506 why? racism?

[@Davie506]

@@goese868 no they make thing’s harder like look how long it took for the to let Finland and Sweden into nato that kinda stunt could kill the eu because it’s adding a problem the a very difficult puzzle not to mention the eu has way better options maybe when the multi layered eu becomes a thing I could see them being in the first tier but honestly if it was a perfect world I’d love for them to join and Georgia too even Russia but then again this isn’t a perfect world

[@EUMadeSimple]

I think the EU needs to consider reforming first. Long Term you never know

[@goese868]

@@Davie506 but it's the "in long:" that bugs me the wrong way, i get the critizisms of erdugan and such

[@Cocker-Lilaa]

Why don't you show many cathedrals in Türkiye in this video? It depends a bit on you how the EU wants to see or show Türkiye, Türkiye bordered with Bulgaria and Greece in the European part.

[@novvak168]

Great video!!!! It's really interesting. I agree, I don't think it's possible now, under Erdogan. It would be a mistake. In the future who knows. It's a really interesting topic. Maybe elections this year represent a turning point in Turkey (or maybe I just like to be optimistic). This is the best video I've seen on the topic and it takes 3:47, less then 4 minutes. I don't know how you do it! :)))

[@EUMadeSimple]

Thank you Novak ! Appreciate the comment and compliment. It is a lot of effort to get them so concise :). And I agree with you. Let's see what a new government will bring should Erdogan lose

[@erkantan2498]

I have an objection about Turkey's geography and historical & cultural relations with Western Europe. Can you discuss about the geography and culture of Malta, Rep.Cyrpus, Ireland, UK? Also, can you discuss about in which circumstances Eastern European Countries accepted to the union? I don't mention EU's attitude towards Ukrainian and non-Uranian refugees.... Finally, Can you mention about why the EU needs Turkey and why Turkey needs the EU? What will be the mutual benefits if Turkey becomes a member of the EU? Thanks in advance 🙏

[@ghiathbarry8976]

Turkey will never become a member of EU not in this life. Have a good day.

[@ufukcansimsek2959]

@@ghiathbarry8976 Back in 2008 2009 2010 Turkey was considered to be the rising star of europe. And that was with this current incompotent and corrupted goverment. So, lets not go ahead ourselves. But ı do agree that it is not possible in the near future.

[@alpmagirus]

​@@ufukcansimsek2959 what do you mean by the near future? turkey shouldnt be in eu at all we're very different from their culture and joining to eu will just cause harm to it. yes we should definitly reach eu standarts in many aspects such as democracy, economics, some human right issues but it shouldnt be a copy paste since we have our very own unique problems. in the future we should have visa-free traveling, more trade deals, more cooperation with them but joining would only harm both sides, also joining eu means strong and unnecessary changes to political realitions with our eastern neighbours too which really doesnt make much sense when we consider the fact that we have very long borders and high amounts of trades with them.

[@ufukcansimsek2959]

@@alpmagirus Whether joining to EU or not is an very easy issue solve if were to handle with the issues of human rigths, the cost of living and refugee crisis etc. Those are coming first. But if you just read my comment above you won"t see any mentioning to joining the EU right away.

[@alpmagirus]

@@ufukcansimsek2959 yukarıda da dediğim gibi şimdi veya sonra ab'ye katılmamız bize sadece zarar verir, tarafsız ve bölgesel güç olarak nitelendirilebilecek bir türkiyeyi başarmak doğuyla olan sınırımızı ve ekonomik ilişkilerimizi düşündüğümüzde çok daha gelişmiş hayat standartları sunacaktır. güney kore veya japonya gibi kültürel olarak batılı olmadığı halde bütün dünya tarafından batılı kabul edilen bir ülke olmak varken abye katılıp toprak bütünlüğünü ve komşu ülke ilişkilerini tehdit altında bırakmak mantıksız

[@chronerka432]

I think these reasons are dwarfed in comparison of Turkiye using asylum seekers as hostages to Greece and further EU. It's a great bargaining chip. If Turkey doesn't want to follow something it can find more migrants to send. I think joining the EU would make it worse.

[@SerdarKonca]

Well, the European Union promised that Turkey would host refugees in Turkey; Has Turkey fulfilled the visa exemption and Euro support packages for its citizens? A big no. He left Turkey alone with a huge refugee population of 5 million, how fair is that? Then I'm sorry my friend, if the refugees want to go to the EU, Turkey should not prevent it.

[@petrbelohoubek6759]

They first must leave Imperial ambitions.....

[@SerdarKonca]

@@petrbelohoubek6759 No, my friend, we do not have any imperial desires. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of Turkey, says that war is murder except for the defense of the homeland, but our Greek friends say every day that they want to re-establish the 'Great Byzantine Empire' and they use these flags in their armies. Turkey neither says such a thing nor uses such flags.

[@Hession0Drasha]

Well the necessary rule of law requirements to join the eu, would prevent it doing that anyway. It could just be kept out of schengen.

[@zedero8]

@@SerdarKonca when did the Greeks ever say that? Stop eating up your authoritarian state’s propaganda. Greece has NEVER said anything like that. It is Turkey that is acting extremely aggressively, with your dictator running around claiming Greek islands are being “occupied” by Greece, claiming Greek and Cypriot EEZ, making vague and silly threats in regards to “bombing Athens”, preventing Sweden from joining NATO, violating Greek airspace, bombing the Kurds in Syria, sending mercenaries to Artsakh, selling weapons to Libya etc.

[@leotravel85]

No please

[@beniburek]

Probably never, due to its huge size (Threat to Germany in parliament), secondly: its religion, third: civil rights are not at that level yet.

[@goese868]

i hate the religion argument so much, there is just so much racism and islamophobia oozing from it

[@nailil5722]

hopefully not 🤞

[@goese868]

why?

[@nailil5722]

@@goese868 it would shift the balance of power within the EU too much for its own good considering the fact that they are still a long way from being economically on par with western eu countries making them a huge expense to the union's budget. Also no matter the government they've had a weird imperialistic approach for the last century. Add to that the border disputes with Greece and Cypro and the fact that their population already doesn't integrate well in western countries and you can see for yourself how the cons outweigh the pros exponentially.

[@goese868]

@@nailil5722 🤞

[@overvieweffect9034]

even, and its counterpart never, are a really long time, and most people fail to even gasp that, so it's simply impossible to rule that out forever, and I really like how you alude to that in your videos. there're PLENTY of things that people said would never happen that eventually did. however, as mentioned, turkey joining the eu that's not gonna happen any time soon, not even decades from now, and it's even possible that by the time they'd be ready do join, we might even have moved beyond the need of a EUROPEAN union. but you never know

[@EUMadeSimple]

Long term a lot can happen :) . Common cause can unite a continent like nothing else.

[@falsevacuum4667]

This video is too brief imo. Regarding whether Turkey is a European country, you HAVE to mention the EU's "European perspective" policy. Whether a country is able to join the EU used to be that the broad idea of being a European country. Early on the countries involved were indisputably European. However, this all changed when Cyprus was being considered. Cyprus is a country 100% geographically Asian. However, EU member states agreed to accept its application due to having a European perspective. This means that it's basically up to EU countries to decide which countries count or not. Turkey and the Southern Caucuses have already been determined to have a European perspective and thus are all considered eligible European countries from the EU's perspective. This is without even mentioning the long historical presence of the Ottoman Empire in Europe or that the "small" part of Turkey geographically in Europe contains Istanbul, one of Europe's largest and most important cities historically and presently, holding nearly 20% of Turkey's population. On the political side, this doesn't matter. The reason is that obviously Turkey currently does not fulfill the Copenhagen criteria. It will never do so unless/until Erdogan loses power and the new government makes a 180 degree policy turn. However, this is not something that is uniquely Turkish as for example Georgia, a Christian country, also struggles with the same circumstance. It is however worth noting that the election coming up in a couple months both looks highly likely for Erdogan to lose and the united opposition have embodied this "180 degree policy u-turn" platform. Time will tell. Lastly, the enlargement stall is basically just a matter of time. In the next year or so there will be a new European constitutional convention to reform the treaties. In this reform they will further eliminate unanimity and prepare the EU for new members, both in terms of Ukraine but also the Western Balkans. These reforms will resolve this issue for all prospective applicants including Turkey.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Really interesting comment. Thank you. Firstly, the whole motto of the channel is "EU Made Simple". The initial script was a lot longer and more complicated but we cut it down in line with the channels vision :). Secondly, the EU Perspective Policy is very interesting. I also don't think georgraphy will hinder Turkey joining, but it still seems to be a big topic for debate. Thirdly, I would love to see another convention but what makes you so sure this will happen next year? Last summer more than 10 EU countries have openly stated they have no interest in reform. Even though the Conference on the future of Europe clearly indicated that there is interest from EU citizensm, I am doubtful we will have reform soon

[@falsevacuum4667]

@@EUMadeSimple Thank you for the reply. I understand this channel is meant to provide simple explanations to a wide audience, I just couldn't help myself from elaborating. The interesting thing geographically is that Turkey can join the EU yet be kept out of Schengen as long as the outer EU member states deem Turkey's border unsafe. If they can do so for as little as they do with Bulgaria and Romania, I see Turkey joining Schengen as 100x less likely than joining the EU. Lastly, the European Parliament and Commission as well as France and Germany have all expressed a strong desire for treaty reform. With the war in Ukraine and the issue of Hungary, this is ever more pressing. While those countries did express opposition, that was then and this is now. I think the outcome of Poland's election will have a big impact on reform efforts. If PiS loses, Hungary will be censured and the deadlock will ease. Lastly, those 10 countries are not enough to prevent a convention. With France+Germany supporting it, I can't see the reform not happening. It is more likely resistant countries will receive concessions or try to water down reforms than block it altogether.

[@EUMadeSimple]

@@falsevacuum4667 True. But to ratify a new Treaty you need unanimous support. That may become very difficult when there are so many countries openly against reform. Also, the reform we need is drastic - QMV for Foreign Policy and Fiscal Policy. That will not go down well with certain member States. Especially Hungary, as they currently use the VETO to get what they want. I hope you are right, but I see difficulty in achieving this. What are your thoughts on a multi-speed Europe? Where some integrate more while others dont?

[@falsevacuum4667]

@@EUMadeSimple With de facto Euro avoidance among 1/4 of EU member states, I would argue we already have a multi-speed Europe to a degree. I believe Enhanced Cooperation will become more prevalent. It is possible that many of these major reforms will be taken on by a portion of the member states first. The taboo against doing so has mostly eroded with Merkel leaving office.

[@fusionreactor7179]

Cyprus’ addition was also illegal because countries are supposed to solve their border disputes before joining, rules only apply when the Paris-Berlin axis want them to.

[@rustix3]

1:19 "Belgian prime minister ... claimed an Islamic nation would threaten the Christian values of the union". So by his logic Russia would make more sense?

[@AlexxAmadeo]

Since when does Russia have any values?

[@maskerade7258]

you do know that Russia is christian, right?

[@enjoymfs9715]

Belgians literally have no right to talk. We never forgot what belgium did to congo. It is the biggest genocide after native american genocide yet they still deny

[@emanueldelacruz1101]

Russia is actually European. If they like lgbtq rights they would be already accepted

[@Engege491]

​@@emanueldelacruz1101no...

[@bartusvermeulen4018]

Never! It has a very undemocratic government. The human rights record is appalling

[@SerdarKonca]

My dear friend, I would like you to investigate how Greece, a country of the European Union, pierced the refugee boats in the middle of the sea and threw them to the side of Turkey and left those refugees to die. '2The human rights record is appalling''. Are refugees not human too? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6vPoZ6se9SJic0

[@falsevacuum4667]

Better the day never in its current state. Erdogan is set to lose power and the opposition is going to turn the country around 180 degrees.

[@selfcrash]

in EU all government democratic you think? I don't think so. Türkiye more democratic then many EU countries even now. When government change will be fix again our politic problems. Also not only today before they not take us EU membership. We are waiting since 1963 and today EU say Türkiye a African country status it's funny

[@aslihanakin1999]

Yeah Hungary's doing great

[@Bringi___]

0:58 actually türkye bordes Aserbaishan with a vers tiny border

[@EUMadeSimple]

You are right! Sorry for missing that and great spot

[@TurkicWarrior]

Is eu a christian league or economic and strategic union?

[@utku_baloglu]

2nd

[@TurkicWarrior]

@@utku_baloglu Name one country that muslim majority country in EU

[@utku_baloglu]

@@TurkicWarrior There is not yet, but most probably Kosovo and Albania will join soon, but I think the reason there is no Muslim majority country in EU is that Muslim majority countries are not as developed as Christian majority countries when it comes to human, lgbt, children, women rights and democracy. As a Muslim man from Turkey, our religion is kinda against some of them.

[@TurkicWarrior]

@@utku_baloglu Türkiye is much more developed and powerful than many other european countries. Lgbtq is not a criteria for membership of EU. Only thing is most europeans are not comfortable because Türkiye has 85 million population and in EU parliement it's gonna be majority for Türkiye and also there is a fear and historical hate towards on Türkiye.Türkiye is a muslim majority country and EU members have relegion racism.That is the whole reason.When it comes to women rights Turkey was one of the first countries in Europe to give women the right to vote and be elected, and ensure equality between men and women.Also Europe wants to be Türkiye as a buffer zone against to Russia and Middle East they don't want to loose this advantage.

[@utku_baloglu]

@@TurkicWarrior you are right about geographical reason and population of Turkey are good reasons to not include Turkey to EU, but even if we have like 1 million population and geographically located somewhere else, criteria are clear. Even though as you said Turkey is one of the first countries to give women some rights, nowadays Erdoğan government has terminated Istanbul contract which protects some of children and women rights and keep rejecting lgbt protests, these are all necessary for civilized countries. if he wins elections next month, it’ll be unlikely for us to join even the Schengen area not eu, these Islamic government will change the education system, and has already started screwing the secularity of country. So it’s not about majority’s religion, it’s about if the government is secular or not. And so it’s attitude.

[@charlesjermyn5001]

Man Tatooine will join the EU before Turkey x)

[@StaticObsessive]

Could Turkey perhaps join the EFTA-EEA instead of the EU, if she meets the EU’s obligations? (In the near future of course, not now.)

[@pollutingpenguin2146]

No

[@alexk3003]

Why didn't you mention Cyprus? It is all in Asia but EU..

[@75davide47]

The fact is that most of the people in cyprus are greek, except for northern cyprus, so for cultural factors and population Cyprus is european but more like a remote territories like Azorre's islands or Reunion

[@alexk3003]

@@75davide47 That's other story than Reunion because it is a separate EU member. And it makes the first argument (geographical) not so sufficient.

[@75davide47]

@@alexk3003 that's a good point, but i think the main reason will be the cultural differences for other european nations, and people in cyprus are basically greeks. Moreover there is no issue with Cyprus borders and border control.

[@froglifes6829]

@@alexk3003 Cyprus is clearly european...

[@alexk3003]

@@froglifes6829 please provide europeaness-meter so we can measure with it.

[@Lilo-of-Rivia]

Oh yeah, das ist eine interessante Frage: kann Marokko der EU überhaupt joinen und wie lief es in der Vergangenheit ab? Genau das selbe mit Israel und anderen Mittelmeer Staaten?

[@EUMadeSimple]

Exactly. I also find that an interesting question. The short answer is probably "yes" as Cyprus is part of the EU, but geographically part of Asia.

[@happybros5917]

How does the Republic of Cyprus join the European Union?

[@MihaiRUdeRO]

Because they're basically European

[@None-self]

​@@MihaiRUdeRO Bcz, they are actually Christian. 😂

[@RD-un2qk]

No we dont want them

[@goese868]

ok racist

[@SultanSuleiman980]

İf you dont Want Türkiye than you Want more refugee like 2015 😂

[@cryptobullmarketessentials8887]

What about south cypros, they are not in europe

[@mariosathens1]

and Malta is African? Both Cyprus and Malta are Mediterranean island-states..

[@Serhat_aydin]

You are "playing" with our emotions😂😂😂😂

[@kralyorum]

As a Turkish citizen who lives in Eu my opinion they will never accept Turkey.

[@zionismisterrorism8716]

No.

[@zedero8]

The only reason they ever were and still are a candidate is because we wanted to keep Turkey in the Western sphere of influence. Just like you already highlighted, there are too many problems. They are too big, too poor and too unstable. We will never want a border with half of the Middle East. Accepting them would also be a massive blow to our efforts of enhancing our common European identity. Because, despite some Turks seeing themselves as Europeans, the majority of us actual Europeans do not consider them as such, for a variety of reasons once again. They’re also occupying the Northern part of the Republic of Cyprus, they’re being hostile towards several EU states, most notably Greece (and of course Cyprus) but also the Netherlands, Sweden and France and they have general problematic foreign relations (too friendly with Russia even at this crucial moment in History, their brutal oppression of the Kurds, the weapon sales to Libya, threatening us with migrants etc). Not to mention their grim record regarding democracy and human rights. The polls show that a majority of Turkish citizens do actually want to see their country join the EU someday. But this, thankfully, will never happen due to the many issues that would arise as well as because a majority of EU citizens would be against their membership.

[@kimwit1307]

I agree. A close assoctiation is the best they can hope for. Norway-style maybe?

[@zedero8]

@@kimwit1307 Yeah, just an association of some sort would be ideal. Although Schengen would never be an option for Turkey and even access to the single market would be tricky. So just the way it is today I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Lando-kx6so]

Turkey can't be too big & poor if Ukraine has candidate status

[@zedero8]

@@Lando-kx6so what? It most definitely can. It’s too big and it’s too poor. And Ukraine is in the midst of a war. Of course it will take time before Ukraine joins as well. But they will join *eventually* that’s for certain. Unlike Turkey.

[@A-KAYA]

@@zedero8 What makes you say war-torn Ukraine will eventually join, and Turkey will never? It will take years to end the war, more years to rebuild and even more to integrate Ukraine with the EU. During all this time, why is it impossible for Turkey to address the issues it has?

[@yorumustasi]

0:45 Die Türkei hat auch eine Grenze zu Rumänien, Ukraine und Russland, denn das Schwarzmeer gehört auch zum Territorium. Keine Landesgrenze, jedoch eine Meeresgrenze.

[@steverogers9097]

As a Turk, I don't want to be in the European Union because Europeans don't have a good past with Turks. In general, Russia (some Slavic peoples ), Turkic peoples, Asian countries. do not like European countries. But if war breaks out, maybe Europe can invite Turkey to the European Union.

[@sinancanyucel2780]

Geographically speaking, for instance, Cyprus is totally in the Asian continent and only 3% or something of Denmark is also in Europe, the argument that Turkey is not in Europe geographically does not make any sense at all. Remember that around 25% of Turkish population live in the small European part of the country and in other European countries and another 20% in closer parts of the country to European continent. Besides, many Turkish people are immigrants from the Balkans, Circassia etc and are related to the Europeans more than they are related to Middle East, Central Asia, Iran etc. I personally believe that Turkey is part of Europe, even the last 20 years have proven it even further. No matter how hard you try to place it in the Middle East it doesn't match there.

[@drazen1972cro]

3% of Denmark is in Europe??? Have you been drinking too much????

[@ajuiceboxxx]

What map are you looking at? 💀

[@sinancanyucel2780]

@@drazen1972cro Baby, have you ever heard of Greenland in your life, which is part of Denmark and geographically part of American continent?

[@sinancanyucel2780]

@@ajuiceboxxx A one showing Greenland ( Denmark) on the top of the map. Raise your head and look at the top of the map, dear. Not so tiring, really

[@yuzeymaokanime583]

From a Turk, it will Never

[@dota2turboman989]

I do not think that Turkey will be admitted to the European Union with its current administration. However, it would be a great mistake to exclude Turkey completely and be declared a bad boy and leave it in the arms of Russia and China. In my opinion, first of all, all the problems with Greece and Cyprus should be resolved with the just approach of the European Union, leaving no room for doubt. Until now, they have always been two-faced towards Turkey. I think the solution is a final population exchange.Let all the Turks in cyprus withdraw from the island and settle on the troublesome islands in the eastern aegean, and the Greeks in the eastern aegean islands settle in northern cyprus. This issue cannot be solved with a federation in Cyprus, because both Turkey and Greece will be in the race to be the dominant power on the island and the problems will never end. or recognize the northern cyprus turkish republic as a state, the eastern mediterranean problem will be solved, only the problems in the aegean remain. As a Turk, I can easily say that the current administration makes Turkey look really bad and that the Turkish people are much more modern than you think.Our administration is so terrible and bad that our borders are out of control, and the refugee problem is deliberately created and fueled. A quality management can solve these problems instantly. because the Turkish army and police force are very strong. In other words, if the administration wanted, not a single refugee would remain in the country, but because our administration is full of Arab lovers and religious bigots, the state of the country today is obvious. Turkish youth are uncomfortable with both their management and their bad neighbors. Europe has been with Turkey from the very beginning and did not see the Turkish people as an ally. Instead of listening to Turkey's problems, they came with the language of threats. Europeans never learn from history. What did the Turks do with the threat? Even if we know that we will starve if greece goes beyond its limits, we will defend our right to the end.

[@cemyildiz7842]

Cyrus problem and the location of Turkey is not that matter. Europe itself already an artificial geographic continent. And it is always possible to find a solution for Cyprus but the UK will block it. The current non-democratic and Europe-skeptic rise in Turkey is also a consequence of the EU's policy against Turkey.

[@wakeno.6047]

Actually, the only real issue is Cyprus case. As long as Turkey have an army in Cyprus, it can't in EU. Sure UK as always plays a bad role on all of this, but also the core of Turkish Political system is a huge issue. There is also a huge propaganda in Turkey when the foreign policy plans don't go as they want , all politicians throw the fault on EU or USA. It's a classical tactic . Unfortunately Turkey needs a hard core reform for it to be a stable peaceful EU country.

[@drazen1972cro]

The only solution is Turkey withdrawing military and repatriating settlers they exported to Cyprus, and then political reunification of Cyprus. Anything else will be reward to Turkey for illegal occupation of Cyprus.

[@willamoctober6714]

Well of course Turkey will never be able to join the EU, not because of geography but drastically different fundamental values that both sides have

[@ugur2444]

I'm Turkish and I don't think EU membership is beneficial for both parties. So I'd much prefer something like privileged partnership. Like eu citizens can enter turkey without visa and vise versa

[@dede-mt3mw]

As a Turk i do not wanna be a part of EU. We can not deal with racist countries in the same union.

[@cazwalt9013]

Why don't you deal with racism in your country rather than accusing others "turk"

[@dede-mt3mw]

@@cazwalt9013 which racism are you talking about? Mostly people hate refugees and it s not about national identity. If you're talkin about racism against Kurds, i am Kurdish and I'm 22 years old and I've never encountered racism in my life.

[@firataytac1748]

@@cazwalt9013 I am a Kurd even my name is Kurdish and I live in Turkey and I have not had any problems. European media is just brainwashing you

[@drazen1972cro]

@@dede-mt3mw yeah I believe you. Totally. LIke when white-as-paste US republican tweeted he was a black gay guy and trump was great for him, but forgot to change the accounts.

[@constantius4654]

Why not grant the Kurdish people a free and fair vote on complete independence from Turkey, you brute.

[@soniahamilton9914]

I have never seen Turkey spelled like that before, Turkiye, interesting. Turkey will never join the EU while it is under the regime it has now.

[@janvandergeert8680]

Even in the best of hypotheses Turkey would not enter before 10 years, I have serious doubts that Erdogan will arrive until that date, but the challenge of the Turks to renew a political class which, in order to enter the EU, is willing to accept secularism, respect for linguistic minorities and overcome the Cypriot question.

[@anatolianmapping03]

Cyprus is in Asia and still part of the EU. Your first point doesn’t make sense.

[@SuperFrosty85]

We need to stop this. The EU needs to become a nationstate first. Stop adding complexity. No hard feelings towards Turkey.

[@EUMadeSimple]

That's why I think it won't happen anytime soon. Reform first .

[@ivan_matvichuk]

​@@EUMadeSimple But what reforms should be made to make the EU a nation-state for Europeans?

[@EUMadeSimple]

@@ivan_matvichuk I think we need lots of reform before accepting anyone new. For instance the VETO vote. Currently one country can block all of the EU if they don't agree, in areas such as foreign policy and fiscal policy. That should be changed in a first step.

[@SuperFrosty85]

@@ivan_matvichuk Not many people know that each state in America has it own constitution. So the EU needs an umbrella constitution like the US. And foreign policy needs to be done by the EU only. Just like in the US. Somebody from the US will never respect the EU if the president can deal with different parts of the country individually. Just like we would not respect the US if we could deal with the Texans separately.

[@SuperFrosty85]

@@EUMadeSimple You make great analysis and I love you for doing this.

[@publicname]

It was actually a mistake to let Poland, Bulgaria etc. in but Turkey. They had more serious problems than what Turkey has but joined eventually.

[@c.adamczewski9462]

Poland and Bulgaria are always belong to Europe, Turkey is Asian Country.

[@edwardelric5019]

​@@c.adamczewski9462 What about the Roman Empire? What about Byzantinum? Didn't these shape some core values of the EU and was Turkey not part of it? What about Hagia Sophia, Ephesus, Afrodisias, Hierapolis, Kibyra, Patara....? There are still many ancient sites and many Turks don't even have much Central Asian DNA. Besides Cyprus is 100% in Asia yet it's being considered a European country.

[@aliberkyilmazz]

@@c.adamczewski9462 We are more developed than these two kid

[@c.adamczewski9462]

@@aliberkyilmazz are you kidding me:)

[@aliberkyilmazz]

@@c.adamczewski9462 yes, 20th strongest economy, 11th strongest Army, twice as much territory as their combined, potentially better young population, an economic bridge between the EU and China, and we are a central power. We also own the Black Sea. Countries like Bulgaria just make other countries pay for them, even though we are not in EU we are making more trades than this kids

[@zaferyurt7703]

Yes, there are a lot of problems … When we entered the European Union negotiations in 2004, I was saying that we will enter the European Union, I hoped until 2019, now we will never enter ….

[@nathanielpettersen2560]

Turkey is an eurasian country. They have european culture and asian culture. Its pretty simple. Eurasian countries can join EU too. (Prime example of cyprus)

[@elenilepouri7253]

With a small detail: Turkey occupies a EU member land

[@gununmal6545]

​@@elenilepouri7253maybe try not to kill and mistreat turks in the island so we dont have to intervene eh?

[@AlexxAmadeo]

Either stick to the proper pronunciation of the now official spelling or keep calling it Turkey because this constant back-and-forth really grates on the ears.

[@georgedevries3992]

Both names make my ears bleed. Such ugly and foul names.

[@EUMadeSimple]

Yeh I could have done better there. I noticed it after I exported the video

[@xenofonkarykis8417]

​@@EUMadeSimple Presumably it is an English speaking site. Did you know that England in Turkish is called İngiltere? Great Britain is Büyük Britanya. The United Kingdom is called Birleşik Krallık. How dare they not use the proper English names in Turkish. Oh wait, countries have different names in different languages and we re speaking English now not Turkish so Turkey it is 😂

[@alim6316]

NO

[@karLcx]

almost every issue that comes to light seems to seperate turkey further and rule out any possibility. even generational change would likely have little improvement, as there is no indication that the coming generations would be any more inclined to fit any more closely into the european mould. it doesn't make sense to expend time and resources on even discussing it.

[@janvandergeert8680]

it is not a question of arguing, it is simply necessary to say to the Turks: Do you want to join the European Union? Well, you will be able to when the following issues are resolved: -Achievement of full democracies and the rule of law. -Secularism. - Respect for minorities. -Solution of the Cypriot question.

[@karLcx]

@@janvandergeert8680 not much point in going that far if multiple countries are still going to veto just because turkey, and 80 odd million people.

[@janvandergeert8680]

@@karLcx Turkey's policy skill will be to convince European nations that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. Then if Turkey joins the EU it will do so in no earlier than 20 years, when other nations will be inside the EU, 80 million (which probably will be less due to demographic decline) will not be a problem if the EU makes the right reforms internal, certainly Turkish society must demonstrate its willingness to integrate with the European one, it's not that they would be inserted as they are now.

[@mehmetakdere2374]

My idea as a turk is that the current government does not want to enter the European Union, if the government changes maybe the government that makes an effort to enter the European Union will not take us anyway

[@yektakurt1080]

İ think n.korea have more chanse than turkiye for membership eu

[@turkcukayi]

I don't care about joining the EU, but Turkey, or rather Anatolia, is one of the most important regions in shaping European culture. For example, the Hittites, the first Indo-European state in history, were established in Anatolia. Or the Etruscans, one of the nations that formed the core of the Roman Empire, were of Anatolian origin. In addition, East Rome, an advanced civilization from European countries for centuries, was centered in Asia Minor. Or most of the churches that Christianity considers holy are in Turkey. I can list more, but these are the first ones that come to mind.

[@emanueldelacruz1101]

Why don't consider objects "holy". That's a myth

[@KotyoraGeo]

Cyprus is in Asia but in the European Union?

[@ruzicas.5819]

I think the biggest problem for turkish accesion to EU, bigger than geography, economy, religion and democracy is its population. Turkiye has too many inhabitants for other small EU countries, it is a big country and regional force and brings too many influence and would change the balance of power inside the EU. Turkiye is bigger and has more inhabitants than now the biggest country Germany. For Ukraine it will not be easy too, it will be needed many years of negotiations even with all this support now, too big country and almost 40 million inhabitants. Its much easier to accept a smaller country. I believe Montenegro has great chances with new president to speed up its negotiations. Montenegro has 600 000 inhabitants. Nobody is scared of them, but many are scared of Ukraine and Turkiye. Only 5 EU countries have more than 35 million of inhabitants, 22 are smaller countries.

[@sudesue]

As a Turk, I can say that Turkey is suffering. I advise Europe never to do this to themselves. We have millions of Syrians and Afghans. I am a nursing student and will leave the country when I graduate.

[@dronur6194]

S.git lazım değilsin. Yerini dolduracak Hemşire adayları var.

[@fatihersayn7877]

Erkenden s*ktir git lütfen. Avrupa kıçı yalayıcı hainleri ülkemizde istemiyoruz. Yoksa böyle giderse biz sizi temizleyeceğiz.

[@abelnicolae]

Due to it's troublesome history and religion, Turkey had to be very careful and diplomatic when approaching the EU. They were on the right path... until they made the big mistake of ellecting Erdogan as president. He broke all the reforms Ataturk put in place in less than 15 years. He brought back extreme nationalism, religion interfering with government, simpathy towards Putin and Orban, discrimination against minorities, hard speech against NATO and Europe and, ofcourse,...rigged elections and dictatorship. I think the turks were closer to Europe back in Ottoman times than now :))) Only a miracle would get them into the EU.

[@historianstime]

As a Turk, I would like to say that the European Union is right, albeit a little, because Turkey is a country with a population of 85 million that will govern the European parliament, and at the moment, Turkey is an underdeveloped country, I hope we can develop properly. And we become members

[@alireact1827]

Shut up fol. Are you not ashamed. Turkey Will never be part of Europe. When will you understand this. They are using your military to be part of Nato but rejecting you to be part of they member. They except Greece despite being poor nation and reject you.

[@silveryuno]

I would be all in for Türkiye to be a part of the EU, but I just don't see it happening... Türkiye (or at least it's current govement) is unwilling to follow EU's rules and regulations, just wanting to keep doing it's own thing. Türkiye (or at least it's current govement) is unwilling to reconcile with it's neighboors about bad stuff that happend in the Ottoman past. Türkiye (or at least it's current govement) is moving the country into becoming a more autoritarian regime. etc... ect... ect... A lot of work would need to be done for Türkiye to be able to become a part of the EU and I don't see any politician in Türkiye willing to start the years long process. Türkiye now is basically knocking at the door and saying... Türkiye: Let me in. EU: If we are gonna let you into our house we have to setup rules and boundaries. Türkiye: tl:dr, let me in.

[@eldahalas7015]

EU needs Turkey as big partner in the Region, a gate holder. Turkey can have strategic partnership with EU like Switzerland does or Nordic does. Much better trade deals, visa free movement, some concessions. Actually it is not that hard to hold Turkey as Strategic partner in the Region. If EU close the doors we already see what happens. I think that is not plausable.

[@aarengraves9962]

The EU doesnt "need" anything from Turkey. Stop creating narratives that make Turkey important for Europe. The Europeans have decided that Turkey is not worth their money and time, since its an unpredictable nation that black-mails and threatens European states.

[@user-si8cf2we5w]

you are missing the point.EU DOESNT NEED TURKEY.secondly EU IS AN ECONOMIC ALLIANCE and not a military like NATO. Much better trade deals, visa free movement, some concessions will only beefir turkey while harm the EU so why on earth EU should agree on that?and last have you though is EU close the doors to turky what will happen to turkey?imagine all the turks that live in europe come back to turkey!imagine if EU block all the trade with turkey!in case you dont know 80% of turkeys imports are from Europe.try to see the big picture before you speak

[@PsychicDeniz]

As a Turkish person living abroad i see Türkiye’s future anchored to the EU probably as a privileged partner like Norway. More freedom for all

[@maksathojiyew6552]

If Turkey wants to be accepted EU, it has to accept unprecedented requirements of all EU countries.

[@saudade6525]

Evet insanlarımızı öldüren PKK'lı geri ceza evlerinden çıkaralım Avrupa birliği bizi kabul etsin diye 😂😂😂 çok komiksin

[@steverogers9097]

It would be better if Turan union was established instead.

[@hamlet557]

Yeah, start with Turkmenistan 😁

[@tidalshooter9778]

Hopefully not

[@goese868]

why?

[@sirxander5420]

Not with the current state of politics in Turkey

[@georgedevries3992]

Not with the current Turkey. Period.