Winder stair rebuild: options that DON`T work

[@adammacer]

Your model doesn't represent either of the two plans you drew as you omitted the first riser of the winding treads (the 3rd of the flight) on both.. as for the 3rd plan - you're kidding right? A 45º winder pair absolutely works but you have to add a step above or below the winders to compensate for the winder you lost.

[@apprenticemath]

Model is made to match both sketches meticulously. Video does not attempt to teach spacial orientation or blueprint reading theory, those are implied prerequisites. Adding steps may not work in trapped run.

[@adammacer]

Sorry but it's not - both plans show the 3rd riser being the front of the first winder separating the second tread and the first winder. Your model has the second straight tread and the first winder tread at the same height meaning you've made your model one rise too low from the beginning of the winders. That said, it makes no difference because reducing the winder by a tread & riser still creates the problem you show IF there are other restricting factors. However to say that that option doesn't work, without the qualifier that is only the case in a trapped run, is misleading.

[@GGarcia7111]

Adam Macer He can’t think outside of the box

[@dantcacenco1]

@@GGarcia7111 "outside the box"... I see what you did there.

[@spatoine3009]

"Model is made to match both sketches meticulously." That's funny. I get it though. When you're so into what you're trying to say, you miss something so obvious.

[@luckystrike656]

So is there a option that works? I have a stairs that I need to rebuild and have limited space

[@siriosstar4789]

On my stairs the width of the tread as the stairs begin their turn are wider , meaning they don't come to a sharp point . this is achieved by using an open riser design . this allows the treads to dive under the stair above it creating a wide point at the curve

[@silverfox8801]

My wife thinks I’m a nerd for watching these vids!!!😂😂👍👍

[@apprenticemath]

I`m a nerd for making these vids, so, yeah she is about right.

[@lawrencewells2719]

the tread should be measured in the middle .. well that's in the uk and should at 225mm ie the treads,, what a load of Bs??

[@apprenticemath]

Not in North America

[@leonoraauren5571]

@@apprenticemath Oh, that explains everything :-D

[@GGarcia7111]

Just add 1 more step at the bottom section. Or cut the header back if possible You should have at least 2 to 3 options to accomplish it

[@alanh3081]

Are you being seriously?

[@maxxweber4336]

Spiral stairs never have the same tread depth from outside to inside.

[@apprenticemath]

of course

[@josepeixoto3384]

Nice explanation,but i need something that WORKS,i need to carry a person on a wheelchair up and down(me and a helper); i need to get rid of those fawking stupid angled steps,they are dangerous. Can someone explain to me the reason they make stairs with those angled steps,instead of a more logical ONE big square? Thanks

[@apprenticemath]

Main reason: trapped run (limited horizontal space to make the needed vertical height) Reason no.2: good looks (or so builders think) - Of course flat landings are safest.

[@xxwalhalaxxmozza7415]

Jose Peixoto standard uk stair height is 200mm per step, if you change it by a few millimetres to accommodate a gain or loss of a half step then it should be evened out over entire staircase otherwise it could creat a trip hazard for someone that's not expecting a half stair or stair and a half drop

[@malcyt6341]

You haven't a clue about Staircase manufacturing have you .

[@xxwalhalaxxmozza7415]

This video is too simple for me but maybe useful to others