Will We Colonize Our Solar System? with Dr. Robert Zubrin

[@EventHorizonShow]

When will we go back to the Moon? Can we live on Mars? What do you think.

[@omegaclass1696]

As long as we do not scrap the metric system we cannot go to the stars. the pound, foot units got us to the moon. more rockets exploded using SI units. Warp drive development will require english units due to the nature of time and space.

[@planetoftheatheists6858]

Hey, people live in Detroit and Shanghai...we can figure out a way to live anywhere.

[@NewFossil]

IF we can figure out what to do about the effects of low gravity on the human body. Otherwise we'll just be visiting.

[@MrKago1]

The moon? Sooner than you'd think I suspect. Mars, not any time soon. To live permanently? Not at all. Just isn't worth the cost, even for a station like the one in Antarctica. At least not yet.

[@Tdtsnowflake]

Event Horizon yes we can live on Mars and we already on the moon!

[@Obvioustroller]

Born too late to explore the world. Born to early to explore the universe. Born just in time to explore the Solar System :) And that's not too shabby imo.

[@carlosandleon]

just in time to see dank memes

[@jezzabr]

@Carlos Leon 'tis a worthy substitute

[@Catholic_convert81]

Only thing youre exploring is your moms basement ........ XD

[@mycinematics8948]

@@carlosandleon Go get a shovel because I am guessing the line "she's dead" is inbound. At which point you say you don't actually dig up dinosaurs...

[@lain11644]

That's why I'm staying at home exploring the internet :)

[@deekdouglas3055]

Wow Robert Zubrin. His work on Mars Direct is legendary. Thank you Event Horizon, This man will be remembered forever as a pioneer :D awesome video. Edit: he's one of my favorite scientists with an amazing personal story, clear genius and one of the toughest chins in science. He's an inspiration to never give up

[@vahangood5999]

Dr. Zubrin is one of the most inspiring visionaries of our time. A good man advocating for a positive, pro-human future. Please have him back OFTEN, he's always a delight to listen to.

[@stuartfox8499]

Have you seen the video of Zubrin testifying before the US Senate where there is a minute of No Name with a depriciating, condisending smirk on his evil face? I'm glad he is gone to hell where he belongs.

[@jondoc7525]

Cause we should have been in amrs decades ago. He was pissed and right . Nwo doesn’t want it to happen quickly they will lose control of us and the market

[@jeffvader811]

I love this stuff. Not a day goes by where I'm not daydreaming about O'Neil cylinders.

[@adumbedgyname7158]

....where people are born and raised.....and die. Nine months ago, the cluster of colonies furthest from the Earth, called Side 3, proclaimed itself the Principality of Zeon and launched a war of independence against the Earth Federation....

[@marshmallowmonster7731]

@Brooke B Ideal temperature, humidity, only selected species of plants and animals, clean air, zero g spots where you can fool around, plus you could watch this whenever you please: motionarray.imgix.net/preview-6649350EAdgDTA6_0000.jpg

[@devendietrich3445]

I want to start a cult on an oneil cylinder that slowly devolves into a semi deserted, cannabalistic horror colony.

[@DanaVastman]

The folks who changed the world... SpaceX... not mentioned... did Besos buy you? Sad...

[@jeffvader811]

@@DanaVastman What? I didn't mention Bezos.

[@plqskov1504]

Dont know about the executive class but im a truck driver and ill be more than happy to come up with 20k for a 30 min space flight. That will be the most expensive coffe ever but some things are priceless!

[@kjetilhvalstrand1009]

Yes tempting even have suffer for it a bit.

[@nias2631]

I'd love to see an astronomical observatory on the far side of the moon constructed.

[@Teukka72]

That, and a radio and X-ray observatory.

[@jeffvader811]

All the observatories.

[@larrybeckham6652]

Again, in a gravity well? Better put in, say, L5 of Jupiter orbit,

[@jeffvader811]

@@larrybeckham6652 The point of a radio observatory on the far side of the moon is to block out radio noise from Earth. Transporting the same mass of material to Jupiter would be much more energy intensive, it makes sense to do it on the moon.

[@larrybeckham6652]

@@jeffvader811 the mass is all ready there. Heard of the Trojan asteriods? I didnt know we talking radio. Jupiter space is hell on radio. Still, L5 or L4 is long way from Jupiter. But then you could use gravity assist to throw out of the plane of the elliptic. All we need send from the inners is a couple of self replicating assembly bots with the right software.

[@Sal_1355]

Between the life extension tech, and the boom in the space industry...I feel confident in seeing other worlds in my lifetime. Its glorious to be born in this time.

[@markm4603]

Get real dude... a cloud cancels a launch these days..

[@Sal_1355]

@@markm4603 Guess you haven't been paying attention to all the launches going on. Its okay, me and the rest of the internet will forgive you for living under a rock. Hope to see ya up there getting some much needed sun brother.

[@markm4603]

@@Sal_1355 eerr yesterday space x cancelled its launch due to clouds.

[@Sal_1355]

@@markm4603 Screw the cloud cover. Of course they cancelled for safety. But how many launches did they do in 2018? How about how many in the world? Compare that to ten years ago. Get real dude, as you suggested. Worlds risen to the challenge. Space age is finally here. 'These days' are way better than they were a decade ago. But hey, we can be pessimistic and have no hope right? If thats how you wanna view one small cancellation, so be it. Personally I will say good on them for being cautious, keep up the good work, and im looking forward to a brighter tomorrow.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

mmm what do u mean by that... r u being generally positive or r u being serious.... if we have to be realistic in the next 100 years something like 100 people will get to Mars and nowhere else and most will return because almost no one will want to live in a can in absolutely terrible environment for more than a few years

[@locust334]

I love when you have dr Zubrin on. He is so entertaining. I love his ideas and vision for the future.

[@locust334]

So true

[@bdetert82]

Dr Zubrin is a good hype man. That speech at the end =)

[@mikeharrington5593]

Zubrin could sell snowballs to the Eskimos.

[@Sixstringman]

Its almost as though space flight is cheaper when not managed by a gigantic bureaucracy.

[@bencoad8492]

or more blood sucking companies, trying to suck as much sweet taxpayer money$$$ as they can :P

[@woobilicious.]

The only thing worse than a monopoly, is a government monopoly.

[@sakketin]

Almost all of the significant progress in space-exploration has been made by government bureaucracies. Saying that private money clearly has the edge is pure ideology, not at all based on reality.

[@VerisimilitudeDude]

@@sakketin Are you stupid or just hit on the head recently? Yes, all the significant achievements in space exploration up until recently has been through government programs, BUT private industry has been PROVEN to be much more economical in terms of cost, ESPECIALLY since SpaceX has perfected the reusability part of it. We WILL see more significant things done through private industry than government PERIOD. That's a fact. NASA isn't putting man on Mars by 2024, SpaceX is. Mkay?

[@Vienna3080]

Of course paying your workers less then average for the same field will obviously make things cheaper Cheaper doesn't mean good

[@christopherbaby3842]

I don't know if this music is epic enough.

[@alteredbeast7145]

Stellardrone: Red Giant. Quite possibly the greatest space song ever. Listen to it on good quality headphones, close your eyes, see you on the other side

[@duplin27852]

Zubrin is great, I've been listening to him for years. If he...or someone like him...had been NASA Administrator for the previous several years we would have Mars Colony already...and JWST would have been functioning for at least 5 or 6 years.

[@jeffvader811]

He's a little mad sometimes, but I think he's brilliant.

[@duplin27852]

@@jeffvader811 Just think of him as 'driven.' ;-)

[@antifusion]

You're not factoring in the giant roadblock in your plan called congress and politics in general.

[@duplin27852]

@@antifusion The money for JWST has never been the problem. The cost is now 20 times the original price tag...and it's 14 YEARS behind schedule. That's not politics...that's NASA ineptitude. They refuse to hold their favorite contractors accountable....period.

[@leandrox1]

@@rayhicks8313 well...you already had 14 astronaut killed in your shuttle program...just for some states has free money from NASA contrats ..and some politicians reelected... With Zubrin...this death have meaning some space achievement...for sure... Btw...soviet Buran had scape emergency...

[@IudiciumInfernalum]

Boy do i hope Dr. Zubrin's vision for the future will come true.

[@swirvinbirds1971]

Even if not full blown colonies I am positive we will have research stations at the minimum on the different planets or their moons. Much like Antartica.

[@ithinkthonkthunk5333]

Yep & much like Devon Island. 🤫

[@someguy3766]

Thing is, you will _have_ to have colonies of a sort in order to support those research stations. Space is like Antarctica, in that it is inhospitable to humans. But it is also different in that besides low Earth orbit it is very far away, and so it takes vastly more time and resources to get stuff out there. With Antarctica we can ship regular supplies, scientists can stay for a few months then fly home... it's easy to support those stations from the other side of the world. In space, we can't do that. Everything they need on Mars, Titan, the Asteroid Belt etc will have to be produced there. That means you can't just have scientists, you need agriculture experts, engineers, doctors, manufacturing experts etc. And they can't just stay a few months then fly home, they will be out there for years, decades or their whole lives. So they'll also want to start families, so you need education, entertainment, financial services etc. And at that point it's not a research station anymore, it's a colony. I think research and mining stations will be the fundamental basis for human exploration of the solar system but a colonial population will have to join them in order to make working in space possible.

[@cabezzadevaca4157]

It is always nice to hear Robert Zubrin speak. Too bad the interview was spoiled with music. You either listen to music or listen to the guest, not both.

[@beemrmem3]

I like both

[@remo5274]

When man picked up a stick to use as a tool/weapon, that is science that advanced his condition in the world. Turned that stick into a bow and improved his life even more And so on until he split the atom and the beginning of the control of matter and energy It's science that's advanced the life of man and it will always be so That's why space exploration is so critical It pushes the limits of mans knowledge

[@MCsCreations]

Thanks for the chat, JMG! Really fantastic subject! 😃

[@nate_d376]

I read Dr. Zubrin's book 'the case for mars' back in the 90's, still on my bookshelf, to this day! Loved it then, I think it's still a great book, and I'm gonna add his new book to my collection! Dr. Zubrin was, and still is, one of my heros of science! It's great to hear him again!

[@deekdouglas3055]

He's one of mine too, absolute legend.

[@khaccanhle1930]

I love Zubrin. I've been watching him for over 12 years. I love his passionate, get-s--t-done attitude. I'm so glad he's got Musk's ear. I can't think of a better advocate for Mars.

[@BlackWolf6420]

Repeating myself but the format of this show is amazing! I get to find out so much from the guests invited to the programme. Keep it coming please! 🙌💓 I love space! 💪🚀🛰

[@matthewakian2]

Excellent interview. I just discovered this channel.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Welcome!

[@jthono]

This was one of me favorites. Thanks for the video

[@happynomadic1581]

Commercial asteroid mining for rare earth metals will become nessacary for solar production as well as batteries and smartphones tech

[@reallyryan_]

It was so cool listening to this! I really hope to see humans on Mars by the end of my lifetime I'm 25 I'm sure we can do it.

[@eric3434]

You'll see it in your lifetime for sure. 👍 If SpaceX has their way, soon too.

[@reallyryan_]

@@eric3434 I'd imagine it would be like watching the moon landing for the first time on TV like my mum did when she was a kid but with mars instead.

[@eric3434]

@@reallyryan_ I wish i was alive to see Apollo. Had to of been a grand experience. If this happens thru SpaceX instead of NASA, I imagine we will see the settling, exploration and infrastructure implementation 24x7 live feeds from the red planet. I am excited and looking forward to witnessing man take on the challenges of settling another planet. But i am not so sure our society is capable of seeing the deaths that will occur in our early pilgrimage without obsessively fussing over it. It is what it is, and our society is just going to have to deal with it.

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

I dont think you will. I dont think your kids will either. Deep space travel is too dangerous for the human body. Long term exposure to space radiation can cause brain damage and all sorts of health problems.. probably even death. It's not going to happen for hundreds of years.

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

Maybe that's the exact reason we dont see aliens flying about the galaxy.. because it's just not possible, or at the very least, just not worth the risk, effort, and cost.

[@oiocha5706]

I cant' get enough of Robert Zubrin!!!!!

[@gannicusii4163]

Man how much he hit the nail on the head with his predictions is insane.

[@thetrumanshow4791]

Best intro EVER! Especially 1:07-1:28 Especially the music. The music really made it. Totally gave me cold chills all over. Oh, and the content wasn't bad either. ;)

[@Liberty4Ever]

I grew up during Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Viking. It was soul crushing to see government's monopoly on space development and exploration ossify into the bureaucratic inaction of NaySay. Contrast this with the early entrepreneurial days of aviation. If we had private enterprise pushing the envelope through competition in aerospace as we had in aviation, we'd have well established colonies on the moon and Mars, orbital hotels and even private spacecraft in the same manner that we now have private planes. Government has caused a 50 year dark ages for aerospace, but I'm delighted to see entrepreneurial advances, even though they were delayed 50 years. Speaking of .gov failure... technology will soon allow us to make a 45 minute parabolic flight from New York to Beijing, but the TSA will still require us to wait two hours in the airport before being irradiated and sexually molested before we'll be allowed the privilege of air travel. Will advances in aerospace ever allow me to escape from government? Will I be able to runaway from the global tax plantation and live free? I think I read too much Heinlein as a teenager.

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

Rosscosmos seems doing fine with the resources they have. And that's part of the government. Same with the Chinese. At the level we are it doesn't matter if it is state owned or private owned Will is what counts. The money spent saving banks would have put us on Mars several times.

[@mikeflannery7219]

Ya'll have an awesome channel. I think this is my favorite science channel

[@zeromancer-x]

Intrastellar travel and colonization is a little mundane for the futurist in me, bit you've got Bob Zubrin... I've got to listen

[@JonMears]

just one minute in and its magic. Great production, JMG!

[@jamesriddle7116]

Rock on anyone who wants to go to space, let's do it!!!

[@briansandford3596]

Nothing but respect for Dr. Zubrin. I've been a fan for a long time.

[@Starbat88]

Absolutely inspiring. I hope I live to see this amazing future!

[@BizJetTV]

Robert Zubrin is ace!

[@ArcherWarhound]

I think Isaac Arthur is correct that we're going to see a little of everything, colonies on planetary surfaces, O'Neil cylinders and other habitat types orbiting all the planets, and in orbit around Sol himself.

[@willyreeves319]

only serious quibble I have is where Dr. Zubrin compares a mission to Mars (of a few to a few dozen people) to building an O'Neil cylinder (which would permanently house a few hundred thousand) but then hand waves terraforming Mars as a logical next step. those 3 projects are each vastly different in scope. maybe 10 years and 100 tons for Mars mission, 100 years and 3,000,000,000 tons for an O'Neil cylinder, 100,000 years and 1,400,000,000,000,000 tons (mostly atmosphere) to terraform Mars. I may be off by a factor of 2 or 3 on some of these but you can see the huge leaps from one to the next. we will have thousands of O'Neil type habitats long before we have even a serious start to terraforming Mars. I do think we have the tech to do all 3 already just need the will and time

[@redcommando1]

I don't mind admitting, that little speech from the Doc at the end got my space needle hard.

[@larrybeckham6652]

The blood drained from the brain on that one. Gravity wells...well, you know.

[@arthurballs2754]

42:06 - More on this flying cars tech please John.

[@stoneeh]

Just build more roads, lmao. And in densly populated areas, underground is the way to go - which Elon is already working on.

[@alteredbeast7145]

Good episode he just seems a littlle wild eyed for me. Thats to his credit though, and a testament to human psychology. Hes right about the lagrange points, we can absolutely detox mars with existing tech

[@thatdutchguy2882]

Not to mention that the EU, Russia and China are going to build a base on the moon in 2024. India has truly launched its space ambition aswell. Things are moving.

[@deadrose007]

I doubt that Russia will have a base on the moon by 2024. They have big plans but no money.

[@larrybeckham6652]

@@deadrose007 What? They have the fullest of the U.S. economy at the disposal!

[@deadrose007]

@@larrybeckham6652 I don't know if you are being obtuse or you are just stupid.

[@larrybeckham6652]

@@deadrose007 well, i admit it. i am obese.

[@larrybeckham6652]

@@deadrose007 seriously, search for 0T_-SWTLtbU. Putin is the Master of his Puppet in the White House. Congress tolerates treason.

[@alanyoung1134]

Just fantastic. One of the best KZbin channels in existence

[@fisterB]

A great inspired man, Zubrin, his vision for 2069 is about to gain momentum. Raptor engine just flew for the first time 2 days ago, before 2020 spacex will build a raptor every 12 hours. They plan to build thousands of Starships, many variations. Like the first years of aviation, I think they will have cargo transport before passengers earth-to--earth, the proof of safety we need. This will disrupt container ship transport and then follows the passenger jet market.

[@merinsan]

I've read The Case for Mars. I now have to get The Case for Space!

[@1pcfred]

The case for Earth is the strongest case of them all.

[@KevinDavis338]

Make America Great in Space Again!

[@1pcfred]

We are already the greatest thing there ever was in space. No country on Earth has ever successfully landed a mission on the surface of Mars other than the USA.

[@KevinDavis338]

@@1pcfred we didn't land humans on Mars. So technically we didn't go to Mars. Only probes.

[@1pcfred]

@@KevinDavis338 the USA is the only country that has ever managed to successfully get probes to the surface of Mars too. Unless you want to count one Soviet mission that supposedly lasted for a fraction of a second before it failed. Personally I call that a failure. Getting anything on the surface of Mars intact is not an easy task. You only think it is because the USA has done it so many times.

[@DanialDawson]

Zubrin is an absolute inspiration! "The year 2069 As I write these lines the 50th anniversary of the Apollo Lunar landing is coming into view. Over the past 50 years our robotic planetary program has performed epic deeds of exploration, while our human space flight effort has stagnated. But now with the entrepreneurial space launch revolution we are poised to break out into the solar system. If we seize this opportunity, where might we be 50 years hence? Here is my vision of where we could be. We will have fusion power and open sea mariculture and will no longer be living in fear of climate change, resource exhaustion or each other. We will be a cosmopolitan civilization able to travel the globe freely through sub-orbital space in less than an hour so that nearly everyone will have friends in every land. We will have research laboratories, industries and hotels in orbit. We will have scientific bases, astronomical interferometers and helium-3 mines on the moon. There will be operational lunar skyhooks, enabling transport all over the moon and the cheap lifting of propellent to lunar orbit to support explorations to the outer solar system. We’ll have city-states on Mars, vibrant optimistic centres of invention, sporting lively and novel cultures with many casting-off the chains of tradition to strike out new paths that show the way to a better future. We will have mining settlement outfits on their way to the main asteroid belt and exploration expeditions to the outer solar system to test the means by which we might access its enormous energy resources to be used for the human future. We’ll have grand observatories floating in free space that will make magnificent discoveries in physics and cosmology, mapping of the planets and millions of stars, and finding other worlds filled with life and intelligence. We will be learning the truth about the nature of the universe and life’s role in it, preparing our first interstellar spaceships to journey forth and find our place among the stars. That is where we could be in 50 years from now. "

[@Dysputant]

Get's out of gravity well... just to land inside gravity well ? Just build O'Neill Cylinders already ;)

[@larrybeckham6652]

YES! I am not alone!!!

[@planetoftheatheists6858]

The more i learn about space, the sadder i am because it's all too clear our species will probably never travel anywhere, the obstacles seem insurmountable. Thanks John, you destroyed my dreams! and i cannot even watch my favorite sci-fi films without rolling my eyes. We need to stick to saving our atmosphere while building massive, space-based telescopes to study other planets and the cosmos.

[@MatthewLong8]

Did you know that one of the Wright brothers thought that commercial heavier than air travel would NEVER happen? Don't you worry, space itself can travel faster than the speed of light, we are already working on it info.publicintelligence.net/DIA-WarpDrives.pdf

[@megret1808]

NASA has been called a massive make work program for engineers

[@davidhenneberg2661]

It's the Paul Simon of space

[@fresh-ej6st]

😁 Paul Simon 🤣🤣

[@MatthewLong8]

you are the second person to make such a comparison, I don't understand, can you elaborate?

[@fresh-ej6st]

@@MatthewLong8 he looks like Paul Simon!!!!!

[@tasosparisinos6893]

I have a couple of questions. I saw the whole video, but maybe I missed some... Even with today's re-usability, is a more vibrant space program going to affect the Kessler Syndrome related pollution? Also is there a prediction if we will be able to really go to mars and do science to begin with, before massive study on the human body and how to make the body and psyche of people ready for that? Will we probably see first a wave of androids? Will we need androids on Mars to help pave the way for humans?

[@krazium1776]

John is the equivalent to the storyteller from shoddycast

[@NewFrontierAerospace]

Great show - but at about 27:00 you say "...we have the prospect of literally going into space and traveling intercontinentally anywhere on Earth within an hour. This is new, this is something I don't think that anyone had thought of..." In fact, this has been a staple of science fiction and serious aerospace vehicle design since the mid -20th century. Please read Rocketship Galileo (1947) or this mid-1960s quote from Douglas Aircraft spaceship designer Phil Bono (who inspired the McDonnell Douglas Delta Clipper - which, in turn, inspired Musk and Bezos): "the SST would be just a small step in the direction of reducing transit time, whereas rocket-propelled vehicles would provide the ultimate in sub-orbital speed for transportation on the Earth's surface. The space age has equipped us with the technology for transporting emergency equipment to any disaster area on Earth in the time it would take for a bus ride across town, despite the conditions of aircraft runways upon arrival. In addition, diplomats, heads of state, chiefs of staff, as well as business executives, could be transported in person to consult, confer, inspect, decide and to lead in a manner currently impossible from distant shores, even with the aid from television." Here is a picture of Bono's Pegasus passenger rocket: thehighfrontier.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/27760707516_a5d7a8b4f5_b.jpg?w=800 Yes, Elon Musk is a great innovator and he is turning humanity's dreams into reality - but suborbital passenger rockets are not a "new" idea.

[@Deadlyish]

Just wanted to correct the comments about Rocket Lab: it's a company operating out of NZ but is actually owned by a California based private business: www.rocketlabusa.com/frequently-asked-questions/ NZ also does have a small space agency as part of our Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment: www.mbie.govt.nz/science-and-technology/space/ Also, see if you can get the Rocket Lab CEO on the show at some point, he's an interesting guy

[@AZOffRoadster]

Elon's timelines are aspirationial. It motivates his employees.

[@idontwantachannelimjustcom7745]

I'm not sure about city states in space. If a company owns a habitat, and you work at that habitat, then quit. Does the company have to pay to bring you home? Do they hold your first few paychecks and use that to send you home? If the habitat has a mutiny can the company remote purge the air and claim self defense in a time of war? What if the company never lets any habitat get big enough to be self sufficient?

[@jamesriddle7116]

This is very exciting!!!!

[@zakiducky]

Anyone know the name of the song at the end? It sounded really good

[@Daveyboy4]

I could fly to Vegas from the UK Friday night come home Sunday night having spent only a couple hours of flight time so no jet lag!! I hope I'm alive long enough to do that!!

[@lsb2623]

CORPORATE POLITICIANS ARE GOING TO END HUMANITY.

[@kataseiko]

I hope that we'll have (manned) space stations around Venus and Mars before someone sets down on Mars..

[@sortadecentgaming2348]

Watching this in March 2021 and pained by the fact that SLS STILL, STILL, hasn't flown. Hell, Starship has lifted off five times!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

What microphone are you using?

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

AKG Perception 200 condenser run through a dbx 286s processor and then on to a focusrite scarlet 2i2 interface.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@@JohnMichaelGodier sounds great. With you and Isaac Arthur's sound set up, they're so soothing that I listen once for information, and once for soothing voices to sleep too

[@davidnewman7014]

10 yrs or so ago people been laughing from elon musk and now he is on the every path our kids will take as granted. need more people like him

[@ryanmillis3648]

Michael I love your media and can't wait to read your books

[@besotoxicomusic]

Finally, something relative.

[@MatthewLong8]

and relevant!

[@steverafferty4114]

Absolutely brilliant thank u

[@MrBothandNether]

Not if all their resources can be stripped from them first

[@tokyopp]

Dr Zubrin has such a crush with mars jajaja such a lovely couple, but i love his work.

[@nealsterling8151]

It's a welcome change to see someone being truely hopeful about the future these days, without having some creepy vision about what everyone should/has to do in said future. (like creating some cultural pressure to make ppl. getting borgified or other scary stuff.)

[@matthewdavies2057]

We should go when we have good reasons to go. Right now we do not. Ego is not a good reason. Been there, did that.

[@MatthewLong8]

the dinosaurs went extinct due to lack of an advanced space program. should we do the same?

[@koolkleekai9387]

Gotta love Bob , he tells it how it is !

[@AlohaMilton]

Great episode, and you sold a book!

[@kpsting]

I don't think you can plan this current bout of moon missions and "going there to stay" while factoring in an ISRU propellant production on the moon with resources, which presence there is not sufficiently quantified at all

[@drunkredninja]

I find Zubrin to be too much of a salesman but that's just what I get from all the interviews with him. He should back what he preaches and be one of the first to go out there though.

[@etartbybwitten9394]

Did you know the message in the Pyramids and Megaliths would have Earths rotation around the Sun extended to over 40 million miles further than Mars? That will take place in about 30,000 years time. Shortly, though as the story left us goes, the Earth reaches the plane of the Sun and Atlantis needs to be installed to stop the global Tsunami issue. The videos related to such things are on my channel. They also left our history on the river rocks.

[@reallyryan_]

I think space X is heading in the right direction they are actually doing something about it with their reusable rockets I think this is a huge step forward for development.

[@KevinDavis338]

I would love to go to Alpha Centauri!

[@rowleyj31]

Cept it would never happen. Too far away.

[@Padoot-xs7rh]

When will we ask the right question? When will real private (not government subsidized) companies compete for space travel and exploration. Unless competition is real, costs will stay high.

[@princekeiii]

I’ve been thinking the same shit. Them trees been hitting me 😉 but honestly I do have this strange feeling that something good is about to happen soon.

[@Raz.C]

You can't trick us! That's a young (ish) Paul Simon, not this _imaginary_ "Dr" Zubrin... ps: Yes, that is a joke. I do know how to do a google search, after all.

[@mortimerhasbeengud2834]

I downloaded the Zubrin book about two weeks ago, and what I have long thought is the Go to Mars thing cannot happen (Yes I know Mars was Zubrin's prev book). We need a continuous stream of goodies, industrial materials from the Moon and Psyche-16 to have an economic base for exploiting and then living permanently in space. Otherwise, like the Montgolfier Brothers, going to the moon and then Mars is just a balloon ascent.We did the moon because of the Russians. Once the Ruskies quite, why bother? Money, now that makes a diff!! No cash, no splash!

[@Jayc5001]

Cool!

[@TheOvadex]

6:55 Rocket Lab is an american company that has a launch facility in New Zealand.

[@dennisnicholson952]

In the movie Deep Impact, the comet, Wolf-Beiderman, is gone after by a spaceship, Messiah, that is propelled by a fusion engine. How long might it be before we have anything like that?

[@istvansipos9940]

if we see a comet bringing 100% global doom? that baby will fly yesterday! really, cost won't be an issue. I think, we would build about 10 of those ships as redundancy. and risk won't be an issue, either. what do you want, earthlings? a chance for survival + a small risk that a nuclear reactor might fall into your backyard. OR that we all die? it's all about motivation. thus I kinda hope that the James Webb will have a minor issue, a broken screw or something. then the "impossible" repair mission becomes possible, because that gizmo is faaar too expensive to be wasted. the U.S. would spend another heap of money on it, to save the truckloads of money already spent on it.

[@dennisnicholson952]

@@istvansipos9940 Thank you, sir. Your answer to my question was most interesting yet it has been said that such would only be possible if we had fair warning. Presently, as I understand, we can only monitor so much sky and would our governments be capable of such a response if we were given time?

[@istvansipos9940]

@@dennisnicholson952 yeah, time is always a huge factor. if we see it too late, that's it. but if you don't wanna die, that can speed up everything :- ) And we observe an ever increasing portion of our sky (sooonish, the entire sky) so we will see anything that moves, having an ever increasing time cushion. above a certain asteroid size, ovbiously, but that's enough to detect the extinction level bad boys. tragic as it would be, some cities can be destroyed. that would not endanger human civilization at all. let alone our 7+ Billion population. -20 Million (a huge city) would not even be a dent in our numbers. and it would require an extreme amount of bad luck, as only a tiny fraction of Earth's surface is covered with cities. And about governments... remember that urge when you feel that you don't wanna die? that could justify serious political moves. F.e the establishment of very small, almost or fully dictatorial regimes so that decisions can be made fast, f.e without congressional debates. there was a Manhattan project not too long ago and it was insane, although they wanted nothing more than a war winning superweapon. compared to saving our species, that was a modest goal, indeed. they did it without any special political moves and with ww2 technology. with our current technology and with special, speedy governments, we would be so powerful that the term "impossible" would need a new definition. In a way, it would be some HIGH stakes awesomeness for mankind

[@1pcfred]

@@istvansipos9940 you vastly underestimate the human capacity for procrastination. We'd still be debating our first move when the asteroid impacted. The people who have power in this world would not transfer their means of power to others so readily either. Which today manifests itself in the form of wealth. So cost will always be an issue.

[@miramarensis]

Another fact related to a stagnant manned space exploration reality is the fact that we're still using Chinese firecracker technology to propel any vehicle that wants to leave earth's orbit. Much needs to be done in the propulsion arena.

[@stoneeh]

Our current technology is fine for travel within the solar system. Fuel is incredibly abundant and cheap (which is explained in the video). What we do need new propulsion technology for is exploration of other solar systems.. but we have a looong way to go on that, in many regards.

[@miramarensis]

@@stoneeh But, and a big but is the fact that current and foreseeable rocket technology could not achieve traveling speeds that would make intra solar system exploration really feasible (human travel, that is) considering that a one way trip to Mars, (our only sensible destination) would require 7 months. Who would venture inside a can for such long period of time with so much uncertainty about survivability?

[@lbjackson3803]

Miramarensis, absolutely correct. Biggest and most harmful obstacle is the very people in charge of our manned spaceflight program: they are timid, unimaginative cowards. We need to fully reactivate, like yesterday, (the original) Project Orion: nuclear pulse propulsion. Whole number percentages of the speed of light at our fingertips. Mars and back in weeks. We've had the technology and know-how for more than 50 years. Absolutely pathetic leadership abandoned it: even Carl Sagan expressed contempt for this moronic betrayal. Anyone who attempts to argue against it is dangerous and must neither be believed, nor trusted. We're wasting precious time. "Our current technology is fine for travel within the solar system."

[@steverafferty4114]

Great insight on SLS.

[@joecat4892]

I could think of one way you could get into space (and then orbit) without any rockets at all..... well, two ways actually.. but the second would need some very serious ground based infrastructure .... both of these could allow much cheaper travel to get to the moon and beyond. Upto around 500 tons, I'd say.... Once you get rid of rockets space flight will become cheap.... the problem with rockets is they put massive strains on materials... and they put such weight / mass constraints too.

[@dorknate]

Love the conversation. You brought up an interesting question to Dr. Zubrin about what in the institutional culture in NASA caused things to stagnate for so long. Of course NASA is stagnating - they're a massive government bureaucracy. Government is notorious for offering a lower quality product at a higher cost. That doesn't mean NASA hasn't done great things, but there's really no comparison between the economic efficiency and potential of entrepreneurs and government bureaucrats who don't have the incentive to innovate, keep costs down, or negotiate very well. That's how it works in basically every industry. If humanity is ever going to the stars, we have to discard the old idea that the government has to be the primary driver of space industry.

[@danilorainone406]

the past as predictor,,question is,is the exploration thingy contained in a dozen genes,it is with no doubt native to the species,,infants have bolted from roman & cavelady cribs since we first showed up here,a paltry lgth of time in cosmological terms,100k years ago, we ought to go to the moon mars, land a crew to thoroughly explore dig , chop,travel in buggies, figure out how to restore water flora fauna, to make oxygen,adding a protective atmosphere,, we who are visiting godiers classroom may see this in our lifetimes,maybe not,I;d bet we will sooner than we think.

[@bannisher]

Im jealous of my daughter. She's going to see amazing steps in the next 80 years.

[@orlandovazquez9662]

Don't be jealous, be proud. Although it won't be you seeing these advances,it will be because of you your future generations will.

[@jimmyshrimbe9361]

Frack yes!!

[@dantetomic7049]

Only those that cannot understand Infinity will question whether there are others like us in the Universe. The possibilities in a Infinite Universe are such that the existence of a real Superman or a real Mickey Mouse out there somewhere are very probable and real.

[@Sarah-ok6xq]

Space cargo to orbit will be cheaper than first class postage. I'm not sure about that but I'm just an undergraduate dummy.

[@notjack2491]

You know how Sci-Fi shows like Star Trek always had corny humanoid aliens? What if that's the future? Humans living on off world colonies evolving slightly differently?

[@MhillPlays]

It’s quite plausible that different environments could alter human evolution on different worlds. But we tend to alter our environments to suit us, so maybe not.

[@chetanbiswas9076]

The background music is completely unnecessary and distracting.

[@PaulFCB1899]

Fast forward to 2069: Still only the moon ;/

[@Akeldama9]

Hopefully Elon Musk & SpaceX have nothing but good launches. Figure out the kinks while they're on the ground so that the launches go perfectly.

[@deletedgamer111]

I don't believe so. Elon Musk has achieved most of the goals he said he would in the timeframe he set, now more companies entering the field so the competition grows, which usually drives progress even further. Even more so, it's a hundred years from the Moon landing that you're talking about. Look at how cars and planes developed in the first century since their invention. We already have a lot of the necessary science, it's only a question of people with resources putting it all together and pushing forward.

[@strategicthinker8899]

God, I hope not.

[@MarsKvaratskhelia]

Paul Cristian true, when Europeans first found America in about 20 years it was colonized if we were on the moon it would be colonized already it’s so simple

[@thomaseliason8376]

Theoretically, HE3 could be a *very* significant resource.

[@janhanchenmichelsen2627]

I am a simple man, I click "like". And hope for the best!

[@Mr.Deleterious]

A lot of us will be long gone in 2069. What we do now we do for our kids and their kids and so on. In a way, Earth is a generation ship.

[@1pcfred]

Without some serious changes starship Earth does not have too many more generations in it for our species. If we can't make it here then we can't make it anywhere.