Willy Wonka/Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Book vs Movie

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

5:02 the funny thing is in the book Dahl made it sound like Charlie's family was starving and I got a few questions about that. a) how the heck has a teacher not noticed how sickly Charlie looks and if he is truly starving he would've been falling asleep in class and struggling with academics which again the teacher should've noticed. b) with the teacher noticing how the heck are social services not being called? Yes Charlie is not in any danger since his parents and grandparents aren't abusive towards him but as a former foster child I can confirm if a family is struggling to put food on the table CAS (CPS in the states) would in fact get involved and help the family with food stamps/food bank cause not providing food for any reason is considered child neglect. I know CATCF is British I believe so not sure about them but I know from a Canadian standpoint his family would be investigated. c) if Charlie is as weak as the book says how the heck is he able to walk? the book mentions how he is sickly due to the lack of food and leaky roof he sleeps under so how the heck is he walking around never mind being able to walk around a huge factory like Willy Wonka's.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah Dahl definitely romanticized what it is like to be starving. Granted it's a kids book so I guess it isn't surprising he didn't have a true portrayal of it.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

@@WhytheBookWins fair enough. If I truly had to guess I would guess that Dahl wanted to do a realistic depiction (he honestly doesnt strike me as a man to "romanticise things" but because of the fact that it was meant as a kids book the publishers said no and Dahl realising he wouldnt win that fight changed it. its ironic that Dahl is known as a children's author but seems to really not like kids himself. Kind of reminds me of Eric Walters who allegedly doesnt like kids/YAs but because that's his genre he puts up with it. Personally I would like a sequel cause the book is really good. Maybe in a few years once Dahl's death isnt so fresh. Im someone who believes that a) u shouldnt do movies based on books after the author recently died ( would say wait at least a decade) when u know the author would disapprove. or b) the owners of Dahl's estate (presumably his kids/ex-wife) give permission or if the owners of the estate arent his family then only if his family is okay/indifferent.

[@EricBarthDev]

You have no comprehension of anything.. ffs.. the past was not a great place for child welfare. How are you so ignorant ? I am astonished you are so clueless! .. but that's what we have nowadays.. ijiots who think they know it all.. yet you know nothing.

[@Znjed0]

26:52 There is very little CG in the 2005 version. Everything in the Chocolate Room was real, even the giant waterfall. Practical was used everywhere as much as possible, with the exception of very few impossible-to-shoot scenes.

[@1UpJohn]

The glass elevator scene with all the fireworks really took me out. I thought the CGI looked particularly bad in that scene. But overall, you are right. There wasn't a lot of CGI from what I remember of it.

[@Cool-eo1oe]

Yes!! 🍫 I have been binging your videos.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Hope you enjoy! 😁

[@1UpJohn]

Me too. 😄

[@darkridergames1707]

I personally prefer the 2005 movie. While the 1971 movie has its charm, I just really like how faithful the 2005 movie is to the book. The 1971 film also had a lot of scummy behavior from the execs and producers towards Roald Dahl, which really sours my taste for it. The 2005 film was closely and lovingly worked on by Dahl’s widow and daughter to make sure that the film would have been one that Dahl was proud of if he had been alive to see it.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks for sharing! I definitely have a soft spot for the 2005 movie.

[@gaineyjohnson6628]

Great work. It's Gene. Gene makes the 1971 movie magic to me. It was always Gene. Pure Imagination with the menace and the magic of the character still holds up. I loved Roald Dahl as a kid but as an adult the twists of his personal failings stick out in his writing. Still love Matilda and I think my daughter liked it too. Great work, great video.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah Wilder is iconic!

[@fogartyfox592]

Personally, the 2023 movie Wonka was incredible, definitely worth a watch if you haven't already. Also, Happy New Year!

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks for sharing! I am planning on seeing this sometime this month. Afterwards, I will make a video sharing my thoughts so keep a look out for that :)

[@kalonkirk8082]

Same! I just finished it it was awesome

[@EricBarthDev]

it was a terrible movie for nitwits. It was bereft of magical feeling, lesson learning, intelligence, appreciation... it was not a Wonka movie.. it was a copycat budget Wonka.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

ALthough I do wonder with the sucess of the first movie why they never adapted the second one? I know Dahl was unhappy with the 1971 verision so maybe he banned plans of making a sequel? I know the other adapation of his book the witches which was released in 1991 (the OG not the recent remake) he wasnt happy with either because of the "too happy ending" where the boy is turned back into a human while in the book he remains a mouse (and sadly presumably dies about a decade later since Mice don't live that long but as a former human he may live longer than a regular mouse which is addressed in both book and the newer adaptation)

[@WhytheBookWins]

I think I mentioned it in the video, but yeah Dahl hated the movie and wouldn't allow them to make a sequel.

[@8pagesdeep]

Boat Ride in the book: Oh, how kind and wholesome Wonka is being! Boat Ride in the 70s version: Wonka's brief moment of pure insanity 😂😂 Also, you blew my mind with the Roald Dahl segment. Got me curious to check out his daughter's book, too. Great review!

[@WhytheBookWins]

That basically sums it up 😆 And yeah it would be interesting to read her book!

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

19:19 I think in the 71 movie and perhaps the book as well Wonka says that the trash chute goes to an incinerator which was the big panic.

[@barttheraven]

Roald Dahl's name is actually pronounced, "Roo-All Doll."

[@LongdogBookReviews]

I'd love to see a review comparing the 1990 and 2017 adaptations of Stephen King's "It", to the novel!

[@WhytheBookWins]

I do want to read the book, but I'm too scared to watch the movies 🫣

[@LongdogBookReviews]

@@WhytheBookWins Haha fair enough! :) I think I might do it at some point. If you like more poignant stories; I'd recommend 'Still Alice'., or 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape'

[@coenfealy4731]

@@WhytheBookWinsthe old one isn’t scary but the new one is

[@manman6122]

19:21 If you had to rank each of the 4 fates of the bratty kids based on if they happened to you, how would you rank them and why ?

[@WhytheBookWins]

This sounds like a question a teacher would ask lol. Are you using my video to cheat in school??

[@manman6122]

@@WhytheBookWins LOL no, I was curious because you said that Mike got it the worst but I think Violets was arguably worse. Mike gets like shrunk and stuff and then stretched, which seems painful but at the same time violet is literally like blown up and then “JUICED”!?? Which sounds like extremely dubious and painful. Would you rather be shrunk and then stretched or inflate to like 10 feet and then be juiced?

[@WhytheBookWins]

@manman6122 I hadn't considered the juicing... but being stretched also sounds very painful. I think I would still say Mike had it the worst all in all. But violet would be number two. Augustus would be painful too, being squeezed through a pipe so he would be third. Then lastly Veruca.

[@manman6122]

@@WhytheBookWins DAMMMN… So if Willy Wonka invited you to his factory and was like “jump in front of this TV thing or chew this gum” is it safe to say that you would be swelling into a giant purple ball 😂 😂?

[@WhytheBookWins]

@manman6122 I think so haha. Although if I were shrunk, I think I would rather stay small than be stretched out (maybe i could convince others to be shrunk with me and we could create a tiny community). Whereas with Violet you really have no choice but to be juiced.

[@micheleandhenrycasavant386]

Dahl's message wasn't gum chewing, snacking, watching television and giving your child what they want are bad. Wonka's factory is closely associated with every one of these activities in one form or another. Dahl's message was these activities are okay once in a while just don't allow these things to define you, don't over do it.The child characters are examples of what happens if you allow these activities take over your life. A balanced view in every aspect of life is sound advice we all need to hear now and then. We have both movies in our library and my wife Michele adores that song Imagination as well, she sings it quite a bit. Look forward to your next project.

[@timothyripka7488]

A few things from the book, the toothpaste factory actually closed. The 2005 movie had a better explanation for Charlie's dad being fired. Also, Charlie only buys two bars in the shop. You might be misreading it, but the lines about another and another are in reference to his bites. He buys a second one and finds the ticket. The money would be very valuable to his family, so he plans on buying one bar and saving the rest. He gets tempted to buy a second one because, at this point, his family is all starving.

[@tommydiaz-millan2438]

Don't forget E.B. White. He hated the cartoon movie of his book Charlotte's Web for being a musical. He was dead already when the Nickelodeon live-action movie came out and wasn't a musical.

[@BradLad56]

19:47 Sorry but i can't resist this: She's blue daba dee daba da daba dee daba daaa lol

[@WhytheBookWins]

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[@WaterBearReads]

Great review!! So many interesting aspects that I had never considered! I loved the book and the Gene Wilder movie and I am not sure I could choose between them. It would probably be a tie for me. The 1971 has the music which I love so much and the Charlie Bucket's character so much more heartfelt. Also I agree Gene Wilder is now so iconic to the role, although Johnny Depp definitely makes his mark too on other roles he has played, and probably would have had Wilder not come first! Great video! Love your outfit for it!!!

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah both movies have fun in their own way!

[@jacquelineedwards4140]

The lifting drink sounds similar to the whiz pop drink in the BFG. Roald Dahl had a dreadful time at boarding school as a child.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah it is pretty similar! And I didn't know that! I should have researched him a bit more

[@angelaholmes8888]

I first read the book when i was 9 years old i really liked it this book got me hooked into reading i grew up watching the 71 film gene wilder was great in the role i also watched the other version starring Johnny Depp it was nice but i do understand why some people didn't enjoy that version

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah same!

[@tommydiaz-millan2438]

So, the chocolate room and some other parts of the Tim Burton movie weren't all CGI heavy. These were real practical effects and production design done by hand in an actual set. There's a little bit of CGI in the movie which isn't very distracting. Much of the sets and production design were real. Even Burton used real trained rescue squirrels to portray Wonka's squirrels making the nuts. Some were computer generated but most were real squirrels. Burton is already a visionary and these days he's a little effy about CGI in his movies now he's finished directing Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and only used stop-motion animation. So his adaptation isn't CGI heavy and didn't distract from the visual storytelling the movie was going for.

[@tommydiaz-millan2438]

Also no green screen room required.

[@huntercoleman460]

Did you know Roald Dahl hated the 70s one Laura? Mainly because he didn’t like Gene Wilder. Also Quaker Oats who funded the movie was originally going to make and sell a real Wonka Bar. However, there was a problem in the formula which caused the bars to melt on shelves so they were withdrawn. While the remake is more faithful to the book, I think Depp is very miscasted as Wonka.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah I did read about that! And yeah, I don't know if either actor really embodies the Willy Wonka from the book

[@lilmelvin11]

I was 11 years old when the 71 movie came out. I never saw it, but some of the kids had a derogatory term then..."Aw, you're just a Willy Wonka!" or to our friends who were girls, we'd say "You're just like Veruca Salt!"😂...Years later there was a cool alternative rock band (all young women) called Veruca Salt, just being ironic reference.... I loved Gene Wilder later in mid-70s movies like Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstei and a later serious detective series on tv he did ("Radio Days" or similar title) set in the 1940s at a radio broadcasting station Worth checking out if you can find it. A lovely period piece. You make me want to finally watch the 1971 movie, you break it down so well. Maybe not the "Johnny Depp" version...I tried to watch the "Alice" movie and it was too freaky with the overkill CGI, just like I love Helena Bonham Carter in other movies, but not in that same movie with her in it . It's true. Sometimes CGI-overkill overwhelms the Story and the Acting...

[@lilmelvin11]

​​@@WhytheBookWinsSorry to "carpet-bomb" comments, but this situation reminds me of a novel I found in a used book store long ago called "Landdark" (?) by a Scottish writer Alasdair Grey. A fantastical book where the protagonist awoke with each chapter to find himself in a different reality but a similar eternal Lady Love under a different guise, and it really impressed me at the time. Have to try to find it again! Some novels I have re-found in this "Age of Amazon" were an interesting journey back then , some different opinions upon re-reading, but some takes hold on and some are so consistent. Like re-reading "Frankenstein" and "Dracula" novels I hadn't read since I was a teenager, my reaction was "how stupid the movie versions were, compared to the original novels, how superficial! Frankenstein's creation could speak and express it's own horrible, tortured Existence" ...Sorry, I just got director/actor Kenneth Branagh's version of "Mary Shelley's 'Frankenstein' cd today, haven't seen in years but I remember it followed Mary Shelley's book pretty close in the doomed narrative. I'm excited to re-watch.

[@MalakiaLaGattaNera]

​@@WhytheBookWins I feel like the actor that gave the closest performance to book Wonka was Douglas Hodge (in the original West End production of the musical). He even recorded unabridged audiobooks of the book and its sequel, The Great Glass Elevator. Even the costume they used for that production was extremely faithful to the descriptions and illustrations by Quentin Blake, down to the black goatee and green trousers.

[@WhytheBookWins]

@MalakiaLaGattaNera oh cool! Thanks for sharing 😁

[@michellecrocker2485]

It didn’t suck. In fact, i think it was the perfect prequel for the ‘71 movie. Timothee chalamet really did sell to me that the gene wilder Wonka started out this way. The Wonka Wonka keeps the wonder and whimsy and I love that they did that

[@WhytheBookWins]

I still need to watch Wonka! I love Timothee though and I'm sure he is amazing in this as well 😊

[@michellecrocker2485]

@@WhytheBookWins it’s worth checking out. I was pleasantly surprised

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

"Is it raining is it snowing is the danger ever growing?" IMO my favorite song from the 71 movie is "Cheer Up Charlie" which is the song that Charlie's mom sings while working at the laundry.

[@iria871]

i never got the 70s version hype it looks like a cheap high school theater production definitely not magical compared with the visuals of the 2000s version that felt like an actual children story

[@WhytheBookWins]

Oh wow, I would definitely say it looks better than a high school theater production 😆

[@iria871]

@@WhytheBookWins i was exaggerating but it does look like a theater production to me probably because i saw it when it was vary dated and after the 2000s version

[@prod.kidmizu]

It looked good to me as a kid, now the chocolate river really just looks like brown water. The acting and music makes up for everything. The whole cast has good/funny moments and the intro with the golden ticket craze have some of the best scenes in film.

[@forrestdupre87]

@@WhytheBookWinsyou should see the Tom and Jerry version

[@forrestdupre87]

@@WhytheBookWinsyou should do Pinocchio, The Wizard of Oz

[@lilmelvin11]

By the way, that shirt/top/whatever is too cool! Gotta shine now and then.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks! I try to wear something that represents the topic, and I thought this shirt and earrings were very fitting for the world of n Willy Wonka!

[@manman6122]

@@WhytheBookWinsyour outfit kinda looks like what violet wore in the Quentin Blake illustrations of the book

[@andrewmcneish5309]

Hey why didn’t you include the Tom and Jerry version

[@RocketRcn947]

Roald Dahl was also a rude, egocentric person and was quite rude to people during his lifetime. Although he may not have been an angel in life, his books spawned a love for reading.

[@HappyOrangeCat]

I like the Smoking Popes cover of Pure Imagination. Good song.

[@seanmalloy0528]

For Veruca, I would have said Greed

[@CyaSynchro]

8:59 Exactly, I'm an older Gen Z, and something I realise my generation is hating about kids is the fact they are always on their ipads.

[@coenfealy4731]

There’s actually a lot more Wonka adaptations there’s of course the og book and gene wilders movie and Tim burtons respectively But there’s also Charlie and the great glass elevator (1972) Kalle och chokladfabriken (lost media 1983) Charlie and the chocolate factory the musical (2013-present) Tom and Jerry and Willy wonka and the chocolate factory (2017) R rated Willy Wonka (2020) Wonka’s golden eggs (2021) Lego Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory (2022) Wall-e Wonka (2022) Wonka (2023) Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory in minutes (2023) Charlie and the chocolate factory in five minutes (2024) The ultimate Charlie and the chocolate factory recap (2024) Willy Wong and the dim sum factory (2024) There’s also a personalised book called my golden ticket adventure but I don’t know when it came out I have read/seen all of these except kalle och chokladfabriken obviously I’m also working on my remake of Charlie and the chocolate factory which hopefully will be posted on my channel next year And taika watiti and Netflix are working on an animated series of Charlie and the chocolate factory

[@WhytheBookWins]

Oh wow, thanks for sharing!

[@coenfealy4731]

@@WhytheBookWins np

[@summerchild_]

A lot of authors of books for kids kinda hate children idk

[@WhytheBookWins]

hmm yeah that's pretty ironic.

[@Kaiyanwang82]

Nice OW quote :)

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks! I love Wilde

[@forrestdupre87]

You should to the audiobook narrated by Eric Idle

[@sandraipiah7071]

The book is better than the movie

[@semih756]

Who will present this plot in class tomorrow haha give me chance. Thank you!

[@grantmitchel]

Thought you'd lived in Cali

[@WhytheBookWins]

I use to! I've been in and out of California for the last 20 years

[@BradLad56]

Did ya know there's a prequel movie about Wonka coming out? Personally i think a prequel is kind of unneeded since i don't think there's a lot of people who want to know the backstory of Wonka considering that he doesn't really need one but it is what it is.

[@WhytheBookWins]

Yeah I mention it at the end of the video. I'll probably see it in theaters but it isn't a movie I am highly anticipating.

[@BradLad56]

@@WhytheBookWins Don't blame ya. Of all the stories that don't need a prequel, I'd put this fairly high on the list.

[@AmoDman87]

So, what did you think? I thought Wonka was wonderful.

[@Wartburn]

Gene wilder wonka vs Michael Jackson not even close

[@WhytheBookWins]

Michael Jackson?

[@coenfealy4731]

@@WhytheBookWinsdepps wonka was heavily based on Michael Jackson

[@firestrikerii810]

71 being a musical shouldn’t give it pointers as the 2005 movie is better in almost every way. It gives way more emotional impact and it follows the book way better than the 71 film which was just a cashgrab. I and many prefer the 2005 version. Everything you said was wrong

[@WhytheBookWins]

Lol just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make either of us wrong or right since it is all subjective.

[@wherenomadhasgoneb4618]

Some movies should not get remade specially with johnny depp he is just pathetic. Dark Shadows was terrible also I might of enjoyed depps version if he looked like mad hatter in his Alice in wonderland

[@EricBarthDev]

The factory has not been closed for a really long time.. it has had no public access for a really long time.. you make countless mistakes. How are you and most of your commenting people, just so dang clueless ?!

[@WhytheBookWins]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!