Will You Love Nvidia’s GPU Now?

[@UFDTech]

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[@DarkestSoldier]

M580 case paired with a b580 GPU. Best combo

[@Pateramalina]

7:30 if you put any effort into research you woudl find Nvidia papers about Neural rendering.

[@Only_x_Bored]

WHat's the point when there are no proper games???

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Nvidia will do literally anything but give more vram

[@Foxy_proxy]

Yeah because they want you to buy the next card 2 years later. When the low amount of VRAM makes yours obsolete.

[@wolfstorm5394]

Technically speaking they are giving more VRAM, you're just not happy on the lower end, moving up will get you your VRAM

[@josephdias5859]

@@wolfstorm5394 yeah but a 400$ amd card has the same amount of vram as a 800$ nvidia card

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@josephdias5859 Well yes, that's what inflation and high demand will do, but mostly high demand..idk if you've noticed but Nvidia has the majority market share by a long shot, last I checked they had like 88% in the desktop space, so that means there's a lot of demand, they need to produce way more than AMD or Intel has to in order to meet or at least try to meet demand

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@josephdias5859 Well yes, that's what inflation and high demand will do, but mostly high demand..idk if you've noticed but Nvidia has the majority market share by a long shot, last I checked they had like 88% in the desktop space, so that means there's a lot of demand, they need to produce way more than AMD or Intel has to in order to meet or at least try to meet demand

[@senmage]

I've had nvidia overlay off this entire time. No performance issues. Its typically best practice to run no overlays if you want every frame possible.

[@Dissline]

If only they would optimize software for all graphics cards. But since it wouldn’t generate enough profit, they stick to poorly designed operating systems that drain computing power and tank FPS.

[@senmage]

@Dissline even apps that are heavily optimized to run in the background are still just that, something running in the background. if people want every ounce of their hardware working on a game you kinda need to close a lot of things to get that. Granted all of this is useless if say Microsoft releases a shitty update and messes with schedulers.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@itsprod.472]

Do you even disable Steam Overlays? Doesn’t it disable achievements too however

[@senmage]

@@itsprod.472 you can disable the steam overlay on a per game basis if its causing issues. If I'm playing a steam game that's multi player I typically leave it enabled. Just less alt tabbing to steam if I am inviting someone or someone invites me. Main rule of thumb is just not to run too many overlays as they can conflict with each other. I will typically try to only use the games overlay if it's needed to function.

[@chrisspellman5952]

I do not want "AI" graphics. I want the card to render, not make up things.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Ok? I'm very happy with dlss The new graphics we get now are literally 5-10 years ahead of their time and in some cases looking better than no dlss / dlaa just making it look better And rtx hdr is a godsend The far future is going to be ai "making up" the entire game like we've seen with ai minecraft. Idk how many decades that is away but they're gonna laugh people still wanted to render things themself

[@antlion4]

Yea screw there AI tax and there soon too be neural tax

[@Thready_Carnival]

​@@Fridge_Fiend You're describing a hell. A world where little new is created and corporations uphold their massive cultural and economic power by literally feeding the corpses of their and billions of others past to a giant machine that chews up nature and spits put meaningless dribble for consumption. Id rather just have my graphics card render and not make stuff up. TAA and all that other temporal gunk is bad enough, texture hallucinations would make some games unplayable

[@wolfstorm5394]

Work smart...not hard... remember that my friend, cheers!

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@SrtRacerBoy]

We need a new 1080ti/3080 $699 value gpu. Today that would be a $850 card. Id kill for a $850 RTX 5080 FE

[@JasonKnightStone]

Both those cards were mistakes in the eyes of nvidia, to much power on too little price tag, even more when they saw how much people paid for the 3000 series at slacped prices

[@wolfstorm5394]

Blame inflation and low tier budget gamers, notice VRAM panicking wasn't a thing when pascal launched, pretty much everybody buying a low tier GPU at the time would be happy with 2GB-4GB average, maybe 6GB max, but now with the VRAM panick introduced by tech KZbinrs everybody wants overspec budget GPUs, resources are limited not to mention we're still fresh off a global chip shortage, we got people crying about how 8GB isn't enough on entry level GPUs, Nvidia has the market share by almost 90% as of 2024, that means they need to produce a lot more GPUs to meet demand compared to it's competitors, big strain on resources, if they give in and start to over spec their lower tier GPUs this likely puts the higher end GPUs at risk in some way.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

💀

[@curio78]

we need a 16gb version of 4070 super. that is what we need.

[@SrtRacerBoy]

@@curio78 isn't there a ti variant with 16GB's?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

No. Bought the 7900 XTX instead.

[@Kmcornell23]

It's a good choice. I love mine. Tons of performance and VRAM. I just paired it with a 9800x3d and holy balls is it fast. 😂

[@the_thornhill]

Excellent choice

[@seyahtan24]

That's my card too. The 5090 would have to be supremely powerful for me to upgrade.

[@bradhaines3142]

same. its glorious at 4k. actually enough vram to not be worried the next few years

[@Bf3junky]

Had one sucked so I bought a 4090

[@achimhaun2726]

We'll never get another 1080ti, a card so amazing and well priced that everyone wants one. At this point I'm so fed up with Nvidia that I won't buy a single product from them for at least 5 years.

[@ChuckTheChosen]

@@srobeck77 1080Ti was 100 bucks more expensive than 1080 but 30-35% more performant and with 20% more VRAM and to this day it gives you raster performance comparable to 3060 Ti levels. It had incomparable value, today NVIDIA actually never sells you more performance for less money.

[@Juliencharb]

​@@srobeck77i dont know if you know about price to performance ratio , but this card was kinda the god of price to performance because it lasted sooooo long some people upgrade from 1080 to 4080 skipping some gen because the card was that good , had enough Vram (11gb back in the day was MASSIVE) to run 1080p 1440p and even try some 4k , i'm not a Nvidia fan because of the pricing lately but the 1080ti was something else really

[@fernandocbr]

Me too, already switched to amd and I'm watching intel gpus, i hope intel keep doing a good work

[@iviaverick52]

1080Ti user here, considering switching to Intel personally after how much of an improvement the B580 has been for only $250. Next gen Intel might be a worthwhile upgrade finally.

[@M1szS]

​@@srobeck77The 1080ti is obviously worse than newer 80 tier cards, but people love it because it was an amazing price to performance card when it came out. It was relatively way better than current gen cards for the same price

[@Dawnkeekong]

9:59 the 5090 is on a 512-bit bus and not on a 384-bit bus

[@EnforcerGamingX]

Literally just came to comments to mention the same lol.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@Kmcornell23]

It's a good thing they didn't force people to upgrade to the app before it was ready... Oh wait...

[@xrafter]

What?

[@Kmcornell23]

​@@xrafter If you want the latest drivers, you have to download the Nvidia App. Not to mention that a LOT of KZbinrs said the app was great so a lot of people "upgraded". Nvidia shouldn't have forced an unfinished app on people but here we are. So TECHNICALLY you don't have to use it, but you won't be getting new driver updates. At least that's what the internet says. I use an AMD card so I don't have to deal with that nonsense.

[@dr_diddy]

was it forced? I still have geforce. I also update my drivers like once a year so maybe you have to open it or something?

[@KamilKostuch-ze6oz]

They did​@@xrafter

[@xrafter]

@dr_diddy It is forced only if you want to update your drivers to latest, which isn't necessary if current one work correctly. And has no security flaws.

[@ironeleven]

The B580 has been hyped because VRAM and pricing have been two major pain points for budget PC builders for an entire generation, and we know for a fact that the former isn't improving in (hell, even a step *above*) the price category that the B580 currently occupies.

[@bradhaines3142]

no, not an entire generation, try 3. 10 series was the last time they actually gave enough vram, since then it was the same or relatively worse. the 3080 was a sin. that core can easily handle 4k medium settings, but there literally isn't enough vram for it to run the settings its actually capable of

[@LordApophis100]

@@bradhaines3142The B580 has enough VRAM because it was targeted for a higher performance tier judging by the die size. It is about the size of a 4070 TI. Something went wrong and they had to shift it down a few segments. There is no way Intel will continue to sell those at $250 given the estimated production cost of $300+. Just another fake MSRP.

[@bradhaines3142]

@@LordApophis100 die size and performance arent the same. they're completely different companies with completely different designs, you can't just say more is more. production cost could be because of lower production runs meaning higher per unit cost

[@LordApophis100]

@@bradhaines3142 Die size is directly related to cost, it reduces yield in addition to using more silicon. Of course the economy of scale is much worse for Intel. 400$ is probably where they earn some money and where most AIB cards sit.

[@Soravia]

Intel is just pushing for "higher performance" for situations that stress competition on higher resolution, not actual chip performance. To find chip performance, lock in at 1080p without resolution or texture enhancements that require more RAM.

[@Juliencharb]

I'm a fairly new pc builder and its crazy how much every single item even used are close to the msrp every single time , in Canada at least its almost impossible to get something under 1500$ to run newer modern games , i get it when people said to me "with a pc you can do whatever you want and game cost way less" but god damn the entry price is SOOOOO HIGH , an "upgrade" for my gpu would be the price of a new console every single time thats really crazy , i clearly remember my father getting parts for mad low when i was younger , the used market was also pretty good but now it seems like everybody wants to be a pc builder or make profit on old hardware

[@JasonAtlas]

Linus tech tips single handedly bought all the second hand parts. I'm sorry he's impacting you this way 🙏

[@falefergayutup5624]

​@JasonAtlas dude what xd? Things that affected the market heavily was Covid which affected production of everything, and then there was a shortage of silicon too that affected production on top of that. Prices went up like crazy during the 30 series of Nvidia and hence not many people buy GPUs and if they sell they sell for almost retail value, since production has improved after 30 series prices have gone down a bit better on the 40 series, so you can basically get a 4070 super, comparable in performance to a 3080ti, for around 600$, which is cheap because the 3080ti cost in release 1200$ for the Founders Edition if you were even lucky to get one. We got scalpers too that affected the market, but thanks to prices going down in retail the used market is balancing itself out, it's gonna take some time still but I'm seeing better prices for sure, just wait for a good deal, or negotiate cuz believe me, this people are not gonna sell GPUs at retail prices when the retail prices are finally not so crazy up and very close MSRP

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😢

[@kaiserc2471]

Here's the secret: everyone is making their own AI chips because Nvidia keeps playing around with them. Google even just tossed out a quantum compute chip of their own. Nvidia will very shortly be begging back to the hobbyist market for gaming/AI. If they want that, they're going to really have to rethink their goober attitude.

[@TokyoTraveller]

Computer, turn on Cyberpunk 2077 Neural network: "Sorry, I can't do that, Dave..."

[@nismo2070]

Is Nvidia doing the apple thing with vram?? "8gb of PC ram in a mac is the same as 16gb in a PC".

[@CaptainJonathan]

"8GB of VRAM is the same as 16GB of VRAM" -NVIDIA (not an actual quote for those that can't read sarcasm)

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@EclipseWarlord]

I don't have brand loyalty, for none of the brand's are loyal to me. I'll get the best GPU for the value in the price range I have available at the time. Right now, that seems to favor AMD.

[@PlumCrazyPC]

The way Reese stared into my eyes to give me deals was magical! Happy Christmas to all of the team.

[@itsprod.472]

5080 used to be the flagship card and one that most can buy under 1000$ lol and Nvidia is still giving it only 16gb

[@Steele_Wings]

The RX 7900XT is the sweet spot. A long time Nvidia fan and I have to admit that card is nice. Asrock phantom system. I7 1200 DDR4 & ASROCK RX 7900TX. AFFORDABLE SYSTEM. Upgrade when new AMD board bugs worked out.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

🔥

[@Hervoo]

If Nvidia wants me to love them then let me upgrade my own rtx 3070 card from 8gbs of vram to 16

[@viscountalpha]

someone was upgrading graphics cards with more ram and they were performing considerably better. Nvidia knows this and doesn't want to do it.

[@Soravia]

eVGA used to have capacity to do stuff like that from customer cards. Replacing RAM, capacitors, etc under warranty

[@ranjitmandal1612]

💀

[@Soravia]

Memory speed in 5090 is slower to lower power draw. Probably can OC to 5080 speed since they should be same chips. Any power restrictions could be balanced by lowering GPU speed a tiny bit.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

🔥

[@mexicanhalloween]

lol, nvidia trying to spin their obvious sandbagging of the 5080 by saying it has slightly faster memory, they're definitely going to make the 5090 price hurt, I'm going to say $3k

[@eko3484]

I ordered a 4070 ti super. Thinking this first release of 50 series isn't going to be worth it. But mostly I'm just impatient lol.

[@Spacecoke]

Rip

[@TrionYT]

RTX 5080 in bodycam:2 fps max vram usage XD

[@hadi123xv8]

Neural rendering may actually NOT fix the problem with the vram limit, game devs (as I noticed from the last 5 years) won't care about the people who have low pc specs and would still build games that require high-end specs like 12+ vram, just so the textures can look "beautiful". even if time passes and "neural rendering" became as old as ray tracing the majority of game devs would still not try to include this tech in their games.

[@memthemems1026]

AMD = Asserting Market Dominance

[@soldonwish]

Was gonna upgrade my 3080 to a 5080 but this small amount of vram is annoying maybe they’ll learn their lesson with the 60 series

[@viscountalpha]

i dont like how nvidia does business. their slimy ways will come back to haunt them sooner or later.

[@kimoota-kun]

No, it's priced way higher than what I'd be willing to pay for a GPU. It's enough to build 2 decently mid range PCs for Christ sakes. I'll just wait for the next Intel GPU line up thank you very much.

[@clintono]

Reece - I just grabbed an EcoFlow Delta 2 on sale, with a fairly decent foldable solar panel. Being based in Graaff-Reinet, I feel your pain.

[@jasonprendergast7493]

Well, I’ve been loving my 4090 for quite a while now. Path tracing in Indiana jones went even further to stretch my love. The only GPU than can handle native DLAA 4K path tracing in that game (and hit around 40FPS on average-ish). The 5090 I cannot wait for too. What a beast that is looking to be. The rest I don’t care about, I don’t think the 5080 will be better than the 4090, the VRAM alone is a massive issue.

[@dolpoof2335]

It's possible due to the fact that the 4070 super is better than the 3090 and also lacks the appropriate vram. Likely vram and bus width and maybe power draw would be the main differences

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@jasonprendergast7493 no way I'm sticking a 600W GPU in my PC, I love gaming but Jesus Christ, I'm not going down that road, I'll stick to my 4080

[@jasonprendergast7493]

@ the vram is a problem. The 4080 super half of the problems I had with that was because of the vram, when I got the 4090 all gone. Path tracing just eats up memory, and 16GB is the bare minimum for 4K gaming now. Good to know the 5090 much potentially be 32GB, as 24GB Is soon becoming nothing.

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@jasonprendergast7493 really, and how exactly were you able to measure whether or not VRAM was really your problem?

[@Queracus]

We dont need more speed. we need 24gb Vram for local AI models :)

[@svenweyers3916]

Nope... aside from the 5090, the entire 50 series is a giant upselling scam. And the low end (yes 60 tier is low end now for some reason) still only gets 8GB.

[@iklgw]

yea on warzones latest bo6 integration corners, doorways, and random dark areas are so dark you cant see a lot of operators AT ALL, even though they can see you perfectly, an nvidia filter fixes it, but unfortunately go from 300 fps to 190ish when using the filter, i just thought my brand new pc was garbage cuz i cheaped out but now i know its not my fault, thanks man

[@damianlewandowski6]

only because they relese new dls/fsr doesn't mean they will be in fevered game

[@zackw4941]

The 50 series product stack feels like the whole thing is designed to feature kreep everyone into buying a 5090.. If AMD doesn't drop the ball with the 8800XT, I think a LOT of people are going to be interested in it as an alternative to 5060, 70 and even 80.

[@hockey1973]

" If AMD doesn't drop the ball with the 8800XT"

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@zackw4941 Everyone? That's a 600W GPU, ain't no way I'm sticking that in my PC, combined this whole thing would be pulling more power than my fridge, are you kidding me? 😂 I'll watch the benchmarks when they come out and continue enjoying my 4080

[@riven4121]

@@wolfstorm5394 It likely isn't 600W. The 4090 and 3090 were leaked to be 600W and used nowhere near that amount of power when it came out. 600W is the maximum design capability of the 5090's board and cooler. Nvidia overengineer their cards and FE models.

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@riven4121 Oh that 600W GPU is definitely coming, they just weren't sure which Gen was gonna get it, the 4090 already can easily use over 400W, and this 5090 is still on the same 4nm fab process so I don't see any room for power efficiency with more cores and clocked higher too, this is going to be their Intel moment where the solution is to just raise the power limit

[@zackw4941]

@@wolfstorm5394 I am being a little tongue and cheek, when I say "Everyone." The 90 series prices are already ridiculous and only going up. I only bought my 3090FE because I found one for MSRP during the shortage and Yolo'd because my Vega 64 could barely comprehend Cyberpunk.. As it is, I'm not desperate to upgrade, I would never refuse more power.. I would like to pass down my 3090 to my little brother, which is usually the excuse I use to keep my PC fairly up to date. If the 8800XT has 7900XTX like performance with possibly useful ray tracing and a reasonable price, I might be inclined to go for it. I don't know think $2k+ for a 5090 is in the budget this year, even if I'd secretly like to own one because it's bad ass.

[@NicolasChapadosGirard]

How about a tech upgrade for Reece and friends in South Africa to get solar and battery and wiring so they can work when they want? 😮 It looked sunny from the lighting.

[@dougtemple8474]

NVidia software having a performance issue, causing problems? Say it ain't so! As an AMD enjoyer, I'll hold onto this 15% performance hit for just as long as Camp Nvidia held onto AMD Drivers being an alleged issue - which hasn't even been a thing since the 5700/5700XT launch. Which was pre 2020. The AMD driver issues are just as current as the Google Stadia launch. I'm locked into poo-pooing the Nvidia App until 2029. /s

[@jmangames5562]

🤣🤣💯💪💪💪💪💪

[@rlxw]

hi ufd , i love your videos (mainly the youtube shorts but still)

[@jozopako]

NVIDIA digging its own grave between gamers.

[@ThisIsMeArnold]

Keep telling yourself that, little guy.

[@spry_guy]

I was planning on buying a nvidia 50 series. I think it might be time to turn to team red.

[@iCottage]

Your “breakfast” show came out at 9:00 am 😂😂😂

[@panos21sonic]

Le humble timezone:

[@Rongamer104]

Too expensive for a normal person as long as Nvidia still makes video cards with price tags of 2000€ plus it will lose more and more market share. In the midrange and low end cards Nvidia has already been overtaken by the competition. 90% of the market does not want to spend these prices that is why the AMD 7900 XT and XTX were a great success. In the low end Intel is now taking over the crown.

[@TheGameBench]

While I will agree with you that Battlemage isn't going to move the needle as much as people would like to think it will, I also don't think that it's accurate to say that AMD also offered price competitive offerings with more VRAM and they didn't sell, so it's reasonable to think that would be the case with Intel as well. First, AMD hasn't been as aggressive in their pricing as Intel. Second, Intel's ray tracing performance is much better than AMD's and they have a much better video encode/decode engine. Intel is much closer to parity with NVIDIA's feature set than AMD is. But yes... it's going to take time. More time than it took for AMD to really start to eat into Intel's market share in the CPU market. However, I can see Intel eating into AMD's paltry market share pretty quick as they're using their own strat against them and AMD really needs to be more price competitive. However, NVIDIA is starting to use Intel's old strat that got them in trouble, and they're becoming complacent in the gaming space, at least with anything that doesn't end in a 90. Everything under the 90 class is really just lower tier cards being sold as higher tier cards. While it may not happen quickly, I think it will happen eventually if Intel keeps this up and NVIDIA remains complacent.

[@drewnewby]

All of this is true, but Intel doesn't have the time or capital to make this a reality. It's more than a rumor that Arc is winding down, despite TAPs blitz. Intel chose to limited production as a necessity.

[@TheGameBench]

@@drewnewby Here's the problem... everything you just said is entirely speculative.

[@drewnewby]

How's that, exactly?

[@CaptainJonathan]

In my experience. NVIDIA drivers screw up something every few versions. I've moved over to the studio drivers for a little more stability, though it's not a perfect solution.

[@JeremyMallek]

Whats the gun with the machete sticking out of the front on the shelf

[@SireScroticus]

That beautiful thing is a Gunblade from Final Fantasy 8

[@SketchStormm]

I was playing elden ring and the game literally stop for a few seconds, turning off the overlay fixed it for me

[@PhoenixAscension554]

13:28 thank you

[@_sneakycat_]

I had some wild other issue with the Nvidia app, as soon as I got to the windows login screen all 3 monitors would stop being detected until I unplugged each cable in a certain order then plugged them back in so I deleted the app and it stopped happening. Thought my gpu was dying but nope was just the app

[@duckthemightyknight364]

it's gonna reach a point where people buying the latest nvidia gpus will be using an rtx 4070 as paper weight

[@axil7146]

easy answer - NO - overpriced PoS that isn't really needed

[@jeremykoster6352]

Your content is informative, engaging, and hilarious. Thanks for being part of my day!

[@d.hulsman3553]

This is exactly why I switched to Intel, though mine hasn't arrived yet

[@Soravia]

Intel could move the market if they sell the chips on laptop motherboards as integrated.

[@Rayjacker]

They cancelled laptop chips after Alchemist because they struggled to get partners to make laptops with Arc, and those few models sold pretty poorly when compared to Nvidia or AMD options.

[@midtown3221]

I'd much rather upgrade from my RX 6800 to RX 7900 XT

[@auzziebridger]

Nvidia taking one out of Apples failed play book in claiming that somehow RAM frequency will always be better than capacity. Now even Apple admits that 8GB of RAM isn't enough. Maybe the 60 series will finally figure that out.

[@6Frxggy]

Google sitting in the corner waiting for tiktok to get banned

[@TheMallachiv]

Will I love it? Yes. Will my wallet? No, it will be dragged kicking and screaming to the register.

[@novaorbitdragon]

Tiktok getting officially banned in the US would be a god send

[@wilpr-clips]

There people with something like RTX 4090 but don’t know what RTX or NVIDIA is

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

No. I think that the power consumption of the nVidia cards has been beyond bonkers over the last three or four generations. The 1000's series was the last respectable generation, IMHO. I don't see them changing anything. PC's and gaming needs less power wastage. Less over-the-top-ness.

[@drewnewby]

I know it's no joke, Reece having to take cold showers, but we all need one after seeing the yummy, yummy deal master today.

[@86Kiaser]

Power/money=more electricity=more money drain in the long run,/LET alone the price hype, means a perm middle fingure!!!

[@radofenix]

I will be all over the 8800 if it offers 4080 performance.

[@kasomoru6]

A 2k watt psu will be common by 2026.

[@elibolton6235]

I hope they fix this issue before 50 series is released :)

[@Avitymist]

About that shorts comment, Ill look on my home and see like 7 thumbnails of your shorts right next to each other. Pretty funny lookin

[@thenoobreturnz8968]

No I'm saving up to buy a a770 or the b580 Intel is rocking RN

[@Hero1117a]

Good morning

[@YusofJalal-g7p]

How did you comment 30m before the video dropped

[@wizencoyote78]

​@YusofJalal-g7pMaybe it's because he is a member, I dunno

[@baronvonslambert]

At the price they can sell them for because CUDA is proprietary and they have a bunch of backroom deals with OEMs and other builders that limit the competitions consumer visibility? No.

[@j3ffr0ck24]

RT is the biggest scam in gpus. Tanking your performance for a few more sparkles is crazy...

[@jorvinandersen2209]

For online gaming I agree but for story games where a stabel 90 or so fps is the goal it do make a difference

[@TemplePate01]

I know AMD isn't pushing for best of the best anymore which sucks, but like on linux my AMD cards have been amazing.

[@TemplePate01]

@srobeck77 I was making a point that I don't need to? O.o

[@mohamedaliessbai6858]

8:40 Based on the name, I don't think this neural rendering will have any impact on gaming, at best, it might improve the "smart" npcs that have AI smart responses, but it will most likely be a feature useful for AI related professional work.

[@VxStreme]

Talking good about nvida.. trying to get review samples?

[@Tea_N_Crumpets]

How the hell will the 5070 have a 192 bit bus, when my 2070 from 2018 has a 256 bit bus? Where's the damn logic, Nvidia???

[@Trex28113]

Crazy stuff being made by NVIDA but they are now focusing on AI instead of gamers.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Mmm no? The ai they're making is been put into games

[@simonwatkins999]

Fridge. No the applications / services that use AI require graphics cards to work. That is where the money is. That is the market they are targeting. Gaming is small change for them, just gamers are loud.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😢

[@justuseodysee7348]

So, 5060=8GB 5070=12GB 5080=16GB?

[@Moon-xs9hv]

What's the point of being a monster GPU, if most of the consumers can't even afford it?

[@Slugbunny]

No love until I can afford it. 😤

[@rishushaw4742]

Naah! Imma stick with AMD!😁

[@kaiserc2471]

Frankly, having the 5080 be literally half of a 5090 is jank. If they wanted to do that crap, they need to re-up the titan line, and it'd be the RTX Titan IV with 32gb and a mondo pricetag they want, the 5090 with 24gb, 5080 with 16, 5070 with 12, 5060 with 10gb, and a 5050 with the GTX 970 issues where its either 8gb or 6gb (flip a coin, hence 50/50) for no other reason than the naming lolz.

[@Just_Ruben]

can you guys do deals for South Africa?

[@Just_Ruben]

@@srobeck77 bruh SA is the richest country in Africa

[@Just_Ruben]

@@srobeck77 you know hes from here

[@drewnewby]

M580 case, B580 GPU, 580 W PSU, X58 motherboard, and a Xeon W5580, what more could you ask for /s.

[@BlackSmokeDMax]

I think the most condemning thing against tiktok may be how they treat children... in the Chinese version apparently the recommendations are heavily biased towards "good" content. Meaning stuff that is not the nasty, typical social media stuff, but rather more like the best of what youtube content can be as far as learning things. I don't necessarily know if tiktok blocks Chinese children from searching for other content, but the algorithms are set in a good way. At least as compared to how non-adults in the US are being set. The whole spying thing... if you are a government employee or just someone who has some type of security clearance or works at a place that does, then it should just be a heavily enforced company policy that you can not use such an app. Otherwise, it really shouldn't be the governments business. And I say that as someone who has never had the tiktok app on any of my devices.

[@ravijotsingh7831]

For many people Nvidia is "The Nvidia".

[@longshotmagoo]

here's a question for ya. for the price of the cards these days is it worth updating from my GTX 1080ti that cost me €650 when it was new?

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@longshotmagoo Seriously? How is this even a question, that thing is nearly 8 years old now, what do you think?

[@longshotmagoo]

@wolfstorm5394 I've a 1080p monitor and the card still plays the games i want. So far only game I'm aware doesn't work is the new indiana game then that remake or of Ark kills it hard. Apart from that it's still chugs along fine lol. Prices of new cards is insane which is what's putting me off. I got laughed at for sorrento 650 euro on the 1080ti, which by today's prices was a diving bargain lol

[@wolfstorm5394]

@@longshotmagoo Bro even a 4060 offers better performance than your 1080ti and it does it at only 115W max while yours easily consumes about 250W

[@longshotmagoo]

@wolfstorm5394 irony there is of i upgrade my monitor to even 1440 then the 1080 wins because of the vram and bus speed advantage lol. Really hoping that the card loses in every area in that generation lol

[@wolfstorm5394]

@longshotmagoo There is no irony here, even at 1440p the 4060 still wins, the 1080Ti is still just fundamentally too slow to make good use of the extra VRAM by today's standards, this VRAM panick that's been going around lately is causing people to think VRAM is the end all and be all, as if VRAM alone will determine how good a GPU is, there's plenty benchmark comparison between the two GPUs here on KZbin for you to check out, the 1080Ti is a bad value GPU by today's standards unless you're buying it for dirt cheap, maybe $50 or so.

[@zbatchDOC]

Reece is such a chad

[@sm33f3r]

Big numbers, big money. My 1070 Ti still shows no slowing down but I still hope I can run games more demanding than Cyberpunk 2077 on it...if there are or will be any. So far no problems. Good luck with the 5 ga jibby jibby and I hope it does well for everyone with enough money to consider it.

[@GreenAppelPie]

Yeah im surprised most of the 50’s have 16gigs and not more. I’d was at least 24. Also, I suspect they are talking about using the CUDA cores for creating graphics. AFAIK they haven’t been yet. CUDA cores really extend the use of the cards.

[@Sini420]

i wonder what else does need this Network so it only runs on the 5xxx series.. like framegen on the 4xxx series

[@chrisbillingham9164]

I want the 5090 depending on price. I unfortunately just want to play 4K with maxed out setting and high fps. And that includes ray tracing. I will keep my 7900XTX for a bit longer still if they shit the bed.

[@Fetrovsky]

Which one is more worth it? The Beef I've 70 or the Beef I've 80?

[@DrKriegsgrave]

i guess its time to buy an Intel B580, specially if the alloted price of the cards is going to be $350+ ish, they can gtfo

[@SpaYco]

my iGPU in the laptop started glitching after few months of usuage, i don't know if I can trust intel on their dedicated GPUs. I hope i'm wrong.

[@chrisgarner5765]

Control panel is the best it does everything you need and is clean not some blotted gui!

[@hatty101]

Say the 5080 will have 2 verrsions, EXACT same spec expect one has 28 and one has 30gbps speeds, how will this effect gaming? ik no one can give exact answers, but can i get an estimate/aprox at least to have a basic understanding? ~1% gain? ~5% gain? more or less?

[@RoraighPrice]

It wasn't until AMD came up with their cuda translation layer that peaple other than gamers could actually reasonably consider anything other than Nvidia . Lots of (ehem Adobe) software still is designed to run best on high frequency single core intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs.

[@Brownwaffles]

Giving more vram ands longevity to the gpu. They want you to upgrade every 1-2 years not every 5-6 years

[@LalalLachpattay]

Bro smooth

[@LalalLachpattay]

The head😊

[@chasecook6073]

Ill buy if it if it is a reasonable price.

[@nowaywithyoueveragai]

About Nvidia app. Is it true the older the CPU is, the harder is the hit on fps?