I Tested the NEW Cinestill 400D - Is it Worth it?

[@williamcurwen7428]

Walking while photographing is the best way to make pictures. Senses are sharper, thoughts clearer, feelings deeper, dreams are better. And really lovely work, too.

[@TerriblyCinemaddict]

Haven't shot it myself yet. Haven't watched this video yet. But yes, It IS worth it. Anything to support new film stocks and those who continue to produce them!!

[@elliotw.888]

"I have not tried this product but yes it is really good"... that's not how it works?

[@autumnkeys]

@@elliotw.888 they're saying it's worth it even just to support new color film technologies, regardless of how good the film is.

[@SAGGING_GUT]

But it's not new stock. You aren't supporting anything other than their business of taking already existing products and upping the price. They are nothing but a middle-man. If you want to support the film industry, you should see if any local stores are re-spooling and developing ECN-2 process Kodak 250D (what this film is)

[@TerriblyCinemaddict]

@@autumnkeys Exactly.

[@TerriblyCinemaddict]

@@SAGGING_GUT It's new in that they are creating something readily available for people to shoot. Oh yes, that "local" shop would respools ECN-2 process Kodak 250D, that doesn't exist or cost way more. It's about making film stock more accessible to everyone, while offering something different. You can argue the semantics of "new" or "different" all you want, but you miss the bigger picture.

[@iainlaurence]

I like the color scheme of this new film stock, it has those classic halations, but a lot more subtle, which I like. Also I got my copy of ‘From the Sunny Side of the Street’ this week and I’m enjoying it a lot!

[@AbsintheMindedV2]

Just a heads up, if you like those subtle halations, Tilden has made an offshoot of their diffusion filters called GlitterGlass that is spot on at strength level 1. Not that you asked lol

[@SurrealExposure12]

@@AbsintheMindedV2 do you mean Tiffen and not Tilden? Also, pretty sure it is glimmer glass and not Glitter Glass? if you provide info, please ,make sure it is at least accurate

[@depotmsa2362]

The video person really makes your work stronger , I love the eye of the video person it’s really strong composition

[@peterwoodward3085]

Love how much beauty you find in monotony, or everyday scenes. I find it so hard to convince myself to shoot a picture on film, but you inspire me to do the opposite thank you.

[@JfhuTheJedi]

You make me rethink the way I see the environment in which I live. I've gone to San Pedro and the Korean Friendship bell on multiple occasions and have never seen it the way I just saw in your images. This is a big eye opener.

[@Fjalll]

It's most certainly another modified film of Kodak. They probably get the film delivered without the remjet now - translated into "not a repackaged motion picture film". It looks very similar to the Kodak Vision3 250D. Which can be had for $5 if you look around. Beats Portra all the way

[@trulsdirio]

I mean they might pretty much get all their film that way now. They have had their own edge markings done by Kodak for a while, so it would be strange if that would not go in hand with Kodak just omitting the remjet application as well.

[@gregbarbosa0]

Willem mentions in the video it's not Kodak Vision3 250D, and I'd have to agree. It doesn't look like 250D colors that I've seen.

[@ggill1313]

Hard disagree on it beating Portra.

[@TheBrucifer]

It’s not a Kodak film. Nor is it close to Portra.

[@NiGauBech7]

I agree, even if the look is not that similar, behaves like a 250D. Knowing that EVERY (maybe almost) Cinestill item is a rebranded product from another company, I don’t have doubts that is Kodak

[@ReimannPembroke]

Great video dude! I am soooo excited to get the two rolls I ordered and test them out when I go to Chicago

[@tyler6147]

Dude, you are walking around. With a film camera. Like it's 1978. I like it.

[@FANTAZ3RO]

I like it, picasso

[@hipcatnoob6611]

I have a fun idea: dslr or mirrorless scanning has become a very popular alternative to scanning film, so, what if you take a photo of another photo with film? Like, you scan a negative with your slr.. I mean, negative with negative=positive right? It would be interesting to see what that would look like, though its probably just a waste of money

[@yann4429]

Someone is already doing that kind of experiments, it's called Attic Darkroom

[@fliprider562]

That's pretty much what they do for motion picture film in 35mm and 65mm

[@kronkite1530]

I’m not sure if you mean duplicating a digital image (some form of light box display?) or film on film. If the latter some of us have been doing that for decades! Either to have back ups before the digital age (I used to send duplicates to the Image Libraries that I sold to:through way back when) , to increase contrast and saturation and to change tonality etc by copying, say Ektachrome onto Velvia.

[@hipcatnoob6611]

@@kronkite1530 didn't know that

[@hipcatnoob6611]

@@fliprider562 don't they scan the filme then color grade it and then trasnform it back to film?

[@erikgrow5364]

The shot at 2:29 is beautiful. Thanks for the nice video review!

[@merriammerkabah408]

Willem is definitely in his flower photography phase😂... The "portal" one is my fav out of the lot👍

[@henrahmagix]

9:59 WOW the red halation is so pronounced here! 😍

[@Windsor366]

Willem improving my monday

[@joshuabravo9521]

OH YEEAAAHHHH!!! NEW WILLEM VIDEO 😩🕺✨

[@Chazzydawg]

Willem at it again 🔥🔥🔥

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

Cinstill 400D. The "D" stand for fruity :D

[@brensurfs]

i let out an audible "oooooo!" in the middle of my lecture when i saw the shot at 3:30 sheeeesh.

[@davidellinsworth22]

I naturally assumed this was 250D with the remjet removed. The higher ISO rating would be consistent with 800T, which is 500T. It does vaguely have a look of 250D.... did you have to cancel cyan out of the shadows when scanning? Nice film regardless.

[@jay_elias__]

The complete change of mood here 😂 5:40

[@JamieKateAdoc]

You were in my neighborhood! Visit Rancho Palos Verdes next time! The Glass Chapel is beautiful and photogenic and Abalone Cove is beautiful during sunset :)

[@1994OBO]

I really can’t get over the fact that the light is always so beautiful around where you live. Can someone tell me if it’s always this way or does he show only good days 😂😂

[@csuebele]

So you ran into my old coworker Mike, in San Pedro. Did he tell you he was a photographer? I can totally see him yelling jokes at you. When we were out shooting jobs, people would ask us to take their photo. He would always reply: " Sorry, I didn't bring my ugly filter." Good that you and some young folks are shooting film still. Personally, after all these years, I love digital. Having worked in color labs processing and color correcting a variety of films, the look of the film you tried is like nails on a blackboard - I spent too much time trying to correct issues with off brand film. As you said, the look is neat, but not on everything. Keep up experimenting! That's the fun part.

[@ThaGhettoBlaster]

Look at Willem getting that fade. LA is rubbing off on him now 😂👍🏽

[@srad.]

that difference at 4:49 is crazyyy

[@thornleychan]

2 Leica-featured vids in a row, prepare yourselves, Willem is about to get a Leica and eBay is gonna get crazy by the end of the year.

[@KA6WNK]

I think I need to get couple rolls and try that one. Thanks for sharing your images and thoughts on 400D. I was surprised to see that you were shooing in my neighborhood. I walk those streets every day.

[@thedondeluxe6941]

It isn't 250D with the remjet removed, but it is 250D without remjet. They've gotten big enough to pay Kodak to deliver the film to them without applying the remjet at all. Hence the ambigous language on the website. Still 250D though :-) Which is good, cause it's a really nice film! Hopefully it will also result in better quality film with less scratches and such.

[@WillemVerb]

All that I’m allowed to say is that is incorrect ;)

[@mynewcolour]

Makes me want to try 250D *with* remjet. Not a fan of these highlights

[@thedondeluxe6941]

@@WillemVerb Now that's intriguing!🤔

[@thedondeluxe6941]

@@mynewcolour If you can deal with the remjet, it's a wonderful film. Tons of latitude and punchy colours. Kinda like a cross between Ektar and Portra. I like it a lot!

[@GregoryVeizades]

@@WillemVerb Really happy to hear that. I am still sort of upset this has halations. I think it's a misstep. Halations are a defect, and 400D is supposed to be a professional film. Its especially disappointing because CineStill says, "400D is specifically designed for still photography." Still photography film has antihalation layers built in that clear in bleach. To be clear, I love 50D and 800T, but Halations are not something I always want.

[@RodUSMC75]

Rocking the Sling Blade haircut 👍 get ya some French fried potaters

[@elderinmoi1571]

I mean your editing is first class so it hard to tell for me if this film is so special. The results are amazing I think anyhow. So it should not be a bad choice.

[@WillemVerb]

I barely did any editing! Just slight contrast adjustments.

[@TylerOnMute]

1:12 "That's crazy." - Willem seeing an airplane for the first time.

[@edwardcrockett]

Yoooo every pic was amazing but that freakin flash photo in the car was nutssss🤯

[@fujicinema]

I still haven't tried Cinestill, but I love the colors and halation! Definitely going to buy some soon!

[@zverinafilip]

Duude 11:26 whaat?!! That's pure perfection, love it

[@slothsarecool]

I’m a big fan of 50D, can’t wait to try this one

[@chiefdispatcher]

I don't know what time you wake up in the morning, but if you get up early and go to take pictures on this film, you will see that the morning light will change its color palette.

[@natashanicole7408]

Good tip

[@marcelschwinn1996]

Id on the shoulderbag please. Really nice one!

[@erichung9043]

I 've shot with 50D before. Hate that halation with daylight film. Tungsten film looks okay with it. For the price, I 'd rather shoot with Vision 3 or Silbersalz 250D.

[@twuuwttwu]

the big downside of theses stocks is the ecn2 process .

[@sbarronmd]

@@twuuwttwu use c41 if you like. i prefer it on the movie film.

[@kevlarnegative]

Spanking job! I'm so glad I've backed this project and can't wait to receive the rolls.

[@soccerjockey]

Love these! Can’t wait to get my rolls

[@KentTeffeteller]

Since I am an adaptive photographer, I do photo rolls in my wheelchair. And yes, my Canon L1 goes along for the ride. And it's Canon (Leica Screw Mount) 50 mm/f2.8 lens.

[@BushcraftOst]

Great Photos bro 😎🤌

[@mrkyn]

Perfect as always!

[@sushi_donut]

Aww...friendship at the Korean friendship bell. 🤗🔔📸

[@ToyStoryNBarneyFan]

I recently purchased a roll of Amber 400D which I assume is the same thing as Cinestill 400D. If it is, then I’m definitely looking forward to shooting it

[@finlaydexter984]

this looks like gold with halations.

[@jonkk]

Such a pretty film stock! Huge of of this, thanks Willem!

[@Bussmicke2305]

Interesting as usual. At 4:49, they have painted the house.. 😁

[@nickonerd07971]

Such an amazing film! Thanks for the video!

[@RobbieMaynardCreates]

Tobacco is a perfect word to describe the colors. I think they should put that on the box.

[@captain-kompass]

Good that I've backed this stuff

[@marshalltravis3217]

I just got a roll of this film, and I want to get some background on it before I shoot it.

[@patrickjclarke]

Hmm, what if this is Ultramax 400 on a vision 3 base? Looking forward to getting mine and trying it out!

[@JustinPhillip]

Who does your developing? My cinestill 400D comes out very crunchy

[@Matthewsss]

San Pedro!!! Love photographing that area!

[@kathreenmirate389]

Always nice watching your videos.

[@kjak94]

Color palette almost reminds me of the old school Eastmancolor motion picture stock. Might have to try this out.

[@layceecompston2174]

Where is your camera bag / bag from

[@Iliya_sh72]

Exposure is bang on. Did you eyeball it or does the MP have a built in meter?

[@MLUdrea]

MP has a built in meter.

[@JulianWildner]

@@MLUdrea ain’t true

[@slothsarecool]

@@JulianWildner MP has a meter, M-A is the model which doesn’t

[@hollywoodheiner6028]

@@slothsarecool M4-P neither

[@JulianWildner]

@@hollywoodheiner6028 this

[@Orkel2]

What do you use to digitize your film? A film scanner of some sorts?

[@mattschias1178]

He sends his rolls to a lab that scans them with a noritsu scanner

[@lachlanchester8142]

You must be new in these parts, welcome

[@LudensFramed]

Fresh haircut bro, fresh as your pics 🧊

[@TheWakaMinecraft]

Great video as always!

[@radicaleyemag]

sharp cut 🤝 sharp pics 🔥

[@laugary8186]

I love 250D,500T….Kodak vision 3

[@Nexsys787]

San Pedro my home town I miss it I been meaning to go back and take shots too

[@MLUdrea]

What happened to the Bessa?

[@Carnivoredj]

What lens did you use on the MP?

[@landoncaldwell8196]

Willem, man, the Leica suits you well!!!! I think it’s time you swoop one for yourself!

[@SHDEdits]

Yay Vision3 250D with dodger colors

[@benjhaisch]

Wow, I’m shocked how warm this is

[@hanphan2633]

I’m just here for Hector

[@gavinneedham2013]

I’ve been on 2/4 of the ships of the same class as the one you got a photo of.

[@RyanPatrick85]

Damn,,, can't believe you were in my neighborhood and I didn't know! San Pedro has some crazy good views, right!? Hope to run into you some day.

[@timmallette1888]

Why didn't you take a portrait of that dude!!

[@chrisanalog1764]

Very Nice video will ! this film is sooo cool 👌 good job 👍

[@smeraldo1297]

How do you set the aperture? Around f4.5-5.6?

[@owenbrown2916]

will you test the medium format version of this film stock when it comes out?

[@Bonsees]

Can't wait to get mine! Looks like a fun summer film. Love the vid and the photos, as usual~ it's funny seeing peacocks just roaming around freely in the neighbourhood 😂

[@19sixx83]

Fresh Leica + fresh cut

[@nollieheel214aim]

That halation is nuts. Reminds me for sure of shooting Kodak 250d for sure!

[@christophedevos3760]

Wow, lovely. How could I have missed the release of it? Is it already in Europe as well?

[@tyleralexander9210]

Thanks for the detailed review and cool frames! On a totally unrelated question, where did you get your sweet bag/satchel from??

[@Bertzcommodities]

When are bags restocking !!? I ordered mine ages ago not knowing they’re on back order ); I also got a strap that I’m dying to throw on my camera

[@thefilmdaddy]

I kept wondering if you had Jake’s Leica! So awesome to see him in this 👏

[@Jvega001]

When are they dropping more of this film I need it 😩

[@rolandzzj6107]

I think is obiviously 250D with remjet pre-removed(or never applied) by kodak. Using c41 process will not get the most out of these motion picture film since c41 is using cd-4 instead of the cd-3 in ecn2 chemical, thus giving colors different to the original 250D. It will also screw up the balance in c41 chemical and affect the color of other films processed in later batches(according to the tests done by one of my local lab). People should push labs around the world to do ecn-2 process so that we can shoot cheap kodak vision3 motion picture films. I've shot loads of 250D in the past 6 months and was extremely happy with the result, basically a portra pro version with more strict requirement of light control.

[@GregoryVeizades]

Ok. I'll bite. I don't believe that processing this film will screw up chemicals. I work at a lab and when this starts showing up in masse, I'll run many control strips to see if there is any visible difference. I doubt we'll see it. Especially with proper replenishment you are replacing a large amount of developer in short order. 40ml/roll if memory serves and my machine runs 7x35mm per rack. We already process a lot of 50D and 800T. Especially last month with the Color film shortage. There was a time a good 40% of our developed film was 50D or 800T and we didn't see any densitometry shifts on our control strips. Nothing outside the margin of error, or something that couldn't be explained by another process issue, which we are constantly fine tuning.

[@rolandzzj6107]

@@GregoryVeizades With proper relenishment and constant check of control strips sure it will not be a huge enough difference to be visible to customer side, but realistically not all labs are doing those. My point is that processing these motion picture fims in c41 will always be less ideal than ecn2. Unless someone is using those as art fims.

[@Whateverworksman93]

I was hoping you'd make your way to the Friendship Bell at some point since you moved out! The new stock looks like a trip, the colors pop in a really interesting way.

[@elevenseven5133]

WoW, thank you. I’ve never shoot this film before. I’m just curious, what lens did you use in this video?

[@clara-eh6tp]

do you always take more images from the exact same angel/of the same exact object?

[@gevers1]

Another cracking video, Willem. Do you ever get hassle from people wondering why you're taking pictures of their houses?

[@marquisdelaz]

Good question. Wondered the same.

[@bakir3120]

he's white.. of course not

[@3boys28]

@@bakir3120 hahahaha

[@bringo4392]

@@bakir3120 Exactly.. he's walking around with 3 other white dudes and they don't look like a threat. So he can get away with literally FILMING and taking pictures of peoples homes. This style of photography is so fuckin over-hyped and so overdone its crazy lol. This is the shit that gets the likes and comments though... and don't get wrong I don't mind this style of photography every once and a while, but some people have made this their entire photography catalog. I just don't understand the appeal of taking pictures of peoples homes lol. And what's crazy is these same photographers label us street photographers as weird. Anyhow it does infuriate me when I see these white dudes posting these videos of them in random neighborhoods walking around taking pictures and it hurts knowing I can't do that as a black man but he can do this and nobody bats an eye lol. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a neighborhood I've wanted to photograph or seen a nice quiet scene some place while driving but because of my skin color I don't have the luxury of being able to just get out and walk around. I might get the cops called on me and of course we all know how that could end. But anyways that's america for ya.

[@AuntNySkate]

@@bringo4392 heard u

[@bigmike3189]

I love the look of it

[@freecactushugs]

willem, what’s that jacket you’re rocking?

[@caesarmendoza2317]

Man Connecticut looks so beautiful in this video

[@Mindartcreativity]

Definitely looks like Kodak Vision3 250D. Less green tint than Cinestill 50D IMO.

[@luc17375]

It reminds me a lot of the vision3 250D processed in c41 and a roll of eterna 250D I've shot on 16mm. That hearthy look not too easy to correct on a digital process, that still could be appealing to a lot of people and could suit a lot different lighting condition. It's all personal. I would be curious to shoot it at night

[@7ThrillFishing]

Awesome video! But what’s even more awesome is the CRV having the spare cover! Hahaha hard to find

[@zachmedina2509]

This video is gonna be a BANGER I can already tell! Picked up the Santa Fe shoulder bag and I am STOKED, sadly won't be in before my trip to SF but still just as excited

[@michaeljhoffman-statepolic561]

Several of theses images remind me of the work of Henry Wessel. The image tones remind me of Kodachrome II.

[@themoolag]

Is this at San Pedro? I hate that I missed the campaign and only found out about 400D after it was done

[@AbsintheMindedV2]

Reminds me of somewhere between Gold 200 and Ultramax 400