Winding a garage door torsion spring part 2

Disclaimer:
Sorry spoke too fast 7x4.... I have already checked for proper seating of the spring and winding cones.
***To be clear, I do not condone trying to do this yourself*** This is not a training or instructional video****
****You can get hurt, damage property, perform this wrong...etc
This video is for entertainment purposes only***
Buster's Garage Door LLC and any associated parties are not responsible and shall not be held liable for how you interpret this video and take no responsibility for anything at all that may happen should you choose to attempt this yourself, or any actions the viewer may take regarding this video. Please call your local professional!
****Once again, you may watch this video, but do not touch the system!!!!!!!!!! This is not a training video, it is simply entertainment. Please support your local pros.
AGAIN: this is not a marketing or instructional video. I'm just showing my skills. This is simply entertainment!

[@danneilson684]

with those "sick math skills" you too can be a garage door installer

[@davidbryant3532]

With 15 minutes of instruction my grand daughter can install a garage door

[@Crimson.S.57]

@@davidbryant3532 you say that until you realize those springs will kill you if you don’t pay attention.

[@davidbryant3532]

@@Crimson.S.57 another girlie boy.

[@NickyVEE89]

😂😂

[@B.Colby107]

7÷4 is 28 did i pass😂

[@FallenActual]

yeah im not smacking the only bar keeping me alive with another bar.

[@CarnageASMR]

Well, good thing you don’t know what you’re talking about and he does!

[@northcountrywoodcraftny5953]

It's cold rolled steel, it's pretty much impossible for him to break it, I install 4 garage doors a day BTW for years now

[@FallenActual]

@@northcountrywoodcraftny5953 no but if you smack the bar and it falls out of the hole that spring will break you

[@northcountrywoodcraftny5953]

@@FallenActual it won't fall out, the amount of friction on that bar is enough to hang off of it while hitting it, there is 70-80lbs of force on the bar rn, there is no possible way to get the bar out when power is on it. If the bar came out and the spring unspun 7 turns, he would be fine, I've had way bigger springs break in front of my face with 14 turns on it, I was fine, people get hurt when the bar slips out of thier hand and it hits you, they use the wrong steel and it snaps, comes around and impales you, there are many other ways to do it wrong and get hurt but this guy isn't doing any of those, I know because I've seen it all.

[@ButterNoToast]

@@northcountrywoodcraftny5953 thanks for this info, a new fear had been unlocked for a second 🤣

[@K-dog2020]

7 divided by 4 = 28 ? Hmmmm. That’s not like any math I’ve done. Before smacking that bar outward, you better make sure it is well seated or bad things could happen.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Yes sorry spoke too fast Lol 7x4.... and I guess i take that for granted about the seating... plus, I can't give away every trade secret ;) This video is for entertainment purposes only.

[@sethreign8103]

​@@garageDoorFUBARmanual The world would be a better place if more people weren't afraid of their trade secrets being taught like how Northridgefix, Louis Rossmann & Sorin teach how to do PCB repairs. Competition is not a bad thing my guy.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

@@sethreign8103 okay then I'll show more tips!

[@danneilson684]

with those "sick math skills" you too can be a garage door installer

[@metalman6708]

Lmao I was coming here for this comment. 😂

[@PCHUANG-yk9pw]

The last few strikes on the bar truely shocked me to the core. Especially after the 7 divided by 4 equals 28 revelation, as I was stilling reeling with the alien math.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Read below comments/rebuttals

[@Infernoblade1010]

I've seen so many of these break at work over the years. It's a hell of a sound when they finally go.

[@racer0316]

It's way easier to count revolutions of the set screws, you can get two by hand then then add five and a half for a seven foot door. Then just slide it over by hand with the bar, no smacking. Stand to one side not right in front. If you haven't been trained don't fuck with them.

[@jackmcminn2520]

I've heard this is one of the most dangerous things to fuck around with at the house

[@atruefriend9306]

You heard right that shit is no joke!

[@northcountrywoodcraftny5953]

With Cold rolled steel bars and taking it slow it's np, I do this everyday, the only scary springs are the big doors like a 14x20 I work on alot, man death is always near

[@ogt92fromthe1step9]

​@@northcountrywoodcraftny5953I'm industrial maintenance I have 99 doors in my building that I take care of. The scary springs are the rusty ones.

[@A_barrel]

​@@ogt92fromthe1step9 those are half the ones I work under. Every morning opening them is sketchy. 2 snapped in the last few months.

[@zachmyers8940]

It’s not the springs that are scary, it’s the steel cables attached to them that rust out and hold all of the tension

[@marksurfer1554]

I did one Spring once, and that is it. Lots of tension on those prying bar's.

[@troyavery6889]

When I used to repair or replace roll up doors,we just drew or painted a line on the spring before we started winding and it did the math for you.😮

[@danielfinney4295]

I used to install doors professionally in commercial places, those winding bars are dangerous, like really really really really dangerous. Please don't mess with a torsion system on a garage door unless you know what you are doing. On a side note, I would always add at least an extra turn on the spring that way in a year or two when the spring starts to lose its torsion power it is actually at the tension that's needed

[@NTM2009]

Those bars are how the springs are tensioned. They aren't dangerous if used properly

[@HughWoo]

@@NTM2009 so would that mean they’re not dangerous if used improperly?

[@jimmytesta1454]

​@@NTM2009 they are deadly

[@ThePinkPanth3r]

Garage doors scare me, had a spring break once, if my foot was a few inches forward it would have probably broken every bone in it.

[@fightme5543]

Ok. Glad my physical rejection of what was happening is more than justified. Every time he touched the spring I had "russian lathe accident" stuck in my head... Just... No.

[@ObsoleteTechnologies]

The "New" design features an insanley practical way of winding these with just an impact /or socket wrench. It blew my mind the first time i seen them!I had my two pieces of rebar ready to go, and was like"Damn man, it's about time!" -as someone who has wound more of these springs than i'd ever like to be around, it greatly reduces the "pucker" factor

[@HeadbangMushroom]

I've done this with big commercial garage doors, springs 2-3 times thicker.. fun job

[@dasworkshop4967]

My neighbor across the street and I were grudge racers at the local NHRA track. I was over at his place one night working with him on his bike, when out of nowhere the plate where the spring ends meet in the middle door let loose due to decayed wood beneath it. It was one of the loudest things I ever heard and I nearly sh^t myself. David almost had a heart attack, he was white as a sheet!

[@bonnevil69]

mine just let go two weeks ago from aging wood Yeah loud as hell and did a lot of damage to the door and frame Lags and old wood is not safe anymore

[@nightwalker5103]

I'm impressed you stretched the spring!

[@ThisShiiRightHere]

I couldnt find matching springs for mine so i called a fella, he drew a chalk line straight across and used that to count rotations, absolutely genius imo.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

As long as you match the ippt with the door weight. The springs can differ in torque slightly... but don't do any extreme missmatches. You'll wind up needing another replacement quicker if you have a big one taking the brunt of the weight

[@randysmith9636]

Based on this mans math skills, when you attempt to raise the door, this sucker will shoot up and and hit the back wall.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

You watched me do the right amount of turns, but go on..

[@randysmith9636]

​@@garageDoorFUBARmanual Go on? Where? i just watched it again, twice. I watched you move it four 1/4 turns. So one complete turn. What are you talking about?

[@bryanewing5058]

Hey, just paint a line on the spring from end to end when the spring has no turns on it. Then as you put tension on the spring, each turn is a twist on the paint line. 7 foot door get 7 1/2 turns so that’s 7 1/2 twists on the paint line. Way easier then counting and then having your buddy ask you a question half way through winding the spring and forgetting your count. Lol.

[@Tidgey]

I used to work at a door company that did residential install but I also worked in the mines for them installing high pressure ventilation doors. The spring on that makes these resi ones so miniature. There would be so much tension on them it would lift u off the ground.

[@ulricirwin4320]

I like your division skills

[@CrazyPsych0B]

Excellent smacking my friend. I was yelling at my phone saying you needed to smack it to keep it from binding and you sure did. Well done!

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

😆

[@CryptMinen]

I do fire station doors all the time, full view glass sections. The springs on those doors are no joke.

[@johnnycatch2243]

How many pairs of underwear do you pack?

[@eldiabloelbandito9550]

My brother was a firefighter. Told me they were called out to a guy's house fixing his garage door. The bar slipped out of his hand and cut cleanly through his wrist, and off his hand went.

[@brazilnut8898]

Your brother is full of it

[@aggressivelyamicable5987]

@@brazilnut8898 Nope, this is absolutely possible. Guy is lucky his wrist was the only thing he lost. There is so much potential energy tied into these springs.

[@landscapingspecialist]

Serious AF my good friend used to install doors. And he had a spring break and almost cut his entire arm off. It was brutal. All I’m sayin is be frosty out there’s fellas 💪🏻💪🏻

[@BlackmanforTrump]

Cool ive never done this and dont have the right tools but im going to give it a shot later today, thanks!

[@mixter7x7]

MAKE SURE - you get the right springs. There are different springs for full vertical lift vs doors that roll into horizontal stow. Vertical lift springs are too powerful for horizontal stow doors. Coat your spring with oil / light grease so the coils will slip and not rust.

[@MNNski]

The amount of potential energy in that is scary. I once saw a spring that broke embedded in solid concrete. Scary stuff.

[@michaelhogan9053]

If you mark the spring with a grease pencil before you start winding, you can just count the twist marks.

[@RJ-lk5pj]

Prior to tightening spay a thin line of spray paint along the length of the spring.. so when you’re distracted you still know the number of turns are on the spring. What works for me ✌🏻

[@gregborbonus4122]

Funny. This is actually how you do it. Cuz little residentials are easy, you can count those. Commercial, you're so damn busy worrying about that bar taking your skull out if it slips, you don't have time to count. Plus the numbers get a bit higher and really easy to lose count.

[@deanperez1413]

I've heard one of them snap it sounds like a shotgun going off in the garage

[@olddirtybooger]

Imagine my surprise when this happened at 4AM. "OH SOMEONE IS SHOOTING IN MY GARAGE." Well let's just go see about this.

[@deanperez1413]

I had just got done working on my car and went to put the door up and BANG. Scared the crap out of me.

[@LeigonX]

It's even better if your sitting literally right above where it breaks. I'm glad it didn't come through my floor 😂 I was shook, so was the wall

[@natew48]

You got that right. It's a god damn explosion! Had one break while I was in the garage. My ex wife came running down into the garage and checked on me and said it shook the whole damn house. (Garage is attached to the house)

[@jordanrobberecht7003]

Ive done this on my own door. I didnt tension the spring like this. Installed new door and track and everything. With the door at horizontal, use vice grips to lock the door in place and undo the last panel. When the door is all the way up, the spring has little tension so its easy to wrap the cable around the pulley and add just a bit of tension. Hook the bottom panel up and hand lower the door to feel it out and make sure its not bound up. Its much easier that way but only works in some cases

[@Dennis-uc2gm]

When I was younger and crazier I replaced a couple sets of these, Now I call a garage door place to do it. You gotta keep all your marbles in one basket when your doing these, no distractions allowed.

[@Bigiron429]

I’m a diesel mechanic and I’ve had the pleasure to work on this type of stuff with cargo trailers which doesn’t compare to a garage door. These things are extremely dangerous

[@mechanicallycreative9788]

I like to use slightly sketchy pipe wrenches that way you never know if the teeth will suddenly decide to give up.

[@bonnevil69]

I hope that's a joke.... hard to think of anything scarier than that haha

[@MrMD-xd1tc]

Use to scare the 💩 out of me when we would tension the 16 to 18ft tall industrial door springs. I've seen one snap before. Lucky enough, just our ear drums were ringing for a while and no serious injuries. Did that gig in my late teens but also did loading dock systems and after seeing my co-worker have his arm almost guillotined off from the should down when a 24 ft 30 yr old loading dock had its hydraulics give out, i decided to quit. We knew the problem before hand and it was scary bc it would do it randomly when lifting. So i convinced my senior to let me hang on to him while he went in to put the safety stand, I pulled his ass out the second I thought it was gonna happened and just as I got most of him out, it gave way but although he didn't lose his arm, his shoulder was so black n blue bc the dock lip did catch him but we got his arm out in time. His shoulder looked like someone just wolloped it from above with a baseball bat but since he was an old timer he was saying crap to the boss except the dock couldn't be salvaged. Screw that shit. Don't play with those springs on ur house garage either unless u know what ur doing.

[@user-tb2vp1oc4q]

This is a special math 7/4 is 24 they start teaching this method after Covid. Everything has changed. LOL anyways thank you for the info.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

You can thank me with a subscription ;)

[@paulgeorge2099]

Paint a line on the spring and put 7 1/2 turns on a 7' door then test adjust either way and done. Where I used to work we would hang the whole door in new construction in 45 min. Or 4- 16 x 7's by lunch.

[@Garage_doctor]

I’m a garage door technician and this was painful to watch 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Well hey, thanks for watching Lol

[@davidbryant3532]

Why?

[@phonotd]

I'm a bull$hit detecting technician, this was painful to read. 😂

[@HBSuccess]

100%. This was pure Bravo Sierra.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

You have to be able to get to that part of the repair for it to help

[@richardcurtis2688]

Great math skills there Will Hunting!

[@theycallmedonkey6664]

Good tip on stretching the spring, not too many people pass that along

[@leewarburton5494]

When that let's go is the scariest thing on the planet

[@tylerbell6796]

Absolutely terrifying. Thanks for doing this work so I don’t have to.

[@JSAFIXIT]

I'll play with live 220 before I do this!

[@kharton28]

If you draw a line with a white marker you can count the lines after you wind. Amd from a service end its easy to look at the spring and see if the spring slipped, or unwound, or when replacing a high lift or vertical lift you spec the spring wire, ID, and Lengths and rewind the new the same winds as the old. If its standar 12" or 15" radius. And regular drums its 1 wind per foot of the door height and add 1/2 to 3/4 depending if you have windows and which section they are in if windows are in the top only add 1/2 if windows are in the third section add 3/4

[@sammcbride113]

Those tension springs scare the shit out of me. I’ve never installed one, but my osha training instructor said he had a guy that got decapitated from not releasing the tension

[@OniSamaGin]

Nice to see I'm not the only one real good at the math thing they talk about.

[@michaelreed1241]

For the DIY’ers out there… hire somebody to do this for you. It’s very dangerous if done wrong… That is all

[@pascrew4639]

It's not really that bad man.. I watched videos for 4 days before getting the courage to do it myself.. Every comment i read was it is crazy dangerous.. It's not.. I didn't even count the amount of turns and my springs were rusty and bind alittle .. think guys are just pussies..

[@midnightrider1854]

Honestly people make this out to be harder and more dangerous than it is. (Not that it's not dangerous) but I figured this out on my own when I got a job working on semi trailers. They said replace the overhead door torsion spring assembly. I didn't have a clue what they were talking about at first till I looked at the new part. After about 20 mins of studying it I figured it out with a few tips from the other guys. But have done many many many since without incident.

[@The_Descending]

Fun fact you can count the marks on the spring(what was the size in white paint) and tell how many winds you have

[@delusionalskys7523]

Better fact . He didn't have no line

[@amorton94]

I really don't understand why everyone is so afraid of these. It literally couldn't be simpler. Just don't be stupid, which seems to be a lot to ask of most people these days.

[@codered10029]

I used to install garage and Rolling gates for years.. rule of thumb for every rotation equals 1 ft.. drawing a line across the spring before u put tension on it can help!! Then u can count the lines after u put tension.. now every line equals a foot for the door!! 8 lines is 8 feet 🎯🎯

[@itaintrocketscience]

Garage door springs are terrifying. I'm noping out

[@PreparedDeath]

Got one of these springs back on by hand once, didnt realise how dangerous it was what I was doing until afterward, I thought I’ll check KZbin see if there was an easier way, saw they can unload like a 12 guage…

[@skeggjoldgunnr3167]

I saw my neighbor hanging with that spring through his head. His ladder fallen. His wife was bringing him another can of ice cold Pabst. I grabbed her before she could see him. I sat her down at her Picnic table in her back yard and explained to her not to go see it. She calmly walked into her house and dialed 911.

[@w3vjp568]

Sorry to hear that. Must’ve been traumatizing to see. I hope he didn’t suffer.

[@jacobusferreira4691]

@@w3vjp568 boy he did not suffer from a torsion spring coming through his skull. That my friend is instant. There is a combination there insuring it be instant. Just getting hit by the spring would kill ya. Never mind it going into your think tank.

[@dylanthompson5092]

This gave me the same feeling of using a coil spring compressor on my front springs for my truck😂 almost feel sick it’s so dangerous

[@hotbrakepads]

The forbidden jack in the box.

[@kevinbruner9255]

That's the old man way I use my surewinder my old shoulder can't use bars anymore

[@wattsong762]

Man he almost got me. It's like I knew it didn't sound right but he seemed so confident. "7 divided by 4 is 28 so" I'm over here like man this guys knows his stuff. 😂😂😂 You sly dog you. Almost got me 😬

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Lmao sorry for the mixup

[@notstewie-HelpMeGetTo50SubsPlz]

Ive done sone really sketchy shit as a tool and die maker, but these door springs are the 1 thing that makes the hair on my gooch stand up 😂😂

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Lmao

[@rareearthmetal5019]

The good ol death slinky. Aint nuthn more dangerous then a game ah forks n outlets.

[@Linsanganlife]

Definitely a DIYer, wrong on the math, talking at door smoothness/spring, & tapping winding cone away from spring pad. 😂

[@3934brookie]

The most American math I've ever heard. 7 divided by 4 is 28. This is why school exams make you show your working out

[@washguy9577]

I do these on 53ft trailers and box trucks and hate them. I always try and avoid these jobs, just no patience, lol and we use a strap to pull spring when we can

[@23Ruffa]

Do not smack your pinned bar!!! I about had a heart attack watching this. Simply grab it with two hands and slightly stretch the spring, then set your bolts. As a professional in this industry, please do not do anything involving the springs or cables of a garage door without a professional. They can and will kill you if done incorrectly.

[@alfhwuqd]

​@@swdydud your springs must be the ones I go and stretch and lube because they grab themselves so tight the door doesn't move.

[@dkdj29]

Could of used a white paint marker, draw straight line across before winding. After tensioning count the lines. For taking the binds out of the springs just use your free bar and tap along the spring from one side to the other get it to sit evenly across.

[@ryananderson8974]

It's it's amazing more people aren't dead or wounded from guessing that s***

[@adamcolburn1986]

To me it's easier to draw a line on it with paint stick before you wind it and just count the wraps it makes on the spring as your tension the spring.

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

That's cool. In the video I was actively tuning up the whole system for my pops garage. He filmed me, my mouth moved faster than my brain and before ya know it... boom... instant views and comments about my math skills, whoops lol... I'll make a math video here soon.. anyway.. I just say that to say this: 7 complete turns for a 7' tall door... 8 for 8' etc... I usually go by the orientation of the set screws but I'm sure a line makes it even better. What kind of a marker do you use to make the line.. or do you just use the pencil? You can blame android for any weird grammatical mistakes :p

[@erikg1494]

Yes keep those my husband tried to fix this calls coming in

[@Mm-om9ol]

7 times 4 and its called a revolution

[@alankent1850]

If you spray a line fron one side to the other before you put on tension. You can count the turns easily

[@leedonoway7796]

Remember kids 7÷4=28 it's that new Math that there teaching!!!😂😂

[@Eleventyseven9228]

It’s “they’re” or “they are” not “there”😂😂

[@paultitov166]

This is some ancient technology, why in the us we are so behind when it come to simple things. # roll up doors.

[@UndersiegeAl]

At least This guy got math working for him

[@bambur1]

One of the very few jobs of home ownership I will NOT do! Pay a pro a few hundred to do it. Its cheaper than a hospital visit.

[@Pearhead4207]

back to 2nd grade for this fella

[@collpolp]

Honestly this is very dangerous leave it to the professionals that tension can kill you the guy who taught me told me to never play around with that stuff it will break your face in

[@dennisdaley504]

They are called quarter terms and you need And you need 32 quarter terms on a 16 by 7. I did that s*** for thirty years and loved all of it

[@bettereveryday143]

Nice work

[@tacoma50]

Pro tip for you homeowners.....When the spring in NOT under tension, stick 2 long pieces of tape down the length of the spring leaving a 1/2 gap between them, use white spray paint and spray between the tape strips and let dry. When adding tension/charging the spring (winding) the white paint strip will make coils around the spring making it easier to count the complete turns and keep track of the tension!

[@AnAZPatriot]

I use a grease marker.

[@frankvadnais3536]

Don’t most springs already have a paint stripe down the middle? I know mine do. That way you know how many turns you have in. It seems to me that every time I look at Spring’s I always see the paint stripe down the side of the coil.

[@tacoma50]

@@frankvadnais3536 Most do, but not all and if you're repairing an existing door that's been there for a while and using the same springs they are probably faded to the point of not being able to see them.

[@31fourever]

I’m now positive I can do garage door springs

[@newtoncastle9942]

Pro tip, spray paint a straight line on the spring after it is fully loaded at 7.5 windings, makes it a lot easier for next time it needs to be adjusted

[@ryfish5]

A lot of springs these days come with a line printed on them from the supplier. I used lumber chalk instead of paint because it's easier to have on hand.

[@lmdetect]

tapping that bar with the other bar to stretch out that spring did absolutely nothing. lol

[@keithweeks6896]

7 divided by 4 is 28 😂that’s hella good math

[@freqenc]

When the garage gets slow, WD40 on the coils helps until repairs arrive. Lasted 2 wks. Hurricane season, slow service. But it works. Protect those cars!

[@repairtactics]

Almost got that math. Damn I need to get in this profession, I'd run it by the end of tomorrow

[@EARDRUMASSASSIN]

I’ve had these lock up on me trying to open the garage door once. My brother and me pulled on the door so hard that the spring part exploded and sent pieces flying by our faces. Sounded like a car bomb going off. Thankfully neither of us were injured that day. That’s all that could think of seeing this guy crank that spring down.

[@nchurly]

The spring can explode into pieces? Probably it was hardened too much? I recently had to replace broken cable so had to unwind and rewind the springs. It was pretty hard physically especially last 5 turns. But i didn't realize it's also so dangerous.

[@EARDRUMASSASSIN]

@@nchurly yea our springs were 35 yrs old on 10x10 industrial solid wood doors. The doors probably weighed 900 lbs lol 😂 just changed em out to aluminum doors w all new track and springs.

[@PaulC001]

i fractured 3 fingers trying to do this. i should have know better as i was also working at a cargo body repair place for penske trucks.

[@aaronmcconnell7358]

I saw a dude launch one of those bars threw two floors .this was on a new construction and it was just the subfloor but still crazy

[@brandonwyatt3901]

DO NOT HIT IT !!! Installing a brand new one could kill you doing that but If you ever try messing with an old door this will most certainly kill you they will break and cut your head off. That Spring has enough force to slice through all the 2x 4s in that wall

[@danielfinney4295]

I knew a guy that got hit in the head with a winding bar, he was wearing a hard hat when he got hit, he has been on disability for ten years now, his mother takes care of him because he has the mental capacity of a toddler. And that was just a spring for a 8x7 door, the springs used in really big doors are five times bigger

[@chrisschlesinger4146]

I've been hitting garage door springs for 26 years never had a problem just got to respect them and know what you're doing

[@alfhwuqd]

I hit bars holding springs all the time. Never had an issue with it.

[@smorgasbord-riogrande1911]

Dangerous as fuk. FYI Don’t touch the Red painted bolts unless you know what you’re doing.

[@justinhayes8210]

Was here to correct the guy but I see these comments are already lit with enough correction 😂

[@kirnzy7836]

The Cone is a cast piece of metal, nothing should be hammered in or around it. A set screw if tightened to much can crack them.

[@kengravoisjr7728]

Common core mathematics is killing it👌🏻

[@refink33]

would've been helpful to see the before & after (bunched up) torsion springs

[@mikeoxmaul5062]

I did mine a while back. it was a little spooky, but saved me some cash

[@maxxmayfield2914]

as a doo guy.. would you tighten that spring up so much that door opens on its own if slide lock is unlached.. thats what the door guy did at my work.. unlock and it springs open..

[@jthirey9949]

Hated doing this with my uncles garage door when I put his new door up lol

[@restless6201]

Been there and done that. Took a risk hitting the bar like that

[@jacobhessler7611]

7/4 is 28 huh I guess you learn something new everyday

[@leekitchens4752]

i wouldnt suggest beating on the steel bar thats inside the aluminum cone but you do you homie

[@davidt5200]

Another trick you can do is at the start before you even start Gables on the drums but at rest. Take a can of spray paint or soapstone and draw straight line down their spring. Then you can easily count the rotations of that bar when you wind it. I usually do full rotations 7 or 8 depending on how heavy the door is or if it's a single spring or double spring

[@pingpong9656]

If that thing lets go - it will beat you like a drum.

[@ogrebirthh]

Damn your rods are long 😂 mine are probably 300mm

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

@@ogrebirthh why thank you lol i got those at amarr

[@garageDoorFUBARmanual]

Had to order them