Will WoW Classic Be Successful? A Review

[@shapeofclassic6221]

”Sorry for advertising my Twitch-channel” for 5 seconds in one 21 minutes long video. God damn I love how humble soul you seem to be!

[@qwopiretyu]

Right? Watched all of his content, I don't remember a patreon, Squarespace, Blue Apron, Skillshare, or Dollar Shave Club ad. Madlad is doing this for fucking free I guess

[@chriss6356]

its because he's canadian

[@ahpadt]

OdieMikes he has patreon

[@deefour28]

ahpadt the good thing is he doesn’t plug it every chance he can

[@thevlaka]

Serial killer confirmed.

[@CraigThomas2070]

I'm coming back to WoW because of Classic. I havent played at all since 2013/2014ish.

[@naturalascension7013]

Same. It's been since 2009 for me. I can't wait!!

[@jasonbracewell6279]

I quit around the time MoP was announced.

[@CraigThomas2070]

@@jasonbracewell6279 I got bored during that time. The game changed. I loved vanilla 15 years ago. I am excited to relive the moments, barrens chat, grind, and reputation building with others. I felt more connected to my actions.

[@jasonbracewell6279]

@@CraigThomas2070 I was a little kid when the game came out. Didn't even hit max level till WOTLK. I'm 17 now and classic drops the day after I start classic. Excited to really experience the game in its fullness.

[@CraigThomas2070]

@@jasonbracewell6279 wow! No pun intended. That's awesome! You're half my age, but I hope they capture the magic of vanilla, it was a beautiful groundbreaking time. I know we have come far in development, but it was just done right. There were bumps on the way, but it was amazing. So rewarding. Wrath was still fairly true to this so you should be comfortable. I hope your experience is awesome.

[@coupdechase]

Ah yes, the best WoW content creator has given us another gift. Thanks for the vid champ!

[@barsnack7999]

best wow content is baiting people with nostalgic scenes? LOL

[@younghegelian4815]

@@barsnack7999 What the fuck are you on about dumb ass!?

[@xLimitlesso]

@@barsnack7999 certainly better than anything to do with retail.

[@rKAL-EL]

#truth.com

[@heroman1322]

bar snack It’s not baiting if that is literally what the video is about. Currently, this IS the best WoW content we can get besides Machinimas.

[@mikeconrad1082]

We are going home... August 27th.... Classic Forever

[@loushear4497]

I had it when it came out. Never got to play it thou. So looking forward to it.

[@martinivanov1319]

the game was most unique in vanilla

[@matosiy1505]

No more Russian overran private servers for me! (thank jeebus)

[@auby3901]

See you in the homeland, brother.

[@RichyRich2607]

You think you do

[@greatafricanhornedfrog2954]

That tower quest! Did bubble run on my paladin back in 06 for it lol, still remember it well to this day. So hyped for classic! Love your content m8

[@BBsheepy]

I love Wotlk as well, I'm looking forward to Classic, I'm ok with giving up current wow

[@y00zvaporeon]

"I actually care about my gear" - Next thing that happens is a view of your character wearing a helmet with a small circulating radar attached.

[@JBSessionss]

ah yes, the gnomeregan hat :D Every caster had it at some point

[@Hobodeluxe960]

@@JBSessionss or that thing you get in Tanaris to search for the piles of dirt. Looks about the same.

[@Dragon_Lair]

Something I truly miss from WoW was the character class quests as you leveled up in the old days. I was playing a Shaman and I absolutely loved the quests to unlock and learn more totems by gaining the blessings of the spirits and proving my worth to them to have their aid. It made me far more invested in him. He also could solo relatively easily because my totem buffs could power up my weapons, the earth totem skills, so I could use crappier weapons longer because good weapons were hard to come by. Now, I can barely play at all because I have no intention of buying my way, or using the free token, to get to max level and have the end-game stuff. There are literally hundreds of hours that could be a lot of fun playing which are not. I want WoW classic because I want that satisfaction of leveling feeling worth it again.

[@estooo]

Will WoW Classic be successful? Find out next time on Warcraft World C!

[@ricardotelles3925]

I soloed the BRD key and also de MC attunment with a hunter. Was the best experience I've had in WOW. Nothing today comes closer in the sense of accomplishment. Also getting the first PvP armor set was fun, I loved Alterac Valley... good times.

[@bandaid6550]

You're the only streamer I'd like to play with, MadSeason. I'm glad you're liking it, and can't wait until it comes out.

[@Pomfer_]

Are you sure you don't want to see more Asmongold reacting to other people's content?

[@iceburger]

I hope he will make a guild where people passionate about classic and this channel will join and play together, i'm sure folks that like MadSeason are nice people and would make a great guild. I'm sad that I'm not from the US so that I could join as well, but I hope those who do will have a great time!

[@briansmith3011]

I would too, if he wasn’t an Allie 😉

[@nonstopjoliver]

@@iceburger the guild could be called "Seasons Greetings" or "Times of Madness" or something similar. I completely agree though. I think a guild connected to this guy and the channel would be enjoyable. Smooth, soothing, and pleasant, like his voice.

[@jniles]

I cannot agree more. I understand WoW is an MMORPG, but I'm just not a very social person. I also have had a lot of negative experiences playing with others, and I hear it's much better these days, but I was just turned off to playing with others. I prefer to play alone, but MadSeason is definitely somebody I would enjoy playing with! Thanks for all you do MS! :)

[@ikhbjhbkm5]

Talent points just feel good dude! Even if they end up mostly cookie cutter. The progression feels right.

[@WadeAllen001]

Yeah, it doesn’t matter if you respec to min-max your character at max level, but actively selecting your next power increase every time you level feels much more rewarding and enjoyable than what the current games does, which is nothing.

[@Listen2Concentr8]

As if post-talent tree WoW did not have one objektively best spec pr class. That whole argument is so bad.

[@MooseCastle]

@@Listen2Concentr8 Modern talents have devolved into "pick this for single target and this for aoe" if you're lucky, or "pick this fullstop" if you're not. With a couple of exceptions I guess, but even if one talent is 2dp higher than another, people will use it anyway. I never understood why we couldn't have both systems, more customisation is never a bad thing.

[@naturalascension7013]

@@Listen2Concentr8 No, see. That's the problem. It turned into picking the best spec as opposed to when there was no such thing. It was how you mastered your own unique specialization of skills that made your character what it was. There was in many cases no best spec. It was about how you mixed skills.

[@falconovic688]

yup, i hated the talent system revision, loved vanilla talents. they were perfect! Can't wait to get back to it!

[@serarthurdayne9490]

Yep. This is exactly how I remember it. I even remember those Redridge elite quests. This is the best WoW ever was

[@1024det]

Madseason I agree 100% with everything you said, except.. dont thank Blizzard for classic, thank Blizzard 2004.

[@1024det]

Joheg Sounds like you are the one with the disability

[@DrunkenSailors1]

@@joheg8433 he means that old bliz should be praised for creating classic, the current acti-blizz re-releases classic only for profit,i doubt the original developers of the game even works there anymore.

[@ElevatedSavage]

Ive never played world of Warcraft but classic makes me wanna play

[@JrClips27]

Literally the best time to

[@DrunkenSailors1]

you can try it but soon u will understand that if u dont play 10 hours minimum per day u wont actually be irrellevant or enjoy the game.I loved Hardcore mmos at the time (2003- Lineage 2-classic vibes)but if u are a busy person today just forget it.

[@galadballcrusher8182]

@Orion Valentine u re so wrong kid that u dont know shit, i played it loved it and ever since i m ranting how pussified gradualy the game became by blizzard listening and catering to whinney instant gratification seeking kiddies who can't see another class having a cool ability without screaming "WANNNA" so sooner or later every class got a disrupt, a self heal, a stun ....just with diferent names... fuck this and gimme classic back anytime

[@JrClips27]

@Orion Valentine boy shut your ass up. I was playing since Dec 2004. Got it on my bday the 27th and starting playing Jan 2nd. Youre the dumbass who didn't play it at all.

[@TouhouGaijin]

@Orion Valentine I never played it back in the day. I play it now, and I love it. You fuck off.

[@Kulunu1992WOW]

I couldn't have said it better. Left Wow in Cata and now decided to come back for Classic. Thank you for your Videos, they help me keeping the hype train going.

[@Matt-qu3pg]

Krozair i came during wrath, left right as cata came out. Im with you im excited to try this game out during its former glory days

[@Tedmaster14]

XD 12:09 Madseason: "MadSeasonShowis a pretty cool channel for classic." Random dude: "hm think I've watched that before" Madseason: "Yeah his voice is really boring but he's a nice dude"

[@mattf1787]

Love how detailed you go into vanilla wow, really nostalgic and hype for the release!

[@Reac2]

Modern WoW is a Single Player game where NPCs are controlled by other players

[@bynamscott5564]

i dont get it

[@bynamscott5564]

@Jdm34 12 but why and how are other players npcs? can you explain that better pls

[@migueloliveira2130]

@@bynamscott5564 it is an analogy for for how u can do everything without contact, dungeon finder, raid finder, u literally can play it alone

[@Rittler128]

kinda like real life. We've come full circle.

[@KP-qz3fy]

Yeah the idea of equality can literally destroy anything. Equality means dragging everyone down to the lowest level. You can't make dumb people smarter, but you can punish and hinder those who would normally excel. Affirmative action and balance in all things means the destruction and promise of mediocrity in all things. Equality is a scourge on humanity and will doom anything to failure by the very nature of the idea.

[@Brucey69]

You intro scene is great. Very professional channel

[@aydenwhite247]

Can't wait for my first Deadmines run! That will be when the nostalgia kicks in for me.

[@bol3iz]

I love everything about this video. I wish you could continue making WoW content.

[@slothc]

I gave it a shot. First game in over 5 years that hooked me hard and fast. Completely different game than when I stopped playing (MoP).

[@mikaelrusin1596]

It is such a refreshing breath of fresh air, to see someone else's perspective on Vanilla. There is so many things where i keep finding myself thinking, "Wait, what? People did X? You could do Y?! Where did you get Z item?" I really am sad about the fact that BFA was such a dud, because i loved Legion - but truth be told - I want the journey - not the Gambling. Have a good one.

[@kenpachiJoe]

Damn i haven't played the classic and i almost cried of nostalgic feelings

[@user-ko1qo7qw8r]

I now have the itch haha

[@kenpachiJoe]

Now i have to play reign of chaos and frozen throne

[@kenpachiJoe]

White-Van Helsing i might stream them before classic is out :)

[@naturalascension7013]

@@kenpachiJoe Start now they take a while. You have 6 weeks. go!

[@Bugumir]

Current WoW vs Classic is a metaphor for modern society. Balance is a myth and it's a myth that destroys rather than creates what it tries to do.

[@TravisPluss]

Bugumir ya. They"balanced" the crap out of modern WoW and now it's boring/mediocre.

[@kicsihubi]

Wow classic feels like coming home to me. I missed the feeling of the leveling, that things actually matters... Good old Loch Modan, Duskwood, Redridge, here I come!!

[@ooooswain]

Duskwood! I loved that place. I'm getting so hyped for this. I can't believe it's been 13 years

[@jefflarson1652]

@@ooooswainI remember Duskwood as being the zone where the quests were all at one end and the quest givers were all at the other end. Lots of running, and as a priest, tossing fort on everyone running in the other direction.

[@tangbein]

Playing a hunter and what baffles me is that I know each and every spell I have and how to best use it. How about that? In BfA you only need one spell to take down 10 enemies at once, but if I'm going to take down three trolls for example, I'll have to let my pet pull them all, then use scare beast on one of the trolls pet, then lure one of the trolls into an ice trap I have set, then deplete the caster troll of its mana, using a sting, before taking down it and the other troll before the ice trap on the third troll goes away.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

seeing how many people played vanilla and then joined private servers to play vanilla again. and those players are still ready to play classic again!, that shows a lot. and the reason is vanilla was truly an MMORPG in everyway and people love that.

[@Joek9100]

I have been playing a private vanilla server since classic beta came out and I am loving it. Even on a private server the community is awesome

[@Darkgale69]

id never play a classic private server but ill be playing classic wow

[@Joek9100]

@@Darkgale69 maybe I'll see you there!

[@DaveFallows]

I've leveled to 60 three times across various private servers over the years. Each time I knew the character I was playing was extremely finite. Looking forward to doing it again and again...

[@ablet85]

I honestly wonder if they had released this with a complete graphic overhaul but with everything else the same. Would it kill current WoW?

[@jerryphillips6593]

I definitely love your videos , it’s not over hyper , or over dramatic . It’s logically , non biased and just fun to watch.

[@EdBurke37]

I agree that Wrath was the point where the balance between "each class/spec is unique" vs "each class/spec is playable" was at it's best. Here's hoping they can find that balance again.

[@davemaybee1618]

The loot grind in BC and WoLK was too easy / I hope they don’t push BC within the first few years, presuming success. I think they could add some content for L60s past Naxx if people really rush thru too fast. Scaling in the xpansions and adding classes was fun but it also jumbled many guilds and servers - there are zones that could be used that needn’t affect later xpacs

[@badmothercluckerxii4473]

sure thing dude, unholy dk with shadowmorne was very balanced in pvp xD same to warriors and pallas

[@cattysplat]

@@badmothercluckerxii4473 Put in the time and effort with teamwork, you get rewarded, that was how the old MMOs used to play.

[@theGhoulman]

Mad.. your voice is WHY I am here. I listen to your show, less than watch. Keep it up, someone in the media biz might just clue in and offer you a gig. Keep it up! Your voice is, well, a voice! THAT IS RARE. Don't ever stop. I am forever your fan :)

[@Reippa]

Rip social life! Oh wait didn't ever have one. Oh well.

[@FusRoDah2]

It's the price a hero pays.

[@aarenmitts3667]

I've been more social in classic than in other games in ages.

[@krusher181]

This is the most social game you could choose, though? Bad joke declared.

[@huskytales9839]

Your videos have really helped hype me for this release. I find myself incredibly torn over which class to play, so much so that I think about it often. It's a good problem to have as a gamer. Thanks for the phenomenal content.

[@immortalis1001]

If I ever hear someone tell me that; "Hey man, the game starts at 60", I will choke them to death and enjoy my WOW classic experience from a prison cell. EDIT: I actually BETA tested the original game and played it for over a decade on and off. Do you know how many times I raided? Zero. So no, my enjoyment is in character progression and crafting which actually starts at level 1.

[@antiHUMANDesigns]

Personally, I think the game starts around lvl 10. At least that's how it feels to me. First 10 levels feel a little like a tutorial, or introduction.

[@tonyshaw581]

My question is what are you going to do when you reach the end of classic? Are you going to cry for TBC to be added and so on? It won't be classic anymore will it. I remember vanilla back in 05 as well as anybody and it will be fun for nostalgia's sake, but I don't think it will last. Why you may ask. Because once the majority of people finish all its content, classic will die. And, why add on other expansions when they already exist in the retail version?

[@antiHUMANDesigns]

@@tonyshaw581 Yeah, that's the problem. And if Classic becomes hugely successful, they can't just let it die, can they? Seems to me that they would kind of be forced to keep developing it. But I have no idea how they'd solve this problem.

[@kaid6486]

@@tonyshaw581 lol this didn’t age well

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

@@tonyshaw581 bullshit..I never understood people whoi talk shit like you. I and many others will play classic forever..Just start new servers and its a completely new experience. Fuck that retail shit.

[@45Cookies]

I just recently found this channel and I've been watching MadSeason's videos for quite a few nights back to back now, and I have to say, I have enjoyed each one so far. Presentation, informative, etc etc. It's a blast to listen to and just watch. That said for this video it's crazy to think about this: I dropped WoW hard early-early on in BFA. I hated everything about it. I felt like it was broken promise upon broken promise and a shell of what they gave in Legion (which I thoroughly liked Legion) when they announced Classic, I took it as a joke "WE HAVE TO GO BACK!" type joke. (At this time I was well into Final Fantasy 14, which I personally think it's the best MMO on the market at this moment, my opinion haha) But as things slowed down for me in FFXIV, I kinda just stopped playing it. I loaded up my Battle.net and saw Classic and said "What the hell..." Subbed for a month and have ONLY played Classic for a few weeks. I picked Warrior (low and behold I was foolish to think I could conquer Classic as a Solo Dual Wield Fury Warrior... It's truly a rough world out there....) But I made more friends in the couple weeks playing Classic then I have in what feels like 4+ years in retail.... The community is amazing. I had people running up to me while I was questing in Darkshore saying "Here! Have this!" and they'd give me a green for no cost at all. It was amazing. (I never really got to play vanilla due to it being out/around when I was younger so it's an experience.) Classic has made me believe that there is passion to be had left with WoW. Honestly, I am not sure if I could go back to Retail. I tried - logged in to my Rogue and promptly logged out and back to my Classic Warrior. haha. I am enjoying this game no matter how much I want to pull my hair out with frustration. XD The meaningful journey. Cheers friends!

[@Gherrilheira]

People: On classic there's no titanforging rng bullshit Me having ptsd memories: of the Whale, of the Wolf, of the Bear, of the Boar, of the Eagle, of the Monkey...

[@TheRealAndiBar]

yeah but of the Whale, of the Wolf.. etc. is mostly only on greens and not epics

[@recobozzor628]

Those were in the game to help you either with leveling, or with gold. And you simply can't use THIS example as being similar to titanforging. I mean...the whole "of the X" is only a side gear for leveling, and once you hit 60, there is no more "of the X" that worth more than its vendor price. In BfA...ALL ITEMS, ALWAYS, have a titanforging chance...and EXPECIALLY after max lvl, everyone is playing the titanforging casino. You just compared APPLES with ORANGES, using "of the X" and titanforging as being the same. They so are not.

[@williamjones6971]

You had to be careful talking about "Jerkin of the Monkey". It just doesn't sound right...

[@Gherrilheira]

@@recobozzor628 Not sure about other classes, but for bear dudus the shoulders from Sunken Temple minibosses are going to be BiS until phase 3 with BWL and the hands from Urok on LBRS are BiS till PVP rank 12 or AQ40, whatever gets first. Also, it was a joke, you know, I don't have real ptsd over a game.

[@MunsonRoyE27]

GPOW 4 life

[@neophyte7817]

Hey man, love your content. I'm new to WoW and I joined at the very end of Legion, at that time I had just got to 110 so BFA was my first crack at an expansion. I've played on and off and with the release of 8.2 at this point i'm bored to shit with the game. I even made a few alts to see if it was my class that was boring but I realised it was the general feeling of logging in everyday to do the same shit. I'm super hyped for Classic as I ofc did not play back in the glory days and still to this day regret not trying it back then.

[@liuyisi4393]

honestly hearing how you say it makes me emotional. always be great to hear what the new comers say about WoW

[@MrMolzzon]

This vid brings up old memories of being split between both Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided and World of Warcraft (beta). = sub

[@Conceicao4]

Damn, I'm so excited for Classic. I started playing back in late BC and although a lot had changed already, many things resembled classic, and I'm really excited to revisit it all. Thanks, MadSeason.

[@RaiderDave42069]

Admittedly I'm biased, but I think Classic is gonna be a smashing success

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Judging at how well it has been doing in Twitch I'm sure it will

[@gg5115]

What's changed since 2005? Nothing really, except, computers and internet connections. Computers are 5x faster and 5x as many people have one. Everyone has fast broadband now. Even with the crappy machines, some of which were still on dialup, Vanilla got to 7 - 8 million subs. It can only be higher this time around. This is Blizz's to screw up.

[@humphrex]

tchuckatchuckatchucka

[@RadarFinsR]

watched a little of your stream, watching how much genuine fun you have was the biggest endorsement for Classic I've seen.

[@temez98]

Here before Asmonbald reacts

[@Snagprophet]

ASS MAN BALD

[@ndgvb6510]

Look at his mouth sometimes, his jaw sometimes wants to fell out of his mouth.

[@tyler7713]

Asmon if ur reading this ur bald

[@hallo-mt5tx]

SO MALD LULW SO BALD LULW

[@Shipperscum]

@@tyler7713 Imagine being young and bald.

[@rosalacroix6447]

the best memories about vanilla wow is the lvling. i loved discovering new areas and finally getting into places i couldn't go first. also meeting people along the way, teaming up for a bit then going separate ways again.

[@soussounaTV]

"You need to know what to pull, where to pull it, check if there's any patrols around" yep sums up my life

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

The comment about “...what’s the point in leveling...” is how I feel not only about current, but Shadowlands. I mean, yeah, they dropped the level cap, but 6.5 hours of actual play time for 40 levels? C’mon... Now, I could see it being close to heirloom (but not quite as fast), and it would be alright, but there’s still not the kind of character customization that we used to have. I find myself starting new toons all the time in retail, or just switching to classic for a while since I get tired of BfA so quick. Now... going back and soloing old dungeons, and farming old mounts (came back for BfA after leaving at Wrath), is quite a bit of fun, but it gets old, too.

[@MyanRiller]

Love your videos man. Keep up the great work.

[@Truppe4]

From the stream to the video. And back to the stream. A big kiss 😘 from Germany 🇩🇪

[@Little_86]

Seems like Germany is a place for vanilla community. Grüße gehen raus :D

[@danieltaege3155]

So ist es!

[@Infinitum0000]

Die meisten kommen von Ungespielt bestimmt xD

[@henningwagner1099]

Auch von mir schöne Grüße an alle!

[@hughjazz4936]

@@Little_86 Den Eindruck hatte ich auch! Viele Deutsche mit denen ich spiele werden Clasic zocken sobald es rauskommt. Grüße zurück =)

[@youngkingdom8131]

I KNEW you’d get hooked! I’ve been on private servers since 2014, and laugh every time I hear a KZbinr day that they’ll just play casually.

[@holygrail194]

WoW started going down hill when activision took over, sadly :( but I’m so hyped to play classic again. This is going to be amazing

[@AZWings]

Fantastic summary. Your points cover why I loved the game (I started late vanilla) and why I eventually stopped playing it in WoD. For me, all those things that people wanted for "convenience" changed the game, over time, to a point it wasn't the same game. I'm really looking forward to playing Classic...not for nostalgia, but because many of the things that annoyed people made it a good game, to me.

[@doubledprospecting1407]

I came from swg in early 2005 as well. So many good points! Thanks for sharing!

[@dreammfyre]

Retail is a sad parody at this point. I don't think I'll ever touch it again unless they soft reboot it and get rid off all the baggage. Like... the Insta teleporting, the sharding leading to no server communites, the ridiculous looking mounts and transmogs, the lore and storylines straight out of a bad cartoon, the brain dead daily grinds, the EZ mode levelling and dungeons etc etc. The sense of adventure and sense of immersion is just completely gone these days.

[@Mcdude02]

The story has always been out of a bad cartoon, it's an mmorpg )

[@naturalascension7013]

Indeed, this is long over-due. Original wow fans and supporters were left behind years ago for a failed experiment and now blizzard's finally getting the picture. Thank goodness! @ McDude Honeslty, the story from orcs and humans, tides of darkness where the elves were introduced and through the reigns of chaos and frozen throne up to the actual online game, the story like was as great as star wars if you ask me especially when you factor in the book trilogies. Later it drew away from the story due to blizzard responding to the larger population of consumers who didn't care about the story by doing what was most economical at the time and working more on solely expanding and modifying the game itself.

[@beyondgreatness1861]

Great video man. I quit at 85. When all classes started feeling like they didn’t need each other bc of the spells. I took pride in my role n doing it well.i had 5 80s. And one 85 lol. So pumped for classic.

[@seekervaltriz9447]

AH Our monotone Prometheus What fire of knowledge do you bring us? Great vids man

[@UltimateCarl]

Whoah, that cover of Color of the Summer Sky is so fuckin' chill. Thanks for always crediting all your music in the description, man.

[@petercarioscia9189]

I have been playing since Wrath and have never once cared about end game more than 'oh it's there' Leveling, questing story....that's for me that's all I do.

[@galadballcrusher8182]

then classic will get u to go bonkers

[@TheMonkeygoneape]

classic is what has gotten my buddy and I back into WoW after a 2 year hiatus and on and off playing since Burning Crusade

[@onegnometorule]

Wow! In your other videos, you're always so concerned to not come across as taking sides between classic vs current. Seeing you doing anything but, and raving about classic while pointing out current's shortcomings, shows how excited you must be about playing it. You sound (a bit) happier than usual. :)

[@Liqweed1337]

you are truly right mate, especially the james bond part got me. almost every quest feels like this aggain. nice video

[@angreeee]

"i stream in the morning" said guy on a platform where everybody is in different timezone

[@Shogoeu]

Shhh, or he will slap you with some FREEDOM!

[@grammatoncleric550]

He’s obviously American which, if you had common sense, would be about 3 hours of variation and enough to give you a general idea of the time of day.

[@6Twisted]

Because American's always forget that the world doesn't revolve around them.

[@tonyshaw581]

@@6Twisted Actually it kind of does. The global economy is based largely on what the USA is doing. The world's reserve currency is the US dollar. The rest of the world looks to the USA to lead the world during times of unrest. I could go on and on. So quite literally, the world does kind of revolve around the USA.

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

@@tonyshaw581 Lmao what the fuck are you talking? "The rest of the world looks to the USA to lead the world during times of unrest. " LMAO this is funny shit

[@kulrigalestout]

I know what ya mean about the whole hyper balance thing. With classes being so similar and the fantasies being largely in the form of visual effects, I can barely bring myself to maintain more than one character at a time. I eventually settled on a Kul Tiran Druid, and honestly see little reason to play anything else. My first character is one I still play now and then, mostly so that I can still have at least one Horde and one Alliance character at max level, but my heart just isn't in it anymore. It's not just that every class has an answer for everything, has emergency cooldowns for every situation, has a DPS cooldown or three, and so on. They also play roughly the same. Casters are all turrets, melee are all spammy resource builder/spenders, healers all use the same resource the same way, tanks are basically only different in terms of speed which is why DH and Monks are most often considered the funnest... I just miss having legitimate reasons to want to try out another class. I remember as a young Orc Warrior, I saw a Demonology Warlock with his Felguard and I thought to myself "Wow! Warlocks basically get a Warrior for a pet! That's so cool!" I remember finishing up a dungeon group, and the Mage teleported to a city where some quest turn ins were and I thought "Ugh, I'll have to slog it on foot". Along with having reasons to try other classes, there were also reasons to master one. I also remember when I first hit level four and learned Charge, my world changed forever. Someone in trade chat was trying to get a BRD run together, and was advertising that the Warrior in the group crit for 1k with Mortal Strike. Knowing when Battle or Berserker stance would be best, judging whether or not to switch at any given moment, and saving the group from a potential wipe by going into Defensive stance long enough for the other DPS to kill the boss, all made playing a Warrior engaging and rewarding. Dare I say, it was even fun. In defense of the current game, I will say this; at least the raids are fun the first few times.

[@sovelle]

I left full screen to hit the like button, and realized I had already done it

[@henryhunter9643]

It's kinda cute listening to him gush about how awesome Classic will be and how it will be just like it was, then seeing it become the mage boosting, hyper toxic, ultra world buff meta it became.

[@immagonko4261]

Yeah, minmaxers ruin everything :(

[@saintburrito2082]

Bruh love your videos, an yes love watching your streams. Keep it up. I am excited for classic. Taking a couple days off for it to no life it lol. Then back to adulting

[@jeffsmith3818]

me too! I haven't used vacation time for a video game release since TBC

[@Kamakazy0789]

Same here... still have 3 weeks to use, the week of aug 26th is looking mighty tempting

[@robinosterback8479]

i totoally feel you on the entire video, back then to level from 1-60 took aaages. and as you say you cant just pull 5 mobs and aoe them down when doing quests, i miss the good old times when u acutally had to crowd control in dungeouns and so on :D as an example now. you level to 120, 3 hours after you hit max level you are basically full epic geared and atleast decent geared! oh my god i cant even count how many times i ran throu for example stratholme/lbrs and so on to get the blue set pieces that were class specific!

[@psilimit]

Normal Mad Season voice: Soothing monotone. Excited Mad Season voice: Soothing monotone. Would I change it? Awe hey no! Another good video, TY!

[@adamfeher2210]

5:36 "If there's no real challenge it's no longer fun. If there aren't really any obstacles to overcome that activity just becomes chore. " With the woman night elf running in to the obstacle... It's a beautiful image. I got the goosebumps keep up the good work sir!

[@EtherPump]

Regarding the fixing of Azurite gear. I've been unsubbed since just before BoDA was released. But the one thing i know is that the new traits you get in the neck instead of the gear are so busted. They are all role based instead of spec based. so one trait that is bad for one spec in the game can be totally broken. Like "Blood of the Enemy" an 1.5min dps cooldown. Just activating it deal some minor damage but then all those you hit, you'll have 25% increased crit on those targets. AND your crits deal 35% more damage. For 15 seconds..." Imagine a class and spec like Fire Mage or Destro Warlock. Chaos Bolt for instance, Chaos Bolt always crits. So your critchance increases the damage of the spell instead of making it able to crit like normal spells. Stack that with the Blood of the Enemy and you have multiple stacking damage increases(25% more Crit chance which turns into straight up damage, then 35% more crit DAMAGE which increases the damage even futher). Making Chaos Bolt which is already scaling good and is the majority of Destruction's damage, it scales exponentially with this buff and you can just make ludicrous amounts of damage if you play well... BFA is a total shitshow. A bunch of bad decisions, neatly put into a single package.

[@renobtankit6019]

great vid thanks, Im one of those who started in the Beta years ago and was very into raiding doing about 7 hours per day after about 5 years i was so burnt out tried to come back over the years and it never felt the same, looks like I will log into the game today to start the epic grind woot.

[@youngkingdom8131]

It has long been foretold that only Blizzard could kill WoW. But no one saw this coming. RIP Retail.

[@bynamscott5564]

that sounds like a new meme of wow

[@simon7109100]

Actually WoW was mostly killed by the players. Most of the things in the game are in there because players wanted them.

[@youngkingdom8131]

simon7109 Unfortunately you’re right. But Blizzard was under no real obligation to do everything the players wanted. When my 5 year old wants to eat candy 3 meals a day and exclusively drink soda, I laugh and give her some broccoli and milk. Sometimes the experts do know what is best. Sometimes, “you think you do, but you don’t.”

[@Kottery]

I'm not in the Classic beta so I can only go off of private server experience but I 100% agree about that one quest in the orc castle in Redridge. I acted as a makeshift healer as a Paladin for our group who I joined to kill gnolls just a few moments before, but we decided to try our luck at that castle. We slowly and carefully made our way into and up the castle and killed the boss with no deaths, but a lot of healing on my part. This was like 2015 or whenever Nost was still relatively new yet I still remember it pretty clearly. On the flipside I can't recall a single memorable moment I've had on retail in YEARS...well I guess there's one memory, but it's more of a painful one. Waiting in line to get that Garn Nighthowl mount that dropped from an elite in Frostridge Mountains during WoD since we all thought the loot table was gonna change in the upcoming patch (it didn't if I recall correctly), I waited for HOURS for that mount.

[@MrJaffa78]

Always produce good content dude, appreciate everything you do. See ya on twitch!

[@rieyuki]

Wow, the story of how you came to WoW is almost just like mine! I was also hardcore playing SWG (Bloodfin server) before WoW! I also held on to that game while nearly everybody else in the guild slowly dropped out because it was such a bug-filled, beta quality game. I was sole hold-out in my guild, mostly because of the insane time/effort I had put into the "force sensitive" jedi grind (the one where you had to master each of the classes/professions, one by one). WoW came out in November 2004, and I got sucked into it, away from my padawan's jedi trials (to become a knight). After reaching level 60 on 3-4 characters in WoW, I burnt out and briefly came back to SWG intermittently in March 2005 to complete those jedi trials. The system was still draconian with respect to jedi character deaths: you'd get skillboxes removed, which was a significant penalty. The WoW analogy would be something like getting knocked back to level 110, then 100, then 90, then 85, etc. all the way from level 120 in WoW after dying enough times. You had to worry about dying to NPC rancors, and player character bounty hunters who would come hunting for you. At least it wasn't the original death penalty for jedi characters: permadeath. I completed those jedi trials and became a jedi knight, the night before servers shutdown to implement the infamous Combat Upgrade patch (CU - not to be confused with the even worse NGE that came later). I must have been one of the last characters to reach jedi knight in the old system, before the jedi system was revamped. I got to wear the long robe issued only to light/dark jedi knights, for only a few hours (padawans only had the short coat to wear) before servers were shutdown for maintenance. When NGE came out later that year, I stuck around, but the game was irreversibly changed - jedi was now a starting class in this new system (with no silly death penalty), and reportedly, SOE lost a huge majority of subscriptions. But I still stayed on a bit after NGE was released! I think through until late 2005. I was drawn back to WoW, and was there for the Ahn'Qiraj event, and stayed permanently after that. I started doing high end raids (at the time) like AQ40 and the original Naxx. Since vanilla WoW was sucking up all my focus, I didn't hear about the cancellation of SWG. I wasn't there the night the SWG servers were shutdown for good, and can only experience it through various KZbin videos. So that's my own SWG to WoW story.

[@LockpowerGaming]

I still don't have mine IDK if I even want to spoil it at this point. Probably better to just be patient.

[@jeffsmith3818]

I've been marathoning through all your wow classic content over the last couple weeks and got damn have you got me hyped for Classic! 69 days to go!

[@ilikepiedontu]

I think it will be for a while but long run seems kinda hard to determine.

[@KNByam]

It will survive longterm. Remember the people playing on private servers will have a place to go where they know no shady stuff is taking place and their characters remain for a long time.

[@Pop_A_Chaderall]

Your opening tune always brings we a weird wave of calmness. I love your videos man! Cant wait to watch your streams!

[@xtr0city]

With it being 2 weeks into the full release of classic, I have to say the community is so much better than normal wow. The comradery and pleasantness is back again and I love it.

[@nrogue9887]

this aged like bad cheese

[@mattlegas5448]

I really enjoy your videos. Coming back to classic has really been great. Echoing other comments and what you said it’s the leveling and journey that have made it so much more fun than other mmo’s.

[@superdaveozy7863]

a lv 20 5 man elite quest was more rewarding than any BFA raid boss. About sums it up yes.

[@johnnylongley1164]

You're videos are getting better and better. Keep up the good work. It's really incredible to see someone who has a genuine passion and knowledge for the game and what it needs creating content for Classic WoW. See you on Twitch very soon!

[@ryeyanmatthew]

a new madseason video is a happy day. the intro music plays and we're off!

[@The28thfish]

Thank you for putting this out and focusing attention to Classic. I managed to hop on the test realms for about an hour yesterday and couldn’t believe how much fun it was. Even though I started at the launch of BC, I felt that this expansion didn’t really tamper much with the original content of the game. It has been very missed and I’m looking forward to August.

[@jakabszili]

Could you tell us a timezone as well? Because noon for streaming kinda covers a lot. Thanks. Great video as allways :)

[@Echoparticle]

MadSeason is probably from one of the flyover states/midwest United States. Thats either CST or MST. Just a guess, I don't actually know.

[@TheHellnfire]

Time zone would be great! P.s. Lottsa Love from Australia 💓 currently 3:25am

[@Elnombrequeqieronoca]

i have been retired for almost 8 years.... watching YOUR videos, always feel like coming back. love your videos.

[@ashtonscalise6949]

Man, I'm so glad you emphasized how bad homogenization is. Wrath i could still tolerate, but I feel like TBC might have had a better balance:unique ratio. I feel so strongly about this issue and quit the day 4.0 dropped because of it.

[@camz3713]

Glad you found some enjoyment in the game. You made me really get nostalgic about my first experience of the game. I don't think I'll be revisiting this as I don't think I could get that balls deep in a game again. Once again, I'm glad you could experience the joy of WoW past. The love and devotion toward your character is missed these days. That said, my first char that I levelled.. I always have a spot in my heart for.

[@Sam1986E]

People saying that classic will be "successful" for this or that long.... Whats success?? To me, if i log in and there are people to do stuff with, then thats a successful game! Not the "7 million people play game x..." wake up people

[@selalewow]

I am pretty stoked for Classic. My husband and I play together and are taking our time deciding on what race and class we will be. Your videos are a big help :)

[@steelersfan419]

Plankton screaming: "CORRECT!"

[@edenlock]

Coming from someone who started playing WoW in Legion, I'm so excited for classic release. When I hit max level, I want it to feel rewarding. Everything currently feels too easy, everything is mindless clicking, even mythic+. (I'm not a hardcore raider but have cleared heroic in a few raids in the past so I cant speak for those at the top end.) I have said to a bunch of friends, and a lot of people in the guild I'm in, " if blizzard add a couple more ease of use things into the game, we're basically playing a glorified mobile game." I don't think anyone should want that. If you missed an entire patch, too bad, play through it and catch up. It's not a good game if you give everyone everything they need, even to get to end game content. No Challenge, No Fun.

[@WoWArenaChannel]

Mad, I can't recall where the initial music is from, sounds so familiar.

[@kostas_ts]

Look in the description, there you can find all the links. Its a remix of Diablo music :D

[@WoWArenaChannel]

@@kostas_ts ty!

[@supersaiyanzero386]

Always a good time with madseason. Just got back into WoW.

[@bluefate2159]

remember guys a new private server launches on 22 june called silverhand, prepare for classic if you didnt get into the beta. google lightshope for more info

[@Evil-Never-Dies]

I dig your passion and I feel ya. I played from release until this last expansion. I always loved the community of WoW (back then). You earned a reputation and you'd have people whisper you as soon as you log in if you were good at your role. A good DPS was judged more about CC (for five man's) and aggro management and not for DPS charts. I'm excited to return to the beginning. The journey was rough but we loved it for that. I hope new people enjoy it but they definitely will have a surprise about how much you have to RUN around. Edit: It's still amazing how Blizzard said - you think you want Classic WoW but you don't.

[@vegangainzhue4548]

Had to pause the video just to go and follow your twitch, best WoW related content on KZbin.

[@billbrooks9726]

Thoughtful and humble. Fantastic classic emotions. Thanks Mad.

[@davidpancielejko2403]

you must play classic mode with no mods and no looking up quests on google they were not there then

[@edgelordthechosen2231]

I figured that I would try the stress test this past weekend for a laugh. I thought I would be sick of it within an hour or so. Made a character and logged on at 3PM Sat. When I next looked at the clock it was 1AM Sun. The classic WOW is better than the current WOW in every possible way. Can't believe how excited I am to get back into it.