William Lane Craig explains why he is not a Catholic

Bishop Robert Barron and William Lane Craig discuss evangelism, faith and science, secularism, and more. Moderated by Professor Stephen Davis and Professor Edward Feser. Venue: The Claremont Center for Reason, Religion, and Public Affairs.
William Lane Craig is Research Professor of Philosophy at Talbot School of Theology and Professor of Philosophy at Houston Baptist University. He and his wife Jan have two grown children. At the age of sixteen as a junior in high school, he first heard the message of the Christian gospel and yielded his life to Christ. Dr. Craig pursued his undergraduate studies at Wheaton College (B.A. 1971) and graduate studies at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (M.A. 1974; M.A. 1975), the University of Birmingham (England) (Ph.D. 1977), and the University of Munich (Germany) (D.Theol. 1984). From 1980-86 he taught Philosophy of Religion at Trinity, during which time he and Jan started their family. In 1987 they moved to Brussels, Belgium, where Dr. Craig pursued research at the University of Louvain until assuming his position at Talbot in 1994. He has authored or edited over thirty books, including The Kalam Cosmological Argument; Assessing the New Testament Evidence for the Historicity of the Resurrection of Jesus; Divine Foreknowledge and Human Freedom; Theism, Atheism and Big Bang Cosmology; and God, Time and Eternity, as well as over a hundred articles in professional journals of philosophy and theology, including The Journal of Philosophy, New Testament Studies, Journal for the Study of the New Testament, American Philosophical Quarterly, Philosophical Studies, Philosophy, and British Journal for Philosophy of Science. In 2016 Dr. Craig was named by The Best Schools as one of the fifty most influential living philosophers.
Bishop Robert Barron is an acclaimed author, speaker, and theologian. He is also the founder of the global media ministry Word on Fire, which reaches millions of people by utilizing the tools of new media to draw people into or back to the Catholic Faith. Francis Cardinal George has described him as “one of the Church's best messengers." Bishop Barron received a Master's Degree in Philosophy from the Catholic University of America in 1982 and a doctorate in Sacred Theology from the Institut Catholique de Paris in 1992. He was ordained a priest in 1986 in the Archdiocese of Chicago, and then appointed to the theological faculty of Mundelein Seminary in 1992. He has also served as a visiting professor at the University of Notre Dame and at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas. He was twice scholar in residence at the Pontifical North American College at the Vatican. He served as the Rector/President of Mundelein Seminary University of St. Mary of the Lake from 2012 until 2015. On July 21, 2015, Pope Francis appointed Bishop Barron to be Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. He was ordained bishop on September 8, 2015.

[@jack_skeean]

As a Catholic, William Lane Craig is such a gift to the Christian faith. I'm so happy whenever I see lively dialogues like this.

[@ulti8106]

Same i do look ip to him as a catholic he has so many good teachings to bad i don't think this priest doesn't have enough theological or historical knowledge and from what i seen he doesn't seem to be on with all catholic teachings even church militant channel had something that said about him that wasn't catholic

[@FOY43]

Ahin Johny He said that he was a Protestant in the video.

[@omarhab3689]

As a Muslim, William lane craig is such a gift to abrahamic religions

[@Kitiwake]

He condemns the one true faith.

[@SperoinDeo]

@Diego Alvarez What makes Church Militant and the sspx Protestant?

[@christopherquigley5468]

I really like both these guys. I am an evangelical and I recently started listen to Bishop Barron. His insights are really great.

[@elspethsilverstar6136]

Come visit our church sometime. God bless.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look up to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@peregrino1655]

Barron an Lane are wonderful.

[@sjappiyah4071]

Same !

[@chrisobrien6254]

Great! Are you planning on become Catholic?😃

[@happyinlift4881]

it's great to see that Protestants and Catholics can be civil to each other! One of the main reasons why people turn their backs on Jesus Christ, because they look at the followers of Christ and say we don't want to be as hateful as those people! Christ's command is to love each other, not viciously mock each other. I once saw a bumper sticker , which said: "Jesus Save Us from Your Followers"! Whether you are Evangelical or Catholic discuss your differences in humility, and remember there is only one Lord and that is Jesus Christ!

[@TimeBomb014X]

Agreed. I won't lie and say I'm well versed in scripture but from what i remember being thought at school and Church is that Jesus told us to love each other and to forgive. The people who use religion to act like assholes give it a bad rep

[@benbelshovich5979]

@@TimeBomb014X where can u find n the Bible that f u forgive everyone then u r save

[@0thereaper0]

i don't think it to be great. i'm sure actually that is the duty of every single Christian to be civil to one another. It's written in the Bible that we should merely say we are Christians and not that we are from specific Churches.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look up to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@AOitsAO]

0thereaper0 Exactly.

[@rocio8851]

One thing is very clear: William Lane Craig is not a ”political corectness” man. Thank God we have such people like him.

[@Prisoner]

He did not say anything close to something offensive

[@lucdubras]

What is a "political correctness" man?

[@eatgrass123]

Luc du Bras It's a liberal snowflake who needs Play-Doh and therapy dogs because Trump smashed their candidate in the election.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look up to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@jesussotelo4775]

He is the definition of being politically incorrect while remaining polite.

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

Mere Christianity - let's focus on the strengths...I love it.

[@CatholicaTV]

I was raised Protestant and now at 25 years old after studying the issues William Lane Craig mentioned (plus more) I’m now Catholic!

[@edalbanese6310]

Makes no sense

[@chatochafa130]

Interesting to know a Protestant turned you, once Protestant, into a Catholic. I love the Catholic faith for its testimonies and order. It lacks no love or worship for Jesus if done the right way. It preaches the right way to Jesus. So much Holy Spirit in it. Not that I’ve been to other Churches but Catholicism will always be my way.

[@AnnaBlessed777]

this will always blow my mind ! how can anyone study the bible and not get to the conclusion that Catholicism is 100% heretical? they worship MARY ! They literally PRAY to Mary ! They say Jesus's power come from her !!! TOTAL BLASPHEMY

[@juliusrendon5936]

​@@AnnaBlessed777no one said that Jesus power came from Mary, bro stop listening to your pastors that hate Rc and preach hate. Learn it Veneration is different than Worshiping search the meaning of it.

[@t.d6379]

​@annanejjar7143 you poor thing. So confused with so much misinformation. What is really sad is that you can literally read all of the early church fathers writings, many of whom were alive before the bible was even canonised by the Catholic Church (no need to thank us I can see you're full of rage) and you can see how these 1st and 2nd century Church fathers lived and what they believed. And it's very clear to see that their beliefs are the same beliefs the Catholic Church teaches today. I will pray for you! Drop the hate and the anger and do some real research with an open mind.

[@Peter-kl8jg]

I'm a Catholic, I like both of these guys. Mark 9:40 Anyone is not against us is for us.

[@bucsfan2565]

Yes, Peter thanks for sharing the verse. Sectarianism is a sin.

[@joshportie]

You cannot be a friend of the world and a friend of Jesus.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look up to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@bigol7169]

Tribalism at its finest you guys

[@robertjustice3814]

I’m a Protestant pastor, and have listened to WLC for years. I’ve recently discovered Bishop Barron and very excited to begin reading his Word on Fire Bible soon. Let’s stick to Christ first and foremost!

[@vivitadsouza463]

👌🏻

[@Stopitpls]

I won’t lie, I was not at all sympathetic to Catholics after the scandals, but Bishop Barron has really brought me back under the fold of general Christianity, and for that I couldn’t be more thankful

[@crossbearer6453]

Using your logic , I should leave and not like Protestants once someone does something wrong that also goes against their doctrine

[@no_prisoners6474]

Are scandals exclusive to the catholic church?

[@Tugboatpb]

​@@no_prisoners6474 scandals are a result of human failure. Not religious teaching

[@angru_arches]

​@@no_prisoners6474No, but the bigger the star the bigger the fall... Catholics make up the largest unified church denomination...nobody cares that much about a Baptist scandal coz Baptism doesn't command equal institutional force, coz Protestantism does not exist under one human head...so we all have scandals but Catholicism is an easier target for sensationalism coz of it's shear size

[@angru_arches]

​@@crossbearer6453Protestants are not subject to one institution and human headship like the Catholics...so if one Protestant movement has a scandal my church is not affected....on the other hand for Catholics, if the Pope gets something wrong, which he can and has, he damns 1 billion people....the entire institution becomes compromised, because according to Catholicism, pope is the final word for them.

[@Norrin20]

I've been following William Craig for quite some time now. As a Catholic, I am thrilled to state that I've not heard anything he's said that I have disagreed with. He's articulate, well-researched, unwavering in his beliefs, consistent, and delivers information with such ferocity that any Christian should be proud that we have him on our side. Please keep doing what you're doing, Professor Craig, and as you continue teaching and defending the faith, I'll keep listening, appreciating and promoting your videos whenever and wherever I can.

[@Kitiwake]

He denies belief in the immaculate conception and assumption. Two dogmas Catholics are obliged to believe in.

[@GoalkeeperzTM]

@@Kitiwake That's personal beliefs, that's not what he usually debates or talks about. He focuses on, like he said; Mere Christianity.

[@Kitiwake]

@@GoalkeeperzTM what's personal belief? Dogma isn't personal belief. Dogma is required acceptance by all Catholics.

[@car6697]

@@Kitiwake yes but Immaculate Conception (although a beautiful belief) in the Catholic Dogma is ONLY tradition and required acceptance in the Catholic Church, but it's NOT Biblical TRUTH. In God's Word, Mary was of course Blessed and was looked on with Grace by God, but she was NOT sinless (Romans 3:23), Jesus Christ was the ONLY perfect, sinless human being that walked on this Earth (2 Corinthians 5:21). Mary herself also admitted in The Holy Scriptures that she needed God as her Savior (Luke 1:46-47) like everybody else, and if she was sinless or perfect, then she wouldn't need God to save her. and Mary wasn't a virgin *all* her life, only until she gave birth to Jesus and perhaps a little while longer. There's verses in The Holy Bible when Jesus started his ministry that clearly indicate that she and Joseph had more children together afterwards, brothers/half-brothers and sisters/half-sisters to Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:55-56).

[@chrisobrien6254]

You’re a Catholic and you Haven’t heard anything he said that you disagree with? Have you watched this video? 😬

[@84rebz]

Nothing wrong with that. I was raised an Arminian(Baptist/Methodist) but joined the Catholic Church almost 10 years ago. But I am a mere Christian in the CS Lewis sense and I love Dr. Craig. He is a Brother in Christ to me.

[@macroevolve]

4:21 - I thought a dog was running across the stage

[@oreo507]

YO I HAD THAT EXACT THOUGHT

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@WaserBeh]

Bruhhh same , u funny bro

[@Alf20783]

Everyone in the comments section talking about how great it is to have a civil discussion among 2 different sides and this guy is like, "I thought that was a dog" 🤣🤣🤣✌️👌

[@CJ-sw8lc]

Same!!!

[@walternusbaum2610]

Two very respectable thinkers without question. Bishop Barron's question was very fair and should be expected. That said, Dr. Craig's response was very fair (albeit restrained) and there should be no problem with that either. The "Mere Christianity" approach is what will be needed at this juncture of history in order to harness the intellectual and spiritual forces of fellow believers to turn the tide of our culture (if that is even possible any longer.) The bottom line is that the entire debate between Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox comes down to the question of "authority" and where it ultimately rests? The Orthodox and Protestant traditions reject the preeminence of Rome and find no support for it in Scripture or in history. Catholics disagree and strive to find it in Peter's priority as an apostle and in the growing authority of Rome in the early centuries of the Church. Regardless, it is Christ and Christ alone that binds us all together as fellow believers on this journey of life.

[@parraphrase]

walter nusbaum well said

[@siggymartin]

Read the Church Fathers. Easily found.

[@aljhunvillanel1200]

Read the writings of St. Irenaeus of Lyons against heresies 3:3:2. Lineage Jesus -> St. John -> St. Polycarp -> St. Irenaeus

[@williamchase5698]

@ Walter nusbaum well said. It comes down to who you put your faith in....men in Rome our God and his word

[@HazerGore1185]

Beautifully written. As an evangelical married to a Catholic I wish more Christians shared your sentiment; but more often than not I feel like I’m caught in the middle of a war zone. God bless you for your comment.

[@TheWesternArmenia]

Peter Kreeft is the Catholic version of William Craig, I highly respect and love these two gifted people!

[@PeterLaman]

I love the honesty and mutual respect in this conversation!

[@adammeade2300]

I’m a Protestant, but Barron is my favorite Catholic and is one of the primary reasons I can’t paint them all with a broad brush.

[@DougWarner25]

Adam Meade that would be an ignorant thing if you did.

[@elspethsilverstar6136]

Come visit our church sometime. God bless.

[@martinm2871]

I am Catholic and I agree

[@pastorsmellgood2473]

Likewise, I really like and respect Barron

[@markmeade8502]

Try listening to Fulton Sheen

[@PraetorDrew]

I figured I would see this in the comments. Craig responds to the question "why aren't you a Catholic" in the nicest possible way and he still gets attacked for it. If I were Craig, I would have added that the biggest threat to Catholicism isn't Protestantism, not by a long shot. The biggest threat is Cultural Marxism.

[@thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016]

+Drew M - I find it telling that Marxism, whose core principle is that the employees (citizenry) own the means of production and benefit from that production, is threatening to Christianity, whereas Capitalism, which is a system of one or a very few owning and deriving nearly all the benefits of production, with no qualms about exploiting the resources (e.g. environmental, human labor, etc.) needed to derive this wealth, is embraced by modern Christians.

[@cl9826]

Cultural marxism was a tactic employed by the CIA during the cold war to divide leftists in their support for the soviet union. There is no such thing as cultural marxism today, and actual marxism is one of the most eye opening tools you could use for viewing the world and understanding why it is the way it is. It's no wonder it is slandered so heavily.

[@thecarlitosshow7687]

And postmodernism!

[@elating96]

All being a result of the Protestant Deformation...

[@Valthegal04]

@@elating96 not really, result of atheism if anything, Marx Darwin and Neitche have done extreme damage

[@connorpatricknolanmusic1453]

Ya see, instead of arguing and accusing one another, people can have nice conversations about the Lord and our faith.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@crominion6045]

Man! WLC and Bishop Barron. How have I not seen this before? Thanks!

[@JaceyMitchell]

I'm a Catholic, and whenever I see a William Lane Craig video immediately I click it. The fact that he focuses on mere Christianity is excellent. In a society that is increasingly secularized, it is important for Christians to look at what they have in common. And the truth is that that is the overwhelming majority of our faith! To quote Peter Kreeft: "When there is a maniac at the door, feuding brothers reconcile" Love to all my Christian brothers and sisters, whether you're Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Protestant, or Catholic. ✝️☦️

[@olivehealth7863]

After watching this excerpt from the entire conversation between Bishop Barron and Professor Craig, I decided to watch the whole conversation and was so encouraged that Catholics and Protestants can have a friendly civil conversation. But after WLC explains why he could not be a Catholic, he asked Bishop Barron a question that I've always pondered upon since I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and started going to a Protestant church in 1996. " What are Catholics doing in this area in training their people ?" Bishop Barron answers; " Not enough". I'm so glad that after my salvation experience in 1996 and my testimony since then after 28 years, I started reading the Bible and started asking questions about how scriptures affect my day to day living. I just want to encourage all Christians, read your Bible and ask questions. John 8:32 " And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. "

[@Tanjaicholan]

WLG’s “BUT” resounded and reverberated throughout the hall! That was enough!

[@theRealBryan]

I've been following these 2 men for a while. Both of them are true doctrinal Christians.

[@Patcannistan]

WLC is a ‘neo-apollinarian’ in his own words.

[@red.4712]

@@Patcannistanbut doesn't he disconnect it with the original apollinarian view quite clearly? there's a bit more nuance than you're giving here.

[@catholictruth102]

No. No one who rejects the immaculate conception is a “true doctrinal Christian.”

[@anthonyshannon4562]

You use the word Christian loosely.

[@shaneglass3576]

@@catholictruth102Mary’s immaculate conception is what he does not believe in, not Christ’s. Are you serious?

[@sm2z24]

I am Protestant and i love dr.craig.

[@Reel___]

become an atheist.

[@WhoTalksToTheTrees]

@@Reel___ no

[@TyranBatten]

@@WhoTalksToTheTrees lol

[@Jay33_]

@@Reel___😂😂😂😂😂 Nice Joke😂😂😂😂😂

[@Pretty_Fly_White_Guy]

Become a Catholic

[@lifewasgiventous1614]

I genuienly love both of these men, as a protestant baptist myself I find the kindness amongst them to be a breath of fresh air.

[@russbrewer2273]

As long as we all believe and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, we are together!

[@Max-yb1mx]

It's sad though that you don't get that message from Catholicism.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

@@Max-yb1mx well is not that we don't agree we just know their is more to it than just accepting Jesus christ thats all

[@sohayameen2452]

Yeah brother

[@marcokite]

kind of but to be a follower of Christ we have to belong to the Church He founded; the Catholic Church

[@Vezmus1337]

I believe Dr. William Lane Craig should receive at the very least some kind of honorary title of sainthood, for his prominent role in saving so many souls by bringing them back into the church and defending the Christian faith against the New Atheism movement.

[@stevenhunter3345]

This was a respectful but fully honest answer to the Bishop's question. What I would love to see, however, is a discussion between Craig and Scott Hahn, who is a brilliant Biblical scholar and former evangelical. Not a debate, mind you, but a discussion. I think Hahn could show that many of Craig's feelings about the Church and her teachings are based on misapprehension.

[@InExcelsisDeo24]

I can’t understand how you can believe in Christ, his crucifixion and resurrection, the salvation of our sins, incredible miracles, yet can’t believe in Mary’s ascension or the immaculate conception.

[@Thehappybirder]

It’s interesting that you referred to the Catholic Church in the feminine

[@shaneglass3576]

@@InExcelsisDeo24show me Mary’s ascension in the scriptures with proper historical evidence from contemporaries. You can’t. You don’t understand how we can believe about the death and resurrection which has plenty of evidence in the FIRST century but not about Mary’s assumption which is essentially mentioned nowhere but past the third century in apocryphal works? You’re being disingenuous or you don’t know the dubious scholarship behind her assumption.

[@Nooby-u7q]

So the church does not teach that Mary was immaculately conceived?

[@Nooby-u7q]

@@InExcelsisDeo24Because the former are biblical and the latter are not.

[@TuringMachine001]

WLC: I'm Protestant. Comment section: I protest!

[@randomperson-gp8ph]

I have read many comments and so far all i have seen is I am catholic and i like william craig. Maybe I might find one of those comments if I keep looking. Maybe you havent read the comments.

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

Im a catholic i really like Craig he is one of the protestants that i look up to and say he knows his stuff. this explains everything of typology of the bible kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well what country will be destroyed this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more the coming war and such

[@m.t1960]

Such a great conversation,Catholic or Protestants we all believe in the Lord heavenly Father,Jesus our savior,and Holy Spirit,that it's really important FATHER,SON, HOLY SPIRIT

[@checkmyplaylistmiramiplayl2906]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZXHaoCcjcurhJI recommend everyone one this video catholic faith is still the true faith we just have to fight for everything to remain the way it is like St. Nicolas who fought heresy also we know the false prophet is the pope as well this next video starts around 7 or 8 min kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LVYXqidtirq6M you must watch all the teachings of the video he shows to understand more

[@Jay33_]

It would be even better to follow the church Jesus started.

[@strigoi5890]

Love both these gents. I think it is worth pointing out that no one is saved by their theology. We are saved by God’s grace through the sacrifice of God the son. Hence a child can be saved and a theologian can be saved by the same grace

[@joelrivardguitar]

That is Greek Hellenistic theology. The NT is a Jewish version of it.

[@deathchronicles6960]

@strigoi5890 even satan dont get mix thought about jesus authority and jesus himself when he use these utmost strategy to tempt him " If your son of GOD" to let jesus act by his power and use his authority out of God's will. Satan knows what to use to tempt every soul

[@AndersHolmenScott]

Great discussion. I'm a fan of both apologists, and love both of their personal approaches to evangelism as well.

[@sksman71]

Well at least it was a civil discussion and very respectful.Much respect for both speakers

[@ahmedharris7148]

I'm Muslim but really like William Lane Craig. I was atheist for awhile and I recall watching Craig dismantling many of the arguments of the new atheists which is partly what shifted me back to theism again.

[@lewisbeeman]

Ahmed Harris well you kind of missed WLC’s points if it what he said pointed you to Islam. Christ was real and he was the son of God. He died for our sins. Mine and yours.

[@scabw]

If you‘re willing to look into the criticism of Islam, check out Acts17Apologetics here on KZbin. It’s a ministry I personally give monetary support to. But be careful, the criticism can be harsh at times.

[@ahmedharris7148]

lewisbeeman I respectfully disagree.

[@TangomanX2008]

Hi Ahmed, interesting to see a Muslim comment on a video about dr. Craig. Did you know that one of his most effective arguments, which he refers to the Kalam Cosmological argument, was borrowed from Al Kindi?

[@marcosvinicius-iq4lp]

Regardless of theological differences, may God bless you and help you walk a good path. I am glad you abandoned atheism, belief in God is a good and important thing, especially nowadays. Please, though, support the case for a Islamic reform. If your religion has a good message (which it probably has) it is not being well understood. I am a christian, and it would be a joy if you came to Christ, but if you choose not to, at least fight for the right cause. Many muslims do a lot of evil nowadays, many others prefer not think about it and many others understand these realities and fight for reform. Please join the last group. Again may God be with you.

[@francismazanet2769]

I am Catholic. May the Holy Spirit guide our ways in Jesus' Name.

[@MarvelGamer2023]

I watched this video a long time ago when I was a Protestant. I'm a Catholic now.

[@FavianShields]

It happens 😄

[@baldwinthefourth4098]

God bless you.

[@princekazhila2003]

protestants and still love me some Bishop Baron

[@gateway6827]

"To be steeped in history is to cease to be Protestant" - John Henry Newman after trying to prove the Church wrong.

[@marcokite]

exactly!

[@Jonathan-si2nd]

Proper Protestants are reformed Catholics. Hence one shouldn't be surprised at similarities not touching clear lines of disagreement.

[@andreso9595]

I love how he was clear as to why he’s Protestant but so gracious and humble to bring it back to Christian unity.

[@saintanthonyofpadua290]

Craig is still a W but I hope God leads him to his Church

[@danielcollins7960]

I do enjoy WLC... but I scrolled past the thumbnail thinking it was an episode of between two ferns 😂

[@todd92371]

It's so simple. "Love God with all your heart, body, soul , and mind..... And love your brother and sister."

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

It just struck me that William Lane Craig looks a lot like Donald Fagen, the singer from Steely Dan.

[@philochristos]

Some people think he looks like David Lee Roth.

[@1lebero]

True.

[@yonslash457]

Sweet Jesus... It's heart throbbing to see two of this Christians together...

[@SouthernFriedPap1st]

William Lane Craig is a guy I don't agree with on very many theological issues, but he is very smart and charitable. He's a great asset to have on Christian apologetics.

[@1godonlyone119]

I love both of these guys. What an interesting subject of discussion!

[@anthonyshannon4562]

Salvation is not about the right religion. It’s about a relationship with my Savior. What He did for me on the cross and as an attitude of gratitude to trust and rely on Him. Jesus Himself said, “no one comes to the Father except through Me”. Believe Him friends 🙂

[@janetholmes]

Amen!

[@osvaldorayasmarquez3977]

Jesus started one true Church, and that Church is the Holy Catholic Church, this is public information you can look up if you don’t believe me. Protestants have been around for no more than 505 years, how can Protestants come from the time of Jesus? Although the Catholic Church does teach that people outside of the Catholic Church can be saved, you find the fullness of Christ and the true and entire practice of what Christ intended his Church to practice (7 Sacraments and much more). I pray you let God guide you to the truth. Amen

[@creativecatproductions]

he says he believes in the incarnation and ressurection, which is nice, but he can’t be Catholic because he doesn’t believe other Catholic doctrines like the immaculate conception….. but with all due respect, he wouldn’t be able to believe in either the incarnation or the ressurection if it weren’t for the catholic church and apostolic, sacramental Christianity which taught those doctrines in the first place He’s just a liberal cafeteria catholic that doesn’t want to have to go to Mass. this argument sucks

[@jarroddavid8352]

“With all due respect” followed by “he’s just a liberal cafeteria catholic” 🤣🤣🤣 Yikes. Do Catholics ever appeal to the Word of God to support their arguments or just appeal to the authority of tradition? Do you see the problem us Protestants are having? Make your case using the Word of God and you’ll win a Protestant over every time.

[@noxplay4906]

@@jarroddavid8352 The reason why Protestantism has faced the brunt of progressivism in the modern age is exactly because you guys are overly disconnected from tradition. Not saying you can't be a Protestant but that is quite literally your natural weakness, and it's why so many subversive elements have infiltrated your churches. Sola scriptura doesn't count for much if you follow it so dogmatically that it allows all of these other kookies to just say they interpret scripture a different way and boom, there's not much to combat that

[@capecodder04]

I have never heard of this guy before and was watching an interview between Trent Horn and Cameron Bertuzzi who just converted to the Catholic faith and in the interview he mentioned this guy William Lane Craig and raved about how intelligent he was and my first thought was if he is so smart why is he not Catholic. So I went to look him up and see if I could find an interview with him and I found this video right away which and an answer to my question.

[@xrendezv0usx]

I am not a catholic because I could never treat a man like the pope as equal to God, nor treat the words of men as equal to the Word of God in its divine authority and perfect infallibility. As the pope and his church continue to fall into false doctrines and support the blessing of homosexual couples, I am comforted to know that I have set Jesus Christ above all, and His Holy Word above the councils of men. God's Word is the same yesterday today and forever! The pope will let you down and councils of men will let you down. But Jesus Christ will never let you down. He will never leave you nor forsake you! Praise God! I thank God for His eternal Word!

[@raymondvasquez6967]

What nonsense is this? Where are you getting this crap from?

[@jesureeaton4878]

Oh my gosh. I love this! It’s like two little future saints talking to one another as brothers even tho they may believe different things. Agh. I love them both.

[@notallgarbage]

You cannot know that... who is saved, who is not...

[@omarvazquez3355]

"They believe different things" Baron believes the Eucharist is God and therefore worships it. Lane believes the eucharistic is only bread sp Barron is an idolator. But if Barron is right then Lane rejects God in the eucharist. I'm sorry, but one of them is wrong on a CRUCIAL point here. Please tell me what you think of this.

[@truth2power528]

Omar Vazquez yes being a theist only makes one ask as all atheists do “which god?”.

[@natphil8377]

You are so pretty.

[@countryboyred]

Yes brothers who disagree yet are both saved by Christ. What a beautiful thing.

[@matheusrossi6934]

I like how William focus on Jesus and simple faith, talking about church fathers with respect and admiration rather than exalting them above the main truth. Jesus is King, he died, rose from the dead, lives and is our only hope of salvation and justification. God bless you brother William, stay firm on Jesus.

[@scsu5085]

---------------William said exactly what I always fostered in my own view, that there is a core of Christianity, all beliefs that the main christian denominations have in common. There's no need to get blue in the face going back & forth between Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestantism trying to have the last word, just let that portion "be."

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

I don't ever want to be labelled by man's standards of church denomination - Protestant or Catholic. I do however want to be acknowledged as a born-again Christian by Jesus' standard, and sealed with His Spirit of promise.

[@justchilling704]

That’s Protestant though. I get what your saying, but labels exist for a reason.

[@Aaronzeo]

@@justchilling704 most Protestants don’t know they’re Protestant 🤣

[@MidnightIsolde]

I do see what you mean, but this labelling would not be necessary had it not been for splinter groups which grew exponentially as a result of the Reformation. Prior to the Reformation, there wouldn't be much reason to label as catholic for example, specifically in the Latin West as it was a given (the eastern orthodox and oriental orthodox are special cases, and in neither do you see protestant styles). It is a result of protestant reformation that we now see so many groups labelling themselves.

[@Jay33_]

@@AaronzeoThat’s so true😂

[@marvelstark3797]

if this is sunni muslims and shia muslims discussing about different denomination of islam, it would probably ended in just a second with a lot of blood being spilled.

[@kaloyanivanov2801]

Only Catolic which I know is Mitchell Pacwa from debate with James Wait and Walter Martin. I think all Catolics should listen them. God bless all of you!

[@jebbush2527]

Kaloyan Ivanov Listen to Sungenis v White. White gets eaten and spit out in most of them imho.

[@flyingbanana9712]

Fr Chad Ripperger is a must check out for anybody reading this !

[@thatright4985]

I am Catholic. God bless William Craig. He is clearly concerned and doing all he can to preach to the Gospel and help all those who are genuinely confused by modern secular arguments. Honestly, the few times I've heard him speak on specific Catholic teachings he disagrees with, I can tell, he doesn't understand them and has dedicated little to no time learning what they are. I don't expect anyone who doesn't know the teachings or read about them, to have prayed about them, to accept or understand them. I do not judge him for this because it is evident he is using all his time and energy to battling secular argumentation against Christ and that is just fine with me!

[@matthewphilip1977]

Lol @ the Mary stuff.

[@bond3161]

I judge. And God judges. We all know it's not good enough.

[@countryboyred]

I think you misjudge Craig. He’s very familiar with the Catholic arguments and theology. He just simply disagrees with them.

[@octuple505]

Even here he says he doesn't believe, but he doesn't attempt to say the belief is wrong. He just doesn't know. Very charitable of him.

[@davionknight521]

Dr. Craig is very very very... familiar with catholic theology lol

[@jonathandoe1367]

4:19 nearly gave me a heart attack.

[@DavideAugustoDeGiorgi]

😂😂😂

[@vampireodyssey5075]

The demon crawlin😂

[@JJ-cw3nf]

William Lane Craig is a great guy. He’s skeptic about Marian dogmas. But you can also be skeptic about Christianity in general and of God’s existence, if you wanted to

[@creativecatproductions]

The idea that people living in the present have privleged historical access to the Gospels is insanity.

[@pepperachu]

Now I know why most Americans avoid politics

[@amandamargaretbaker2023]

I'm a Catholic but I really think dr Craig is at the top of his game. His arguments are extremely well constructed. Pray to Our Lady and your heart will open.

[@aidanmcwhirter2612]

Something I heard once from a Lutheran Pastor is that the Catholic Church turned away from scripture therefore it is them who split off from Christs church. I myself am currently “stuck in the hallway” as C.S. Lewis put it. Assuming it is possible for the Catholic Church to be wrong on doctrine, (something I’m sure all catholics deny) can you explain to me what seems to be a big contradiction regarding the sinlessness of Mary? Everything I’ve known as a Christian is just so shaken by that very notion. The whole point of the Old Testament and the life of Jesus was to show us that we are helpless without a savior and no one can live up to Gods standard on their own. I mean there are so many Bible verses that indicate this and throughout the whole New Testament I haven’t really seen anything that elevates Mary anywhere near being sinless.

[@crossbearer6453]

Martin Luther was not against Marian dogma

[@sjappiyah4071]

@@crossbearer6453 That doesn’t contradict the problem raised in his statement no ?

[@aleguitarra]

@@crossbearer6453 some marian dogmas came after luter... That's why

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@aleguitarra Dogma is only necessary as a form of control over the mind, when truth and reason _cannot_ lead one there. Control over the mind is witchcraft, by definition, and there is no such thing as a good witch. God gave us reason, to use... not to ignore. The end result of dogma can be seen in the corruption of the entire Catholic church, which has even convinced itself that removing Francis would be wrong. Dogma makes people literally braindead.

[@fnkrodigaz1841]

Why us it far from you to think God can't save someone before they are conceived? The Bible says Jesus is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Where is Mary's sin stated in the Bible? I can show you where Moses signed i can show Paul's sin, Peter's sin and so many more But not Mary's sin. Read the context of her offering at the temple no sin there either.❤✝️🙏🕊❤️

[@mysidianbard5890]

that dude straight up sleeping at the start

[@ladyzelda4323]

Hahahaha

[@annebaybee8]

I love them both! Brilliant people!

[@opfipip3711]

There was no other answer to expect. I was pleased that he was not offensive. I understand his answer. Because there are things in Catholicism i cannot believe even if I try. I know intellectually all reasons Catholic give to believe their "special stuff". But they are not convincing to me.

[@dairekerin]

The things we believe are sceodnary. The catholic church was founded by Jesus, and he told his desiples to have authority over his flock. I don't see two ways about it. If you proclaim to love and follow Jesus you have to love and follow his church.

[@rsagape7300]

@@dairekerin So evangelicals are not His church?

[@oliver8160]

@@rsagape7300 They could be. Maybe different parts of the body of Christ. However, if I may provide my 2 cents, I feel that there must be a living voice of Authority. An empire or referee (of sorts) when there are theological or spiritual disagreements. Evangelical churches don't have that. Not in a broad scope, protestants go to the bible, argue their interpretation of scripture and walk away possibly disagreeing, as each have their own opinion of scripture.

[@williamchase5698]

Conformity is not unity

[@zacatecano114]

William Chase conformity to God’s word is unity, Matthew 16:18-19

[@spitzfire1107]

Healthy exchange between Catholic and Protestant.

[@codythompson759]

Thank you guys for this video. ❤️

[@katie0698]

What a great conversation- instead on focusing on our differences, we are much more productive focusing on “Mere Christianity” there’s far too much division in the church

[@Navii-05]

We,as Christians should definitely get along and be Kind to one another but that doesn't mean we shouldn't correct each other.With all due respect and love most Catholics have a false Salvation view.And that is very important to discuss.

[@markmeade8502]

I left the Catholic Church at 18 and returned after 30 years in the confusion of Protestantism. I heard more false gospel in those years than I ever heard from Catholics.

[@PaulWoods-wv6qj]

Love the truths contained in catholic and protestant teachings and appreciation them. I do disagree with some of the doctrines of both faiths though.

[@georgechristiansen6785]

The idea that agreeing with any number of things catholics believe must make you submit to it's authority is both ignorant and arrogant.

[@iranianskeptic]

I love them both.

[@Army4Runner]

Generally love William Lane Craig. But, I find it ironic that he says one of things he appreciates about Catholic Christianity is the ancient history and tradition dating back to the Church fathers, and in the next breath he says he doesn’t believe in things that Catholics believe. Well, unfortunately for him, Protestantism and evangelical Protestantism in particular are the outliers of general Christian belief worldwide and historically speaking. The ancient traditions and Church fathers he appreciates would be VERY Catholic if he were to meet them by some twist of the space-time continuum. They would also label his comments about the Virgin Mary to be heretical. So, I appreciate when Protestants want to discover and learn from the ancients of Church history and theology, however, I’m dumbfounded when they then claim those same ancients to be supportive of Protestant theology. I should know. I used to be one. Regardless, glad to see these two having a dialogue on the same stage.

[@Viiola24]

Didn’t you comment somewhere else? I recognise the photo. But maybe it wasn’t you 😂 Anyways I just wanted to say. Great point!

[@jarroddavid8352]

Protestant here! What disturbs me about your criticism of William Lane Craig is that the foundation of your criticism is in traditions and I didn’t see you reference a single Bible verse. Can you address his points using scripture? kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2GkZnljgMeJpdEsi=ZmfI3QV1g-_2b7Ez

[@ernestoxaasgrundy6620]

Dr. Lane it's such a gentleman!!

[@陈用大]

God bless, Dr. William Lane Craig!

[@aljhunvillanel1200]

This man is humble but ambitious.

[@pastorsmellgood2473]

I am right there with Dr. Craig. I was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic faith, and left for these very reasons. Very Proud Baptist Pastor to this day.

[@t.d6379]

I'm sorry to hear that! I pray you will have communion with The Church and the real presence of the Body and Blood of Christ again one day.

[@bond3161]

You believe in your own interpretation rather than trust in God who left his church and left a clear interpretation and authority here on earth to administer in his absence, and to return the keys that were given. I'm pretty darn sure, it's either catholic or Orthodox.

[@Jay33_]

Why leave the church Jesus started?

[@classic20rock00]

What does Mr. Craig mean by "I do think that justification is a forensic declaration on God's part"? (2:25-2:31). I simply can't understand what these words mean in this context. Thanks.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Its good that he catches himself pointing out the differences. That is really what real Christianity is imho. Yes, there are differences, but over time there is also common ground.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

You will never get two people to agree on absolutely everything because we are all individuals and not clones of each other.

[@John14-6...]

Maybe because he knows that all you need to be saved is having Jesus as your Lord and savior and not hope in salvation in a church. Any church

[@Repent_and_believe_the_gospel]

Marys ascension into heaven is just one example of so many doctrines that are against what the Holy Scriptures say.

[@fnkrodigaz1841]

What hapened to Enoch?

[@jeazurlantes]

"Against what the Holy Scripture says"? May I know what biblical passage that is? What I know is that it is not in the bible or scriptures, but you are saying that it is in the bible that she is not. Please provide the verse in the bible.

[@osvaldorayasmarquez3977]

Read Apocalypse/Revelation 12: 1-14. The ascension of Mary.

[@user-dbdbehcbn]

Hello from Ireland. The Magisterium of the Catholic Church is preserved from error by God, the same Magisterium that canonized the Bible and declared the dogmas of the faith. The dogmas include the Holy Trinity of God, the Hypostatic Union of Christ, and the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It is considered heretical to reject any dogma of the Catholic faith.

[@mzt7595]

Just say” Mother” Mary

[@PopeEdward]

What I found intriguing is that the Protestant said he didn't believe that Mary is the Immaculate Conception. He didn't say she wasn't only that he didn't believe it, yet although he appears to be knowledgeable he lacks logic. Jesus received His humanity through our Lady which means that if she was not already saved by the Sacrifice of her Son on the Cross before she was even conceived and He's s was born and in fact was born with original sin, then by reasonable deduction Jesus who is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity would have by birth inherited original sin which would be impossible for God because Jesus was like us in every way but sin, therefore it stands to reason that Our Lady's proclamation of being the Immaculate Conception and the understanding of the ancient Apostolic Confessions all understood it, those who choose not to believe it may in fact be committing an unforgivable sin. Just saying.

[@franciscocepeda8416]

Research Catholicism and its history and see how it is not what Jesus preached

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

Just a few of the Messianic prophecies fulfilled in Christ......... Genesis 3:15 ~ "Born of the seed of a woman". ~ Galatians 4:4....... Genesis 12:2-3 ~ "Born of the seed of Abraham". ~ Matthew 1:1....... Genesis 17:19 ~ "Born of the seed of Isaac". ~ Matthew 1:2...... Numbers 24:17 ~ "Born of the seed of Jacob". ~ Matthew 1:2....... Genesis 49:10 ~ "Descended from the tribe of Judah". ~ Luke 3:33....... Isaiah 9:7 ~ "Heir to the throne of David" ~ Luke 1:32-33....... Daniel 9:25 ~ "Time for Jesus' birth". ~ Luke 2:1-2....... Isaiah 7:14 ~ "Born of a virgin". ~ Luke 1:26-27, 30-31 Micah 5:2 ~ "Born in Bethlehem". ~ Luke 2:4-7 Jeremiah 31:15 ~ "Slaughter of the innocents". ~ Matthew 2:16-18 Hosea 11:1 ~ "Flight to Egypt". ~ Matthew 2:14-15 Isaiah 40:3-5, Malachi 3:1 ~ "Proceeded by forerunner". ~ Luke 7:24,27 Psalm 2:7 ~ "Declared the Son of God". ~ Matthew 3:16-17 Isaiah 9:1-2 ~ "Galilean ministry". Matthew ~ 4:13-17 Deuteronomy 18:15 ~ "The prophet to come". ~ Acts 3:30, 22 Isaiah 61:1-2 ~ "Came to heal the brokenhearted". ~ Luke 4:18-19 Isaiah 53:3 ~ "Rejected by his own people" (the Jews). ~ John 1:11 Psalm 110:4 ~ "A priest after the order of Melchizedek". ~ Hebrews 5:5-6 Zechariah 9:9 ~ "Triumphal entry" ~ Mark 11:7, 9, 11 Psalm 41:9 ~ "Betrayed by a friend". ~ Luke 22:47-48 Zechariah 11:12-13 ~ "sold for thirty pieces of silver". ~ Matthew 26:15; 27:5-7 Psalm 35:11 ~ "Accused by false witness". ~ Mark 14:57-58 Isaiah 53:7 ~ "Silent to accusations". ~ Mark 15:4-5 Isaiah 50:6 ~ "Spat upon and smitten". ~ Matthew 26:67 Psalm 35:19 ~ "Hated without reason". ~ John 15:24-25 Isaiah 53:5 ~ "Vicarious sacrifice". ~ Romans 5:6, 8 Isaiah 53:12 ~ "Crucified with transgressors". ~ Mark 15:27-28 Zechariah 12:10 ~ "Body pierced". ~ John 20:27 Psalm 22:7-8 ~ "Scorned and mocked" ~ Luke 23:35-36 Psalm 69:21 ~ "Given vinegar and Gall". ~ Matthew 27:34 Psalm 109:4 ~ "Prayer for his enemies". ~ Luke 23:34 Psalm 22:18 ~ "Soldiers gambled for his coat". ~ Matthew 27:35 Psalm 34:20 ~ "No bones broken". ~ John 19:32-33, 36 Zechariah 12:10 ~ "Side pierced". ~ John 19:34 Isaiah 53:9 ~ "Buried with the rich". ~ Matthew 27:57-60 Psalm 16:10; 49:15 ~ "Would rise from the dead". ~ Mark 16:6-7 Psalm 68:18 ~ "Would ascend to Gods right hand". ~ Mark 16:19 All praise, honour and glory belongs to Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords

[@AzariahJGbeta]

Catholic is one of the first branch in Christianity, but most of Catholic believe are not Biblical.

[@Jay33_]

Correction, it is the original Christianity. Catholicism isn’t unbiblical

[@cohemo077]

WLC needs some Scott Hahn and John Henry Newman

[@MrClews7]

Sure, also throw in some Cathy Newman.

[@jeffreyluciana8711]

If you would like to accept Jesus as your Savior, please say the following prayer: “Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior.”

[@approvedofGod]

The commonality between both is that they are both philosophers.

[@andrewoliver8930]

Most folks are Catholic or Protestant because their parents raised them that way. It's usually not a choice.

[@manuelmendoza6766]

Andrew Oliver and what does that has to do with this?

[@kdmdlo]

That's a cop-out. People should honestly and sincerely seek the truth with God's help ... where ever that takes them. Simply accepting something because "that's how we have always done it" is pretty shallow.

[@ThisisBrak]

You should read more WLC. Your argument is a prime example of the genetic fallacy. This logical fallacy tries to invalidate a claim’s truthfulness by explaining where it came from. This in NO way invalidates the truthfulness of Christianity. You’d have to engage the arguments, instead of claiming that religion or Christianity is false, simply because many children are taught their faith by their parents. For example: “the only reason John is a scientists is because his parents taught him science as a child. It wasn’t a choice on John’s part. Therefore, the scientific method is false.” Sounds ridiculous right?

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@ThisisBrak oh, I don't know, the genetic fallacy is pretty handy. "If you were raised atheist then you're only an atheist because your parents raised you that way, but if you were raised religious then you're just rebelling against what your parents taught you." Boom, atheism isn't true. Checkmate.

[@aisthpaoitht]

I truly think that there can only be one true Christian Church, and any issues with the current teachings or practice should be worked out within the unified Church.

[@Vic2point0]

+Volmire1 Well said. It's amazing how frequently the anti-theists are willing to reject science and history just to avoid admitting that Craig's got some good arguments.

[@marcokite]

i hope one day William Lane Craig will value the gift God has given us in the Immaculate and Ever Virgin Mary who has been gloriously Assumed into Heaven

[@gabilish_ART]

I always thought he was catholic. Just using simple logic "the mother of our Lord" cannot be tainted by sin if she was to bear God Jesus.

[@LydiaMartindale]

That is based on a misconception about ‘original sin’, Babies in the womb cannot sin. (Millions if aborted babies in hell?) Once they are born and grow it is inevitable that all humans will sin. In Romans it says ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Only God is without sin. Only Jesus being God did not sin after he was born. However, after giving birth to Jesus, Mary sacrificed turtle doves as per the law of Moses for purification - indicating she wasn’t pure. She also prays ‘my soul rejoices in God my SAVIOUR. If Mary was sinless she wouldn’t need a saviour.

[@Repent_and_believe_the_gospel]

She was a human being, and needed a Saviour herself.

[@MystoRobot]

William Lane simply need to make a small equation to realize what is the absolute truth: He acknowledge that Catholic Traditions were also practiced by the Fathers, and that Protestantism doesn't have such beliefs or practices. From there, he should also recall God saying that his Church wouldn't succumb to the Gates of Hell (therefore it won't cease to be, nor err from the truth, at least when it comes to its Magisterium and doctrines; weak individuals appear now and then, but they come to pass... and the Church stays on the right path.) If the Early Church believed in the Bishop (pope), the bishops, presbyters, deacons, confession, infant baptism, real presence in the Eucharist, apostolic succession, etc... it is completely *NECESSARY* that the true Church today have these same, very important beliefs and practices. (and they must mean the same things for today's believers). Following this logic, *there is only ONE church that matches all of these beliefs; the Catholic Church.* *Then, the equation:* True Church = Inspired by the Holy Spirit = She teaches the truth = What the Church says about Mary is the Truth. If you trust God and his message, you will trust his Church. (Do not let heretics "alter" what the Church have always taught.) God Bless

[@guynungagap4617]

If the church was wrong, she was wrong from the beginning, indeed. And no defrocked monk, no weird law student, and no mad Scott will change that.

[@aleguitarra]

Mary dogma are so late in history... That confused me

[@bond3161]

Why not Orthodox

[@darylmichael7]

“Gentlemen walk but never run.” -Sting

[@petarcosic2781]

Why do all protestants use " Christians" word,like they are united?There is such a difference in beliefs,like hell (not) being eternal...And also,Jesus had debate with satan on Bible verses.Than why would God wait for 1500 years for perv king,perv priest,and psycho priest(Kalvin)?And also believing that Jesus is God,but not believing Mary is full of Grace,without sin.What is worse,islam came and they started being their own protestants after protestantism.You can go on and on.AND WE ALL THINK THERE IS ONE GOD,SO ONE TRUTH,ONE ECCLESIA...St. Joseph and Mary pray for us!

[@kinggrimlock311]

Let us pray that Bishop Barron and Mari Mari Emmanuel are the future of the Catholic Church, instead of Pope Francis’ politically correct approach that he is shifting the church towards. I’m not a Catholic myself, but it pains me to watch them get misled by their own leader in a time when the truths of the Bible should be taught and not cast aside.

[@davidpauler]

Put down the crack pipe bro

[@justinlequire]

There are things I can't believe too

[@sandysutherland2182]

Yeah, like virgin birth and coming back from the dead!

[@noxplay4906]

@@sandysutherland2182 Well people think a man can get pregnant but that belief doesn't offer any hope and it's actually contributing to the downfall of Western civilization so I prefer Christianity